pvp

[fierce elm]

its like all 10s I think

[green wharf]

isnt 10 like stupid in this season

cause the scale from 6 tp 8 is absurd

or smt

[fierce elm]

its pretty simple

But it depends on luck in LFG if you LFG it

[green wharf]

yeah i had to, no one i know play anymore

lul

thats why i only did SS and blitz

[rancid granite]

how easy is the later 2 compared to 2400 in pvp

[fierce elm]

2500 in m+ is pretty easy

cutting edge is rough

Like 2500 in m+ is easily the fastest and easiest

depending on what you play already

Of course, if you have a group its easier

but frankly its pretty simple

If you dont have any gear its gonna take longer but you can easily ifnish 2500 before season end

[rancid granite]

ilvl620

[fierce elm]

yeah you should be fine

[rancid granite]

i didnt know you get it from 2400 though in pvp maybe ill continue to shoot for that

[fierce elm]

yeah it from all 3 things

[rancid granite]

if i can get 2350 i can get 2400

[fierce elm]

its this one

[fierce elm]

There has to be some correlation with playing sub and being a toxic degen

[urban skiff]

Welp, great news. My grandma is no longer dying

Christmas maybe not ruined

[fierce elm]

CHRISTMAS SAVED

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/2omb-pray-prayge-gif-24836268

[urban skiff]

it's definitely happier than it was yesterday

[fickle forge]

Grats man, we both getting a Christmas then

[urban skiff]

Now just need to figure out how to get kids to go to their grandparents' so we can get a few days of peace before having kids locked up in the house for 2 weeks straight

@slow solstice

[karmic axle]

the new ring is good for pvp right? lots of stas

[fierce elm]

no

its nerfed

by 75%

[karmic axle]

thats for the on proc, but what about all the flat stat gems

[fierce elm]

also nerfed

[urban skiff]

They should have just made pvp gems for it

idk why they couldn't do that

[boreal veldt]

i'm still impressed how quickly they walked back the timegate on earning all them gems

with the quickness

[green wharf]

they knew its was not going to be liked

they put anyway to see if people eat it

[urban skiff]

110% certain the devs already called it a shit idea to the beancounters who wanted it designed that way, and they prepped a solution in advance

[green wharf]

then they change to say they are listening

[green wharf]

this

[urban skiff]

I promise you, they don't do that

Managers absolutely hate when something they do reflects poorly on their department

[fierce elm]

Do not try to reason with Syegfryed and his conspiracies

it will lead to a circle

[urban skiff]

Most likely the guys who coded it made a solution in advance and we got lucky this time that whomever was product manager on this part of the patch was quick to listen

[urban skiff]

bro, you know me.

I just have to make the drama

[green wharf]

"fixing the issue" by saying they are "listening to players" is a PR move to look good on the department

[urban skiff]

that's not how PR works

[green wharf]

explain removing flight then

[urban skiff]

The cost is greater than the gain

[urban skiff]

They want us to be on the ground this time around because aesthetics

You won't appreciate flight if you don't have ground speed and you won't appreciate the new ground mount if you haven't played a patch on the ground on the regular mount

[boreal veldt]

PR is giving players during a shitty shadowlands expac a free tree mount for playing the game

[fierce elm]

cant wait to drift at 3-5 times ground speed

[urban skiff]

It's actually better than we think

[fierce elm]

its gonna be wildly fast

[urban skiff]

Part of the reason we get disconnected when using charge is because the game's logic for tracking movement

[boreal veldt]

Gonna be sad if we cant drift with the new bike mounts

[urban skiff]

We get disconnected because the game reasons we cannot have moved a specific distance in X amount of time. The addition of the new mount speed means they're going to increase the threshold

if we're really unlucky it won't fix anything because the lax detection will only be active in areas that are tagged for use with the new ground mount

It might even fix disconnects from mind control.

[green wharf]

is this sarcasm

[fierce elm]

Would be fun to get dingy ass flying mounts

[urban skiff]

It's an artistic choice, we can't be upset with those.

[fierce elm]

that cant hold speed, hold direction

can explode

DIY goblin way

[urban skiff]

That's like complaining we get a patch full of goblins and steampunk. It's part of the game

[boreal veldt]

waaaagh

[urban skiff]

If they made the area for flight it would have been 10 times bigger and your travel time would have been the exact same. But now you've got to move longer whenever you aren't mounted to do stuff.

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

I mean, I get YOU can.

Like a super power

[green wharf]

its just so that you waste more time ingame, why are we pretending otherwise

either way my goodwill with the devs is officially done, after they removed pet from MM and forced a shit bird

when they could have just made MM cast BL

[fierce elm]

Didnt you already unsub?

Meaning your goodwill was already over?

[green wharf]

no, it just meant i didnt use my token

cause no time to play

[urban skiff]

GOOOD

I pay for this game, I WANT to be playing it

idk how to explain this more clear

[green wharf]

content = 🔴
wasting time walking = 🟢

[boreal veldt]

I mean 80% of our time is gonna be waiting in queue anyway.

Same as it ever was

[urban skiff]

not sure why you see it as wasting time

part of MMO is having to traverse the world

I don't waste my time when I walk back from a death in Dark Souls. I don't waste my time when I have to ride across the map in Elden Ring

Why is it suddenly a waste of time when it's in WoW?

[rancid granite]

cause its fun to complain

[green wharf]

i like to traverse the world flying on me dragon

[urban skiff]

my psychology teacher called it "contact complainers". The people who just pour their hearts out with negativity to the poor cashier who just wants to move on to the next customer.

[green wharf]

not walking around in a ground mount

[urban skiff]

It's literally the same thing

[green wharf]

clearly isnt

[urban skiff]

🙃

What's the difference?

[green wharf]

you are not asking for real

[rancid granite]

trauma dumping is the newage term i guess? people just fill up on negativity and instead of smothering it like an oil fire they release it out into the world and onto others

[urban skiff]

sure i am

[boreal veldt]

I didn't like korthia/maw's ground travel. But I think that's a different story.

[urban skiff]

It's not even trauma dumping I'm talking about. My boomer mother-in-law starts talking about her dogs' anal glands to the cashier any chance she gets

[rancid granite]

lmao

[urban skiff]

just pure insanity

[rancid granite]

people forget videogames are supposed to be fun

i always hear of anxiety over q'ing pvp and etc

[boreal veldt]

i get this as a bartender 8 days of the week

[rancid granite]

like man if i ever experience anxiety over a videogame pls bash my computer to bits for me and make me touch grass

[fierce elm]

I have that

in new games I play

then play one game and realize its just pixels on a screen

[green wharf]

first is the way you take flying, second is the one you take on ground mount

second one takes longer

[fierce elm]

Id take the ground path to see the world

[boreal veldt]

to be clear, there will probably be flight paths

[urban skiff]

so ground is superior?

Idk why you're complaining then

[urban skiff]

I'm gonna pour one tonight in your honour

[green wharf]

dont you only do dungeons though

[boreal veldt]

🍻

[green wharf]

if you want to waste time, yeah, if you dont, then no

[urban skiff]

you're not gonna like it, but i'm gonna try a dry lemon vodka with something I haven't decided on yet tonight

maybe raspberry soda

if i could mix it with strawberry that would be pretty cool

[fierce elm]

wtf no

[boreal veldt]

i actually got a lemon vodka grey goose out of a christmas party the other day, and it's not bad

[fierce elm]

Personally am a enjoyer of being forced onto ground mounts

[rancid granite]

same unless there's god damn jetpacks involved

[urban skiff]

this one is a CUBA

[rancid granite]

then its just like give me flying mounts

[urban skiff]

so I assume pretty garbage tier

[fierce elm]

You get to see the world

and the artists in WoW dont fucking miss

[urban skiff]

same, makes it so stealth classes gets to use their kit

[boreal veldt]

grey goose is also garbage, just paying for the name imo

[urban skiff]

About to head out a shop, any tips on what I can mix it with for a fun experience?

I mixed sour raspberry with a raspberry soda and our mouthes turned into puckered assholes

that was fun

[boreal veldt]

vodka soda is nice, can get some vermouth and make a martini with it

[urban skiff]

I could go for some sangria but it's winter so maybe I'll make glögg instead

Who doesn't like scalding hot redwine with cinnamon

[boreal veldt]

Me and my wine hangovers

[urban skiff]

Man i love red wine

idk when it happened but from one day to the next i learned to love it

[green wharf]

jeus, hot alchool is a no no

[fierce elm]

Glögg is a yes yes

[urban skiff]

Calling fellow glögg enjoyers

[boreal veldt]

i've only witnessed it once where the host of the event itself brought it and had us taste it, hooooly

[urban skiff]

goood hoooooly or bad?

[boreal veldt]

good if i remember correctly lmao

[urban skiff]

It's amazing, but i always skip the nuts and the raisins

I just don't want to choke like that

[fierce elm]

The nuts and raisins are wack

[urban skiff]

yeah scooping them up after when they've soaked all the juices is great

[fierce elm]

I just have Glögg with nothing else

a gingerbread cookie

and a lussekatt

[urban skiff]

i just don't want to literally choke because I drink it too eagerly

IKEA's glögg is great

idk how they managed to make a bottled product good like that but yea

for the price

[fierce elm]

I mean Glögg isnt expensive

Especially if you can make it on your own

[urban skiff]

it's as expensive as the wine you use

[fierce elm]

The wine they sell

its different

You can make your own wine for a fraction of the cost

Although Ikea absolutely has stuff that are on a loss-margin

[urban skiff]

I got a couple of expensive bottles as a christmas present from my land contractors however.

might use one for glögg and save the rest for cooking

[fierce elm]

Ever since we made Mead I just find prices absurd in stores lmao

[urban skiff]

it's a 3 liter bottle

[urban skiff]

it's on my list of things to do eventually but feels like the kind of thing you want to join a club to do, to get some generational knowledge instead of learning online

for the best result

[fierce elm]

We went online and to a local brewery

and asked them

Its extremely dummy simple

It all comes down to cleanliness, honey used and what yeast

and of course, leaving it the fuck alone

[urban skiff]

There's a thousand local breweries here, i've been meaning to ask if they have any projects I can look at. I need more contacts that aren't earth or welding or building.

[hasty pulsar]

i realized anytime theres not a paladin in my lobby i do decently lol

tired of bops and freedoms and shit

did i read double bop is going away in 11.1

[urban skiff]

they're getting a HoP for spells

that shares cooldown with HoP

[hasty pulsar]

hmmm ya i saw that

but is it true their double bop going away

i swear i thought i heard/read that

[fierce elm]

Double bop is going away

they are getting Spellwarding instead

[hasty pulsar]

thank god

spellwarding strong dont get me wrong

but doesnt really affect me lmao

[fierce elm]

Hpala is taking massive hits next patch from the numbers shown so far

[hasty pulsar]

good

[urban skiff]

really? I thought they sounded hyped

[fierce elm]

They are angery

[hasty pulsar]

good

more paladin tears the better in my book

[fierce elm]

Ret is also taking some hits

[hasty pulsar]

tired of my kill target getting bop'd every other time i try to kill them

[fierce elm]

because they are making weird changes when it comes to PvP talents

that I dont understand

Also giving us a PvP talent that makes Bubble see stealth targets

is weird lmao

[hasty pulsar]

i mean even for us its weird

we getting dragon charge lol

never thought I would see that personally lol

but i guess kinda cool

[urban skiff]

My wife wants me to befriend her classmate because he has no friends.

On one hand, sure. I can use a bro and be a bro

On the other, there's probably a reason he has no friends.

What do

[fierce elm]

You find out why he has no friends

lmao

You can always break it off

[fickle forge]

The fact that BoP has like 2.5m CD as well

And you get 2

[urban skiff]

Yeah but i don't want to reject someone who has nobody else. That seems like a pretty heavy burden

[fierce elm]

Then slowly introduce yourself

It could just be that he is an introvert

[urban skiff]

She'll still see him for another year through school so i can't just ghost him if he turns so super awkward that breaking up isn't possible.

[fierce elm]

You can be okay friends

that is a thing lmao

[urban skiff]

I don't like having no exit plans

True. I just like being the best friend

Not like, THEIR best friend. But like i don't want to half-ass something as intimate as friendships

I'm probably at least 12 years older than him so maybe it's gonna be more a mentorship / Daddyship thing

[fierce elm]

kek

just slowly become friends

maybe he is just a loner

[faint girder]

Im not opposed to give some feedback on this matter - but why post it here in #pvp ?

[urban skiff]

I'll give it a shot

[urban skiff]

It's what we do in here. Game is solved for pvp so we're just keeping the lights on

[faint girder]

What about a stance-switching-macro? or do we never change to def stance when getting bursted etc?

[north thicket]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[stance:1,known:386164]!Battle Stance;[stance:1,known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[faint girder]

thx!

[faint girder]

All right .. well Im new here so dont know how the "waters" are 🙂

[fierce elm]

Its okay big man

See this as more of an open forum where people can just chat shit most of the time

That will answer any sort of PvP questions that are posted

We have found that a more active channel can lead to more engagement from the community in general rather than being strictly on topic all the time

[faint girder]

I like that

[fickle forge]

He's PvP'ing his wife on this one

[fierce elm]

kek

[rancid granite]

oh yeah taurine got you; those are great... maybe spear cast @ cursor

[faint girder]

no spear in the Fury build atm

[fierce elm]

Some are experimenting with spear in Fury

Honestly dragon roar just seems to unimportant

[rancid granite]

binding ground mount + battleshout is lovely too

oh and ignore pain + victory rush same button

mouse over heroic throw...mouse over kick, storm bolt @ focus target

[faint girder]

this one would be nice, but no ignore pain in fury unfortunatly

[sharp meteor]

😐

[rancid granite]

FREES UP A BUTTON

[urban skiff]

this is a simpler version

#showtooltip
/use [stance:2] !Defensive Stance
/use [spec:2,nostance:2] !Berserker Stance
/use [spec:1/3,nostance:2] !Battle Stance

[rancid granite]

if you're on someone and don't want to victory rush just turn and use it np

[urban skiff]

roar is just to buff your partner's damage

lol

at least it feels that way

[urban skiff]

she doesn't want to duel me anymore

idk why

[slow solstice]

thats huge

[urban skiff]

You've got little time left to beat world all the way through fatalis

Rise is great but almost a different game entirely from world and wilds

[faint girder]

best 2s healer for fury for push?

[urban skiff]

what's your favoured style and when you say push do you mean a specific rating goal or as high as possible?

[boreal veldt]

depends on rating goals but i really enjoy hpal or rsham

[frank knoll]

What’s this new Avowed game

[urban skiff]

action RPG

idk if it's singleplayer or not

but expect skyrim by the guys who made pillars of eternity

[frank knoll]

Hmmm interesting
I’m actually looking at trying Star Wars Outlaws or that new Forever Winter game coming out

[faint girder]

as high as possible

[urban skiff]

where might that normally land you?

[boreal veldt]

man's shooting for #1 glad

[rancid granite]

this description alone GOTY incoming

[urban skiff]

X to doubt

We're getting elden ring nightreign same year

[dark topaz]

finally done

[faint girder]

haha not really, just want a smooth ride to as high as my abilities take me

[rancid granite]

most random game but it looks great lol

[boreal veldt]

maybe prevoker if we're talking strictly meta i guess
but it really comes down to how well you and your partner work together and level of skill

just zug hard, cc well, and don't los heals

maybe hop in the in game voice/disc to get real sweaty lol

[fierce elm]

Hpala

without a doubt

[tough sandal]

Is it worth running Cyrce's in PvP? If so, which citrines should I focus on?

[fierce elm]

nope

[boreal veldt]

nop

[fierce elm]

75% nerfed flat out in PvP

[tough sandal]

Allllllright yeah that'll turn it from great into useless

Thanks!

[slow solstice]

deserved

my minigame is better than yours

[lavish quest]

You play the main game nerd

We play the mini game

We are not the same

[fickle forge]

I would just like to announce that Spear colo is the way now

You heard it here first

[urban skiff]

already been running it

then i caved and gave troar slayer a chance and like.. eh

[slow solstice]

already been the way in silken court noober

[fierce elm]

Thinking about spear fury tbh lmao

fuck dragon roar

THUNDEROUS ROAR mb

[sharp meteor]

roar cool if u play honor talent

otherwise ya its bad

spear good for uptime and

crit amp good with reck and execute crit stackies

[fierce elm]

Im just playing for memes anyways

Could get some fun interactions

And playing thane could be fun

[fickle forge]

Sure as hell wasn't the way in arena

1 dood on Murlok picking this shit, and it's me lmao

[urban skiff]

idk what it is but I'm just not feeling thane fury

Superman calling his dog Krypto is like us watching earth blow up then calling our dog for Eartho

[fierce elm]

Why is my warrior 2.2 mmr lmao

these are some fucking geared chads

[urban skiff]

idk, i got hit with 2k from my first win

i think i'm at 1950 now

if this keeps up i can get to 1800 by losing

[fierce elm]

yeah

lmao

I dont like it

I just wanna ez pz my way to 1800

not sweat

[tough sandal]

Same here, I just want to unlock the 1800 stuff

But I bet it's gonna be a slog haha

[fierce elm]

This is my pump and dump character

[copper fox]

If you’re 2.2 then you should get 1.8 in like 3-4 shuffles

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

[copper fox]

Ez

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

nice first lobby of the night

[urban skiff]

literally same

super weird how much easier it was to get on my shaman

[copper fox]

That’s what happened with my high mountain Tauren I ended up 6-0 first shuffle still in greens and got 2k cr in 4 shuffle’s but needed gear badly after that lol

Not all greens… some box pieces + greens

Got clapped after that tho

[urban skiff]

oh look healer decided to start out afk

[fickle forge]

First lobby I did as fury I was in full raiding gear

[slow solstice]

based

[sharp meteor]

crit bad

[fierce elm]

yeah 70 rating for a 3-3 is fine

I apologize for the warrior I faced if you are in here lmao

[copper fox]

I am a close to 20% haste enjoyer on fury

Then rest mastery

You have so much crit

True maybe the 6% haste under it makes the double digit crit look massive

You have too much vers tho

If that’s not in combat stats

Is that in combat?

Oh I misunderstood

I thought you meant it was no pvp combat

Got it

[urban skiff]

looks like I'm losing 10 mmr per round lost in shuffle right now

[green wharf]

Hopefully they make this shit target one target, like shaman earthquake

they did that with warlock rain of fire

its annoying to macro @cursor

[urban skiff]

I do @player instead

It's less optimal but it's also less brainstuff to land

[wheat jay]

warr+dh next season?

[fierce elm]

kek

[fickle forge]

But DH is above Z-tier then sure

And if you can do DAMAGE for once

[wheat jay]

bruh

i do dmg on dh

not like it shard xD

[fickle forge]

No the fuck you do not

I played with it not too long ago

[wheat jay]

AND WE WON

HELLO!?

[fierce elm]

Karg is a hater

[fickle forge]

At 1600

[urban skiff]

rate my new mog

fun lobbies ahead

I'm seeing a steep rise in number of dh, did they get buffed enough for another dhpocalypse?

[boreal veldt]

i feel griefed

[fickle forge]

That may just be an MMR thing

Or maybe it's just a shuffle thing

They still don't exist in 3s

[boreal veldt]

not a single 2400 dh is wild

good

[wheat jay]

my point still stands

wanna play more?

huh

HUH

[wheat jay]

no, its the worst spec in the game XD

[boreal veldt]

is holy priest really that bad atm, just got mine to 80

[sharp meteor]

gonna miss barbarian lads

[fickle forge]

Let's talk when DH gets a 70% buff

[wheat jay]

see this is why youre wack 😦

[fickle forge]

Just roll that fucking enh sham already man

What are you doing clinging onto 10 dead specs

[wheat jay]

i dunno

i dont rly feel enh

want to level up together?

[fickle forge]

If you don't feel it then why level?

[fierce elm]

what are you doing clinging onto a dead spec

[fickle forge]

Hpala is a dead spec?

[fierce elm]

Arms

[fickle forge]

Yeah maybe beat it on rating before you talk lil' bro

[fierce elm]

lmao

[fickle forge]

Artji be taking 10 months break from arena and then come back like 'I'll play, but only DH, frost DK or survival hunter'

[fierce elm]

I am 1 RATING BELOW YOU

ON MY OUTLAW

[fickle forge]

Destroyed

[fierce elm]

You wanted to play TSG though

[wheat jay]

BITCH THAT'S TWO MORE CHOICES THAN WHAT YOU GIVE ME!?

[urban skiff]

LOOK UPON MY BODY AND KNOW LUST

[fierce elm]

God logging in and sitting queue feels BAD

[fickle forge]

I'd let you play frost DK, but I am also very afraid to see you play frost DK

[fierce elm]

lmao

[wheat jay]

how?

[fierce elm]

Kargish treats Artji so badly

[wheat jay]

literallyh ow

[fierce elm]

Karg is like "Level DK afro"

[urban skiff]

Gonna miss having 2x charge heroic leap dragon charge shield charge

[fierce elm]

None of this "Id be scared"

[wheat jay]

i was playing one of the hardest specs in the game

got glad on it

was in top 0.3% in 2s on it

[fierce elm]

carried

[fickle forge]

And that was 20 years ago mf

[wheat jay]

and you're telling me i'm not gonna be able to spam obliterate?

bitch

suck my left nut

[fierce elm]

Tbf you have also played only huge mobility specs

outside of Warrior

[fickle forge]

Yeah cause that's not the fucking gameplay of frost DK lmao

[urban skiff]

fdk pumping if you play against people who are mildly braindead like me

[wheat jay]

HOW IS IT NOT!?

[fickle forge]

FDK pumps if you can group people yeah

[fierce elm]

fdk requires huge brain to press three buttons

[wheat jay]

ahh right

grip

blinding sleet

dragon

[fickle forge]

No

Stop

[wheat jay]

or did i miss a step?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[fickle forge]

You have lost all right to talk about shit like it's trivial

[fierce elm]

Dont forget Strang after CC

[fickle forge]

[fierce elm]

huge brain

[wheat jay]

oh right

[fierce elm]

Then the re-grip into the pack

dont forget that one

[wheat jay]

kargish, me landing a trap required more brain than your whole class

not spec

class

[fickle forge]

I watched your arms and survival gameplay recently man

[wheat jay]

so stfu xD

[fickle forge]

You've washed into the middle of the continent

[fierce elm]

He is just rusty man

Nobody plays with him

[fickle forge]

He's so rusty lmao

[wheat jay]

YE

[fickle forge]

Cause Artji never plays the game

[wheat jay]

CUZ NOONE PLAYS WITH HIM

I ASKED LIKE 50 TIMES

[fickle forge]

So we need 200 warmup games before he's back

[wheat jay]

AND I ALWAYS HEARD "no"

[fickle forge]

Yeah let's fucking play KFC brother

[wheat jay]

nah afro imma go to his shithole country and break his neck

[fickle forge]

I'm only refusing your DH lmao

And you wanna die on the hill you want to play DH

So we're at an impass man

[fierce elm]

You are refusing his survival too

[wheat jay]

ye

stop capping kargish

xD

i have asked NUMEROUS times

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff HOW ARE YOU GETTING QUEUES

[fickle forge]

That's cap

I am never refusing KFC

[urban skiff]

pretty fast at 2k mmr

idk

[fickle forge]

It's only James that refuses it because Artji won't go BM

[fierce elm]

bro what the fuck lmao

[urban skiff]

but i'm at the stupid rating where half the people i play with are on their first games and definitely on a downward trajectory

[wheat jay]

that's with only this sentence, this year

[urban skiff]

and you'll notice the total number of games player, some people are definitely protecting their MMR by leaving

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge you both suck dick

[fierce elm]

pulling out the receipts

[wheat jay]

thats only two sentences

fuck you kargish xD

[fickle forge]

Those are messages for DRAGONFLIGHT man

[fierce elm]

lmao

[fickle forge]

And we DID play in DF

What the fuck man

[fierce elm]

artji is waiting for you man

[wheat jay]

ye we played so much i had most of my games with lfg

on both survi and dh xD

[fickle forge]

"Look how many times i asked 🤓"
Posts screenshots of our convos pre-TWW

[boreal veldt]

damn not the recipts

[fickle forge]

What the fuck brother, I spammed hero cleave with you to no end

[fierce elm]

: )

[wheat jay]

ye, i had more with lfg

onboth survi and dh xD

[urban skiff]

nah

[fickle forge]

Bruh Artji is actually projecting on me right now

[wheat jay]

dude

I was playing for glad

with lfg

trying

very fucking hard

i was playing both dogshit survi, and OP AS FUCK dh

[urban skiff]

leavers are messing with the numbers but sure, 5-6 total matches if we don't count leavers

[wheat jay]

which i played well on

I WAS PLAYING LIKE A GOD

and i have clips proving it

whole games even

we didnt have a healer

[fickle forge]

How has Artji gaslighted himself into believing this stuff man

[wheat jay]

cuz he wanted to play cringe rot comp with rogue having negative iq when it came to pressing defensives

actual dog player

[urban skiff]

playing KT human is hardmode

no hit confirmation on attacks

makes it borderline impossible to play fury

[wheat jay]

that is the worst thign about kt

[fickle forge]

You have no idea how much you pissed off James the last time we did KFC lmao

The singing after being silent for a minute straight sent him lmao

[urban skiff]

it's not just bad, it's really bad. When haste swings a lot I need the sounds to know what my GCD is in the moment

arms almost as bad with In For The Kill procs

[wheat jay]

he pissed me off when i wanted to play for glad, made an alt to play meta, specifically to play with afro and him cuz we didnt do well on php

so he has 0 say in the matter of pissing someone off

[wheat jay]

ye i know, i used the toy to turn into KT, its terrible

cant feel your rotation at all

[urban skiff]

KT human male is missing sound files for when attacks hit

[fickle forge]

So are you gonna get back in the loop with your survival hunter then?

[wheat jay]

i dunno, maybe

not this season that's for sure

[urban skiff]

THIS

But haymake is fucking amazing in arena

and BGB

[fickle forge]

I mean you do you man, my warr doesn't have anyone to play with rn

[wheat jay]

we could have easily gotten glad on all comps we had in s4

[urban skiff]

Just launch a healer straight into the shadow realm almost around a pillar

[fickle forge]

I won't lie bro, I would probably have gone insane

Affli+assassa made me cringe to no end

[wheat jay]

we had what, 4 comps?

[urban skiff]

like this sword

[wheat jay]

kfc, warr+dh, hero cleave, survi+dk

then with afro, php or ret+dh

of those, 3 were acutally good

even 4

only kfc and warr dh were kinda weak

[fickle forge]

Man, Artji holds grudges

I had no idea

Man's like a cat

[wheat jay]

i dont hold a grudge, but if you wanna talk about wanting to play games with me, dont act like i never ask for it

[urban skiff]

it's a classic, reminds me of TBC mace-spec rogue/warrior in s2

[wheat jay]

only to be ignored

[urban skiff]

I wanna say s2 at least

[fickle forge]

You gotta be real man, lmao

I deny your DH only

Because I have literally nothing to play with it

If I had a boomkin we could at least meme that

[wheat jay]

you denied kfc too xD

[fickle forge]

I ain't denying KFC for shit

I'm a KFC enthusiast remember?

[urban skiff]

somehow i idon't have those weapons in my mog library even though i literally played with them

feels bad

[fickle forge]

I played KFC recently even

[wheat jay]

we dont play, so no i dont remember

[fickle forge]

You AREN'T PLAYING THIS SEASON you said

[wheat jay]

anyway, s2 im getting another rework to survi

[urban skiff]

iconic shit

[wheat jay]

and to dh xD

survi getting new hero tree

AGAIN

more tree changes toop

[fierce elm]

he did say that

[urban skiff]

i have a bs character that's existed since vanilla

pretty sure i collected the old recipes, no clue what it takes to make the new ones

[exotic forge]

Lionheart Executioner, Reborn was iconic

[wheat jay]

love how afro is fact checking everything we say

xD

[fickle forge]

So am I

So where is that enh/DK at huh?

Remember this very RECENT conversation we had huh?

[wheat jay]

wtf is that?

[urban skiff]

rate my new lobby

lol

guess it's banner day today

[wheat jay]

71lvl enh

xD

[fickle forge]

I'm waiting on it, if not your survival

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

hurry up or you miss the current builds and have to play weird elementalist

[fickle forge]

I rest my case brother

[fierce elm]

rolled

[wheat jay]

ye, two weeks ago, when i was asking since hte start of the season

fuck off

[fickle forge]

#1 gaslightertji

You're gonna log the fuck on tomorrow and then we Q

No more bitching

[wheat jay]

lmao

[fierce elm]

lmao

so angry

[fickle forge]

Yes

No more sidehoe behaviour

Pull the fuck up

And we play

[wheat jay]

no

jk jk

[fickle forge]

👋 😎

[wheat jay]

we can q some tomorrow

xD

what we queueing

[lavish quest]

Someone explain to me why Denounce still exists?

[fickle forge]

KFC

Unless I power level my enh sham

[urban skiff]

bad night for that hunter, losing 56 rating from one match

[exotic forge]

Fuck em

[urban skiff]

not a bad price right now

[fierce elm]

thats wild

I think I paid 20k for it in MoP or something like that

[lavish quest]

Inflation mah dood

[urban skiff]

right now is a good time to sell wow tokens for gold

I don't think price gonna go much more up

at least not until next patch

iirc you get recipe from making a daily material in MoP bs

lightning metal of sorts

Fuck game is 20 years old and I remember shit like this instead of my kids' birthdays

[fierce elm]

lmao SAD

[urban skiff]

these lobbies man

at least i get to wail on a warlock for 1 game. The rest he'll have a devoker or hpal to help kite

[fierce elm]

I am probably 2 shuffles away from 1800

sadge

[lavish quest]

You're still below 1800?

[fierce elm]

I keep queueing into 2200 people lmao

[fickle forge]

@wheat jay

[fierce elm]

My last lobby was Frost+demo+destro+rdruid+disc

kek

[fickle forge]

Not an Hpala, you got lucky

[fierce elm]

I am out here SWEATING

[lavish quest]

1800 was so 2 months ago

[fierce elm]

didnt get RNG lucky until yday

because I just bought boxes

[copper fox]

You should run train on this lobby ngl

[fierce elm]

I wanted to die

[copper fox]

😂

[fierce elm]

took the 3-3 and was happy with it

[copper fox]

The 3-3 never a bad thing

I’m just happy any time I don’t see a hpal

[fierce elm]

Havent played fury since BfA s1 kek

Havent touched warrior since DF s3 and that was only in 2s

[copper fox]

Ah

[fierce elm]

I just want the elite set and DIP

If I ever feel like playing Warrior in the future I got the drip for it

[copper fox]

Meanwhile the non elite set looks better than elite lol

But fr

Next seasons gear looks solid

[fierce elm]

Non-elite set just works with the PvP Fury artifact weapon and the mount from Stormheim

Looking like a fucking lightning wielder

[fickle forge]

Look at what you need to mimic a fraction of our power

[fierce elm]

lmao

[copper fox]

Right before I put my xmas mog on that’s exactly what I was running

The 2h present maces are hilarious on a cow

[fierce elm]

The elite weapons work so well with SL s2 elite too

Looking like a fucking maw-walker

But this seasons set is crazy good

[fickle forge]

Mawwalker 🤓

[fierce elm]

die

Go be offline nerd

[fickle forge]

Mawwalker

We need more soul ash for your legendary

Mawwalker

[wheat jay]

fam, don't

or i'll actually find you irl and smack yo ass into the ground

[fickle forge]

You and what gang brother

[rancid granite]

thats artji and his gang

[fickle forge]

He did pick up a stray cat recently

[rancid granite]

lolol

[wheat jay]

Say hello to the cat whose name i csnt say or ill get banned

[frank knoll]

Season 2 elite set winners
DH
DK
Shaman
Rogue
Hunter

[rancid granite]

tell them i said pspsps

[frank knoll]

Warrior one looks like WoD leveling gear

[rancid granite]

monk turns you into wukong goku super saiyan though???

im already making one

[frank knoll]

I wasn’t a DBZ kid so can’t relate

[exotic forge]

That monk set almost made me reroll ngl

Shaman looks better than whatever season 1 is

[wheat jay]

he's outside, cant hear shit

[urban skiff]

some rdruid linked his shadowlands gladiator title and shittalked me the entire match

apparently he was upset I didn't play like a gladiator

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

newsflash, I'm a shit player

and he still won 3 games and I won 2

so idk what that says about him

[fierce elm]

Being angry over people being bad is pretty wack

yall are the same MMR lmao

The game literally deems you equals

[urban skiff]

even worse, he was mad after the first round and it was one of the games where i was going with same healer for first 3 games

started talking about me in /say but like, nobody here steady but himself and myself when it's 3 rounds same

why can't people just be normal

[fierce elm]

who knows

Played with an rdruid, he was 2150 and didnt know how dispel worked

then got angry when I suggested he should dispel some roots so we can play the game

not angrily or anything, just like "Hey man, I am sitting a ton of roots and would like a dispel"

he had 2 dispels in a 3 minute round

[exotic forge]

Rating and titles don't matter especially in a setting like shuffle. Just play the damn game

[urban skiff]

just 7 more shuffle round wins until war done

Idk why it's such a chore this time.

all of DF warrior was bliss and pure joy to play

Same in shadowlands

now i play warrior and all I can think of is "wish i was playing my shaman"

[fierce elm]

lmao

you have tasted the sweet life

[urban skiff]

or feral or rogue or hpal

[fierce elm]

I just wanna play the game tbh

[urban skiff]

I've been a feral main since vanilla and warrior has been my "main alt" since the very tail end of vanilla.

Something is just really weird this time?

[urban skiff]

amen

I guess I feel like warrior is denied playing the most

[fierce elm]

Queue time is DENYING me

[urban skiff]

The shuffle with bm + dev + afflic + me was so painful

just waddling around

won one round just because I gave up and started hitting into the paladin

and I guess that made the devoker panic and hover closer, so I used haymaker to get him away(WHY DID I DO THAT?) and he used another hover charge to get back to me and was just.. All out and I could kill him

games at this rating are so weird

we all have cat brains

[urban skiff]

my queues are fast. 10 minutes tops

[fierce elm]

brother

[fierce elm]

the fuck do I spend my mark on at this point

I already have full gear lmao

get 4 piece for arms I guess

[urban skiff]

idk but I have same problem

guess i go buy epic trinkets, that's a start

[fierce elm]

bro I havent even gotten that quest to drop yet

[urban skiff]

yes you have

it's guaranteed on first bo

box

you put it in the bank or destroyed it or you haven't noticed it or you used it already 😦

[fierce elm]

I checked mail

nothing there either

[urban skiff]

what the fuck go finish your fury secret artifact weapon

[fierce elm]

lmao

where is it HUH

[frank knoll]

Gonna take another look
Hunter set gives sylvanis dark ranger which is cool
DH set looks like WC3 warden armor

[urban skiff]

iirc you need to kill odyn next

can't remember if it's raid or the dungeon

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

I gotta kill Odyn

I just cba lmao

but where are my 9 crafts

this game hates me

[urban skiff]

bro try something

go to the crafter and try

like this, bet it's in your bank reagent tab

the craft materials should be accessible from anywhere except regular bank

[fierce elm]

lmao

why would I put it in there

I havent looked at my bank in years

[urban skiff]

no clue

try it

the fuck is going on

I literally just sold off thousands of these at 11g a pop thinking I was clever after buying at 8g

why am I always lowest rated though

just once I want to be the big boy

[rancid granite]

just dont look

[fierce elm]

same lmao

I want to apologize to this warrior

also got the quest now

I am so sorry man

[urban skiff]

just 3 more wins

by the looks of it i get warrior 1800 before afro

[fierce elm]

Im waiting queue rn lmao

[urban skiff]

my mmr actually went up though

@fierce elm why so slow?

[fierce elm]

brother what the fuck lmao

Though my MMR is way higher than yours so thats probably whty

[urban skiff]

You dodging my queue??

[fierce elm]

I am WAITING for queue pop lmao

[urban skiff]

also aren't we both EU and same MMR?

[fierce elm]

I doubt the game puts us together

You are about 300mmr below me

[urban skiff]

that's purely bad luck

what is even going on

[fierce elm]

kek

[urban skiff]

aaaaand a garbo matchup

[fierce elm]

I will gladly take w.e MATCHUP

I need like a 2-4 at minimum lmao

if even that

[urban skiff]

aren't you like 1670 - 1730 CR?

[fierce elm]

1764

[urban skiff]

am i the only one who doesn't pick shattering throw vs rets?

this is bad

[fierce elm]

brother

GET ME A QUEUE

You are gonna finish and play another one before I get a queue

[urban skiff]

that's first win

don't have high mmr then

[fierce elm]

25 minutes rn

lmao

[urban skiff]

2 wins

one more i think

or it's gonna land me in high 90s

[fierce elm]

BROTHER

[urban skiff]

3rd win

if i can get a 4th i'm done before you

lol

[fierce elm]

oh my lord

just got into a game lmao

if this isnt enough I give up for the day

[urban skiff]

bro this is embarassing m8

[fierce elm]

fuck lmao

[urban skiff]

so now what

rogue or feral first

in theory i could push for 1950 but it's tradition at this point to always stop at 1800

[jovial torrent]

1950 for enchant hype

[rancid granite]

what do i do 10-80; grab anniversary buff and just spam q dungeons?

[urban skiff]

yep

are you on EU?

[rancid granite]

no sir

[urban skiff]

oh yeah you're NA'er

[rancid granite]

what would be quicker then q'ing healer or tank

[jovial torrent]

i think tank q's are better

[urban skiff]

dps and tank has shortest queue right now

I think

[rancid granite]

dps having shortest q what in the world

[jovial torrent]

cus i tried to level my MW using timewalking and healer q was actually pretty slow like 5 mins

[rancid granite]

wild

mebe ill swap and try em out

[jovial torrent]

i think its just ppl know now that healing leveling is braindead, spend half the time afk

[rancid granite]

gotta get in the mindset and find some good movies to put on for the grind

oh true lol

[fierce elm]

doneso

Now to never use this set because the base set is better lmao

[fierce elm]

Spam timewalking, queue tank

ez pz

if you queue DPS there might be a chance of getting a twink that is boosting

[rancid granite]

🙏

ty ty

[exotic forge]

I suggest you to go dps as soon as you hit 71

Timewalking is not kind above 70

[fierce elm]

just have your group carry you kek

[exotic forge]

Me and my bud could carry you but we're gaming somewhere else rn

[rancid granite]

im constantly on and off anyway so np

[urban skiff]

this was last night

[rancid granite]

ill be surprised if i stick with it to 80 tbh i just gotta keep looking at the t2 set

but monk in general does look fun the more i look at the skills

[frank knoll]

Just got 1800 on the BM hunter
Didn’t see a single ret warrior or feral in the way up
I saw a more than a few DHs and WW monks though
Like above the normal amount

Granted it only took like 6 shuffles but still

[frank knoll]

I’m torn between playing Shaman or Monk next season
I’m tired of playing warrior/ret/dk

[rancid granite]

yeah damn both of those seem different enough

though shaman can go ele

[frank knoll]

Enhance will apparently have some mechanic where sundering can reset a bunch looks fun

[urban skiff]

Man the new island is completely unplayable with pvp enabled on the wrong faction

everybody has the launch into air to escape button

[urban skiff]

half my games we've been two warriors. Most games also had a DH

lots of dks and paladins

[hasty pulsar]

Some guy saying on twitch new ring doing 16% of his damage. Anyone know about this/using ring

[urban skiff]

it was bugged earlier and the did a hotfix

[hasty pulsar]

Is that right

[urban skiff]

having a really fucking weird problem on my shaman

it won't let me cast peewave

[urban skiff]

found the solution, it cannot be cast on pvp dummies

Because that makes sense

[fierce elm]

yes

[north thicket]

I am really tempted to pick a pvp class who could humiliate frost mages in s2... won't leave warr tho

[urban skiff]

go enh

it's basically SMF thane so you're still a warrior

[north thicket]

unsure how good it is into mages nowadays, I have a shaman but only chill resto healer to troll m+

dh?

[frank knoll]

Enhance has cool transmogs too

[nimble jasper]

i mean mages worst matchup is likely feral

ele is likely better into mage than enh though

[urban skiff]

I completely blow mages up right now. S2 is complete tossup because they're messing with both storm and elementalist builds. We might see a third play style emerge.

But right now at this moment, i kill mages by accidentally alt tabbing

[north thicket]

wow but how do you deal with the roots? it's just 1 root breaker on a minute cd right

and asc 2min

[nimble jasper]

He plays ele pretty sure

[nimble jasper]

But you can remove roots with ghost wolf

[north thicket]

oh yes the paws

[frank knoll]

Is that ghost wolf heal/Dr thing they have still good

Or is it nerfed in PvP

[nimble jasper]

Probably too long to build up

not practical in pvp i imagine to wait 4 seconds in wolf

[frank knoll]

Probably nice when you’re being trained the whole time

Like vs DH/WW

[north thicket]

enhance might turn out to be a great idea actually, if they win the 11.1 talent lottery

[fierce elm]

They arent right now

[north thicket]

how are dh/ww looking into mages?

[fierce elm]

thats for sure

[nimble jasper]

There is no heal

I mean if you want to hardcounter mages that much

[frank knoll]

I’ve never played shaman in Arena aside from memeing in 2s
Just battlegrounds doing PvE damage from 40 yards

[nimble jasper]

play feral

[frank knoll]

I already play Hunter no need lol

[nimble jasper]

oh yeah bm and feral are like

bane of mage existence

[frank knoll]

MM too
Killed a 8 mil hp mage in like 2 secs today lol

[nimble jasper]

Yeah

[frank knoll]

One rapid fire, a black arrow and insta aimed shot

[nimble jasper]

ww isnt that good into half intelligent mages

unless they made sef ai less stupid

flashback to when mage just novas your pop and basically you do zero damage

since both images stuck in root

[frank knoll]

Yeah in a shuffle today
The enemy WW is w keying my partner and his sef spirits are chasing me around lol

[nimble jasper]

Yeah i mean

good mages just held db ring for your pop

and laughed

[frank knoll]

Yeah DB ring frost bomb Ray of frost one shot

[nimble jasper]

old expacs were just funny

people never learned how to play around keefer onetaps

all of SL

[peak hawk]

is harmstring the most uselss spell in the game? Every time I press it I want to kms

[rancid granite]

its not useless if you want to put a slow on someone!

[boreal veldt]

it unironically needs a damage buff

[copper fox]

It’s absolutely the worst slow in the game

[rancid granite]

i dont mind the slow it seems more of the fact everyone else has hella movement speed in comparison

[copper fox]

Right but that’s the problem

It’s the most obnoxious slow to apply

And it’s nearly useless

[slow solstice]

so i just do my damage instead

[copper fox]

I just play with classes who perma slow 🧠

[copper fox]

lol ofc. We are just talking about how it sucks

[wary delta]

why do I feel like classes just dont get slowed

evokjers

paladins

deathknights

hunters

rogues

demon hunters

[boreal veldt]

i mean hamstring is the only reason i can think of why the crackling thunder talent only gives t-clap a 40% slow instead of 50%

cause then we'd never need to use it as arms, prot, or thane

[fickle forge]

Make PH baseline and make Ham refresh with MS

[boreal veldt]

idk what im cookin here, ham just needs somethin

[fickle forge]

Boom, fixed

[boreal veldt]

ayy

yeah just have ms/rampage/sslam refresh hamstring

[exotic forge]

I would rather have Hamstring off gcd than it getting a damage buff

[exotic forge]

Or this, have an ability or auto attacks refresh it

[elfin surge]

Make hamstring off gcd and second use is a root

boom ez

[exotic forge]

Improved Hamstring

[elfin surge]

[sharp meteor]

when ur dmg is global locked

having no downtime to press hamstring

feels so bad

esp when theres like 500 things that remove it

lemme just chase this hunter who is also playing with a paladin

[boreal veldt]

it doesn't help you cant apply it while storm's 60% snare is up

gotta wait till it expires

[exotic forge]

You can still apply piercing howl thru freedom tho. It doesn't affect them til freedom expires however

[nimble jasper]

Can’t be slowed lower than 70%, and chains of ice is a 70% slow on you

[exotic forge]

Can't be slowed below 100% with death's advance (for 10 sec, 2 charges, on a 45 sec cd)

[urban skiff]

1800 done and i beat afro to it

[verbal tangle]

1800 in what?

[urban skiff]

shuffle

turned out to be immensely easier than bgb

[sharp meteor]

shuffle easier/quicker if u can kill peoples

blitz considerably easier to climb in but less direct influence

[urban skiff]

see this is the part i don't get

[sharp meteor]

u exist and go up

just press q

[urban skiff]

I press q and go down

[sharp meteor]

warr in blitz is like

i feel u go to the same spot and do the same thing every time

maybe it changes at rly high mmr

[urban skiff]

I definitely don't feel like I can help in bgb on my dps warrior same way I can on tank or my shaman

[exotic forge]

Someone in blitz told me to follow the mw monk in wsg at all times

It was 2,1k mmr

we were winning

[sharp meteor]

id say theres nuance but thats all ive done so far