pvp

[green wharf]

now you are fucked

warriors will suffer even more from this

[fierce elm]

All it does is remove the skill required to not put down a breakable CC while everyone is throwing random bullshit around

But yeah, I see it as an m+ change

since we dont know the damage threshold I cant comment on how good it is

[fickle forge]

Was it really though

Did anybody even bind trap or poly on their bars

[fierce elm]

I see it as that

But it all depends on the dungeons and their tuning

[fickle forge]

Blizz introduces all this AoE, and then tries to fix their own problem with this change

[fierce elm]

This season it was all used for pseudo interrupt

[green wharf]

now they will

[green wharf]

.

[fickle forge]

They'll break it anyway dude

[fierce elm]

And saved for emergency situations

[fickle forge]

PvE'ers cannot help themselves

They must parse or they feel useless

[fierce elm]

Why do lat pulldown machines have dumb increments

[sour crag]

Another day, another session of being stuck in the 1700 limbo 😄

Because DH and beast hunters exist.

[fierce elm]

BM is a fair complaint lmao

DH isnt

[sour crag]

Well I do try to nuke them, but they are persistent. Their stuns and airdashings are annoying.

Like skinrash

What do BM's even do? Besides tossing animals at me

[fierce elm]

Press one button

[sour crag]

So they're not really damage-heavy compared to others?

[green wharf]

but it will taker longer

they can pin one down while the burst is happening and pull the rest

before any damage would break, now give then a space of time

[fierce elm]

They do a ton of damage

like a fuckton of damage

[sour crag]

Okay so they're top priority to put down despite the kiting?

Last night I was told don't bother to chase them becauuse they'll outrun me anyway

[fierce elm]

Yes

Something can do a ton of damage thst you can do nothing about

while something can do a ton of damage you can do something about

you cant shut down BM damage

[sour crag]

So it's like choosing between acid or vinegar, got it.

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

Gotta roll rogue for that

As the name suggests

[green wharf]

its hard to do this cause, you need 10 kills in each base, in the same bg

i only get 20 and a few

[lavish quest]

Just git gud

[wheat jay]

Real

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

guys, after further exceptions, maybe the warrior set is actually based on slayer

same chest and leg piece, houlder are lke minus the spikes

it also less armored, showing more cloth beneath, giving more freedon to move

why im looking for this, the tism kicked in

[fallen estuary]

Kinda similar. Except the reused dk gloves from s3 df 😡

[sour crag]

So I just discovered

Power Metal is really good to listening while Fury

Just blasting while going blind bonkers

Unironically, specifically the Shootas, Blood 'N Teef OST

[green wharf]

for maximum effect, you need stuff like hammerfall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajNmmLbCvxo&ab_channel=HammerFall-Topic

shit is 🔥

need to try piece together his tranmog

Hector is the dude in the cover

[lavish quest]

Since fury is meta, if you want to hit 2400 you have to listen to anime music

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fan-detected-opinion-rejected-gif-25772991

[lavish quest]

😂

[lavish quest]

You break 1800 yet?

[green wharf]

yeah

shuffle and blittz

[lavish quest]

Sheet, we've got a big man now

[green wharf]

im getting 1800 across specs/character for the sets

hunter, warlock

try a dk a shaman later

[lavish quest]

I would if I could bring myself to wow

I have like 5 classes at 1800 tho

[exotic forge]

*phonk

[lavish quest]

I just know Karg makes fun of fury's being anime fans

[fierce elm]

he does

[exotic forge]

What's wrong with anime

[copper fox]

I need a diff class alt for s2

Thinking enhance or mm

Done with this 3 warrior nonsense

[exotic forge]

Enh sham

[lavish quest]

The lobbies tremble when I roll up with the bagpipe music

[wheat jay]

and then he plays hpala

cringegish

[copper fox]

Enhance sham was going to be but they ruined it by taking storm strike away from 2h

It’s sad

[lavish quest]

Man's a beta bottom now

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/aaronpaul-aaron-paul-cry-crying-gif-7621646

[wheat jay]

i know right

like, dude

this channel is degenerating

i play dh

kargish plays hpala

afro plays rogue

sheesh

no warriors left here no cap

also

WHY ARE THERE NO GOOD RED LEATHER MOGS!?

[lavish quest]

I play warrior

[wheat jay]

you dont play the game bruh

[lavish quest]

There's several

[green anchor]

I remember playing 2H Enh in Random BGs in TBC

[wheat jay]

red red

not orange

red

[green anchor]

the windfury procs were insane

[lavish quest]

Game just dead atm.
Besides... I try to queue 1 shuffle a week at least.
And I get in some M+ and/or mythic bosses weekly too

[green anchor]

guy with no resilience just evaporated

[lavish quest]

I'm 2280 something. 1 queue a week might just land me 2400 without much effort

[lavish quest]

Xavius shoulders or red balls

[lavish quest]

Also I'm considering being ret or WW next patch

[sharp meteor]

Cozy to queue with mmr buffer.

[lavish quest]

Yeah, although, not exactly my intention. Just want to play other games so can really only stand sitting one 1 hr queue a week

[copper fox]

@lavish quest wtf play the game

[lavish quest]

The queues are brutal

[copper fox]

If you’re 2280 then 2400 is like free rn

[sharp meteor]

fast forward two queue sessions and he's 2040

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1255592344359534654/1324101144070455360/image.png?ex=67861609&is=6784c489&hm=5f4afcd5ba41b5de89854018e4cc39d958d94f1aeb0c329eeb6c24146168efdf&

This was like 2 weeks ago

I'm at 170 rounds apparently

Neat

[wheat jay]

sheesh

i went to do some shuffles on dh

😄

and then

still got rating lol

[lavish quest]

Well no wonder, look at that lil baby raring
Cute

[wheat jay]

[sterile moth]

Do you guys ever feel like you get griefed in shuffle? I had an 0-6 last night in which I was the top damage by 40 million

[lavish quest]

I'm griefed every lobby

The trick is winning when griefed

[exotic forge]

Playing caster lobbies is griefing tbh

[green anchor]

had a salty healer who would refuse to heal many times...

[wheat jay]

rogue blinded me in opener 4 times

and when he was opening on healer it was like 1sec left on blind

bruh

that's 2k mmr btw XD

[lavish quest]

Bruh, I had a rogue at 2100 last second refresh stun Dr last 0.3s to get that phat half second cheap

When I was waiting for DR to drop to stormbolt

[sterile moth]

lol

[lavish quest]

X.X

[copper fox]

I don’t even press bolt when I have rogues on my team

They always fuck things up

[pastel swan]

I’ve been on mains around 2400 lately, and I tried to make an alt. And I’m very surprised at the dumbassery around duelist. People don’t know what they’re doing. They don’t hit the same target. They won’t push in whatsoever. They don’t follow up cc. It’s horrible

[fierce elm]

You shouldnt press bolt when you have rogues on your team lmao

let them set up

[copper fox]

Exactly

[sterile moth]

Love healers that troll you the second you aren’t in d-stance too

[lavish quest]

How is he fucking up the DR himself setting up?

Also, I used to try that

[fierce elm]

Because its hard to keep track sometimes : (

[lavish quest]

But my winrate flew up when I said fuck the rogues

[wheat jay]

2 days ago i died to triple dr cheapshot

[lavish quest]

I'm the chad

[wheat jay]

pre-blur

[lavish quest]

I stun

[wheat jay]

100-0

xD

[lavish quest]

I win

[fierce elm]

Source: Dumbass warr/ret player who wanted to learn Outlaw

and its hard

[wheat jay]

now you're a dubass warr/ret/outlaw player

[copper fox]

Under 2.4 people forget rogues can die

[fierce elm]

Its ROUGH

[lavish quest]

I don't trust rogues with stuns

They suck

[wheat jay]

rogues suck yes

[fierce elm]

I mean you get around to figure a player out

then the next 5 rounds you know how the player plays

[wheat jay]

problem with rogue is it has so many oh shit buttons

you can still win games even when youre bad

[lavish quest]

When you play OP class you don't have to be good

[fierce elm]

Yes, source: am a bad rogue and win games

[pastel swan]

Outlaw is a shit shuffle spec. Assa is the only rly good shuffle spec

Unless you’re cracked

[green anchor]

this

they become the target every round

[wheat jay]

real

just play dh and enjoy not playing hte game

get some netflix

chill

wait for all the cc to be on dr

[pastel swan]

I wa surprised to see DH has like the lowest first blood % in shuffle

[wheat jay]

play for 5 seconds

go again

[lavish quest]

Play war. And jerk it as you spin to win

[pastel swan]

Around 20 something percent I think

[wheat jay]

as in them dying first?

[pastel swan]

Yeah

[wheat jay]

makes sense

[copper fox]

Why does that surprise you

[fierce elm]

Because Assa is so much fucking easier lmao

[copper fox]

Makes a lot of sense lol

[wheat jay]

why would you kill dh and allow it do dmg

when you can root it permamently

and they have NOTHING to press

root, clone, fear etc

done

ignore dh existence

[copper fox]

Dh is so easy to shut down, trying to kill it first just ruins your round

[wheat jay]

and its 3v2 every time lol

[copper fox]

Yea

[sharp meteor]

dh is cool cos blur is bugged and still giving 80% dodge that's omnidirectional and outside of that they just glimpse burst/cc and run around

[wheat jay]

just stun him

and im fairly sure its not bugged anymore

[sharp meteor]

glimpsed my bolt cos he has the weakaura my b

[wheat jay]

since blur doesnt do SHIT

[sharp meteor]

lemme go see if blur still bugged

[wheat jay]

20% wall makes dh as tanky as base anything else

[pastel swan]

Bc not every class has a root

[copper fox]

lol

[wheat jay]

every single comp in the game has a way to shut dh down

dh dmg is also GIGA predictable

[copper fox]

You don’t need a root

[wheat jay]

oh he used eyebeam

[exotic forge]

Dhs are stupid and I say that as someone who played it religiously back in Legion

[wheat jay]

oh he used meta

done

[copper fox]

Dh might be one of the most predictable classes in this game

[wheat jay]

always sigil before meta too

so if you see sigil, you can wait a global to stun eye beam

and walk away

boom, dh does 0 dmg

xD

[lavish quest]

You spent legion pressing 2 buttons?

[wheat jay]

nah

i picked up dh in shadowlands i think

no

in DF

[lavish quest]

Meant to reply to victor

Fingers big I guess

[wheat jay]

oh

[sharp meteor]

ya blur still 80% sick

[lavish quest]

6'4 man struggles

[sharp meteor]

i like hunters and demon hunters cos neither of them know what their defensives do

[wheat jay]

doesnt rly change anything

xD

[wheat jay]

fuk u

i know mine O_O

[fierce elm]

he doesnt

[sharp meteor]

doood i died thru turtle mannnng

[wheat jay]

ye cuz sadly its not an immunity

like pala

or dh nether

its deflect...

[lavish quest]

Basically immunity

Just press it sooner

[sharp meteor]

hey guys turtlin at 13% here should be fine

wtffffff man i pressed turtle

[lavish quest]

Artji has it botted to go off at 3%

[exotic forge]

It's always a fun time seeing a hunter die thru turtle

[green wharf]

i use double stormbolt on thane and shockwave

to assert dominance

[copper fox]

Double bolt when rogues on my team to really let them know who’s in charge

[true tiger]

whats that addon name that shows icon of the CD the enemy is using?

like that guys icon is now burrow

[sharp meteor]

bigdebuffs surely

[true tiger]

thanku

[wheat jay]

Storm bolt > cheap shot

[dense herald]

listens to feminist podcasts

[lavish quest]

Huh?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-stutter-serious-gif-13651284

[lavish quest]

Yes

[chilly pivot]

any new changes this week?

[copper fox]

Yea plunderstorm

[fierce elm]

Massive changes

huge patch

[rancid granite]

thats tomorrow already?

[fierce elm]

Jan 21

[rancid granite]

but plunderstorm tomorrow

patch 21st

[fierce elm]

oh yeah

tomorrow

Time to play WoW baby

[green wharf]

patch only in february at best

[fierce elm]

We arent talking about the patch big man

Plunderstorm BABY

[rancid granite]

oh 11.1/undermined is same update as s2??

[lavish quest]

We goin back to plundering booty?

[fierce elm]

11.1 is s2 lmao

.1 patch is s2, .2 patch is s3

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dang-bigtj-dang-antwains-you-got-cheese-i-can-eat-cheese-boy-dang-gif-23364627

[lavish quest]

Given we supposed to be able to plunder with our characters. Would be cool if we could plunder while sitting shuffle queues

[rancid granite]

do we got a reward list for it

[copper fox]

The ole blizzard reskins

Classic

Needed a purple alligator badly

To go with the other alligators I don’t use

[sharp meteor]

set is sick idk what everybody bitchin about

and dang all the first plunderstorm rewards back in as well

all those casuals neglected their kids for nothin

[rancid granite]

nice ty :D

/run AccountStoreUtil.ToggleAccountStore()

can type this ingame to see the list too i guess

[chilly pivot]

bloodthirst must be better prio over raging blow in thane?

[urban skiff]

Fianlly gonna try out marvel rivals and it's taking aaaages to download

any tips for bringing speed back up to 1k?

[green wharf]

shuffle participation 2.4+

[urban skiff]

This is the real reason I have no queue and the warriors complain about long queue times

I made a good decision

Why not wrecking ball?

I mean venom*

[green wharf]

but arms is low though

thankfully everything look shit to me

so i will not bother farming anything

[urban skiff]

it's like double enh

[green wharf]

already have 400mount achiev

[green wharf]

they are pretty close

[urban skiff]

how can anyone hate this little rascal?

[true tiger]

its sick.but we had same set last time

[urban skiff]

it's actually 49 pixels vs 63 pixels = 28,5% more arms than enh

I don't really think he himself changed the meta much, but I think that him existing changed how people approached the game, because suddenly there was a specific and very annoying counter to people playing in an annoyingly safe way

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry6-gustavo-fringe-haha-i-was-acting-gif-26854004

[urban skiff]

but I can barely remember what happened back then

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff outlaw dream is dead

I aint playing enough to keep up with that spec

now we assa bros

[urban skiff]

What happened??

[fierce elm]

Im just not playing enough

its a hard as fuck spec and I dont have the time to invest it lmao

[urban skiff]

I bet people didn't expect this, but i was a junkrat main

[fierce elm]

and I feel bad holding 2 other people down because I dont wanna play WoW as much

which outlaw requires

[urban skiff]

Junkrat, genji, doomfist for dps.

Reinhart, big miss piggy, hamster for tanking

[wheat jay]

jesus christ

you cant be more offmeta

no way

its arms btw

[urban skiff]

oh yeah, always winston

monke mad

me and wife used to play symmetra + torbjorn or bastion

old bastion

really really really big dam bastion

[slow solstice]

[copper fox]

And a mercy right behind

[chilly pivot]

do u guys feel like thane is more dmg then slayer in pvp?

[slow solstice]

depends

[copper fox]

Thane requires a slightly higher IQ. It works well into melee cleaves and SP/melee

[true tiger]

slayer sometimes does so good finisher

it won many games for me

[chilly pivot]

hmm okey

[true tiger]

but thane is good in bgb btw

in aoe fights

but still bgb is not always abouit fights and its more objective

i would use thane in eots midfight

[lavish quest]

Which meme will win?
Spin to win or Clappin Cheeks

[true tiger]

demacia

https://tenor.com/view/league-o-yuumi-yummi-moments-league-of-legends-yummi-fishy-fisyy-catlyn-gif-22056432

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/HZLngA-m1_E

Play this on loop to instantly hit 2900 rating

if this don't increase your damage by 200% you aren't a warrior, you're just an outlaw rogue who got lost in the giftshop

[true tiger]

guys any idea how ot fix mmr

froim 2.5k mmr to 1.9k mmr

wins give -0 rating now

and lose takes 19

how cooked am i

[slow solstice]

win

🙂

[urban skiff]

I think you just have to lose a lot to lower your mmr from 2500 to 1900

[exotic forge]

I tried Thane in shuffle and while the aoe is nice, it feels like you lose a lot on dmg

[slow solstice]

almost like slayer is just better single target

[true tiger]

i was about to hit 2.4k rating

1 win away

and guess what

had 15 game losestreak XD

it was insane sesh

[exotic forge]

You wanna be slayer anyways because it overall has better stuff

[true tiger]

as my grandpa would say

be best at ur job

and not good in more than 1 job

so learn 1 spec and be best at it

[lavish quest]

What if I listen to like Forge by Peyton Parrish? Or Fenrir?

[slow solstice]

idk having effectively a 30-40s bs is broken

[true tiger]

i thought i was only one listening to this

to boost testosterone

[exotic forge]

Mastery vs versatility type shit

[true tiger]

hah

go haste

[exotic forge]

The meaning of the word, not the stat

We all know who's the winner here

[urban skiff]

man that fight, and vox machina "I need a hero" version where grog finds his strength

[lavish quest]

Make your life simple

[urban skiff]

peak testosterone

[lavish quest]

Just play slayer

[exotic forge]

Spin to win

Til u die

[slow solstice]

you make it seem like thane and slayer are worlds apart

bt just does more damage on thane

[lavish quest]

Slayer is moar spin

And don't have to press clap

[sterile moth]

Clap is so satisfying to press though with a lightning proc

[true tiger]

ye bro [playable

i keep lopsing

bcs of npcs man

anyway to lift curse?

[slow solstice]

solo carry?

[true tiger]

this is unreal

[slow solstice]

focus on what you can do

idk

[fierce elm]

stop being a losing baby

[true tiger]

losing sanity

sanity at 10%

[sterile moth]

It’s just like poker, you can’t tilt and have to keep playing. The margins are thin

[fierce elm]

keep queueing

gamblers quit right before they hit it big

[sterile moth]

Haha

[true tiger]

thing is

now im not tilting

used to it

[fierce elm]

Keep queueing nerd

[true tiger]

still trying my max

[rancid granite]

i KeEp LoSiNG beCaAuSe EvEryOne Is HoLdInG mE bAcK

[true tiger]

but keep losing

[fierce elm]

Do I take my shitty assa rogue into solo shuffle

not knowing how to deal damage lmao

[slow solstice]

yes

[rancid granite]

press garrote and rupture and shiv

done

[lavish quest]

The only way to win blitz is to not queue

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to spend 1800 conquest to craft two weapons

Gotta press the AoE bleed too : (

[rancid granite]

vanish and press garrote and ruptre and shiv again

[true tiger]

i mean u see i still do best in team so

[rancid granite]

AoE bleed only good vs 2-3

[true tiger]

if im being tilted or not

[rancid granite]

not single target

[true tiger]

doesnot matter

[fierce elm]

I mean what else would I spend combo points on

envenom I guess

[rancid granite]

i think youre supposed to but i never do

especially since darkest night proc big envenoms

cheapshot->ambush->garrote->rupture opener gg ez

[true tiger]

never played assa i jsut know they just bleed and run away and somehow i die to sudden demise

[rancid granite]

1 2 3 4

[true tiger]

with 1 mln dmg

[fierce elm]

kek

God this spec is stupid

Deathmark - Shiv - run away lmao

[wheat jay]

do you know how to on anything?

[fierce elm]

Excuse me the grown ups are talking

go queue solo shuffle you LONER

[wheat jay]

i saw you online for 2h or longer

[fierce elm]

I am out here branching specs

[wheat jay]

sitting in dornogal

[fierce elm]

yeah I crafted gear for Assa

and read guides

and hit target dummies

[wheat jay]

lmao noob

just q and blast

[fierce elm]

no

[wheat jay]

pussy

[true tiger]

will fresher spirit change my npc teammates?

[fierce elm]

that means having to sit solo shuffle queue

[rancid granite]

assa is easy as ret paladin

[wheat jay]

too hard for afro

he'll kidney treants

[rancid granite]

step 1: stop blaming teammates bro

[fierce elm]

Artji out here being dissed by everyone and lashing out rn

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

You should blame your teammates

[wheat jay]

i had a cool shuffle tho

[true tiger]

hard thing is i was 1 win away to hit elite.and now im at 2119.still doing best in team .idk how resting will chnage team

[wheat jay]

with cool warrior

[fierce elm]

They are the problem

never you

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1328414515137613885/image.png?ex=67869ded&is=67854c6d&hm=1b3a8ced913ecf914648d53208cc82f35e5720d8109190b4e37c2d4d1220d78f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=376&height=151

look at this chad

good player

fun shuffle

[true tiger]

i had dk going pve 606 ilvl gear

[rancid granite]

"id be a pro player right now if other people didnt hold me back"

[true tiger]

and hunter standing in eots flag thinking it works as normal bg to cap it

XD

[fierce elm]

sounds accurate for ish 2100

[true tiger]

was at 2.3k cr

2.6k mmr

btw

[rancid granite]

yeah stop paying so much attention to them

[fierce elm]

sounds accurate there too

[rancid granite]

how you gonna win if youre too busy qq'ing over these people you hyperfocus on

[sour crag]

Any estimates when Season 1 ends?

[true tiger]

and i had preist capping insta flag in eots.he had no enemy near it.then enemy capped both flags and we lost

[fierce elm]

Feb

earliest probs

[rancid granite]

plunderstorm ends Feb 18th, and Feb 11th would follow the 8 week timeline

[lavish quest]

When I hit 2400

[rancid granite]

so either or sounds right

[sharp meteor]

5-7 weeks

[sour crag]

Do seasons usually end a week or so into the next patch?

[fierce elm]

no

[sharp meteor]

likely 7 weeks

earliest 5

[fierce elm]

This season ends on patch day or a week before

[rancid granite]

this imo

[sharp meteor]

i try to recommend that people take the earliest possible date and try to be done by then

[sour crag]

Well I mean, the PTR is already out. I assume things will roll in quicker by that?

[fierce elm]

dont know if they changed season start timing for s2

There is a lot to check and do still

so no, feb is about what you can expect

Especially with Plunderstorm being released tomorrow

[sour crag]

mid or late feb?

[fierce elm]

Plunderstorm is a way to bridge the gap between anniversary and patch

who knows man

Someone call their man at blizzard and demand a patch date rn

[rancid granite]

feb 11th would be the 8 week cycle, plunderstorm ends feb 18th

safe bet

[fierce elm]

makes sense

[rancid granite]

season ends 11th or 18th

or w/e

[fierce elm]

They dont wanna slap Season start on top of Plunderstorm

and they want Plunderstorm to sort of slow down in player count

then release patch

[rancid granite]

the term is tilt lol

[fierce elm]

Queue again

[rancid granite]

very tilted

idk how people can focus so hard and micro manage their teammates moves man

the match ends and they run a play by play of their entire team

like how the hell do you play or focus on yourself or the enemy if you're micro managing your own team

[fierce elm]

Well, Sunk Cost Fallacy is a thing

Gamblers Fallacy too

You spend x amount of time doing nothing that never gets better but cant stop due to thinking eventually it gets better

[rancid granite]

sunk-cost fallacy
noun
noun: sunk-cost fallacy

the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.

but so many people's 'strategy' is simply hoping their team carries

so then it really does become a coinflip lol

tying win condition and fun to random people is just a recipe for disaster

[fierce elm]

Its time

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-for-the-blood-god-skin-tone-chicken-bone-gif-13349014101215099595

https://tenor.com/view/chibi-blood-for-the-god-gif-11938035185254420975

[fierce elm]

This spec is so stupid lmao

[rancid granite]

it's fun and tactical even though it's 'simple'

use vanish offensively for garrote buff / silence too

[fierce elm]

lmao yeah

feels weird to not have constant vanishes though

but the damage is wild

Like what are they gonna do about it

[rancid granite]

i think you use ambush to start the deathstalkers mark so you can get big envenoms in but i got 2100 easy at least while paying no mind to it

[fierce elm]

You shoul dget one ambush

due to wanting 7 point Rupture

God this sub rogue did not enjoy the game

going 0-6

He did 11 million damage last round while everyone else did 50-0

[true tiger]

sub has to be most boring spec

[sour crag]

I wonder if I can finish Zekvir ??? in full pvp gear..

My current pve gear is subobtimal for fury build, I think

[fierce elm]

probably

[sharp meteor]

its doable at like 600 ilev ya

just have a bladestorm or avatar to break the dot if brann cant get it

[sour crag]

the poison thing?

I usually try using Spell Reflect, seems to work

So like... is 5 weeks still enough to complete everything before season ends? Including Curves. I've not even touched M+ yet but I kinda like that golem mount..

[fierce elm]

yes

but like what are oyu asking

how many hours are you playing

do you have gear

do you not have gear

do you have groups

do you not have groups

you keep giving us questions that have 500000 million variances

[boreal veldt]

do you wear wigs

[sour crag]

Uuuuh

I'll go with yes.

[torn sigil]

Bald ahh boy

[sour crag]

Serious answer, I play probably 8 hours at least per day, unless the gym gets between. Also not bald, but I am buzzcut.

Like, I doubt I'll be able to reach 2100, but 1950 is still my main goal. Anything after that depends how much time I have left.

[fierce elm]

If you play at least 8 hours per day, then yes

you can hit all those goals within 5 weeks

without much issue

The longest time investment is gonna be m+ if you have absolutely no gear

There are beginner friendly discords and such out there

If EU look at No Pressure

they also do raid runs

[boreal veldt]

m+ will be easiest with groups, even if you have gear M+ lfg are even worse about rating than pvp

[torn sigil]

You can hit 21 in blitz in one week

[sour crag]

Well I am guessing getting the gear is the most time-consuming part, yes? I have 610+ regardless of combo atm

[fierce elm]

Gearing and groups

Look into discords that create groups

Those are usually friendly and dont have high requirements

If you would pug at 610 you are not getting invited if DPS

[sour crag]

Honestly I've invested most of my PvE on solo delves, lvl 10 at most.

I haven't touched m+ since legion

Also why are the solo queues taking longer than usual today? It's past dinnertime, wouldn't more people be queuing by now?

[fierce elm]

about 5000 variances there too

it just do be like that sometimes

[boreal veldt]

wonder if i can slam 1800 with holy priest while everyone is on plunder next week

[sour crag]

Silly question

is Fury applicable to M+? Or do people prefer Arms?

[fierce elm]

Fury Thane was better last time I checked

[sour crag]

Oh, no Slayer?

Thought Thane was more of a tank thing

[fierce elm]

You want massive AoE

Slayer doesnt give massive AoE

[sour crag]

Aah I see

[civic scarab]

Thane is best but I have more fun playing slayer

Fury is better then arms in M+

Arms took a huge hit this season unfortunately

[lavish quest]

You can hit 2100 in a way if you winnin

[civic scarab]

I was able to hit 1700 in a day after starting pvp 3 days before trying to get gear

[sour crag]

I'm suspect you have far more prior pvp experience than I do, though. All muscle memory

[civic scarab]

I haven’t touched pvp since BFA

lol but all of the strategies from back then still apply today

I think

[rancid granite]

if you can do your pve rotation well you can get 2100 np

[fierce elm]

A druid just called me a rat for being 300 rating

when I was 3-0

people at 2k are weird

[wheat jay]

what do you play?

[fierce elm]

assa lmao

[wheat jay]

what does that make you?

https://tenor.com/view/rat-moment-rat-gif-22816005

[fierce elm]

But

he coulda gotten 3 wins with me

[wheat jay]

what are you?

[fierce elm]

He won 1 with me then decided to AFK the rest

[wheat jay]

answer the question

if i was a healer i'd afk rogue games too

[fierce elm]

Tbf I would also tilt if I got full kidney/cheap or full blind into garrote silence

[wheat jay]

out of principle

[fierce elm]

Blind into garrote silence into Cheapshot is pretty funny lmao

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

Along with it being 4 melee lobby

[wheat jay]

you're a rat

[fierce elm]

kek

alright fair

[wheat jay]

like

Its not me making the rules man

really

its not me

rules are rules

[fierce elm]

: (

[wheat jay]

dont blame the healer blame the rogue

you're the only person i know that swapped from warrior to rogue

legit

[fierce elm]

naa naa the swap didnt go that way

[wheat jay]

you were a warrior

you ended ona rogue

[fierce elm]

The swap went Warrior into WW, then went back to Warrior, then went to Ret after DF s3

then wanted an alt

[wheat jay]

and now you are a rat

rogue*

same shit

[rancid granite]

artji never played rogue it shows

[fierce elm]

Assa is a rat spec

[rancid granite]

it's addicting and empowering

[lavish quest]

Homie couldn't resist eternal meta

[fierce elm]

Pretty wild to just have a random ass silence

while being absolutely ass-blasting to everyone

its like playing melee affli lmao

[rancid granite]

the smoke bomb kill plays are ultimate rat but it feels so good

[wheat jay]

meanwhile im in d tier every tier 😦

every season

[fierce elm]

DH btw

Survival 2s btw

[wheat jay]

ye

go suck a dick afro

shoo

dirty rogue abuser

[lavish quest]

I live in F tier for life

[boreal veldt]

i just witnessed a fully crit geared slayer arms in random bgs

he got no kills

[fierce elm]

chad

[boreal veldt]

i tried to heal him i really did

[wheat jay]

should have tried harder man smh

[boreal veldt]

[wheat jay]

dude

pala insta bubbles

what does survi do

swap to arms O_O

[lavish quest]

Surely crit is meta

Surely

[rancid granite]

poor guy prolly just thought he was still col spec

[boreal veldt]

i do really well as crit/mast arms but not as slayer lmao

[urban skiff]

Or in the middle of swapping

[rancid granite]

happened to me before lol

[urban skiff]

isn't that like 90% of the advice given in here? Stats don't matter just queue up and swap pieces as you go

[pastel swan]

Is thane any good in shuffle vs any comps? Like is it just more pad damage vs pet classes

[sterile moth]

I like the durability of thane a little better. Doesn’t really on landing a blade storm since Bt and rampage pump hard in addition to lightning strikes

But there is a reason almost every top player plays slayer

[rancid granite]

solo shuffle

3's

[spice hornet]

What a chad

[north thicket]

Same here, I like thane being slightly more durable and more aoe capable

Slayer's death drive looks like a joke to me, especially for arms. Wish this talent gets looked at and slightly buffed or whatever.
Vicious agility is nice tho

[pastel swan]

It favors slayers slightly but thane still a good pick it seems for some reason. I haven’t tried it

[north thicket]

It's shame Colossus ain't functioning well, undertuned even if you land demo

[rancid granite]

thane for cleave slayer for single target / mobility

EZ

[north thicket]

How many buffs did Col got this season and it's still a shit... I can only imagine how poor it was at the start

Might give it a final try to see if Col bleed build with haste(?) and a bit crit/mastery would be good

[rancid granite]

get a good chunk of haste like youre playing slayer

mix in some crit/mast

or just go full crit/mast like bless and fish for big chunks

[north thicket]

yeah

[sterile moth]

Colossus is fine, super tanky…just not sexy

[rancid granite]

i think the opposite

[wheat jay]

Colossus is mad sexy

[rancid granite]

by far the sexiest spec

^

[wheat jay]

Like, what other spec is colossal in size, gets 5% size increase buff

And can demolish, literally and figuratively

[rancid granite]

big bonk = big pp

[wheat jay]

Real

And I'm forced to play it in raid again next seaaon

Cuz noone else wants to play warr xD

[rancid granite]

colossus meta in pve??

[slow solstice]

in m+ sure

in raid

[rancid granite]

ic ic

[slow solstice]

there is only 1 fight where colo is good

but like its more-so just "playable"

[pastel swan]

ive seen some arms warrs destroy everyone on dps

so it cant be horrible

[slow solstice]

yes it is

i love ancedotes

[lavish quest]

Reject meta slaving

Embrace subpar DPS

[pastel swan]

thane seems like itd be really good into a melee cleave or caster/melee cleave lobby

[wheat jay]

Thats where the fun is

The moment I learnt to play colo in m+ well I was around 2mil every dungeon

[north thicket]

yeah but ain't that the opposite of what it should be?

[slow solstice]

wdym

[north thicket]

like colo design concept is a pvp juggernaut

the mountain from game of thrones or whatever

[slow solstice]

i mean sad to say it

but game isnt centered around pvp

[north thicket]

3 game pillars - raids, m+ and pvp

if you forego one of these, like pvp nowadays, the game is going to suffer in long term

class and spec fantasies must be respected for the sake of balance

you can't have the mighty colossus being a bottom-ish pvp spec out of 39(?) with lesser durability than cloth/leather

[lavish quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[wheat jay]

Bruh

At this point pvp is barely a stick someone left at the construction site

[slow solstice]

^

[north thicket]

It is, you are right

[copper fox]

Bruh

[north thicket]

But it shouldn't be

[copper fox]

The main pillar that holds wow up is cosmetics lol

[fierce elm]

Transmog is the end game

[copper fox]

And collectors

Exactly

That shits way more popular than any of the mini games you mentioned

[wheat jay]

Keep in mind most players dont even do raids and m+

They just chill

[copper fox]

^

[wheat jay]

And do their mogs

Old raids

Collections

[fierce elm]

Gotta say, Assa rogue is pretty fun to play

[wheat jay]

Some challenges

[fierce elm]

you just bleed everyone up

[chilly pivot]

do we use thunder blast over execute when we run thane in pvp?

[fierce elm]

and then do nothing

[wheat jay]

Ye I heard

At least one person in your group had fun

[fierce elm]

lmao

James had fun

he actually didnt tilt despite having an LFG healer

[fierce elm]

h e l l n o

[lavish quest]

I pvp, raid, and M+ just for the mogs

[fierce elm]

same

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

now you dont even have to raid

lmao

[lavish quest]

I wouldn't even pvp if it weren't fomo

[fierce elm]

dw tomorrow is Plunderstorm day

[dense herald]

is crafted weapon better or the thingies'

elemental focusing lens

[fierce elm]

I like lens

[green wharf]

raids, M+, battle pets

get things straight

[north thicket]

haha yeah sry, I've never thought pet battles are a thing

[fierce elm]

I am being GLAZED out here

[green wharf]

lowkey more balanced than pvp

[rancid granite]

i aint ever get glazed? whatever that word means on any class but rogue

rogues just flashy

[exotic forge]

Zoomer word for "admiration"

Or something like that

[rancid granite]

i hate it

[exotic forge]

We all do, buddy

[fierce elm]

GLAZING

[copper fox]

Dude I think s2 is when I pick up a healer alt and save wow pvp

[lavish quest]

This was your 1400 lobby wasn't it?

[rancid granite]

i un-deleted my paladin for this too

can't complain about Q times if ya don't do your time as a healer

[frank knoll]

Why do melee players move their characters around in circles when they’re fighting you

This ret was doing it to me on my lock
Still killed him as soon as bubble was down
He was too busty trying to look cool I guess

[frank knoll]

Yeah thinking of hopping on the Rdruid
Rework looks cool

[rancid granite]

its a rule and increases dps

[green wharf]

going behind you can stop casting

cant dodge/parry from behind

[exotic forge]

^^

[green wharf]

unranked btw

[violet fossil]

Im gonna glaze you

https://tenor.com/view/donut-hazeldid-gif-21478980

[green wharf]

[amber heron]

is the ring worth for arms

[green wharf]

no

[dense herald]

paid actor

[green wharf]

I was the only horde on an alliance team, an this dude told me this

i was the person with more damage and more flags assaulted

[elfin surge]

BRO

theres no way 2 set is good on fury

im 0 set gaming now

fuck that

@fickle forge thoughts?

[fickle forge]

It probably doesn't matter either way

Tier set is minimal

[elfin surge]

its like 4% in pvp right

[fickle forge]

Ye, it's a whatever angle

Play it or not, you ain't winning off of it

[elfin surge]

Just finished gearing my third warrior like this https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/icecrown/buggin

i like it more tbh

gunna change my other warriors

[green wharf]

yeap, i know i will lose another game

[lavish quest]

Aren't the stats on helm and legs not horrible anyways?
Not on as much, so can't remember what stats they had, but thought they were okay

[green wharf]

does the equipament chest can drop weapons as well?

[fierce elm]

yes

[green wharf]

or just armor pieces

got it

[hot solstice]

So sad Crusader got banned. Guess they just wanna make pvp so tilting we will quit wow by gettinn banned. Such a mastermind plan.

[fierce elm]

You mean the dude who has mental issues

lmao

[green wharf]

who

[hot solstice]

Cant blame him

[fierce elm]

Crusader

[urban skiff]

Christ that guy suuuuuuuuuuucks

[green wharf]

still, who

[hot solstice]

do u even pvp?

[green wharf]

Richard I, the Lionheart was a crusader as well

[urban skiff]

Idk, someone linked the video in r/worldofpvp and he's like Batmans little brother who got hooked on 4chan

[hot solstice]

https://x.com/1aeNotes/status/1876088473511493636

andrew ! (@1aeNotes) on X

@ElliottVenczel crusader going crazy abt you

Twitter · Jan 6, 2025, 2:08 AM

[urban skiff]

Curling baby weights and yelling at his mom that he got banned for no reason.

[hot solstice]

new appartments though

same spittinn basket though

[fierce elm]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-crusader3455-wow-spazz-out-beast-mode-gif-25970151

He does have some issues irl that isnt his fault so yeah

[green wharf]

do i need to know him for permission or smth

[fierce elm]

cant really make fun of the guy

[urban skiff]

Is he handicapped or something?

[fierce elm]

He was abused iirc

[hot solstice]

seems like some ban wave goinn on

those ppl are delusional about saving their game

[fierce elm]

So the guy was a product of his environment

But yeah

he absolutely deserves a ban

Its just a sad situation overall, dont look into it

[green wharf]

but he got banned from what, the game or twitch

[fierce elm]

WoW

Used to be a decently big streamer

became more and more unhinged

[green wharf]

i doubt he would be banned from wow for racial slurs

[fierce elm]

Now perma'd

[green wharf]

was he cheating

[fierce elm]

Oh no its not just this one time lmao

Its been years of this

Like not even kidding, he has been so toxic for years

[urban skiff]

He said you can't be banned for what you say in battlenet chat, so it can't be abusive chat lol

[fierce elm]

He is also somewhat known to just AFK matches in SS

and just ruin the game for other people

[green wharf]

could be he aying shit to other people ingame

[fierce elm]

Saying shit to other people, on stream, on youtube videos

I respect their decision

[urban skiff]

I hope he spends his newfound extra time on healing himself instead of hurting others

[green wharf]

right, iw as saying i dont think blizz look at people youtube/stream and band then

[fierce elm]

oh no he is gonna sidestep the ban

[green wharf]

can always buy a new account

[fierce elm]

He is toxic in chat too big brother

[green wharf]

blizz do these banwaves and make some promo to get then back in

[fierce elm]

Blizzard has also revealed that Blizzard is going even further to combat toxic behavior by going to forums, youtube, twitch etc etc

At least for Overwatch

so I assume that goes towards WoW too

[urban skiff]

What's the deal with people talking about big dam judgment in relation to him?

[green wharf]

well, isnt working on the forums

thank god

[fierce elm]

Its his catch phrase lmao

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

He was a hpala main

Since like forever

[urban skiff]

Why he shouting some alpha dude's name as his catch phrase?

I don't scream "Henry Cavill Judgment!"

[fierce elm]

Who knowes

he has issues man

[green wharf]

maybe you should say henry cavil stormstrike

[urban skiff]

Big dam issues lol

[green wharf]

might boost your damage

[fierce elm]

I always say ”Kargish im creaming in my pants”

[urban skiff]

Cavill is my wife's crush. Mine is Alan Ritchson

[fierce elm]

John Haack, Jake gyllenhaal for me, GF is Harry Styles

[elfin surge]

crusader got perma banned for openly being racist

bro throws hard Rs around all day

[fierce elm]

Why isnt MUD banned yet

MUD called me a lowlife scumbag

[urban skiff]

Mud is so rude

[sand sundial]

Should've changed his name to Klansman

[elfin surge]

i dont need to say it bro everyone already knows

[urban skiff]

Klansbaby

[fierce elm]

I did call him a 500lbs 4’1 man but thats besides the point

[fierce elm]

Love ya boo

[sterile moth]

@elfin surge 4 piece tier on thane fury kinda pumps. Haven’t tried no set…honestly probably doesn’t matter that much

[lavish quest]

4 set def sucks

Gotta eat so much shit stat to get minor boof

[elfin surge]

Thane sucks

fake damage

[lavish quest]

War sucks

Fake class

[copper fox]

Trump will pardon crusader

[green wharf]

get the thane name

out of your mouth

https://tenor.com/view/president-name-out-your-fucking-mouth-keep-my-wifes-name-out-of-your-fucking-mouth-gif-9618493755317333253

4k

[elfin surge]

Thane is details pad

[rancid granite]

mud also said colossus was meta not long ago

now thane sucks

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-gif-3864577964652405716

[green wharf]

absolutely cooked

colossus si dead next patch

for prot and arms

[boreal veldt]

nah, col low key gonna 1 tap people

[fierce elm]

rip arms

now yall just legs

[boreal veldt]

well for at least a month we're pirates

[elfin surge]

PLUNDERSTORM HYPE

[boreal veldt]

PLUNDERSTORM HYPE

[green wharf]

name checks out

[lavish quest]

I'll settle for fixing the economy.

Social status of the US would be great too, but baby steps.

[boreal veldt]

[lavish quest]

Colossus is dead. It's all about plundering booty now

[slow solstice]

booty

hahaha

[wheat jay]

Real

Need that black transmog

[slow solstice]

why is the mmr inflation so high rn

[fickle forge]

What

For blitz?

[lavish quest]

Months have past since you last queued

[slow solstice]

ss

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1310959559904596079/1328753978967588954/image0.jpg?ex=6787da13&is=67868893&hm=8690ed7250b16206097fcf462c7b54b75a41813656375f910ffd90a1f89ecb02&

like wtf

[fickle forge]

It's not inflated really

You've just say afk for weeks and gotten the passive mmr injection

Nobody's 2.9k in shuffle yet

Dead bracket

[slow solstice]

ah

[wheat jay]

Technically you can get 1800 or sth

Right at the start of the season

Then play like 3 shuffles every 2-3 weeks

And you'll climb to 2100 even with negative winrate

[pastel swan]

Does anyone have dstance macrod with stuff like wall or anything

[slow solstice]

no?

[lavish quest]

As time goes on the game just gives you like +10 MMR each week (example number, I dunno the actual number or timeframe)

So if you afk on ladder, your mmr will slowly climb

[slow solstice]

i think if i play 4 games with same wr

i just get 2400

lollll

[lavish quest]

If the mmr keeps shooting up with your wins, yes

I'm 2283 CR and I'm just passively queuing since the queue times are brutal

So like one, maybe two a week

[slow solstice]

im about to pass you

[lavish quest]

Even if I 3-3 I go up like 20

[slow solstice]

yeah i got like 55 for 4-2

[lavish quest]

I have a job. And play other stuff

[slow solstice]

🙂

[lavish quest]

My first rivals comp sess of the season went kinda hard. I was MVPin every match

[slow solstice]

holy

[lavish quest]

It was starting in bronze.... but still

I am groot

[elfin surge]

yolo yuffle

[sour crag]

Jesus I forgot Balance Druids are NASTY...

[elfin surge]

boomy burst is crazy

[lavish quest]

I hear mud queues Yolo yuffle because he can ERP in Goldshire between games

[elfin surge]

im not even alliance

and im 0cr in shuff

L

[lavish quest]

Just means a long ass ERP session

[elfin surge]

I only go to goldshire to kill alliance as horde.

[sterile moth]

You linked a gnome warrior above

[green wharf]

6 hours maintenance

[elfin surge]

THE THIRD WAR

[urban skiff]

it's +16 i think

was 1900 last reset, it should be 1916 this and 1932 tomorrow

[sharp meteor]

No.

[sharp meteor]

Also no.

It's spread out over the course of the week not a lump sum on Tuesdays.

[urban skiff]

ok yeah ,that's true

[sharp meteor]

Which is why you go 3-3 and get 0 cr

[urban skiff]

looks like it's 1919 right now

[sharp meteor]

then later that day or next day go 3-3 for like 2 CR