pvp

[lavish quest]

Jeff there just cause lmao

[exotic forge]

Isn't that uhh... what's her name. Dagger?

[rancid granite]

@craggy cliff whats the main use of killing spree? any tips or tricks? or is it just a dmg button?

[fierce elm]

Hit on CD for damage

and root break

and to delay some damage taken

[rancid granite]

and with supercharged cp's do we wanna use it on kiling spree or save for BTW spam

[fierce elm]

also does omega damage in a cleave situation

[rancid granite]

does more dmg with uhhh blade fury right

flurry w/e

[fierce elm]

You are rarely not rolling pre-vanish BtE spam

To get extra chances at BtE Combo point reset

[rancid granite]

oh right extra proc chance

EZ

[fierce elm]

If you arent going to vanish BtE burst you just send superchargef

But yeah unless you got the NUTS roll you always RtB pre-vanish

[rancid granite]

if there was some WA to yell at me about it maybe but i never pay attention to it

but yeah that all makes sense

i went back assa cause im ~2200 and i feel good at it but after one game i want to go back outlaw lol

[fierce elm]

There is a WA that tells you to roll

it calculates how much worth it is to roll the dice and get supercharged compared to keeping the roll you have

But yeah, just roll when its about to run out and dont worry about it

[urban skiff]

It's just a picture of Jeff and a bit of graphical noise

[lavish quest]

Truuuu 😂

[urban skiff]

It's happening guys!!!

New fate series

[fierce elm]

nerdass

its new years

go be with your family

[wheat jay]

Happy new year Afro

[fierce elm]

Gonna look back at all the memes made about my outlaw when I hit bg blitz 2400 the only serious gamemode

[wheat jay]

Lmao bruh

[fierce elm]

its joever once I hit 2400 in blirz

[urban skiff]

i am, but being home with family with small kids takes FOREVER when there's still 6 hours to midnight

gotta pass the time somehow

[fierce elm]

lmao

Just tell the kids its midnight early

then get smack dab black out drunk and play solo shuffle

[urban skiff]

first time the big one isn't afraid of fireworks and the little one gone from absolutely terrified to hyped asf over the evening so far

so I just want to watch their reactions when the entire world shoots fireworks at midnight

[fierce elm]

not for warr probs

busted on outlaw though

[rancid granite]

sux on assa

ring takes like 10mins to get and i like it on fury

[fierce elm]

it takes 10-15 minutes

to get it at 639 with correct gems

more like 20-30 minutes

catch up mech

and regardless its 639 immediately

[urban skiff]

Only until blizz gets back in the office

[urban skiff]

apparently busted on frost dk as well, so seems it's wonky mastery scaling that makes it nuts.

[fierce elm]

its just wonky

[urban skiff]

Which makes sense why it's better for fury than prot and arms, fury mastery is raw +damage done

you also only have to do it once, on alts you just buy and warband-send the gems. Might still have to do catchup quest

@fierce elm there are some true chads on r/worldofpvp

[fierce elm]

brother in christ

[urban skiff]

Why aren't you rank1 on everything?

Like are you even trying?

[fierce elm]

my guy needs therapy bad

[urban skiff]

Theraphy is temporary, records are forever

That's an outlaw rogue btw, apparently he makes guides?

[rancid granite]

^ dude has some good outlaw videos on youtube btw

yeah

lol

[urban skiff]

Oh yeah he's the reason they nerfed blitz so you can't hook ahead and claim objectives at the start

[exotic forge]

[rancid granite]

like the objectives take longer to start?

[fossil sable]

How do you guys deal with dev evokers in arena? As war it seems like I can never catch them, with their cc protection and constantly being able to hover and fly around.. they make me seriously rage 🤣 that and frost mages at the moment

[exotic forge]

They make me want to call somebody the r word

That's how angry they make me

[fossil sable]

It’s literally the most frustrating thing for me. Everything else I can find ways to halfway deal with them. Evokers and mages with their 100% uptime their slows make me want to say way more than just the r word lol. Unfortunately you can’t really trash talk anymore without getting banned in some way.

[exotic forge]

Everybody's made of glass these days. And I'm convinced mage and evoker players hate themselves and everybody.

Fuck em

[fossil sable]

I get it tho. For the .5sec I’m able to touch them, they almost die. But to make frostmage as mobile as it is seems insane. With the shimmers, displacements and billions of slows with instas.. my god

[urban skiff]

Yep! They changed how soon you can tag objectives after gate opens

[floral widget]

anyone know how get the red eyes appearence into night elfs?

[exotic forge]

Return to Lordaeron questline

Though I think they might be unlocked by default

[floral widget]

ty thought it was only for blood and chaotic elfs

ill try

[exotic forge]

Belves, nelves and velves

[rancid granite]

10 second match

EZ

[fierce elm]

3 pssives in top 4 lmao

wild

[rancid granite]

all with the cool ass legion thunderfury swords

longer fight

[fierce elm]

5 passives top 6 lmao

[torn sigil]

When did they do this? Cause I had an outlaw on my team do it on gilneas alliance side

In the last few weeks

[lavish quest]

I see why you play it

[fierce elm]

its every spec lmao

the fucking ring though

[lavish quest]

Not my warrior

[fierce elm]

Deep wounds rend smh

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/my-precious-gollum-lotr-rings-gif-26678083

[lavish quest]

I play fury nerd

It better

[fierce elm]

Enchant dmh

smh

[torn sigil]

That ring is doing nutty dmg on demon hunters too

[fierce elm]

Yeah but its DH

so nobody cares

[lavish quest]

Who runs those?

[fierce elm]

true lmao

enchantless chads

[urban skiff]

Relatively early. Its not impossible, just not as easy anymore.

[torn sigil]

Was probably cause of mws doing it with the 6 torpedos early in season lol

But this outlaw was faster than any mw I've seen doing the ww fast cap

Had it capped like 2 seconds after I feared them before the water

[lavish quest]

This is why I have 5 mil

[urban skiff]

Trying to find the patch note but doing that on phone is garbage

[sharp meteor]

They changed eots

Outlaw can cheese a few first caps especially with evoker

[rugged temple]

geeze 20+ min que times for both shuffle and blitz on a Tuesday

[sharp meteor]

Ty solo queue for saving qow

[torn sigil]

ive only seen the outlaw cheese on gilneas

[sharp meteor]

Wait 30 mins for single awful game

Ab

Eots

Can often stop tho

[torn sigil]

but we have a brew monk in rated bg who would 99% of the time prevent enemy from capping

[sharp meteor]

Eats used to be like 10vextra sec so always got invaded

Yeeee ring usually owns it

[torn sigil]

you mean extra 10 seconds before its active?

on a fresh warr just geared last night

19 min blitz q 15 min shuffle queue

at midday new years eve

[fierce elm]

Well, depending on server, its also new years

Only true degens and lonely nerds would think about blitz and SS

[rugged temple]

im on stormrage as alliance but true it is new years

[fierce elm]

So yeah lmao

[frank knoll]

The enhance dream is over next patch

No more RTL which was huge damage

[lavish quest]

Thats tomorrow. And wow nerds don't do new years stuff

And yes, fuck your future timezones, we decide when it's a new year

[slow solstice]

real

[wheat jay]

I do

I got invited by a friend

Normally i wouldn't go, but why not lol

Food galore

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-treason-star-wars-emperor-gif-8547403

i stock up 10 liters of alcohol to drink with my aunt uncle, so no wow for me

[frank knoll]

I’m at a point where when I face a premade BG
I mass report the entire enemy team on my 10 WoW accounts

[sharp meteor]

how to give people immunity to mass false reports 101

[fierce elm]

lmao

Happy new years you #pvp degens

[frank knoll]

I have a script I run

I’m a multi millionaire from GME, XRP and the Hawk Tuah rug pull so I have fuck you money and nothing better to do

[zinc tartan]

Happy New Year!

[sharp meteor]

do u have a script that generates some friends to do bgs with u dork

[frank knoll]

Considering making 10-15 more accounts

[sharp meteor]

Bloodbathed a guy for 3.55m

[fierce elm]

this is so degen, that even if you are trolling its so fucking funny

[sharp meteor]

probs just some mad dude who got his skull caved in like a trash mob

[frank knoll]

Considering making 10-15 more accounts
@sharp meteor
Not yet trying to figure out how to finally lose my virginity
I am 39 years old short, over weight and bald I have money and dress well ( Giogio Armani) but I can’t get women to notice me

[fierce elm]

Lke I can absolutely see a r/worldofpvp post

[frank knoll]

I also drive a Tesla and a BMW

[fierce elm]

that has made this in a serious note

[sharp meteor]

LMAO

[frank knoll]

But women don’t notice me
So I log onto my 10 separate accounts (considering making more) and mass report anyone who beats me in BGs Wpvp shuffle etc

[urban skiff]

Remind me again how you spot if they're a premade or not?

[frank knoll]

If my team loses really bad

[urban skiff]

You've never beaten a team really really badly?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

fuck execute

[frank knoll]

I would’ve reported Kennie sorry

[sharp meteor]

idc it wouldn't have done anything

[green wharf]

are you running the deranged build with vicious contempt?

[sharp meteor]

ye

i usually forget to even press roar

[frank knoll]

Probably using the bloodbath exploit

[green wharf]

in this build you dont even pick roar

[sharp meteor]

wrecking ball saltwater and ill just 2-shot their whole backline

[frank knoll]

That would be a mass report man
Sorry man I like you but I don’t like losing

[sharp meteor]

then dont q solo

lmao

5 stack with hands is like 95% wr

[green wharf]

full zug

[sharp meteor]

honestly ye should probs play this

i was at a point

but i felt like spear was useful sometimes

just actual full parser build

every global is like 1500k dmg

[green wharf]

imo you can switch howl for it

with tclap spam everyone is slow all the time

[frank knoll]

You running Deathwish with that build /srs

[sharp meteor]

ya ofc

dont always have it stacked but like

usually you can slide into a brawl and kill their whole squad in a few globals

just dont be first one in

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-gif-26735957

got a hefty chuckle from me

[green wharf]

i cant play with death wish, always die first

[frank knoll]

@sharp meteor what’s the tech here

[sharp meteor]

nothin brew is f tier does nothing except sort of spin nodes

[rancid granite]

thats quite a wall of text there

[exotic forge]

Burger of nothing

[frank knoll]

I see Brews go down quick in all PvP content

[sharp meteor]

The spec hit hard in DF.

[lavish quest]

You ain't a real one

[wheat jay]

It was fun

Ate plenty of food

[green wharf]

tank monk is rly soft, imo, problem with monks is the letard teleports they can do with the flag

[sterile moth]

Arms needs deathwish

[green wharf]

arms already wish for death though

[sharp meteor]

[exotic forge]

I'll admit, that made me laugh

[hasty pulsar]

Kill meeeee

[green wharf]

how my nibas are doing in this new year

warrior power for the whole 2025

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-orgrimmar-walking-warcraft-gif-16112512

[fallen estuary]

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHH theyre actually insanely durable

Had a FC as brew just utterly tank 6 dps on him for 30 sec straight into a winning cap

They dont have killing power yea but defensively when played properly they can be a insane annoyance

[craggy cliff]

in most cases it's just used on CD for damage yeah

[floral widget]

fuck it WE BALLIN

2025 the year of the most chad class

warrior

[green wharf]

its canon

[twin cedar]

should i replace writing ringworm ilvl 626 with Key to the unseeming 639?

[green wharf]

on pvp?

[urban skiff]

sure

try it

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm what's a good ab exercise that doesn't mess up my lower back or rely on my grip?

[green wharf]

i tried to say one but discord didnt let me

[sand sundial]

This is truth

[sand sundial]

Planks

I don't like them (just me) but most crunches

[urban skiff]

If static holds were enough i'd have huge abs from long deadlift and zercher squats sets. 🥴

[sand sundial]

What's your goal

[urban skiff]

And i don't feel like crunches enables a long stretch on the muscles

[urban skiff]

More ab strength, lower back is pulling ahead again and the imbalance is threatening to break down my form on crucial heavy lifts

Idk how to explain it better than that

[sand sundial]

If you want long stretches GHD situps

Risk is crippling yourself in the process

Ab rolls maybe

I'm a calisthenics guy personally tho so

[fickle forge]

EXCITED for the new year rush at the gyms tomorrow man

Gonna be cramped af

[slender wedge]

anyone got a clue if Hero of the Horde title is class/spec wide or entire Blitz playerbase?

[sand sundial]

I go to mine near midnight

Peak

[fierce elm]

Dead bugs?

Or just use straps for leg raises

[green wharf]

you know what would be fun

i bet someone already tried/done

voice command to activate wow skills

imagine scream bladestorm on the mic and you bladestorm

[urban skiff]

It exists. Its part of the accessibility suite but you have to do it via hardware or you break the ToS.

It's better to use foot pedals

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

Who's ever respected the ToS?

[rancid granite]

like the nintendo laserscope??

[green wharf]

peak gamer

[rancid granite]

😂

[green wharf]

it would not fit my head, like you see in the image

are you guys ready to lose ratting in this new arena full of bugs?

[wheat jay]

its not a bg

its an arena

[green wharf]

i said arena

[wheat jay]

cringefryed

[green wharf]

itss the perks of being dyslexic, think arena, type bg

it reminded me of the boralus bg, where some classes could pass trough the guards

[wheat jay]

that arena looks to be very melee friendly

so we'll see

[green wharf]

is this sarcasm

cause it looks like a melee nightmare

[wheat jay]

nothing for ranged to hide at

you can heroic leap on it

disengage

double jump or backflip on dh

harpoon

grapple hook

dk cant kekw

[green wharf]

"cant use that here"

[wheat jay]

you can leap on every vertical arena

soooooooooo

cant see any issues there

[green wharf]

usually new content comes with you not being able to leap in many places

most delves were like that at launch

some still are

i can see being juicy for warlocks with gates and the portal

[wheat jay]

so, like every other map

[green wharf]

dunno, this giving me those ball bg vibes, i can see people being knock off to the sides and needing to walk all the way to the top again while getting slammed by ranged

[wheat jay]

most likely will happen

but you wont have to run as much as in mugambala or blade edge

[lavish quest]

Blizzard design

[wheat jay]

you just can't soothe it anymore

name of the ability stays

[lavish quest]

I get that nerd

Still... literally dumb

[rancid granite]

😂

that's quite a bandaid fix or something

[copper fox]

Almost done with my second legend on alt warrior. Troll and high mountain… I am the anti gnome gamer for all you meta slaves

[sharp meteor]

i went 5-1 in my last shuff and was too madge to play another idk how people do it

[rancid granite]

get mad -> touchgrass or swap chars -> get mad cause you gave up -> go back warr

[copper fox]

Yes

[sharp meteor]

havin a good time on prot when i can fight and not afk defend a node like a bot

how do rogues lose a single game ever i swear

[visual plover]

looking for good prot settup

[urban skiff]

holy shit that looks like enhancement and feral heaven

[urban skiff]

dk can make them get down

which means you now have ranged in the complete open and generally unable to get back up

[sterile moth]

Happy New Year gang

That map stinks

[copper fox]

Idk I just like swinging two massive weapons. Always have

I’m a simple man

[urban skiff]

of all the colours they decided to start with yellow.

YUCK

Give me grey, black, white, red, brown before yellow

[floral widget]

guys

[urban skiff]

Dick'n balls

let's go

[floral widget]

are those changes on the talent tree

[urban skiff]

what changes

[floral widget]

good or bad?

i mean for the 11.1.0

[copper fox]

Exactly

[floral widget]

#updates-midnight message

[wheat jay]

we'll see

[urban skiff]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc/warrior/fury/slayer

you tell us

can you do your old build or not with the new tree?

[wheat jay]

if theyre in the middle, it might be far enough for them to not get gripped

if at the edge, they will

[floral widget]

guess ill can

[urban skiff]

If they're that far, they cannot hit the dk

there's vertikal LoS rules as well as horisontal

And range is calculated as an orb, not just a circle

[wheat jay]

meaning its 3v2 without dk in the mix

win/win situation lol

[urban skiff]

So fun fact, tauren has an advantage because their ball sits higher

WoW mechanics are FUN

[urban skiff]

DK stays down, pulls kill target down while partner rains hell from above

Anyone else come to the edge to hit help their partner, dk grips them too, they stay back

that map alone will make dk more relevant

[wheat jay]

lmao

no way it will

xD

its going to be hell for dk

[urban skiff]

This is what I've been calling too.

@green wharf 3 flexpoints is an improvement

And that's with crushing force. I'm happy I can play without rallying cry

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[green wharf]

not getting the fast footwork, seismic reverberation and rallying cry is too deranged, even for me

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-11638060812026845608

these metaslaves playing gnome and night elf

[urban skiff]

I mean I just threw stuff in there. Personally the new talents are a huge help for me

With the new arena I'm getting the knockback talent for fear

Also fast footwork is meh

[green wharf]

this will be the best build for the new patch

[lavish quest]

Teach me how to have the desire to hit queue

[green wharf]

you can quote me

[urban skiff]

Full BT build, just as god intended

Full BT, slam, whirlwind. Skip RB talents

Just need to swap to Titan's Torment

[copper fox]

Idk I just press Q then go on Instagram and post degen white monster memes 🤓

[lavish quest]

I'm pretty sure like 35 mins is my average now if I try to play that game

So disgusting

[urban skiff]

check my degenerate shit

[hasty pulsar]

just used my vulpera slow to stop a sprinting away rogue.. actually secured me the kill

[urban skiff]

vulpera is secret tech

[hasty pulsar]

I think its actually annoying people too lol

like theyll be running away and all of a sudden theyre like wtf

why am i standing in place

[urban skiff]

like when Battlefield commander used to root on piercing howl

[hasty pulsar]

yah I miss that

[green wharf]

extra rage talent is shit

and not enough reiging blow proc feats, so less bonk

[urban skiff]

it's better than you think

it gives enrage uptime if you play it right, having it be 1 talent makes it worth it imho for people who can play it right

[urban skiff]

fuck raging blow

go all in on BT and lots of rampages

supplement with TC/whirlwind/slam

[rancid granite]

nice AI talent spec

[urban skiff]

More like AU. Artificial unintelligence

[rancid granite]

10 str 3 intelligence build

[urban skiff]

Full barbarian build, 24 strength 20 con, 3 int 3 wis

Rest is flex

[rancid granite]

yes

rofl

[rancid granite]

being disarmed on outlaw is the best

i am now same rating as my warrior and it feels so easy

[idle falcon]

the fact that monks

have a ranged disarm

is so fucking stupid

[rancid granite]

their hamstring refreshes on hit too

[lavish quest]

No memes, am I supposed to use the new ring in PvP?

Isn't looking hot on Murlok

[rancid granite]

i am using it on outlaw and fury

idk if its 100% worth on fury but its doin dam

[idle falcon]

i hope the monk class gets removed

[north thicket]

Fuuk... my eyes are bleeding out by looking at this 'awesomeness' 😄

[north thicket]

Kennie, what's the argument to pick RA+Cruelty over AM+Insanity for Thane?
I am seeing both of these on murlock, unsure as I don't see much dmg difference myself. The higher uptime on Recklessness paired with Torment feels slightly better, it's a root breaker after all.

[urban skiff]

It used to equip the stolen weapon and increase their damage when disarming.

Enjoy what is

[fickle forge]

Need help bro?

We can send somebody over

Check on you

[wheat jay]

Dude you're mental

You need help

[sharp meteor]

dmg profile better in bgs

and then i just also play it in areno when possible

which is usually

[copper fox]

Hey I have down time when I’m content creating

(Help me)

[urban skiff]

glad i'm not the only one not swapping off of bgb spec just to do arenas

[sterile moth]

@boreal veldt you still playing bleedless build?

[lavish quest]

I'm just a chill guy

@copper fox

[exotic forge]

Go outside dude

Stretch. Drink some water

[lavish quest]

Literally first shuffle queue in like a week or two

At 1 hr now

[rancid granite]

drop q re q about 30mins ago

you're gonna get in the absolute worst match if it ever pops

[lavish quest]

Got double lock feral

Went 4-2. Shoulda been 5-1 but one of the locks had a religion against stepping 10 feet to the right

[boreal veldt]

Yepyep

[sterile moth]

How are you liking it? I’ve played some blitz with it today, feels great. Doesn’t seem to be any damage loss on dummy either

[boreal veldt]

I like it better as colossus, just less maintenance and while pressing cleave is still weird i press it as rarely as slam so who cares.

It's a 3 button spec now lmao, OP, MS, HAM

[sterile moth]

That’s what I noticed too. I actually didn’t spec into cleave for this build, just using the fervor WW slam as a filler. I figured I didn’t want cleave eating overpowers which buff MS but that may not be a good approach

Seems to proc the ring more too

[verbal tangle]

@urban skiff what's your SMF Thane tree look like? I'm thinking of leveling one

[sharp meteor]

smf is my favorite talent point that makes me weakaer with no upside

[verbal tangle]

He doesn't know

[sharp meteor]

about what

the patented 160% movement speed build so u can feed faster

[urban skiff]

yikes

[boreal veldt]

slaps spiteful serenity
this badboy can fit so much downside in it you'll love it

[exotic forge]

But the enrage uptime tho

[verbal tangle]

Let's fucking go

[urban skiff]

Remember it stops working in 11.1 and i'll have to play something else that is incredibly dumb

[verbal tangle]

oof

[urban skiff]

11.1 might get dumber. Stay tuned, enjoy current version of shaman while you can. It's dumb fun, unique, and maybe never coming back.

[fickle forge]

Pick Lava Lash

[exotic forge]

Why no lava lash

What's the tech here

[wheat jay]

I believe the tech is "no clue what I'm doing but I'm having fun"

And it's respectable ngl

[exotic forge]

Living up to the "SMF" name

[rancid granite]

can't get any dumber

[wheat jay]

It does make sense when you know what it's changing lol

It just can't be soothed anymore

[stark agate]

Yall like Fierce Followthrough or Opportunist for fury?

[rancid granite]

whether it makes sense or not its still funny and dumb lol

[fickle forge]

There's no tech, Zercher just plays meme builds

[sharp meteor]

[sterile moth]

What was blizz thinking with evokers?

[green wharf]

you dont even need cuz you will always do rampage anyway, is like 100% useless

especially with ne reckless abandon

[green wharf]

RB hit hard and do the rage bit

[eager pawn]

Why do so many fury warr only run 2 set?

4 set isnt worth?

[green wharf]

no

you lose status and the effects are enrfed in pvp

[lavish quest]

I don't think you get it

[fickle forge]

They weren't thinking

[eager pawn]

What do you mean by lose status?

[green wharf]

a lot of set pieces remove mastery and verst to add crit

and crit is shit

[green wharf]

TBF HERE....

im seeing murlok io top players

and they are ditching lava lash for crashing thunder

cause the next skill increase stormstrike damage for 10% damage for Each enemy hit

[eager pawn]

Do people go for Thane in RBG / Blitz? Or still Slayer

[green wharf]

both is good

[sharp meteor]

depends

they both good at diff things

[eager pawn]

when would you go for thane > slayer? depending on maps / comp?

[sterile moth]

You guys know of any colossus wars that stream

[green wharf]

personally i would go thane, cause is more fun, and apply great pressure/cleave in team fights

[urban skiff]

Lava lash with no talents is just nothing.

The goal of the buil is to proc windfury and offhand attacks cannot do that.

[urban skiff]

what rage bit

heyo is 1v2'ing arcane + ret ok after they kill my partner while i'm in cc?

technically they exhausted iceblock and bubble so slightly less impressive

[green wharf]

RB gives you rage, to rampage

+procs+rage+rampage

[urban skiff]

they generate the same amount of rage during reck

[green wharf]

yeah but more procs

+more raging hit

[urban skiff]

more procs of what?

[green wharf]

RB

there are talents that increase prc of RB

[urban skiff]

The build i linked is about throwing lots of BTs

[green wharf]

reset its CD

BT is not priority until you drop their hp to get most of vicious content

[urban skiff]

rotation is gonna be lots of BT + thunderclap + rampage spam

and sudden death procs, you won't have to press RB ever

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

just like how this is about NOT using lava lash

some of us just want to watch the world burn in confusion

[green wharf]

im using storm without elemental blast

[urban skiff]

why? its meatballs!

[green wharf]

lame onlt if accension cast that by itself when it does for tempest

[urban skiff]

more reason to play totemic

i throw my meatball, i drop totem, i save meatball, i zapzapzap, end with sundering-> meatball -> voltaic blaze

sometimes i do spicy and throw totem meatbal

I just realized i've been playing all wrong, 11.0.7 changed whirling elements so I no longer have to save meatballs until after sundering during totem

that's neat

[ruby temple]

Fellas you should all take the frost mage pill. I started queueing it instead of warrior and now I have too many girlfriends.

[urban skiff]

Frost mage only seems good because your prayers to not meet a chad enh shaman have been heard so far

[ruby temple]

Nah I'd ice wall.

[urban skiff]

Made you icewall defensively, that's a win for me

[ruby temple]

Memed a warrior in the opener with a wall tonight in a game and I knew he was mad, because I would have been mad too

Next game my priest goes into angel and I wall los'd him from healing our warlock at 15% (he lived somehow), but I did wall their healer too....

[urban skiff]

ok

but stormstrike

and

but totem

and sometimes

but stormstrike again

that's 10m damage done during cap totem stun

@green wharf

@fickle forge rate my stun dmg

[faint girder]

Is Sanctum of Domination soloable?

[chilly pivot]

didi ppl play Mountain Thane now in arena?

[slow solstice]

into heavy melee

[fierce elm]

yes

[slow solstice]

hi afro

[faint girder]

Ok thx mate!

[fierce elm]

hello

[faint girder]

How can I see if I have Adventure Mode unlocked for Shadowlands?

[urban skiff]

Just dropped a 172 deadlift because my belt came apart

Fun times

[fickle forge]

Mid, press Lava Lash

[fickle forge]

Rolling mage really does make you deluded then huh

[green wharf]

pick mage and you become unfaithful

it checks out

[urban skiff]

Heretics submitting to demon temptations

[urban skiff]

lmao no

we can do that next season if they fix stormstrike

[fickle forge]

Wdym fix?

[urban skiff]

Stormstrike on live is one-hand requirement to cast. On ptr it is currently main-hand instead.

THAT is the same tag that bladestorm has. It means it can be used with 2h. If they realize and fix it, ill probably be stuck with a Lava lash build, as will everyone else with the current changes lining up.

We'll see, there's still one or two rounds of changes that needs to hit ptr. If it makes it out of ptr, it will probably require a full patch to fix, and not just be hotfixed in when people like me start playing it

[fickle forge]

It still sounds troll, DW is just gonna be better for windfury anyway

[urban skiff]

Change happened because they swapped maelstrom into stormstrikes slot and they probably want stormstrike (free spec skill level 10) to be useable with all weapons while levelling.

[green wharf]

2H shaman dream is happening again

[urban skiff]

Why would dw be better for windfury? Afaik offhand don't proc it. At all. Putting it on 2h is like having windfury on offhand. Windfury is one of my highest dmg abilities ø

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-hyper-cool-wicked-koffahype-gif-25016915

[urban skiff]

The only issue i can see is getting windfury stacks up and whether the stacks will stay up. Everything else should be the same as long as its a ppm mechanic.

Playing the non-lash build means a billion stormstrikes and that shouldn't change with loss of offhand

But i'm an idiot so if i missed a mechanic, just tell me

[fickle forge]

I mean I don't believe in it, it's probably for leveling as you say

You wanna swing faster for more procs

[urban skiff]

2h is 2.6 sec cast
1h is 1.6 sec.

You're gonna proc 38% less often but proc is gonna hit 50% harder.

During periods where the proc rate is enhanced your dps will be significantly higher. With a 2h

I'm not claiming it's gonna be superior. I'm hoping it will be.

But i'm sure it's gonna be same or more fun than what im doing today. Which is a personal win for me.

I don't play to win. I play to press stormstrike and maybe do big hits that makes people go "what the fuck this is bullshit"

[fickle forge]

So you should be playing stormbringer then

[urban skiff]

Why?

[fickle forge]

So you can go for Storm Strike build

[urban skiff]

Totemic has increased chance to proc windfury, totem hits for like 2m noncrit

[fickle forge]

And hit hard Tempest casts

[urban skiff]

I already play stormstrike build

[fickle forge]

I mean half the damage from SS build is Lightning Bolt

And storm buffs up bolts

[urban skiff]

Lol

[fickle forge]

While giving Tempest

[urban skiff]

I don't give a damn about lightning bolts. they're just there to buff ny totem during ascendance

[fickle forge]

So what, you don't use spenders then?

[urban skiff]

I throw elemental blasts outside ascendance.

[wheat jay]

Just like demolish kargish, you keep up 10 titanic might stacks for more overpower dmg

[urban skiff]

It's controversial, maybe not perfect. But fun as fuck

[fickle forge]

And LB too I hope?

[urban skiff]

Nop

[fickle forge]

That's, definitely strange

[urban skiff]

Pretty much ignore maelstrom outside ascendance except for meatballs

I also don't spec into manual doggos, but auto doggo

[fickle forge]

I mean you could be doing all that, but with LB as storm, and it's practically identical while being functional

[urban skiff]

I feel like people don't understand what i mean when i say i press stormstrike a lot.

I press it A LOT.

[fickle forge]

You'd be pressing it more with spenders because of resets

[urban skiff]

M8, i never run out

When i do i still have crash lightning and ice strike to keep proccing windfury

Meatballs also proc the reset from frost witch

[fickle forge]

I mean ngl bro, SS doesn't do a lot of damage in itself

[urban skiff]

I use as for windfury procs.

Same with crash lightning and ice strike

I can maybe stream games tonight if you want to see how stupid it is

[green wharf]

windury cast tempest when you are ascended, its deals a shit ton of damage

[fickle forge]

I don't think I'd be prepared for it

[urban skiff]

I'll do it in discord if you want to tell at me in real time in danish

[fickle forge]

We'll see if I'm around man, exams are my main prio right now

[urban skiff]

I keep forgetting there are wow players who still have exams.

Am i about to find out you're in my wife's class?

[fickle forge]

I get the vibe ya'll are from out of the country

København

[urban skiff]

Shes "fra Aarhus à"

[fickle forge]

Well shit

[urban skiff]

You're not in her class discord so you're safe 😁

[fickle forge]

Is it udskoling?

I'm about to get my bachelor's degree man lmao

[urban skiff]

She's doing some akademy thing with IT that i wont pretend to understand

[fickle forge]

In Århus?

[urban skiff]

Yup!

I did marine engineering in Århus as well, at navitas

[fickle forge]

I'm rarely at Navitas, I go at the other end of town at Katrinebjerg

Navitas is where I go for the parties

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah, a clean engineer coming to smell the dirt

[urban skiff]

Reset that. You're about to get stomped

[wheat jay]

Zerch and kargish gym collab when?

[fickle forge]

I ain't looking to be a padawan bro

Zercher crushes my lifts

[green wharf]

didnt got stomped, got a bunch of r*tards

sometimes i get worse people in ranked than in random bgs

[urban skiff]

I can pretend i'm lifting in lbs if that makes you happy

[fierce elm]

Brothers

I just ordered a fucking car

[green wharf]

me and a priest in mid at eye of storm, against 3 dps and a healer, we still manage to lost two bases

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge actually in bgs i sometimes care about my maelstrom, when i swap ascendance config to chain lightnings

[green wharf]

its some kind of special needs team

[urban skiff]

2016 Toyota Yaris let's goooooloo

[fierce elm]

My young ass just ordered a car wtf

Naaa

its a 2025 Audi a3 sportsback lmao

[fickle forge]

I haven't even bound CL on my bars tbh

[fierce elm]

I feel so grown up

[fickle forge]

Too many buttons already

[urban skiff]

It's amazing for blitz like kotmogu where i can wipe out their orb carriers with chain lightning spam off of the ballholder

[worthy fern]

@fierce elm damn homie

Growing up

[fierce elm]

Growing up

even decided on the black rims

[urban skiff]

Shit. Whos your Daddy?

[green wharf]

just need to stop p´laying paladin

[fierce elm]

Im my daddy

[fickle forge]

Feels good when you can say you're the daddy

[fierce elm]

Wont be able to pick up until next week or week after

[worthy fern]

Are Audis cheaper in eu

[fierce elm]

Suureee

Dont tell scoobz how much I spent

[sterile moth]

@fierce elm congrats!

[fierce elm]

Tbf we are also two people using this car so FUCK IT WE BALLIN

[urban skiff]

Not in denmark at least. We pay 160% tax on new cars. 100k car will cost 260k

[fierce elm]

Yeaah

Its over 30k usd

BUT

[urban skiff]

I assume dirty neighbours are doing similar

[fierce elm]

it didnt come from house account

[fickle forge]

Bro really emptied the loanshark for this

[fierce elm]

lmao

[worthy fern]

I think that car is well over 30k here

[fierce elm]

Naa, we need a car, wanted a car that we both liked

[fickle forge]

I'm an ADULT getting myself into DEBT

[fierce elm]

tried 30 cars

ended on this one

[urban skiff]

I paid 25k usd for my Toyota when it was new.

[worthy fern]

Ok not too much more

Starting 38k here

[fickle forge]

Yeah dude my student ass out here living off of small jobs, SU and Icy Veins to drive a renault clio

[fierce elm]

lmao

[worthy fern]

I won’t say what I paid for my cars

[fierce elm]

I mean I am getting 3k from student+work

[urban skiff]

Tbh not the worst French car. I think it's closer to a Volvo in quality

[fierce elm]

And combined with gf getting 2k

[urban skiff]

I used to be a mechanic so i'm biased towards Mazda, Toyota, ford

[fierce elm]

we gucci as fuck

[urban skiff]

You're finished with school soon, right? So you're gonna be fine with electrical work

[fickle forge]

I was driving ford focus 2004 before this one

[fickle forge]

He just started lmao

[fierce elm]

Jan 2026

[urban skiff]

That's a solid work horse. My first car was a 94 ford escort. Only gave up on it because i ran out of people willing to patch up the undercarriage rusting away

[urban skiff]

So that's 12ish payments before you're doubling your income

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's how my ford died too
The very first card I had was the classic student car; Citroen C1

[urban skiff]

Nice

[fickle forge]

Lmao

Nah it wasn't gonna pass by syn because of all the rust on the undercarriage

So had to scrap it

[fierce elm]

Pretty much

[urban skiff]

Reminds me, my rav4 has syn in feb. Guess it's time to swing it by Toyota and see how bad it is

[fierce elm]

I mean its mad money with student loans too tbh

and pretty good terms

[urban skiff]

Which means i need to bring my Yaris back from the dead before august because that one wont survive syn in it's current state

[green wharf]

The same amount of time i got from 500 to 1675 mmr i got from 1675 to 1713 ykes

[urban skiff]

If i had to do over, i'd have gone full student loans and invested the money as it came in.

[green wharf]

maybe its cause end of season

but too few players

[urban skiff]

Then sell investments and paid off loan the day before it starts pulling interests.

[fierce elm]

We can do that lmao

[green wharf]

and i only played 5 games, 3/2

[fierce elm]

Got like 1500 in total costs each month

usd

Gf and I are getting ish 4k total each month

so yeah

[urban skiff]

Before 1500rating your gain is capped at 190ish per game. After it caps at 23 per game. The intention is that it takes as long to go 0 to 1600 as it takes to go from 1600 to 1800.

[green wharf]

its more like

i dont get enough games

i got like 13 games before, at the time i got only 5 now

[urban skiff]

My total transport costs for one car and me to work and back is 1700 usd per month. I spend so much on fuel and 3+ service a year, Some bits on car payment, and peanuts on insurance.

But i drive like 130km a day

[fickle forge]

Look on the bright side, you get a bonus to cover I hope

[green wharf]

minimum salary here is about 160 dollars

[urban skiff]

You're playing during work hours on a weekday. There's always reduced activity before 1700

[green wharf]

degenerate country

[fickle forge]

Work hours on a weekday on the 2nd of Jan sounds so wrong man

[green wharf]

i almost got a gig to DM for some americans by a few bucks, too bad my college at the time didnt gave me time

[urban skiff]

I get roughly 26% of costs reimbursed via tax. But if i found a job close enough that i can skip the car entirely it's like a 12000dkk extra a month.

[green wharf]

dm DND* btw

[fickle forge]

Got a pal working at Beumer who bikes there every day
Ngl, I wouldn't be able to live without a car

[urban skiff]

Get used to it. I can take time off however i want but normal jobs tend to start up the 1st or 2nd of jan very unceremoniously

[fickle forge]

Naaaaah surely not

Most people I know get to at least start at like the 4th of Jan instead

[urban skiff]

I would prefer that.

If i had landed the job at Nature Energy i would have moved for it

[green wharf]

ngl, if i could, i would roll with a bike all the time as well

[urban skiff]

I told my team not to start up before the 6th.

[green wharf]

but, not safe enough, so bus or uber it is

[fickle forge]

One thing I am definitely looking forward to with engineering is the flexibility in the hours

At least most companies I've had contact with tells me you can flex your way through as long as you meet the weekly hour requirement

[urban skiff]

It's the best. Being a project manager i get that on steroids.

Some places promise flex but really only mean one hour a day flex.

My current place it's like, i can do all my work at night if i feel like it

Or on saturday

[fickle forge]

You're also held accountable for a lot of shit if you're managing projects lmao

So as long as it doesn't fall apart it's fine I suppose

[urban skiff]

Just as long as i ensure the project meets quality expectations, which admittedly is difficult to do if i'm not there during work hours when inspecting the sites

Also means i have to be present and accessible if the guys are working evenings, nights, weekends, because something critical where we can't shut down a road at awkward times

Plus safety above all. So they cannot ever know that i'll never be at specific hours. Gotta keep them on their toes or soon the hardhats come off

[fickle forge]

Can't let em' know work hours are being dedicated to pressing Storm Strike

[urban skiff]

Stormstrike, no space!

[fickle forge]

Stormstrike Strike

We gotta get this out of the way man

Why is it Stormstrike, but Mortal Strike has a space

[green wharf]

POTM of the moon energy

only real ones will get that

[urban skiff]

It should be with a space, so we can tell the difference between stormstrike attack and stormstrike damage type

Imagine if mage had an attack called "fire"

[fickle forge]

Maybe they should just come back and redefine spell schools

It's a pretty flawed system in this day and age

[urban skiff]

Imagine if they made it relevant again. Have warriors spec into frost resistance while enraged "10% chance a frost spell won't apply any debuffs when it lands"

Let's goooo

[fickle forge]

Yeah but we have like 28 different spell schools

So even if you're shielded against frost damage, they just pull out one of the other 27 schools and bypass it

[urban skiff]

True, but you get to pick what you think will be most troublesome before the game starts. So you need poison resistance vs the assa rogue, or do you want resistance vs frost vs the mage?

And they get frostfire hero talents to bypass fire and frost resistance entirely.

Rock paper scissors game where you dont know what they'll choose before the game begins. And have to deal with your choices until its over

[fickle forge]

There's just too many schools of magic in the game for it to really be a thing though

Assassa hardly does nature damage anymore anyway

It's all bleeds and plague damage

[lavish quest]

Thought rogues were good with stun DRs?

2200, homie waits till 0.2s left on stun DR so he could get a 0s cheap instead of a 4s waiting just a half second longer

Explains why he went 0-6 at least

[sterile moth]

Leland, it’s 2025…I want you to say something positive. Just try it

[fickle forge]

I am tempted to make an outlaw rogue to put @fierce elm in his place

[fierce elm]

Im tempted to bomb your country

[fickle forge]

Walk across the ice when the ocean freezes pal

See what happens

[lavish quest]

I'll let you know when something positive happens m8

I went 4-2, so that was cool (obviously since he went 0-6)

Only 31 rating tho, even though the MMR was slightly higher than my own. So... that was odd but w/e

[sterile moth]

@lavish quest nice! 31 rating is a dub

[wheat jay]

Thug cleave

[fickle forge]

Beast cleave is what we do now

[wheat jay]

2100mmr already

Easy gaming easy life

[lavish quest]

Just a reminder for @wheat jay

[green wharf]

why change the name right

[wheat jay]

it still makes sense if you know how soothe works

[lavish quest]

That's not the point dumb dumb

I can feel the autism

[wheat jay]

fuck

you

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge happy incoming snowstorm

[rancid granite]

iT STiLl MaKeS SeNsE

[fickle forge]

Yep, I just felt it at Megasyd

[urban skiff]

Went from barely seeing any, to snowing so hard we can hear it land.

In like 3 minutes

[fickle forge]

That's Denmark for you bro

Rain for a week straight too

[green wharf]

would like some rain right now

[fierce elm]

We got mad snow

rode powder for an entire day the other day

[green wharf]

35°c 95f, hot as fucking balls

[urban skiff]

2 years ago my car said -18C, had to walk around in very cold freezing weather on top of a hill and carry around an aluminum rod with a GPS dongle on top and measure something for an hour. The rod just sapped all heat out of my body in seconds

[fierce elm]

its only -7c here rn

Hit -15 the other day

Expecting -20 soon tbh

[green wharf]

i would prob die at -20

[fierce elm]

naa its fine

-30 does feel like someone shoving a spike of ice in your face constantly

[green wharf]

isnt fine, i dont think i ever got anything lower than 20 in my life

im adapted for the hot

[fierce elm]

Yeah, you get used to it

I cant handle 25+

kek

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

Happily go snowboarding in -20/-30

[green wharf]

max we got here is like 40°c some places get more than that

sheesh

[fierce elm]

yeah fuck that

[urban skiff]

anything under -10 feels the same to me

Anything above 6C is t-shirt OR shorts, anything above 13C is t-shirt AND shorts

[fierce elm]

Yeah lmao

the worst is winter to spring

when you go from -15 to 0 in like a day

and have to wear tshirt+pants or you sweat your balls off

[sand sundial]

i used to live somewhere where -25C was on the regular

[urban skiff]

last year, ground was frozen for two weeks straight. Halted all my projects but one.

[sand sundial]

you would DEF feel that

[urban skiff]

fuck that sounds amazing. I hate warm weather. I love cold weather

But my job won't let us wear shorts so that's an automatic extra factor

[fierce elm]

Cold weather is just a vibe

better sleep, better sports

[urban skiff]

"what if a customer sees your legs? UNPROFESSIONAL!"

[green wharf]

come here where we get 35~~38° normally

[fierce elm]

Food tastes better

[sand sundial]

at that weather, you risk hypothermia if you stay out for too long

[urban skiff]

meanwhile half the time I'm covered in clay and dirt to my knees in my nice pants.

[green wharf]

28~~32 in winter

[urban skiff]

idk how that's better

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

You dress for the weather

[sand sundial]

I had to be out for a couple blizzard storms

[green wharf]

in? on?

[sand sundial]

shit was like a movie

[sand sundial]

if you're somewhere where its common for it to be that cold and they get snow a lot, the place is usually built around that

so work does not stop over some snow that goes to your waist

[fierce elm]

I just put on my snowboard gear and am fine until -40 lmao

[sand sundial]

just dont die <3

[fierce elm]

Did go outside in a polo+work pants at -18 once

to help a customer

took me like 3 hours to not feel cold as fuck

[sand sundial]

feeling the cold is a genetic factor as well

or like, adaptive

definetly got less resistant since i moved

[fierce elm]

Acclimated

its a thing

[green wharf]

would be dope to do work out in the cold, to get the warm, doing when you are already boiling sure make shit harder

you need so much water to not die

[sand sundial]

it can be both beneficial and bad

you can get very sick

[rancid granite]

old wives tale

[fierce elm]

I like old myths

However, hypothermia is a thing

and if its cold enough and you are exposed, frostbite

[rancid granite]

i did not read any of the convo but yeah maybe dont go in cold enough weather where you can get frostbite

lol

[fierce elm]

lmao

We have no choice here brother bear

Usually hits -18/-20 pretty consistently end of January or mid-jan

Sometimes dips to -25/30

[green wharf]

easier to get warmer than get colder

[urban skiff]

That's what "too long" means 😄

[urban skiff]

When I plan projects I always assume the welders work half speed during summer and earth guys work at 75% speed.

[green wharf]

demolish is such a goober skill, imagine doing more damage in the first two strikes, cause both crit

and the last one is a fart

[wraith sluice]

Why does is feel like fury ist rallye hitting Hard sometimes and sometimes the enemys literally melting

[scarlet barn]

We just had so much snow falling today that i legit cleaner my balcony 3 times

[green wharf]

enrage maybe

[urban skiff]

Many modifiers that sometimes overlap and other times don't.

[sterile moth]

@green wharf demolish is fine! Mostly fine jk…Tbh, biggest benefit is huge MS and OP along with extra survivability

It is super fun to dunk on somebody with demolish in a shockwave when they can’t trinket

[urban skiff]

This!

[green wharf]

yall are going to choke in cope soon

[sterile moth]

Maybe but at least I can stay alive in shuffle as Col

[urban skiff]

2h stormstrike

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff Guess I'm back

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah!!

[fierce elm]

Grats on your first 1000 rating!!!!

[fickle forge]

Thanks bro, I worked really hard for it

[green wharf]

we all start somewhere

where is the hero talent that make you thunderblast

when you heroic leap

[frank knoll]

4 hours doing BGs as horde this am
Only won one, the rest are complete 1 sided alliance stomp fests

[torn sigil]

Imagine ever queueing random bg

[frank knoll]

Imagine that being 80-90 % of people who do PvP content

[fickle forge]

I hate enh sham death logs

[urban skiff]

I hate that it's usually unreadable because of so much damage done.

I started using the enemy damage taken by coupled with damage taken by in tandem with the death log

[green wharf]

its fun to farm the daily conq and to turn off brain and just bonk

without pressure

[rancid granite]

^

can try new things and derp around its relaxin

[urban skiff]

wish skirmish was like, best out of 8 games

make them last longer

Daily reminder you can queue classic ashran for easy conquest via the weekly brawl quest

complete the objectives off the main road, each counts as a brawl win.

[deft ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/asdasda-im-back-gif-13722286

[fickle forge]

1 lobby and it's instantly back to the deadzone

[urban skiff]

stop letting your mmr go so high

do some 2-4 and 3-3

[fickle forge]

I can't now even if I want to

The Q is finished for me

I'll get a lobby in 4 hours

[fierce elm]

shoulda inted every game

[urban skiff]

nah, give it 5 more minutes, then queue skirmish

it will be fiixed whtn you get out

lmao these skirmiishes

@fickle forge check my damage breakdown

I forgot to put down my totem before going ham

[fickle forge]

Holy shit bro it popped

After 38 min

And it's Mugambala

[urban skiff]

That's a great arena if you can make them fight upstairs

just thunderstorm them off

[fickle forge]

Double enh sham lobby?

We've gone too far

[urban skiff]

haha

better hope you don't see me in there

I haven't lost to another enh in ages

also my mmr is like 1900 or idk

starting to think Flowing Spirits is a dead talent

at least when matches only last 70 seconds

man I want to like elementalist

it's got many neat little combos and I love when classes have that

what's the easy 1-2-3 on how to stream my arenas?

[green wharf]

i love to do the world pvp quests as prot

everyone pass like you are the boss

you know the fuckers would goble all over you if you were fury or arms

but they know they will get the D if they try something funny

[boreal veldt]

get OBS, setup a share screen/game capture scene, make sure audio isn't clipping or quiet and connect to your stream site

[frank knoll]

Don’t like Totemic
Feel like the burst is too low

[fickle forge]

The damage is just unhealable instead

[urban skiff]

have you tried

THIS SPEC???

[green wharf]

wat

[green wharf]

/\ free mmr loss build

[frank knoll]

Naw playing the Saul build with no asced

Or tempest

[urban skiff]

there's your problem

If your burst feels too low as the spec used by top players, it's a playstyle issue

[frank knoll]

Prim wave kinda suck
LBs crit for like 500k max

[urban skiff]

either you need to swap to something that you vibe better with or you need to distort yourself to play something you don't enjoy

[fickle forge]

Totemic enh does crazy dam

[urban skiff]

this tbh

My abomination is big dam, but bigdam is the biggest dik dam

[frank knoll]

Ur not playing Hot hand/lava lash talents I see

[urban skiff]

correct

people think it's a stormstrike build, it's not

it's a windfury build

[urban skiff]

I don't think you play peewave to do big lightning bolts

it's about the metric fuckton of haste you get with it

and throwing out lava lashes and free sunders

[green wharf]

only do damage in a 2m window

[urban skiff]

huh

[frank knoll]

Thanks gonna try it

Rn Tempest works for me but I haven’t faced anyone good yet
Like 1850 ish

I can kinda just wait for DRs and healer cc and win with ascendance

[north thicket]

Is there a legit argument why our Disarm is the poor man's Faerie Swarm? Second-rate citizenship.
Even Monk's is ranged. Warri's is on-par only with Rogue's Dismantle.

And if Banner is gone should Nullifying Shroud be gone too?

[wheat jay]

You can reflect hunter disarm

[green wharf]

the argument is : fuck warriors -blizzard

[urban skiff]

imagine playing the best class in the game and thinking blizzard says "fuck warriors" unironically

[green wharf]

im not playing paladin

[frank knoll]

Didn’t they actually say
Warrior shouldn’t have burst in PvP

[green wharf]

there is so many shit they say, that i wouldnt be surprised

i remember the classic

"we dont want you to play demnology"

[fickle forge]

Now tbf

Arms design is pretty yikes

[urban skiff]

Even at their worst, warrior is pretty good though

[rancid granite]

we scale with stats so something something hope for s2 s3

[fickle forge]

That's a thing of the past bro

[fickle forge]

The design is yikes though

Blizz keeps trying to make arms faster by making all these reset mechanics

When really I just wanna hit hard

[urban skiff]

I know it's tough to watch all the other guys get new toys but... Come on, we got a RTX 4090 on launch day and have been rocking it ever since. Now the other kids are finally getting 4070 4080 4090 and we also want shiny new toys

Warrior is pretty good

[copper fox]

The only thing that keeps warrior good is, when we have uptime, people panic

[fickle forge]

We can't have a hard hitting Execute anymore

And Mortal Strike literally has like a 60% buff in PvP for it to be viable

It's not a good time

[urban skiff]

they can't really make execute hit any harder or they'll risk people literally getting wiped out from just bladestorm into execute

[deft ridge]

this

[urban skiff]

if it doesn't feel like execute and MS hits hard, it's becuase other classes also get to chunk

[fickle forge]

Yeah, imagine dying because you got executed

[urban skiff]

and it used to be our thing

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-cope-here-we-cope-windy-gif-15155525

[urban skiff]

Blizzard and naming stuff has always been cursed