pvp

[sharp meteor]

This is colossus.

First season is thane.

[dense herald]

ah

ok

[sharp meteor]

Third tier is slayer.

[dense herald]

its literally these 2 sets mixed together

[wheat jay]

What are you on about

This is the best set since legion

[dense herald]

looks like leveling gear smh

every tier set looks good except warrior

[wheat jay]

??????

Man's blind I swear

[frank knoll]

I wonder what this seasons hunter set theme was
Next season is obv dark ranger

[wheat jay]

Skinning

[sterile moth]

Am I the only one that thinks this set looks good

[rugged temple]

i like the red version

[green wharf]

every druid or rogue being night elf:

Yeah

[wheat jay]

It looks amazing

[green wharf]

set is pretty tight, i think everyone here liked

[rugged temple]

what version of the set is that?

[green wharf]

normal raid prob

[sterile moth]

Oh ok, the guy that posted above said “why is this set so bad?”

I felt bad, and old

[wheat jay]

ok you sent one good set

monk

rest is dogshit lmao

[green wharf]

The dk one is pretty ok though

[wheat jay]

Dk set has one good color, mythic

[sterile moth]

I like DK too. Rest are ok

[wheat jay]

Rest is mediocre

Monk is straight up dragon Ball set

Rogue is...

Evoker you wont even see the set cuz of evoker xd

Helmet is cool, shoulders are too fancy for the theme

Warrior on the other hand

Screams full metal warrior juggernaut

[north thicket]

I don't know much about hunters but am I wrong to think that MM has an absolutely disgusting burst and utility for a ranged class?

[wheat jay]

For blitz, maybe

For anything else, not really

Middle of the pack spec id say

[north thicket]

Yeah, my context was blitz

Seeing sometimes 2 hunters 2 mages in enemy team

Crazy

Makes me we wonder what is going to happen in the next seasons when ranged usually peak

Melees are \to be walking target dummies

[round karma]

Hi guys, I am getting ready for the PvP for first time. I am trying to write cancelaura bladestorm to all of my keybinds. However, for example,

/showtooltip Onslaught
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Onslaught

doesn't work correctly. I have to press the key once to cancelaura and press it again to cast Onslaught. Is this intended?

[rancid granite]

why would you want to use it in the firstplace

[round karma]

it's an example

it's the same with the charge

[rancid granite]

[round karma]

why are you fixated on the spell name lol, have you never wanted to cancel bladestorm and charge?

[rancid granite]

i used bajheera's yeah

[round karma]

okay, changing the spell name

#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Charge

doesn't work. I have to press it two times, first one only cancels the aura and second one actually charges.

[green wharf]

#showtooltip Bladestorm
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Bladestorm

this one works for me

so i dunno

[round karma]

I don't want to put cancelaura and cast on the same button

because sometimes you mash the key out of a stun for example

and you can click twice it cancels the spell

I want to cancel the bladestorm and charge

[scarlet sorrel]

Do you not mush charge button?

[rancid granite]

did you try putting cancel at the en

end

[round karma]

yes but pressing it twice has delay it has to be immediate

why are you bothered with this lol

im just trying to learn if that could work or not

this is the only main question

[round karma]

will try this

[scarlet sorrel]

I dont think there is a delay, at least not to me. But i dont think of a way to make it work post legion changes

[round karma]

believe it or not this is doing the same thing

[rancid granite]

whelp time to learn to mash your keys and get used to it

i've used bajheera's macros and i don't even remember it not being a single press tbh lol

[round karma]

are you ingame? do you have any chance to check those macros?

or is there a source where I can look up to bajheera's macros?

[exotic forge]

as SMF

[rancid granite]

just on his youtube and its literally same macro you have

[round karma]

hmm

thanks Aatos

[rancid granite]

etc

[exotic forge]

I don't suggest you to use at @ cursor Leap macro unless you like accidentally leaping into walls

[scarlet sorrel]

@ cursor works ok for spear. But even that is kind pf sadge cuz it goes on top of walls at times

If you run spear that is

[exotic forge]

It's useful for the 5 warriors using spear right now, that's true

[green wharf]

First blitz of the day lost 1500-1498 cause someone didn't got the ball beside him

i love wow

[green wharf]

never happened to me?

is that something that happens?

[exotic forge]

It can happen sometimes

more so if you're zoomed out to max, it can target things that are above and you can leap behind you by accident

[hasty pulsar]

LOL a ret pala just said this

XD

[green wharf]

[hasty pulsar]

dude bubbles bops lays

then lost to an arms warr

and said that

LOL

if you a ret and lose to a warr

thats wild

omg LOL he switched to an alt

you heard it here first folks arms warr is overpowered

[flint lodge]

Im a pve-head trying out pvp for the first time cause I want to farm Saddles, but I dont like being bad, what can I do to be like 1800rating skilled asap? like resources, guides(just watched the Pikaboo one he made earlier this season)

[hasty pulsar]

get in there and start doin BIG DAM

[green wharf]

doesnt that fail

cause there is a debuff on lay and bubble

[green wharf]

murlock io

copy the top chads

[flint lodge]

alr did

got Gladiusex, got Omnibar

[green wharf]

then you are set

hit the buttons harder for more damage

you can see some videos of wars

play a few random bgs to get the class feel

[flint lodge]

okiedokie

[scarlet sorrel]

If you dont line your healer and press yout buttons, that is all you need for 1800

[green wharf]

i dunno which is more suspicious

Q that instant pop out

or the ones that itt ake 40 minutes

[exotic forge]

I don't know man, I out damaged an arms warrior as smf the whole lobby

[round karma]

can you guys tell me an addon which tells me whenever I get CC'ed, CC spell and duration?

[green wharf]

build and stats plx

for ~~reasons

is that thane right

i imagine smf thane would work well, cause more attack speed means more lightining strikes procs

[exotic forge]

Slayer

I tried Thane, and it was... interesting

Not enough damage

[exotic forge]

20% haste, 30% mastery, versa and critdon't matter

[round karma]

gonna be my first pvp lol

[green wharf]

[round karma]

let's see how it goes

if it finds a match

[exotic forge]

I'll link my build later but tldr, odyns fury with avatar talent, running onslaught without the talent, and running anger management

[rancid granite]

check out skillcapped's addon :)

[round karma]

isn't it paid?

can someone also rate my build for single target XD

[rancid granite]

no, not paid

i think they have paid on their site for like.. other custom stuff.. or something?

but its legit

[round karma]

I just need an addon like losscontrol or something like that

basically an icon showing the CC i am affected and the duration

[frank knoll]

Idk arms actually seems like a decent 1v1 spec now a days

What’s the shaman set theme next season, I’m gonna take a guess and say farseer, totemic was season 1
Not enough lightning bolts to be stormbringer

[green wharf]

i dont have, i play on feeling

like my father, a jedi, before me

[green wharf]

i did boys

[green wharf]

seems like this one is far seer, and previouslly was totemic

[rancid granite]

go grab your mogs

[round karma]

i think im queue bugged right guys? right?

[slow solstice]

no

[green wharf]

got em, the epic set doesnt have a belt for some reason

[green wharf]

cancel and quee again

[round karma]

[slow solstice]

noob down

queue m+ instead

[green wharf]

the proper way to play wow

[round karma]

already did all +10's XD

[green wharf]

i didnt do a single Heroic DG this exp

let alone m+

[flint lodge]

nice :3

was way funner than I expected

might try getting 1950 for illu (?

[green wharf]

go for it

before the season end i will try later too

to get 2100 and the weapons

[flint lodge]

yup, I still need to get the vicious mount so ill see what I can get till then

[green wharf]

too bad im not enjoying shuffle-onlymeta-mode

i had a lot of fun doing x3 with some friends, but they stop playing after one day

[flint lodge]

yeah im not even gonna try to convince my friends to run 3v3

[chilly magnet]

gonna do some live pvp

[urban skiff]

How the heck can people tell the difference

[green wharf]

lore knowledge

im a certified wow nerd

[urban skiff]

ok so in simple terms?

[green wharf]

you can see what the set look like, and you see the icon in the hero spec, then you assume

they look alike, the horns, helmet, chest, pauldrols a bit different

can you see the resemblance @urban skiff

its not 1:1 for sure

[fierce elm]

neeeerd

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/luntry-gif-26563186

[urban skiff]

Maybe it's finally time i start tracking offensives and defensives of my enemies, maybe on nameplates

Is there a list somewhere I can borrow inspiration from or?

[urban skiff]

I can see it easily here

but I'm not seeing it for totemic or stormbringer

[green wharf]

its mostly conjecture on the icons

if you see, the totemic have these little balls around the totem

same balls on the set shoulders

[urban skiff]

you could technically remake that tbh

sec

[green wharf]

remake what

[urban skiff]

The totemic icon

wind shoulder and green shoulder and there's unfortunately no fire themed hat from the same set

would've been neat

[green wharf]

there is no fire balls in the icon

for some reason they didnt want to add that

S2 is prob far seer

cause the dude in the icon have a cowl

[urban skiff]

a shame the 2h dream is dead. This would have looked awesome

[urban skiff]

true, but there's one on the totem.

But they're also not the same colours as the icon so that's great

[urban skiff]

s2 is so confusing

They're pushing doom winds in the set

but they're reworking peewave and making surging totem even easier to use

[green wharf]

but not on the icon

[slow solstice]

why is 2h enh dead?

[green wharf]

change thing thing into a zandalar then it would be awesome

[urban skiff]

WHY IS MY DOWNLOAD SPEED SO SLOW

[urban skiff]

they did remove offhand requirement but they made it mainhand require a one-hand

[green wharf]

S2 is a big shitstorm, apparently is where blizz break classes, to fix in s3

[slow solstice]

zzz

[urban skiff]

I don't think they're fixing in s3, i think it's the .5 patch that's going to do shit

[green wharf]

MM is shaite, war got nerfs, even pve people are whinning now

and tht put a smile on my face

[urban skiff]

and I think it's ENH and DK turn to get the retri-rework-treatment

[green wharf]

colosus is dead, bleeds nerfed

[urban skiff]

not because I think enh deserves that treatment, I think we were in a really really good spot in s1

and losing ancestral guidance is going to hurt so much

[elfin surge]

🫡

[urban skiff]

If they wanted to simplify and consolidate keybinds they could have put the functionality into earth elemental and reduced the effectiveness

[slow solstice]

gz

[urban skiff]

carry me to 2100

I want to feel like a real man

[elfin surge]

[slow solstice]

just queue

🙂

[green wharf]

im done queeing for now, lost a flag g with two monks

cause they were letarded

[urban skiff]

i can't

i'm varying degrees of stupid

[green wharf]

gonna make a dnd character to play sunday

in dnd warriors are good

[urban skiff]

you mean barbarians

Fighter is really excellent too though

[urban skiff]

I want to make a swamp-witch style druid with lizardfolk race.

OR! simic hybrid beastbarian

[green wharf]

both are good, you can multiclass as well

[green wharf]

thats funny cause i will make a beast barbarian now

[urban skiff]

I'm from the old school, where multiclassing and feats are optional 😦

[green wharf]

i dont like multiclassing either, but feats are a must

otherwise is a bit lame

its like wow talents, you need that avatar

so close and yet, so distant

[urban skiff]

i never get these

I hit my goals early and never put in the games after

that's the worst part of having low ambitions

[green wharf]

i got 1800 in like a lot of specs, so i was able to get thrice

[urban skiff]

I'm obsessed with simic hybrid beastbarian after seeing a video on how to recreat the xenomorph from the aliens films

but for me simic is a template for "eldritch monster" type instead of a specific racial history that doesn't belong in forgotten realms

[green wharf]

they are kinda meh, mechanically, but cool idea

[urban skiff]

in video games, sure. But at a table there's only flavour and mostly no such thing as power

[green wharf]

before eye of the storm start:
_ "no one goes mid, lets go for their base and win"_ everyone agree
BG start:
everyone but two goes mid and still lost flag

i think wow need that verification to know if people are human, or some iq test to q

[green wharf]

there is always power

[urban skiff]

eeeeh

no

a good dm will make sure everyone is having a good time

or at least give them the chance to have a good time

[green wharf]

sure, and sometimes, a good time is awesome combos and epic fights

makes DM match the energy

[urban skiff]

true

but style is the most important part

And barbarian relies more on creative use of the battlefield than classes with more specific abilities

Is why the barbarian bomb is so popular (leap off the cliff and just rage slam into a target below)

Or tipping over pillars, etc

stuff that could hurt the barbarian, but ultimately would hurt the target more

[green wharf]

thats what feats are for

there is some neat ones

gonna make a nasty goblin

[sour crag]

yay progress

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/rGpsSCd.png

💪

lol

[green wharf]

[green anchor]

gz man

[frank knoll]

That’s what I was trying to say lol

[sour crag]

Now watch me backflip back to 1500 within an hour 😄

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah brother

[idle falcon]

erm

explain

how did i melee for 34.7 million dmg crit

and how did i hit "time"

for that amount

[fierce elm]

You hit time

[idle falcon]

how though

[fierce elm]

Looks like a simple Details bug

it can be a bit wonky sometimes

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/qT8QzHqgQVw

Is pvp toxic though?

[idle falcon]

it is

i had a warlock call me a slur because i focused him all the rounds in solo shuffle

O_O

[urban skiff]

is it toxic to keep stunning a sub rogue's targets on DR in the first two shuffle rounds when you're together with him so he absolutely loses his shit and targets you no matter how bad that decision is for the next 4 rounds?

asking for a friend

[sharp meteor]

was skillcapped ever not useless slop

[green wharf]

a monk did that to me once as well

[green wharf]

that hunter name too though

[green wharf]

i wish i could have send him this

[slow solstice]

[urban skiff]

Their guides on ui setups aren't bad at all. Overall their guides are excellent starting points.

Just like adults who hate Teen Titans Go, you just have to accept you aren't the target demographic.

[green anchor]

as fuck

and it's not just pvp

[lavish quest]

Your goats toxic

[fallen estuary]

Damn right i am

[north thicket]

M+ even worse, no sense of teamplay 99% of the time

Infested with ret hunter boomkin mage rerollers

2min into the dungeon and someone starts complaining why tank isn't pulling around his cds

10min into the dungeon the dpsers start using kicks, on some boring encounter

2/10 ret palas make a good impression for knowing that bof/loh aren't meant to be used on themselves exclusively

Hunters of course thinking of themselves as the 200 IQ players because AI pets doing everything for them and they have time to write in chat mid-fight

The average mage is basically a bloodlust bot, more often than not last on dps slightly above tank, the healer has to spam heal the mage more than tank

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1hyvbk9/2025_short_guide_important_pvp_concepts_to_get/

Another good post on worldofpvp, rare as it is

and skillcapped putting out two decent videos in two days

neat

[sand sundial]

shoutouts to skillcapped like them or not they're good for the community

[north thicket]

Does the Enduring Bloodstone reduce dmg also when affected by roots slows (in addition to stun and fear?)

Zercher, you are full on information 😄 How much do you know about the Enduring^

[sharp meteor]

It shouldn't and it doesn't even work on half the important stuns.

[torn sigil]

thats why ive run the snare one since day 1

[urban skiff]

Make sure to swing by and let him know. That sub is unfortunately plagued with unhappy people more than anything. 🙂

[north thicket]

found this Nov thread https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/enduring-bloodstone-bugged-for-majority-of-cc-especially-all-feralshunterswarriors-stuns/2014272/73 unsure if someone has double-checked recently?
roots are considered crowd control - it should work if wording is correct

[urban skiff]

what the fuck

Is this tag

Can only be used during nighttime, requires a wand?

[north thicket]

in-game

wtf

wowhead - loss of control, in-game - crowd control

[torn sigil]

technically same thing

[north thicket]

roots are CC but not loss of control?

[torn sigil]

blizz say loss of control when referring to unable to cast or move

stun silence fear etc

[urban skiff]

loss of control is when your keybinds don't work, movement impairing effects are roots slows etc

[torn sigil]

im aware

[urban skiff]

Yeah, it was just a generic message but in relation to what you said

[torn sigil]

but its all crowd control

[urban skiff]

I don't think crowd control is a word used ingame or by blizzard

[north thicket]

eh see the screenshot above

[torn sigil]

its a general gaming term tbh

[north thicket]

it says crowd control

[urban skiff]

i'm 99% sure there's something wrong with the wowhead version of enduring bloodstone

[north thicket]

yeah, beyond the nighttime aura :)))

fk this is stupid

precognition proccing from whatnot

but enduring doesn't even work

[torn sigil]

yea ive had determined from day 1 anyway

https://www.wowhead.com/item=213749/determined-bloodstone

snared in blizz language is slowed not rooted

but tthey have used slow and snare to mean the same thing throughout the history of wow

does the siren ring work for arms in pvp? i havent been paying attention to that

[fierce elm]

nerfed finally

do not equip it

[urban skiff]

ignore it, it's been killed

if you equip it you're just playing without a ring now

[torn sigil]

figured it was a meme

[urban skiff]

It wasn't a meme, then it became a meme when they fixed up the ring's pvp scaling

Anyone know if nvidia filters have been fixed yet or if they're still eating 10% fps without running any filters?

[torn sigil]

like shadowplay?

[urban skiff]

Nah, like sharpening or hdr toning ands tuff

there was a bug where just having the filter options enabled would eat up 10% of your frame rate despite the option not actually doing anything for you.

They put out an update for the nvidia app that made it default turn off game filters. Haven't kept up if anything changed after that patch

[green anchor]

Why tf is windwalker getting another leap next patch

oh nvm it's a replacer lol missed that bit

[sour crag]

Lost 56 ratings right after breaching 1800 because I faced both beast hunter, balance druid and ARCANE MAGE of all things.

How am I suppose to counter any of those?

I becae a frikking statue with all the CC spam on me and 3 blinks

[urban skiff]

you're not supposed to counter them. You're supposed to enable your partner to score a kill while they put effort into dealing with you

[sour crag]

Please elaborate?

[slow solstice]

press cc

and be annoying so that your other dos

can just nuke them into oblivion

press defensives

cc them

idk

[sour crag]

Can't chase the mage because they keep blinking away and wasting my charge/bounce. Can't chase the hunter because of the constant slowdown spam. Balance keeps chasing me with their laserbeams and cyclone for the lols.

[slow solstice]

are you pressing your slows?

also

you have 2 charges(removes 1 root) 1 leap rally to remove root pvp trinket healer dispell

idk

[sour crag]

Leap can remove CC?

[slow solstice]

no hut you leap while slowed to get ontop and hit them

and apply your slow

idk im prob the wrong person to explain this

[sour crag]

you do say "idk" alot... 😄

[slow solstice]

yeah because i do not know about pvp like i do pve

i just ran in and killed my opponents before they did me

[wheat jay]

run in

do damage

???

profit

[slow solstice]

yeah

thats how i climbed

hi artji

:3

[wheat jay]

yo

what's up

[slow solstice]

i want to push as aug

bc tanking no fun

[wheat jay]

sheesh

[slow solstice]

and then i get people who need to be studied as my tanks

[wheat jay]

i started playing single player games

[slow solstice]

holy

did you give up on ce

[wheat jay]

guild stopped after killing princess

[slow solstice]

😦

[wheat jay]

ngl this tier is kinda ass on mythic

like, difficulty spike is unreal

amount of bad rng is just stupid too

[slow solstice]

i pugged brood one week

that shit was so sketch

but so fun

[wheat jay]

dmg spikes from bosses are unreal

overall, not fun xD

[slow solstice]

legit go where marker

[wheat jay]

so i played atlas fallen

[slow solstice]

adapt on fly

[wheat jay]

mid as fuck 😦

[slow solstice]

you should try persona 5

[wheat jay]

rn im trying not to off myself

[slow solstice]

XD

[wheat jay]

in wow i gave up on survi

so im left with dh in pvp

should I?

44GB

WTF

smh

[slow solstice]

XD

have you played sts

or darkest dungeon

[sour crag]

I wanna die.

When should I stop?

Like

I don't know

[slow solstice]

queue again

?

i went 0-6 in 2100

who cares

go again

[sour crag]

but my mmr

I am gonna lose again and the climb will be even more grindy

even if I win I get maybe 10+?

[slow solstice]

maybe if you are hoing 4-2

just win more

[sour crag]

It is not that simple and you know it.

[torn sigil]

it really is

[sour crag]

I don't do enough damage. Idon't know how I lost it

I think I'm not there mentally

I can top 800k on the dummy, but it keeps being at 400k at most in arena

Also I had spellreflected a Thunderlord's Crackling Citrine???

Do people REALLY use the ring for pvp, like for real?

[stone garnet]

Yeah, it's nerfed now but some people still use it.

[sour crag]

Like, nerfed enough it's not worth to wear it over conquest ring?

[stone garnet]

Yeah, it's not worth losing the vers or secondary Stat now.

[stone garnet]

Also, I get that top about the same on dummy. Maybe closer to 850kish, but in arena I'm hitting 600kish. That said, it's more about making the damage impactful. On a positive win shuffle it's still rare that I'm top dmg.

[sour crag]

Somebody here said I should try to top 1 mill on the dummy so

shrug

I'm a blind student following orders.

[stone garnet]

I mean, if everything lines up I can hit 1mil on the single target pvp dummy. But rarely do those things line up in a shuffle.

[exotic forge]

A bit rare for an arms warrior to be top damage in shuffle, this is not even slander

[digital hazel]

are the new rings any good in pvp?

[urban skiff]

you can get as much from a win as you can lose from a loss

[urban skiff]

no, ignore

[sour crag]

I'm confused, aren't losses usually worth -2x of win ratings?

[urban skiff]

no

you'd need a winrate of 66% to break even

[sour crag]

Okay, but say if I lost 3 matches in a row

Would that mean my next win would be worth much less?

I'm confused how it's balanced

[urban skiff]

The thing about loss is that if you lose 10%, you need 11% from your new starting point to go back to where you was

[sour crag]

Can you give me an example?

[urban skiff]

if you start at 100

and lose 10%

you're at 90

to go from 90 to 100, you need 11.1111% increase

this is what makes gambling insidious

[sour crag]

So is this a fixed percentage?

I thought the whole MMR thing is what makes things much more complicated

[urban skiff]

No, this is hjust how math works

[sour crag]

Well guess what I wasn't good at at school 😄

[faint girder]

#showtooltip Blessing of Protection
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][] Blessing of Protection

I would like to be able to just mouse over my party members bars and click - I thought this was correct, but it aint working ..
Anyone know whats wrong?

[rancid granite]

whats the extra [] for

/cast [@Mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene

same thing

[faint girder]

Gonna try with that instead, thx

[green wharf]

my brain cant compute intervene as a button in the same macro as charge

[rancid granite]

it took me a bit to remember i even have intervene lol

[exotic forge]

@green wharf since you were asking yesterday

[green wharf]

odyn fury? bold choice

but i guess it line nice with roar

45 both right

[exotic forge]

mostly to benefit from Dancing Blades than lining it up with Roar

since you get a ton of auto attack damage

[green wharf]

but damn who would have though SMF would still work

[exotic forge]

I've been saying this forever lol

[green wharf]

would not be better to swapp the hp talent for wild strikes?

cuz more haste+more auto attack

[exotic forge]

I sometimes pick it if I wanna full send it and not care much about stam

but I take stam to counter the stat loss from not having 2 handers

Next season you'll be able to pick both though

[green wharf]

you will lose the second bennefit

that i dont remember

and they fucked over avatar casting odyn fury

and odyn fury casting avatar

[exotic forge]

Oh yeah, SMF will be weaker because of that

[pastel swan]

They’re removing berserker’s torment? @green wharf

[exotic forge]

Titan's Torment*

[pastel swan]

Oh I don’t play that

[green wharf]

ye

[pastel swan]

Are they removing berserkers torment too? What are you replacing it with

[green wharf]

berserker iss the one that avatar cast recklessnes

titan torment avatar cast odyn fury

before arms had one that vatar cast bladestorm

but they removed cause M+ fuckers

[pastel swan]

Ok. Sorry for asking this again. But are they removing Berserker’s Tornent in 11.1?

I’m just unclear bc you keep mentioning other stuff

Which is my fault bc I had them confused to begin with

[exotic forge]

Titan's Torment is being changed so that instead of making Avatar cast Odyn's Fury and viceversa, it makes Recklessness lower Rampage's cost to 60 and Bloodthirst's cd by 1.5 sec

[green wharf]

berserker torment is the same and not removed

[pastel swan]

Ok I’m reading the notes right now thanks

[exotic forge]

I can get 900k consistent dps

but next season I'll adjust the build accordingly. Odyn's Fury will be dead for good, but Onslaught build with SMF is just the normal Fury build except with 1 handers

[pastel swan]

It sucks that they’re removing Barbarian that was pretty useful at times

[green wharf]

it was making things difficult for mages

so they had to remove

[pastel swan]

Yeah I could see that

Im a new warrior. Just picked it up. It’s not too hard coming from rogue

[sharp meteor]

Finally got elite.

[vivid flower]

big grats

anybody know if these bloodstones are gonna be obsolete next season or should i keep saving em

[sharp meteor]

I think that they're still used for sockets.

[pastel swan]

Awesome Grats!

[sharp meteor]

So if anything they might pop in price a bit as people try to full bis their honor gear.

[pastel swan]

We never hit slam right

Can I take off my bars lol

[slow solstice]

as what

[sharp meteor]

Uhhh, it's pressed a bit as arms/prot.

[slow solstice]

i mean

[pastel swan]

Fury

[slow solstice]

its your last resort

[sharp meteor]

It got enough pvp auras to be sometimes useful.

[slow solstice]

you should keep it

if somehow

you have 0 other things

[sharp meteor]

As fury pretty rarely. Never, maybe? Like, if literally nothing else is up

and you don't need to reapply hamstring

which is NICHE

99% of the time its bad to press

and having it bound for the 1% usually isnt worth

ya feels

[pastel swan]

Yeah I need that bind lmao

[slow solstice]

yeah but its 1 button

what do you need the bind for

[sharp meteor]

I mean having it bound is fine just don't

be pressing it

often

[pastel swan]

Where can I find the best rotation/prio for fury

[sharp meteor]

a long time ago frost shock was a 0.2% dps increase for enh if u used it right and like 5% dps loss if u pressed it at wrong time and everybody used it wrong to the point wher it's like yo take it off ur bars

[pastel swan]

I noticed some ppl hit for over a million rampages but mine are like 600k

[sharp meteor]

slaughtering strikes and/or thane

[pastel swan]

I’m slayer

Haven’t tried thane

[sharp meteor]

then it'd just be the former

there's also big enrage and/or just having more mastery

[pastel swan]

Is that frenzied and powerful enrage?

[sharp meteor]

haste+speed or dmg ya

[pastel swan]

Seems kinda split

Out of pvp I’m 7 crit 14 haste 29 mast 21 versa

[copper fox]

isthis your prot r1

[pastel swan]

They seem to do roughly the same DPS (when I tested using the same gear) but the powerful enrage felt much less spammy LOL

[sharp meteor]

Aye. 🦊 🛡️

[sharp meteor]

Ye, idk. Haste is probably better but I like the big meaty swings of powerful.

[pastel swan]

It’s less APM which is nice

[sharp meteor]

based boomer

[copper fox]

nice congrats

[pastel swan]

For sure

[sharp meteor]

gonna beat these high apm whippersnappers with my cane

[pastel swan]

Let me ask. Even with powerful, my biggest crit from rampage was 521k

On PvP dummy in Dorn single target

Shouldn’t it be higher

[sharp meteor]

imma be real i have no idea what dmg any of my abilities do

[pastel swan]

Am I not using raging blow enough maybe

Lmaooo

What’s ur prio

[sharp meteor]

i look at dmg overall i look at dmg relative to other abilities

and how they interat

[pastel swan]

Maybe I’m blood thirsting or executing when I should be raging blow

[sharp meteor]

i actually dont know slayer i just play thane cos it feels nice

but im hardstuckos 2200-2300 so probs gotta try slayer again soon

[slow solstice]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/fury-warrior-pvp-guide

[green wharf]

today im just doing brainless zug on random bgs

i lose but i got em kills

[pastel swan]

Does fury use enraged regen early like everyone else

[rancid granite]

as PROT?!

not updated yet but

thats huge lmao

grats

[sharp meteor]

Ye.

Can go a bit further the spec just feels sort of diceroll as to lobbies.

Double or triple caster is rough.

[rancid granite]

do you get flamed for going prot ever

i eye roll them silently

[sharp meteor]

Not as much as I'd thought.

Usually a dps dying without pressing a defensive in the first round takes whatever annoyance people have with me and immediately puts it on them for the rest of the lobby.

[rancid granite]

thats how it goes

[pastel swan]

Yeah fury feels kinda squishy maybe I need to go in and out of dstance more

21%. 16750 vers

No out of PvP. In PvP it’s 28%

So when you’re taking a ton of dam and ur healer gets ccd what do you do. As far as I know we get a 10% wall from being enraged, dstance, rallying cry, and enraged regen

And spell reflect

Maybe I’m not using impending victory well

I rarely press it lol

Just started warr today first timer

I guess also lining with heroic leap. Idk if that’s a bad move but seems good at times

Yeah for sure

Nice little wall on 24 sec cd

I am playing those!

As far as rotation, I prio rampage. Then onslaught then execute then raging blow then bloodthirst.

Saw they’re removing barbarian too I like that vs mage and devoker

Ele focusing lens is doing shit damage. Why does everyone play it lol

I’m about to recraft to ascedance

I dropped bloodcraze for raging blow. I’m on Murlok but haven’t looked at indivual builds. Just kinda saw what others are playing and riled with it

Oops I had accidentally dropped blood borne not bloodcraze smh

[green wharf]

frienzed is guci cause more movespeed

[pastel swan]

Damn is that a cheese build

Is that in PvP

What all can shattering throw work against besides bubble and ice block

[green wharf]

this is before or after the pvp modifiers

[pastel swan]

I didn’t see bitter immunity until now lmaooo

Is mountain thane basically just the aoe build if you’re facing like a DK demo or bm?

[slow solstice]

into melee

not ranged

[worldly grail]

is fury or arms better for bgs?

[urban skiff]

mage losing ring of fire or ring of frost so I think it's not too bad a trade

[pastel swan]

can feel helpless vs mages

if they trade well

where are u guys at typically on damage meters? i feel like im not doing nearly enough damage as simple as it is

[true tiger]

in shuffle?

[pastel swan]

yea

@true tiger

[urban skiff]

Odd question, but is there a way to make an ingame event hit "play" on whatever videoplayer is currently linked to the windows play button?

Like if i've been in youtube and press play on my headset or keyboard it'll default to start playing that youtube video

[true tiger]

im mostly second

depends on lobby

rly

cant judge by only spec

[urban skiff]

skirmish is so weird

losing the moonkin after a few seconds and having to 1v2 a warrior + frostmage

[true tiger]

bcs its skirmish

[urban skiff]

well yeah

the good thing about skirmish is the short games

maybe it's because i'm shaman but i never really feel like any dps v dps matchups are too unfair

except 2x sub rogue

even feral + rogue is doable

@green wharf

it's insanely more efficient for gold making to have the mount

[green wharf]

im buying a frew, i have like 12

[urban skiff]

hmm

there's like 50 right now at 3500, i should buy and bring price up to 4.5k instead

oh well

price drop next week, i'll pick up 300ish then at 2k and resell

[green wharf]

You can buy and save, i imagine it will be a lot expensive in season 2

[urban skiff]

yea but these I'm selling at 3.5k right now i bought at 2.2k

next week is honor / bg week so we're gonna see a lot of people trying to dump honor into tokens

why am i only just now realizing that flameshock is also providing dispel protection for enhancement?

that's kind of cool

[true tiger]

skirmish is a joke

dont look at it as serious pvp

[urban skiff]

never said it was serious

Idk why everyone feels the need to state this whenever you say skirmish

[true tiger]

u can 1v2 every skirmish games tbg

[urban skiff]

Imagine a kid showing you a toy proudly and you come in swinging going "toys are a joke. toys aren't serious"

it's just fun, nothing more 🙂

[true tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/chewin-the-fat-scottish-comedy-santa-no-santa-santa-not-real-gif-20074254

[green wharf]

pvp in this game isnt serious though

[true tiger]

true

blitz is also a joke

only skill u can show is in 3v3

[urban skiff]

Blitz is fun though

I don't give aaaany fucks about showing skill

[true tiger]

oof it can be stressing

[urban skiff]

I just want to press stormstrike

[green wharf]

i meant all pvp

its worse balanced than pet battle

[urban skiff]

I'm not here to show off or display skill

I'm just here to have a good time

hit some stormstrikes, get hit with some stormstrikes

I think it's the difference between doing karate and doing MMA.

One's just because it's fun and interesting and you can laugh at getting the wind knocked out of you

and MMA is all anger and trying to climb some imaginary hierarchy and establishing who is tHe MoSt MaLe

[green wharf]

i actually dislike MMA a lot

but i do like boxe

[true tiger]

most fun is on epic bgs

[urban skiff]

I think MMA has its place, but it's been taken over by a group of people who shouldn't be doing MMA until they solve their mental issues

[green wharf]

dont find entertaining/fun people rolling on the ground or throwing kicks

[urban skiff]

I wish the game could handle epic bgs better

UI for 40v40 is atrocious, too much clutter, the bgs themselves are just sandboxes instead of guided fights

Like imagine if it was more like overwatch where you have objectives and "rounds" instead of the first team fight deciding the next 30 minutes

epic bgs should be more like 4x 10v10 matches in different places where performance across the entire bg determines outcome 🙂

[true tiger]

go normal bgs its most fun there

[urban skiff]

i prefer blitz

but currently in a spot where I can't do them much because kids + wife has an exam coming up

[green wharf]

didnt they tried to do that with asharan

[urban skiff]

yeah, it was kind of cool

but still turned into too much 40v40

iit's begun, the undercutter

Less than 30 minutes to empty my inventory

what is this guy's tactic? move one at a time and sink the price?

[green wharf]

no idea

sometimes you put a item who value like 200

you put two at 50 and 30 at 199

people think everything si 100 and they buy

[urban skiff]

there's no shortage of bots trying to trick people into putting auctions up at half price

but this isn't it

[fierce elm]

Bro you are just playing JOKE GAMEMODES SMH

[urban skiff]

DID SOMEONE SAY JOKE

[fierce elm]

wdym you arent grinding 5000 3s games daily

[urban skiff]

wait until they see my build!

[fierce elm]

work is da poop rn

[urban skiff]

did you try not working?

tbh I'm kind of at work right now

But I made someone else do it for me because he lives closer 😄

[fierce elm]

The people I work with today are real strict workers

so cant just relax either

gotta look like I am working

[urban skiff]

also i made my team leader act as backup so I don't have to lift a finger

[urban skiff]

that's the real energy

[fierce elm]

off for 2.5 weeks after this

might get some studying going

after I waste a week doing nothing

[true tiger]

what in the abomination is that

[urban skiff]

it's the goat

all i have to do is autoattack

[true tiger]

spam SS totemic build?

[urban skiff]

yup

[true tiger]

bonkerss

gonna try

[fierce elm]

He has reached the true endgame

[true tiger]

bro knows what the dog doin

bro knows victorias secret

[urban skiff]

lol

remember you have to go all haste too

[true tiger]

i was doing all haste alltime entire season

both enha and ele

[urban skiff]

I have like 4k conq stored, i have half a mind to try and go low vers

[true tiger]

tried mastery ele but it was ass

and totemic mastery enha was slow af

[urban skiff]

I want to love totemic elementalist

but lava lash is just such a boring ability to press

[true tiger]

i dont like totemic bcs it lacks burst

[urban skiff]

S2 is gonna kill enh for me so I'm just enjoying it while i can

Removal of Ride the Lightning makes all stormstrike builds just feel way way way worse and no ancestral guidance? yikes

They should bake the effect into earth elemental at reduced effect to compensate for the longer ele duratin

[true tiger]

AS is overrated

i dont like it

[urban skiff]

how?

[true tiger]

too long CD

[true tiger]

u macro it with ascend?

[urban skiff]

nop

I pair it with Bulwark but on separate cooldowns

But I do macro it with Gift of the Naaru (but it won't fire because gift is on gcd)

[true tiger]

idk i pref healing stream totem

[urban skiff]

you can have both

[true tiger]

instead of what

its ele btw

[urban skiff]

wait, you're ele

[true tiger]

y

[urban skiff]

yeah idk then

it's great for enh because globals i'd use to put out heals can be used on more damage during burst

I've been messing with a theoretical build

but you'll hate it

using peewave to proc deeply rooted elements via the many lightning bolts in big group fights in like bgs

[true tiger]

oh no i hate DRE

that ass shit ability bro

[urban skiff]

I hate its unpredictability

[true tiger]

it never procs

[urban skiff]

the point is to make it predictable

[true tiger]

if it procs

its on worst time

[urban skiff]

via peewave

m8, you missed half the sentence

[true tiger]

ye i see it working in bgs

[urban skiff]

voltaic blaze will spread flameshock to 5 targets, dropping totem and using flame shock will spread it 5 more targets

that's 36% chance to proc ascendance per press of peewave if you max your flameshock spread twice

[true tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-emoji-what-say-what-wait-what-gif-4624697785713851431

blizz devs

doing math

[urban skiff]

just completely ditch wolves for peewave+DRE, unfortunately it's hard to get all the way to splintered elements without giving up something else that's really nice

and they didn't think to put enough pvp aoe training dummies in so i could run actual tests 😦

@fierce elm should i?

[fierce elm]

no

[urban skiff]

I have no idea they're used on

[fierce elm]

You should fly over here and take my shift

the basic 606 gear iirc

something like that

[urban skiff]

ooooh

I remembered the base gear being 613 as well

[fierce elm]

yeah something like that

its practically useless

but people instabuy it

[urban skiff]

tbh if my levelling method didn't leave me with thousands of bloody tokens I'd probably buy that gear on first ding 80

lmao

It's not that it was 1v2. It's not that they were going 1v1.

it's that they then change course real fucking fast when i put the hunter into 10% bubble

[true tiger]

blitz gonna make me need therapist

i swear

how are all npc in my game

[slow solstice]

i cant find waldo

[urban skiff]

keep looking

@fierce elm back above 2m

[fierce elm]

fucking nerd

Im in a freezer rn

its cold af

[north thicket]

Any dps benchmarks for Arms Col and Slayer on the single-target pvp dummy in Dornogal?

[urban skiff]

No, make your own

[north thicket]

Realistic as possible, not full PvE rotation

Arms Col might be still significantly undertuned even if you land all your Demos on the dummy (which doesn't happen in reality)

Like Fury is 900k-1m avg on the dummy - Arms Col (Spear) ~700k, Arms Slayer ~800k

[sour crag]

Aaand we're back to square one within less than a day

I just don't understand

Am I cursed with these matchups?

[fierce elm]

So you found out what everyone else knew

[fierce elm]

this looks like a good matchup

Lack of hpala and mage, so yeah

[sour crag]

Well I stgill kept losing despite doing my best to upkeep the damage

It's either trying to nuke Arms and get barraged by chaos bolts by the warlock, or the windwalker going full nuke on me.

then I see my teammates losing health and I panic not knowing whta to do next

[fierce elm]

Get close to the warlock and stick to him and he cant randomly cast chaos bolts

both the WW and other warrior has to be close to yall to deal damage anyways

[sour crag]

Yeah but how do I keep them from nuking me despite using intimidating shout and/or Engraged Regeneration?

What should I keep track of from the warlock?

[fierce elm]

Well, you pretty much remove most of lock burst by stopping chaos bolts

WW is gonna nuke you whatever you do honestly

Dstance+regen is enough to survive it

However neither you nor the warrior are doing damage, being outdamaged by a destro usually means something is wrong

[sour crag]

Yeah no shit, I'm trying to figure out why.

do I keep being sloppy with my rotation or am I too ignorant of what other classes do?

[fierce elm]

The Lock seems to be freecasting

[sour crag]

It feels fucking wierd trying to do damage when their healthbars remain full

[fierce elm]

I cant analyze this from just text and scoreboards

I mean the only lock thing you really gotta track is the giant shield

if you see that just swap off

[sour crag]

Don't I need to damage the shield to make it go away?

[fierce elm]

Has a duration uptime

So its not infinite no

This doesnt mean you should walk away from the lock, but rather hit the other target while keeping everyone neat and stacked on the warlock

[sour crag]

How can I do that when I can't control where my target is going when I tunnel them?

Other than slowing them down. Stuns barely do anything anyway

[fierce elm]

They have to be in melee range of you and or your teammate

if they arent on a target they arent dealing damage

hence, you can guide them towards the warlock by walking towards the warlock

[sour crag]

If I face a team having both caster and melee, say hunter and windwalker, what should I main target?

What's the priority list?

[fierce elm]

Target runs away at high HP and you have no pressure, hit the lock

I would never hit a hunter

But it all depends on so many factors

[north thicket]

Afro do people still play Wrecking vs Lock's shield (and priest)

or talent is very weak

[fierce elm]

Your general idea when facing a ranged+a melee is that you can always force the melee to stack

Talent sucks

[sour crag]

If I face a mage n warlock, who do I target?

[north thicket]

Lock because you can't keep up with mage anyway?

[sour crag]

But the warlock is so freaking tanky

[north thicket]

Just hit the nearest target

We are forced to play like monkeys against monkeys that have superior toolkit

[sour crag]

When do I ever choose to mainly target the healer?

[north thicket]

It looks to me that in the current meta we almost never go after a good healer

Although I try to swap on him to check his awareness

But probably Afro can give u better advice

[sour crag]

Less brainpower please, I need simple solutions.

because I can no longer trust my random teammates what tar to pick

It's worked half the time

[fickle forge]

Simple solution is to improve rotation

Because there's definitely a lack of damage

[sour crag]

I do everything in my power to spam Rampage and keep my CDs flare. I can't damage because I haven't learned what target I should prioritise. I get lost in the chaos.

[fickle forge]

Train the lock

[fierce elm]

You can almost always put Mage/Hunter as a non-train target

you wont keep up

[sour crag]

Since it's Solo Shuffle, I can't trust anyone but myself on the team, it seems.

[fierce elm]

The only real time to swap healer is if he gets too close

Or you are playing with a DK

[fickle forge]

Yeah you aren't a team in shuffle

[fierce elm]

No need to overcomplicate stuff here

[fickle forge]

You're competitors

[sour crag]

Okay, so ignore mage and hunter in general?

[fickle forge]

You can push on mages that walk up to do CC

[fierce elm]

Unless they get to close, or you have to swap due to a huge defensive

You can also you know, grind solo shuffle and figure out quickly what specs you cant catch

[sour crag]

I don't wanna keep grinding more until I've learned more context.

I don't want to keep losing due to ignorance.

Okay, so don't bother damaging absorbs and just switch target until it fades?

[fickle forge]

The only absorb to ignore is Cocoon

Unless it's deep damp

[sour crag]

cocoon..?

[fickle forge]

Mistweaver

[sour crag]

You mean that giant green absorb shield which is more or less a invincible bubble?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[sour crag]

I thought it was useless to even bother DPSing that

[fickle forge]

It is

Unless it's deep damp

[sour crag]

do monks have that?

[fickle forge]

Mistweaver does

[sour crag]

I still don't know all the CDs out there

I dont have a list to track things

[true tiger]

if u see that bubble

stop attacking

[north thicket]

@fickle forge can you export some basic and lean OmniBar and OmniAuras settings in icy veins guide

[fickle forge]

I just use basic settings man

I didn't customize anything

[north thicket]

Not customizing the spells shown?

[fickle forge]

Honestly I stopped using Omnibar for anything but kicks

[north thicket]

Got it

[sour crag]

Right, ignore hunter and mage, stop attacking the green bubble. What else should I bear in mind in Shuffle?

[north thicket]

What do you do when you have both hunter and mage on the enemy team?

[sour crag]

Uuuh...

Nuke healer...?

[north thicket]

Wrong answer

You baptize yourself

:))))

[sour crag]

Not really a helpful answer.

[north thicket]

Pray in the corner until round is over

Yeah, I also don't know the answer

Probably go after the less skilled player between mage and hunter

Or simply try to stick to mage since at least you might kick a sheep or two

[sour crag]

I do could use an Omnibar spell import

Particiarly for major CDs. Interrupts are meh

[fickle forge]

I'd just focus on doing more damage bro

[sour crag]

Yeah but.

Like I keep telling you

My damage is useless if I don't know what I'm fighting against.

[fierce elm]

Thats actually not true

[sour crag]

Again, I don't know even haldf the cooldowns to avoid trying toi damage against

[fierce elm]

If you know how to do damage and uptime thats about 90% of the game solved for you right there

[sour crag]

I haven't learned other classes other than warrior

[fierce elm]

at least at this MMR

Because people cant deal with pressure

[sour crag]

Well I can't really do damahge if the enemy keeps trolling me with their mitigations and kiting me.

[fierce elm]

And your way of avoiding stuff as warrior is get up and hit them

Kiting is an uptime issue

[sour crag]

You make it sound so simple, when everything pointed at me states the opposite.

[fierce elm]

You are focusing on the 10% instead of the 90%

I have stated this since the start

[sour crag]

YOu truly believe I should just tunnelvision on a target and just keep spamming Rampage as much as possiple, and it'll work out in the end?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[fierce elm]

Yes

as of now, yes

[sour crag]

Well I keep hunting them down abut it still takes 5 minites because everybody has already gotten their cooldowns refreshed.

Then people figure out "HMMM THIS FURY GUY IS SQUISHY" or "LETS NUKE THAT OTHER GUY WHILE THIS GUY IS BUSY CHASING THE OTHER"

In other words, making me a fool for ignoring how my teammates are doing

And then when I try to save them, I lost my damage output

So I can't rely on my damage doing any profit, and I can't rely on my teammates.

So what the hell am I going to do?

[fierce elm]

You rely on the thing you can rely on, which is your own gameplay

which is uptime, damage and pressure

Thankfully you are playing the best spec to focus on this, because what are you gonna do if your teammates in danger realistically

you cant really stop CC, you have intervene as a teammate cooldown

You are right now falling into a trap a lot of new people fall in, thinking you have to learn every spec at the start

You dont, deal damage, apply pressure and uptime and you are going to win games

Which is the best way to learn, by doing

[sour crag]

And what when I see my healer and other DPS has half their health left?

[fierce elm]

You are right now trying to learn how to do a backflip while not knowing how to stand on your own two feet

[sour crag]

Ignore and keep pushing?

[fierce elm]

What would you do about it

Intervene? Yeah that doesnt do much, Stun? Sure, rally? doesnt do much

However, dealing damage forces people to play defensively

[sour crag]

Well since I would lose anyway if one teammate dies, I would try to interve- or I guess not.

[fierce elm]

You do not want to play defensively as fury

Worst case they die

Worst case they die sometimes even if they get intervene

it happens

[sour crag]

So if a teammate dies it's "Not my fault, it's theirs"?, when it comes to Solo?