pvp

[sharp meteor]

afk spin mid in deepwind/ab usually with mw

defend mw/dragon fc in warsong or twin beaks

um

[exotic forge]

twin beaks

we're carrying birds to our base boys

[green wharf]

but i never use anyway

harmstring is so damn clunky

[urban skiff]

bake hamstring into slam

easy fix for blizzard

[green wharf]

tclap in other hand can apply rend as well, and aoe

fuck harmstring

[green wharf]

MS -> apply rend
Slam -> apply harmstring

Fixing warrior at 3am on discord

[urban skiff]

go back to being a true 2 button spec

make warrior happy again

[boreal veldt]

why is it on gcd anyway

[urban skiff]

so you don't macro it into other stuff

Whenever you ask "why [maintenance skill that isn't satisfying to press] is on gcd?", that's the answer

[verbal tangle]

With whirlwind stacks you can cleave Hamstring

Which can be huge

With the secret weapon swap into Thunderfury tech to make BM Hunters mald harder when their Stampede does fuckall

[green wharf]

even with this it would not be 2 button spec

[urban skiff]

let's be real

[green wharf]

it would just fix the bloat putting us o pair with the likes of paladins

[urban skiff]

execute = ms

big hit big dam same cost

meanwhile shaman gets to deal with stormstrike lava lash ice strike crash lightning lightning bolts chain lightning meatballs flame shock frost shock just to deal a normal amount of damage

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-missed-part-where-thats-my-problem-gif-18535010

[urban skiff]

I'm sure you can survive having to press hamstring

[green wharf]

the irony of that statement is how warriors die easier

and no i spec into tclap cause im not a degenerate

[urban skiff]

Use dstance more

[green wharf]

free two gcd in one

[urban skiff]

I spec into thunderclap because thunder go CLAP

nice sound nice button

[sharp meteor]

fury thane just clap

hamstring is for dorks

team adjust

[green wharf]

wow will need to wait, i need to revive Osiris, by putting his pieces back together

[nimble jasper]

you need bis macro for this

[green wharf]

Thane in general, is just so fucking good

its shit that arms cant have it

[sharp meteor]

thane makes fury almost feel like arms

press rampage hits a guy for like 2 million

cleaves everybody around them for giga dam

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

i remember in DF tclap deal almost the same damage as slam

i could just remove this shit button from my sight

[sharp meteor]

ya i dont know if i ever pressed slam

it was so little dmg extra

and i usally needed to refresh rend

[urban skiff]

I actually got a killing blow last night with slam

won me the final shuffle round that took me over 1800

So I'm happy I had it bound

[green wharf]

could have just used MS

[sharp meteor]

i remember talkin to this one warr who was having issues so im like stream ur games to me

and he'd try to get so many slams in just to have a button to press

im like nah just dont press it at all ever take it off bars

and he started winning so much more

cos he wasnt delaying ms by a global

or forgetitng hamstring

[urban skiff]

tbh healer was coming out of cc and it worked out as intended

and slam is a pretty cool button to press

[sharp meteor]

ya it kind of does dmg now

bonked some guy for like 500k as prot

[urban skiff]

It's like the difference from beating someone with a club or going jackie chan and slapping someone with a chair. It's just extra humilation when it works

[exotic forge]

you only ever press slam for tactician procs and that's one in a million chances when overpower exists

[sharp meteor]

ya was one of those things that was in theory dps increase but using incorrectly resulted in dmg loss

[urban skiff]

you press slam for tactician procs

I press slam for kill

We are not the same

SLAM GO BRRRRRRRR

new warband camp scenes

[green wharf]

besides the one below the default, they look lame tbh

i hoped they would do something more thematic with factions/races

but i guess they went with expansion zones

cant say i dont udnerstand, just dont like it

[urban skiff]

Newest zones are highest graphical quality. A static scene will easier show flaws than when we're constantly moving about. I'm sure we'll see something wild in the future

[green wharf]

dont care, i want mine close to the walls of orgrimmar

[faint girder]

Anyone know what our stat "caps" or what we should aim for as Fury (pvp)?

@fickle forge Are you the author of the IV Fury pvp guide? 🙂

[green wharf]

murlok.io

and you copy what the high ranked people do

[urban skiff]

haste to taste is the boring answer

it's largely preference, mastery in everything else when you have the haste you enjoy

vers is whatever you get passively from pvp gear

[fierce elm]

he is

[plush cairn]

umm

is this meta?

that ring was doing 20% of hps as prot warr

now ill try arms in arena

[urban skiff]

if it is, it won't be for long

they're fully intending the ring to be pve only

[plush cairn]

it seems dumb af in pvp lmao

crackling citrine proc race is hella high

rate

heal proc one will be meta for fury

due to apm

yeah im doing 150k hps

as arms

[green wharf]

even with the 75% nerf?

[fierce elm]

Can we get some screenshots as some sort of proof lmao

[plush cairn]

nah i tried world pvp

queueing into arena rn

but imo it should still be overpowered

even with the nerf

it procs so often

like in 6-7 attacks i get 2-4 procs

in solo shuff

3procs in like 20sec

6% hps and 4% damage

[fierce elm]

Now compare it to the stats you have lost

[plush cairn]

you get more stats with that ring

[fierce elm]

I am going to scream

The only stat you gain is Stamina, no?

[plush cairn]

no

[fierce elm]

Because those stat gains are nerfed by 75%

in PvP combat

[plush cairn]

25%

[fierce elm]

what the fuck have they DONE

[plush cairn]

tooltip shows 120 something

but still adds 25% off

[fierce elm]

It should be 75% as per the patch notes lmao

[plush cairn]

it shows that those gems only proc for 15k

but then u check damage

and it does 7%

[fierce elm]

I aint trusting

nor do I care to go get the ring and test it myself

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff abandon your family and go test this for me

thanks g

[plush cairn]

2.7% overall

if u get lucky with procs can do a shit ton in a single round

but the stats might be worth more

and theres an extra stamina gain aswell

[vagrant tangle]

thought I'd try for strategist

mfw

https://i.imgur.com/EIsxBfG.png

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-got-time-for-that-a-intnobody-got-time-for-that-no-time-for-that-nope-no-gif-10243842

[fierce elm]

yeaaah lmao

[fallen estuary]

I got my strategist

Qup

[vagrant tangle]

btw, if I understood the patch notes correctly, do we just lose the 10% decreased sap and fear from ET?

[fierce elm]

I would ignore any numbers on patch notes

[vagrant tangle]

or is that going to be merged into sth

[fierce elm]

they mean practically nothing right now

[vagrant tangle]

not talking about numbers per se though

ET is being removed

[fierce elm]

we are still 1-2 months out from the next patch

Yes

[vagrant tangle]

and the 10% reduction is MIA

[fierce elm]

and we have no idea what they are doing

Unless someone here is on the dev team and willing to leak stuff

There are going to be a ton of different dev notes and patch notes once PTR hits

[green wharf]

apprently yes

[fierce elm]

But as it stands right now, yes

[vagrant tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mc-conaughey-crying-sad-gif-12671400

[green wharf]

You knew that had to gut something to make the change

its expected

but honstly the tree looks pretty much the same

didnt free you any point

[fickle forge]

Yah

[fierce elm]

Is that the karanze

Famous writer of the fury guide despite being a hpala main

[fickle forge]

You gotta do what you gotta do man

[green wharf]

So its treason then

[fickle forge]

Imagine if my podolski here rolled a class that fits with my warr

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/its-treason-then-palpatine-emperor-revenge-sith-gif-13534212

[fickle forge]

And wasn't a pirate enthusiast

[fierce elm]

yo wtf

dont talk SHIT

Im thinking about bringing my WW up lmao

DK just feels so extremely slow to lvl

and if I level shaman I have to level as resto

[fickle forge]

How does that make sense

You gon' level as MW then?

[fierce elm]

Brew

obviously big guy

[fickle forge]

And what we gon' do then huh

WW+arms?

[fierce elm]

lmao

YOU ARE SO NEGATIVE

[north thicket]

Are you really content with Arms' survivability?
Even as Col it feels like blowing up in 2-3 gcds when targeted in 3v3 (~27% vers). Either this is stupid or I am spoiled by playing prot and fury pvp

Bottom line, it's not tanky at all and it's gcd locked. Hey, do I press the 0 dmg Hamstring to try sticking to the target or do I press something to survive

Existential questions every few split second / gcd

[green wharf]

arms is awful and need a rework

[urban skiff]

I don't even have it yet

[urban skiff]

I mean, i don't struggle that much at low ratings despite being focused often.

But i have 30% vers and am kt human so extra tanky race

Kt human is 1% vers, 2% less damage from frost and nature, self heal on damage, and haymaker to instantly create dangerous situations for healer or dps who aren't ready to get knocked way out of LoS

If i could do shaman again it would be kt human for root after knockback

[green wharf]

at 30% still die like shit

and Zerc the veteran vitality is SHIT

[faint girder]

Awesome! You OK with answering some questions in DM? I was thinking not to spam this channel ..

[urban skiff]

how do you notice it?

it's literally just big fucking ticks of second wind, if you don't use a WA to count it, it's just gonna look like regular passive healing

[rancid granite]

spam away

[urban skiff]

walking behind a pillar to get caught up on healing is free, as long as you get ms off first it's still going to keep you ahead on damage

[fierce elm]

You shoud ask here, Karg doesnt play Fury

and we have some real fury gamers here

[faint girder]

Oh I see

The Slaughtering Strikes talent - do we wish to ONLY send Rampage with 5x stacks of it or does it not matter? I was thinking of getting a WA tracker for the stacks

[fierce elm]

You send rampage whenever you can, regardless of any stacks

If rampage is lit up, you hit it instantly

[faint girder]

So Rampage > Execute > Raging Blow > Bloodthirst?

[fierce elm]

basically yes

only thing that changes is Bloodthirst grabbing prio during Enraged Regen

due to wanting to heal up, as soon as you are healthy you swap back to the regular prio

[urban skiff]

Full send every rampage that is going to damage the target.

[urban skiff]

Isn't bt over x stacks also prio over rb? Is it 5 stacks?

[faint girder]

Ah ok

[fierce elm]

I just send it whenever tbh

I always tend to get a bloodthirst here and there

[copper fox]

Yea there’s some warriors who would tell you that bt > rb but it’s massively false and a dps loss

[fierce elm]

Cant hit RB I just hit BT

[copper fox]

Hit bt when you have nothing else to hit yea

[fierce elm]

Of course, unless you are in ER and your healer cant heal you and massive trouble

[copper fox]

Yea

[fierce elm]

What does one do after finishing every Elite set I wanted this season lmao

[copper fox]

Waiting for 5 stacks all the time could potentially be a dps loss if you’re not using globals and waiting

[fierce elm]

Because I aint sitting 50 minute queues on my paladin for 2400

[copper fox]

What’s your pally at

[fierce elm]

2.2

[copper fox]

You need tabard

[fierce elm]

2.4 mmr lmao

the queue times are killing me

[copper fox]

Just press q and doom scroll on social media

[fierce elm]

Slammed 1800 on Warr real quick yday, Rogue is finished unless we are doing 3s, Paladin is camping 2.2

Thinking about leveling another spec so Kargish stops complaining

[copper fox]

Play enhance

[fierce elm]

but then I would have to play DK or Enhance

and I just cba leveling

Karg wants to do TSG

and I have nothing to play with his warrior basically

[copper fox]

Frost tsg is fun

[fierce elm]

yeah but DK sucks to elvel

[green wharf]

by using, dogshit skill

[green wharf]

why

[fierce elm]

feels extremely slow

[green wharf]

cant you just go blood on timewalking

[fierce elm]

Tanking timewalking sucks and I hate it

[urban skiff]

Sounds like you aren't measuring it.

[rancid granite]

its bound to be more chill than healing

[urban skiff]

Queue dps, you gonna get a level 11 fury tippah in no time

[fierce elm]

it all depends on the tank you get

queueing Rsham felt fine lmao

You just put down totems and spam chain lightning

[green wharf]

i level up very fast doing dps

[urban skiff]

Booster asking "tip, tip, tip?" Repeatedly in chat

Tippah

[rancid granite]

i just hit 2 aoe buttons over and over atm

[green wharf]

it also can drop the timewalking mount, got mine in the last character i level up

Frost deathbringer is fun as fuck

[fierce elm]

11 minute QUEUES THOUGH

[green wharf]

timewlaking is much less than that

[fierce elm]

not as dps right now

I just did one

: (

[green wharf]

but i usually put to search and go read manwha

[fierce elm]

fuck need to buy two one handers to play frost lmao

[green wharf]

frost 2h is goat

THICH obliterate

[rancid granite]

still not over this comment

[fierce elm]

: )

[lavish quest]

It's all easy anyways who cares

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's fine man

[lavish quest]

Just don't be dog

[fierce elm]

lmao group just wiped

[lavish quest]

Yall afk a pull?

Dat crazy

[fierce elm]

they dont know mechanics

on the cata bosses that one shot lmao

Doing cata tIMEWALKIG SUCKJS

[north thicket]

How stupid would it be to play Crackling TC instead of Hamsterstring+Rend for Colo Arms?

No PE, no Roar, no Commander talent but spear+torment

+Warbringer

[fickle forge]

I lost track at what you cooked up here

You want to run 0 Rend?

[north thicket]

This

[fickle forge]

Should def go shout talents

But other than that seems fine

[north thicket]

If specced into PE + Commander but w/o Roar > Warbringer + from wherever one can pull 1 talent point (Second Wind, Throw in some cases)?

And in this setup one goes for on-use crit trinket I guess

[fierce elm]

L colossus

[urban skiff]

There's a frost "1"shotbuild making rounds currently that seems to be flying under the radar

[green wharf]

which one? i doubt its possible, but im doing some bazonka damage

[urban skiff]

give me a few minutes, it's one of those weird youtube channels with a couple hundred subscribers only

[green wharf]

i quantify if the spec is good by my ability to kill paladins x1

if i can do it, tis good, if i cant is shit

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/uqeEePdJFfE

[green wharf]

thats why fury and prot = godly, arms = shit

[urban skiff]

Yeah this, it's probably bullshit but I've been meaning to try it out

[fierce elm]

why do you have all these hidden tech youtubers on deck lmao

[urban skiff]

Idk

he was one of the first movers on guardian 1shot and bdk 1shot

So I'm going to take him a bit more seriously than I normally would a small channel

Whether he finds it himself or he's just really fast at catching these things doesn't really change anything for me

Just wish he did a better job explaining what it is and how it works.

[green wharf]

doesnt seem much different from what i do

i just dont use breath cause i think is a dumb skill

[urban skiff]

if it's dumb and works it isn't dumb tho

[green wharf]

i dont like it to press

but yeah, deathbringer frost is cool cause you can play 2H

and pretend you are arms

[urban skiff]

I mythic raided with fdk and uhdk in all of legion. I know all about breath being funky shit

[green wharf]

actually fun to play

[copper fox]

I’m lvling a dragon warrior someone tell me to stop making warriors

[urban skiff]

same with garg when it was the same, expend resources to increase damage. Now that function is technically in totemic enh shaman

[green wharf]

stop making dragons

[urban skiff]

what race did you pick?

[green wharf]

always zug zug

i dont give up hardness on pvp

bloodfury line nice with burst too

[urban skiff]

I'm undecided on what I want to play my dk as. I got a robognome dk at level 70 just to lock in the name robodots but idk if that's trolling enough

[green wharf]

can always stuff on the macro

[urban skiff]

maybe velf is decent for fdk

could probs do some amazing grips with it

[green wharf]

elf 🤢

[urban skiff]

if it works it works

[green wharf]

i like troll too

[urban skiff]

I'd do kthuman but I don't want to have no strike sounds

[green wharf]

trolls have cool animation, good racials and dope mogs

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm fuck upped my elvanse dose today with 20mg midday and now I'm just fucking shaking like an angry chihuahua

felt amazing training with it though

[copper fox]

I have 2 gnomes, orc, troll, high mountain and lvling a dragon now

[fierce elm]

¨kek

[fierce elm]

also what the fuck

why do you need so many warriors

[primal plank]

Hey just started pvp on my warrior and was wondering what embellishments I should consider? I see that EU warriors take ascendance while US warriors go focusing lens. Any reason behind this? 🙂

[copper fox]

I have my friends who I always get glad with who I have 1-2 srs warriors for. Then I have irl friends who SUCK at this game who I have 1-2 not srs warriors for then I have a warrior I do 1600 sales on and make millions of gold on lol

[fierce elm]

They like one over the other

eother one is fine

personally like lens

[copper fox]

I’d go lens

A lot of people who aren’t using lens just have the other one from early season and just don’t see a reason to change

It’s such a small difference

[primal plank]

Alright, thank you both for your answers. Suspected it was something minor, but wanted to be sure. 🙂

[urban skiff]

i think US players tend to focus on one mode while EU players are going to try all-rounding more

but that's a prejudice and I'm just a dum woyer

[fierce elm]

I think EU players are stupid as FUCK

[green wharf]

i got one orc, one goblin, one tauren and one undead

one worgen too, cause i like werewolves

but only played him in bfa

[green wharf]

EU foruns are dead

[urban skiff]

I'm an EU player and I'm so dumb I can't spel dmub

what shaman mog would go well with these claws?

[jovial torrent]

did u get the kor'kron set? @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

had it for ages

[fierce elm]

lil baby claws

[jovial torrent]

that colour matches i think

could mix the helm shoulders with some other bits

[urban skiff]

this the one?

the one from the raid?

[fierce elm]

cool

[jovial torrent]

theres a lighter set

[urban skiff]

shoulders so tiny on female draenei though

[copper fox]

Female draenei has the worst appearances

Rather be a chad male draenei like Manzin

[urban skiff]

ehhhh, i can't make the prestige weapons from WoD work for shaman

[faint girder]

Thx mate, really appreciate it!

[urban skiff]

I think i've managed a few looks

[fierce elm]

slutmogs

[urban skiff]

I mean, yeah

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-hot-thats-hot-gif-23312083

[urban skiff]

but I do it everywhere

[fierce elm]

you really dislike shoulders

dont you

[urban skiff]

I dislike clothes in general

i'd be naked 24/7 if i could

Do other people enjoy wearing clothes or do they just like not being judged for what's under?

[rancid granite]

do you get compliments on it tho

i got this on my rogue yesterday

:snax:

[fierce elm]

lmao wtf

[urban skiff]

i actually do

and people ask for my OF

so I give them my wife's OF

[rancid granite]

does this discord disable outside emojis

lol

[urban skiff]

isn't this a wowhead discord? Pretty sure they're running a semi-clean ship

[rancid granite]

ill carry a red rose for the occasion like im tuxedo mask but OF cringe

aw i got gifted nitro i had good emojis

[elfin surge]

[rancid granite]

id give your characters this zercher

this too

[urban skiff]

aww

have this in return

[lavish quest]

Only mud can use outside emotes because we made him SF during his 2 weeks here this season

[urban skiff]

is mud even real?

or is he a puppet made to keep us complacent?

[lavish quest]

11.1 ain't out yet so no

When it drops "we're so back"

[urban skiff]

for how long this time?

[lavish quest]

2 weeks

Tops

[urban skiff]

Anyone else miss original wintergrasp?

[lavish quest]

Current wintergrasp ain't much different

Except not on a 3 hr timer lul

Strand of the ancients tho. God I miss her.

[urban skiff]

You used to win wintergrasp and have the whole zone for questing and stuff

[lavish quest]

For like 5 quests. And I think that may still exist. And even if it doesn't, it was just quests for honor

[urban skiff]

yea but at the time it was excellent entertainment

[lavish quest]

Sure bud, sure

Best part was doing it in cata for the ez honor lmao

[urban skiff]

huh, this is weird

we can't see dragonflight pvp transmogs until we've had the character in dragonflight with the class we want to see

[urban skiff]

wild mastery

so that's everything but builders and autoattacks

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-man-donnie-donnie-yen-1v10-versus10-gif-21093652

the monk arc is so fun

please tell me there is nunchakus or tonfas in game

[verbal tangle]

Nope

Closest is something like Fist of the Deity

[rancid granite]

oh thats not too bad

[boreal veldt]

climbing holy priest ladder today

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

low mmr hell

[rancid granite]

healing in general easy vibes idk why yall think otherwise

-until your dps run behind pillars

[boreal veldt]

thats generally it

it's not the healing thats hard

just sometimes your fighting 5 players instead of 3

[rancid granite]

though i only casted on holy pally so far.. so instant-casts

and wings where you melee to heal

i imagine actual casting can be more frustrating lol

[urban skiff]

there's something cool, let me find it

[urban skiff]

@rancid granite tonfa-blades and bokken-like weapons. And a leek

[rancid granite]

the leek lol

whats the name of this

[urban skiff]

WotLK Gundrak drop

from moorabi

unfortunately it clips through most arms so I never used it

Anyone know if we can get on the 11.1 ptr yet or it's invite only or not up at all?

[fierce elm]

PTR aint up

[urban skiff]

FML

I just want to try 2h stormstrike build

[lavish quest]

The P in PTR is public

Btw

[urban skiff]

no

but yes

but no

they're gonna fix it somehow

but I want to see if it can be made to work until they fix it

keeping enough conq on my shaman to be able to buy it as soon as i can get on ptr

It's just straight up worse stats

giving up 3% vers and 4% haste for two procs seems pretty steep

[frank knoll]

They wouldn’t make 2H stormstrike without adding some kind of talent like they did with 2h frost when they brought it back
You need Flametongue and Windfury

[urban skiff]

You actually don't need flametongue

putting windfury on a 2h is like having a 1.5 windfury so that's cool enough

windfury is not a PPM, so going from 1h to 2h would decrease windfury procs by around 25%, but damage would increase by 50%

so the real question becomes whether we can keep up 5 stacks of windfury weapon with a 2h instead of 1h. I want to say yes

[iron fractal]

What's an easy way to earn conquest if you can't farm the dropped war chests?

[urban skiff]

But again, there's is 0% chance this is intentional. It is a sideeffect of them making stormstrike a built in ability we get before dualwielding.

I'm just here for the nonsense

[idle falcon]

i just played a 2v2 match

it lasted 8 minutes

i won though

[hasty pulsar]

ATTENTION ALL: I HAVE REACHED 2400 IN SOLO SHUFFLE FOR FIRST TIME.

I must become legend

[copper fox]

inb4 “what was your spec?” “What stats?” “Are you a gnome?”

[hasty pulsar]

highest ranked vulpera warr in solo shuffle in the world right now

XD

number 3 vulpera overall... i must become #1..

[copper fox]

Yea race doesn’t matter tbh

[hasty pulsar]

ngl i throw this 80% slow they gave me on dudes and it just stops them dead in their tracks and theyre like wtf lmao

[slow solstice]

i need to queue soon

[verbal tangle]

Same

[hasty pulsar]

do it

queues pretty long this morning though waited like 40 minutes each match so far

[copper fox]

Rummel?

[hasty pulsar]

lol

thats what they call me

[copper fox]

Bruh almost 1400 games you’re a wild man

Good shit

[hasty pulsar]

yeah its my 2nd season pursuing pvp seriously

so i wont lie i have to play a lot lol

im not super proud but i have not given up after each set back

[copper fox]

As arms too

Against all odds

You truly are a legend

As your guild title shows

[hasty pulsar]

I have pve'd most of my wow career

and nothing comes close to achieving things in pvp

like I have killed many mythic bosses

but getting 2400 has been a true journey

for me at least

[copper fox]

Nice. Ok I’m done glazing you. Now do better than 2400

[hasty pulsar]

lmao

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff I'm back baby

[hasty pulsar]

holy crap thats a lot of dam

[urban skiff]

Link build and stats. Also gratz, this i huge! I'm proud of you

[urban skiff]

Want to see something funny, go to murlokio and check race split of skal in blitz. Just all over the place. They clearly don't give any fucks

[hasty pulsar]

XD

[urban skiff]

I almost am back as well. Finished war, gonna do a quick stint as feral then back to enh and see how far i can go

[copper fox]

He actually linked it

[hasty pulsar]

LOL

im guessing thats an inside joke

welp

[urban skiff]

They always do. I regret not saving them. It would be pretty cool to have a collage or moodboard with fellow brothers who succeeded

[slow solstice]

i link my gear

half pve

[urban skiff]

Nah it's cool. I always ask because it's nice to see what people do, and maybe a lurker will be more likely to go off track and try something that isn't at the top of murlokio

[hasty pulsar]

thank you 🙏

[copper fox]

Who was that dude that came in here after hitting 2.4 blitz? He was the first 2.4 blitz warr

Fire something

Guy never says a word in here

Came to get glazed and everyone was on his nuts about what spec and gear he didn’t as lol

Never heard from him since

[hasty pulsar]

XD

i wonder if blitz will be as easy next season

cuz this season the mmr is wild

[fickle forge]

It's liberating when you're used to warr

All these fucking caster dogs get put on a leash by enh sham

[copper fox]

I hope they reset it. I solo qd for title and it was easy because of the inflation

[fickle forge]

Wait they're actually 3.7k rating in blitz right now?

It's over man

[sharp meteor]

[copper fox]

Yea dude it’s fried lol

[sharp meteor]

Dude s2 is gonna be so bad when they gut mmr

[copper fox]

You don’t play the best players until you’re @ 3k now

[sharp meteor]

top of ladder gonna go down 1k points

[sharp meteor]

played vs this at 3k mmr yesterday

[copper fox]

LOL

[fickle forge]

Stoooooooooooooop

[copper fox]

amazing

That’s simply amazing

[fickle forge]

It's like this fucking rogue I beat in 2s and then started whispering me shit

[sharp meteor]

so this seas is more inflated than crimson shuffle bUTTTTTTT

the thing is that

[urban skiff]

Holy fuck yes.

[sharp meteor]

u gotta play a lot of games for cr

i swear if everybody jsut queued

[copper fox]

LMAO

[sharp meteor]

ah ye

[copper fox]

Dude crimson shuffle was the easiest gaming experience of my life

[sharp meteor]

rogue so utterly disgusto in bgs

[copper fox]

I was still a healer main back then and warr alt

Played disc

[urban skiff]

Accidentally taking out a mage (because i play with action targeting for fun) because his rogue used vanish never gets old

[fickle forge]

Like I was on my Hpala and did /dance IRL on his Kidney goes

[copper fox]

Was so easy

[fickle forge]

Never felt safer

[copper fox]

Disc was the only healer that could win games during the retpocolypse during crimson

My mmr blasted to 3.5k during that

Farmed nogard on rdruid 3 lobbies in a row idk why he was qing

And it was gg from there

[fickle forge]

Dragonflight in general was actually the hottest garbage

[copper fox]

lol it was so bad

I only played s1 and 3

[fickle forge]

Ret meta into aug meta into DH+lock meta into lock+affli meta

Like everyone season had 1 completely unbeatable comp by non-S tiers

[copper fox]

DH lasted all 4 seasons didn’t it

S1 there was like 5-6 DH over 2.4 before any other class had 2.4

Then again at 3k same thing

[urban skiff]

it was fun as fuck

and let's be real, if they hadn't inflated the shit out of solo shuffle it wouldn't have been accepted the way it did

people gonna feel the same way about bgb once they get a new game mode to hate

[copper fox]

@urban skiff I’m setting a goal rn for s2. In your honor

[urban skiff]

cool

[copper fox]

I’m going to play 2h enhance to 2.4

[urban skiff]

what's it gonna be?

[copper fox]

Never played enhance before

[urban skiff]

fuck lol

[copper fox]

Might not make it but who the fk knows

I’m doing it

It sounds so fun

[urban skiff]

at least make sure they don't break it first

[copper fox]

Fair

Alright it’s contingent on it being playable

[urban skiff]

ptr not even up yet and I can't be the only one who noticed we can play 2h stormstrike builds

[copper fox]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eIet7QRpo

Me in s2

[urban skiff]

i miss unbreakable

[copper fox]

Was my idol

[urban skiff]

what was the other guys?

I remember an ele shaman in wotlk also being really popular

fuck i think 2h shaman is already dead on arrival

I swear it said offhand last time i looked

[copper fox]

Duelspec or Veex?

Novos

[urban skiff]

before patch 11.0.7

[hasty pulsar]

they need to bring back 2h shaman!!!

[copper fox]

Bro no way 2h can’t storm strike

[lavish quest]

He just watched a lot of guides bro

[copper fox]

Wouldn’t that make it a 1 button rotation? Lmfaooo

[lavish quest]

Good to know 2400 means nothing this season

[copper fox]

Yea I mean if inflation is 3.5k+

What’s 2.4 really mean

lol

[urban skiff]

is this a red flag or a green flag?

[lavish quest]

I haven't been blitzin so not super up to day

Haven't been wowing for that matter lol

[lavish quest]

Red flag, but that's okay, they a 2k player and that's okay

[wheat jay]

neutral

[copper fox]

Beige flag

[wheat jay]

like, anything in shuffle and blitz is neutral

dont even look at it if you want to get an opinion about a player

[urban skiff]

I did math a while back and by the looks of it, getting from 0 to 1500 takes about the same number of wins as going from 1500 to 1800. And funny enough 1800 to 1950 also the same applies

[wheat jay]

cap

[lavish quest]

It's the only thing that exists now old man

[wheat jay]

that's the worst math ive seen in ages

[lavish quest]

Get with the times.

[copper fox]

Here I’ll give you the 1800 math

[wheat jay]

you can get from 1800 to 2100 faster than 1500-1800, all depends on mmr and win rates

[urban skiff]

I'm too dumb to catch the subtler signs like how they play

[slow solstice]

what was kyveza parse

fuck the pvp

[wheat jay]

dont ask

i died twice man

[slow solstice]

i got a 25

[wheat jay]

12 or 13

[slow solstice]

jug fell

[wheat jay]

had god tier procs before deaths

[slow solstice]

got a queensbane

[wheat jay]

13 stacks of jugg at like 45%

[slow solstice]

lost it all

omg

[wheat jay]

ye same

[slow solstice]

its so over

[wheat jay]

mehh

im not rly a parse bitch

[slow solstice]

ik

[wheat jay]

kill > parse

if i can get both, nice

if not, too bad xD

[slow solstice]

but it ruined my 97 avg

[wheat jay]

mehh

it is what it is xD

[urban skiff]

[copper fox]

Oh I stoped typing my bad they ended that conversation lmfao

For ss 1800 is 3 lobbies if you 6-0 your first lobby then 4-2+ the others. 4 lobbies if you 5-1 then 4-2 the others. Add + 2 lobbies to each with the same first lobby followed by 3-3+

Wait are we talking about ss or blitz

If you 4-2 your first lobby the math gets too hard and you’re cooked

1-5 @ 100+ more mmr than your cr is still + 15 cr

@ 150+ it’s + 30

Lots of diminishing returns after that

There’s no cap on rating gained. So theoretically you can get from 2100-2400 just as quickly as 1500-1800. But your mmr would have to be 300+ points higher than your cr @ that rating to achieve that

Which would mean you’ve gone 100% 6-0 leading to 2100

I played almost 10000 games of shuffle on disc priests in s1 DF when I did all this math. Ss still the same formula

[lavish quest]

Pve'ers, in my PvP chat!?!? Excuse me?

[slow solstice]

shut up noob

want to hunt monster after i walk dog

[lavish quest]

I'm at work

You know this

[slow solstice]

idk what prison cell you work jn

[lavish quest]

You literally DM'd me last night knowing this lmao

[slow solstice]

do you work like 12 hour shifts

[lavish quest]

Yes

[slow solstice]

you messaged me back at 5 am

[lavish quest]

I wake up at 4:30

[slow solstice]

its been 13 hours

[lavish quest]

I start at 6

[slow solstice]

soon then

[lavish quest]

Your math ain't mathin

[slow solstice]

soon

[lavish quest]

Only 3 more hours of work.

Then 45 mins till I'm home after that. Then I shower. Then I sleep an hr after that

[slow solstice]

[lavish quest]

[slow solstice]

ill just go play wow then

need to study for raid

secret ansurek skip technology

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/luntry-gif-26563186

I skipped her months ago

Just don't have a desire to kill her. Ez

[boreal veldt]

jfc i joked about 4k blitz earlier this season and yet here we are

beyond cooked

[exotic forge]

You have a problem

but I guess I do too, I killed someone with Slam once

[iron fractal]

Which part do I want to put embellishment on if I'm doing x2 elemental focusing lens?

Ring + boots?

[fierce elm]

That

or double ring

[iron fractal]

What's the difference, or reason?

[fierce elm]

minor difference

[sharp meteor]

there isnt

[fierce elm]

You can grab mastery boots

that about it

[sharp meteor]

its just a matter of where ur getting which stats

[iron fractal]

What would you say, boot+ ring or 2 rings?

Fury btw.

[fierce elm]

Whichever you want tbh

[iron fractal]

Eh, going double ring then.

[fickle forge]

@urban skiff Ye I'm back baby

[fierce elm]

oh my god the 6-0 at 1500

NO WAY

[fickle forge]

Everybody was first timing their spec

Lmfao

Game be like "Yeah that's 2.2k mmr worthy"

[fierce elm]

Had some Enhance yday giga-knowledge check the builds

Static into running away and killing from range lmao

[fickle forge]

Idk how he has space for static

Then he lacks ground or ride

[fierce elm]

Yep

But he was chadding it up

[iron fractal]

Cursed mastery or versatility enchant for the rings?

[copper fox]

Cursed mastery

[urban skiff]

If i wanted to do it over i'd go wrist and cloak for lowest loss of vers

[fierce elm]

You can do it over

FREE CONQUEST BABY

[urban skiff]

Week, they're removing ride in 11.1

[copper fox]

I have lens on 2x ring on most warriors idk

Only have it on boots on my pure mastery warr

[iron fractal]

Easiest way to earn qonquest if you can't farm the world drop war chest?

[fierce elm]

get your ass into arena

and win

[copper fox]

3s

It’s super fast

[iron fractal]

Then I have to find a group.

[fickle forge]

I think we can safely assume now that the starting MMR for shuffle is 1870

[fierce elm]

oh my god the 6-0 at 1870

sorry

[fickle forge]

Nah go by the healers tbh

Who were both 1500

The rest of us were 0 cr

[fierce elm]

oh my god the 6-0 at 1500

[fickle forge]

It's pretty wild to have a starting MMR of 1870 though

Almost 1900 for free

[fierce elm]

yep

Until you end up facing sweaty nerds while at 1400

[exotic forge]

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah

[urban skiff]

it is, i posted a screencap of my first shuffle on my fresh warrior and it was exactly(ish) that

what even is this skirmish

[quasi zephyr]

any chance of finding queues as a fury warrior or dead game? currently unsubbed

[fierce elm]

I mean

it depends on your MMR

but you will sit 10-25 minute queues in solo shuffle

[quasi zephyr]

2.1 in shuffle 1800 2s/3s

[fierce elm]

2s/3s seems fine

Your shuffle is going to be 20-30 minutes most likely

[quasi zephyr]

yeag

yeah*

[fierce elm]

sd

usually when they announce season ending there will be faster queues

[urban skiff]

i had 3-9 minutes last night

[fierce elm]

at 1900mmr yeah

if he is sitting 2100 getting a 3 or 9 minute queue he is lucky

[copper fox]

Shuffle qs @ 2.3 tonight are popping at like 10 minutes

2 in a row

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

[copper fox]

But

But

[fierce elm]

b u t

[copper fox]

My first lobby was 30 minutes

So

Idk

[fierce elm]

My ass was sitting 30 minute queues yday at like 20-23 lmao

at 2.2 mmr

[copper fox]

30-10-10 so far

On NA

[restive cobalt]

@fallen estuary get rekt

[copper fox]

Sunday qs are usually solid

[fallen estuary]

you were in my bg

?

[fallen estuary]

oh yea i saw

[fierce elm]

kek

[fallen estuary]

crazy our rogue refused to go offcart

he was screaming STAY LAVA whole game LMAO

[restive cobalt]

Trying to get my alt main spec up to my fury cr

We spam died lava all game till towards the end we finally started killing y'all's heals

[fallen estuary]

we started dying cause everyones going lava and we tried splintering off to offcarts

[restive cobalt]

My mains 3k fury but arms feels so much better in blitz

Yea we got y'all on a solid split

[fallen estuary]

cause everyone has a lemming mentality to hear the worst advice and follow it

rogue says stay lava everyone fears for their life and stays lava

absolutely clueless people lmao

gg tho we woulda won if we had competent rogues but unfortunately rogues arent smart and is carried only by their cc

[restive cobalt]

That one wipe lava turned the mask momentum for sure

Our hunter refused to go offcarts for awhile as well

[fallen estuary]

everyone has a ego yea

theyre too good for objectives

i hate players like that

but no worries theyll be back down to 1500 mmr next season when they gut mmr

[restive cobalt]

Yea I know duel, he's pretty good usually

Yea it's not gonna be inflated like this season was

They just want high participation in a new game mode

[fallen estuary]

😬

idk from what he was telling us to do

he was the one telling us to stop going offcarts

[restive cobalt]

He rbgs alot, that's mainly what I've done since cata

[fallen estuary]

was he the callouts guy

[restive cobalt]

He probably was worried y'all would wipe lava then snowball, kinda like what happened

Callouts?

[fallen estuary]

rbg teams has a player dedicated for callouts and objectives

[restive cobalt]

Oh no.

[fallen estuary]

oh that figures

[restive cobalt]

He calls rogue things usually but that's it

🤣

He's got a few heros

[fallen estuary]

thats a rated bg participation trophy

how many glads does he got?

oooo hidden profile

[restive cobalt]

Not exactly, hero was extremely hard to get the last few seasons

I think 2 glads

I missed hero by lit 1 slot last season lol

Talk about mad as f

[fallen estuary]

hero cutoffs were like 2200 for rated bgs and rank 1 was like 2400

[restive cobalt]

No. Hero cutoff was 2601

Season prior it was 2450 and prior to that it was 2445

[copper fox]

I missed hero on my lock s1 DF by 2 slots I think I was like 2420ish

[hasty pulsar]

how does cutoff work is there a website i should check

[copper fox]

Armory usually shows

[fierce elm]

Sera has cutoffs

that are estimated

[exotic forge]

@restive cobalt gg

just found out it was you in ToK

[restive cobalt]

ggs bro

[exotic forge]

people don't know how to carry orbs

[restive cobalt]

braxxin was cranking

we just spam wiped yall all game

[exotic forge]

he didn't beat me in damage tho

but ya our dps were very lacking

[restive cobalt]

Yes he did lol

He was top DMG in whole bg

[green wharf]

man, pvp pool is so low, that people get matched like this

[fierce elm]

They are playing at r1 rating

of course its a low pool up there

[green wharf]

i knew a guy who got pisses that at 2.1 he was playing against someone at 2.9

and got stomped

[fierce elm]

Though tbf the pool at like 2100+ in 3s are playing together too kek

[green wharf]

wow is joever

[exotic forge]

Love when people leave at my 2,4k shuffle game

[copper fox]

Just had a shot of espresso at 8pm

[boreal veldt]

🫡

[fallen estuary]

thats nothing

kennie knows my monster habits

[vapid tartan]

my bad

[exotic forge]

yeah don't leave you coward

[copper fox]

lol brother I invented white monster Wednesday

I’ve already had 3 of those today I’m just capping the night off with the espresso

[fallen estuary]

you didnt invent work day monster night

[copper fox]

That’s true

[fallen estuary]

chug 2 monsters on a work night

[fallen estuary]

LMAO

[copper fox]

My IG is mostly white monster memes

lol

[green wharf]

it doesnt affect me

hate this

i drink this shit and i get a good nap

coffe doesnt work as well

[copper fox]

Same. It’s great for naps. 1 for naps, 3 for energy

[green wharf]

have to keep awake by sheer hate and spite towards life itself

[copper fox]

An ice cold white monster

Crisp out the fridge

Fresh af

[verbal tangle]

White Monster? You mean boomer juice?

[exotic forge]

all I need is a cuppa and I'm swell

[fierce elm]

White Monster and Nicotine is the way to start the day

Long-term consequences of my living are no part of my mind

[green wharf]

no one live forever

[copper fox]

Idk the majority of my following is young so you might be a little behind brother

[copper fox]

Wait I got you

[verbal tangle]

35+ ain't young brother

[copper fox]

It ain’t 35+ 😂

35+ lowest % so you gotta speed up on your trend knowledge

[green wharf]

its look like my breakfast

[copper fox]

Love some dry ramen

[green wharf]

i would only need to eat again at night

[floral widget]

guys at general

do yall think this updates on 11.1

are that bad or its good?

#updates-midnight message

[copper fox]

It’s a very small buff

So it’s fine

[floral widget]

nice

[green wharf]

honestly

im on the fence

the talent tree looks the same, so it doesnt seem like they changed anything on that, and we lost the 10% less time sapped

they nerfed reckless abandon

they nerfed prot rage generation

dragon charge was gutted and now replaces heroic leap

awful changes, with some lil buffs here and there

[copper fox]

Fury is buffed

Everything else is irrelevant

[verbal tangle]

Prot tier is actually fucking goated

[green wharf]

i didnt stop to read about the tier sets yet, but im not found of power be tied to that

especially when they are so nerfed in pvp

[verbal tangle]

Protection
(2) Set: Each time you take damage you have a chance to activate Luck of the Draw! causing you to cast Shield Wall for 4 seconds. Your damage done is increased by 15% for 10 seconds after Luck of the Draw! activates.

(4) Set: During Luck of the Draw! Sheild Slam’s chance to critically strike is increased by 50% and its critical strikes reduce the cooldown of Shield Charge by 6 seconds.

[green wharf]

the proc chance will be so damn small

[verbal tangle]

2pc literally can give you free Avatar procs with Immovable Object

Which is Thane stonks

[verbal tangle]

Considering it has to be big enough to be felt by pve players I doubt it

[exotic forge]

What embellishment is the most used one currently? Lens? Double lens?

[green wharf]

i cant see blizz giving random shield wall for free often

[green wharf]

more popular right now is double lens

[exotic forge]

thanks paisano

[green wharf]

[verbal tangle]

It's 4 secs

It's not a full Shield Wall

[green wharf]

can do a lot in 4 secs

if its procs often then we are going to be nerfed pretty hard

[slow solstice]

thought you quit bub

[green wharf]

I did, im busy helping Arkantos save the world

though i think will have to use one token tomorow

[slow solstice]

yeah

me

too

[green wharf]

cause i need the achivement from the winter veil

[slow solstice]

wtf is winter veil

all i know is im going to be raiding

and this is not going to elt me

[green wharf]

the christmas event in wow

isnt called winter veil?

if its another thing i dunno

[slow solstice]

idk i dont do achievement hunting

i play pve

[green wharf]

but thats pve

i dont usually do either, but this one is important

[slow solstice]

this is pve

🙂

ignore the atrocity that occured

[green wharf]

i need for this beauty

[slow solstice]

holy

[shut tangle]

YO

caps*

is mountainthane new spec for fury

was looking at murlok and 4/5 top warriors are mountainthane

[sharp meteor]

depends

thane giga cleave

if u boxing 2+ people all game its huge

[shut tangle]

So should i be slayer or mountainthane

[sharp meteor]

it

depends

[shut tangle]

What comp would i be running slayer over mountain

[sharp meteor]

i just play thane every game unless its 2s but im forcing it

think of slayer as more single target and bigger bladestorm goes

and thane as prolonged pve 2+ target cleave dps

at least that's how i do

[shut tangle]

So its double melee cleave

[sharp meteor]

sitting on sp + cleaving their arms warr = thane

hitting dk + dh = thane

chasing isolated target like moonkin or aff = slayer

2v2 = slayer

[shut tangle]

hmm okay

thanks

[green wharf]

Its the chad most fun option

all though a bit behind slayer in ST

[urban skiff]

usually two, one for

[urban skiff]

two actually, one for coordinating kills and one for objectives

They both think they're the ones in charge and deserve praise for winning

[green wharf]

i always deserve praise for winning

[urban skiff]

who else upgrading soon?

5090 + 9800x3d sounds dope

now i can finally reach 150 fps in 1080p

[rapid shore]

im waiting 9900x3d/9950x3d :D

[fierce elm]

hell no

still happy with my 3080

[urban skiff]

holy crap you must be productive as heck

[urban skiff]

upgraded from 4070 to 4070 ti super when my wife built her pc

she took my 4070 i got the super

[rapid shore]

Very😂

[urban skiff]

what do you use that kind of power for?

I was going to buy a couple of 9800x3d and keep them in case price went wild or equip if they stayed the same but I kinda lost interest

Might still be worth it if I can get a few before The Tariff Princess takes the throne in january

what the fuck is that rogue cooking with