pvp

[green wharf]

you more likely end up dead before getting all the stacks

[verbal tangle]

Prot Col

[green wharf]

and you need colossus smah+avatar+dragon roar to deal the big bonk that rly hurt

you either die before that, use your burst before, or the enemy die before it

[green wharf]

prot thane is much more fun and useful IMO

cleave rly hurts in TF, thane execute is giga buffed

[verbal tangle]

Thane is better if you can't get uptime

But with Shield Slams being consistently refunded into ranged comps I find Col better

[north thicket]

Got it, thanks, will give up on Arms Col waste of time

[fierce elm]

wise decision

[rancid granite]

not a waste of time if you enjoy it

[fierce elm]

If you enjoy col you need therapy

[rancid granite]

WoW is my therapy

[fickle forge]

Gets better if you get better

Just don't play it into comps you can't cleave vs

[fierce elm]

Ya boy just got his student loan approved

Gon walk in with the bruto mount now

[verbal tangle]

Bro about to get a Ph.D in finessing the AH market

[rancid granite]

lmao

grats afro

[sterile moth]

@north thicket Don’t give up, it’s a blast to play and super tanky. I made duelist last night as col arms.

[rancid granite]

maybe give up spear talent though

[fickle forge]

Nah I think you should play Spear with it

It's too powerful

[sterile moth]

I didn’t like spear personally but meh

[fickle forge]

Hitting those 3M Mortal Strikes is crazy strong

[rancid granite]

maybe im just not used to playing it so it feels clunky to me

[sterile moth]

Yeah, 100%. Building up overpower and execute stacks plus sharpen you hit some huge MS

[fickle forge]

It can feel that way if you try to fish too hard for the Demo one shot

[sterile moth]

I just sit stacks mostly and use demo in mini go situations where it can sorta function as a pseudo execute

[fickle forge]

I hit Demo whenever I can get it off

[rancid granite]

do you go with warlords torment too then

[fickle forge]

Yes

[rancid granite]

ILL TRY IT AGAIN TOO

you can tell everyone wants col to work so badly

i hear the word and its like ehh ill give it another shot

[sterile moth]

lol yep

[fickle forge]

If you can actually pull off the whole burst, then it's pretty nutty

[sterile moth]

I can’t keep my warrior alive in shuffle as fury

[urban skiff]

ignore stacks tbh, just use them for big overpower crits

[sterile moth]

Sweeping strikes BS and basically full stacks again

[fickle forge]

Colossus only really works when you can cleave onto something

[sterile moth]

@urban skiff I swear to god OP hits 20% less now

[green wharf]

basically, is an arena spec, not a blitz one

[urban skiff]

colossus is hella fun in blitz

[rancid granite]

i found col working even better in blitz but thats only me at 1800

[fickle forge]

Not unless you're constantly team fighting no

[urban skiff]

Remember demolish is an aoe on final hit, not a strike that cleaves, and you're halfway to having way more fun with colossus arms

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

You back to the game yet?

[elfin surge]

im a battleground bleh enjoyer

[fickle forge]

Where arena my guy?

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

Thought you were Q'ing turbo now or something

[floral widget]

same

[elfin surge]

na

might q tsg this weekend

not rly motivated to push arena yet

[fickle forge]

Frost or unholy?

[elfin surge]

what do you think bro

[urban skiff]

obviously frost, we need those F-tier to show who's boss

[floral widget]

LMAO

[fickle forge]

He won't Q with you brother

[urban skiff]

I should be posting these on r/worldofpvp, they need way more fun in there and less brooding

[fickle forge]

He got a hunter babe now

[urban skiff]

i tried begging and crying but my wife won't play bm hunter

[floral widget]

ima go follow this one rn lol

dont notice

[urban skiff]

feel free to post the meme there, I don't own it and I think it's kinda fun

[fickle forge]

Try doing that for @wheat jay

[urban skiff]

my skin thoo thin to expose my artistic side to redditors

[fickle forge]

Uh oh

[urban skiff]

kinda hilarious how this post gets so much engagement and their other videos don't

just check these replies!

[fickle forge]

Nobody really likes Skillcapped tbh

[urban skiff]

people put so much effort into replying to that one

[urban skiff]

I like them

[fickle forge]

I used to like them

[urban skiff]

I mean, I mostly do the opposite of whatever they say but I still like them

[fickle forge]

But these days Skillcapped is just another tier list maker channel for me

[urban skiff]

I think they're a solid entry into the pvp scene for someone who wants curated content and are starting from zero.

And their tier lists are great meta knowledge for me to know what players in my bracket are going to be doing

[fickle forge]

I really do think people overcomplicate PvP though

Saying you need to try out every class is giga cap

[urban skiff]

If skillcapped says "Always focus the enhancement shaman" then I know I need to adjust and pop defensives earlier and pick more kite tools. It's like free insight if not straight up mind reading on my bracket

[fickle forge]

Yeah thing is, Skillcapped players aren't bad

They're R1s all of them

But I don't particularily like their content

[urban skiff]

yeah, what I mean is, the people who watch skillcapped videos are mostly around my bracket

[fickle forge]

Yeah and that's fair

[urban skiff]

so if I watch their tier lists, I can adjust to meta changes without having to get the knowledge first hand through queues

[fickle forge]

A lot of it is just bloated shit though

We going to see warr+outlaw comps now, because Skillcapped said it was a good comp in their latest video?

[urban skiff]

And tbh, I have occasionally learned a thing or two, by accident.

I accept skillcapped for what it is, I don't think they pretend to be anything their harshest critics think they claiim to be.

[urban skiff]

that would be fun tbh

[fickle forge]

I wouldn't know what they claim they are

But I don't think SC is that accurate outside top of the top

[urban skiff]

Enh + outlaw isn't something I really expected to be a good comp but now I might try it with the wife, if I can convince her to drop sub

[fickle forge]

We got kitty cleave and batman cleave marked as top 3 comps for warr

But I sure as hell haven't seen anyone play that

[fickle forge]

Enh + rogue is actually a stable comp

Has been for many seasons

It used to be sub + enh for a while

Outlaw just does what sub does, but better right now

[urban skiff]

if I wanted you to write a couple of arguments for why she should switch to outlaw over sub, having already farmed sub gear, what would you say?

[fickle forge]

More CC, only slightly worse burst, literally unkillable whereas sub dies like a dog, way better mobility

Outlaw rn does what sub used to do, it puts the whole team in CC and then their other dps pops them

[wheat jay]

His wife is a chad

For refusing bm

[sterile moth]

We can demolish while bladestorming next patch. Woot. No more interrupted demos

[green wharf]

spec = saved

[fickle forge]

Just imagine lmao

[sterile moth]

So much crying inc

CS, BS, stormbolt, demo

Wonder if you can use it while moving then?

[urban skiff]

uuuuuugh PTR when

[fickle forge]

I thought we were joking ya'll

[rapid shore]

how?

[floral widget]

yall guys know any streamer that plat with fury?

[urban skiff]

bajheera i guess?

@elfin surge do you stream and play with fury?

[elfin surge]

I havent streamed in months breh

[urban skiff]

how are you even surviving with no streamer income?

OF?

[sterile moth]

@rapid shore you have to take storm of destruction

[elfin surge]

omg its almost like i have a full time job outside of wow

[rapid shore]

oh

[urban skiff]

yuck

[urban skiff]

I don't get it

[fickle forge]

Bruh

[fickle forge]

That ain't meaning we can Demo while BS

Lmfao

[urban skiff]

It's not bladestorm during demolish. It's demolish does MS effect

[fickle forge]

You get the slow and MS

[urban skiff]

and i guess big-ass slow

[rapid shore]

yep lol

[urban skiff]

Knowing blizz it's probably only third hit

since it's aoe

[fickle forge]

Man's out here cooking recipes that aren't real

[rapid shore]

:D

[fickle forge]

Also can we talk about this trinket here

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1322224993957839019/image.png?ex=6770197c&is=676ec7fc&hm=cced1d6ef7606233f6c5460b5be9d77f1f9005788de2ca56417af1a48fd02336&

What are we doing Blizzard

[sterile moth]

Hmmm that sucks then. Sorry guys,

[floral widget]

ty

[urban skiff]

np m8, we're all here to improve as a group

finding secret tech is part of it

[sterile moth]

I mean it’s still good, 60% slow will@keep them from running out of it

Especially since sharpen isn’t QUITE as good

[urban skiff]

if it's first hit on 3rd

[urban skiff]

boy are you going to hate this thing I'm about to say

Storm of destruction applies the mortal wounds debuff

which is nerfed by 50% in pvp

So storm of destruction just applies your regular MS effect

at 25% effect (which is the full effect in pvp outside sharpen)

[floral widget]

u play arms?

[urban skiff]

Right now, yeah

fury is bordering on unplayable with kt human and my other warrior is prot/colossus arms

[green wharf]

Fury is the only good dps war

[urban skiff]

nah

There's less than 20 rating difference between top arms and top fury in shuffle

[green wharf]

Seven fury at 2700+ while only one arm at 2700

arms is only above fury in blitzz

and are all slayers

[urban skiff]

i don't get why that matters

[rancid granite]

4x grapple hook, and gun burst spam, and sword mogs

[urban skiff]

are we telling lies now?

[rancid granite]

wonder how many would get same rating if they swapped to arms tho

[green wharf]

then they lost rating brother

murlok updated right now

this is shuffle

[urban skiff]

looks like i'm only looking at eu leaderboards

[urban skiff]

murlok only updates every 12 hours

[floral widget]

damn lmao

[green wharf]

it updated to me when i open the site

[urban skiff]

kinda funny, on EU enh is non-existant above 2700

on US it's all ENH

[steep stirrup]

What would be the best mix for double warrior in 2s? Right now we are running colossus prot and colossus arms and the arms warrior keeps getting blown up.

[fickle forge]

I mean it's 1 guy on enh

And his 15 alts

[fickle forge]

It'd be to not play double warr in 2s

[urban skiff]

it's at least two, saul is not Bigdam

and mmr is also a different person

I'm not 100% on saul not being bigdam but idk anymore

[steep stirrup]

[urban skiff]

also bigdam has at least 20 alts that are ranking, that I know of

[rancid granite]

maybe he should change his name to bigdum

[urban skiff]

probably his warrior alt tbh

[rancid granite]

lol.

[elfin surge]

double warrior holyyyy

how do you even win as that lol

[rancid granite]

double death wish

run in and 1 shot

[steep stirrup]

Bodyguard and Intervene pvp talents to try and keep the arms alive and getting lucky with demolish lmao

[urban skiff]

Coordinate your big burst very tightly and be ready to help him run so second wind can pick him back up.

[urban skiff]

first big stun wins

[elfin surge]

ya double warrior in 2s is probably the absolute worst thing you could play

[fickle forge]

Are you guys even able to stack up Demolish before you die

[exotic forge]

It's one in a million

Demolish applying MS and slowing I okay but I'd prefer it granting full immunity to all cc

Cuz, yknow, disorients n shit

[steep stirrup]

usually by the time the arms dies mine is stacked up and I can pick one off and 1v1 the other one

shield charge > demolish > execute is usually enough to one shot someone and they usually stop trying once the arms dies

[fickle forge]

I mean it's definitely not a thing

There's no optimal way to play that

[elfin surge]

bro mains prot for pvp

[exotic forge]

He lost

[urban skiff]

You can cast shield charge during demolish, so you can time the two hours to land at the same time

[steep stirrup]

my teammate was pissed when he dumped conquest for a shield just to realize you cant que as double tank lmao

[fickle forge]

Yeah ya'll deserve nothing ngl

[exotic forge]

Why would you que as tank to begin with

[steep stirrup]

idk, prot/arms worked better for us than fury/arms

[fickle forge]

What mmr ya'll playing on?

[steep stirrup]

where we belong, the 1400s

[elfin surge]

i mean lol

1400 as that

about as high as you can go

[elfin surge]

warriors are locked to playing with healers

just how the class is designed

[exotic forge]

Team players all the way

You do big damage while someone heals ya

[fickle forge]

It's honestly higher than I thought ya'll would make it to

[green wharf]

it feels like this is the case only for arms

[elfin surge]

you think fury can play 2s without a healer?

[green wharf]

i mean

better than arms

[fickle forge]

Nah it can't

The only double dps comps that work in 2s are either CC+burst heavy or insane off-healing

[verbal tangle]

Prot actually claps kids

Also Bodyguard into melee comps

[urban skiff]

Bodyguard into melee is cool, but clap root is just such trolling move.

[verbal tangle]

Clap Root into a fat Demo

[sand sundial]

2.2k

[sand sundial]

Turbo kinda works actually.. Don't expect to get too far tho

[boreal veldt]

kinda why i just enjoy blitz a lot more, 2 healers

[sand sundial]

Bro the proposed changes for 11.1 are kinda terrible

Barbarian gone, warbringer gone

And the dragon charge seems terrible, replacing heroic leap too???

Was +%10 stam worth it lol

[boreal veldt]

don't talk about warbringer, i died on a hill defending it in here like 3 weeks ago

[elfin surge]

the last time warrior had a viable double dps comp for 2s was shadowlands s2/s3

good times...

[sand sundial]

I will die with you

[boreal veldt]

my brotha

🤝

[sand sundial]

🤝

[urban skiff]

Turbo works as long as they target the shaman 🙃

[urban skiff]

They're cutting back on mobility for warrior. I hope it's so they can finally roll back how much gap makers mage has access to. So other melee and ranged classes can play the game too

At least they murdered mage barrier so we can rip into mages when we connect now

[boreal veldt]

that new zerker war banner goes kinda hard

[green wharf]

didnt they remove warbringer

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

they are cutting the mobility of the class that is well know for shit mobility ?

also another reason slayer>colosus

the charge freing root

[verbal tangle]

Or Charge & Leap reducing each other's CD

[boreal veldt]

did they ever fix the momentum thing with dragon charge + dragon warrior?

where you could send it full map?

[verbal tangle]

No, but you will lose Leap to do shit like that

[boreal veldt]

idk that sounds worth it for some memes

just don't stand near edges if you ain't got leap

[verbal tangle]

Dragon Charge their team at roundstart

[boreal veldt]

diabolical

[green wharf]

they nerfed dragon charge too

[urban skiff]

Like what?

[green wharf]

like what what

[urban skiff]

I mean, warrior is hardly known for shit mobility

main complaint number 1 is that warrior is too mobile

from non-warriors, mages and maybe druids are the reason we don't feel very mobile but there's a loooot of classes that aren't mages or druids who we're just oppressing

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-1807502725802114204

the only class with more shit mobility than wars are dks and warlocks

[urban skiff]

lmao

what about shaman?

[green wharf]

and dks now have the horse

shaman can just attack ranged

[urban skiff]

are priest mobile?

[verbal tangle]

Priests are ranged

[green wharf]

priests are immortal

[urban skiff]

tell me how mobile hpal is

[urban skiff]

he listed warlock, all classes are a go

despite warlock having stupid great mobility

[green wharf]

paladins ahve that fucking seal that make then immune to slow and root

and the horse charges

lol

[verbal tangle]

BoP, Charger

[green wharf]

hpals were a fucking pain in the ass when i was climbing shuffle

even ret get that too

[urban skiff]

warrior has more mobility than paladin

you just won't feel it unless you play a non-warrior

[fickle forge]

Turbo is one of the best cleaves rn

[sharp meteor]

No shot you tryna q double warr no healer

[urban skiff]

yup

[green wharf]

soomeone ban this man

[sharp meteor]

that ain't even good for chill cap mmr

[urban skiff]

but this was for 2s where you're turbo no heals

[verbal tangle]

I mean, he's not exactly wrong

We still have good movement

[fickle forge]

Nope.

[sharp meteor]

30 min q to suffer vs good specs smh

[verbal tangle]

Our movement is just interruptible as shit

[fickle forge]

What

[urban skiff]

Warrior has fine mobility..i don't ever hear warriors envy shaman mobility

[verbal tangle]

I mean shaman is either a caster or clicking Ascendance to be a caster

[urban skiff]

I thi k they know deep down warrior is fine. They just grew up on having all the extra shit like executioner condemn

[urban skiff]

It's a 2 min cd, and its not always the best time to use it lines up with when you're being rooted behind a pillar.

Actually pretty rare, that happens.

[green wharf]

that was too recent to even be that big in people mind

and almost no one played shadowlands

[urban skiff]

Bro are you high? It feels like you sometimes input whatever is real into chatgpt and ask it to reverse everything into nonsense.

[verbal tangle]

I started War in S3 SL lmao

Death Sentence > Da Dick was yuge

[green wharf]

shadowlands was the record of all time low subs

[urban skiff]

Fuck i miss condemn executioner or whatever it was called.

I played crit condemn while everyone was still heavily into haste spear

[green wharf]

if it wasnt for classic wrath subs would go to 2m

[urban skiff]

Bull

[verbal tangle]

BfA was, we have the chart

As much as SL was bad it wasn't BfA bad

[green wharf]

bfa and shadowlands hit the botton, but BFA spiked high again with classic

shadowlands went low until DF

[urban skiff]

Sl wasn't even bad for pvp. I don't think the pvp population is ever truly capable of letting go and not playing, so it's mostly going to be a constant pvp participation regardless of how popular an expansion is with pve'ers.

[urban skiff]

Blizzard don't ever release those numbers, so where is this even from?

[rapid shore]

somekind of developer event

not a new one

[green wharf]

Games Developer Conference (GDC) presentation by Senior Vice President and General Manager of the Warcraft franchise John Hight,

[rapid shore]

ye, that one :D

[green wharf]

i didnt remember how BFA hit rock botton as well, i knew it was going to be shit when they tried to cop mop story

and the azerite mechanic was awful

[urban skiff]

According to that graph legion was worse than shadowlands. And legion was fucking legendary

And bfa at its worst is above almost all of legion.

[green wharf]

shadowlands was only better at the start then fall off the cliff

Legion was after woD, guess good faith wasnt that high

i think it was pretty shite too

but i care more about story

[urban skiff]

WoD was an excellent expansion too.

My only bad expansion was tbc, despite doing a few good things it still kept way too much bad stuff from vanilla. Like specs locked into stupid roles no matter what you wanted to play

[verbal tangle]

TBC wars having to be Mace spec for Stun mace

[urban skiff]

Oh god, the garbage. Mace spec warrior and rogue. Mana burning hunters and warlocks. Only viable healer was resto druid.

What a shit experience.

[fickle forge]

WoD was really disliked by the general player though

[urban skiff]

For arenas anyways. I always preferred battle grounds

[urban skiff]

Story hook was goofy as hell but it introduced some actual mechanics to raids, dungeons were really interesting.

[rancid granite]

i quit at wotlk and kinda came back by bfa..... but looking at the expacs in between, WoD seems really out of place and boring

from an outside look i guess anyway

[urban skiff]

Having different starting zones? Brilliant. Having strongholds or whatever was fun too. Ashran was fucking epic.

AND GLADIATOR STANCE!!!

[green wharf]

The problem wod had was, that they cut the expansion in half and scrapped most of it to focus on Legion

they overused orcs as villains too, so people got bored quickly

not adding new races also, terrible mistake

it was the expansion to get my big ogre mage

[urban skiff]

That's always the problem. You can only cook so fast when dealing in IT production. The classic "one woman makes 1 baby in 9 months. How long does it take 9 women?"

[green wharf]

[rancid granite]

can't overuse orcs as villains

they still villain #1

[urban skiff]

I'm fine with orcs. I got more tired of all the green black purple aesthetics of demons. Was the best part of bfa, no more demons for a while.

[green wharf]

elves almost blew up the planet

twice

they worse

[rancid granite]

grew up on jrpgs so horde in general cliche bad guys

if i delve into the lore i just go 🙈 when i read about the elves

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fan-detected-opinion-rejected-gif-25772991

[verbal tangle]

Tbh I'd be playing Gunbreaker if FF14 didn't feel like shit to play

[urban skiff]

Gunlance in Lost Ark

[verbal tangle]

Lost Ark

[urban skiff]

it was a nice dream while it lasted

gunlance was fun as heck

game obviously turned into crazy korean grindfest but up until that point it was just fun

[verbal tangle]

It was always a crazy Korean grindfest

[green wharf]

the closest i got to a jrpg was shadow of colossus

[verbal tangle]

People just lied to themselves

[rancid granite]

you guys callin ff14 a grindfest?

[urban skiff]

well yeah, we got the game ages after they had perfected the grind

[urban skiff]

nah, Lost Ark

[rancid granite]

o yeah peak grindfest kmmo

[verbal tangle]

No I just call that a pile of shit

[rancid granite]

if ff14 had real pvp i'd ditch all of you for it

and if they did a complete overhaul of mechanics maybe

[urban skiff]

bro if FF14 didn't look so janky and if it was a good game and if I knew anybody who played it I'd ditch you all for it too

[rancid granite]

lol

[urban skiff]

A game that looks ugly, feels ugly, and isn't fun is just.. 😦

[green wharf]

if i had a ps5 i would totally ditch wow as well

[rancid granite]

ITS PRETTY but damn it has like no freedom of movement like wow has

[green wharf]

and if my grandma had two wheels she would be a bicycle

[verbal tangle]

I mean the only reason I want to play Gunbreaker is because I'm a filthy FF8 fanboy at heart

I know deep down FF14 is just shit though

[urban skiff]

reason I want to play lost ark gunlance is because it looks so much fun and i love gunlance in monsterhunter

tbh it's the perfect spot between diablo and wow and monster hunter

backhop is amazing

for mobilty

[verbal tangle]

Except it's Korean, therefore garbage

[urban skiff]

Korea is a fine place, if I don't have to visit

[verbal tangle]

[urban skiff]

I mean, I have two daughters and the people in Korea are really small. I'd lose my shit on the first sexist bullshit they try to pull and probably pull their arms off of something

Not in a violent way, just forgetting it's a nation that glorifies being severely underweight

[verbal tangle]

I mean it's not like the cops there can stop you either

No guns and they are damn near school kids most of the time

[urban skiff]

I assume it's the same as Japan, where you just get completely crucified if they have even the least bit of dirt on you that will stick

[boreal veldt]

ff8 still part of the golden age, still one of the goated ffs

[fickle forge]

We love enh sham death logs

[urban skiff]

so imma just hard pass on going, so I don't have to choose between defending my kids or not

[urban skiff]

why that death log look so weirid

[verbal tangle]

Alt codes I imagine

[urban skiff]

is that arcane + enh I'm looking at?

[fickle forge]

I killed a frost mage

[urban skiff]

aaah survival + enh

[jovial torrent]

lost ark was really cool especially the pvp was fun, but they just cant help themselves with timegated grindy gacha shit

[urban skiff]

this, a voice of reason

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

it's basically diablo 4 with a different skin and more skills. People trying to pass it off as a WoW didn't understand the assignment

[sand sundial]

Why do you assume people would be out to harass you lol most people in East Asia mind their business and only give you looks

[urban skiff]

Don't cheer, they're basically free kill for enh

[boreal veldt]

[jovial torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3GXMEKD2c

[urban skiff]

Not harass, just the opinions that women aren't people but brood sows seem to really saturate certain parts of the world. And I don't stand for it. And they don't hide it really well, they smile when they deliver "wellmeaning" advice on what women should be doing

[urban skiff]

Berserker played really nice, same as gunlance

I had a lot of fun in pvp

[boreal veldt]

me and a rog got absolutely rolled 2v1 against a single enh sham in a skirm, first time i wish i had details

[jovial torrent]

im trying to remember what i enjoyed, berserker for sure, and i think a teleportation frost mage thing was really fun too

[urban skiff]

sorry, that was me

oh wait you're US, nevermind not me

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

but I did do that recently

I wish nvidia app wasn't garbage so I could turn the clip thing back on and clip nice kills

But nooooo, they gotta make the filter eat up 10% frames despite being off

[verbal tangle]

I had a Chinese guy yapping to my sister a few days ago like that, didn't realize I was coming back from the shitter and piped the fuck down when he realized I stood head and shoulders over him

[urban skiff]

it's frustrating, isn't it?

[urban skiff]

pro moves tbh, but helpless against my superior gunlance

[urban skiff]

posting this again for awareness

[verbal tangle]

I mean, he's lucky I didn't beat his ass, the bartender and I are good friends

Dude would just had slipped.

[urban skiff]

I don't like fighting. I just hope people aren't calling my bluff

What's good on steam right now? Christmas sale and all

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-pose-girl-group-on-stage-cute-gif-17376042

[urban skiff]

BG3 is on sale, 20% off

guys go pick up one of the best games that ever was

[sharp meteor]

Skinny is bis.

[urban skiff]

Skinny is fine

[verbal tangle]

They are anorexic, not skinny

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eyeing-chloe-chloe-cute-huh-what-gif-17817419

[urban skiff]

Not necessarily. Anorexia requires it being an eating disorder and is classified by intense fear and body image problems.

In theory you can be severely underweight by choice without the mental issues.

Just like a bodybuilder can drop their bodyfat% to single digits by choice, despite it being extremely unhealthy

[boreal veldt]

bestlookingguyhere dot jpeg

[verbal tangle]

Perfection

[urban skiff]

Why is my head not doing math right now

Buy brutosaur for 78 euro, ez pz.

I can buy tokens with gold to get 13 euro a pop, or spend those 13 euro on gametime.

current subscription is 11 euro per month. So buy tokens for gold, turn into bnet cash, then buy with those. NOT turn into gametime, use freed up real money to buy longboi?

[green wharf]

damn this dinossaur

token skyrocketed

from 120k to nearly 300k

[urban skiff]

You think that's bad. I just blew my stock of vicious bloodstones this morning because i was tired of holding and they doubled in price over the day

178500g I'm missing out on per 100 I sold

I've been holding that stock for weeks

At least it's now worth blowing honor on bloodstones again

[verbal tangle]

Should have hodl'd

[urban skiff]

literally should have held just another day

bet you the price will go up even more tomorrow but I'm selling the other stock today

[verbal tangle]

Kek

[urban skiff]

ok what is actually even going on?

did they ban botters or something? there used to be literally tens of thousands of these for sale

[green wharf]

if you put too much obviouslly the prive will go down

[urban skiff]

now it's like 600?

only 2.7m gold to reset the price

[verbal tangle]

No balls

[urban skiff]

2.8 to reset to 1k

10k*

will buy me 609 of them. I will need to sell:

2800000/(10000*0,95)= 295 of them to turn profit

I could make an addon that calculated that number actually

shit the price is dropping fast, someone pushing like 15 at a time to AH

[verbal tangle]

Jesus Christ

[urban skiff]

every few seconds

This is the real pvp

[verbal tangle]

Kek

[urban skiff]

Ok it feels like I'm missing something crucial here

It's like the time I hit jackpot and happened to be on my enchanter when they released the hotfix that let us turn shards into dust

I made a million doing that as fast as I could until everybody discovered it

[verbal tangle]

Zercher we going to be auction house goblins?

[floral widget]

lol

buy some of them for 2.4k these days

[verbal tangle]

Actually, wait a fucking minute, auction house is regionwide right?

[urban skiff]

Yup, some fuckery is going on

[rancid granite]

it's fun to tease ff8 but i think it's objectively great

[verbal tangle]

[boreal veldt]

ff8 soundtrack is my go-to vibe music

[urban skiff]

so I put some up to see what's going on and there's a soft barrier now preventing people from resetting up to 4.2k

There's a war between two goblins right now, by the looks of it?

oooooooooooh

I think the AH lag is back

[verbal tangle]

Blare Force Your Way at max volume on Arms :

[floral widget]

dudes

[urban skiff]

So price shoots up because people cancel-posting aren't getting the items back fast enough to undercut

[fierce elm]

I sold stuff at 3k sadge

[verbal tangle]

[boreal veldt]

my haste is so low i be blasting the balamb garden theme

[verbal tangle]

[floral widget]

can someone explain why put 2 keybind for the same skill? thats bc of some spec change?

[verbal tangle]

Party Member 1/Party Member 2

Or Focus vs Cursor

Idk, he should be explaining it

[floral widget]

nice]

[boreal veldt]

his stormbolt is probably cursor/focus

[verbal tangle]

Warsculptor chest with da fur + Lionheart = Login

[urban skiff]

odds that i can move 37418 of these at 1g before someone tanks the price again?

[boreal veldt]

👀

[urban skiff]

total supply gone from 600 to 1k and people undercutting. They're racing to sell their stock before the price drops, which ironically drops the price

And here I thought I could wrap up creature commandos and open wow christmas presents with the wife

[sour crag]

Best pairing in 2s as Slayer Fury?

[floral widget]

pally

[sour crag]

Holy?

[fierce elm]

disc or hpala

nothing else

[sour crag]

Hpalas seem to die quicker or more vulberable than disc tho

At least in my experience

[floral widget]

i like go 2s wit retri tbh

[fierce elm]

Hpala or disc

nothing else

unless you are going LFG

then take the first one that shows up

[fickle forge]

Don't play double dps 2s

[sour crag]

Yeah I am a pretty lonely guy with no pvp pals 😄

[fickle forge]

Me too bro

[fierce elm]

the fuck

DOERS THAT MEAN

[fickle forge]

That I can't play my fucking main?

[verbal tangle]

Kek

[fierce elm]

I AM LEVELING

OKAY

[fickle forge]

And I am getting annoyed I have to sit 40 min Q to play 2 games before I go back to sitting 40 min Q?

[fierce elm]

I just have been doing other shit

but my shaman is 77.9

[fickle forge]

Did 4 games of kitty cleave before they go "we're gonna go Q a real comp now"

With a fucking Rsham

[rancid granite]

https://youtu.be/s6RZdU81Zj4

[fickle forge]

Yeah good luck

[fierce elm]

just play an alt

thats what I do

you dont see me complaining do ya

[urban skiff]

bro just do world quests with pvp enabled

[fierce elm]

I mean ive been doing christmas

working

[urban skiff]

You'll ding 80 and immediately be able to buy conq pieces

[fierce elm]

snowboarding

being sick

I got like 3k conq on different characters

its fine lmao

[rancid granite]

snowboarding and being sick

must be doing cool tricks

[fierce elm]

Well

I was doing christmas while sick

then got well

[fickle forge]

Yeah I do that all the time

Bored now

[rancid granite]

🤘

[fickle forge]

I wanna play my main

[fierce elm]

nwo doing snowboarding and work

Lil baby rn

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/skiing-tricks-stunts-turns-exhibition-gif-16064140

that guy is snowboarding being sick too

[fierce elm]

Took sick days cus I was having a sick day

[sharp meteor]

"only"

and price gets knocked back down to like 4k within the day

[urban skiff]

Moving the amount it takes is completely unrealistic

there's a lot of people holding large quantities, hoping the price goes up to 7k again

[sharp meteor]

bunch of boomers

[urban skiff]

and I think this reset spooked them into posting

[fierce elm]

stop gambling

[floral widget]

those heraldry def not, but the conquer one

maybe have some utility on the next patch?

if our conquer reset

[urban skiff]

"if"

conquest always resets

always

[floral widget]

sure

[sharp meteor]

Conq always gets wiped honor stays between seasons but not expacs

bloodstone stonks up s2 probs

[urban skiff]

Conquest and bloody tokens will reset, honor will stay. I'm 90% sure we're getting all new bloodstones so we can't hoard these across to next season. As soon as PTR comes up I'm scouring it for any hints of bloodstones resetting or not so I can set up my next season for gold usage

If we get new bloodstones, we want to be capped on honor day1 and just blast sell them at +20k a pop

If we get old we want to buy them now before new season creates new demand and takes a bunch out of the economy

[floral widget]

oh nice

ty

doin exactly this

i finally got all my conquer and gems gear

so im jus farmin both

[fierce elm]

how about yall farm some bitches IRL

[floral widget]

lol

[fierce elm]

Im out here farming Grandpa lore snowboarding

yall farming GOLD

[urban skiff]

wife won't let me

[fierce elm]

Tell her that a man needs to chase

Its built in from the time we had to hunt for food

or dont, that would probably not be good

[rancid granite]

i guess you can always start up gardening too

[urban skiff]

I did it as you typed it

[exotic forge]

I have a woman already, leave me alone

[exotic forge]

It's incredibly therapeutic

[rancid granite]

yeah so i hear and see with people i know who do it lol

[fickle forge]

You still want to be capped on honor for the honor gear though

So if you buy out day 1, you're stuck playing catchup

[urban skiff]

true, but my 8 alts don't all want that

when i can sell enough stones on day1 to cover all the rest of the season's gold needs

[fierce elm]

need full honor on all 40 alts

[sharp meteor]

no spoils of war next seas for a few months

gotta get that eatin while it good

[urban skiff]

what is going on

[fickle forge]

Is it even gonna go up though

Like people just recraft their gear right

Bloodstone sold so much cause everyone needed precog

[urban skiff]

and all the other gems

[sour crag]

I dunno if I am not braindead enough for fury.

[fickle forge]

Nobody really cares about those in early season

[sour crag]

Like, how can I go full tunnelvision for dmg when my teammates keep dying

I don't wanna babysit them <-<

[fickle forge]

I mean

[dense herald]

i came back

do i play thane or slayer

[sour crag]

It's been a slow start for me so far..

(as fury)

[wheat jay]

sheesh

[boreal veldt]

all starts gonna be slow with 30min queues

[copper fox]

You just need to do more damage if you’re losing that badly

Tbh

[sour crag]

I'm trying .-.

it's mostly been others dying, not me

[copper fox]

Sit on a target dummy and make your damage rotation/muscle memory second nature

Yea but if you’re 4-12 it’s not just others randomly dying

You should be doing more damage and it’ll prevent that

More damage you do = less likely your team will die @ low rating especially

[sour crag]

I don't even know what milestone of damage I'm suppose to reach

[rancid granite]

just be honest with yourself 'could i have done more dmg'

[boreal veldt]

this is my issue as a healer, the damage profile (from my team mates) is so low

[rancid granite]

ez

[copper fox]

If you sit on a target dummy as slayer you should be maintaining 1.1-1.3m dps

If you can do that consistently then your muscle memory and rotation is solid

[copper fox]

Healing ss is a curse dude lol

[boreal veldt]

I see it as farming good karma

[copper fox]

I was a healer main in the past. Never going back

[boreal veldt]

oh god not main, never main

[rancid granite]

fits the name

[boreal veldt]

🙏

[sour crag]

I can maybe reach 800k DPS so far

Without cooldowns

[sour crag]

I've no idea how fury rotatiosns should be

I just keep mashing

[sharp meteor]

just hit w/e is up idk rampage good

[urban skiff]

rampage execute rb bt

[sour crag]

Should I bother having Onslaught on my actionbar? I prefer to have as few buttons to mind as possible

[copper fox]

If you’re maintaining 800k without CDs then post cds you should be able to maintain over 1m

Hit the dummy with cds

[fickle forge]

Aight got my warr itch scratched, don't need you anymore @fierce elm

[copper fox]

You want as little downtime with cds as possible

Should be popping them on cd for the most part

Unless you’re waiting 5s max to line something up with oartners

Yes you need onslaught

[fickle forge]

Fury already barely have buttons

[sour crag]

I get too busy panicing that I am being slowed down xD

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's prob what you should prio dealing with then

Rotation is just something you do in the background while playing the real game

[sour crag]

You mean I should just keep mashing 1 2 3 4 while looking around my surroundings?

[slow solstice]

i think maybe

hit dummy for 15-20

with a guide

big dam will come

[wheat jay]

Did you?

[fickle forge]

I played WMD with some career rival frost mage and won most games

Arms feels okay with that

Until said career rival mage cannot find his kick on his bars to press on the lasso

[rancid granite]

mash rampage, use other abilities to gain rage to mash rampage, and q next

more you play the more its automatic and the more you see around you etc

open with onslaught i think

go pve and quest; always helps learn to dps too

[sour crag]

I also notice I lose HP very quickly and I panic because I'm so used to having Die By the Sword

[slow solstice]

do you press dstance

when you are rooted

kited

about to be blasted

[sour crag]

Nope. And even if I could I keep forgetting to go back to stance

[rancid granite]

you full geared?

=p

[sour crag]

More or less

Just need gems

[slow solstice]

#1237307732705415228 message

gems are not the difference

[rancid granite]

skillcapped addon and their setup for WA is lovely, when you go in dstance you see the lil icon on your character

[sour crag]

Skillcapped fucked up my UI and I can't be bothered wit ha template if I don't even understand half the context or layout.

[slow solstice]

do you know how to make a weakaura?

[sour crag]

Also with all the macros I can never figure out a good way to keybind them.

Yes I do. I have some, just not from skillcapped

[slow solstice]

make one that shows stance

[fickle forge]

This is kinda what I meant when I said fury probably isn't your salvation

How close to 1800 now?

[rancid granite]

yep solution here, really, is just Q next buddy

[sour crag]

I've only done 3 SS and I'm below 1k still

[rancid granite]

you can ask all the questions but it wont mean much - just q next, q next

[slow solstice]

queue more

[rancid granite]

get your ass beat, q next

[slow solstice]

like

[fickle forge]

MMR?

[slow solstice]

i think i queued 350ish total rounds

[sour crag]

Uuuuuuuh

No idea about MMR

[hot solstice]

u guys using new ring?

[slow solstice]

whats your character and server

[rancid granite]

dont bother looking at mmr or anything just Q next and try to improve

[fickle forge]

Tell after next lobby

[sour crag]

What does it matter?

LIke I've no clue how MMR works.

[rancid granite]

it doesn't it just psychs you out

[fickle forge]

Determines your gain/loss

[slow solstice]

queue more

you will climb

[rancid granite]

^

[fickle forge]

So closer to 1800+ MMR means the more likely you are of getting it

And fast

[rancid granite]

just q next and try your best and try to learn from each match GG EZ

[slow solstice]

it just wont matter

^

[fickle forge]

This him?

[slow solstice]

me

[fickle forge]

Ah

[slow solstice]

idk his stuff

[sour crag]

I just dont wanna look at my 300+ rounds with not even a fractions of wins. Would demoralize me to oblivion

[slow solstice]

as long as eveyr round or match you improve one thing

or something yo work on

[fickle forge]

Yeah MMR is what determines your gain/loss, so if you maintain average win rate, you'll hit that number

[slow solstice]

you are improving

[fickle forge]

In time

[slow solstice]

its how learning works

[vapid tartan]

q it up

[slow solstice]

[sour crag]

But won't spamming q also mean I will get more and more losses anyway and fuck up my MMR or whatever in the long run?

[fickle forge]

No

[rancid granite]

dont think about it

[slow solstice]

doesnt matter

[fickle forge]

Not as long as you win

[sour crag]

LIke, if people see me be at 100 rounds and only won 2..?

[slow solstice]

if you are improving

[vapid tartan]

who cares what other ppl think

[slow solstice]

it does not matter

[vapid tartan]

just q up

[fickle forge]

If you maintain 50% win rate, you'll hit your MMR in time

[slow solstice]

until you learn what i said

[fickle forge]

If you win, you'll go higher

[slow solstice]

you will not be happy

[sour crag]

I can't even maintain 10% win, it seems.

[rancid granite]

dont care about winning

[fickle forge]

Just tell me your MMR after next lobby

[rancid granite]

just care about improving

[slow solstice]

^

learning is the best thing we can do

[hot solstice]

why everyone isnt using it?

[slow solstice]

prob loss of stats isnt worth the damage or procs

[hot solstice]

u see these numbers?

lmao

[wheat jay]

Kfc just sucks sadly

[slow solstice]

what is kfc

?

[hot solstice]

what ring will give u 15% dam?

[fickle forge]

So much for the 75% nerf

[slow solstice]

idk

[boreal veldt]

i don't wanna dip under 23% res and i don't trust healers

[hot solstice]

I mean dam is nerfed

but proc rate

[sour crag]

Wait wait. The Siren Isle ring is viable for pvp after all?

[hot solstice]

200k on proc

[fickle forge]

Having a 75% nerfed ring do 8% of your dam is mad

Like actually mad

[hot solstice]

its not 8%

it has 3 procs

[fickle forge]

Ah right, 15%

[sterile moth]

I’m using the ring

[fickle forge]

Even madder

[sour crag]

Guess I'll try it next time I q then

[sterile moth]

The 3 procs normally make up 10%+ damage. I don’t see how the loss of stats would add more damage

[fickle forge]

It ain't

10% of your dam from an item is crazy

Time for Blizz to increase the nerfs to 95%

[boreal veldt]

having to nerf an item that much for a game mode blows my mind still

[rancid granite]

at least its readily obtainable for everyone lol

[boreal veldt]

a free item mind you

[rancid granite]

so maybe they wont care to nerf in pvp

[sour crag]

I'm confused. DOes the ring work in pvp or naw?

[fickle forge]

How much of your profile is the ring in PvE?

[slow solstice]

the ring will not get you 1800 alone

you dont play the damage procs

as dps

or anythign

the stats are better

[urban skiff]

what ilvl is it currently?

[slow solstice]

645

[fickle forge]

Wdym

[slow solstice]

the stats sim higher

in pve

[slow solstice]

^

[fickle forge]

I'm watching it do 15% of Doom's breakdown

[slow solstice]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gP8LhNpQFCp42yp7Vj2J1d

[fickle forge]

So you're telling me

It ain't worth in PvE

[urban skiff]

the stats are way higher in pve as well

[slow solstice]

no

im saying the damage procs are worse than the stat ones

[fickle forge]

But it's doing 15% of Doom's breakdown while being 75% nerfed in PvP

[slow solstice]

i feel like you are not understanding

[fickle forge]

Probably not

[urban skiff]

I lose 4% haste equipping the ring in pvp so idk what is up with the stats gem or if they're even working

[fickle forge]

I haven't looked into the ring

[slow solstice]

it sims wrose to play damage procs than to play the stat ones

[fickle forge]

Figured anything that's nerfed by 75% could never be good

[fickle forge]

Fair

[slow solstice]

does this make sense

[urban skiff]

how many stats can we even get on the ring

[slow solstice]

ah

that much

there is also one that gives like 3k to highest 2nd

but that proc is better

for me at least

[urban skiff]

can you tldr what to do for the ring? I want to try it on shammy and protwar

so like, KISS it because I'm kinda drunk at this point

[slow solstice]

do isle quest

[urban skiff]

idk which

[slow solstice]

and its just a weekly story quest

[urban skiff]

I went to isle and got distracted by killing people

[slow solstice]

go to rep vendor in dorn

ah

its pruple !

[urban skiff]

what do i do there

and not sure which rep vendor

[fickle forge]

Is this ring gonna carry over to S2 then??

[slow solstice]

you alraedy started the isle?

[urban skiff]

probably

[exotic forge]

They said it'd be powerful enough to do so

[fickle forge]

This patch ain't looking hot at all

[urban skiff]

Yeah I went to isle and did all quests in view on day 6, then ignored it until right now

[wheat jay]

Kentucky fried chicken

[urban skiff]

i know what can make you feel better

[exotic forge]

It's another timeless isle watered down, what'd ya expect

[wheat jay]

Or warr+hunter+heal

[fickle forge]

I mean S2

[fickle forge]

I dislike the tier sets and this ring looks like BFA gear reincarnated

[exotic forge]

I mean it depends on what else we get tbf

[urban skiff]

@fickle forge

[slow solstice]

idk what to tell you other than

there is a massive

purple

!

you do those

[fickle forge]

Pretty big buff ngl

[north thicket]

you don't want +stat gems, only on-proc dmg; 10% dmg on average

+stat are nerfed by 75%

[urban skiff]

I can't figure out where to get gems

they said we could buy all

[fickle forge]

Garbanzo patch ngl

[north thicket]

walk around the isle, there are 3 events popping up

[urban skiff]

2h incoming can't wait

[fickle forge]

Get PvE out of my arenas

[urban skiff]

Open the effing ptr already 😦

[north thicket]

they reward the gems

[fickle forge]

That includes the dragons

[exotic forge]

Is Slag still bugged?

[urban skiff]

sounds like i need to turn off pvp for a while 😦

[north thicket]

I don't know but I completed it on alt by resetting the boss

[craggy cliff]

as far as i can tell the nerfs didn't properly apply with the patch

[north thicket]

so there is a way to deal with the bug

[craggy cliff]

play it while you can

[north thicket]

if you see the message that cave is collapsing you have to reset the event

[exotic forge]

I did it like 5 times without any quest completion

[north thicket]

and pull boss outside with pets

[exotic forge]

Shits fun

[slow solstice]

https://www.method.gg/guides/all-cyrces-circlet-gem-locations

[craggy cliff]

pretty sure the stat procs are nerfed in pvp. sims and pvp just don't mesh

[north thicket]

breakdown for prot Col, skirmish arena

like I said earlier unsure myself if worth it rn (645 ilev ring) but it would be in a few weeks when 658 or w/e is the max

trading a ton of vers and another secondary for that 10% magic dmg

[urban skiff]

random stupid procs is basically90% of what I do n sham

[exotic forge]

Windfury moment

[exotic forge]

Is this a new meme

[floral widget]

some addon for tab target?

havin some issues targeting those pets

lol

[fickle forge]

Yeah I thought so

So surely it'll be hotfixed

[craggy cliff]

yeah i'm pretty sure it'll get fixed quickly

[urban skiff]

until i get on ptr and confirm or deny it, yes

[urban skiff]

we can enjoy the random bullshit until then

[craggy cliff]

it's not even worth getting for some specs in the game so i cba

[exotic forge]

Pet nameplates on if you hate yourself and like having many names on screen but it should make it easier to swap between targets

[craggy cliff]

pretty sure you can change tab to only target enemy players in arena

there's also a "TabTargetFix" addon that does the same thing iirc

[north thicket]

ReTabBinder

tnx Blizzard for making 1000000000000000 pets all over the screen so the game is absolutely unplayable without an addon

[craggy cliff]

there's a setting for it in the game too psure

[slow solstice]

did you read anything i said?

[craggy cliff]

nope

just the last couple messages

[north thicket]

Gio, are you playing with the Legendary Skipper? worth it?

[north thicket]

Patchwerk fight would dillute Mastery's value from the Fathomdweller? talking pve that is

[slow solstice]

1t sure

but the stats are just better

im going to sim again

and its going to show the same thing

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fyDdQUhcti8b8yVttMpQjE

[sharp meteor]

Ahahaha mrs devil

"dave"

[north thicket]

angry old man with lots of angry pets

[wheat jay]

Jane

Im fine with that

[fickle forge]

You should make a pharaoh

[wheat jay]

You should play knight

Ngl, I kinda wanna make dk for next season just for the set xD

But warr looks better lol

[urban skiff]

throwing 4% haste and 4% vers for big digg procs

quick skirmish puts out these numbers

I'm not convinced it isn't properly nerfed in pvp

maybe tank specs circumvent the nerf on dps procs?

@hot solstice

[north thicket]

how much per hit do you get from the crackling citrine

[hot solstice]

200k

[urban skiff]

just logged out but the 682k you're seeing is from literally like 10 seconds of combat

[north thicket]

mine is 180k in prot - think it's all good since the tooltip says sth like 165 or w/e is for fury/arms

the dmg procs suk in general - pve too, that's why they aren't nerfed in pvp :)))

[fickle forge]

Pop that pssy

[lavish quest]

I hear knight's kinda cracked

[exotic forge]

This made me laugh like a maniac

[verbal tangle]

The fucking hand of God came down

Demo crits are actually fucking disgusting

[fickle forge]

Don't tell em' that the 2nd hit of Demo was what popped the cheat death on angel

[verbal tangle]

Kek

[urban skiff]

wait are you playing TSG?

[urban skiff]

@fallen estuary someone is using your name on reddit to advertise

[fierce elm]

I WANNA SEE THE POST

Where is Afro the Outlaw rogue

[sharp meteor]

It's...his cord.

How it got converted from a shitpost forum cord to a "coaching" one I do not know.

[urban skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1hnz852/week_2_pvp_coaching_fundamental_teaching/

[urban skiff]

definitely some colourful language going on there

[sharp meteor]

❔

[urban skiff]

people can talk how they want, it's not my discord

[sharp meteor]

[fallen estuary]

Hey atleast we dont lock down language like the monk discord

[urban skiff]

skyhold isn't much better, but i assume there slightly more users here

[urban skiff]

I've changed my mind, I think s2 will use the same bloodstones as s1

[green wharf]

do we know that?

i know blood tokens are going to be converted into something else for sure

[urban skiff]

not for sure, but the crafting recipes are also named vicious, and made to last the entire expansion

[green wharf]

think i will stock some now

buy the honor potions to farm then

[fickle forge]

Yes

[sour crag]

I wonder how people manage with PvE stuff in full PvP gear

Having to keep switching back between vers and non-vers gear must suck

[faint girder]

Anyone know what addon these ”arrows” on his teammates are?

[thick reef]

It’s a weak aura me bruddaaaaa

[faint girder]

You know the name of it?

[sour crag]

So I want to see active enemy cooldowns on their nameplates like flyPlateBuffs, because I can't for the life of me getting my eyes on anywhere but the nameplates when I'm processing the situation in arenas. Any similar addons you recommend, since flyPlate seems kind of instable?

As in seeing when Karma or Wings are up so I can properly avoid them

[urban skiff]

Betterblizplates is the best addon for nameplates and supports cooldowns on nameplates as well

[sour crag]

I do have that one too, but that is SUPER finnicky with all the options.

I'm too afraid to break anything .-.

[urban skiff]

download a preset

I think bajheera or magnusz posts their addon exports

[urban skiff]

@slow solstice

@green wharf did you follow a specific guide on how to play your deathbringer 2h frost build?

[green wharf]

no, i just put a 2h and shereeded

i think i saw on murlock the stats and how people were building for 2h/dw

some focu on crit, so they take the crit talents

i go for haste and mastery

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/j-jEOB1CJ2E

is this guy saying truth or weird shit?

there's a chapter on 2h

got to level 35 or 38 on my dk but have to start over. KT human lack of sound is just incredibly grating on dk

[green wharf]

whats he saying

40m is a no no right now

[frank knoll]

Survival Hunter is def the most complicated melee dps spec

[fierce elm]

Hitting three buttons sure is complicated

looks at sub rogue that requires a Phd in understanding stuff to even be relevant