pvp

[keen epoch]

Just coming back to WoW after a long break. The hearing process for pvp was foreign to me but I got invited to a group last night grabbing crates! How often do these groups happen?!? I got about 2/3 of my pvp gear done in a couple hours just flying around with a raid full of hoard players wrecking every crate! So much better than the battlegrounds and such that I was doing! The only bad part is now that I am mostly geared I can’t blame my failures and deaths on a gear issue.

[fierce elm]

The groups happen quite often

But its more valuable now due to bloody tokens/conquest being uncapped

So a bunch of people might be gearing alts and such

[keen epoch]

Amazing! Now I’ll be staring at the group finder all day!

[fickle forge]

There are WPvP groups a lot

It's a slower grind to do it this way, but it can be pretty fun

[keen epoch]

I’m pretty intimidated by the solo shuffle world since I don’t even totally understand how my defensives and control stuff works and I have no clue on other class cooldowns but at least this gave me a foot in the door.

[fickle forge]

This and BGs are pretty much the same, except WPvP are an open sandbox with no objectives

[sterile moth]

Do people really not know what OOM means anymore? Christ I’m old

[green wharf]

what that means

[sterile moth]

It means out of mana

[green wharf]

i play for like 13 years, only tried rated pvp now

[fierce elm]

OOM is used in every type of content where you run out of mana lmao

[green wharf]

Also, im not american, so these terms and abreviations dont flip on me

[fickle forge]

There's even a voice emote with /oom

[wheat jay]

oom is old as fuck

been in wow since classic i believe

and in other games

[elfin surge]

❓🇺🇸🦅🫡

[rancid granite]

some people are just slow to catch on to the SLAM builds i guess

especially now when +30 rage talent is 1 point only

or well next patch

full crit/mast Bless build but add in slam

https://youtu.be/sKLm38tnFWo

[copper fox]

2 of my top emojis ngl

[green wharf]

these two?:❓ 🫡

[copper fox]

🦅🫡

[fickle forge]

Idk why people cope wit hthe crit/mast thing

It's so horrendous

[rancid granite]

i think only bless does lol

it like halfed my dps when i tried it

big bonks were fun to see though

[fickle forge]

It definitely shouldn't cut it in half

It's not that severe

But haste is warrior's most vital stat

All builds and iterations

[fierce elm]

uhm technically Strength is better

[fickle forge]

🤓

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-ackshually-skin-tone-chicken-bone-gif-5992208790856944796

[wheat jay]

next season will be fun

cuz most specs wont even play tier sets

[fierce elm]

Outlaw having a 25% chance to roll 5 buffs on RTB : )

[sterile moth]

I tried crit…it was unplayable 😞

[wheat jay]

from tier set?

dh and warr are dogshit afaik

[fierce elm]

Tier set combined with one talent

[wheat jay]

hunter is whatever

lmao

[fierce elm]

gives a 25% chance to roll 5 buffs on RTB

[wheat jay]

that's huge then isnt it?

[fierce elm]

Tested on PTR

it can be pretty big

[wheat jay]

sheesh

[fierce elm]

so yeah

[wheat jay]

this is terrible lmao

survi is kinda good

[green wharf]

hope so, fuck dh and those knife ear bastards

[fickle forge]

The tier sets really downgraded fr

[fierce elm]

5 roll: 27
2 roll: 17
1 roll: 56
This is about what you can expect from 100 RTB rolls with tier+sleight @wheat jay

: )

[green wharf]

people were mad cause butchering and something else will be a choice node

[fickle forge]

Sounds like a PvE issue

[green wharf]

and the fix of that issue will be a pvp issue

[fickle forge]

Most likely

[wheat jay]

butchery and flanking strike

so, aoe spender and single target generator will now be on a choice node

[wheat jay]

worse cleave, worse ST, worse spec design i guess

[fickle forge]

You're just gonna be picking Flanking and do what you do now anyway

[wheat jay]

no, cuz i won't be using butchery

[fickle forge]

So you're gonna do your mega hit and then hit a mega DoT

[wheat jay]

ye, same dot as now, but with double the cooldown

but that leaves a free global to use raptor strike right?

for sweet average 250k per hit

[fickle forge]

Oh well

Just another day of Blizzard not playing their game

[wheat jay]

but hey i can take butchery

and do 50% of the dot

BUT

that's not all

I also lose flanking strike

so

ye

i guess kfc is dead

cuz blizz is shitting on my spec every fucking season

not even expansion

[fickle forge]

There's a god spec on your class that's ripe for the taking brother

[wheat jay]

bitch

i dont remember seeing ARMS HUNTER when choosing a spec

or did i miss something?

[tribal holly]

Sounds like some sort of serial killer

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Anyway, survi is deadge

Blizz should remove the spec

And make sth in its place lol

[fierce elm]

Artji dooming over PTR patches, nothing changes lmao

[wheat jay]

Current survi too

[fierce elm]

Nothing changes

[fickle forge]

Nothing changes

Artji is the perfect hypeman, but also the perfect bait for bad situations

[wheat jay]

my spec changes, fuck you

thats literally what im talking about

[fickle forge]

I can't remember how many times you talked down on people when their spec changed and they cried

[wheat jay]

dont remember laughing at specs being gutted design wise

number wise, always

[lavish quest]

The number changes are always a design change for you

[fickle forge]

Maybe when survival get its 9th rework it'll be good

[wheat jay]

I very much doubt it 😦

[fickle forge]

25th rework then

[wheat jay]

MAYBE

small sliver of hope at 25h

[fierce elm]

I remember Artji scanning every patch notes

dooming it out

or hyping it up

[wheat jay]

stfu afro

nerd

[fierce elm]

as the greatest thing that would ever be released

[wheat jay]

go sit in stealth

[fierce elm]

This is the Artji cycle

[wheat jay]

noone wants to see you anyway

[fierce elm]

lmao

"SURVIVAL IS SO BUSTED"

"SURVIVAL IS SO DEAD"

[wheat jay]

i can bust on your bald ass head

[fierce elm]

The cycle repeats

[wheat jay]

shoo now

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/were-back-its-over-gif-24400541

[wheat jay]

away with you

[fierce elm]

lmao

Artji is the biggest flip flopper I have ever seen

[fickle forge]

GUYS THIS NEW MMO LOOKS AMAZING

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

Nvm it's trash af

[fierce elm]

lmao

GUYS THIS MMO SUCKS

NVM ITS SO GOOD

NVM IT SUCKS

[fickle forge]

Artji could have been my ex fr

[wheat jay]

Ex gf (gladiator friend)

[fickle forge]

The way you made my mmr swing I'd say so yeah

[urban skiff]

ya'll the 5070 is huge

[fierce elm]

Dont trust the numbers

I dont trust them until someone turns off DSLL and we can then compare numbers

Dont trust the FAKE FPS

[urban skiff]

without DLSS, in maxed out CP2077 the 4090 is 21 fps

[fickle forge]

Wait it's using DSL and not GPL?

[urban skiff]

the 5070 under same conditions is 27 fps

[fierce elm]

Dick sucking lips

I dont trust

[urban skiff]

add in dlss 4.0 is going to kick ass vs dlss 3.0

and the price is ridiculous

[fierce elm]

I am waiting for someone to use it baseline in a video

Not that I have looked for it

because I aint in the market to upgrade

But I am not trusting SHIT

[urban skiff]

Bro I don't care if the frames are fake. I just squint until I can't tell

[fierce elm]

the frames are FAKE

[urban skiff]

Frames are like boobs

You don't care as long as they look real

[fierce elm]

I aint TRUSTIJNG

[wheat jay]

You care

And its all frame generation and ai smoothing isnt it?

[urban skiff]

I'm just happy playing cyberpunk with 144 fps

[fierce elm]

Cyberpunk is also the worst game to test stuff out dont @ me

[urban skiff]

I don't care if a frame looks smudged if I start filming the monitor with a slowmotion cam

[fierce elm]

that shit is impossible for any consumer PC to play at max everything lmao

[urban skiff]

wrong

[fierce elm]

Truth

Without the use of dlss

[urban skiff]

but you don't like the uncomfortable truth that you don't have to use 4k resolution

[fierce elm]

with playable frames lmao

[urban skiff]

You can max out graphics at 240p lol

[fierce elm]

4k resolution is max everything

max everything

[urban skiff]

8k is max

[fierce elm]

Alright

max everything includes 8k

lmao

[urban skiff]

or is it

I'm just being dramatic 🙂

[fierce elm]

yeah BITCHBOI

Tbf the game is wildly good looking at medium graphics too

[urban skiff]

truth

[fierce elm]

I think I was playing at High, no Ray tracing and DSLL

and it was beautiful

While still getting mad frames

[urban skiff]

But I started playing it on a 970 gtx so no matter how pretty I make it, it's ugly in my heart 😦

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

I just lowered the big RT button until I hit 144 fps stable

[wheat jay]

graphics are secondary

gameplay is primary

EZ

[urban skiff]

why do I keep trying to make veal fillet?

I'm never happy with the result

PSA: Bloodstones remain the source of sockets in s2

[fierce elm]

So buy as many Bloodstones as possible from AH

then sell in s2 lmao

[urban skiff]

bought these yesterday at 2.5k

Bought enough to raise the price above 3k

[elfin surge]

who remembers rift farming for sockets in shadowlands

[urban skiff]

so around 110k profit just from yesterday to today

Battleground bonus event next week, so i sell these if they hit 4k, then use the gold next week to buy back when it drops to 3k

Good plan

[fickle forge]

They have to sell first before it's a profit bro

[urban skiff]

I know

last time I sold hundreds they were gone in minutes

region sale rate of 0.8

pretty safe

and it's like less than 2 weeks since i did that

[fickle forge]

I don't press Lava Lash bro

I play storm

[urban skiff]

BROOO

Why you riding my tail then for not having lava lash bound

[fickle forge]

Cause you're trying to play a build that circles around Lava Lash

And not using it

Lmao

[urban skiff]

is it really trying when it works?

[fickle forge]

I meeeeeeean

Does it really work though

Maybe for your fun it does

[urban skiff]

people die and I don't have to think

that's two success criteria

[fickle forge]

You can make anyone die in skirmishes though

With a legion artifact weapon if you desired

You're playing a build that plays around surging totem, and surging totem procs big dam when you hit sundering, which lash procs

[urban skiff]

that's true

but also i stack the damage mod on the totem way higher than an elementalist could

the theoretical max is 27 stacks

[wheat jay]

in high arenas too

[fickle forge]

Yeah but does that matter when every global you're pushing out a 200% tremor with Hot Hands

[urban skiff]

but stoooooormstrike

[deft ridge]

lash is bis :)

[urban skiff]

but lash is kinda boring

tbh

[exotic forge]

That's a nice argument, however

Stormstrike

[urban skiff]

stormstrike is GREAT

even crash lightning before 11.1 is more interesting than lava lash

[lavish quest]

Do you even know high arena?

[urban skiff]

m8 i can't even spell arena

you think warrior dumb? enh is spicy dumb

[wheat jay]

id kill you with legion weapon bitchboi

and the best thing is that its not even a lie

i once won a 2s game at like 2300 or so with legion weapon

into bm hunter

[lavish quest]

Not with how bad you are

[fickle forge]

You gotta remember Artji is a bad player who has AWC moments

This was his AWC moment

[lavish quest]

I killed someone with a legion weapon. It was most likely Legion

[sterile moth]

What am I missing with slayer? I seem to do same or slightly better single target dps with Thane and vastly more cleave.

Is it just the mobility?

[lavish quest]

Bladestorm more

Probably more borst

Not sure if than is more ST since I never run it

[fickle forge]

Cleave yes

And 5% less stam

[sterile moth]

Yeah slayer bladestorm is probably the thing

[atomic mango]

do the move to the next season or will they change the needed gem to a different one ?

[urban skiff]

Gem stays, socket have to buy new socket with gems as currency

[atomic mango]

ok ty

[faint girder]

How do I make so my enemy’s nameplates in arena show what Arena target (1,2,3) it is, instead of name?

[slow solstice]

i do not believe that is possible

[urban skiff]

weakaura should be able to do it+

my enemies don't have names, just numbers

[slow solstice]

poggers

[wheat jay]

Nah

In legion i was playing warrior only

[slow solstice]

@lavish quest come play ptr

🙂

[lavish quest]

Ptr? Lul

Also I'm at work

[chilly pivot]

any good pvp news for fury from ptr?

[wheat jay]

No

[lavish quest]

They haven't literally removed us from the game yet. That's kinda pog

They've done everything but, but still.

[chilly pivot]

seems like thane is more played rn?

[lavish quest]

No clue, I hardly log wow

I'd check murlok.io

Always trust murloks

https://tenor.com/view/murloc-dancing-murloc-claquette-fred-astair-dancing-gif-12136397

[verbal tangle]

So stock up on gems?

[urban skiff]

Is what i did. I forgot to check what happened to the price now late at night. It's gonna be fine

[boreal veldt]

Auction house is where the REAL pvp in WoW is

Seal of Wallstreet

[verbal tangle]

HoJ has a whole new meaning

[boreal veldt]

[rancid granite]

im like a 1400 hard stuck AH player

i buy the most useless things and lose em and waste em and end up needing to sell more wow tokens

[sharp meteor]

Korthia in general was kind of bleak.

[boreal veldt]

Taking a cruiseline contract and dodging korthia is the highlight of my wow career

"The new zone will be in the Maw-.."
lmao no

[green wharf]

i went there once in DF

not anymore

[rancid granite]

i did too and i died by just walking, somehow

i hearthed and never went back

[sharp meteor]

idk unchained was kind of a banger for arms

[boreal veldt]

unchained glad was a banger title

[green wharf]

its not much but its honest work

[boreal veldt]

🫡

[green wharf]

one of my dumbest wins yet

won by 20 because i got one last base

100 to go

[green wharf]

1500 to 2100 bloodly hell the mmr in this game is fucked

[torn sigil]

whats the move vs demo lock? literally 20% of my games the last 2 weeks demo locks

[green wharf]

thats a lineup i guess

[green wharf]

interrupt his tyrant

keep close

try to reflect death coil

[true tiger]

bro i was in 2.7k mmr lobby and we had 1.5k cr guy like tf

[green wharf]

blizzard is killing our dawgs

evoker is such a gay class

[vapid tartan]

placement mmr is just cooked

hopefully they fix for s2

[sharp meteor]

Had this guy in a 3200 game.

The power of winning a few games in a row.

[green wharf]

wish there was damp in blitzz

[green wharf]

every game you get like -200 mmv if you lose and -200 if you win

who designed this letarded system i dunno

[sharp meteor]

Lot of dull stalemate brawls.

Although I guess that's kind of my thing, ehehe.

Me go mid. Me spin flag. Life is simple.

[green wharf]

its very cringe, 3 people beating off a priest and he doesnt die

or a evoker, that shit ass class

[sharp meteor]

I just had a deepwind where 5 enemy players came mid vs me and mw

and we sat there as their map burned

[green wharf]

who though it was a good idea to give then immunity to 3 cc

[sharp meteor]

and not once did they get the base

[green wharf]

your team or the enemy

cause its usually mine

[sharp meteor]

enemy

[green wharf]

me+healer against 4 and we still lose every damn base

[sharp meteor]

sometimes it be like that

[green wharf]

is like people are playing with the ass

[sharp meteor]

also dude playing tank in blitz is a vibe so u dont do dmg or worry about kills u just spin

every dps meathead cant watch the flag

i look away from crystal or flag for 4 seconds its gone

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

i was climbing prot but with 40-50m q i stopped

trying to climb as arms, but its like you are a train of glass

you can deal damage, but damn arent you frail as fuck

[fickle forge]

Considering to go blitz with destro so I can turn my brain off fully

[green wharf]

after i get 1800 i will go back to warlock

fuck melee

the neat portalw arlock have is clutch for the base maps

one fucker wa getting market all the time because of it

[fickle forge]

I consistently see career rival destros clean fights because CB is broken in that bracket

Havoc in the ground and shoot 10 CBs per cast

[green wharf]

did they buff it?

cause when i climb to 1600 was shaite

[fickle forge]

They did a bit ago

[green wharf]

had to play demo to get to 1950

[cinder tundra]

standard slayer build: where i should take a talent point from, for wrecking/shattering throw node?

[green wharf]

depends on the one you have

people usually get howl

[green wharf]

you def need thunderous words

[cinder tundra]

got a build to share, or link to one?

skillcapped guide is slightly different but that doesnt have Throws, or Words either

kinda new-returning player on warrior-pvp-alt so don't have yet much personal insight on builds

[green wharf]

im doing this for blitz

[cinder tundra]

Thanks!

[fickle forge]

You don't need words for fury no

Just drop the kick cdr talent for throw

[green wharf]

ah fury

i though he was talking about arms

btw, this is a game on my bracket

fine when im not against 2k evoker and monks fucks who know who FC

[native mesa]

Hi guys in fury mountain thane build in pvp i have to prio bloodthirst or ragin blow

Talkin about shuffles

[true tiger]

damn the guy we had didnot even know that he needed to stand in cart range,was always outside

[coarse scarab]

do u ever use shieldblock as arms or fury in pvp?

[fierce elm]

nope

[fickle forge]

BT

[native mesa]

Why bt instead ragin

?

[fickle forge]

So you can proc Thunder Blast

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff Swapped Bench for incline smith instead due to shoulder

So starting lower than expected because dont wanna re-aggravate it

[urban skiff]

Did you try not having a bad shoulder?

[fierce elm]

Yeah I did

for 25 years lmao

But figured it wouldnt do harm to start lower and slowly increase

so just doing 100 first week

[urban skiff]

Curious when i last did incline bench, hang on

[fierce elm]

I PRd it Jan last year before injuries began happening lmao

or maybe it was april

[urban skiff]

Incline db press: 1496 days ago

[fierce elm]

kek

[urban skiff]

Incline barbell bench 2806 days ago

[fierce elm]

I threw in Incline before merely to get 3 plates on it before stopping lmao

[urban skiff]

Man i've used this app for a while

[fierce elm]

Just so I could claim 3pl8 incline

Then I got dip obsessed and didnt bench or anything for a while

[urban skiff]

I keep forgetting i can claim 3pl8 bench. I don't even think about how close i am to 4pl8

[fierce elm]

If I dont get re-injured 4pl8s is falling late this year or next year

I refuse to get Children before I can bench 4pl8s

Those lil fucks will know that they can never outlift their old man

[urban skiff]

On incline or flat? I'm at 148 but could have gone 152 if i hadn't been distracted by a kid moving into my weight zone

[fierce elm]

I aint doing incline 4pl8s ever lmao

But flat I could probably do

Whilst remaining drugfree*

Important note there

[fickle forge]

Don't let Rootfro deceive you

[urban skiff]

I should try and see what my back squat is at these days. 817 days ago since i did a regular squat

[fickle forge]

He's pumped to the brim with herbs

[fierce elm]

Been about 5 years since I last squatted kek

[urban skiff]

Drugs a fun though

[fierce elm]

They are

But, GF forbids it

[fickle forge]

No shit lmao

You were miserable just being on herbs

Getting trened up prob gonna make you insufferable

[urban skiff]

Last time i squatted above 4pl8 was in 2019

[fierce elm]

Ashwaganda was a miserable experience

[fickle forge]

It was fun for us at least

[fierce elm]

Also I already look sus rn to the average person

so yeah lmao

[fickle forge]

What is that supposed to mean

I remember the Afro who'd tell me it ain't good enough until you need a personal tailor for all your clothing

[fierce elm]

That its illegal and something the police are very keen at arresting for

And I aint tryna get a police charge on my registry

[urban skiff]

I was approached by the peecups but he said it was fine, because i didn't have much weight on the bar.

I was still warming up lol

Ended up going into a zumba class until he left

[fierce elm]

And a man at 116kgs with a bicep vein benching 170+ while doing 2pl8s for 5 on pullups can be kinda sus as fuck

[fickle forge]

Just be happy you're a mutant

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to pass my genes down tbh

lmao

[fierce elm]

Havent been approached yet

BUT, its a small place

They did raid the gym about 30 minutes away last year

[urban skiff]

Here they can only raid gyms that agree to be part of the system.

But if you don't join the anti doping group, then you get a sad smiley.

[fierce elm]

Every gym here is subject to it

At least commercial gyms

[urban skiff]

But that just became a quick way for PED users to find gyms with fellow PED users

[fierce elm]

And thats the only place I can train

[urban skiff]

I can get a piece of paper that says i can use drugs but don't want to

[fierce elm]

So it can be risky af if you are already a big dude

[urban skiff]

So much work for something everyone else can do

[fierce elm]

Know a couple of guys but none of them are sus whatsoever

[urban skiff]

I think there are 10x more PED users who are casual and not otherwise in great shape, than there are huge hulking beasts roided up to the gills.

[fierce elm]

Something like that

Everyone I know has somewhat mediocre lifts and arent jacked dudes either

Looks like your average gym goer after 2 years

basically

[urban skiff]

Pretty much my experience as well

[green wharf]

climb myself to 1780 just to fall apart and end 1650

blitz is so cringe sometimes

you think you will escape evokers from shuffle for then to fuck u up with a flag

[green wharf]

just had a dude who didnt cap the flag, when we reach 1350 in eye of the storm, and wait till we won by one base

and it was like, huge TF in the base, risk of losing and it was like 1350 vs 1295

i have to commend him for his balls of titanium

but what a dickhead

[sterile moth]

@green wharf a lot of people don’t know how eots works at that rating. Have had so many games thrown because of it

It’s also too easy accidentally cap a flag in eye when you’re trying to hold it

[green wharf]

no he knew

he was just a dickhead

now my mmv is bricked cause losing 3 games means losing 600 mmv

worst rating system i ever seen in a game

[boreal veldt]

heckin love dips

[sterile moth]

Yeah it’s really rough

[green anchor]

https://i.imgur.com/VoON9nO.png

I wish I knew this existed a week ago lmao

[sand sundial]

Calisthenics>weightlifting

[copper fox]

If you’re a weak bum yea

[sterile moth]

@green anchor dang didn’t know about it either

[hasty pulsar]

why blizz make monks the most annoying class in the game

[green anchor]

Devastation Evokers are ten times more annoying

it's already gg whenever i face one

can't stick to him for a second while he's doing 800k dps

I'd rather face a frost mage instead of an evoker

iirc the worst I've faced is a survival + bm hunter

sit in cc all game

[hasty pulsar]

dunno i think monks more annoying but thats just me

[urban skiff]

Woooh i squatted 20kg! @fierce elm

[urban skiff]

That's just something flexible people with great bodies say

[sand sundial]

nice cope

watch my handstand pushups

[copper fox]

Lmfao handstand pushup

15 year old kids be doing those

Show me a 700+ deadlift

[urban skiff]

We used to do those at bording school. Like a billion because it was a gymnastics school.

[rancid granite]

me too

[hasty pulsar]

I swear a good monk just owns the shit out of me

Even when I think I did everything I could

[rancid granite]

i made one cause of it and they are equally as annoying to play lol

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah damn I don’t doubt for a second it’s a very high skill cap spec

Or class in general I should say

[sand sundial]

i lift iron off the ground and put it back down as well, without looking like a monster

[urban skiff]

That's a bit crude m8.

https://youtu.be/mFyfIXiA-60?si=GFr0wizTd0mZ1xVc

[copper fox]

What a weird statement

That’s what being a skinny weak calisthenics boy does to a dude I guess

[urban skiff]

Can we chill with the body or exercise shaming?

Its not big bro behavior to not support others

Calisthenics has it's place, so does weight lifting

We can coexist as brothers instead of enemies

[copper fox]

Why are you @ ing me I responded to the way I was @

Stop mediating incorrectly

[sand sundial]

i meant monster in a neutral way, dudes do it wanna look big

[copper fox]

Look now you hyped Wind kid up

[sand sundial]

this person might have some issues tho

[copper fox]

Good work @urban skiff you made everything worse

Unreal

[urban skiff]

Because it takes one person to stop fighting. I hope to appeal to both so we can stop the misunderstanding. 🐒

[copper fox]

Pain

[urban skiff]

Squat 92 kg now

[elfin surge]

lol u guys are nerds

[sand sundial]

nah he didn't do anything but personally going at me is a little monkaS

[copper fox]

Wind isn’t use to the sarcasm in this channel

[sand sundial]

this class is for weirdos, it is all the same

[elfin surge]

here we go

[urban skiff]

We're all stronk. Even Mud.

Let us lidt together

[copper fox]

Mans anti warrior now and lurks in the warrior channel

Mad weird

Bum behavior

[elfin surge]

Ill cut down any anti warrior

[copper fox]

👑

[urban skiff]

Duel me mate.

Also no reason, but can we duel somewhere high?

[elfin surge]

sorry i dont do drugs

[urban skiff]

101kg squat now. 817 days since i last did a backsquat. How high can i go?

[elfin surge]

you should focus on your pvp ratings kid

[urban skiff]

My rating is almost 1389

I'm so close to a lifetime record

I need to focus!

110kg squat

[craggy geyser]

Money on mud

OG

[fickle forge]

Most rogue main take of the year

[hot solstice]

who wants easiest r1 in shuffle?

[fierce elm]

no u

weird guy is a pretty weird guy

[faint girder]

#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@arena1] Pummel

Is this how a Arena1 macro for Pummel should look like?

[sharp meteor]

Pummel melee range

Kick 123 on warr doesn't get high value

[sharp meteor]

Meeee

[sterile moth]

Just pummel and focus pummel is plenty

[fickle forge]

Yes

[fickle forge]

It's still good to have

So you can off-kick casters

[sharp meteor]

I'm theory

[sterile moth]

You’re better off just cranking dps rather than looking to pull off ridic interrupts

[fickle forge]

Do both?

[hot solstice]

play starfall build boomie - dont even need to fake clone

[fickle forge]

You're not denied one by doing the other

[hot solstice]

0 casts\

[fickle forge]

Do your rotation and look for kicks

[sterile moth]

I’m guessing he’s going to struggle to do both right now if he’s asking for a macro. Could be completely wrong

[fickle forge]

Only one way to learn it

Anything that's off GCD shouldn't disrupt your rotation

[faint girder]

Thx mate, all I wanted to know, not how stupid it is hahahaha

@fickle forge also .. how should it look like if I wish to use it while im not in Arena?

[fickle forge]

Different bind

I'm not aware you can have both in the same macro

[faint girder]

"[]" something like this after "[@arena1]"?

[native mesa]

Guys im stuck 2,1 shuffle as war fury e ery fuckin round i lose cause other dps are diyng randomly what should i do? Im likr top dps eith like15 mil more every arena

Maybe more peeling

[urban skiff]

#showtooltip
/use [@arena1,exists,nodead][] pummel

If you do it like this it'll default to pummel your target if you aren't in arena

[boreal veldt]

i think keeping slaughterhouse up is more important than most fury peels in solo tbh

[elfin surge]

blame healer

[boreal veldt]

^

[sand sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-is-it-though-is-it-though-thor-really-thor-ragnarok-chris-hansen-gif-23044136

[urban skiff]

slaughterhouse is great, it makes your partymember's damage more meaningful

[wheat jay]

yes

[slow solstice]

artji

have you played ptr arms

[wheat jay]

No

I played survi for 5min

Its ass

In a very bad way

[urban skiff]

what makes it ass?

I tried playing my shaman and with even the exact same built it felt really really off

for no logical reason

[wheat jay]

Rotation is dumbed down, even more than now, its counter intuitive, fuckton of automatic dmg, like hero talent trees, both of them, actually zero burst lmao

They removed butchery from rotation by putting flanking strike and butchery on a choice node

Flanking strike is worse than in df too because it used to be burst button and resource builder, now it's spender and kinda burst button but different due to tip of the spear mechanic

Explosive shot does like 500k explosion lmao

Killshot hits for fuckall, like 600k

Raptor strike which is main spender hits for like 250-300k

Or rather was main spender, now it's a filler you dont want to press unless you absolutely have to lmao

[urban skiff]

I have no idea what this means but that doesn't sounds fun

[urban skiff]

Are rogues calisthenicsbois?

[fickle forge]

They at least like to imagine that they are

[sand sundial]

never heard of such a stereotype before tbh

rogue is more gymnastics and athletics

[north thicket]

Are you seriously downplaying calisthenics in favour of weightlifting? You should do both, it's simple as that

[wheat jay]

Fighting is #1

[sand sundial]

fighting is in fact not #1 lol

[wheat jay]

It is

Better than lifting weights

Better than lifting your own weight

Dont be a pussy and hit back

That easy

[rancid granite]

just do calisthenics with a weight vest

you get both worlds plus you get to feel like goku

[wheat jay]

DON'T WORRY ABOUT MINOR STUFF

Unless you do full contact with the main focus on knocking someone out you won't have problems with head injuries

And sparring doesn't usually end up with full contant blows to the head

And you have helmets to protect your head too

[wispy cedar]

try CBT

[sand sundial]

yeah but that don't make my upper body (and only upper body) look very big and buff and cool

its pussy to not wanting to get brain damaged

[rancid granite]

i always suspect most calisthenics doers sneak in weight training

[wheat jay]

Like I said, you won't get brain damage from sparring

[sand sundial]

of course

[rancid granite]

but there's some def legit bodies cali only

so its doable or so it seems

[violet fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/leg-day-never-skip-leg-day-skip-leg-day-dont-forget-leg-day-body-builder-gif-17804220654121513141

Bro wants to look like that

[boreal veldt]

arms is the same as it is in live, lagging behind most melee and every ranged

plays the same too

[slow solstice]

idc about pvp on ptr but yeah that shit felt horrible

[sand sundial]

spec needs one of those reworks enh sham gets every patch tbh

[north thicket]

Don't skip football day!

I really hate myself if I do that

[boreal veldt]

arms got a better ms which is nice, nerfed all it's bleeds and rage gen, fixed an animation on demolish which has been broke since beta, and reworded spiteful serenity

but we'll see, it's still early

[rancid granite]

how bout fury changes and reckless abandon

[fierce elm]

They should

[boreal veldt]

need a fury ptr player to chime in on that one, idk

[fierce elm]

if they arent dumb as hell

no reason to just do one type of training

[rancid granite]

i mean the ~ 2 people on youtube i followed just did it cause they liked it lol

good shape, liked it so 🤷

ill take some resistance bands and a pullup bar to play at home though

[fierce elm]

People also need a giga-insight into someones life

[rancid granite]

home gyms are $_$

[fierce elm]

Because most people who do calisthenics have no just done calisthenics their entire life

[urban skiff]

They'd be stupid not to

calisthenics is just gymnastics without the culture

[fierce elm]

I would not claim my gains comes from Calisthenics but its a huge thing of my training

lmao

[urban skiff]

You'll be hard pressed to find a gymnast who doesn't fuck around with weights

[rancid granite]

plunderstorm ends like feb 14th or 16th? and someone said if it's following the 8 week cycle it'll be ~feb 8th or so

[fierce elm]

Generally they have specific things tailored for their movements in terms of gymnasts

[rancid granite]

good guess imo

[urban skiff]

so much jumping with weights in your hands

[fierce elm]

Someone on the rings might prioritize core+back+arms, whilst someone on a pommel horse might focus a bit more on hips+core

[rancid granite]

just depends what you want in your goals i guess lol idk

[urban skiff]

not olympic gymnastics, the scandinavian kind where you do big group shows

the social gymnastics

[fierce elm]

Its like deciding not to press a damage cooldown because technically you dont need it

[urban skiff]

idk what it's called

[fierce elm]

it limits you a lot

Oh you mean those

yeah they also train a ton with weights lmao

Every person involved in a sport that requires muscles in various ways does weight training

[urban skiff]

we did like 40+ hours a week of combined exercise on my bording school

[fierce elm]

They just dont see it as Bench/Legs/Back w.e w.e

[urban skiff]

on top of actually passing school

[fierce elm]

But rather Exercise specifically to improve on what they wanna do

this is most prelavent when it comes to Olympic Weightlifters and Armwrestlers

Which imo, is something a lot of people training can take a ton from

[urban skiff]

girl at my gym used to do really weird exercises, until it turned out she was on a pretty high ranked handball team and it was exercises specifically for jumping long/high/switching directions fast

[fierce elm]

Want big, HUGE legs? Start Squatting like the best Snatchers in the world. Want huge forearms? Look at Armwrestling techniques. Want huge ass biceps for some reason? Start looking at Male gymnasts on the rings

Yeah its specifically for that

There is a dude that always comes around who does bounces with like 400kg on the smith machine because he is training for the hurdles

and is a world champion, but he gets clowned for the way he trains lmao

[urban skiff]

i think i saw him on instagram

[fierce elm]

So all he is working on is explosiveness from a moving position, but people dont understand that

Yeah he is always trending

Its also why the Chinese weightlifting team does some weird exercises

Because its all tailored to their lifts

They do a ton of weighted 'handstand' pushups for the Snatch and clean position

this shit

You do that in your average gym and everyone will laugh but it will explode your cleans/snatches

[rancid granite]

that looks dangerous

[fierce elm]

Yeah, but so is cleaning 200kgs lmao

[boreal veldt]

I do a lot of theatre/stage stuntwork, we always combine strength training with weights and calisthenics so we're not shaking when picking people up and control when falling onto mats

[fierce elm]

Nevermind the fact that Calisthenics is excellent at learning how to manipulate your body in various ways

Such as learning how to engage your core with your legs just dangling beneath you

Moving your upper body in a dip position without moving the rings around etc

[boreal veldt]

Yeah we use a lot of free weights

[fierce elm]

Also, you know, pullups and dips being straight up the best complimentary exercise on common gym bro lifts

Source: I am wack and look into stuff before assuming its dumb

[urban skiff]

dips are straight up the deadlift for your upper body / push

[fierce elm]

I have had friends question my grip training before they realize my forearms dwarf theirs in size and strength

Because curling a plate with a band attachment looks dumb

Unfortunately most come to the conclusion that something is stupid based on someone else saying it or because it looks weird, which leads to people not exploring as much as they should, thus limiting their knowledge and bodily function

Peeps are too scared to look dumb that they refuse to try something and its WACK

[rancid granite]

keeping the physical therapists in business

bad form, impatient etc

[fierce elm]

I also despise all the videos making fun of people at the gym because they dont know exactly what they are doing

I have a lot of opinions about this lmao

[boreal veldt]

Get em afro

[fierce elm]

We have this dude at my gym who has some sort of Mental defect. He is always alone and he wears the most comfortable chilling at home clothes I have ever seen while chugging water out of a 2L Coke bottle. All he does is Curls and Rows and I am so happy for the dude

[urban skiff]

Unfortunately society has an issue with people who are outside the norm. That means if you "train weird" you're "weird".

[wheat jay]

He could be my friend

[urban skiff]

I try to embrace people who are weird and just be genuinely curious

[wheat jay]

I'd chug monster tho

[fierce elm]

He literally does not give a fuck about anyone and just does his own thing

[urban skiff]

and hope they don't think I'm trying to be a jerk and deck me

[wheat jay]

Ye and when I said i train mostly arms you went apeshit crazy on me Afro

Fuck you

[fierce elm]

Yeah because you can train something more lmao

[wheat jay]

I do

I just trained arms the most lmao

[fierce elm]

My guy is just out here grinding back and bis

[wheat jay]

I trained shoulders a lot

At some point I was doing a lot of lower back, cuz I had problems with spine

[north thicket]

Where is that happening? The videos making fun of people who just want to do their own thing at the gym

Sweden?

[wheat jay]

So my plan to fix it was to engulf it in muscles

[fierce elm]

Youtube, Instagram

there are a ton out there

[wheat jay]

Everywhere

[fierce elm]

Like everywhere

[urban skiff]

In the US mostly lol

[wheat jay]

Everywhere

[fierce elm]

Seems to be mostly condensed to the US yeah

But its everywhere

[wheat jay]

Cuz NA people are assholes

[urban skiff]

they're so weird about people not being standard issue

[north thicket]

Yeah, US is an another human universe

I've lived in a few EU countries and have never seen that

[fierce elm]

There is this dude on instagram, he trains nothing but he has a dream of lifting a log above his head in his backyard

that is ALL he is doing

Because thats all he cares to do

[urban skiff]

there's the guy who put up a video where he absolutely demolished the deadlift world record in his back yard, but because it's not calibrated discs and stuff, and because he doesn't have a PR team to push him to everyone's front page constantly, nobody gives a fuck

[fierce elm]

Yeah

There are some absolute monsters out there

That just care about lifting weights

[urban skiff]

Tom fucking Haviland

[fierce elm]

I am so fucking sad Tom Haviland gained fame

[urban skiff]

I almost cried watching his latest video where he's zercher squatting and then clip to his kid also doing zercher squats

My own kid just started doing them with me with a broomstick

[fierce elm]

Tom Haviland, Matthew Zlat, Andrey Smaev

there are just monsters out there

that just want to lift weights

[urban skiff]

He exploded in fame around the time Alan Thrall put a video out about him and how you should just do your own thing in your back yard

[fierce elm]

Yeah

I saw him before that from Zack Telander

and it was so fucking surreal

also how I discovered armwrestling and different training ways

[urban skiff]

My brain can't figure out what's going on. Is he strong? is it some guy super dedicated to faking it?

[fierce elm]

Yeah then you see the bar bend lmao

[urban skiff]

I know it's probably just a random guy who's roided up on everything and has been doing this shit all his life

AND THEN YOU SEE THE BAR BEND

[fierce elm]

People claim he is some ex-marine or soldier who gained enough money to buy a farm and retire

and just does this all day

which seems to be the case

[urban skiff]

His training can't be cheap, just blow out a bar every time you lift and trust your life on the clips not falling off because the tips are pointing down

[wheat jay]

Peaceful life

[fierce elm]

The wild things arent even his lifts

its his athleticism

[urban skiff]

it's his cardio

yea

[fierce elm]

Just a casual Kneel to jump with 20kgs

While he is already above 300lbs lmao

Just a caasual 146kg trap bar jump

[urban skiff]

if i was "people shopping and cooking and cleaning for you"-rich I'd be training all day every day

[fierce elm]

Also his progression has been really reasonable

He benched 240kg close grip in 2016

to now benching 272kg

We have some dude in my gym who has to be like 40 or something. Absolutely jacked peeled man and all he does is come in and do pullups

60kg for like sets of 8

and he is absolutely at least 90kg BW

[urban skiff]

we have a strongman in our gym who's been there since before i started. On my intro day he was walking from end to end of the gym with a bar with 100kg over his head. Just casual walking back and forth

When I last saw him he was doing one-handed pullups in an L-sit position

with a fucking rope

and 20kg or 40k in his belt

[fierce elm]

True chads

Just wanna lift

[urban skiff]

warming up with 170kg

[fierce elm]

Does w.e they want

[urban skiff]

I think he's a graveyard gardener

idk what the english word is for that, but it's a specific job here

[fierce elm]

They always have some physical job too lmao

or something thats extremely tiring

[urban skiff]

It's always extremely physical job, or they chose a career that lets them sit down all day every day so they're in absolutely full control of their gym gains

A danish strongman winner a few years ago said he chose a career in bio chemistry of sorts because he could sit down all day and make sure all his energy was spent exactly how he wanted at the gym

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Its like Mitchell hooper being a Physical Therapist for old people

[rancid granite]

insane

[urban skiff]

Meanwhile I'm stuck in the middle with an office job where I also go to inspect sites and climb into dirt holes and occasionally help the welders so they can save a trip or two

[fierce elm]

Swedens 2nd strongest man is a fucking plumber lmao

[urban skiff]

I should just take the leap and go into IT, sit down all day every day

[fierce elm]

And he also has a ton of WRs in Grip strength

[north thicket]

Op gem... a whooping 1%

[hot solstice]

at least it does something. dont kick and u make precog useless

[hot solstice]

has anyone tried move speed gem? is it worth?

[rancid granite]

i didn't really notice anything but i might grab it again anyway

there's a couple on murlok who run it :b

next patch fury gets a lil extra ms in talents too so.. yay ms stacking

[boreal veldt]

in there rare times you're not in a root/snare

it's nice

[sharp meteor]

i play dat in bgs feels nice

zoomins

warr only melee class entirely reliant on uptime so

movement speed op

[lucid walrus]

groundskeeper or caretaker probably

[stark agate]

Wow

I come back to this game, doing a good job not getting mad at vieo games in general the past month. I go against and Arcane Mage and I suddenly don't want to play again.

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-22891134

[green wharf]

genuinely thinking about getting wretcking throw talent

to try and kill the damn dic priests and monks

witht heir shields

[green wharf]

wait till you go against a frost one

[urban skiff]

reroll enh

you get like 4+ levels per timewalk right now after stacking up the big buff

[stark agate]

Make another warrior?

I gotcha

[urban skiff]

mages and evokers are among some of my favorite enemies

[green wharf]

caue shaman enh is ranged while burst

[urban skiff]

nah

[green wharf]

but it is rpetty funny to melt then miles away

[urban skiff]

it helps but just accidentally tabtarget killing them in a couple of globals because the real target did something like shadowmelt to make me drop target is just so funny

[green wharf]

warrior is lowkey my most unlucky class

was doing fine with arms, got 1740, now im 1560

cause dumb mmv value

win 2, gain nothing, lose 1 lose 17mmr

[green wharf]

Dogs, did you do something in this isle

like, i think about getting the ring on an alt

and it fills me with the same dread when i need to go to the maw or koltia or whatever the fuck that is called

[fierce elm]

Are you gonna do any content where the ring is good?

[green wharf]

no, and that is why i didnt do it

its a big nothing sandwich of a isle

well, got to 1600 but to 1500 and fucks again, time to make some garlic bread, and enough being bad in wow

[lavish quest]

Damn man, you hit 1600? Dats crazy

[green wharf]

i mean, on blitz, on this spec, i was close to 1800, but got a losing streak so i got fucked

i was trying to get the classic plate server, the replicas

cuz i already got elite on shuffle

but in blitz im a wet paper

[cinder sluice]

Guys I need your help. How do you keep your sanity after consecutive caster lobbies?,

[green wharf]

i dunno, i tried to keep mine by playing my warlock

[fierce elm]

By realizing it doesnt matter

and that ratings are just pixels

that provide no worth in your life

[green wharf]

so, i tried destro, cause they said chaos bolt was buffed

he was there 1600, pretty clean, lobby full of people 2200+

two 2700 on the enemy team, one on mine

how is this even possible

[cinder sluice]

Well I just want to enjoy the game , rating comes and goes

[green wharf]

hard to enjoy being stomped by 2700 people

fucking healer never died

[fierce elm]

Its all about mentality that rating doesnt matter

[green wharf]

were you playing arms or fury

arms i think is more miserable to casters

[exotic forge]

This game don't matter

Just play smf and mog the new fist weapons and go ham

[wheat jay]

Real

[idle falcon]

SO CLOSE

[green wharf]

find the error

[idle falcon]

did u swap mine and lumber mill

[green wharf]

no

[idle falcon]

farm and gorrilla

[green wharf]

hint: there is one guy fucking the game

[idle falcon]

the evoker?

he's just a chill guy

[green wharf]

lost LM in the start, went to enemy graveward and afk

2200mmv game btw

[idle falcon]

i mean

he was CHILLING

in the enemy graveyard

[green wharf]

he prob malded pretty hard then decided to chill there

to calm down

[wheat jay]

youre in base?

[green wharf]

as a ghost yea, i was dead in the pic

it is an error by itself

but our healer was chilling in the enemy base

[exotic forge]

Fuckem

[lavish quest]

Queuing blitz

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Anyone else defaulting to maxroll.gg over wowhead or mmo-champion for reading patch notes?

https://maxroll.gg/wow/news/the-war-within-11-1-development-notes

they did a really good job with this page

separating into classes and then general+spec specific really helps readability

[elfin surge]

the fuck is maxroll.gg

[urban skiff]

it was a diablo build site that expanded

I found out they branched into wow by accident and i'm kind of digging it right now

[elfin surge]

i guess anything to get off wowhead

[urban skiff]

look at this, table of contents, overview

[elfin surge]

most dogshit site ever

my phone breaks whenever i load wowhead with how many video ads start auto playing

[urban skiff]

ad-free with adblocker currently

idk about phone version

goodbye mages lol

and hello to evokers getting a free pvp talent point

[lavish quest]

My class matters

Not PvP but still

[urban skiff]

neither is MUD but we still keep him around

[rancid granite]

there's adblockers for phone too you know

small brain warrior doesnt know about adblockers

[urban skiff]

I think if you've over 25 you're from a time when ads on phones were completely untouchable by adblockers or other aps

[elfin surge]

no1 cares

[rancid granite]

ok boomer

[urban skiff]

tbh this is huge

just bind that relocate to anything

@fierce elm aww yir

[wheat jay]

you cant rly bind it to anything

unless you have mouse on enemy 24/7

you can't have @target on ground targetet abilities

[urban skiff]

I have an @player version of relocate on a sundering bind

When I'm sundering someone, I want that totem on them too 99% of the time

Figured I'd save mental load and just bind them together to save time

I've got a modifier that removes the relocate for the bind if I really really want to not move totems

[wheat jay]

that moves it to you then

[urban skiff]

yes

Why would I want surging totem anywhere else

[rapid shore]

@urban skiff just got my 9800x3d installed. damn bro. cpu upgrade from 3950x. fps went font 100 to 400 xD

[urban skiff]

damn dog

if the WW3 kicks off you're going to be able to trade that for a medium-size car or tickets out of your country

[wheat jay]

to move it closer to enemy

youre not always on target

[sour crag]

How do I counter Mistweaver Monks?

[urban skiff]

I'm enhancement

yes i am

[wheat jay]

smh

[urban skiff]

and if I'm in ascendance i've got plenty of mental resources to keep mashing that stormstrike while i move the mouse to them and relocate the totem manually

I don't see a situation where moving a dps totem requires the level of precision equivalent to "mouse on enemy 24/7"

so yeah, I'm gonna keep moving that totem to me, if not on sundering then when I press doomwinds

[sterile moth]

Question, I’ve been doing it out of habit but wondering if it’s a leak in my gameplay….does sweeping strikes get enough value during bladestorm to pop it before?

[urban skiff]

Unhinged mortal strikes don't get spread with sweeping strikes

Idk if the individual hits can be spread but i suspect not

[sterile moth]

Ah wow so no value

Thank you

[elfin surge]

It'll give double the demolish stacks

[urban skiff]

How?

[elfin surge]

sweeping unhinge is coded poorly

itll give double stacks and spread sharpen blade

but wont do damage to a second target

i assume they just turned the value to 0

[sharp meteor]

missing her (sweeping proccing mortal combo on main target)

also has anybody tried a more mastery/vers heavy colo arms yet or everybody still 30% haste slayer

[elfin surge]

at least thats how it's been (not sure if it was fixed yet)

[zenith edge]

Sorry i reckon this has been asked a thousand times, but, personal preference aside, which spec is better for pvp?

[elfin surge]

Usually arms is better but rn fury is the meta

[zenith edge]

Thank you!

[sharp meteor]

I wonder how little haste i could get away with playing as prot.

[sharp meteor]

Fury.

[rancid granite]

was fury ever the meta before for an expac

[sharp meteor]

second half of sl

second half of df

early df actually too

[rancid granite]

dang so relatively new

interesting

[sharp meteor]

i mean it has been good in the past its just usually its arms

[rancid granite]

yeah

change is nice though ill have to keep enjoying it while it lasts

plus the legion artifact for fury rocks

[sterile moth]

I ran with it to mid 2100s. Feels best with balanced haste and mastery but I’m far from a world beater.

Sorry replied to the wrong thread somehow. Talking about colossus mastery vers build

[sour crag]

God I hate the feeling when queuing for arena like it's a casino: "Do I try my luck for more ratings tonight, or do I cash out now instead of risking the gains I've made?"

LETS GO GAMB- AW DANGIT -64 Ratings

[rancid granite]

Q next them

[sour crag]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-wreck-gif-12986085083782148824

[green anchor]

You're trying your luck literally every time you Q up

[sterile moth]

@sour crag it’s rough. I have an alt that I play on “guilt free” so I can queue games without my stupid brain thinking I’m risking something. In reality I just need games and reps

[green anchor]

yeah it's about simply keep on Qing

[wheat jay]

Magic of pvp haha

Will people play well or troll

You never know

You somewhat do in 3s and 2s cuz of premade group

But still, somewhat xD

[urban skiff]

that's what I did, but then i fell in love with enh shaman

enough that I'm now making a 2nd alt just so I can play somethinng wihtout caring about ratings

I'm gonna be the bigdam of 1400 rating

[rancid granite]

they make non-rated and solo q blitz for when you dont care about rating

i felt that was supposed to be my rogue but my rogue ended up being higher rating than my warrior main

[sterile moth]

lol yea outlaw looks silly

It’s never as easy as it looks though

[rancid granite]

kinda

rogue easier to get into than i thought but the skill cap is just real high

[frank knoll]

Got damn
Played some Thane fury
Hit a 1.7 mil lightning strike
Avg was like 6-900k

Also the lighting strike proc the call observer thing from warlock fyi

[fickle forge]

Nobody tell him

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-nervous-gulp-cat-gulp-strange-cat-gif-26244540

[frank knoll]

Rogues all think they’re Mensa members because they can watch DRs and kill someone in a kidney

[fickle forge]

That's the past

Now they AoE Garrote and Rupture and press Crimson

1M dps

[frank knoll]

I also don’t understand why people say Sub takes a PhD to successfully play

[rancid granite]

im lost was i not wrong about high skill cap

[wheat jay]

Because it used to

Sub was just a skill check comp

[frank knoll]

Warrior and players lift in their spare time and better themselves
Rogue/mage players post on reddit about how climate change is real and are skinny fat

[dense herald]

why is this set so bad

???

[sharp meteor]

I like it. 😁

Curious as to what the Slayer one will look like.

[dense herald]

it looks like delve gear mixed together with maldraxxus gear

[dense herald]

wdym