pvp

[wheat jay]

No

Galachad is long gone

[lavish quest]

Artji made some advances, he felt uncomfortable and left

[wheat jay]

Ye

Leland on the other hand

I advanced quite deep

[frank knoll]

That fool would argue for the sake of arguing

[fierce elm]

so like everyone here

[deep condor]

Should I feel good about hitting 2k+ as arms in solo or is it so inflated I'm still really 1500 and have learned nothing

Because I kinda feel like it's the latter lol

[fierce elm]

You should pride yourself on whatever achievement you can and not look for validation from other people

[rancid granite]

if you feel you did well and are learning be proud of yourself :)

[deep condor]

Well I'm not basing my self esteem on it lol, just bullshitting while I work out

[fierce elm]

I mean its the answer to your concern lmao

[rancid granite]

i hit ~2200 but i definitely still feel like an 1800 player

and i feel good about it

[fierce elm]

from what I have seen the MMR boost seems to have affected 1400-1700 players mostly

But when coming above 2.1-2.2 you seem to be facing people who should be there

[full quiver]

Lol 2300-2400

Is like deflated af in shuffle and 3s

[frank knoll]

Hit 2.4 on BM
Still feel like an 1800 player

Did it in like 2 days

[green wharf]

imagine not having 25% verst and 10% speed

smh

[fierce elm]

Thats just you playing BM right now though

[rancid granite]

yeah its borderline unplayable ngl

need like 2 extra sockets

[full quiver]

What's ur bm name lol

I prob queued into you

[frank knoll]

SSDS

[wheat jay]

Ahh yes

The hardest spec

Only for the smartest players

[full quiver]

Lol

[limber relic]

what is this dmg lmao

[kind sentinel]

Yo someone should foreal pin this

timeless advice

[green wharf]

I pride myself for not being a filthy paladin, evoker or DH player

[slow solstice]

its good applies to everything

[urban skiff]

just dinged

all I need to do is transfer my macros and I have two warriors

[brazen quartz]

noob question : does upgrade the pvp gear item into 8/8 have effect?

[sharp meteor]

Not in pvp, no.

[verbal tangle]

The pvp scaling overrides the pve leveling system

[brazen quartz]

noted2 thanks for the help

[chilly magnet]

Rogues be annoying lol

[fickle bay]

HEy guys what hero talent do we use for arms?

[jovial torrent]

most go slayer

[jovial torrent]

i swear bg blitz q buggs somtimes, just had a 5 min queue, my next queue is currently at 34 mins

[jovial torrent]

i cant wait to be done with this

our fc ran into tunnel losing our healers letting em get a comeback cap

[urban skiff]

Imma be real with you. Colossus felt really good for me today

[jovial torrent]

i just feel like ive had no impact today

literally top dmg every game and its a 50/50 flip if the next 4 dmg are on my team or theirs

[urban skiff]

How are you doing your burst? I like to finish demolish with sharpen+ bladestorm. That's a very long time to be unstunnable.

[jovial torrent]

i do dragon roar into avatar/sweeping pop, warbreaker bladestorm, stormbolt em halfway through bs, as stuns about to end sharpen

problem is its soooooo easy to interrupt caps and stuff so ppl just spin forever and have time to run back to the fight

or il be doing great dmg and pressuring someone but 2nd 3rd and 4th dmg are all on enemy team so my pressure doesnt matter that much

i honestly wana drop shockwave

feels like its just a button to DR my rogue teammates

[jovial torrent]

300 to go

tho honestly tempted to try fury

just need a bit more conquest and i can make some mastery accesories

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff yknow how we talked about Outlaw running a dagger, so turns out its less than 1% and only if you use instant poison

but you use wound poison everytime due to healing reduction

[urban skiff]

I like telling people at the start to not kill oom healers but keep them in combat. They can't transition to next objective and they can't do anything when they get there

[urban skiff]

I think it's also energy regen on offhand. It's not normalized but a fixed chance per hit

[fierce elm]

that could be fair

[urban skiff]

When are you getting grades?

[fierce elm]

they did mention its due to PvE things

later probably

I checked when I woke up and nothing

but I figure some time after lunch/afternoon

[urban skiff]

I can't get any work done because i'm so excited

[fierce elm]

aight I got one grade at least

for Energy Tech

but that was the easy course

So figure somewhere around lunch I will get results

also I still dont get grades man, like do I need a perfect result for an A what the FUCK is this

49/55 on Energy Tech and I get a B

LIKE HELLO

[fierce elm]

LETS FUCKING GO @urban skiff I PASSED

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah!

One step closer to becoming a zappyboi!

[winged quest]

shocwave 3+ peoples is op

[green wharf]

in shuffle is so satisfying to get 3 people

[fierce elm]

its time to bring it back

[green wharf]

i was going back to my war too, but dk is quite fun

but i had to change hero spec, cause im feed on the horseman one

[fierce elm]

I just wanna grab the ELITE set

[fickle forge]

Halfway there with Hpala brother @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

I mean

just get someone to boost you inTWW

Grab a twink friend, have him solo dungeons in like 2 minutes

get insta queues due to him queueing as tank

dont have to do shit as he does 2 million DPS just whirlwinding

you just watch Netflix on a 2nd monitor or do w.e

thats how I am leveling Warrior

[green wharf]

i level doing timewalking

finnaly dropped the infinite dragon last month

after 4k tries

[fierce elm]

its the fastest way

its no time from 10-70

Then 70-80 takes a lil bit of time

but in like less than 30 minutes I have gone from 73-76

the worst level is 79-80 but even that is fine

[green wharf]

i did on remix, in 4 hours you had a max lv character

i leveled like, 2 chars of the same class, 3 for plate users

[fierce elm]

Remix was wild

it was less than 4 hours

your first one took some time

the rest were crazy fast lmao

[green wharf]

everyone is 70, but i have no interest in levleing then anymore, just thinking i get sleepy

[green wharf]

well, yeah i was pretty lazy there

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge give me some Fury rotation

[green wharf]

did more raids than DG

[wheat jay]

Rampage, bloodthirst, raging blow

Rinse repeat

[fickle forge]

Rampage, BS, Onslaught, Exe, RB, BT
In that order

[green wharf]

how can you start with rampage without rage

[fickle forge]

It's a priority order

Not a sequence

[fierce elm]

So weird having BT have no priority

Do you just send BS without the stacks?

[fickle forge]

Idc for any stacks

I just press BT when nothing else is available

[fierce elm]

aight sick

So Spam RB, hit Onslaught whenever up, Hit rampage whenever up, hit Exe whenever you can

sick

BT last choice

[fickle forge]

It's that easy yeah

And then BS is the big pop

[fierce elm]

So Ava+reck+Roar then BS?

while enraged of course

something like that at least

[slow solstice]

i would onslaught before bs

[fierce elm]

Something like that

I mean as long as you are enraged it shouldnt matter much no?

[slow solstice]

yeah

the less rage you waste for am

the more damage you do

[lavish quest]

Just slap your fingers on the keyboard. It'll work out

[fierce elm]

there we go

80

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge do you play am or reckless?

[fierce elm]

you play AM

[wheat jay]

Wack

Ngl I like big bloodbath hits

[fierce elm]

Also the Ring from Isle is max 639

oh no

no main stat though

[wheat jay]

Its for procs

[fierce elm]

and secondaries

[wheat jay]

Which will do 0 dmg in pvp is presume

[fierce elm]

like 1200 to each secondary

if you use 3 of those gems that give secondary stats

or 800 to each secondary and 1800 to your highest secondary

[elfin surge]

hello warrior pvp chat

[fierce elm]

welcome back from retirement mud

[elfin surge]

when is plunderstorm patch

[fierce elm]

ur nan

we dont know yet

[elfin surge]

what patch is it

11.0.7

[fierce elm]

12

[elfin surge]

?

[slow solstice]

but now i only need 1 item for achieve

i think plunderstorm was announced for jan-feb

[fierce elm]

Where christmas icon @tribal holly

huh

[tribal holly]

Is it christmas

[fierce elm]

Im boutta freak the fuck ouit

ITS DECEMBER 2ND

[tribal holly]

So no

[fierce elm]

Where CHRISTMAS SERVER ICON

[tribal holly]

Idk

Probably lost in the matrix

[fierce elm]

oh my lord

[tribal holly]

Christmas icon soon™️

[fierce elm]

True Blizzard fashion

staying true

[tribal holly]

It is what it is

Im tired and cold because the weather is fucked

We get winter for 4 hours and then its gone again

[fierce elm]

We got snow one time

now its just darkness

[urban skiff]

When do you slam?

[slow solstice]

never

[tribal holly]

Id take darkness over iceroads

Lowkey considered using skates instead of shoes when i went to school

[fickle forge]

AM

[fickle forge]

When I invite your sister over

[urban skiff]

So your slam levels remain at 0?

[fierce elm]

Here I am leveling to 80 in 1.5-2hrs

This guy hardstuck

[urban skiff]

Need someone to farm conq with later? I got a turbo sham

[fierce elm]

I mean ima just go into solo shuffle on Outlaw

figure I can learn that while farming conq for my warr

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-space-jam-gilly-and-keeves-shane-gillis-sleep-cop-gif-21257334

[fierce elm]

We are fucking OUT HERE

[rancid granite]

i dig the rogue mog a lot

[fierce elm]

everything is just a full set lmao

Got so fucking locked into the Pirate theme naming it Rumnbass

also why are the christmas weapons like 700 tenders what the fuck

[rancid granite]

right i've been looking how to get more tender

just gotta quest and do stuff outside pvp and dornogal???

wheres the shop tender $_$

[fierce elm]

but even then

you get like 500 per month

the FUCK

[rancid granite]

you can upgrade tww for 50 bux for like 80 tenders :)

[fierce elm]

already got that edition lmao

[fickle forge]

Unbound it

[fickle forge]

I leveled for 1 hour yd

[fierce elm]

Just get a TWW boost man

[fickle forge]

No

[fierce elm]

oh my LORD

We are waiting for you MAN

[fickle forge]

I was forced to watch the Chicago trials yd okay

I was doneso

Flatlined

[fierce elm]

I mean all you do is just accept the queue

lmao

[fickle forge]

No

[fierce elm]

Here we are

READY for you

[fickle forge]

And you'll continue to wait until I engage my Hpala drive

So n 2026

[fierce elm]

oh my lord

PLAY WOW

[fickle forge]

No

I have to watch La La Land today

[fierce elm]

the entire day

and night

[tribal holly]

Well you know how it goes with romantic movies and girls

[fierce elm]

Not for him

[tribal holly]

Im pretty sure La La Land is universal

[urban skiff]

If a movie is romantic enough you know the next 1 minute 13 seconds are going to be locked in!

[fickle forge]

The music is kinda fire though

And the cast is lit

But it's 100% for her sake

[fierce elm]

w a c k

my guy could be playing wow instead

[fickle forge]

[lavish quest]

He's a simp now, GGs

[exotic forge]

Loving your lady is not simping

But y'know what they say, love is temporary, Doom is Eternal or smth like that

[fierce elm]

simp

[green wharf]

what do you do with the 1 minute left though

[urban skiff]

Wash my butt

[urban skiff]

Form is temporary. PR is forever

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff stop sniping my solo shuffles

[fickle forge]

Big damage

What was his dps?

@fierce elm

[exotic forge]

[fierce elm]

He is doing aight damage tbh

but its so useless compared to fury lmao

bigger executes than you

[urban skiff]

Man i'm not even playing until tonight

Why he slamming so much

[fierce elm]

idk man

19 slams last round

if he can cleave he pumps though

[fickle forge]

That's not what I asked

[fierce elm]

my outlaw is 1921

im GAMING

Tbf it was mostly fucking annoying with the roots lmao

Also opened 3 chests on warrior

2 duplicates

what the FUCK

[fallen estuary]

Yo you can slam in prot?

I didnt think abt that

[rancid granite]

a slam prot build?? what kind of twilight zone build is this??

i feel like im not looking at this right or its an editted meme

[urban skiff]

Opened 9. Had 3 i couldn't use. Overall satisfied

[sharp meteor]

Ye.

[sharp meteor]

All the mods it keeps getting to buff arms also affects prot.

So single target when no shield slam or execute it kind of smacks.

[rancid granite]

i will have to put it on my hotbar

it hasn't been on there since tbc

[fierce elm]

what the FUCK

I am just praying for no weapon or trinket and I get duplicate instead lmao

[lavish quest]

Conquest boxes so bad now

Just farm conq on the toon

[jovial torrent]

play a healer in solo shuffle, disable chat collect your free 50 conquest per game

[urban skiff]

Lmao what. I dinged last night, logged out. 15 minutes after logging in i had ilvl 532.

[lavish quest]

Just farm 1400 brain deads in 2s

[jovial torrent]

tru

[lavish quest]

Did I stutter?

[urban skiff]

I prefer playing over feeding the ladder

[lavish quest]

How is it feeding if I'm winning?

Ding alt. Give alt full honor gear. Destroy the noobs. Profit

[exotic forge]

Who's slamming as prot?

[wheat jay]

criminals

[urban skiff]

Slam should be an empowered spell with 99 stages

[exotic forge]

99 stages of grief, more like

[urban skiff]

Total cast time of 1 gcd

[fierce elm]

I mean I gotta learn Outlaw

so not like I am losing anything not doing it on warrior

who the fuck needs to learn warrior

[cinder thorn]

You don't need to learn warrior just slam

[lavish quest]

Just uber wasted conquest unless ya gonna have excess anyways

I've got some, because I was playing my war naturally

[fierce elm]

I gain conq naturally

by playing outlaw

I do get it if you gotta learn the spec

[lavish quest]

Well get a life

[full quiver]

Afro is morbidly obese to the point where it affects his mobility so wow is his only outlet. It's very rude of you to suggest he get a life outside of the game when it's impossible for him to fo so

[rancid granite]

a natural power lifter

[verbal tangle]

Well maybe if he quit leveling Dex he could lift himself out of his chair

[chilly pivot]

i see ppl going full algari, is better then pvp gear?

alot on 2400+ going this now

[jovial torrent]

i dunno if fury can hit versatility cap the vendor pvp gear has high versa so that might be why they go for it

[fierce elm]

Scooberz has the bones and ligaments of a 90 year old

[wheat jay]

and calves of an infant

[chilly pivot]

and do i want full mastery gear or some haste? any news about the best prio

[fierce elm]

its the same as it has been big man

Some haste, some mastery

[chilly pivot]

this is my stats

but think i will change to like this

and swap back to ascension from dubble lens

[fierce elm]

I would drop some mast for haste personally but I dont think its gonna matter

Personally find Ascendance dogshit

Compared to Lens

[chilly pivot]

hmm

everyone use ascendance when i chech top leaderboard

[fierce elm]

And they can feel free to do that

Personally think its shit regardless

I also dont think it matters for anyone whether they go lens or that

[full quiver]

Not anymore

[urban skiff]

poop juice

[full quiver]

Lol

Idk elbow tendinopathy is gone after 4 days

[spice hornet]

Roids? Make sure @elfin surge gets some he definitely needs it

[full quiver]

Its an alternative to bpc157 since fda banned it

[chilly pivot]

cant i use my conquest for add gem socket or atleast swap to honor?

[urban skiff]

no

use it on mogs

[violet fossil]

whole warrior discord could use some

[chilly pivot]

what mogs

[urban skiff]

non elite pvp gear

[chilly pivot]

ugly xd

[exotic forge]

excuse me

[lyric violet]

Bpc is illegal now?

[true tiger]

maybe rich ppl who wanted full pvp asap went

[fierce elm]

doesnt work like that

[true tiger]

never seen anyone with full algari and only explanation is that they crafted pvp gear bcs they wanted full gear fast

idk

[valid kettle]

Or for preferred stat allocation…

[chilly pivot]

Full allgari is better then pvp gear

[lyric violet]

More damage id imagine since youre getting more haste/mast per slot

[chilly pivot]

Yeah but less vers, and vers is also dmg?

But stil allgari gives more dmg i guess

[lavish quest]

^

Can technically go no verse if you wanted to with that stuff too

Super customizable stats

[exotic forge]

stupid versatility

[true tiger]

vers is goated

defensive also dmg

why everyone hates it

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-17550107775956741096

[fierce elm]

Because people dum dum

[fierce elm]

Its the same speed as acquiring regular PvP gear

[spice hornet]

You don’t want to stack it as much as you used to in like BFA

[fierce elm]

becuase you still need the conquest

[spice hornet]

Swear some people think it’s like BFA gearing

[fierce elm]

It all comes down to just allocating stats that you feelycraft are better than others

[cinder thorn]

can someone point me out how to track the fury 4 piece set bonus, I cant see any buff to bloodthirst appearing on my bar

[full quiver]

Because it's less verse

It balances stats 50/50 where verse is waited more on pvp gear

Like doing alagari weps swaps to 50/50 from 30/70

[fierce elm]

You should not go haste/mast on a crafted piece

dont be overcooking

Personally I always craft neck+both rings on a new toon

gives embellish immediately and 3 pieces

[violet fossil]

weighted??????

[fierce elm]

If I was playing Paladin sure

But I also dont think one piece is going to swing my winrate either way if its the same ilvl

in the end its a 639 piece with hast/mast/crit and vers

[full quiver]

Lmao

Yes

[violet fossil]

Test is getting to ya head

[full quiver]

Monkey brain

[violet fossil]

Ooo ooo aah aah

[green wharf]

i did a shield slam that did more damage than fury execute

[spice hornet]

You executing naked? My guru executes do almost 2M

Fury

[reef sorrel]

Fury is 2 hits and on details youll only see 1, it hits hard always. Its 1mil+500k usually

[stark agate]

Can DH slow you while bladestorming?

[lavish quest]

No

[chilly pivot]

Is this stats higher if ppl logout with buffs on? I have same gear as this Guy but he have higher stats on pvp check

[fierce elm]

it doesnt affect it

but you are reading into this way too much

[chilly pivot]

Nah, but isnt wierd we have exactly same gear but i have less stats ?

[fierce elm]

I wouldnt trust any online stat sites like those honestly

[chilly pivot]

Haha okey

[fierce elm]

they tend to be wildly inaccurate

[chilly pivot]

Just thinking i miss something

[fierce elm]

you probably arent

[chilly pivot]

It must affect some buffs then

[fierce elm]

Or it can just be that any online site tracking stats like that can be inaccurate

which has been proven true for a bit

or difference in gems

If you have full conquest gear and full gems/enchants you arent missing anything

[chilly pivot]

Idk , think my char is broken

[urban skiff]

Fury execute is 2 parts per cast. 2/3 is mainhand, 1/3 is offhand

[chilly pivot]

@fierce elm oh they upgraded some pcs higher ilvl thats why it show wrong

[green wharf]

its does shit damage anyway

[urban skiff]

Sure, but fury throws out 2-3 executes for every arms' execute.

Whole point of fury is hamspam

[fickle forge]

2M is shit?

[green wharf]

You do 2m damage with execute as fury?

[winged quest]

yes

[green wharf]

i dont believe it

[fickle forge]

Yep

I think I peaked at like 1.9M Exe on arms

And like 3M MS or smth

[green wharf]

pics or didnt happened

[fickle forge]

What for arms?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1311466431636045944/image.png?ex=674f8d4b&is=674e3bcb&hm=b10b19caa13a9ca5a33cd412189e0c10a19e71c52cbba71e78b58b859398815d&

[green wharf]

Fury

[fickle forge]

I'd need to do it again then, I play fury like 0.1% of the time

[onyx marlin]

man i love colossus but slayer just does way too much more dps

[frigid thicket]

is this true

[fierce elm]

is this false

[fickle forge]

I can't make slayer do dam

I outdam on colo any time I can use sweeping, and slightly behind without it

[forest lark]

What rating you play abouts? Like is colo actually viable on high level?

[fickle forge]

Viable? Petkick is playing TSG with colo arms at 2700

It's def viable

[fierce elm]

Karg is playing at 1400

[fickle forge]

Says in my title what I am bro

[solemn tide]

Yo fellas, my homie and I are just getting back into arena after not touching it since SL. We wanna play some war hpal 2s, should I be playing fury or arms. Both seem viable, but I enjoy playing what’s best lmao

[lavish quest]

There's more fury at the top of 2s than arms. Do with that information what you will

[sterile moth]

Who does Petkick play TSG with or does he play the warrior?

[elfin surge]

Vices & Zhang

[sterile moth]

@elfin surge thanks. Love your vids.

[elfin surge]

[full quiver]

Lol

[lavish quest]

Mud makes vids?

[fierce elm]

He is EU so 2700 EU is 1400 NA

[hasty pulsar]

i swear I cannot queue for blitz anymore during certain times

but i also cannot tell which times are best

[lavish quest]

Do you try to make sure you only flip coins at the right times too?

[hasty pulsar]

lol

sometimes it doesnt even feel 50/50

[fierce elm]

You log in, you sit queue, you get a queue pop

[hasty pulsar]

feel like im on a list

[fierce elm]

you accept

you fight

you win or lose

repeat

[hasty pulsar]

im a bad boy list from blizz

[lavish quest]

You are the list? Impressive

[hasty pulsar]

i am being punished

[fierce elm]

Blizzard is spanking you

[hasty pulsar]

yes

i been a bad bad boy

[lavish quest]

Is it getting hot in here?

[hasty pulsar]

XD

[fierce elm]

Kargish tells me he is busy

Is in an ARENA rn

without our healer

my guy is 100% gaming with the La La Land girl

[lavish quest]

This is how girls get glad right?

[fierce elm]

Here we are

ready to play Outlaw/Fire/Hpala

and he is out here trying to flirt with a girl with his shitty 2s gameplay

[lavish quest]

That's missing an arms war bro

[fierce elm]

He is an hpala now

Because "WE HAVE NO COMPS FOR OUTLAW"

and James doesnt wanna play Ret/warr

[lavish quest]

He became the egirl?

[fierce elm]

So I told him if he plays 100 games with his hpala as outlaw/fire/hpala

then I will level and gear my Shaman

so we can play Thunder

[lavish quest]

Aren't you an 1800 rogue?

[fierce elm]

excuse me

I am an 1930 rogue rn

I am a GAMER

hardcore GAMER

[lavish quest]

Forgive me, mi lord

[fierce elm]

I am out here gaming dood

I have pulled my MMR from the dumpster

to now gaining 60 rating from 4-2s

[lavish quest]

Idk cuz I don't play it, but everyone just says outlaw is fury 2.0

[fierce elm]

Its better fury

in every way

[lavish quest]

Everything is

[fierce elm]

Fast as fuck, deals more damage, has more CC, has more defensives, better repositioning and keeping up

its wild

Maybe that is what happens when you put a Specs damage cooldowns on a sub 1 minute timer

and give them 3 damage cooldowns

with one having a 2 stack and one being less than like a 20s cooldown for 15% extra damage

Though I am itching to play some Assa

[full quiver]

Eu is more inflated noob

[fierce elm]

That is literally what I said

[lavish quest]

Bare with him. EU brain lag

[fierce elm]

Scoobz is literally AMERICAN

[lavish quest]

God damnit scoobs

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

Stop making us look bad

[fierce elm]

dont fuck with my rogue

[lavish quest]

And I need a thunder carry to glad. Tenks

Jk, glad mount is shit.

[lavish quest]

He's peaking?

[dawn sail]

CLIMBING

[slow solstice]

meow

[lavish quest]

My kitten?

😂

[slow solstice]

in the world where i learn to heal

[lavish quest]

It was painful to watch you die with all your cds or barrier me after 5 mins into the match when they already rotted me to 10% and it's getting unhealable

[slow solstice]

watching me play not warrior or dk

[lavish quest]

Maybe I heal you next time

I can egirl to an 1800 level at least

[slow solstice]

its very obvious im a onetrick

[lavish quest]

Probably further but I've never pushed it past

[slow solstice]

i could probably play ret as well

i go shower before vault

[lavish quest]

I'm a 1 trick. I just started collecting elite sets in DF S2 onwards

I'm at work anyways

[frank knoll]

That’s like 2k now in 3s
Gg

[echo garden]

big sockets baby

[urban skiff]

Weekdays: after work hours. 16.30 to 22.00. (especially wednesday and thursday).
Weekends: from 10.00 to 18.00 and 19.30 to 23.00

[hasty pulsar]

ty

[lone thistle]

what are you guys using? Powerful Enrage or Frenzied Enrage?

i have 17% haste in pvp

30% master 30% versa

dunno where to go with stats at this point

[urban skiff]

long cooldowns make no sense. Imagine how fucking boring overwatch would be if there was a 3 minute cooldown on big dam.

Bring back shorter but less impactful cooldowns.

[patent forum]

I don’t even get an average wait time counter anymore

[sterile moth]

Omg

[elfin surge]

bro thinks 45 minutes is long?

did you play df s1?

[hasty pulsar]

the game just gave me a loss for a blitz match that never even started up.. said 'game ending in 2 minutes not enoguh players' and it never even ported me to the instance or anyything has this ever happened to you guys?

[fallen estuary]

1 hour bros

[patent forum]

@elfin surge first time back since SL S1, didnt know it got this bad

[elfin surge]

It's gotten better.

I remember sitting 1-2 hour qs during prime time in dragonflight

[patent forum]

im only q-ing at 2.4 though

how bad is it when youre higher

[elfin surge]

just holds you more to playing during prime time the higher rating you get

[rancid granite]

why?

[elfin surge]

i dont think the healer change was added back then

if you were 3600 you had to find 3600 healers

now healers can be different to dps

[rancid granite]

i mean, not how, but why lmao

aint nobody got time for that

any q past 20mins and im already out of the pvp mood

[elfin surge]

yup exactly the same for me

[full quiver]

Because some people only like to pvp

Can just sit afk in shuffle queue and play another game or watch something

[rancid granite]

there can be other pvp to do that doesnt take so long idk

[elfin surge]

im not really a fan of shuffle

im a 3v3 enjoyer

[patent forum]

what happened to the stream mud

[elfin surge]

not playing

[patent forum]

not gonna play at all for the rest of the season?

[lavish quest]

He plays 2 weeks a season. Ya missed out

[spice hornet]

made the mistake of letting our cat outside to sniff grass and walk around for a few minutes, now he meows for about 5 hours every morning non-stop to be let outside, wtf do i do man

[full quiver]

😂

Cant unopen the box

[sharp meteor]

Well, there's either ignoring it or taking them out on little walks from time to time.

Can also spook them when they're outside by turning on the car or something.

[spice hornet]

good idea

we moved into a new place earlier in the year and had wine glasses on the counters to put away, he tried jumping up there and knocked them all down and shattered them, hasn't tried to jump on the counter ever since then, love it

[rancid granite]

let'm outside??? build a cat fence, get a cat leash

touch grass at the same time

:D

[spice hornet]

we did let him out but my wife gets pissed because he hunts lizards and brings them back in the house

[sharp meteor]

Ye, nothing like a little harmless trauma to keep them out of trouble.

Indoor catto gonna get run over or eaten outside.

[spice hornet]

yeah its too unsafe

[sharp meteor]

So lawn mower/car noises or get barked at by big dog and cat usually realizes life indoors is okay

[spice hornet]

yeee i was thinking of letting my friends dog in via the backyard door while hes out there and hopefully scares him enough to never go again

@sharp meteor twitch reveal when?

[rancid granite]

the one time my cat got out; neighbor was mowing the lawn - went out to look for her and she's by the door just begging to get back in lmao

scared straight

but still

CAT LEASH

walk it like a dog

[spice hornet]

it takes awhile to leash train a cat you really gotta do it when theyre kittens

you put it on now with a harness and they wont move

and im assuming the same problem will happen where he will meow to be walked multiple times a day

[rancid granite]

cat fence aka cat jail

[full quiver]

Hahahaha

Our cat as a kid would leave mice brains and eyes in our living room

Thanks dude appreciate it

[rancid granite]

ever see a squirrel with only it's jaw surgically removed?

demon cats, man

[spice hornet]

what's interesting is that he doesn't try to escape from the backyard, the problem is that my wife doesn't like him bringing lizards and shit in, she screams (kind of annoying) when she seems them, also he got fleas one time

[rancid granite]

the fleas can be soooooo bad

but yeah there's so many reasons why it's not great to dwell outside :(

[cinder thorn]

why would you prevent your cat from leaving

if it can cross the fence it can cross back

the truth is if it doesnt want to come back it doesnt want u

someone else taking better care of it

[fierce elm]

Maybe live by a big road or something

who knows

Maybe has a ton of wild animals such as coyotes and shit around them

plenty of reasons

[spice hornet]

good way to have your cat die or never re-appear one day

[rancid granite]

within a weeks time

[chilly pivot]

how to farm honor fastest?

[fierce elm]

playing the bracket you win the most in

[chilly pivot]

isnt some bgs good for it?

[fierce elm]

the daily wins are worth

for everything

First epic BG is like 1200-1400 honor

[rancid granite]

spam q blitz

and do the weeklies

actually

spam q blitz + do sparks in queue

[sharp meteor]

Battlegrounds.

Daily wins in every bracket.

[jovial torrent]

just faced against a fury warrior, pres evoker duo in blitz flag map, that was the lamest thing ive ever seen

multi leaps into rescue , nullshield

the warrior was in like honor greens and he is at 2450 mmr

[slow solstice]

noob

[cinder thorn]

how tf im in the queue for solo for 1hr and no pop, im not that high only 2.1k

must be my prey knows when the predator is out and they dont queue when im online

[urban skiff]

i think the queue this week is bugged

r/worldofpvp has immediately declared pvp dead so maybe there's a chance queue is buggy

[jovial torrent]

i do feel like its buggy af somtimes, like il get a 5 min queue , then randomly my next one is like 50 minutes

should probs just reset q if it ever goes over 20 mins

[urban skiff]

in my experience if the queue is way under or way above average i shouldn't take it

it means someone is getting beatdown and it's usually me

[jovial torrent]

my bg q is shorter now at 2400 mmr than between 1600-2.2k

i swear half the games are premades tho

wayyy to many times i get like 3 ppl declining a q pop instantly

[urban skiff]

flag map

[cinder thorn]

thx

[urban skiff]

least we got the speedy healer and more MS effects

[slow solstice]

how did you elvel this fast

[cinder thorn]

I might quit, im getting bored of waiting for pops every day

most my time is spent waiting for queue rather than playing this game

[fierce elm]

70-80*

[slow solstice]

https://tenor.com/s5FVyEB75Au.gif

[fierce elm]

Just had a friend with a level 11 fury twink boost me

[slow solstice]

im leveling a warrior for splits

man fuck leveling

[chilly magnet]

1 on 1 arms colossus vs slayer who u got.

[slow solstice]

enhance

[jovial torrent]

actually not sure if the slayer dmg outpaces the free 5% dmg reduction of colossus

[lavish quest]

I have a 70+ warrior of every race except well now dragons and earthen

We went yuge into remix

[urban skiff]

START COLLECTING FLOWERS OR ROCKS

[urban skiff]

slayer having to content with veteran vitality as well

I don't have my money on slayer if the arms can land demolishes, which assuming fairness in the matchup, they would.

[fickle forge]

Done both specs a fair by now, and honestly I do more damage with Colossus

[cinder thorn]

I have flowers and rocks on all my 4 warriors

[urban skiff]

brooooo

why did i /wave instead of /hug

[jovial torrent]

im so bored of monks, we killed him so many times but we were stuck with a shaman trying to waddle the flag across the map all game

[urban skiff]

I feel like a big issue is that some classes are really good at fighting and moving at the same time

and others aren't

EFC doesn't have to be fast. He just has to be faster

[chilly pivot]

are u all guys alrdy 2400+ in soloq arena?

[jovial torrent]

yeh, i just cannot for the life of me stick on pres evokers

[urban skiff]

naw

[jovial torrent]

but rogues and dk have spammable passive slows

and grips

i feel like having a good dk actually hard wins flag maps

and a rogue who can duel well

cus u just wait for the bonus dmg to ramp up duel and delete the fc in a single stun

id be down to switch to dk cus i always loved it since mop, but im too deep in now, i cba climbing all the way back up at + 20 a game

[vagrant saddle]

How's prot these days in RBGs/BGs?

[urban skiff]

fun as heck

big dam

but you gotta know how to support

what

[jovial torrent]

so many bg blitz game i lose im like how

i can literally hold one of their healers hostage and we still somehow lose every other base

[urban skiff]

lost one because half the team got distracted trying to kill a single rogue just waitling at me instead of running past up to EFC

literally if they had killed efc instead of trying to save me we would have won instead of lost

[jovial torrent]

alot of people also ditch a base when i appear at it, il come we wipe em take it

then everyone leaves

and wars are dogshit at solo def base

[urban skiff]

They're not the worst but they do have a bad time if the wrong spec tries to cap

[jovial torrent]

u wont beat a good ret feral rogue

[urban skiff]

Few will

[jovial torrent]

problem is u cant trinket anything

u trinket blind, u get kidney

[urban skiff]

having a longer cooldown on heroic throw than base cap cast time is fucking nuts though

literally we cannot stop them twice at range

[urban skiff]

you have to stand so far away they can't make it to flag and cap

not stand on top of it

also periodically pick up the stealth detection buff and use BGE to track location of all stealthers

I have a macro in BGE, let me post it

[jovial torrent]

ideally yeh, but then they just drop smoke bomb

[urban skiff]

smokebomb you can leap

you're not going to be solo defending

but you can make it take a long time

[jovial torrent]

yeh yeh u can say well x beats y, but eventually they will take the base from u

just cus they have 3 dr to rotate through on lowish cd

i will get there eventually just all these random losses make it take so much longer

atm i lose 0 cr gain about 17 per win

nearly got enough conquest to have a fury set of accesories too so then i can do some solo shuffle between

[urban skiff]

nobody can solo defend against a good rogue or feral

that's the point

you defend until someone comes to rescue you

as long as trinkets are longer cooldown than cc you can never defend against cap indefinitely

Ironically we're probably the best at solo capping vs pet classes

[jovial torrent]

i think 8 of my like 14 games today have been twin peaks, send help

[urban skiff]

i pray

[jovial torrent]

its crazy how big the CR disparity is in my games still

have people from 1600cr-2500cr in the same game

[urban skiff]

CR is reward

MMR is your rating

[jovial torrent]

yeh, its just silly how different they are

they need to boost cr gains in bg

[urban skiff]

I wish they'd restructure reward system and just have one single rating instead

make rewards based on your ladder% spot after week x and hand out rewards on reset day

make it a reward track like plunderstorm where higher spot on leader board awards more exp/renown per week

i unironically miss the vanilla system for ranking up

[jovial torrent]

id honestly be down to lower the req of a bunch of rewards

but keep the r1 stuff the same

even some sort of battlepass system, or incentise people to play more of the season

not just blast at the start and end

[urban skiff]

is why I'm a fan of the old system

rewards for playing all season

Unfortunately it also means you're effed if you join late and that's really bad

I'm sure if anyone could figure out a system that rewards skill, rewards persistence, but doesn't punish if you're late to start, it would be amazing

[full quiver]

Could have it preserve your mmr from prior season and just reduce it like 300

[chilly pivot]

allways top dmg in 3s, but never in solo, its so wierd hmm

[jovial torrent]

i feel like in 3's u can trust yourself to play agressive

solo its like o shi am i dieing am i not

[urban skiff]

if we get a really inflated season you'd be punished in subsequent seasons for not having participated in that

see honor levels

[jovial torrent]

i only played a few season of ff14 but i really liked their system

[urban skiff]

BGB is so frustrating, third match in a row where I'm stuck with the same healer going "BAD TEAM GO NEXT" after getting behind one skirmish

[jovial torrent]

it was a battlepass like thing with alot of cosmetic rewards and u would earn shards that you could spend on "elite sets", so u could earn multiple class sets on the same char

[urban skiff]

he's also 50% healing from first place healer

[urban skiff]

I absolutely loathe the system they put into D4

full stop

I'm a massive diablo fan, but that battlepass is just killing my interest in the game

[jovial torrent]

i missed that one, ff14 was kind of like bg blitz but it was all just push a cart maps

the battlepass in ff14 wasnt super grindy like diablo

[urban skiff]

BGB is a great idea, but they need to design all new maps for it, that are made to funnel players intuitively into fighting in the same places

instead of needing instructions at the start

see overwatch maps

[full quiver]

Would self correct

Worse players would drop

[jovial torrent]

they need to disable all movement abilities for flag carrying and increase the cap time of bases to like 6 seconds

but make it so only direct damage can break capping

[urban skiff]

punished not in that you'd be behind, but you would have to put in more work to catch up and they would benefit from playing the least

I really like how other games do CC

Overwatch, bloodrite, HotS, etc. They all have really short duration cc that also have short cooldowns

no getting taken out of the game for 12+ seconds at a time nonsense. Just a short stop and then back into action

also significantly fewer slows

[jovial torrent]

its crazy but this is actually alot less hard cc than it used to be

[urban skiff]

Make more cc skillshots. Rogue blind should be like hunter trap or warrior spear

[jovial torrent]

u could legit be in like 30 second cc chains against rogue mage bnefore

[urban skiff]

I was around back when they implemented DR. I remember the days of 1 minute poly in pvp

[jovial torrent]

id be so down for some skillshot cc

loved wildstar pvp

they need to also relook melee slows, if some classes get free reapply of slows all should imo

or none

[urban skiff]

I feel weird about cc not needing you to face your target

[urban skiff]

they need to remove a lot of kite power from mages

A huge issue is that for some reason they decided mages should be ahead in the kiting arms race. Which means for melee to participate they need mobility. And all the other casters suffer from that

[jovial torrent]

yeh, they 100% just think about m+ gimmicks instead of making the casters even in pvp

[unreal copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866699859813859352/1246457163426172981/melon.gif

[jovial torrent]

h how did you know

[urban skiff]

is recklessness not giving proper crit chance for arms?

I feel like my paperdoll doesn't show it

[jovial torrent]

i dont run it tbh

[urban skiff]

I've been trying a critspear build to see what I can make work

yeah I think it's not workin

[jovial torrent]

i tried spear for a bit but it felt like monks evokers and some other classes could just randomly break it/bug it out

[urban skiff]

lots of classes can

I'm running it for the crit dam, not to keep them in place

so it's fear spear smash avatar+demolish sharpen+bladestorm

for some reason bladestorm can be casted faster out of demolish than other abilities

idk why

[jovial torrent]

i find thunderous roar + battlefield commander pvp talent is just too strong, 5% bonus dmg taken from everyone on your team for 16 seconds

on a 45 second cd

[urban skiff]

yes yes

but

big crit go brrrrrr

[jovial torrent]

i do hope they do somthing to try make spear work

i played spear quite a bit in shadowlands and it was alot of fun

condemn should have replaced execute too

[urban skiff]

I mean, they can just take inspiration from binding shot

[hasty pulsar]

which one of you is arguing with me in whispers and using this as a flex LOL

[urban skiff]

I miss condemn + executioner with no icd

[urban skiff]

not me, i'm almost out of my 1384 slump

[jovial torrent]

technically i am but its not me

hpal, mw monk and war

[hasty pulsar]

just had the funniest argument i nwhispers

[zinc coral]

is anyone here grinding blitz rbg as arms and can help me out a bit?

[kind sentinel]

whatcha need

[zinc coral]

what build should i run and also rotation etc would be super helpful

i run this atm no clue if thats good but the guy on murloc is using that but in bahjeera video he never uses thunder clap and theres not a lot of blitz content besides him on youtube i think (atleast i didnt found it)

[lone thistle]

is dracthyr warrior decent?

[fickle forge]

They could start by lowering the CD again

[exotic forge]

Or extend its duration

6 seconds is nothing

[violet fossil]

2k in blitz or wat

[hasty pulsar]

No idea lol

[urban skiff]

Make it fuck your shit up if you leave the circle.
Like binding shot, but with maybe damage and getting yoinked back no matter how you leave.

It's about time a melee class gets an unstable affliction type ability

[exotic forge]

^

[urban skiff]

and pick 2-4 specs that can break out at will to keep things fair, using their mobility.

Just not the usual suspects like paladin, mage, rogue

[cinder thorn]

Yes but not better than gnome

[sterile moth]

How is KFC this season? Might give that a shot

[wheat jay]

Fury bm with some meta healer

Is not the worst i guess

Maybe colossus arms and mm/survi, for cheeky oneshots?

But overall its a bad comp

[sterile moth]

Oh that sucks. Why isn’t it good?

[fierce elm]

Does things worse than any other hunter comp

its a fine comp for hitting w.e rating tbh

[slow solstice]

wtf does kfc mean

[fierce elm]

warr/hunt/healer

[hasty pulsar]

not bad, I enjoy extra crispy myself, mac and cheese, those famous bowls pretty popular too

[wheat jay]

Sucks in every possible way compared to other comps

Doesnt do amazing cc

Doesnt do super high dmg unless it's fury/bm but then if you play either of those there are better comps

Your self sustain is dogshit

You don't heal

Your team utility is also kinda ass

[lone thistle]

is going full versa bad? like 34% versa or above

[sterile moth]

Ok, thanks. @hasty pulsar famous bowls are good! Add in some Korean saucy nugs is A+

[fierce elm]

no

[jovial torrent]

are 2400 pvp and 2500 glow the same reward?

[fierce elm]

Yes, the armor glow is the same

[jovial torrent]

or is 2500 in m+ only the pve set glows and 2400 bg the pvp non elite glow

[fierce elm]

Its the same

[jovial torrent]

oh lol

[wheat jay]

For all armors and all specs and and all classes you havd

[jovial torrent]

guess il still try for 2400 for the tabard

[spice hornet]

KFC in America is so bad these days hasn’t been good in like over 10 years

And it’s expensive af

[ancient sonnet]

Everything is expensive af

[rancid granite]

i dont think fastfood was ever good we were just so used to it

[fierce elm]

Fastfood was decent for what it was

a buck of a cheeseburger and you cant expect much

Now its like 11 bucks for a meal

when you can pay 11 bucks for whatever else that is 100% better

Paying 11 bucks for a hamburger, drink and fries from McDonalds is wild

[full quiver]

Lol I like burgerville ans my double patty shake and fries is 21 dollars

[fierce elm]

Especially considering the fact that its not very filling

Like I can either go to Mcdonalds and pay that, or I can go pay 14 bucks for a drink+fries+hamburger from a real hamburger place

Or local pizza joint and get Kebab or something

[rancid granite]

same people who buy this the same people who complain eating healthy is expensive

[fierce elm]

It used to be affordable and fast

now its neither

[rancid granite]

ill save that 14 bucks and make a meal that'll last me more than ... 1 meal

[fierce elm]

Its just wack, especially considering that at least here you can pay 10 bucks for a kg of chicken breast

Then grab a big bag of rice for 4 bucks, whatever sauce for 2 bucks

boom you have like 5 meals depending on how much you eat

Like its wild when McDonalds have the same prices as gas station food lmao

[rancid granite]

people still show up so 🤷

in a hurry so gotta stop at mcd's; also $20 at starbucks for coffee

NP

[urban skiff]

play turbo or jungle instead, depending on if you're the warrior or hunter

[urban skiff]

literally quaffing a mcdick's milkshake

but i got a 4 pound glazed ham in the oven so

[jovial torrent]

subway is so expensive now for what it is

and i know for a fact kfc buckets went from like £26 to 32 in a single year

[urban skiff]

it's gonna get real cheap soon

outside the US anyways

[fierce elm]

Subway coupons were goated

two footlongs for 4 bucks hell yeah

[rancid granite]

A REAL MILKSHAKE IS SO EASY TO MAKE

[urban skiff]

my kid bought it for me while they were out shopping christmas decorations on a mother daughter trip

🫠

[rancid granite]

ok that's wholesome enough to make it taste good

livin the life bro

[urban skiff]

so now i drink my lukewarm milkshake with a melted straw and taste the love

[jovial torrent]

i was guna look up how to make my own kfc fries seasoning

[rancid granite]

lmfao

[urban skiff]

there's a youtuber who makes fastfood recipes and turn them into mealprep

if you want I can see if I can remember his name

Only tried the bigmac taco but it was delicious

[fierce elm]

Or just eat ground beef and rice daily

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/iZT-3a_iDEc

Ok I ididn't find the guy but this is way better than being informed

[fierce elm]

lmao I love that dude

[urban skiff]

He's the fucking best

[fierce elm]

He has vibes

[rancid granite]

you can skip it and go right to chickfila sammich

[urban skiff]

First video I saw was the one about how to cook bacon. For some inexplicable reason I looked it up on youtube to see some timer recommendations and his advice on just wangjangling it all in the pan absolutely changed my life

Anyone else miss the vault?

I feel like logging in on reset day has lost its appeal

[fierce elm]

I gave up on vault as soon as I hit 2500 in m+ lmao

[ancient sonnet]

Yea, no more dopamine hit 😦

[sharp meteor]

I miss SL gearing.

[fickle forge]

?????????

[urban skiff]

I miss anything that isn't current. That way i'm the most hip

[green wharf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRGDcwOxBzY&t=126s&ab_channel=cytroop

cant believe is my first time seeing this shit

[ancient sonnet]

It's a weak aura I believe

[fickle forge]

Honestly kind of outplayed?

[green wharf]

feral is such a stupid spec at this moment, you go bear form and you are a tank basically

[wheat jay]

as always

but they do 0 dmg while in bear

[fallen solar]

I just got kicked out of church for saying, “fuck the devil.” WTF? I thought we hated that morherfucker

[rancid granite]

no we show compassion and feel sorry for him

[chilly pivot]

i like ppl who say "dmg isnt that important" when u play 3s with them and they suck on dmg.. is just all bad players saying this or whats the deal

[rancid granite]

i've never once heard anybody ever say dmg isnt that important

[chilly pivot]

Its wierd right? Its so important in this expantion, ppl just overanalyze all the time

[rancid granite]

it's literally the fundamental of pvp

ground zero lol

[chilly pivot]

Hahaha mm

[green wharf]

maybe you said in a awkward way, they they though it was sexually doing him, i know some succubus that i would smash

[exotic forge]

It's the wording.

And yes, yes we do.

[fallen estuary]

oh i use the goo goo gaa gaa stat tracker

[exotic forge]

Forget what it's called, what is that abomination called haste

So slow they're probably living in the past expansion still

[dusky finch]

any R1 warriors in here

[rancid granite]

that person must have like 45% vers if haste is that low lol

[exotic forge]

Vers doesn't matter if haste is that low imo

[hasty pulsar]

are you guys using crafted piecs over conquest vendor pieces or wat

[rancid granite]

you mix it

get 20-30% vers, and crafted is more stats less vers

[visual plover]

i have a question regarding this

i have crafted wep and conq everything else

fury

i should craft rings but what embell

[rancid granite]

most still go lens

murlok.io great website for you both

[visual plover]

i find inconsistent results

[urban skiff]

that means you can't make mistakes, pick what you like and believe in

Either look at what people with your same statspread and build use, or go from top to bottom and look at #1 then #2 then #3 and see if they're more consistent than the overall top50

[visual plover]

by what i can tell im supposed to be crafting 2 rings and using the gem embellishment

[urban skiff]

If you're on EU and don't care about the pve ilvl i can craft them for free

I like double lens myself, there's some nice symmetry with two vers/mastery rings with two lens

[visual plover]

ill do that i already got 1 ring

but im using the wep embellishment

[spice hornet]

wheres @Galachad

[fierce elm]

He left iirc

[fallen solar]

Yo do they ever bring the wow shop to classic?

[jovial torrent]

@visual plover u should be able to pick up a quest for earning 2500 conquest that gives u 2x wep tokens

u can buy a free wep with that then use the 2 crafted rings/neck

the quest is in the room where the vendors are

[urban skiff]

Cold feet and cold colon. Didn't appreciate offers to help warm him up.

[urban skiff]

No. Quest was removed. It's an achievement now

[jovial torrent]

true, did the retroactivly give the token to ppl who did the quest

if he has crafted wep he already alteast had a decent chunk of conq

[zinc coral]

how do i survive as arms in ss

[fierce elm]

Defensive stance

Hitting IP

Hitting Victory Rush

using defensives

[zinc coral]

idk im doing that but i cant survive anything literally the hardest spec ive ever played kekw

[rancid granite]

kill them before they kill you

[fierce elm]

Also that

do more dam

[urban skiff]

They removed the quest before the cap was high enough. So everyone is on equal footing

[fickle forge]

Be colossus and never die

[rancid granite]

barbarian talent has been my new best friend

hop away and make them chase you and just hop right back

it doesnt actually do anything but it makes me feel cool as hell

[fickle forge]

Wait until @fierce elm tells you that's a normal talent for outlaw

[fierce elm]

Actually, we get two stacks of that talent

[fickle forge]

I've remastered colossus btw @fierce elm

So get your ele up

[fierce elm]

stop

We have like 70 more games before that

[fickle forge]

James has rerolled btw

He's ele now

[fierce elm]

We still have 70 more games

but yall never online

[fickle forge]

Ye you right

Next time we play it's outlaw+ele though

[fierce elm]

So in a month?

Outlaw ele is going to be better than outlaw fire

[fickle forge]

For sure

Fire is kinda garbanzo

[fierce elm]

Its incredibly garbage

can probs be ran with assa due to assa damage output

but with Outlaw is garbage

[fickle forge]

I LFG'd a frost mage on my warr, and it was infinitely better

[azure geyser]

I should be crafting neck and both rings or?

[jovial torrent]

yeh, u can only have 2 embelishments across all your gear, its cus the game gives u a free 9 of the crafting tokens

and accesories are 3 ea

u can use all rank 1 materials doesnt matter, make sure to get the right stats heraldry

[azure geyser]

Can I have 2 of the same embellishment?

[fickle forge]

Yes