pvp

[green wharf]

dude

i can feel the hatred people have for prot in pvp

i can feel seeping into me when im thunderclaping their asses

[wheat jay]

people hate every tank in pvp

because its an unfun experience to have an annoying mosquito on you

[green wharf]

the thing is prot can kill then

[wheat jay]

which you can't kill

and they can kill you unless you have a healer on you

its just unfun

[green wharf]

i got so many stacks on juggernaut that i was ripping some nasty executes

[wheat jay]

ye

its annyoing

[green wharf]

Their disc lost like 20% in one zap cause execute+lightining strikes

didnt had even time to shield or heal

it was perfect

[wheat jay]

you only prove my point ;D

[green wharf]

yeah, its glorious

[wheat jay]

its unfun experience to face tanks

[green wharf]

shit is how long the quee is

[wheat jay]

ye, you spend long time in a q to play into some tanks

its even worse in shuffle

[exotic forge]

I'd assume so

[wheat jay]

when you sit in q for 45min to get prot pala healers...

yes, after that you choose a zone

and fly there

[exotic forge]

There's an option to skip the whole intro as far as I know and it should give you full access though

[green wharf]

[faint girder]

Hmm ok thx guys for the info!

[green wharf]

as soon you skip the maw quests, a dude will stop time and ofer you the skip

i think its bugged

but the other skips are possible afaik

[urban skiff]

guys is this BIS??

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=232526/best-in-slots

[lavish quest]

It's bugged to fuck tho

SL should be deleted

[green wharf]

i think people are dumber in flag maps

[urban skiff]

i love flag maps

[green wharf]

yeah but there must be something, that make people playing dumber

like

[urban skiff]

imo worse maps are the zone maps like silvershard and the new one

[green wharf]

they forget the whole point of a flag map is, you know

the flag

[urban skiff]

It's very difficult to carry the game on those maps if they don't play in a way that I can 1v2 a cart

That's the bystander effect

Everyone assumes someone else is going to do the thing

[green wharf]

i literaly took out of the game 1 healer and one dps the whole BG, and we still lost 3/0

dude had only heal on himself and on the dumb DH on me

[urban skiff]

Always ask people in lobby who carries flag, if nobody pipes up you pick the best candidate and ask by name/class if they can be primary carrier

[green wharf]

you are fighting 7x6 with 2 heals and still lose

[urban skiff]

It's like the first thing you learn in first aid. You don't shout for help, you point at a person and say loudly "You, do X"

[green wharf]

ah people did that, dracthyr and rogue said they would carry

they did shit

[urban skiff]

THey didn't do shit. Your opponents played well

[green wharf]

nah, both teams sucked balls

[urban skiff]

You have a really negative outlook and it's probably souring the entire experience for you 🤔

[green wharf]

and it was my mistake trusting then and taking 2 players out of game

next time i will just run flag myself

too bad dragon charge is like super shit when you have the flag

imagine dragon charge replacing heroic leap how fucking awful it will be

[wheat jay]

we'll see

[urban skiff]

I've said it like 80 times by now, make sure you go on the PTR and give feedback when it opens up

[green wharf]

i cant install the ptr

no space, cause i got some neat games

people also have this itch, when both dps and the healer are like half hp, everyone stop hitting the healer to kill the dps

then the healer, with no rpessure, heal both

[sour crag]

Theoretically speaking, what DPS would be a good combo in 2s as Fury?

[urban skiff]

i guess enh?

feral and outlaw maybe

[sour crag]

Seeing as nobody wants to heal in premade unless you got 2k, I'm kinda desperate to pick a dps

[lavish quest]

Double DPS 2s blows as war

Find an egirl to heal you

[rancid granite]

your kitty profile image was bis

[green wharf]

dont find a egirl

[rancid granite]

shark is cute tho

[green wharf]

its a way without exit

[slow solstice]

did you give up on ss dream?

[slow solstice]

^ is my egirl

[green wharf]

holy shit is monday already

i need to farm raid mogs

[sour crag]

Nope, did an SS today and it became a draw. I'm doing 2s because I want to finish the weekly quest off my list before reset

[green wharf]

fuck this long ass quee

[lavish quest]

Have I even healed you yet?

I remember you healing me, and sucking at it

[lavish quest]

Which cat? Business cat or raging cat?

[rancid granite]

raging one I guess? but was too cute that it didn't seem like raging

I don't remember business cat prof lol

[slow solstice]

real

i think you might have

but me tired

[green wharf]

what you guys call this?

[lavish quest]

Well it was the last one lol.
Cat in suit

[lavish quest]

I could use 1800 on like... dragon and rdru. But not sure if I'm gonna put in that effort

Even if my drag is already 1600+ and partially geared from like a month or two ago

[green wharf]

you play evoker?

[rancid granite]

LOL yes this one

[slow solstice]

bring bro back

i hate the shark

[lavish quest]

Not really. I'm capable because I'm a gamer

I can hit 1800 on most if not all healers. Not like game is hard

[lavish quest]

What's wrong with Jeff?

I could use a better Jeff photo tbf

[slow solstice]

the cat is better

[rancid granite]

jeff is cute; pretty fintastic

kinda jawesome

[slow solstice]

that one is good

[lavish quest]

😂

[green wharf]

no you didnt

[green wharf]

made some comparisons with the new ring, that increase your size

this is ring+colossus

just colossus

nothing

on a taurenz/andalari will be funny as f

[cinder tundra]

stance

[sterile moth]

Love your mog Syeg

[green wharf]

it funny cause bigger you get feel slower

[sterile moth]

Yep lol

Feel like a Tauren

My gnome warrior is the size of regular orc though which is nice

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25368312

[frank knoll]

That’s kinda gay

[green wharf]

hey, its a pup shark, isnt like that

[lavish quest]

Why you hating on Jeff?

[floral widget]

the Circes ring? it increases your size?

[green wharf]

ye

leviathan citrine make you giga

[hasty pulsar]

i love it but just wish that citrine did more damage

[green wharf]

pparently is bugged and is cracking some big d damage

[deft ridge]

What's the opinion on reckless abandon vs anger management into certain teams and why? When taking reckless abandon could it be worth dropping bladestorm to free up some points since there’s no bladestorm cdr with RA?

[sterile moth]

I can’t see it being good. Bladestorm as fury is super powerful

[fierce elm]

Imagine dropping one of the highest bursts in the game

[sterile moth]

Un-CC able too. Don’t do it Stu!!!

[deft ridge]

loll idk it's tempting!

[lavish quest]

How could you drop bladestorm?

That must be a sin

It's also the only time we can play the game

[green wharf]

bladestorm is like, immunity to stun and roots

super useful

[neat flower]

I think Stu is asking from a Mountian thane and reckless abandon perspective only. Theres no bladestorm modifiers to increase dmg, nor is there any cdr

[exotic forge]

Yes. Yes it should.

[lavish quest]

Can't be cc'd is the only modifier i needed to hear to take it

[exotic forge]

Anger Management is better than RA. More so as Slayer. You can Bladestorm every 45 sec or so. And never drop Bladestorm, it's literally most of your damage

[sterile moth]

Broooooooooostorm

[deft ridge]

ty for feedback!

[rancid granite]

i love the big brain warrior takes

but in the end it always comes down to zug

[exotic forge]

Sometimes the way to prevail is by zugging as hard as you can

[rancid granite]

the fundamental itself of pvp

you win when their hp reaches zero

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGDcwOxBzY

[deft ridge]

a classic

[sterile moth]

So good

He couldn’t have made that interview more spot on if he tried

[boreal veldt]

inb4 is this any good in pvp day 1 of patch

[urban skiff]

It's tagged with 0.2 pvp modifier so very doubtful

[fierce elm]

so is the ring KEK

[boreal veldt]

buddy of mine was blasting with the ring on brew monk last night

[hasty pulsar]

i find the ring super rng

sometimes it seems to own sometimes it kinda doesnt?

not sure why yet

[boreal veldt]

sounds like my arms build lol

[exotic forge]

slaps roof of Bladestorm
You can fit so many blades here

[urban skiff]

My theory is that the ppm is per target. So in cleave situations it pads a lot

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah but even the single target zap citrine will hit non crit for like 600-800k but most times hits for like 200k

Maybe I guess depends on opponents versa or some crap

[urban skiff]

more people playing with the ring is good business for me

They're taking from 2.5% more damage and up

[hasty pulsar]

Ya I think I’m done using the ring

[urban skiff]

keep spreading the word that it's awesome

[hasty pulsar]

too inconsistent for me

[urban skiff]

Seeing people dip under 20% and some under 15% vers is fuck yeah let's go time

[fierce elm]

Happily take that on Outlaw

If you dip below 20% idk man

[hasty pulsar]

Yes true lol

[fierce elm]

I sit at 22% with the ring

[urban skiff]

no crafts then?

[fierce elm]

two

four!

four

I think lmao

[urban skiff]

guessing it's not jewelry

[fierce elm]

but also 2 weapons

Ring and neck + pants + boots

[urban skiff]

kind of weird your vers is that high then

[fierce elm]

But again, two weapons

idk its hovering around 20%+

[urban skiff]

I'm at 23% on shaman with jewelry crafted

and only 2set so vers on all my pieces

[fierce elm]

also 4 set

I am just built different

@urban skiff

One vers/haste gem, no vers enchants

[urban skiff]

0 vers

[fierce elm]

so 21% with the ring

Any fury warrior should be able to hit this fine

particularly since not running 4 set

and having two weapons

Outlaw just needs wack stats for optimization

[urban skiff]

thought your outlaw was that high

it makes sense for fury because the weapon is a massive amount of extra stats over all other specs

[fierce elm]

That is my Outlaw lmao

[urban skiff]

this my enh

[fierce elm]

Like that is my Outlaw

big bro

Without any buffs, any special shit

just a pistol shot on the dummy

could grab 200 more vers but then I miss the haste thing for BtE

[urban skiff]

kind of fucky

my mastery barely moves when i activate pvp but my haste jumps by 4%

I think I'm iin trouble

[true tiger]

guys which gems are best for siren ring on fury?

[fierce elm]

If you are going to run it

[true tiger]

is skipper citrine bad?

[fierce elm]

you can use it

however, its not the best

[true tiger]

so squal still better

okay thanku ❤️

[sour crag]

So whoever wanted me to record my matches for feedback, and where to upload it?

[limber relic]

not bad

[urban skiff]

wat the fuck

who has the time for that many rounds of anything

[limber relic]

it shows all ssns

so dont look at the score lol

[sour crag]

What's this addon?

is it like PvPAssistant?

[limber relic]

reflex

[boreal veldt]

the one you lost, was that a turbo comp?

[limber relic]

no, ele. we kinda auto lose against thunder

[lavish quest]

Youtube or something you can easily share here

[sour crag]

People are fine with uploading vids on this channel?

[faint girder]

Anyone know what addon causes these?

I found it .. its Quartz - anyone know how to disable those?

[limber relic]

HAHA WHAT IS THIS

[lavish quest]

Put it in "pvp help review"

[fierce elm]

get fucked

[sharp meteor]

flashback to cosmic

frost mage casts for 2 seconds

whole team deadge

[boreal veldt]

getting buffed in 11.1 btw

[fickle forge]

Here I am, pressing 10 globals and a channel to do the same with Demolish

And this dude triple casts FFB

Ends the game

[wheat jay]

Nice healer

[limber relic]

he had everything up. the mage i mean

and idk the MW was funny he cac deva first 2s

[fickle forge]

I'd trust Bank on his CD usage tbh

[wheat jay]

Ye id trust multiple r1, and awc level mistweaver monk too

[north thicket]

How is this even possible? Do I read correctly? 3 FF bolts in range of 1.5-2m hitting at the same time (never played mage)

[frank knoll]

Anyone use the PvE siren isle ring

[limber relic]

ggs

[wheat jay]

[rancid granite]

🫡

[limber relic]

not seen a single WMD and we got to 2600mmr

[boreal veldt]

🫡

[limber relic]

@boreal veldt @rancid granite 🫡

[sour crag]

SS is so whack, having me face a destro and affli warlock at the same time.

I'm still messing up my Rampage rotation despite training between quues, but I am getting a hang of it

[limber relic]

wdym rampage rotation

[sour crag]

I've struggled to keep up DPS to upkeep Rampage, but I've trained to be more concise with it

[limber relic]

u mean spam rampage?

[wheat jay]

Thats an ugly ass mount

[limber relic]

cant argue against that

[sour crag]

Yes. I am so hardwired being Arms that I keep prioritize Execute and forget to spam rampage. So I'm slowly relearning my muscle memory

[boreal veldt]

I could invite you over to colossus arms where execute is a myth and a fools button

[limber relic]

i mean execute>rampage

[fickle forge]

He could play prot where Exe is fat

[boreal veldt]

i'm wolverine every night with a photo of prot's exe

[faint girder]

Anyone know why my Gladius overlaps with 2 health bars for each player?

[limber relic]

prob another addon?

[boreal veldt]

i dropped all my bleeds for a cursed cleave/slam fervor build, getting ready for 11.1

not even running clap

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[fickle forge]

Cleave

15% buff to MS is fat though

[boreal veldt]

they're pushing cleave so hard man

[rancid granite]

this is the most bizarre ui ive seen yet

[copper fox]

Looks like gladius and battleground enemies

[copper fox]

WMD is insane rn

There’s 3 on US around 2.5

Comp is so good

[faint girder]

thank you

[limber relic]

literally seen 0 in the ladder on EU. literally 0

[copper fox]

Congrats tho

Huge

[limber relic]

thanks ❤️

[copper fox]

I got it as SP fury hpal on one of my warriors, I’m a rat 😅

Playing frost tsg on alt around 2.4 rn tho

More fun lol

Rdruid tsg

[limber relic]

we played against sp fury rsham, was really aids. rsham just spam purge

[fickle forge]

I only have fun as frost TSG if the DK is good

Else it feels like hell

[copper fox]

Yea exactly

Dk has to be good

I play thane a lot with it too

Claps

[limber relic]

thane claps idd

[rancid granite]

hows it feel being famous seif

was checkin out murlok again

[limber relic]

kekw

[rancid granite]

getting on murlok is > glad mount/title

[limber relic]

my alt is higher up than main xd

[rancid granite]

a warrior??

[limber relic]

"seifchamqt" and "seifcham"

[rancid granite]

🫡 🫡 2 salutes then lol

[limber relic]

im only r24 on my alt. im badge

🫡 tho

im just happy to get glad overwith. i wanted to get it before newyears and i did. now i can rest in peace

literally got 0 to do in wow on my warriors atm. r1 cuttof on both.

i and i forgott. i havent slept in 48h. yikes.

im gna die from a heartattack any time soon

[rancid granite]

collect mogs and rp

:)

i still want 2400 before s2 but its a lot of work i tell ya

idk how you do it

[limber relic]

the hardest part of getting glad is finding a team kek

and if i can get it as WMD it shouldnt be that hard to get it as thundercleave

unless u have an ele like 1 i played with who was always 50% dmg less than everyone else... that didnt work at all

[hasty pulsar]

wait are we possibly going to play cleave in pvp? wat?

[sterile moth]

@boreal veldt How does it feel

[fickle forge]

No, we aren't

[limber relic]

i play cleave build in 3s

shh dont tell them

[hasty pulsar]

interesting

[fickle forge]

You play fury thane

You liar

[limber relic]

thats cleave

[sharp meteor]

ya thats the cleavey parser build

if enemy team clumps u do 1m dps

[fickle forge]

He's talking about cleave

The button

[limber relic]

oh <.<

[fickle forge]

The this

[sharp meteor]

[fickle forge]

I mean this spec bro

[hasty pulsar]

😂

[sand sundial]

What's the glad cutoff rn

[limber relic]

r1?

[sand sundial]

No just title

Not r1

[hasty pulsar]

Just need to be elite and win 50 matches as far as I know (edited due to initial answer being wrong)

[limber relic]

this

[hasty pulsar]

Legend need elite and win 100 solo shuffle rounds. Strategist need elite and win 25 bg blitz’s (edited due to initial answer being wrong)

[sharp meteor]

Technically just while elite

[hasty pulsar]

Oh ya can you be elite and be below 2400

You can right

It happened to me before I dipped a bit below 2400 and was still elite

[sharp meteor]

ya 25 point buffer

formerly 30

[sharp meteor]

also wym just title

[hasty pulsar]

Interesting

[sharp meteor]

cos mount is title

albeit temporary title that nobody uses

cos u get to wear it for a few weeks before season ends

[fickle forge]

Casters mains be annoying me so much I'm soon rolling a caster dude

[fierce elm]

Ele/Outlaw time

[limber relic]

if you get above 2400 u can drop to 2375 before it turns to duelist

[hasty pulsar]

Yah that actually happened to me and I was like wtf that’s strange

Now I know the 25 buffer lol thank you

[limber relic]

np

[fickle forge]

We're arms/fury now

Excuse me

Arms/outlaw

[fierce elm]

hell no

I aint playing with an ARMS brother

That shit feels straight up doo doo

[fickle forge]

I'm lowkey pumping dam on it rn

[fierce elm]

stop

[limber relic]

this

[fickle forge]

Ya'll will never reach my mental level with your attitudes

[fierce elm]

s t o p

[fickle forge]

I'm demolishing bro

[fierce elm]

Yeah straight into doo doo town

[fickle forge]

We'll do at least 1 game as arms

[fierce elm]

s t o p

I can deal with everything being DR constantly despite me not doing shit because at least fury does damage lmao

[fickle forge]

I ain't waiting for your dumb kidney to come off of CD

Make the go when I mentally wanna make the go

[fierce elm]

yeah and I aint queueing OUTLAW ARMS

[fickle forge]

Stop being a little hoe?

[fierce elm]

no u

[fickle forge]

You can have my fury after 1 game of arms

All I demand

[tribal urchin]

what talents are you guys using?

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/khande-خندیدن-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-23378220

"EXECUTE"

[boreal veldt]

maybe, it's still weird but bleeds are bad anyway so who cares

[boreal veldt]

weird and bad

like if they actually push us out of bleed enough as colossus that cleave is better, it feels bad

but... in 2 target, with fervor... cleave fucks

not better than ms or op

but 20 rage cleave+slam is not bad

if cleave granted a might stack for 2target instead of 3 it'd be better

[urban skiff]

there's a gimmick one-shot build that uses cleave stacks + SS stacks to dish out one massive hit after bladestorm

But it requires additional targets

[green wharf]

so its cringe

[limber relic]

Do i quit wow/afk outside SW for 2 months now till end of ssn?

[urban skiff]

now you go play whatever is weird and fun

[limber relic]

Like what

[urban skiff]

tripple shaman

or idk

[limber relic]

I cant play any other classes lol

[urban skiff]

Now's the time to be trying all the weird shit!

including other classes

like make a frost dk and see how far you can get using only a swifty macro every minute

or make a BM hunter but pick the most annoying trollish race and name and pets possible to anger people you trample

[limber relic]

Ive said this before. The reason why im good at warrior is cuz ive been playing warr and warr only forever. Playing another class would take me ages.

And then when id go back to warrior id have to rewire my brain

[urban skiff]

But that's the beauty of dicking around m8

you don't have to be good at it, just have to enjoy it

i doubt I'll ever be good at shaman

but damn if I'm not having more fun with it than anything else

[limber relic]

I enjoy diving deep into a class and master it

Like with warrior

😂

[urban skiff]

Make a new warrior, see how high rating you can get using only honor gear

or play something completely off meta like smf thane

make bad choices and then make people feel bad about losing to you!

[limber relic]

I actually tried smf thane wasnt bad

[urban skiff]

people losing their shit over my build and then losing it all over again when I beat them

[limber relic]

I made a warr alt and got past my mains solo shuffle ratings

Sadge times

[urban skiff]

I can't even explain how it works!

maybe if you play something that doesn't rewire your warrior brain?

[limber relic]

I tried dh in df

Pretty simillar

[urban skiff]

I really want to like dh but I really don't get it

[limber relic]

But stil diffrent.

[urban skiff]

Like I really really really want to like dh

i especially like the tank spec meta form but, nowhere to use it

And all the guides start out with "so you have to play extremely perfectly or you'll be garbage" and I'll never ever submit myself to trying

[limber relic]

U know what i like? When u play a class for long enough that you can do tricks like predict hoj and reflect it

[urban skiff]

OH!

[limber relic]

Same thing would be to veng retreat as a dh

[urban skiff]

That reminds me of a pet project i forgot about

I wanted to make a weakaura that counts stupid shit like number of spellreflected hoj/warlock coil

[limber relic]

Nothing makes my day better than reflecting a coil and winning the game 😎

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah

I got 1800 doing that

Not much, but that's always my goal

[limber relic]

I did that in one of my glad wins. Was very juicy

[urban skiff]

Warlock was raging at me when we played together and then i spent the rest of shuffle reflecting every coil

So if you have to do something on your warrior, how about breaking the auction house?

getting 400k in 24 hours was a rush

[limber relic]

Hm idk. Feels like im pretty done with alot

Legend/strategist/glad

R1 cutoff for now

[urban skiff]

Bet I already know the answer, but what about m+ titles?

[limber relic]

R1 m+? Thought of ot but i got tired of pve heroes

They are worse than pvper

[urban skiff]

Yeah m+ is just so incredibly boring

And the people there are the worst, compared to arena

[limber relic]

Id stil lfg for ages signing up to groups

[urban skiff]

in arena LFG you'll have people leave after a few wins and that's it. In m+ you'll lose your key or waste 30+ minutes on someone easily

[limber relic]

Had super high ilvl

Good parse and w/e

They rather wait for someone with even higher io score

They are Pretty much asking for boosts

Its like a 2k rated pvper wont inv another 2k players cuz they want a glad player

[urban skiff]

starting to think I won't get into korrak's revenge today

[limber relic]

Ive been dueling ppl outside sw. But even thats aids sometimes as a warr. Dueling mages is just sweaty

[limber relic]

[urban skiff]

Here I was looking for something fast that would let me just cast a lot of stormstrike

for a long time

I could have done so many skirmish instead

[limber relic]

Baited

[urban skiff]

even though they end so fast

I imagine this is what it feels like to nut after 2 seconds

You could be selling boosts to fund your gametime?

or buy a longboi

[limber relic]

I used to do that in 2v2. But rogues ferals hunters just eat warriors alive right now

I bought the long boy with adult money

[green wharf]

Whats the reason monks can teleport with the flag

but i cant dragon charge

fuck this game

[limber relic]

I agree

[green wharf]

can paladins buble with the flag or nay

[limber relic]

Nay

[green wharf]

at least that

those fucks

[limber relic]

Mw port with flag has to be the absolute worst thing ever in blitz

[urban skiff]

Because they're using magic and you're using muscle

[urban skiff]

idk, mage teleport with flag seems more worse

[green wharf]

are you even implying muscles arent magiv

[green wharf]

blizz is doing some ape shit changes

make me belief the dev team is new

and they want to show work

you know when you get new coworkers/interns

and they do more work than necessary and fuck thing sup in the proccess

[urban skiff]

n ah I don't

But I'm also in charge of the new people

So idk, maybe I'm just good at reigning them in and crushing their spirits early

[green wharf]

blessed

there is always one guy who want to get in the good graces of the upperhand

[urban skiff]

When i started 3 years ago I spent 3 months with nobody to talk to and nothing to do because they were all too busy, then they finally put me on a project and gave me someone to follow, but he had a kid like a week after and went on a 3 month paternity leave and I just had to take on all his projects with zero training or documentation on top of my own new project.

Man, you better believe I told my boss what was what after that start was over. Told them never ever to do that to new people again and apparently that volunteered me to train new guys

[green wharf]

damn, rough times

[urban skiff]

construction work combined with project work is just the wild west

Everyone acting like i'm taking money straight out of their private purse whenever something costs extra

if IT wasn't such a mess and volatile I'd swap to try that, work in an office all day and wear a tie

[green wharf]

not bad either

in college i worked in palenthology, had to go in all the field to find the juicy stuff

fun, but damn is hard

dont mind working on the museum part

[green wharf]

pushed from 500 to 1675 rank as prot from 2am to now, gonna end here to not ruin my mood

[cosmic vapor]

[green wharf]

hey, thats improvement for me

[torn sigil]

iin blitz?

[green wharf]

yeah

i not a psycho to do shuffle as prot

i got 1879 as fury in shuffle and stop

[torn sigil]

ive seen 2 prots in shuffle ever 1 in df and one last week

both 2.1k mmr annd both 5-1

[green wharf]

i faced some when i was climbing, its annoying as f

but they dont put as much pressure

maybe they work better ina x3 with people making calls

[torn sigil]

set bonus next season looks sleeper iirc

[green wharf]

(2) Set: Your spells and abilities have a chance to activate a Winning Streak! increasing the damage of your Mortal Strike and Cleave by 2%, stacking up to 10 times. Overpower has a 15% chance to remove Winning Streak!
(4) Set: When your Winning Streak! ends, Overpower deals 20% additional damage and recharges 75% faster for 2 seconds per stack of Winning Streak! you had.

waow, more shit lil buffs to MS

we didn't had enough

how fucking fun

lets pretend it will stack 10 times

[fickle forge]

I'm not sure we'll even be playing tier on arms now

[torn sigil]

meant prot set bonus

[green wharf]

Fury seems even shittier

they will 100% nerf prot one

unless the chance is like 0.5%

[verbal tangle]

0.5% chance to absolutely murderfuck someone lmao

[lavish quest]

Murderfuck? Where do I sign up?

[verbal tangle]

Immovable Object + 2pc effect = free goes

[lavish quest]

Eww prot.

I main it in pve and I can't remember which talent that is lol

[verbal tangle]

Avatar and Shield Wall give you the other buff

So when you get 2pc proc you get a free Avatar

[lavish quest]

Prot still our best spec

[rancid granite]

colossus only *

[green wharf]

thats why i said it will be giga nerfed

there is no way they will let that go live

[verbal tangle]

Idk, pve players will bitch enough to keep it going

[green wharf]

and next you will see

(effectiveness reduced by 85% in pvp combat)

[verbal tangle]

I mean, if it's reduced Shield Wall time your terms are acceptable

The entire reason why the 2pc is good is free Avatars off of Immovable Object

[frank knoll]

Why do all Jungle players think they have Mensa iq
Jesus they’re worse than people who RMP

[green wharf]

whats that

im thane only

[verbal tangle]

When you Shield Wall you get Avatar

When you cast one you get the other

[fickle forge]

Buff arms tier

[exotic forge]

I doubt that Shield Wall proc would proc Avatar. There's been procs that don't proc other things I.e. Avatar from Thane doesn't proc Odyn's Fury as Fury

[verbal tangle]

The tier set explicitly says "casts Shield Wall"

Not grants

It's worded specifically to trigger

[exotic forge]

Even with the wording, it's possible that it won't proc Avatar

I could be wrong

[verbal tangle]

Avatar from Thane is granted not cast

[exotic forge]

But it's been the case before

[fickle forge]

Prot sucks whether it works or not

End of story

[verbal tangle]

Cope

[exotic forge]

I'll be a happy man in pve if it does work

I can go colo for once

[green wharf]

say

if i get 2100 rank in a class that cant use 2h

can i still buy the weapon appearences

and get the mog

or nay

[fickle forge]

They need to rework arms to be a hard hitting spec again

[exotic forge]

Only the ones you can equip

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7107264540211859015

[exotic forge]

We've been saying this for 2 years man

[exotic forge]

Just get it with Warr, you can get everything but glaives

[green wharf]

then i will not push ratting on my warlock

[green wharf]

or hunter

both are 1800

[fickle forge]

Keep saying it till it happens

[green wharf]

my lock was 1970

[exotic forge]

I'm doing my best but I'm tired boss

[exotic forge]

You can be a Chad or a POOSY, up to you

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[fickle forge]

None of this MS reset shit and Exe from 100% HP

Make my abilities slap

[exotic forge]

MAGA = Makes Arms Great Again

[green wharf]

cleave -> arms
whirlwind -> fury
thunderclap -> prot

[lavish quest]

So does arms

[lavish quest]

You can buy all

Pretty sure

[green wharf]

conflicting informations

[lavish quest]

In DF I bought multiple 2400 warglaives and wands on my warrior and kept em in my bank till TWW and I got those appearances

[lavish quest]

The difference is, I'm smart

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

Also, I got 2100 this season already. Pretty sure I got the wand n warglaive. It was a couple months back tho

Rough memory

If I were unemployed I could tell you right now. But alas, I work for "the man."

[fickle forge]

Arms is okay rn

[lavish quest]

War can't use wand either

But we can learn em all now

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

But we have to account for warrior bias you see.
When warrior is C tier, everyone considers them omega S tier. So when people consider it "okay" in reality it's "shit."
The math tracks, trust 🙏

[fickle forge]

I've heard enough about math man

I'm tired

😫

[lavish quest]

Whatever tf Zercher does, is not math

[fickle forge]

Striking at his professional life eh

[lavish quest]

God I hope his job isn't evaluating Vers's value

[exotic forge]

This is spot on ngl

[fierce elm]

Yall just playing a busted class

[green wharf]

says the paladin player

[sterile moth]

Warrior is fine, mostly fine

[wheat jay]

outlaw, paladin

[fierce elm]

Busted classe

[wheat jay]

im surprised you didnt roll bm

[green wharf]

relevant

[wheat jay]

meta reroller

[fierce elm]

Paladin was my main before this

checkmate

[wheat jay]

cap

[green wharf]

too complicated for him

[fierce elm]

Also can Outlaw have one season where its good lmao

[wheat jay]

you rolled paladin the second it was OP

O_O

[fierce elm]

The fuck

[wheat jay]

no

[fierce elm]

I came BACK after retpocalypse

[lavish quest]

Exactly

[wheat jay]

you came back BECAUSE of retpocalypse

[fierce elm]

wasnt that s2?

[lavish quest]

You rerolled after they became op

[wheat jay]

i dunno, you rolled after they became OP

[lavish quest]

No is was s1

[green wharf]

busted live

[fierce elm]

And I swapped Paladin fully in s4?

After coming back s3 on warrior

[fickle forge]

Stop.

[wheat jay]

i dont remember you coming back on warrior

ngl

[fierce elm]

I did play warrior in 2s in s3

[wheat jay]

i remember you playing warr in shadowlands

[fierce elm]

that was about it

[wheat jay]

after that its ret

[fierce elm]

Hit 2100 in 2s then season was over lmao

[lavish quest]

Afro somehow became more of a meta reroller than Artji

Smh

[fierce elm]

Because I came back late af

[green wharf]

i heard they are removing stealth from outlaw rogues, cause pirates dont sneak

[fickle forge]

Afro acting like outlaw hasn't been dominating for 2 expansions now

[fierce elm]

I want that

I DONT KNOW HOW GOOD OUTLAW IS IN EVERY OTHER SEASON

[green wharf]

FOTM afro

[fierce elm]

I know this is a public discord but not everything has to be argue ya dumbfucks lmao

[fickle forge]

'Can rogue be good for one season 🤓'

[fierce elm]

From my understanding Outlaw has generally been below Assa/sub since forever

Based on my personal experience playing BfA/SL

not counting 2s

[fickle forge]

Remember when we were memeing on Artji for rolling FotM "before he knew it was broken"

Turns out Afro is the same

[fierce elm]

Oh no I rerolled Outlaw when it was broken

I aint claiming I didnt lmao

[fickle forge]

'Before you knew it was'

[lavish quest]

EU bros and fotm rerolling 🤔

[fierce elm]

I had like 2 specs to pick from tbh

Because I wont play DK/DH

so it was either Outlaw/Enhance

its a lose lose situation

3 with Windwalker

[fickle forge]

I mean you won't play anything but ret/outlaw

[green wharf]

no, cause shamans are chad

[fierce elm]

so 3 specs

I cant help that Outlaw is fun

Because it truly is fun

[fickle forge]

That's fine

[green wharf]

enhance = manly
outlaw = pussy

[fierce elm]

And I aint denying Outlaw busted

[fickle forge]

Can you master it now

[fierce elm]

but I had 3 specs to pick from lmao

And it was Enhance/WW/Outlaw

[fickle forge]

It's so volatile to choose to only play outlaw though

And not assassa and sub

[fierce elm]

So the only non-busted spec woulda been WW

I am a volatile person

[fickle forge]

Outlaw is either the hottest garbage or the hottest shit

[fierce elm]

I mean I aint touching sub

Maybe assa but I dont think I would enjoy it honestly

For the same reasons I wouldnt enjoy feral either

Pistol shot/bte is pure dopamine

RtB is gamba and I love it

[fickle forge]

How is pistol shot dopamine

I've seen outlaw numbers bro

[fierce elm]

Multi-shot sound goes wild in brain

[fickle forge]

You hit for like 200k per global

[fierce elm]

Hence, dopamine hit

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

You seem very aggressive for someone forced to heal lmao

[fickle forge]

This you lil' bro?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1223649170007523500/1323031946099425341/image.png?ex=67750344&is=6773b1c4&hm=3e60d50bef361fdf8ce71f2c07413b6fb6b466a5a93458a52645cef3ede1525e&

[fickle forge]

I gotta get with the healer vibes

And scream at my dps players for being dog

[lavish quest]

What wrong with DK or DH huh?

[fickle forge]

It's part of the mindset

[fierce elm]

DK feels off to me

Never liked DH

[lavish quest]

Not op huh

Understood

[fierce elm]

Its just something about the animations

and how damage is delivered

that just feels iff

Along with sound design

Can never like it

[green wharf]

not delivered by the millions

[fierce elm]

Its just something

[lavish quest]

"Guys, I had to play the OP, I never really had a choice."

[fierce elm]

And leveling Enhance rn

I mean there are only so many specs in the game that one would want to play lmao

[lavish quest]

Quote by Afro or Artji, could be a game now

[fierce elm]

Cant play Warrior due to Kargish

[lavish quest]

Isn't he healing?

[fierce elm]

Gotta play a melee compatible with warrior, or compatible with Ele

[wheat jay]

cuz i play whats fun

[fierce elm]

He doesnt wanna heal

[wheat jay]

rn i play survi and dh

[fierce elm]

he wants to play warrior

[wheat jay]

both are dogshit 😦

[fierce elm]

Cant play ret/warr because everyone finds it boring

was offered to play x/ele

So leveled Outlaw

Now Kargish doesnt wanna heal

[fickle forge]

Eyo that ain't true

[lavish quest]

Just play ret war anyways nerd

[fierce elm]

So our choice is to play Turbo

[fickle forge]

I am healing alright

[fierce elm]

so I need to level my enhance

[wheat jay]

or kargish cna play enh

like in shadowlands

[fierce elm]

WW/Warr would be okay

[fierce elm]

Then I have to play warrior

[fickle forge]

I just don't want my warr to stagnate cause I need that itch scratched man

[wheat jay]

yes

[fierce elm]

and I dont wanna play warrior lmao

[wheat jay]

lmao

relatable

[fierce elm]

Flat out dont wanna play warrior

[wheat jay]

i dont wnana play warr either ngl

its ass

so fucking boring

[fierce elm]

So my choices that remain as it stands eight now is WW/Enhance

[fickle forge]

This is why I am the last true Chad of this group

The last remaining arms warrior

[fierce elm]

And if I am gonna play with a warrior I am not playing WW

its all very simple

[fickle forge]

My fucking god man can you just stick to outlaw

[fierce elm]

So, Enhance it is

lmao

No because you bitch so much about having to heal

[wheat jay]

the last remaining masochist

[lavish quest]

Doesn't war rogue blow?

[fierce elm]

and a guy doesnt get some time to learn his shit

[fickle forge]

That's so cap

[fierce elm]

Its okay

[wheat jay]

its like kfc

[frank knoll]

Isn’t it volatile to play Enhance too
I remember enhance being unplayable

[fickle forge]

Not long ago ya'll would be praising this commitment

[fierce elm]

Kargish just needs to stop hitting shockwave constantly and I need to get better at dealing damage as outlaw

[fierce elm]

it is lmao

[frank knoll]

Enhance slaps rn

[fierce elm]

But yeah thats how I ended on Outlaw kek

Because I was told we could play ele/x

[fickle forge]

I pop when I pop, deal with it

[fierce elm]

Yeah then dont complain that I cant fucking full kidney

Or cheap shot

[lavish quest]

Yeah, but warrior will never be good again

[fierce elm]

or give you 10% extra damage lmao

[fickle forge]

That's James who complains

[frank knoll]

Enhance good for shuffle/solo play imo
Probably one of the best specs for that

[lavish quest]

All the testosterone left Blizzard years ago

So they all hate warrior

[fickle forge]

It's only 5% but okay

[fierce elm]

So yeah my ret is cucked

[wheat jay]

i do respect it

[fierce elm]

Sorry, 5% extra damage

[frank knoll]

Played an outlaw on my enhance last night
Kept killing himself with my CS totem then rage messaged me after

[wheat jay]

doesnt change the fact that playing arms is masochism now

[fierce elm]

So we are playing Outlaw/fury rn

[fickle forge]

Ya'll are copers

If they buffed Execute on arms it'd easily compete

[fierce elm]

He gets one game on arms

before we force him to swap fury

[frank knoll]

Got my Arms to like 1600 and called it a day
0 reason to play Arms, and I can’t stand fury rn

[fossil mortar]

To be fair, warrior did blast before the burst for Fury was gutted
So balance team prob hates warrior, the dev? Nah

[wheat jay]

warr is just

weird

slow

unfun

[fierce elm]

Refusing to play ranged specs CUCKS spec choices

[fickle forge]

Look man the reason why we're doing this now is because James is in love with disc again after we did beast cleave with @wheat jay

[frank knoll]

Every lobby is was Frost mage/Devoker etc

[lavish quest]

Can't do that, everyone would cry

[fierce elm]

You cried about healing so much

brother bear

[wheat jay]

REAL

[fierce elm]

”I WANNA PLAY WARRIOR MAN”

[lavish quest]

We have to create a safe space for mages instead

[fierce elm]

Constantly

[green wharf]

isnt survival super strong

[wheat jay]

my survi just built different

[wheat jay]

I wish ;__;

[fierce elm]

it is

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cap-gif-5020343649222709969

[wheat jay]

survi is ass

[frank knoll]

I’d actually look forward to a BM/Feral lobby when I was trying to play warrior

[fierce elm]

”I WANNA PLAY MY WARRIOR GET YOUR SHAMAN TO 80”

”OH MY GOD LETS PLAY RET/WARR FOR 1 GAME”

[green wharf]

on the hunter discord everone say surv is busted, but hard to play

[wheat jay]

even in 2s survi isnt doing too well

[fierce elm]

Survi is good

Ass compared to BM but so is every spec

[fickle forge]

Yes bro, I want to occasionally play my OTP class

[frank knoll]

Sv has like 7 rotational damage doing ability super counter intuitive

[fickle forge]

That'd be nice

[wheat jay]

cap, its hard to play, so noone bothers to play it except mains of it playing it for 10 years now lol

[fierce elm]

Yeah and id love to play ret

but see where that has got us

[wheat jay]

and they make it look somewhat good, because they're all r1s monsters of the game lmao

[fickle forge]

Then what the fuck, you know a hunter man bro @wheat jay

[fierce elm]

Yeah I aint playing with Artji

lmao

[fickle forge]

Zzzzzz

[frank knoll]

You have to be autistic like Bicmex to go high with Survival

[fierce elm]

If I wanted to play zero coms I would play blitz or SS

[wheat jay]

we tried it already with afro

we never won any games cuz we couldnt finish the target

[fierce elm]

Getting 1 trap call out every 10th game

[wheat jay]

cuz afro plays more defensively than me

[green wharf]

thats what im saying surv is super OP, but who know how to play this shit

me not

[fierce elm]

If Artji can find words we could play

[fickle forge]

You have to call shit out for Artji, but the problem is you're the same Afro
So we just have 2 introverts not communicating or calling shots

[wheat jay]

its just "not dogshit" when you know how to play it, not OP

[wheat jay]

eyo last time i did well on comms xD

[fierce elm]

Except I call out my shit constantly

[fickle forge]

CAP

[fierce elm]

Because I know the importance of calling out Kidney

[wheat jay]

HOJ TREANT HOJ TREANT POPPING CDS

[fierce elm]

But the issue is that my shit is always 2nd character

”Ah yes play with Arms where my choice is to follow him around”

[fickle forge]

The one thing I hear James cry about is how his outlaw ain't calling kill targets

Lmao

[fierce elm]

”Ah yes Ele where my goal is to set him. up”

Can I get SOME FUCKING XP ON MY SPEC

[wheat jay]

with me you could have set up EVERY single trap with hoj for a very long cc

[fierce elm]

ITS HARD OKAY

[wheat jay]

you never did 😦

[fickle forge]

Lmao

Outlaw is hard yeah ngl

[fierce elm]

I cant help that everything I played pre this was easy as fuck

THIS REQUIRES A BRAIN

[wheat jay]

outlaw is the most flaccid spec in the game

[fierce elm]

My first season on a new spec is always 1800-2k anyways

then next season I always hit 2.4

[fickle forge]

The copium man

[fierce elm]

First season ret: 1860

[wheat jay]

i dunno afro sounds like skill issue

[fierce elm]

next season ret: 2500

[wheat jay]

my first season on survi i got glad

get clapped

[fierce elm]

First season warr was 2600 so idk

[green wharf]

i dont mean its dogshit, i said shit instead of "this thing", but its right now the stronger hunter spec

[fierce elm]

Yeah in SL

[wheat jay]

yes

[fierce elm]

good luck playing a new spec right now

hitting glad on it

[wheat jay]

i did roll new spec, dh

[fierce elm]

That shit aint happening

[wheat jay]

and played at like 2300mmr first season

[fierce elm]

I will gladly take my 2k on Outlaw this season

[fickle forge]

Don't make me pick up outlaw and beat you in a day bro

[fierce elm]

lmao

[wheat jay]

survi stronger hunter spec?

[fierce elm]

you wont level anyways

[wheat jay]

in what world?

its outclassed by bm on every front lmao

[green wharf]

in the world of warcraft

[fickle forge]

You got me there

[green wharf]

got em

[fierce elm]

Now we stuck with outlaw/ret/warr/hpala

[wheat jay]

doesnt do highest dps

doesnt have best cc

is 50/50 melee

[fierce elm]

But yeah, hitting glad on a new spec right now when you arent a glad player AINT HAPPENING

[wheat jay]

doesnt have burst to oneshot

[green wharf]

im just parroting what the top hunters there said

[wheat jay]

like, its a consistent dps spec

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

clowns smh

[fierce elm]

Seen survival do some crazy shit tbh

[wheat jay]

ye

cuz it can do crazy shit

cuz its high ceiling spec with biggest toolkit in the game

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to go Assa next season when its busted

Because Outlaw cant have SHIT

[wheat jay]

but that toolkit is average of everything, nothing spectacular on any front

xD

[fierce elm]

Now my ret is just an SS character

Retired

gone out back and put down

Go ele and we can play main comp @fickle forge

[wheat jay]

Kekw

[fickle forge]

I am an enh sham god

Stop pretending enh+outlaw ain't a comp

Loveless Qs enh+rogue every season

[torn sigil]

how to play vs sv in arena?

is it a disarm sitch?

[wheat jay]

If we can q enh survi then you can q enh outlaw lol

[wheat jay]

Disarm kinda good, stops half the dmg

Not that amazing tho

Just nuke it

Nuke nuke nuke

[torn sigil]

i havvent played srs arena since mop so

i dnno how specs have changed

just tunnel him? hes main target?

[wheat jay]

in 2s

by design you lose

hit whatever is close, usually hunter

[torn sigil]

yyes 2s

thoughht so

ty

[fierce elm]

Then lets queue that the fuck

[frank knoll]

You guys ever get tired of playing the same 100 guys and their alts on the ladder

[urban skiff]

I'd have to be somewhere high on the ladder for that to happen lol

[fierce elm]

Not really tbh

[fierce elm]

Doesnt just Outlaw bring what Enhance is missing in CC

[frank knoll]

Earlier this season when I faced Venruki on his priest at like 1800 I was like “yep I’m sticking to shuffle”

[urban skiff]

enh isn't missing cc, it's just missing a ms effect

[fierce elm]

I mean, surely giving a guaranteed CC would help a ton

along with MS

such as yknow, kidney/sap/blind/cheap/gouge

[frank knoll]

Don’t need an MS when you 100-0 people during ascendance

[fickle forge]

Fury+outlaw is what we do now

[fierce elm]

lmao

BUT IT SUCKS

[fickle forge]

The lockin phase for comps has ended

[fierce elm]

I HATE EVERYTHING BEING DR

[fickle forge]

Shut up you fossil

We're playing TWW

Not Shadowlands

Goes are a thing of the past

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to Kidney/cheap DR even MORE than I already do

[fickle forge]

Now we throw out 20 stuns and do max damage

[torn sigil]

Is Mastery arms still a thing? I enjoyed a bit of it during df

[fierce elm]

Not really, or somewhat

arms is somewhat balanced in their stats

outside of crit really

[torn sigil]

Hmm ok ty

Would there be like a haste cap I should hit before stacking Mastery or something like that?

Sorry if this was asked before btw was just curious to try mix it up a bit

Seems like pretty much everyone is just stacking haste so I'm wondering if I should even bother lol

[urban skiff]

I'll take ms and maybe smokebomb over those others anyday

[fierce elm]

Wouldnjust slam a ton lf haste honestly

https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/3v3 is a good guideline of sll of this

Unfortunately smokebomb sucks into a ton of specs 😦

[urban skiff]

I don't like static totem but if I had a smokebomb totem I'd go that every time

[fierce elm]

disgusting

[torn sigil]

Smokebomb and Ms are the last things enhancer should ever get lmao

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Ya'll afraid of what I'd do with that kind of power

Bet I could even get to 1830 rating

I know it's a long shot

[torn sigil]

Are you playing shuffle or 2s to try get 1800?