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Otherwise I’m always disarmed and stunned
I swear the draw the other guy died like a second or two before I did and still called it a draw
Was big lame
I’ll never forget a game I went 3-3 when I was mid swing about to kill a mage and my healer died
Just a memorable pain
Few weeks ago
My motivation to wow super low. My round count is still rather low
164 round apparently
Afro is literally like 3 lobbies away from 2.4k
Didn't know you could go from 1800 to 2400 in 3 lobbies
Don't know man, I got 2.3k mmr on my fresh enh in 3 lobbies
Actually no, 2 lobbies
Just do it for the vine
its literally like 3 lobbies or something
Whats the max you can get again?
96 for a 6-0?
Think 72
yeah then we are like 4 lobbies away
For blitz I should say
cant believe they didnt just make blitz rating gain the same cap as Solo shuffle tbh
Blitz probably fine for those who want to queue it all day eri day like MUD
how do i tab in once and instantly talking about me
Why do you only lurk
"Tab in once"
show hairline
show arms
show legs
Show pp
Addicted to green monster and cigs
Im bald as fk too bro it’s fine
Hell yea
You think he can afford a dodge ram?
What does MUD even do for a job anyways?
I have been working on this for a year and we have moved closer and closer to scalp
lost all the hair like one punch man from training too hard
Every strong as fuck jacked huge dude I have seen either has long and luscious locks or bald as fuck
There is no middle ground
you cant have some random ass side-part and be fucking jacked and huge generally
It comes with the lifts
im a lumberjack
We queuing lumberjack cleave?
If you’re bald and don’t bench over 225lbs tho… you’re truly a deformity
the only dude allowed to have a normal hair cut is deathgripderek
but thats only because of his sick fucking stache
MUD going to the gym in running shorts and a flannel top
Yea he’s allowed whatever he wants tbh
He is also 24 so yeah lmao
this dude lifting so he looks good in his 70s porn videos
The sick stache cancels out any need for bald or luscious locks
I remember when he cut his hair people went nuts
Doesn’t matter
Too strong can do anything
Also if his hair genes can survive the amounts he is pumping into his body
he deserves his hair
Im just waiting for John haack to give up on his hairline eventually
I stood next to him once at the ghost clash he’s way bigger than he looks online
Oh yeah my guy is fucking huge
he was competing so it was also peak cycle
You always fall into some sort of weird perspective when it comes to videos
so when you guys gonna go to a meetup and watch magic mike on the big screen
Like seeing Mitchell just move around in front of a camera
and talk about their physique
Yeah he is tall, but he doesnt look huge
then he stands next to doucette or something who isnt a small guy
lol
venruki getting 500 viewers now is actually so sad
They’re all watching onlyfangs just give it another month
Lmfao this pic is hilarious actually
Meanwhile Thor is just wide
Is that more than usual, or less?
1/3rd his views
Hmm...
Even funnier is Brian shaw mogging other Strongmen
Not human
TWW flopped?
Nah, just people did their thing and done till next patch
DEAD EXPANSION
This siren isle patch thing is just meaningless quick content for power
highest you can get is 23 per round won iirc
tww flopped cos arms is bad need necro banner more than ev to save the game
Takes like an hr or so the first time. Then like like 30 mins a week the following weeks
All for a strong ring that you can use on all... the content you're not doing anyways?
I did see someone get 24 one time but at this point I think that's more likely a rounding error than actual 24
138 would seem wild as gain
Lately I've been getting like 30 rating for 4-2s even when the mmr is above my CR a lil when it used to be 40s
Strange but w/e
based
so same thing as every patch?
pvp will get more popular end of season
pve when next season starts
always been like this
now, where is a new good mmo to kill blizzard's last game?
O_O
well, ashes of scamnation wont do it
There’s no mmo coming lol
riot mmo is like 10 years away
That’ll hurt wow
gotta hope for something in the meantime lol
So nothing
except wow itself
because the MMO business is bad
dude, i saw some alpha 2 stuff
and my god
Years to develop, not a lot of ways to earn
that ain't it xD
nice desert
anyway
new games that will come out will probably be co-op games
Because the MMO business is BAD
Unless they drop it
Why spend years developing an MMO that won't beat WoW
When you can make annual games like CoD or Assassin's Creed
I think it's both. It would account for why i keep calculating my rating wrong.
Rivals killing Overwatch 2, somehow ..
poe2 shitting on diablo 4
I mean PoE was gonna shit on D4 regardless
lmao
Everyone has been waiting for PoE 2
Marvels is gonna die down when the hype ends
stop with your ow2 cope O_O
Overwatch 2 dropped ded while out shopping. Rivals coming along to teabag ow2 while stealing the groceries
its a dog game
i know you like doomfist
its cute
but ow2 is dogshit and blizz doesnt make it better
Doomfist was great before they broke him and made him tank.
lmao
Lost Ark is good if you aren't trying to beat the game. As a few hours of dumb fun it's as good as any other diablo-like
lost ark isnt even similar to diablo in any way except for isometric view
And gunlance. Don't forget the best weapon ever made.
fists
It's literally d4 with slightly more mmo components..
???
have you even played the game xD
its raid based mmo
how is that in any way similar to hack and slash like diablo or poe
only similarity is isometric view lol
Yes. Its an action rpg with isometric view, gather gear from repeating content. It's hack and slash with occasionally a big boss. Mmo components with open world events
Artji cannot not speedrun a game
He has to dry out the content within a week
I guess the only difference is they replaced covering the floor in item names and meaningless gold drops with a p2w store
bruh
that is the dumbest comparison ive ever seen
i guess borderlands is the same as isaac, you just get your upgrades and progress through levels
Wow that's toxic. And that's coming from someone who takes a week off to max out characters before going to sleep first night every release..
It's not about comparisons man
Yes, but they make it faster and faster for players and then players wonder why it doesn't last kek
You can't call other games bad when you play trash for your main game
its just a seasonal game
relax doomfist main
speaking of other games
The gameplay loop is the same, the methods of controls are the same. Lost Ark has slightly fewer hordes to wipe out, but they only put that into d4 when people complained it wasn't enough like d3.
Seasonal, we getting close to one month a quarter lul
Rivals is fun
gameplay loop in lost ark is doing 4-8 players raids
Remind me again what you do at max level in d4
gameplay loop in diablo is speedrunning solo maps
or paragons or whatever it is called
Go to poe2
Yeah, cause Doomfist is actually fun and takes some skill lmao
my guy, your game is dog
Even d3 had ladder for group content that matters infinitely more than class ladder.
Raise your hand if you're a junkrat and gunlance main.
and marvel rivals has thiccer characters
Raise your hand if you have never touched these games
So now he just needs to transition to black panther
Marvels also has "aim to the right of your target to hit your target". Excellent loop
not ironfist?
Wanna make a bet bro?
my guy, every good game you ever played, you played with me
Nah, black panther more comparable
The 3v3 duels format was interesting.
Wanna
make
a
bet
I wouldn't mind that as a brawl
Really enjoyed it honestly
Within 3 months Rival numbers are going to die out
he's gonna bet his brand new Audi!
possibly
Black panther is almost like you made genji and doomfist have a kid, then gave that kid some crack
same as ow2 got obliterated by time
It's Audi for share
It's literally doing fine
same as helldivers got obliterated by sony
and its a good game, still doing fine
but sony did shit on it really hard
I should call her
Ow2 got obliterated by greed, not time.
We played ow religiously but as soon as ow2 hit we just.. didn't bother. It just didn't feel and sound right
And suddenly not getting cosmetics by playing was just a final nail.
both
you dont get cosmetics in poe either
OW2 was just an excuse to put in a grossly expensive store in
BUT you get f2p game
Fuck i miss helldivers. Just checked and last i played was in august! It feels like we only dropped in yesterday to kill some varmint
While taking out the ability to actually earn skins
Rivals comes out, and suddenly you can earn a few skins for free in OW2 
Wonder why...
Kinda same. There are aliens now. I haven't picked it back up but I should
Make sure you do a walk around when you receive it, and remember you probably have a fucking huge warranty you want to make sure you get the most out of
Taking pictures of it immediately
We are picking up at the car place
and they are doing a walkthrough with us
dude, free diablo 4 after poe2 launch xD
So everything gets noted in their system and by us
We also have new car warranty for a long time
so they are legally required to fix any faults during that time period
Isn't that just like limited time tho?
So after back to fuck you d4
Not to mention hear its worse anyways so why even try it
So yeah, GF and me are doing full walkthrough with the guy who is selling it to us and then we can drive home
cant wait to floor it on the highway tbh
Like it only has 150 horse powers, but due to Audi engine and being so small it feels so fucking fast and nimble
yep
Now tbf, Helldivers took a hit from that playstation thing
It's still doing hot today
ye
it is doing well
i can play some if you want lol
your call
they added new faction
its kinda fun
but i prefer bots ngl
Well to paraphrase a video.
Blizzards taking it in all holes this holiday season from Chinese ingenuity

They're going to show you the car inside the exhibit if they aren't swamped with orders going out the door. It will make you feel like a big important man that they let you drive around inside and drive it out the door yourself.
It's also because showroom light doesn't show imperfections as well as sunlight. Make sure to pick it up while the sun is out so you can walk around it in daylight before leaving the lot.
I'm sure they're careful and thorough, but the stuff i was asked to hide or make cosmetically proof temporarily while i was a mechanic makes me a bit cynical now
Yeah I get it
we are doing a fulll walkthrough
and yeah we have warranty for a while
so worst case they have to fix it
and within that also stipulates that they are required to let us use one of their cars until the problem is fixed lmao
Hilarious video :)
I made them replace my radiator in my used rav4 the day before the used car warranty expired.
It helped that i commented on the cooling levels on the aircon before purchase (they serviced it for free because i did that )
Also helped a ton that my dad buys cars from them all the fucking time and i made sure to namedrop. Also made sure we got the chief of sales to handle that order instead of the grunt.
i dunno, you said taking it in all holes video O_O
Also mght bring buddy along
because he might give us a ride to the dealership
so we got three eyes on it
i meaaaaaaaaan
you gotta specify in the future man
smh
which one of you is wearing an eyepatch
afro is like dr strange
GF and I have glasses so we have one eye basically
can have him play the role of super annoying friend who is critical of everything
lol
fucking yikes, you're a cyborg bro?
this is afro when he unlocked the power of staring people in their eyes
its wack
3rd eye to stare harder
GF is so fucking WACK wanting to drive it first though
We got like a 50km way home
she is driving half and I am driving half lmao
Then roadtrip the week after
@wheat jay See this is why I play this game man
Dude be nasty. Sell your half of the trip, see what you can get for it. Footrubs, back massage, picnic out of the back of the car
lmao she wasnt falling for it
you glitched through a wall
You aren't selling it romantically enough or she's til certain she already has the full ride secured
You don't understand the tech bro
the tech is that you abuse bugs
EZ
wanna play helldivers or you gonna send more cringewatch clips?
I think she is also worried since this is my first car
and I feel like I went conservative
youre on a roof
how
it looks so stupid
Brother doesn't understand the tech
You can just admit it's too big brain for you lil' bro
hunter main smh
yeah but grubby is up at 1.2k
lfg WC3 streamers

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fam, you glitch through textures
if i was against you id report you for cheating
but i guess ow2 is so dogshit this is a norm there
See you don't understand the tech bro
You don't even see what's happening
you go through textures
and suddenly hit someone
the tech is game not working properly
thats your tech
your tech is lack of proper game tech
Why do you keep repeating yourself when I am telling you that isn't what's happening
Lmao
you havent explained the tech
so what am i supposed to listen to?
@lavish quest watch those videos and tell me if you can see the tech
the skill
the textures hes breaking through 
just found out/realized die by the sword does not in fact parry touch of death lol
at least I think it doesnt I swear i was lookin at the dude
The first one I think he just slides off the wall
Second is definitely cursed
Touch goes through everything
yeah dang
thats kinda wild i cannot counter play that
is it not a physical melee attack or am I wrong
The counter play is literally don't let them touch you homie
lol
just strange a physical melee attack cannot be parried.. trying to think what other MELEE PHYSICAL ability I cannot parry
hmmmmm
going to submit a bug report, this is surely an overlooked situation that must be remedied
can one parry a finger 🤔
have u tried not being 8% hp LMAO
DID SOMEONE SAY STORMSTRIKE???
i mean isnt that some nature physical dam shit
lol
hell yeah i can parry a finger btw
There are some out there
maybe if they made a Finger Chop ability
or disarm disfinger
However, touch of death is coded as a spell iirc
thats the Mystical Orient for you
Well ashcually it makes sense 🤓
- @wheat jay
lolol
if it ignores armor it's not physical!
it's just magic mojo
well
it broke my immersion big time
making it my new life goal to get this changed
cant be soothed anymore
it does make sense 👍
Overpower
but they should have renamed the ability too xD
XD
duel me, i'll break something other than your immersion
Completely unrelated but can we fight on a tower?
lolwtf
Why do you triple down?
Nah, it sucks. It's a lil better with 6v6 back but still
fun game to play with frans
nothing like an fps game to make me feel old as hell though
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let's check shaman
lmao shortest bit is shaman
bwhaha
finally skillcapped caught up "enhancement shaman is one of the best melee in the world within"
fuuuuuck the secret is out
"kill totems"
@fickle forge @fierce elm
lmao
time to pack up, it's over for enh
Stop using skillcapped and you'll go up in mmr.
skillcapped the reason i keep going from 1900->2100->1900 over and over?
i use it to know what tryhards in my bracket are going to change up whenever a new video comes up
there's quality info in their videos / this video
watch for that monks floaty AoE burst, and disarm doing nothing to them TIL
the cool thing is to hate the thing that makes the hobby accessible to new players
I'll never understand this mentality
kennie is a vulpera prot warr main he's definitely unique and edgy don't mind him
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How can you disarm unarmed attacks
Are you chopping their hands off
Ignore that Paladins can throw hammers at you when disarmed
they use claws and weapons too
those are pocket hammers
magic pocket hammers
Claws are hands duuh
well that helps the finger of death argument too i guess
also does Monk have a single attack that utilizes their weapon still
I know Jab had a glyph or something
way back
where it used your staff
that sounds neat
i miss the old monk that used weapons
But yeah, they never had an attack that utilized weapon in coding
But it had animations
looked so wonky when you would jab into kick immediately
in what bracket?
:)))
No, 2400 solo + arena I think
Was a joke since the number of data points is not representative
still pretty cool that some good player go with unpopular races
am I supposed to do 2h or dw frost?
if you want to see players who have objectively lost their minds when choosing race, go check dks in bgb on murlokio

Oo What's up with DK and Kul Tirans?
wouldn't you like to know
I think us KT mains just don'tr give a fuck
they do probably
Grip -> knock
oho that's the combo
KT dk is the best race for bgb by far
haymaker is fucking hilarious
what would you recommend for horde warr apart from hm tauren
vers good, hot heal good, haymaker s+++ tier in bgs
kt dk is just unplayable for me because of the buggy sounds
also cold and nature resist
in arena its probs like human/orc/gnome for unh it doesnt matter unh sucks
Syeg is orc I know 🙂
they're like survivability powerhouses
did someone manage to get the best of zandalari
the what now
5% move speed op
it's spelled 'de what now'
:)))
can you pull of regenerating in arena
maybe when chilling in a nova people may forget about you
I have a thousand times already before they made it actually work
Bubble regeneration
everybody went silent thinking about the demoralizing effect of few regenerating ticks
lmao what even is this
why do i have a white bs hammer that sells for 13k?
done levelling my dk, this is what i got to show for it
@fickle forge so this guy is apparently doing pretty will in bgb
He's also doing something really weird, which is the exact same thing as what I'm doing
full stacking haste with crafted haste/vers in every single slot possible, haste only in engineering crafted slots
slayer or thane in 2s?
slayer in general, thane vs heavy melee. This advice goes for 3s, i imagine you'd only ever want slayer in 2s?
But i'm not expert
I think you can get away with anything in blitz tbh
i mean, sure?
but he's ahead of everybody else doing something completely differnet
Whether the best blitz player deserves 2k or 3k or 5k rating doesn't matter, you don't get ahead and stay ahead if you aren't doing something better than the rest, right?
what blitz is? xd
oh
I just think that i've been randomly vanishing entire groups of players in bgb but i can't figure out what I'm doing right when it happens
And I think he might be doing that too, but intentionally
i do be running the dumbest builds in bgb and still win
Maybe the dumbest build isn't all that dumb though in blitz
Maybe being dumb is actually the smartest thing you can be doing??
is it the secret tech that does big oneshots after bladestorm sweeping strikes?
because that does sound fun as fuck but also it sounds like a lot of work when i could be casting STORMSTRIKE
the oneshot is an afterthought, with fervor in 2 target your cleave averages 750k
Wait people still play warrior in 2025?
bro check out my warrior
THought everyone finally moved onto rogue/feral
Fdk should get citrine right?
Its blitz, you 100% can
I get that conceptually
but in reality, whomever is better + luckier will be ahead always
LuCkiEr
If you join a race of fat out of shape old guys as a fat out of shape old guy and you win, you're still the best in that race.
and whatever you did to win that race was objectively best. It doesn't mean it's what will be the best if you suddenly applied the same lessons to young fit men running against young fit men
So like, my goal is to play bgb and have some fun. I see one lone guy out of hundreds do the same thing as I do, be slightly better than literally everybody else on that ladder. Seems to me it might be my fat guy race
now i'm just curious why that build seems to be working when blizzard stealth nerfed the shit out of it
maybe the latest patch undid it and nobody noticed?
Would certainly explain why I'm randomly deleting people like in the old days
Because its blitz, and its wow, you can delete people with weak builds and specs
Its not high rated 2s or 3s
Its not top of the ladder
Its bg blitz with pure chaos and near zero coordination where you can catch people without defensives
Or without trinket
I never play there and I never go into 2s or 3s voluntarily. From my point of view my experience is radically different despite doing the same thing as always
it doesn't make sense to me that people in bgb and shuffle at 1900 are more squishy than random bg players
and also that my enh and warrior play at same level, but the damage profiles are so radically different
Everyone is full conq
Dmg profile of enh and warr are VERY different, yes
Same with every spec in the game
My enh isn't even in full conq. I use a blue on-use trinket and most of my gear is bloody tokens level
So?
Dunno, just something is off and I think my build is secret tech
Like, dude i feel like im explaining the most basic shit to someone
I just can't articulate why because my dumb ass can't figure out how to play it optimally
If your build was some secret tech everyone on the ladder would play it
Cuz thats what ladder does
They play most op and broken builds
top most player on the ladder is playing it, I assume everyone else don't bother because they believe the same as you?
Possibly, im not an enh player
I mean you're sort of explaining something I didn't ask to be explained, probably because you're not really getting what I*m saying? That's my fault for not explaining my point of view well enough
Bruh
If youre playing some secret tech build theres only one way to prove its good
Get rating
Random BGs have a ton of different consumables you can use and other ways to cheese that can’t be used in rated
For example
I was fighting an MM hunter the other day, pumped like 25 mil damage into him couldn’t figure out why it took so long to kill him, the I checked details and in addition to his class abilities he used a potion of defiance which is like a 30-40% DR and he had this electric shock thing that knocked me back like 35 yards
I think he used Health pots too
man, did everyone quit to wait for season 2
cant form a group to make a world boss

parse, what are u a nerd
Hi guys, Can you point me in the direction for a guide on how to play fury... Need a complete beginner guide.. Please help I suck
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it is good!
Some say it is out of date
im telling you it is not
if you read it or any guide
same content with slightly different format
you can even use icyveins
same author
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Bro just linked this man a PvE guide
I didn't write Wowhead
is ppl playing mountain thane over slayer now in 3s?
why better
Even then, it pumps pretty hard
Slayer is definitely easier to use though
Lightning strikes slap harder than the slayer thing
thats the only right mode to play tbh
And your main damage button gets +45% dmg
I agree with blizzard then
tbh i thought this was #fury
but there is no way he says something like that and i dont link him thay
Wdym
how to play fury need a complete beginner guide
i read that
i assume they have 0 clue how the class functions
It'd still be wrong then
You're gonna make man gear and talent into PvE
And then wonder why every other warrior is running Storm Bolt when he isn't
Icy Veins

but do u think as thundercleave , thane build should be the best?
or its w/e if i play slayer or thane
so then play that
So, i went sleep thinking about they gave dragon charge to all specs
and i lowkey dream they gave thunderstruck to all warriors as well
can you imagine arms and fury with that root
They wouldn't make it 1 week in with that not getting nerfed
but would be fun for a week
today im happy cause i killed a mofo on my server in wpvp, who always go out with potions, exploits and often in group to kill noobs in wq
It feels good to be the avenger
i'm a big boy now
hero 🫡
I trade people salt and bleach, it is what it is
"noooo you can't use the stormstrike build with surging totem noooooo"
What even is this damage breakdown
just all alts around the world?
8 alts yeah
Busted
Doing what?
Imagine what happens when you add 50% more windfury damage for no reason!
childs play
Gogo 2h enh
Got a new trimmer yday for hair and it had a nose attachment
holy fuck did it ticklr
I started crying lmao
I usually just pull then out
GF already tortures me with plucking my eyebrows
I aint torturing myself with plucking nose hairs
Also I swear, giving someone with ADHD preliminary delivery dates is torture
It's either torture or i completely forget the second after i click order and finish storing the receipts.
its all torture
Boardbag on Wednesday, car on thursday
and its all MAYBES
Still waiting for my 9800x3d
I didn't order it, but i'm still waiting!
Reall pvp talk, cause it was a thing that was raised somewhere else and i though it would be worthy discussing
do you guys think we have way too many CCs
and that is the reason why healers are so immortal
Yes
Its been debated all of DF
there are tfs i can barely walk with so many stuns, micro stuns, roots, knockbacks
and the diminish in the following stuns seems to not work in some cases
mine coming next week.
fuck i'm envious
you're gonna have so much FPS in wow
:D
I think CC is too easy to use. I don't mind the amount, but all of it being free cast no resources or procs or cooldowns, maybe a few have a short cast time but the tradeoff is they get to be spammed.
As long as CC is easy to use, it will be used a lot
Passive damage everywhere, nothing being required to hit to deal damage or do cc
almost every micro cc being insta casts
Ranged not having to worry about being kicked or casting anymore
Melee being stuck in w.e land sitting random shit
cc under 1 global shouldn't interrupt spellcasts, just delay until the effect ends
some melee having too much sticking power
easy fix to one problem at least
What caster even truly casts their damage rotation right now
Outside of likd, idk, frost mage, destro lock?
But even then you have 49 passive things hitting you randomly
Small number of ranged specs have incredible kite ability, small number of melee specs have incredible sticking power.
Everyone else watching these specs have all the fun. Everyone else enters the arms race with fewer and worse tools and have to pray they don't meet someone with bigger shinier toys
Its just w e i r d
i wanna say spriest, devoker too
spriest barely casts
I wouldnt count devoker as casting honestly lmao
Its just strange
true, they should have just gone full hunter on them instead of what they ended up doing
Cast while moving, uninterruptible damage, but no absurd cc / slow immunity
Then account for the random passives that just arent seen yet do 20-40% of someones damage lmao
Affli
Demo
Destro
Deva
SP
Frost
Arcane
Man I want to love arcane so much, it looks soooo good when I fight them
deva absolutely does not cast and I will die on this hill
I just can't figure out what i'm supposed to do as a mage
Arcane I havent seen
seems all ranged have enough ability to kite, with the exception of warlock
Arcane has a pretty high skill floor
It's literally perma channeling bro
nah, that's hyperbole.
it also buggs me we need to care about focus, energy, rage, but casters dont seem to care about mana
Remember when shaman had to spend a cooldown to cast while moving
I remember
Now they just made it a spec
They do that now
devoker disintegrate should be replaced with autoattack / autoshot tbh
Ah I see what you mean
Then we look over at the melee specs
there's still a talent for it!
some have absurd uptime, some have neither
some have absurd defensives while some have jack shit
ele definitely doesn't
i remember when warlocks got a talent to cast while walking
Let's be real man
Its just weird as fuck
now they get fucked
The only melee who lacks uptime is warrior
AND ENH
ENH HAVE NO UPTIME AT ALL
So melees that have low sticking time get punished by the giga kiting specs
the melees that have huge uptime can punish casting specs
Enh is okay on uptime because they have a bunch of ranged shit
So yeah, its in a pretty miserable spec
especially once you start accounting for the damage that people can put out
That's your choice man
Lmao
If you casted your spenders like other enh sham you'd be doing ranged dam
I remember when cheap-cheap-cheap was barely enough to kill
This is literally a good thing though
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now cheap with defensives up doesnt mean you are safe whatsoever lmao
windstrike is ranged though
skillcapped says enh is the best melee in the game
Yes, but that means that casting specs get cucked
Can we get some balance
They aren't all cucked man
And you know this
Some take massive D like SP
And others are untouchable regardless
Like arcane
Arcane mage I havent seen once
four hours to quee and only two games my nibbas, im done
so cant comment on thst
at least i won then
Frost mage has insane kitability though
it wasnt arcane super op in middle season
like even the high uptime melee specs have a hard time keeping up sometimes
spend the time better, like telling me how to spec and gear for 2h frost
Your salvation is classic WoW if this is what you want dude
make melee have to try to get uptime but also not get omegacucked
My salvation is anything pre-DF lmao
if casters had to stand still, their huge mobility kit wouldn't be as punishing
verst>haste>mast
no 13% crit?
Classic WoW
The game is catered to M+ and raiding now bro
Classic is vanilla broski
crit if you are DW
We ain't going back to rock paper scissor class designs
Gotta say classic expansion
I mean, right now we just have x specs dominating because they got more shiny toys than the rest lmao
We've ALWAYS had that be the case man
Also Kargish accepting this after salting all over the world whenever we play
YEAH BUT IT WAS LESS AIDS WASNT IT
I DONT REMEMBER QUEUEING SL AND SITTING RANDOM ASS SHIT CONSTANTLY
Yeah naa
This shit was never this
Destro was literally playing Shadowlands while everybody else was playing BFA
Unbreakable root on Conflag
There wasnt a world where every spec had demo-levels of micro-CC
dh somehow stayed the same since SL
And now everyone has that
Shadowfury
Yeah now make that for every spec outside warrior lmao
And Chaos Bolt had to be casted twice and then you won the game
and enhance/ret I guess
Meanwhile, every other spec made it to 80% dampening before something died
fmage
greater pyro
Gpie spam yeah
one poly and you had 4 going on you
Worst time to be alive
But yeah, the micro-cc paired with the unbelievable amount of bullshit, the queues, its not looking bright
Gpie spam was hilarious lmao
You either sat the fire mage and didn't get pied, but would die to CB
Or vice versa
is it still micro cc if it ccs you for macro amount of time?
we need wow 2
Id rather take that than what we have right now dont @ me
I'd rather take Shadowlands
But we ain't getting that for a longass time
So settle with what we have or go play Cata
So yeah, pvp sucks and its no wonder its dying
Where you can actually do the shit you say you wanna do
well, it was only s4 and only due to corruptions being broken
It became fairly balanced at least
Early Shadowlands was honestly worse than what we have now
Heartstop Aura meta was the most dog shit ever made
condemn charge
made warrior #1
far ahead of everything
and condemn absorb iirc
and just overall dmg
idk about that lmao
How many times did we have to bugfix WW monk in SL as well
Before it'd finally stop doing 300% damage during spirits
WW has been a buggy mess ever since SEF was developed lmao
its ass cause game is ass
We're all putting each other in 3 sec CC every other global
would hvae been slightly more fine if we didn't also have condemn be castable above 80%
I think the game is definitely better now than when we started S1
But we still got a long way to go
And I ain't seeing it progress while the game is M+ oriented
people basically had a very small window where we didn't stick to them no matter what and that meant staying in a very dangerous window
Condemn was the start of low Execute damage fr
When more than half the time you were in exe range
Condemn also providing a shield that IP then reinforced was wild shit
Sure only against your main target. And whomever you condemned with sweeping strikes..
They really put everything into condemn, no wonder it turned out to be such a great skill.
I mean it was not even that good
Just want to polish my halo and remind everyone I was playing crit condemn from day1 while everyone else fiddled around with haste spear first
hopefully blizz finish to kill M+ and these fuckers quit
By season 2 it was the worst covenant to use
It was still consistently fun in s2
It just wasn't nearly as good, or fun Imo, as necro banner
Faestomp was nonsense. tbh, necrobanner was interesting as fuck
SL showed what happens when Exe is allowed to deal damage with the way thresholds are designed rn
You'd just instantly win the game if you proced SD while necro was up
They should have kept necrobanner for fury, spear for prot, and condemn for arms
Imho
ah well, time to train

