pvp

[fierce elm]

The store we have here is amazing tbh

Never trying to upsell, always honest if they dont know anything etc

I get help if I ask for it and not them forcing their way to me

its just way more fun doing it yourself

[urban skiff]

@sharp meteor rate my vers

[sharp meteor]

what's context

[fierce elm]

the only thing I wouildnt fuck with is a Floyd Rose

those can suck my nut

[urban skiff]

context is i messed up my main warrior to try being ridiculous and lost significant playtime/steam before I could farm up new set of conq so now I'm trying to make the haste work as prot. I want to bring vers up a lot higher

[sharp meteor]

looks like my prot stats for the last 4 seasons

i just always went haste vers for arena/shuff

idk what's best for blitz for like durability

[urban skiff]

Kind of going full haste because I was trying to see how high i could get my attack speed with SMF

protip: Really stupid fast

But I did it just to transmog 2hs onto 1hs

Swinging artifact weapons with 1h speed looked really stupid but felt really bad

[fierce elm]

How many energy drinks and caffeine can I have in a day before it turns into a issue in say a year

[fickle forge]

Probably 5

[fierce elm]

aight sick I am below that

[fickle forge]

I've tanked 5 coffees for a while now

[fierce elm]

I am up to 2 Monsters + like 4 coffees

and an espresso shot

No PWO yet though

[sharp meteor]

I feel like if I'm exercising and eating well then the amount of caffeine doesn't really matter unless it's nearing bed time

[urban skiff]

depends, caffeine can turn really bad for you really fast if you have underlying heart issues

[fierce elm]

but then it will be 1 monster+300-400g pwo+4 coffees lmao

[sharp meteor]

if I'm not moving a lot then second energy drink makes me feel like trash.

[urban skiff]

and iirc it doesn't care about your body weight for distribution etc

[fickle forge]

Yeah this has pretty much been my experience as well

It works as long as you're active

[fierce elm]

Im just slamming Vit D and caffeine to survive winter+cutting

[sharp meteor]

Like if im just playin the second monster or w/e just insta kills my mood

[fierce elm]

its rough already lmao

[sharp meteor]

first one super tasty second one immediately feel awful

assuming not exercisin

so gotta me schmovin

and/or eating real food

[fierce elm]

I so far, drink one pre-work, drink coffee at breakfast and eat nothing, drink three more during work then slam a monster pre-workout

[sharp meteor]

[fierce elm]

That and nicotine lmao

Headed to an early grave SPEEDRUN

Also told myself I was gonna ease into working out and did 5rm yday on Rows, today was 3rm maximum on Larsen

Its rough out here

[fickle forge]

People that don't eat breakfast are mutants I swear

[fierce elm]

I did before, figured I would save the 300-500 calories

in case of emergency

[fickle forge]

Emergency of what

Lmao

[fierce elm]

Now just eat lunch at 11-12

Snack time

who knows

maybe feel shit pre-gym and need to get some food into me etc etc

Late night eating because I cant sleep

[fickle forge]

I guess that is fair

[fierce elm]

I find the caffeine+nicotine combo curbs that hunger until lunchtime if I wake up at 6

[rancid granite]

sugarfree gum

[urban skiff]

I mean, go get your ADHD medicine back

[fierce elm]

refusal

negative

[urban skiff]

It curbs hunger + it's literally a PED

[fickle forge]

The snoos man

[fierce elm]

I will win on pure spite for them wanting people with ADHD to come in everyh 6 months for blood pressure checks

[urban skiff]

My psychiatrist just told me yesterday athletes would kill to have my combo of test + amphetamines to compete better

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

most already do that lmao

[urban skiff]

Huh? I don't have to do any tests

[fierce elm]

we have to here

its aids

[urban skiff]

I barely have to do any to get my testosterone

[fickle forge]

Doing this shit buddy, so get that warr ready @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

Then you have to call all the fucking time to get more prescriptions

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah SMF THANE ROLLING HARD

[fierce elm]

You get like a 3 month supply at most

and I kept forgetting to call them

[urban skiff]

i literally have an APP

[fickle forge]

We're slamming SMF thane now

[fierce elm]

Yeah we dont do that

you have to call

fuck that shit

[fierce elm]

my warr is literally missing two pieces

wtf mans

[fickle forge]

I'm sending the Hpala conq over to this

[fierce elm]

all this work to hit 1800 kek

[fickle forge]

This is the most braindead rotation yet lmao

Storm Strike goes

[urban skiff]

I can mail my doctor

I can leave a voicemail on their answering machine designed for messages that don't require responses

[fierce elm]

It might have changed from the 4.5 years I have been off though

[urban skiff]

stormbringer or totem nerd?

Both works, I love enh

[fickle forge]

Nah I can't be fucked with totem hippies

I wanna press Ascend and carve mountains

[urban skiff]

the totem fucking trucks and then they drop dead from it pulsing for 1.6m hits aoe

stormbringer is ok but the totem is just so much fun.

[fickle forge]

It's so skewered what is actually good though when 1 dude holds like 10 spots on Murlok

[urban skiff]

The high end plays totem + elemental build because it's strong as fuck

the bottom plays stormbringer + storm because it's easy

the real chads make totem + storm build work because it's so stupid nobody expects it

also idk, i'm really stupid

[fickle forge]

16

I count 16 spots

Held by the same guy

[fierce elm]

he is a chad

[urban skiff]

if anyone is wondering where all the rating is going, he's soaked up a very large portion of it

my SMF THANE build

damage breakdown in the two matches I saved

and all i do is stormstrike

[fallen estuary]

Hes that high cause he got spores bro

That hat

[urban skiff]

ready to get absolutely steamrolled by a 1350 team

sorted by rating, lol

[spice hornet]

Lmfao

[urban skiff]

funny how we don't have a weakaura that shows remaining ticks on bladestorm as a cast bar

[spice hornet]

what for tho? ever since they tied a lot of our dam to bladestorm and added the slayer talent that lets us kick/bolt duriung it i basically never cancel it

[urban skiff]

I play colossus

But I'd still like to know when my unhinged procs have been used and be able to know how many bladestorm hits I'm missing out on if I have to panic cancel bladestorm to leap behind a pillar

Don't want to miss the narrow window of dying out of LoS

just how big range is the third demolish hit?

huh, at least this long. Third hit hits the mob farthest away

[full quiver]

Lol

[urban skiff]

Third hit doesn't need your target in range at all, it's a full on aoe.

And we can jump while we initiate the cast

[rancid granite]

you can heroic leap mid channel too

[hasty pulsar]

doesnt that cancel the demolish though

[urban skiff]

Nop

[hasty pulsar]

wait really

omg youre right I never realized that lol thats great to learn

[wheat jay]

As long as you stay in range of your target

[urban skiff]

But also, if you"re mid air on 3rd hit it's out of range.

It's essentially a ground effect

[hasty pulsar]

with global cooldown is it even smart to leap during demolish then

[urban skiff]

Regular aoe is ball shaped. I suspect demolish isn't ball

[hasty pulsar]

feel like i cant even leap until its about to do 3rd swing

[wheat jay]

Precisely

Its more about being able to avoid a dangerous mechanic or ground effect in pve

[hasty pulsar]

ah right

[wheat jay]

No, its not a reliable tool to chase someone to hit 3rd hit of demolish

[hasty pulsar]

yeah that is what I was thinking people may be doing but yeah does not seem reliable to me

[wheat jay]

You can MAYBE do that

But you need perfect timing and placement

[hasty pulsar]

it is definitely interesting

[wheat jay]

In pve, where some mobs and bosses have GIGANTIC hit boxes, sure

In pvp where everyone can dash or blink away, not so much

Youre never going to get it to work into dh

Mage

[chilly pivot]

hardstuck 2100 rating in 3s atm, just facing 5xglad+ players and some rank1 guys. do u think im able to hit gladiator in the end of the season? like how much easyer will it bee with some inflation in retail? never played retail before so dont know how its work

[wheat jay]

Ye 2100+ is what normally was glad range

Due to deflation and lack of activity

It will spike in last weeks of the season tho

Can whether you can get glad or not is all up to you, if you can manage 2100, you can also manage glad

Just spam games

[chilly pivot]

yeah okey 🙂 , feels like we are so bad when we are hardstuck 2100 xd

if we are hardstuck 2100 now, it feels like it can be hard to reach gladiator in the end?

[fickle forge]

You won't get 2400 off of inflation alone, you gotta improve

Or swap comp if you aren't playing an optimal one

[chilly pivot]

im playing thundercleave

[fickle forge]

Yeah then you just gotta improve

[sharp meteor]

ladder gonna slide up

probably quite a bit

but not gonna go 2100>2400 + 50 wins off weekly gains

also got 2200 a month ago when it was 990th or so

now it's Rank
(3.05%) 1786

almost twice the peoples up there

[chilly pivot]

yeah 😛 just need to improve then 😄

i think we play good overall, just dont know really how to swap in the comp and when to swap etc

[full quiver]

Ele fury prez is def glad viable

[wheat jay]

Never swap always tunnel

[full quiver]

You don't swap you target one dude

And ongo bongo

[chilly pivot]

need to swap when they pop deffensive cooldowns? :S

or i will be hardstuck 2100 whole season? xd

[hasty pulsar]

so like i got into a lobby with 4 melee including me.. and it just did not go well.. was a fury/ww/ass rogue and then me arms warr

did not go well at all.. like wat the hell even was that

[wheat jay]

Winnable lobby

[sharp meteor]

Sounds like a good lobby for Arms

[wheat jay]

100% winnable

[sharp meteor]

Awful for Fury

[hasty pulsar]

i just fucking sucked so badly..

that is why I am mentioning i like just did not go well and i feel awful

[sharp meteor]

Between cleavies disarm and parry I feel like you sickos into that lineup

[wheat jay]

Happens

[hasty pulsar]

yeah i thought so too but just did not go well

i need to record myself..

to be fair i think my teammates also trolled like at least 2 rounds

ww died in the open to the rogue immediately

was caught in a smoke but didnt press anything

ok im done venting apologies

[sterile moth]

It happens, keep fighting the good fight. Stay positive

[urban skiff]

My good lobbies always go bad and my bad lobbies always go incredibly good.

I expect it's beccause my good matchups are harder to play so they actually play, where the bad matchups are more noob friendly so they make more mistakes that my dumb ass don't notice

[hasty pulsar]

yeah its kinda weird, like earlier i went 5-1 against annoying ranged classes

[fallen estuary]

rescue you ontop of executable target

ez win

[urban skiff]

rescue during demolish to make sure it lands

[fallen estuary]

target still walks away from you lol

[urban skiff]

nobody runs from draggo

Am I losing my mind or is KT human sounds weird?

Like I get no cue that tells me attacks land?

[verbal tangle]

I mean, it's a lardass

[urban skiff]

Doesn't explain why they strike so daintily you cannot hear it

[verbal tangle]

Flab isn't muscle, duh

[fickle forge]

Buhsac with these profile pics man

[chilly pivot]

Any glad exp warrior here who can help me with some tips?

[hot solstice]

game is fine meanwhile his normal hit is 1.1 mil nice crit mod

[true tiger]

guys whats best fury 3v3 comp

[hot solstice]

thunder

[fickle forge]

Hi

[true tiger]

ele fury healer?

[hot solstice]

preferably hpala

evoker might do aswell

[sharp meteor]

Heys. :3

[full quiver]

I got a tip for u @fickle forge

Might be a bit hard but I think u can handle it

[fickle forge]

What

Mf tags me with this shit and then goes afk

[green wharf]

their animations and sound effects have being bugged since TWW launched

even before maybe

it was reported as bug ages ago in the official foruns

[urban skiff]

Kind of annoying

But guess i can make an addon for sound replacement but not worry about having to remove old sound. Not all bad

[green wharf]

and of course, blizz do fuck all about it

[urban skiff]

Is it all sounds or just arms?

[green wharf]

i dunno, i think its all specs for warrior

dunno other classes

i know arms is 100% bugged

[urban skiff]

I kind of want the sound of guts swinging the dragon Slayer in berserk. Like the hollow metal clash sound.

Or berserker from the fate series.

[sharp meteor]

Oh ye dk too

male kult just unfinished unpolished nobody plays dems

which i think is kind of a shame because they are sort of cool

[hot solstice]

sweeping strikes bugged animation triggers me more

[urban skiff]

Bugged how?

[hot solstice]

while sweeps on ur mortal and execute animation is unchanged

[urban skiff]

Almost an advantage vs anyone who doesn't track sweeping strikes on nameplates, no?

[hot solstice]

looooool

why would u need advantage vs those ppl?

besides animation from using sweeps is still there

u r just not doing wide sweep mortals and executes

but u still rise ur weapon when u press sweeps

[urban skiff]

I'm sure the number of players tracking sweeping strikes is incredibly low.

[fierce elm]

Imagine tracking anything

[hot solstice]

Imagine facing arms nowadays

[hot solstice]

10 stack maelstrom on enha is such a scam... feels all the same like when 5 stacks were max

[rancid granite]

[slow solstice]

a bit of tilt queuing huh

[fierce elm]

step up nerd

[rancid granite]

no tilt still got pwned

[lavish quest]

Imagine queuing

[rancid granite]

but its fun so why not

[fickle forge]

Coinflip bracket 😎👍

@bright kraken Look at this dood pulling a you

[rancid granite]

no coinflip just me doing bad i dont believe in that luck coin flip voodoo

i will rise again

[green wharf]

never lost to arms and prot in shuffle

i consider a win

[bright kraken]

nah if it was me I'd be at 1.6k

[sterile moth]

I managed to break into the 1600s(!!!!) in blitz. The queues are fast and it’s pretty fun. MMR jumps wildly though. It’s a little frustrating to get 20 points at 1600 with 2050 MMR.

[fickle forge]

The lower you dip, the higher you bounce back

[bright kraken]

so that's why i've been hovering between 2k and 1.8k all season

[fierce elm]

lmao

[fickle forge]

You need wider swings

Be like my ex

You gotta dip to peak

[rancid granite]

[primal remnant]

rofl

[urban skiff]

huh? just send stormstrike bro, maelstrom is a scam

[hot solstice]

I spend it so sstrike hits 25% harder

[urban skiff]

nyeh

STORM STRIKE MORE

[hot solstice]

2100 in 65 rounds

Believe it works

[urban skiff]

stormbringer storm build or what are you playing?

I'm doing storm + totemic because I'm just that annoying

[hot solstice]

Yes

[urban skiff]

for shuffle or bgb?

[hot solstice]

Shuffle

[urban skiff]

I find storm + totemic is just ridiculous fun even though they nerfed it in the last patch

before that though it was just straight up broken

rate my new transmog

[fierce elm]

not enough uncle

[full quiver]

Looks like afro

[fierce elm]

powerbelly

[urban skiff]

like this?

quick test on veteran vitality and I think it's confusing people that it doesn't show up in the healing done

Because it's actually two ticks of a full-powered Second Wind

LMAO

it literally doesn't work if you don't have second wind talented

[full quiver]

That makes sense

[fickle forge]

Not playing improved IP

Not talenting Second Wind

[wheat jay]

Mathematically bad, need more vers

[urban skiff]

I did it to test

my vers is garbo

I want to cap it to see how it feels

On my kthuman

run around with 31% vers + also take 1% less damage from frost mage, boomie, ele shaman is neat

and kthuman seems to be healing for roughly half of second wind passive so I'm trying to see how much it stacks up for total survivability

[exotic forge]

In today's meta, 2nd wind hardly makes a difference

[wheat jay]

mmmm

it does make a difference

100%

[exotic forge]

Comparing it to how it was 10 years ago, I doubt it does

With Col, sure, if you spec into it then I can see the argument by itself I highly doubt it

[fickle forge]

You want improved IP as Colo anyway

[exotic forge]

^^

[green wharf]

2/10

[green wharf]

what addon is that

[urban skiff]

Nah bro

Imp ip is like 80k more per cast

[fickle forge]

That'd more than likely still outweight the other thing

[urban skiff]

What's IP cd?

I want to say 8 seconds

[wheat jay]

old one was kinda OP tho lol

[green wharf]

mop second wind was soo good

it was the best against noobs

they always missed the burst windows

[full quiver]

Now it's just played by noobs

Smh

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Let's pretend it's 8 seconds. Let's say IP is nice round 500k per cast baseline. Then you get +100k per cast from imp IP.

That's 7 casts per minute or 15 per 2 minutes. So 750k average if you cast IP on cooldown.

Veteran vitality is roughly 1m and works while cc'd.

They're both affected by damp.

Idk how to justify imp IP.

[exotic forge]

That's my point

[wheat jay]

idea is to not have op shit in the game

xD

[fickle forge]

Idk if IP is affectes by damp, it uses to not be

But SW is affected by MS so

And you can gain 0 value out of it for the longest time if you don't drop

[green wharf]

would be op in today game though

[wheat jay]

yep

tho i think legion passive healing would be better

chance to heal on rage spent

[green wharf]

doubt, today second wind is like 1% and dont do shit, 3% might be just ok

there is a lot of burst and spiked dmages that should be able to counter

[wheat jay]

3%, dstance 15%, ip for smaller hp bonus

and suddenly you're tanky enough to never die to consistent dmg

[green wharf]

doubt

but we can set with 2%

[urban skiff]

2% is too much. If you want bigger it has to cost more than 1 point in early tree

Play kthuman to get a taste. Their racial is roughly half of second wind from my 2 minute test earlier today

[kind sentinel]

So criminal we got nerfed second wind but not this

[urban skiff]

i mean, if you want I can tell you the exact conditions where imp IP overtakes imp second wind

but you're not gonna like it

It's kind of really easy because both IP and second wind are based on max hp

[rancid granite]

so which is better

besides just going slayer

[fickle forge]

IP is based on AP I am pretty sure

[fickle forge]

Whatever the T50 pick is better

[urban skiff]

It's actually not.

but a lot of weird multipliers, one of which is an AP mod(?)

[fickle forge]

It used to be AP at least

[urban skiff]

yep, i know

[fickle forge]

I'm pretty sure the HP is the cap

[urban skiff]

and it might still be AP but for prot only

I think there's a really weird thing going on with IP and how they implemented it behaving differently for two specs of the same class

also because it's max hp * 30/100

not max hp * 0.3

I'm also additionally weirded out because I'm 99% sure it had a pvp nerf to the value but is that one of the things they overturned when they cleaned slate at the start of TWW?

[fickle forge]

It's easy to test though

[urban skiff]

looks like it's roughly 6% - 6.5% per cast

i keep getting 6.3% but that is another weird thing where, it's just a weird number?

but for me the Imp SW procs around 900k heal. To get that same bonus from imp IP I'd need 9.5 casts of IP to match it

with 100% MS uptime on me, that's only 7.5 imp IPs to match one veteran vitality proc

[urban skiff]

You're right. It's 4.375*AP. It's making sense now

[fickle forge]

Yeah it's worded weirdly

I believe it caps out at 30% if you chain them

[urban skiff]

arms can't chain them

11 sec cooldown, 12 sec duration

no wait, I was wrong

but this is borderline impossible

have to mash the button to catch the overlap while timer is at 0 seconds

[green wharf]

its not, our survival is shit compared to others

[fickle forge]

RNG heals are garbage bro

Remember shadowlands DH?

[urban skiff]

did you try killing faster?

[fickle forge]

Bro would proc a demon at the right time and be invincible

[wheat jay]

true

[urban skiff]

sometimes r/worldofpvp has some excellent takes

Some rdruid hit 1800 solo shuffle playing on steam deck while putting kids to sleep

[sterile moth]

@urban skiff read that thread too. He used to play wow using a touch pad

[urban skiff]

huh

that's hillarious

I mean I used to do the same

but I was also clicking at the time and it wasn't the touch pad, it was the little nipple in the centre keyboard on my laptop

[sterile moth]

Laptop trackpad rather….wtf

[green wharf]

i know a guy who play wow with only one hand

[spice hornet]

My cousin started playing wow again in BFA on a shitty laptop and using a trackpad

He got to like 1800 in 2s
And was doing like 15s in keys

[urban skiff]

been trying to make controller work so my kid can play with me

but she picked up on mouse/keyboard fast enough that it stopped mattering

[spice hornet]

That’s probably better anyway. Learns to type at the same time

[keen epoch]

Used to play (I’m sure 90% of people say this too) and sub rogue up to cata then left. Ranking 1960 or so.
Left to raise my kids and be a better person.
Just came back since the little Coinslots are out of the house now and am gearing a fury warrior.
I have been doing a lot of searching and I am finding some overall general guides for pvp but not finding a really in depth guide that I understand yet.
I know that I know nothing, is there a pre skill capped style guide for someone who has no idea what is going on anymore?

[sterile moth]

@keen epoch do you have questions on how to gear efficiently or mostly looking for how to play?

[keen epoch]

Mostly how to play. I did random BGs yesterday mostly just facerolling and got all of my honor gear besides the trinket set. I don't understand crafting and the pages I have seen are a bit more over my head than I like.
Mostly looking for breakdowns of the skills, like what utility I have, what actually interrupts casts etc. I have read some guides and watched videos but the number of questions I have outweighs the answers I am finding.

A super dumbed down guide would be perfect lol

[urban skiff]

this is the interrupt

Everything that applies a cc of sorts will also interrupt casting, but that one is a dedicated interrupt that also prevents casting

Your bareboned utility is Rallying Cry, Intervene, any CC you have.

Depending on your spec you can get additional utility in the form of pvp talents: sharpen blade for arms. All specs: disarm, duel, war banner, safeguard

You cannot get all of it so you have to choose

what a fun lobby i'm getting thrown into

[keen epoch]

I will go through my abilities and have to read through it all again. I have alot of work to do with rotation and understanding when to use what as far as my cc and interrupts, I just don't want to get the rotation down and feel like it is good enough and then have to break bad habits to get myself out of the zug zug playstyle and into the actual teammate style

[urban skiff]

@keen epoch
I'm currently watching this video to see if there's anything useful. Idk what your level of understanding of pvp is, but it covers the full basics starting from what addons you need as a bare minimum, why and how to avoid clicking buttons, etc.
https://youtu.be/mAZTbVjmQQo

[keen epoch]

much appreciated. Watching it now. Thanks!

[rancid granite]

DON'T LOOK AT IT

[keen epoch]

LOL

[urban skiff]

we had 2 bases

now we don't

idk what I've done

[rancid granite]

looked at numbers and tabbing to discord mid game

[urban skiff]

just want to point out

someone in here lost rating at less than 1400

[sharp meteor]

You can lose rating at 800.

Just gotta have mmr low enough.

[urban skiff]

I don't agree

[sharp meteor]

Everybody starts at 1500 + inflation so has to bleed out for a long time.

[sharp meteor]

..

No, you just don't understand mmr lmao.

[urban skiff]

My shaman started out going 0-15 and my MMR never got low enough that i lost rating around that level

you have to cross a threshold first before your rating can drop

[sharp meteor]

Gotta bleed out for a long time and most people quit before then

game literally starts you at 1800 now

[urban skiff]

yes

[sharp meteor]

and it'll be like 2k by the end of the season

can get elite sets with 40% winrates

game literally force feeds people rating

[urban skiff]

I got rank 34 world as shaman with 29% win rate

AFTER going 0-15

[slow solstice]

its haste based cd

[urban skiff]

Imho blitz don't get good until hitting the point where (generally) everyone gains like 20 rating

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-fatima-zatima-cut-it-out-bet-networks-gif-15011333061627781879

psyching yourself out for no reason

[urban skiff]

tbh I'm not

this is my alt

I'm just here to play dumb

[fickle forge]

Blitz be ass 🙏

[tribal holly]

@fierce elm where christmas icon

[urban skiff]

looks like i get to play 5 games today

[fierce elm]

this discord suck

[tribal holly]

Cant change it what do you want me to do about it

[fierce elm]

Tell Vel

or archim lmao

[fickle forge]

Does this cord still have an owner?

[urban skiff]

isn't this wowhead's discord?

[fickle forge]

I thought it was an anarchy honestly

[urban skiff]

there, made you one

[fierce elm]

Isnt Archim managing this at this point

I am too scared to tag the man for christmas icons

[rancid granite]

@fierce shell this guy?

[fickle forge]

@slim saffron Can we have Christmas icon already?

[fierce elm]

lmao

Not that guy no @rancid granite

[urban skiff]

what's wrong with this one?

I put so much effort into it?

[fierce elm]

We are LAST in line for it

Missing the Skyhold icon smh

[urban skiff]

I know. That's why I put it over Late chatting at you

[rancid granite]

i hope archim is having a nice holiday nonetheless

[fickle forge]

I honestly don't know man

[fierce elm]

same

He should see your tag hopefully unless he turned that off

[fickle forge]

For all I know, this place has no owner or management, just Archim making updates and stuff

Mud became SF and then quit the game

[fierce elm]

true

I just want christmas spirits kman

like look at this

mad cozy vibes

[urban skiff]

we got a skyhold icon?

I only have paint to work with right now

[fierce elm]

I am certain one of the admins has the christmas icon already

[fickle forge]

Yeah we have one

We just aren't using it

Lmao

[tribal holly]

[fierce elm]

oh my lord lmao

Write in super secret mod channel

carry on our word

[fickle forge]

Can we get some INFORMATION man

Spam #memehold till they put on Christmas icon

[tribal holly]

Its a dead channel

[fierce elm]

oh no

[fickle forge]

It's that bad?

[tribal holly]

People are afk

[fickle forge]

We're finished

It's joever

It was kinda sus when Late became active here

Vals are deadge

[fierce elm]

lmao

Warrior died for this

[tribal holly]

Why is that sus

[fickle forge]

Ya'll literally never engage with any of us outside #memehold

[fierce elm]

Valkyr in #pvp is sus vibers

[tribal holly]

Wdym

[fickle forge]

Whenever Valks come here it's usually because we've shamed a streamer or an Instagram girl a bit too harsh and we're being watched

[tribal holly]

Im just here for the memes

[fickle forge]

Unarchieve old #pvp and we can scroll all the memes there

[fierce elm]

lmao do not do that

[fickle forge]

Eksdee

[fierce elm]

that shit cursed

[fickle forge]

God I love instant shuffle Qs as healer

Press Q, pop right in

[fierce elm]

wtf where 3s

[fickle forge]

No where

[tribal holly]

Not more cursed than old memeholds probably

[fierce elm]

Oh no its more cursed

its crusty cursedf

The great purge of #pvp

[fickle forge]

Old #pvp was lit and based though?

[fierce elm]

Now its the purge of christmas icon

[tribal holly]

Trust me, its not

[fierce elm]

Yeah did they have CHRISTMAS ICONS

Boutta start harassing #fury

[fickle forge]

The memehold we were a part of was pretty cursed ngl

[fierce elm]

it was cursed

[tribal holly]

Theres a blackbook worth of tea in the old archives

[fierce elm]

: )

[tribal holly]

Some might even say enough to bring cancel some big names 8)

[fierce elm]

: )

Yeah but where Christmas

[tribal holly]

Its not Christmas yet innit

[fierce elm]

christmas in spirit

[fickle forge]

DM it

[tribal holly]

i dont work for free

[fierce elm]

lmao scum

[tribal holly]

Mans gotta do what mans gotta do

Especially in this economy

[fierce elm]

tbf who has a clean history on the internet

I sure as fuck dont

[tribal holly]

Not a single rwf raider thats for sure

[fierce elm]

lmao

[tribal holly]

500€ and ill leak my entire collection 8)

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Idc

I wanna suck all that shit up

[tribal holly]

Need to pay rent wcyd

[wheat jay]

Real, release it and we can cancel Afro for bodyshaming

[tribal holly]

Thinking afro is big name

[fickle forge]

The only big name here is Archimtiros

[rancid granite]

and vesa

[fickle forge]

Vesa is a nobody

[wheat jay]

He's a good start

Maybe his name is not the biggest

But the belly definitely is

[tribal holly]

Oh i didnt mean skyhold bignames 👀

[fickle forge]

We ain't got any big names here either

[tribal holly]

Theres plenty of big name wow people js

[wheat jay]

I wish I saved all the screenshots of all the convos I had ehhh

[fickle forge]

Can you really be a big name dawg if you play WoW though

[tribal holly]

Yes and no i guess, but if your livelihood is tied to it i guess that counts

[fickle forge]

Think I'll stay a nobody then

That can't be nice

[tribal holly]

It depends entirely if the internet mob is willing to lynch you or not

I think that has died down alot now so nothing would really come off it

[sharp meteor]

Does that even really happen

Hatewatchers still watchers

[tribal holly]

Some people got banned and or lost contracts so kinda

[fickle forge]

Eh I mean I've seen what's required to be lynched here

It's not really applicable for 99.99% of us

[tribal holly]

Yep

[near inlet]

you can't get pvp tier if catalist charges are used... what the hell??

[sharp meteor]

How'd you use all the charges LMAO

[near inlet]

raid and trasmog... it's only 8!?!?

[sharp meteor]

Well, you want leggies and helm as Fury

so that's only two

[patent forum]

And you get a free piece at 1600

[near inlet]

I got 2p, what if i want full tier... makes it impossible without great vault... makes it not fair for ppl who wants to do more stuff (which is what blizz should want...)

[sharp meteor]

Why would u want full tier for pvp

arms is bad and the other specs dont play it

idk how u somehow wasted all ur charges

[patent forum]

He just told you fury uses 2 pc

[sharp meteor]

and free piece

lmao

[patent forum]

You deserve this punishment honestly

[sharp meteor]

also mythic track works for pvp its the same ilev

so not only did you use 8 charges but presumably none were on mythic track

[near inlet]

I didn't wasted my charges, I used them 🙂

[sharp meteor]

Poorly.

[patent forum]

How do you use 8

[sharp meteor]

Eight on rando low quality pieces is just wild.

[patent forum]

When pve uses 4 pc

[sharp meteor]

Did you throw stuff in there just because it lit up

[near inlet]

you can get full raid trasmog with catalist and upgrades...

[sharp meteor]

[patent forum]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

I just can't, man

Illidan pfp checks out.

[patent forum]

You deserve this

Just make another warrior

Takes like a day

[near inlet]

bro... are you saying running 4 ivl raids is smarter than using catalist?

[patent forum]

Can’t even read what you’re typing

[near inlet]

you can just agree with me that 8 charges aren't enough

[patent forum]

It’s enough if you have a brain

[slow solstice]

or just wear pve gear in pvp

🙂

[near inlet]

my brain wants trasmog, pve and pvp gear. you can disagree on this

but can't argue about my brain ^^

[patent forum]

Then just make another warrior

And use that to pvp

[near inlet]

that's not smart at all xD

[patent forum]

Well it’s either that or don’t have pvp tier

So idk, seems pretty smart

If you’re pveing that much, your tier is probably already 639, no?

[near inlet]

I'm not or there would be no prob 🙂

[slow solstice]

noob!

[near inlet]

hahaha

anyway if you say no other class use 4p in pvp I can accept this catalist nonsense

[slow solstice]

doesnt matter

just wait to get catalyst charge level another or wear pve gear

[near inlet]

guess will go with just 2p...

[exotic forge]

Just play how you want, who cares

[sharp meteor]

I already told you that we only play 2pc

unless you're arms for some reason

[near inlet]

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird patch 11.0.7 has zero balancing notes besides racial revamp?

Not even tooltip updates to fix hotfixes

[green wharf]

they just didnt start doing that yet

[urban skiff]

patch is in a week

Means either there's no balancing left this season or they're going to hit us with hotfixes over christmas

I think iit's safe to say we won't see more changes

[green wharf]

to0 be fair, the game is 100% balanced, no changes are needed

[urban skiff]

True

I'm having fun, even when losing. That's the most important thing to me

[green wharf]

dont have fun playing with arms, so game is shit

all though im having a great time fucking mages over with prot

[urban skiff]

prot is the goat

[green wharf]

i usually stay afk in the map while working/studying, to get the pvp boxes

and the other day a amge tried to kill me by throwing me off the cliff

he though i was afk, so easy kill, and went down to kill me, worst mistake

[exotic forge]

11.1 will be our patch, surely

[rancid granite]

we are a rarity anymore

[urban skiff]

First patch is always fury and last patch is always arms.

Expansions are down to three seasons instead of four now. Mid Season is a gamble

[green wharf]

so the four patch where arms would be good is now cut

also, pretty scummy that blizz will make expansions shorter, just to sell more expansions in the long run

but i dont plan to play midnight anyway

[exotic forge]

Remember when had 7 seasons in a single expansion?

Good times

[fierce elm]

c o p e

I like it, less downtime between expansions

[green wharf]

pay more for less

great business

[fierce elm]

Its like 30-50 bucks for 2 years of entertainment

lmao

[green wharf]

it was more

[fierce elm]

Alongside the subscription that gives you honestly a ton of games

Pretty sure base TWW was 50 euros, heroic 70 epic 90

[green wharf]

doesnt change the fact you are paying more, more often, for less

[fierce elm]

but I could be weong

Yeah, if you want to be frugal wow isnt your game either lmao

But take 50 bucks across 2 years

and you are talking 25 bucks a year

Its not like they are scamming you with absurd prices, especially when the last half/year of an expansion was dead time

So in the end it evens out if it means we have constant content until the next expansion

Anyone remember 11 months of SoO

[green wharf]

just put more content, instead of cutting the expansion in half, with the same price

but i wasnt planning to play midnight anyway because it will be all elf shit

[fierce elm]

They havent done that yet lmao

And providing another 6 months of content for an expansion is hard

especially when they are working on this trilogy

Downtime was always the most wack part of an expansion

[fierce elm]

p o o r

[scarlet barn]

You know what . You dissapoint me

[green wharf]

they are going to do with the next two expansions

[fierce elm]

Shortening th expansion yes

[green wharf]

and pricing the same

[fierce elm]

Yes

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

almost like the player drop off during no content eras is bad

Slogging through the same patch feels bad

[green wharf]

and instead of putting content in the expansion, just make another one

cant say it doesnt work

[fierce elm]

lmao

[green wharf]

its scummy but does work

[fierce elm]

Ah yes, let me add the next expansions stuff into the same expansion, that surely is a sustainable business model

That surely wont lead to issues

considering they work on future expansions constantly

Its 50 bucks in the end which personally has a lot of value imo

[green wharf]

who said a thing about adding next expansion stuff in the same expansion

i say add curent content in the current expansion

[fierce elm]

You are allowed to have your own opinion and clearly we are not making much ground here, instead of turning this into another math situation I am okay with ending this here

[green wharf]

i mean, this isnt a matter of opinion, it is paying more for less content, cause the expansions will be shorter

they said themselves

[wheat jay]

Get outmathed nerd

[rancid granite]

just depends how much you play right

[fickle forge]

As long as I get an hour of fun per € I invest I am satisfied

[urban skiff]

I mean, fine by me. Expansions are more interesting than major patches. So for a little extra i get more expansions per year. Good trade

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[full quiver]

Yeah this is fried

Season 4 always dead af

Guy probably didn't even play it lol

[rancid granite]

blizzard gotta save players from themselves man

people finishing content in a week then 'this game sux im bored'

[full quiver]

Also since when does 4th season add new content lmao

[rancid granite]

they need the new stuff in arms reach

[urban skiff]

Did you quit wow again today yet or are you holding off the announcement?

[urban skiff]

Especially for pvp lol

[green wharf]

why would i quit today

[urban skiff]

You quit every day

[green wharf]

i do?

[full quiver]

Sygfryed big noob

[green wharf]

i mean yeah i have to sleep

today was already a great day, cause i receive a whisper from someone i killed in the way to sanctum of whatever raid in the maw

[fierce elm]

lmao

Why does it always spark something

[green wharf]

something about me being pathethic for killing someone else alt when he was doing transmog runs

turn off war mode then NERD

[fierce elm]

I do that too

fuck em

Brawls outside of dungeon entrances in TWW too

[full quiver]

God the other day i was herbing between queues and these 2 guys start chasing me

Killed em both with aacendance in like 1.5s lmao

Had to be in non pvp greens or something

[green wharf]

revenge killing is my favorite kind of killing

[full quiver]

I was likenwhy are world pvp people so dumb and bad at the game

[urban skiff]

Idk why shaman is so good in world pvp. It's so amazing how few fucks i give almost no matter who it is.

[green wharf]

most people in wpvp are paladin, DH, mage or warrior lol

[urban skiff]

Hunter trying to kite me? Yeah imma just stormstrike your pet and pelt you with lightning bolts

[urban skiff]

Naw. It's always rogues, hunters

[full quiver]

Lol

I'm ele but yeah

Feels fine vs anything but an actually good warrior with second wind

Second wind in world pvp is busted af

[urban skiff]

Chunking hunters with meatballs never get old. Bonus points when i thunder them off the edge and killing blow them mid air

[urban skiff]

That's not second wind. Second wind is 1%. You're seeing Veteran Vitality proc

[green wharf]

its being a while since i saw those

[urban skiff]

Which admittedly is a second wind proc at full power

[green wharf]

maybe they just dont come at me

[full quiver]

In world pvp second wind is 3%hps

[green wharf]

they cant do shit at a prot

[fierce elm]

stop lmao

[urban skiff]

Noooooo

[fierce elm]

cease

[full quiver]

Only limp wristed noobs play warrior now anyways

[fierce elm]

true

[full quiver]

Dead spec

[fierce elm]

its why this discord has no owner

nor a christmas icon

and every moderator is afk

[full quiver]

Yeah biglame

[green wharf]

TWO WEEKS

away from chirstmass

and no icon

dead server

every other server have it

[fierce elm]

@tribal holly where is it

huh

[tribal holly]

Noclue

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's @wheat jay rushing MoP Remixed in a week

[rancid granite]

lol

[fierce elm]

lmao true

[fickle forge]

"This game is so dead, nothing to do 😒"

After he does 2 months of content in a week

[lavish quest]

Just because it takes you two months doesn't mean we're that slow

[wheat jay]

it was content for two weeks

finished in 2

[tribal holly]

I think that says more about you having no life than it says about him tbh

[lavish quest]

Someone doesn't understand the concept of going faster I see

[tribal holly]

Its the same speed if someone plays 2hours a day for 7 days and someone plays 14 hours a day

[lavish quest]

You assume the same total hours

🙃

[tribal holly]

Oh so you have more ? That means youre slower

[lyric violet]

ngl im bored too

[lavish quest]

Can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink 🤦‍♂️

[lyric violet]

3 characters 639 pvp gear just sitting in q gets old

[tribal holly]

Truth hurts doesnt it

[lyric violet]

especially when the q's are like 20mins+

[tribal holly]

Just dont play then

[lavish quest]

Ignorance hurts more

[tribal holly]

Go do smth else

[lyric violet]

and thats why the games dead lol

people like you

[tribal holly]

Yeah yoi know why? I dont spend my limited free time sitting in front of a pc screen crying about how bored i am but instead i am actively trying to actually live my own life

[fierce elm]

lmao Late actually providing a point

Its okay to stop playing

[elfin surge]

Ligma

[fierce elm]

The queue times arent determined on you anyways unless you decide to roll a healer

[lavish quest]

Ye, wow kinda suck atm. I've been playing minster hunter, and trying poe 2 and rivals 😀

[tribal holly]

You can still shitpost in discord channels without playing

[fierce elm]

Im vibing on Outlaw

[elfin surge]

Im vibing on wow classic

[fierce elm]

Loser

[tribal holly]

Im waiting on ice so i can go play hockey

[elfin surge]

Mc and ony release today

mc hype

[fierce elm]

SKI SEASON STARTS THIS WEEKEND

and I am away

[tribal holly]

Now correct me if im wrong but didnt they release nearly 20 years ago and again like couple of years ago?

[elfin surge]

no first time releasing

never seen before content

[tribal holly]

[elfin surge]

they call it

fresh

[tribal holly]

I guess its ok to relive in that past instead of living in the present

[fierce elm]

Onyxia what de hell

[elfin surge]

wat da hell boi

https://tenor.com/view/baby-sun-teletubbies-gif-19804594

[tribal holly]

I mean id rather actually do something than spend 1/3rd of my live being just enslaved to internet and being under the illusion that theres constant rush to do things and that its not okay to just take your time

Im tired of just watching people waste their lives away looking downwards to phonescreens

Completely unaware of their surroundings

[sterile moth]

Thank god you’re here to save us!

[tribal holly]

No im just saying what ive seen, only one who can do that is yourself

[elfin surge]

my life is the internet i am nothing without the internet

[tribal holly]

Wdym

[sterile moth]

We all play for different reasons. It’s not nearly as sinister as you’re making it out to be

[tribal holly]

Whats your screentime on your phone? It should give you weekly raports on it, but naturally if you work somewhere doing physical labor then its less than people working in office jobs

[lavish quest]

The value of that question is?

[tribal holly]

You spend 8 hours a day working, 8 hours a day sleeping and thats a generous estimate, leaving you 8 hours of freetime again a generous estimate with all the travel between work and home out of the entire 24 hours that you have in a day

[lavish quest]

And?

[tribal holly]

Just think about it

Or is that too much to ask

[worthy fern]

@fierce elm you like to ski between two men

[fierce elm]

r u d e

[green wharf]

but what if, my life is wasted if i dont look downwards to the phonescreens

[lavish quest]

I'm still confused on how your viewing preferences should direct other people on how to live?

Giving advice is one thing, but what you're "tired of seeing" is something else.

Everyone has a value on different things. Why are you insistent on imposing yours on others?

[halcyon socket]

Guys can I get legend as fury only doing le zugzug or we need Brain ? Got legend X4 the same way as DH during DF 😶‍🌫️

[tribal holly]

Youre alive arent you? Why are you putting value onto something that isnt real?

Like why do you have to be always available to be reached on your phone?

Just put it down ?

Whats real is around you

[sterile moth]

Free will is an illusion. Life is game that plays us

[green wharf]

what is real

[green wharf]

isnt my phone around me?

[tribal holly]

Ignorance is bliss i guess

[fickle forge]

Life is whatever you want it to be, go have fun in whatever way and shape you have it

[lavish quest]

Technology and people's experiences with it are real.
And rather than addressing the question, you avoid and go back to imposing. Try not being so holyer than thou
If you actually want people to go outside, you're going about it in an incredibly stupid way. And I have a hard time believing you're that dense.

[fickle forge]

Now hear me out here on how to make people go outside

WoW Go

Mobile app that lets you battle monsters in the real world

Hire me Blizzard

[lavish quest]

[green wharf]

this is haunting, cause is a possibility

thankfully blizz is lazy enough to not do that

[rancid granite]

shouldn't you be too busy living your best life to notice then? perhaps you too are wasting your life by using a phone!

[fickle forge]

Battle monsters classic style in the open world, form parties with other WoW Go players to slay important and powerful quest mobs

Form raids at the local park to kill Ragnaros

I'm starting a new era of braindead people here

[tribal holly]

Its not hard to see it when im in the gym at jogging or at stores its like the rest of the world dont exist around them

[rancid granite]

it's just simple addiction :(

need to cultivate balance

[lavish quest]

Why do you care?

[rancid granite]

sometimes it's nice to escape into the phone and it's harmless unless taken to extremes

balance is joy for all

touch grass > go inside to play wow > break for grass > wow

real happiness

[green wharf]

i skip the touch grass part to read a book or a manwha

[fickle forge]

I ain't gon' lie, I spend the most time on my phone when I am at the gym

In between sets phone time

[rancid granite]

aa long as you aren't making everyone wait on you for your 8min rest periods

who tf works out or exercises without phones or earbuds on anyway

[lavish quest]

I'm tired of seeing waste their lives at the gym when they could be doing crack

[rancid granite]

lifting heavy objects when we all gonna die one day does sound like quite a waste of a life

skip crack just go for heroin to live life to it's fullest til the end

[fickle forge]

I ain't one of the broccolis man

[rancid granite]

lmao

[scarlet barn]

Instant noodles guys

[fickle forge]

I'm addicted to socializing though, so I just text IRL people while I wait

Or Discord

[green wharf]

people obessed with the gym are also, as much of a problem as the ones obssed with games lol

[fickle forge]

How so man

[lavish quest]

Because yall fuckers spawned all the chicks filming their softcore porn in the gym

[fierce elm]

they will wait for me

[rancid granite]

biggest guy at your gym i take it

[fierce elm]

Yes

Tbf there are a ton of new people in there now

its crazy

I dont judge the new people, unless they are douchebags

[fickle forge]

I don't pay attention to anyone in my gym

Except the ones that go as often as me and I constantly run into

[fierce elm]

Imagine not talking to people at the gym

[fickle forge]

I have negative awareness at the gym dude

I focus on my lifts and then everything around me is just a blur

[fierce elm]

Thats wack

I conversatw with people

unless I am in angery mode

I just like people-watching too, see new things etc

[fickle forge]

Do you go with somebody or alone?

[fierce elm]

Alone

but I live in a small town

And plenty of people know me from work

[fickle forge]

Ah yeah that's probably it

I live in the big city and the gyms are swarming

Especially now that we're approaching January

It'll be impossible to go gym

[fierce elm]

I hate big city gyms so makes sense

love community vibes

[fickle forge]

I get that completely

It's a lot more chill

As long as it ain't people that attend team sessions

[green wharf]

any obsession is by default a problem

[fickle forge]

Is it really though

Is it reeeeeeeeeally though

[scarlet barn]

reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally

[green wharf]

by default yeah, some rare occasions isnt

[fierce elm]

He has a point

But, some obsessions are better than others

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yin-and-yang-spinning-zen-gif-8691447

find balance in all np

[green wharf]

yeah,m being obsessed with wow is better than crack

[fierce elm]

exactly

[green wharf]

depending on the expansion

[torn sigil]

Drug tier list?

[rancid granite]

1: god
2: wow
3: herbal tea

S tier list

[fierce elm]

1. Adrenaline from almost dying at the gym doing a heavy bench single

[sly quiver]

You guys think ww is better overall than fury in SS after recent ww buffs?

[rancid granite]

its a different class

you can check skillcapped tier lists if that matters

[sly quiver]

well its on A+ list but tbh i just checked ss rankings and fury is way higher than ww in rankings especially in US the diff is massive

[rancid granite]

cant go wrong with playing what you find more fun :)

[fierce elm]

I would place WW higher than fury, yes

[rancid granite]

don't take advice from non-warriors on a warrior discord

that + the new t2 set rocks

[green wharf]

thats an awful set

[primal remnant]

that's why opinions are personal

[copper fox]

When you typed that did you get excited

[primal remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[copper fox]

I’ll take that as a yes

[primal remnant]

gladly we have block button on the inet

weirdo's

[elfin surge]

[copper fox]

Soft

This guy tried to vigilante for you and it was funny

So I made fun of it

And he got sad

Exactly that’s why it was funny lol

[green wharf]

maybe the dwarf was the problem and the set look good

[copper fox]

🤯

Looks great on male orc ngl

[fallen estuary]

1. Fent
2. Fent+meth
3. Fent+meth+crack
4. Weed

[rancid granite]

im stealing this line cause lol

and lol at the people who block someone that quickly while having to be vocal about it

[copper fox]

Man couldn’t handle the memeing

[urban skiff]

No amphetamines, what even is this

Been high as a kite at work 3 days now because new ADHD meds

Idk probably shouldn't be working under those conditions

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm bought some premade protein crap drink. It's bragging about having 11g of collagen. What the heck is that and why does it think i care?

[fierce elm]

Its a buzz word lmao

[stable siren]

isnt that that stuff ur skins use to repair wounds?

[fierce elm]

Like energy drinks that say they contain x amount of BCAAs

Collagen can have some effect on bones iirc

but its a waste of money for mostly everyone

[urban skiff]

it's what they put in old lady wrinkle creams

[stable siren]

So thats why my weiners so smooth when i goon

[fierce elm]

Its just a buzz word for people that buy something without knowing anything lmao

Such as BCAAs kek

Or ”B12”

”VITAMINS”

I sure buy Monster Energy for the Taurine

[green wharf]

it means you will have pretty skin as well

[green wharf]

im one of the people that energy drink dont have any effect

in fact, i get sleepy when i drink one

i remember i got one with watermelon flavour with my lunch, lowkey slept 9 hours straight

[urban skiff]

you have ADHD, go see a doctor

[urban skiff]

B12 is essential but you just eat your vitamins unless you have a MTHFR mutation that prevents your body from processing complex B vitamins

[fierce elm]

Naa grab your b12 from your daily energy drink lmao

[stable siren]

me 2! can confirm have adhd also

[green wharf]

eat some eggs and you get your b12

[urban skiff]

Everyone with ADHD needs to check if they have the MTHFR mutation by the way.

It's apparently very common in people with ADHD

[chilly pivot]

how to make a bloodlust macro for a shaman so i allways put it on my warrior partner

[urban skiff]

it's complicated but doable

is your warrior always the same name?

[chilly pivot]

yes

[urban skiff]

then you do [@"playername-servername"]

[chilly pivot]

the whole macro plz 😛

[urban skiff]

#showtooltip
/use [@"playername-servername"] bloodlust

[chilly pivot]

its stil use bloodlust if hes not in range ?

[hot solstice]

just use party 1 and 2 macro cba

[urban skiff]

absolutely not

[hot solstice]

changing mate nname every time

lmao

[fierce elm]

I do that in solo shuffle on ret