pvp

[green wharf]

you will be less wet paper now

[boreal veldt]

some slayers might come over for a bit just to taste the extra def

i think we might see a surge of dh/ww though

[green wharf]

frost buff is nice

might try one later

didnt like unholy playstyle much

[fallen estuary]

Walks out of demolish

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/agony-wail-sadness-pooch-cry-gif-14235345

[rancid granite]

a whole 2 ft away nonetheless

[fallen solar]

I’ve been colossus since I made this warrior. Now I’m definitely staying it

More tanky. Yes

[green wharf]

i bet slayer will have more survival anyway

[fallen solar]

Tis but specs of dust after that

Whilst having 200k deeps wounds and rends ticking on them

I’m too much mastery tho. I need more haste

[urban skiff]

I won't even feel this!

I think this is it. Colossus overtakes slayer for arms warriors. Slayer will be the comfort choice while colossus had bigger skill ceiling but requires active play

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[urban skiff]

Nice patch. Not a super fan of them nerfing enh but I'll just have to hit my goal before hotfix

[green wharf]

blizzard right now ^

[urban skiff]

Prot war still got buffed however

So I'm all for that

Huh. Ww monk breaks with this hotfix. Or becomes broken.

Nice to see they lose their stupid big dodge chance

[green wharf]

they nerfed the garbo spec though

[urban skiff]

Bdk? Unfortunately it was easy to counter so this just means they remove free rating spec.

[green wharf]

al prot go thane

all the homies

all the chads

[green wharf]

i meant they buffed*

[urban skiff]

I like colossus prot. I pretend I have gladiator stance

[boreal veldt]

since the beginning

we big

we bonk

[green wharf]

demolish is such a goober skill

you have to hit, and pray that it crits

[boreal veldt]

not to mention it's been broken and poorly designed since launch lmfao

basically a meme

my buddy is a brew monk and we were able to constantly recreate a disconnect sequence if he dodged all 3 demo hits

[green wharf]

its funny cause its 3 hits right

mor than once, i crit in the first two

just for the third be a piss

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

like 2kk for each, and the big hit to also hit 2kk

when it can go for 6kk

[green wharf]

you can report that bug, if its easily recreated like that

they might fix it

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

i saw once a warrior having a DC after demolish in a blitz

i think it might have being that

or similar

[boreal veldt]

i got leap ready to go incase i run into that situation or voker where they freeze themselves in time and turn gold w/e that's called

[green wharf]

i think evokers have reincarnate as well right?

i killed one fucker and they came right back

shit ass class

[calm pasture]

What I don't like about Colossus is that it makes you take Execute off your bar because Slam is straight better lol

[boreal veldt]

here use this
#showtooltip Execute
/cast Slam

it looks better

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

that made giggle for a while

anywho, thank god they didnt buff frost mages

changes dont affect pvp

[urban skiff]

Anyone else find it weird no feral streamers are using the tiger's fury trick to break roots?

[ruby temple]

No need to. Since they're spamming cyclones so much the roots are just gonna get removed anyways

[green wharf]

Why i would watch these fuckers

[urban skiff]

because snupy is cute and wholesome

[fierce elm]

got a healer for that

[urban skiff]

i mean it's literally just a cancelaura catform tiger's fury macro

whenever you tiger's fury it'll also unshift and immediately take you back into form

[fierce elm]

dispel me nerd

[urban skiff]

I'll dispel your illusions

ILLUSION! WHAT ARE YOU HIDING

[fierce elm]

Blitz?

[urban skiff]

Shaman wholesome. equal split between both hero talent trees while everything else is like 800 rating gap between popular and unpopular

yea

[fierce elm]

Figured lmao

Blitz inflation is WILD

[urban skiff]

lmao

[fierce elm]

God still gotta level my warrior to 80 and gear it

[urban skiff]

rank 3 enh

[fierce elm]

I got so much shit to do MAN

Gotta get aotc, 1800 warr, 2400 ret, do rogue stuff because its fun

[urban skiff]

we gonna play prot pal prot war 2v2?

[urban skiff]

my war sitting on more than enough resources for full set of gear

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm @rancid granite @green wharf @boreal veldt I've meemed so much with SMF thane. Kind of contemplating just going with it since conq is uncapped

worse that'll happen is i have to gear more

[green wharf]

i mean, might as well try and see it

i doubt anyone did it

who knows how the interaction will be

[urban skiff]

I mean I'd go all haste too

just discount outlaw rogue and just slam out infinite thunderclaps

[fierce elm]

Send it nerd

[green wharf]

thane getting 50% icnrease on lightining strikes too

going full haste and the haste talent

[urban skiff]

yeah it's gonna be ridiculous

[green wharf]

you might be doing some crazy procs there

or can be uber crap

who knows

[green wharf]

put the haste increase in the weapons too

go full yolo

[urban skiff]

frenzied enrage instead of powerful

as long as i'm not hitting 1 sec gcd

full send on full stupid

and mog to 2h weapons just for the extra stupid

will be animation locked

[green wharf]

cant mog oneh to 2h i think

maybe you can witht he artifact

[urban skiff]

YOU CAN WITH ARTIFACT

😄

I mean it cannot be harder than enh so I think I'm good

[fierce elm]

Knowing Zercher its probably this

[urban skiff]

I mean, I'm not competent enough to notice the difference

too stupid to fail

Or too smart to succeed

tbh i never realized thane was this much fun

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

wonder why the top BGB prot wars don't play spear

seems like a pretty big deal to keep people zoned?

[green wharf]

for what?

it doesnt last enough to be worthy

and you can use the nodes for better talents

[urban skiff]

like what?

I can get +25% crit dam and a zone ability or i can get (checking notes) 3% leech?

[green wharf]

wild strikes

[urban skiff]

But I have that?

I guess maybe a case could be made for getting endurance training for extra hp

[green wharf]

cursed

abolutely need endurance training

[urban skiff]

what for?

[green wharf]

and seismic reverberation

if you are thane

[green wharf]

10% stamina, and fear, sap and other shit is reduced for 10%

[urban skiff]

Those are nice to have

fear/sap is so little time i spend in that

[green wharf]

spear i shit man, wasting 3 node there

[green wharf]

fear, sap and incapacitated

[urban skiff]

they break on damage

[green wharf]

and 10% stamina, you just live more

[urban skiff]

Ain't nobody rolling that much cc on a prot in blitz

[green wharf]

i mean, if you dont get that, i would still get other nodes anyway

[urban skiff]

I still prefer troar just for the extra group damage

but i don't see how spear is inferior to +10% stamina

people who complain about accidentally buying wrong gear have themselves to blame it seems

[green wharf]

more hp > lame lance

unless you are playing colossus, to try to root someone and land a demolish

[urban skiff]

ok but thane can crit too

huh

never would have happened with 10% more stamina

[green wharf]

you dont need the extra crit

and it last too little to matter

[urban skiff]

6 seconds is same as ursol's vortex

no?

@fierce elm bench day today

60% chance i hit a new PR again

3rd week in a row

did they mess up shield charge? I feel like it used to hit like a train and now it just hits moderately hard

or maybe it's because I swapped to thane and i used to cast it so it lined up with final demolish hit?

[copper fox]

I have 5 athletes competing today… I’m
Tryna bench also but I gotta coach

[rancid granite]

wdym I thought you've been going with it this whole time lmao

[urban skiff]

this is how i build SMF thane so far

[rancid granite]

I have no idea what a single shaman talent is but I dig the background art

but ya conq uncapped means go for it lol

[wheat jay]

too much magic not enough muscle

sorry zercher

case dismissed

[urban skiff]

what?

i use zero magic

[wheat jay]

its even worse

you ASK for magic

[urban skiff]

I use stormstrike which is just slapping them with air punches

anything magical is incidental and not on purpose

[wheat jay]

MAGIC WOLVES

[urban skiff]

they're proc

[wheat jay]

magic

[urban skiff]

meatballs are snaccs

[wheat jay]

leave the verdict to the judge

@elfin surge

[rancid granite]

googled it

Chad magic lol

[dense herald]

Shamans r L class

Thrall cheated in the duel against garrosh

Using magic

Garrosh was the best warrior ever

[green wharf]

shamans are chad, with the exception of thrall

blizz cut his balls a long time ago

He used to be dual class, very badass

but he painted his armor blue, and remove the chestpiece, like a fool

good look when you get stabbed in the chest

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm bench max up 0.5 kg again. 3rd week in a row it's going up.

And I'm 2kg bw down because I've been I'll since last friday

Would have done 8th rep 120 if I had more energy stored in muscles

[urban skiff]

Not all shamans

Also duel me

[rancid granite]

you spelled varian wrong

[green wharf]

Varian lost to Garrosh in a fair duel, the one he won he was using a wild god cheat buff

but its wrong, cuz his Dad, grom, was the best warrior ever

one shot Manoroth two times, and killed cenarius alone

[rancid granite]

i need a new youtube video of warrior lore

[green wharf]

look at this shit, peak warrior

impossible to top that

[fierce elm]

fucking nerds

Also wasnt the best warrior ever the dude who attacked sargeras

[dense herald]

The best warrior is swifty

[fierce elm]

Broxigar

[green wharf]

i mean, thats prob the case yeah

but he doesnt have a better artwork

he had quantity, Grom had quality

[rancid granite]

i read a huge writeup how varian was best king ever but i forgot every piece of detail

[green wharf]

Broxxigar killed so many demons he made a "mountain" of corpses to be on top of it

big enough to get Sargeras attention

and wounded him, but it was a lil cut

[kind sentinel]

Still madge that we did not get Broxigars Axe of Cenarius for our legion class hall weapon

[rancid granite]

so far the real best warrior is me, the Champion of Azeroth

[green wharf]

cowards is what they are

"we didnt want to use a nature base weapon for warriors"

make up a shit shadow sword

[fierce elm]

Shoulda been Gromd axe

Tbf a lot of class halls didnt get a good weapon

Outside of like Spriest, Enhancement, ret

[green wharf]

Grom axe isnt as magical as other artifacts

and i would throw up seeing other race using it

as drop at least less people are eager to farm it

always makes me laugh seeing draeneis using doomhammer, when the weapon genocide their race and made a road of their bones

[hardy oyster]

bro where is this picture?

[fierce elm]

Its a warrior

Fuck we need magic for

[green wharf]

to kill mages with their magic

[green wharf]

what you mean? its an official artwork release ages ago

[fierce elm]

slap face

[hardy oyster]

damn ive never seen it. its hot af

[green wharf]

when warcraft was hot

[wheat jay]

It was a cool sword tho

If you read the lore they made for it

[green wharf]

it was ugly as fuck, and the lore was lame

[urban skiff]

yo what's your bgb rating?

[kind sentinel]

3057

[green wharf]

like it was the last thing they made, and they had to come up with something

[urban skiff]

with colossus or slayer?

[kind sentinel]

Mainly slayer

I only play col on offense flag maps + kotmogu

[urban skiff]

lmao this lobby

let's goooooo

[kind sentinel]

I also like Col on silvershard mines, but objectively slayer is just better

[wheat jay]

Wack take

[urban skiff]

how many more rounds won to hit 1800

[exotic forge]

Broxigar. Saurfang's brother. Leapt through the portal and landed on Argus, killed shit ton of demons, Sargeras was like "He's a real deal.", casually wounded Sargeras on the leg.

[urban skiff]

fuck I'm going to fail this

is this enough???

AAAAAAA

[lavish quest]

Rut roh

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm two goals one day

[fierce elm]

yoooooo

[green wharf]

but based

[urban skiff]

and my mmr went up not down from going 3-3

so idk if that means queue again or not

[rancid granite]

always q next

[fierce elm]

GAMEEER

[fierce elm]

I mean jusy keep queueing lmao

[urban skiff]

maybe it's time to try stormbringerstorm or elemental totemic

instead of my weird mashup

wasn't even a great lobby for me 😦

If someone twisted your arm and forced you to play with SMF afro, what would you do with stats?

it's either standard fury stats with haste to taste so I can salvage it, or full haste where i'll have to salvage via arms or prot until i farm new conq

[green wharf]

go full haste yolo and verst

[urban skiff]

crafted for 50/50 or full send on base gear in compatible slots?

compatible meaning there's a vers/haste piece available

[rancid granite]

find balance and never full haste cause it looks cooler

[urban skiff]

oooh

rate my lobby

[kind sentinel]

So ready for MH wilds to be here already

[lavish quest]

First MH game, I started yesterday

lol

[kind sentinel]

Enjoy the hek out of it, its a good one

[urban skiff]

fuck yeah me too

[urban skiff]

gunlance is the only weapon

[lavish quest]

Nah, you don't know me

Big sword 😈

[urban skiff]

gunlance is big sword + bullshido

are you playing world or rise?

@fierce elm 1-5 lost 70 mmr and my mmr just got under my CR

it's over

was even a good lobby for me and I still failed

[fierce elm]

LMAO rolled

[lavish quest]

Sounds like a gun on a pointy stick

Doesn't sound like a sword

[vagrant tangle]

hey guys, is the vers soft cap still @ 30%?

[fierce elm]

ignore caps

[urban skiff]

it's 21000 rating

or is it 19800?

ugh, stop making me look things up

My dumbass math says Vers DR should be starting at around 25%

but it might not

[vagrant tangle]

Alright then I should be fine with 29.99 🫠

[wise cargo]

Yup it’s 30%

[urban skiff]

rate lobby

that spriest is either a sleeper agent or going 0-6

complete newbie spriest. I feel really bad now

[hasty pulsar]

crush them into the ground

no mercy

[urban skiff]

a shadowpriest is just another warrior brother who has not rerolled yet

I will make him see the light, whether he wants to or not

HE WILL BE ILLUMINATED

[vagrant tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[urban skiff]

someone confirm, do we have separate ratings for BGB across specs or shared between specs?

a stomp is about to happen and the only question is whether I'm the one about to get hit with a 0-6 or someone else is

[vagrant tangle]

separate rating for sure, unsure about mmr

[urban skiff]

i was right. So stomp the priest left after 3 rounds

Wish he hadn't lost two of them with me first

[urban skiff]

how is there only 2800 enh shamans in bgb but twice as many in shuffle?

[supple wagon]

How many mastery and haste for fury bis pvp gear ?

[urban skiff]

haste to taste, mastery for the restery

[hasty pulsar]

anyone know why my reflex addon is not calculating so shuffle round losses correctly? any help appreciated

says ive never lost a round

[urban skiff]

lovely shuffle

[vagrant tangle]

would you say the same is true for arms as well or no?

genuinely asking

[urban skiff]

arms is in a weird spot right now where some people swear by crit and others haste to taste -> mastery

[vagrant tangle]

crit eh

https://i.imgur.com/XNgrUnj.png

this works fine for me so far

[boreal veldt]

i'd only run crit into colossus arms cause they get a natural value out of it

[vagrant tangle]

so glad colossus is getting attention

really wanted to spec into it at the start of the season but it was notably subpar

[urban skiff]

another stomp incoming 😦

yeap!

bdk

[fierce elm]

get fucked

[exotic forge]

Sucks that in these situations they don't give you a tie

[urban skiff]

Lost 31 rating because nobody else knew how to fight a bdk

Yuck

[hasty pulsar]

its ok theyre basically getting buffed on tuesday

[urban skiff]

Nah, their weird oneshot is getting nerfed, right?

I don't care if they can deal dam in a legit way

[hasty pulsar]

Death Strike damage reduced by 35% in PvP combat. this is their nerf

but this is their buffs

i am not sure if bdk plays deathbringer in pvp

i assume they do though

[fierce elm]

Deathstrike was the big deal

You just shut down their stacking snd win

[hasty pulsar]

oh so it is actually a nerf overall for bdk on tuesday then?

[rancid granite]

dont you just not fight it tho?

[urban skiff]

Nobody escape a bdk

[rancid granite]

everytime ive faced a tank i just pretend it doesnt exist

works the majority of the time

[fierce elm]

you just track bdk stacks

CC on it or before and let them fall lff

Then they cant do shit except heal themselves

[hasty pulsar]

real warr dont ever play disarm

true or false?

[fierce elm]

false

[hasty pulsar]

that waht I heard a streamer say tho

[fierce elm]

yeah but every streamer is dumb

[urban skiff]

yea but bdk literally has one job: put people where they want

It's not about ignoring their damage. It's about getting chain slowed/gripped while his caster freecasts

[rancid granite]

oh yeah its definitely annoying lol

[urban skiff]

then tack on the dk randomly (not randomly, just nobody made weakauras that track the stuff for this yet) blowing someone up with 3m death strike spams

[cinder thorn]

I find blood dks most disgusting

Walking bag of worms basically, absolute filth

[urban skiff]

that sounds metal as fuck

When I DM next in D&D I want a surprise monster of the week to be a mimic, but really it's a billion worm parasites wearing the skin of a dead mimic

and when they kill the mimic.. Worm flood

[lyric violet]

Yo guys i won my irl pvp duel last night

[urban skiff]

what did you get from it?

[lyric violet]

Brain damage mostly

[urban skiff]

pretty cool brah

[lyric violet]

Arms war irl

[spice hornet]

Is an fighter more of an arms warr or a fury warr

[wheat jay]

ww monk

[rancid granite]

id assume arms cause he probably won thru skill and technique and not blind rage

right backbreaker?

gg tho

[lyric violet]

nah i fillled my rage bar and than unleashed it on his head ayo

Looks like some deep wounds possible rend idk

Nah honestly it was a good fight feel bad he was a nice guy

[cinder thorn]

Would be funny if your opponent is here and seeing this 🤣

[cosmic vapor]

anyone know when s1 tww pvp season ends?

wanna gauge how hard i gotta push rating/how soon

[sharp meteor]

Probably like 3 months.

[cosmic vapor]

thx bruh much appreciated

[urban skiff]

sooner

[fierce elm]

the sooner you do the faster you can unsub

[urban skiff]

Why not just play because it's fun?

[cosmic vapor]

im unsubbed atm cuz holidays, but will push after

[urban skiff]

pushing for a specific rating feels like it's bordering on FOMO

[urban skiff]

ah very fair then

[cosmic vapor]

wdym the game is fomo 🙂

thx thoooooo

[urban skiff]

so i had an idea

not only am i going full pants-on-head-dumb with fury

i'm going to bring it over into prot as well

[fierce elm]

you need therapy

[cinder thorn]

anyone have an addont that shows u clearly where your target is in a 40 man melee

I find it difficult to see if my target has moved a little and in which direction where there is so much lights and flashing and shit on screen

[worthy fern]

I feel like there are ways to highlight target

The actual character

Maybe even in base settings

[urban skiff]

I can't remember what it's called, but there's one that gives you a fucking gigantic crosshair on your target

https://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info24779-weizPVP.html

This the one

[cinder thorn]

thx man

[urban skiff]

if people watch you play, prepare to answer a lot of "WTF" statements

[stark agate]

Colossus Cope

I didn't realize piercing howl was up lol

[urban skiff]

how low vers is ok for fury?

[stark agate]

10% + Death Wish

[exotic forge]

saw the 2.1m hit but what killed em?

[stark agate]

2.1 Colossus Slam and 2.1 MS crit

[lyric violet]

what combat number addon is that

[stark agate]

Nameplate Scrolling Combat Text

[urban skiff]

I DID THE STUPID THING

RATE MY HASTE

[fallen estuary]

does ascension stack?

the weapon enchant

[lavish quest]

Low

[cinder thorn]

thats with 3 greens and 4 warmode gear which is ungemmed and unenchanted

[rancid granite]

you stomped THE BIEBS

didnt even know he played thats cool

[cinder thorn]

ye he got an autograph from me

[rancid granite]

lol

[cinder thorn]

inscribed it on his wings, with my sword

[dense herald]

gnome ewww

[stark agate]

I rerolled from human to see what all the fuss was about lol. But I'm going back Human after the 72 hour CD because I don't vibe with it.

Root escape will be missed though, it really is op

[urban skiff]

@rancid granite i fucking forgot to talent into SMF when testing

[cinder thorn]

do u know how to lower the crosshair so it always at the bottom of enemy character because when you resize it moves up for some reason

[rancid granite]

rofl thats a bad sign

i got geared up and tons of haste for slayer arms but now i just feel like im fury

[urban skiff]

57% haste permanently without procs though

[exotic forge]

[rancid granite]

bathe your hands in warm water before and after you game

@boreal veldt whats the plan i dont like slayer how should i gear this col build up

[urban skiff]

uh

I'm having a bit of an identity crisis

[rancid granite]

max STR warrior chad

[boreal veldt]

tough question because i enjoy high damage low haste

[rancid granite]

yeah what'd you do, use crit + vers missives, and like master+vers necklace or what

[boreal veldt]

https://murlok.io/character/us/nerzhul/kionshi/pvp

[rancid granite]

maybe ill just do 20% crit and 15 haste 15 mastery for some balance though

[boreal veldt]

you can run lower mastery with high enough vers

[rancid granite]

basically what you have -a bit of master +a bit of haste

interesting 👀

[boreal veldt]

it's pretty cursed

[rancid granite]

it's got personality

something like this is just so appeasing to the eye though

[boreal veldt]

that looks so nice

so clean

[rancid granite]

add in 2 gems and it's going to ruin it though

[boreal veldt]

just think about tuesday

5% DMG

5% DEF

5% BIG

the holy trinity

[rancid granite]

ill minmax til i hit 17/17/17/20 and be set

[urban skiff]

starting to realize why the thane tree is so weird

it feels like it should emphasize either RB or BT but it doesn't

and then it adds another rotational ability on top

something fucky is going on

[green wharf]

its the simple minded talent on?

[urban skiff]

yea

a lot of the time I'm not feeling the damage

and I'm dying really really really absurdly fast

then some games I'm just completely melting them for no reason?

I think skirmish is a bad place to be testing it

[green wharf]

yeah, seems on point for warriors

[urban skiff]

I really don't understand why warrior is dying so fast but my sham I can just facetank without selfheals or cds?

sure vers is only 22%, but I'm sure my sham is lower, not higher

[green wharf]

if you are doing 2x without a healer

this will happen all the time

war needs one

[urban skiff]

but not on my shaman

and it's not like shaman has more armor

[boreal veldt]

i only started feeling relatively tanky after i hit 27%

[green wharf]

shamans have healing totem

the one that absorb damage

[urban skiff]

you must have mistaken me for someone else

[green wharf]

the heal shield

[urban skiff]

I don't do totem

[green wharf]

totemic

[urban skiff]

Totemic absorbs 300k

[green wharf]

sham also have the healing proc

what war have

arms have fuck all

fury ahve bloodthirsty

[urban skiff]

I'm talking about the kind of damage I'm taking when I'm not doing anything

for some reason my shaman tanks hits in the first stun with zero effort that my warrior melts to

[boreal veldt]

we sit d stance

[urban skiff]

granted I've only been testiing for like 30 minutes

[zinc tartan]

i just played warrior and nahh with this many utilities

its pretty hard class

stop it

i got a ret

ret is near DH in buttons

[jovial torrent]

yeh my ret action bar is like 2/3 full compared to my war full bars

[zinc tartan]

besides the utilities 123 for ur mates

u literrally press 3 buttons i think on ret

ashe, wrath, verdict

[urban skiff]

Idk if I'm confident enough right now in SMF Thane to take it into shuffle

[jovial torrent]

eh its a few more but u cant really make that big of a mistake other than pressing your builders at 5 holy power

[zinc tartan]

with warrior u have so much in the rotation

[jovial torrent]

paladins cd's just make sense, they line up perfectly and dont have some stupid built in cd reduction that makes them come up at odd times

[green wharf]

Ret is the proof wow is dead as a RPG

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-cat-asks-cute-cat-gif-14097968

[wheat jay]

Survi rotation is fun

[green wharf]

you know, in rpgs, a class with self heal/magic, doesnt deal as much damage as a class purely focused on dealing damage

[jovial torrent]

honestly i think more classes should play a bit closer to ret imo, i hate cooldown desyncing, either top them desyncing or delete some cd's from the game

[green wharf]

but in wow, for the metters, Ret and WAr should deal the same dps

[urban skiff]

what even is the survival rotation

what abilities do I end up using most often or in combo?

[green wharf]

while ret retain shit like bubble, lay on hands and other shit

[stark agate]

Ret is probably the easiest spec imo

[wheat jay]

You want tip of the spear buff for big abilities, you get one stack per kill command, coordinated assault gives 3, flanking strike gives 2

Each ability consumes one

You bomb, bomb, butchery, explosive shot, raptor strike, etc

Its a fucking mess

[zinc tartan]

warrior has so much dimension to it

intervene etc

spell reflect

[jovial torrent]

spell reflect feels so lame now with the 20 procs all shooting off at the same time

[idle falcon]

which is stronger rn

arms or fury

[wheat jay]

Yes

[jovial torrent]

fury seems to be slightly better

atleast thats all i see around 2100 in shuffle

[zinc tartan]

i wanna intervene trap

do you guys pay attention to mark for death stacks at 3x to execute?

[jovial torrent]

on my mw i want you to haha

[zinc tartan]

or is this not important

[jovial torrent]

diamond ice is so silly

pet stun into diamond ice trap, no counter

[zinc tartan]

i dont know mw mechanics yet

i do have ww at 1800

[jovial torrent]

u need to keep alot of buffs/debuffs rolling

need to keep up, healing orb and bonus dmg orb on enemy, if you dont have enveloping mist and renewing mist on your target u wont heal much

[zinc tartan]

feels like no good waiting for Mark for death to get to 3 stacks and execute

cause u need to get rotations in in the meanwhile

[jovial torrent]

i get kicked alot mroe on mw than on hpal since hpal u hard cast maybe 5-10% of the time, monk hard cast most of the game since ur channeling soothing mist to make ur other spells instant

[zinc tartan]

im pro juker when i get the class rotation down

and eu 4ms ofc

what work with juking is u kinda want to engage and challenge the target

[copper fox]

This is not an indication of spec strength lol

[nimble osprey]

is there a point to the mmv other than making it easier to wintrade

[copper fox]

Especially considering arms just cleaves melee better than fury

[jovial torrent]

i feel like fury is more tanky overall, but arms has better burst def cd

and shuffle games ppl just kind of randomly die so being fury feels safer

[zinc tartan]

cleave dmg dominates shuffle

[jovial torrent]

i just cant decide which char to push hopfully 2400 in blitz on, and which game to play in queue

[nimble osprey]

any of them it's 100% rng

[zinc tartan]

if u cant kill spell cleave at 2min mark in shuffle its over

[nimble osprey]

who even gives a fuck

[zinc tartan]

classes with much utility is gud for blitz idk

[rancid granite]

it's such a nice change to be dps but still be a lovely support to your pals lol

[copper fox]

Cleave damage does not dominate in shuffle from a warrior standpoint

Which is why fury > arms

[zinc tartan]

i begin to love war

amazing class

[green wharf]

fury thane cleave is better than arms

dont @ me

[fallen solar]

What is the best cleave class anyways

Melee I mean

DH I guess

Ret is good too

[jovial torrent]

i win one match now this

[zinc tartan]

Shadow play in shuffle

If u cant kill these guys under 2 min mark there is no healing possible

[wheat jay]

No lol

Maybe survi, since everything it does is aoe

Arms kinda, with sweeping strikes

[deep condor]

Venrukis not a tier list tier list had him leaning towards towards nerfing arms? Like what?

[sharp meteor]

That's odd.

[patent forum]

@deep condor he doesn’t say that at all

[grim aspen]

Hey guys how do you play against hunter/priest as fury?

im currently at 1900 at i cant deal with hunter with this comp

its rediclious

[lavish quest]

He did if you consider not buffing it to be nerfing it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[empty salmon]

Does anyone happen to have any tips for all ranged lobbies? I feel like I'm getting so many of them around 2100 cr in shuffle, healers tell me to los the enemy more or don't run in but then I do no dam and we have no pressure, I have no idea how to approach these lobbies at this point

[patent forum]

Hit closest

[empty salmon]

is lossing ever worth it?

[sharp meteor]

If you got no dam and they got giga dam and/or are in the open or w/e sure

warr can be somewhat reliant on teammates to posture forward

if ur having to push in vs 3 people

while team stands 30 yards back

always gonna lose that

[empty salmon]

alright, that makes sense, thanks

[deep condor]

Watch it again, he goes to put it in the nerf row and then chat talks him out of it basically lol

[robust carbon]

Guys, i know this may have been asked a thousand times, but i compared people o murlok, and saw here in the chat couple of answers

As arms, do we aim for a certain point with haste?

15 maybe 20?

[urban skiff]

14 fucking years and i finally get this

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[urban skiff]

I mean yes

but also it was bugged forlike 10 years

[green wharf]

cant say much shit since i completed like 3 months ago

[urban skiff]

and then there was no incentives for people to build siege engines

AND THEN you also have to land the killing blow

I already gave up on the SMF thane dream

[green wharf]

coward

why though

plus, odyn fury sucks in pvp

[urban skiff]

I wasn't doing like anything

at all

Sure I was doing it fast

But every press did nothing?

hard to explain

[green wharf]

wait for the 50% lightining strikes buff

[urban skiff]

Could maybe be alleviated with powerful enrage over frenzied

yea I'm just going to reforge all my gear until friday

then maybe try again

I'm going to keep some haste so I can still prot effiiciently

crafting jewelry and recrafting got so expensive i decided it's cheaper to level jewelcrafting

[green wharf]

i should level blacksmith too

buyt i dont want tow aste money

[wooden shard]

Don’t level blacksmithing up

You’ll spend so much more money trying to get points than to just get someone to craft weapons for you

[green wharf]

yeah i do that, the problem is recrafting

[urban skiff]

bad advice tbh

If the goal is pvp and you're going to craft for more than a couple alts then the cost of levelling bs is like 10k - 20k to hit profession level 50 where you can make all the pvp recipes

nothing else matters because you don't care about the pve ilvl

[fierce elm]

What if they find it fun

Also @urban skiff math fucking BLOWS

Started counting and using triangles as a tool in my electrician course

this shit wild

There arent numbers anymore just LETTERS

Thank fuck we get a cheat sheet for exams

[urban skiff]

wait until you get to the imaginary numbers

part of becoming a marine engineer is learning literally everything about electricity

[fierce elm]

Like, this is an entry level course that doesnt require high engineering

Or math

But we are doing fucking Uni courses

[urban skiff]

once you get to 3 phase electricity and start doing vectors we're talking pure nonsense that somehow makes sense

[fierce elm]

Was hesitant to continue to study for engineering because of the math but we are literally doing MATH LIKE THAT ALREADY

Yeah thats where we are at lmao

The entire thing is just ”dont question this”

[urban skiff]

are you doing i or j for imaginary part?

always wondered what other countries do

[fierce elm]

I

not J

[urban skiff]

and please don't tell me you're danish because then disappointment

[fierce elm]

Naa lmao

I had a huge panic because I thought I had to memorize each formula

But that was short lived because they said we get a cheat sheet for tests

Im like thank fuck

I aint tryna learn 8 vectors mak

[urban skiff]

we were made to use j (not capital J) because "i" is used for amps in ohm formulas

[fierce elm]

Yeah they are confusing it all

Because we use I for both

[urban skiff]

Eh, I ended up making an excel sheet that calculated all the stuff for me

[fierce elm]

Right now we are mostly calculating transformers etc

but also Spoles and engines

[urban skiff]

that's the kind of stuff i made excel for

it was so much easier to make a magic box where I put stuff in and get stuff out

[fierce elm]

We quickly went from calculating simple lamps to fucking three phase

Yeah, we cant do that on the test

but all we gotta understand is what the letters mean

But man FUCK ME

I just wanna play with robots man lmao

[urban skiff]

bro we had to calculate how much passing by greenland would affect the battery capacity and therefor how much efficiency we lost on a genset with a specific type of fault

[fierce elm]

Like no wonder they put this course early

[urban skiff]

so essentially "ship get cold sail slower? also here's a list of all the lamps on board. How many do we turn off to recover 1%?"

[fierce elm]

lmao

Yeah we dont have that yet

Mostly calculating loss and effect so far

[urban skiff]

Man you're going to see a whole new world when you understand this stuff, I'm so excited for you

Did you learn the easy way to remember OHM's law?

I had one teacher call it the "URINE LAW" one time and now it's unforgettable

[fierce elm]

Yeah we did all of Ohms law last course

But just the basic stuff

Assuming everything is ideal and no loss occurs

Did ask the teacher if they ever manually calculate this anymore and she said no, that made me chuckle

[urban skiff]

for our first semester they made us calculate all the 3 phase vectors using trigonometry

[fierce elm]

But this course is absolutely the worst one out of the like 12 im taking

Yeah this is the 2nd course we have LMAO

1st course was basic ohms law and how to plug shit in and basic commands through PLC

[urban skiff]

then on 2nd semester they were like "also here's the really easy way. We tell you now that you passed. You can just do x+jy + x + jy" have at it forever

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

like it's right there on the calculator

[fierce elm]

I hate this

this is WACK

[urban skiff]

It's so basic I use it for basic pythagoras calc forever now

just add all the x and y (but imaginary y)

also in danish it's slightly less stupid because we call them complex numbers instead of imaginary

[fierce elm]

Worst part is that they usually have 2 courses before we even talk about Ohms law

but now we jump directly into it

[green wharf]

reason i run away from it to get a biology degree, and working on a history one

[fierce elm]

I figured if I can do this I can most likely do the math for an engineering degree lmao

[green wharf]

still chemistry and physics fucked me over

[fierce elm]

Like, I dont have huge issues with Math

but MAN

[green wharf]

math is amazing when it right over there, and i dont have to deal with letters on it

[fierce elm]

At least I got two more days to hammer everything in

Should be fine

Just gotta pass anyways who gives a FUCK

[urban skiff]

i mean my marine engineering degree comes with all of the electrical engineering on industrial/supply side and I'm working on district heating now

idk if it's a waste but I'm using like 2% of my degree

[urban skiff]

you know what they call a doctor who gets a D?

Doctor

[fierce elm]

Yeah lmao

[green wharf]

i just dont do well with numbers, cuz ADHD and dyslexia

[urban skiff]

found out like a few months ago i've had ADD all my life

medicine is changing my life

[fierce elm]

I got ADHD

quit medicine

Just riding the wave of whatever gets my attention next

We got one dude with dyslexia in my class and he is struggling but my dude is trying

[scarlet barn]

Playing paladin with so many flashes musst be nice then lol

[scarlet barn]

Admirable

[fierce elm]

Was looking at going into like VVS or Hydraulics

[urban skiff]

what meds did you quit?

[fierce elm]

I was only on Strattera

[urban skiff]

I was having a shit time on strattera, dick stopped working and doctor scolded me for waiting too long to give it a chance

[fierce elm]

Sweden always put kids on low doses when I got mine

Strattera worked okay

[scarlet barn]

Hey man. You make it better for ordinary folks. Be proud

[urban skiff]

swapped to elvanse / vyvanse a few days ago and immediate switch

[fierce elm]

I just quit cold turkey because docs require I call them every 6 months and I didnt want to do it

[urban skiff]

denmark starts everyone out on concerta and then we have to give strattera a chance. Only then do we get to the "ozempic level" of medicine that works

[fierce elm]

Was on the same dosage from like 15-20

We used to start on the lowest dosage of the least effective medicind

Mostly because the sides were smaller

[urban skiff]

Technically i just pay people to dig holes and talk a lot to people. It's the welders and the diggers and the engineers who are making the world a better place. I just herd cats and yell at adults to put on hardhats and safety boots and to stop smoking after accidentally digging into a gas main

[fierce elm]

I just learned to live with it and just go along for the ride honestly

But I got my diagnose when I was like 9

so yeah kek

[urban skiff]

It's ok if you're ok with it. But when you get older like me, you might find that it gets harder to recover. It's ok to go back and say you want to try again. 🙂

[fierce elm]

They also commented that I leaned heavily into like the asperger/autism spectrum

[urban skiff]

Some people need medicine to recover and get brought back on their feet. Other will need it to reach a baseline function level

You can easily be the first group

[fierce elm]

Oh absolutely, mine impacts day to day but not in like an extreme way

The worst part is the motivation aspect of getting started with something along with just having 50 different interests

[urban skiff]

My ADD didn't become unmanageable until I had to deal with having a family + manage a big boy job with lots of money and safety on the line

[fierce elm]

Yeah, GF helps out a lot so like ”mundane” tasks arent what I do in our household

[urban skiff]

elvanse gave me a button that just lets me get up and do a thing

it's absolutely wild

I no longer pick up my phone 10 times during a job to distract myself. I just keep going until I realize I haven't eaten anything or sat down in hours

also I gave haste SMF Thane a chance and it was horrible

beyond horrible

[fierce elm]

lmao yeah I just get that naturally but its NEVER what I should be doing

[urban skiff]

I was doing nothing at light speed

[fierce elm]

GF is mad supportive though, I struggle with mundane tasks that have no challenge in it, so while she might do the dishes and general cleaning I do the more ”thinking” stuff

[urban skiff]

wife her

[fierce elm]

She also gets it, so she doesnt interrupt when I just have the ADHD to do a thing for 9 hours straight

[urban skiff]

Just make sure you understand your priorities have to shift when you get kids

[fierce elm]

Oh absolutely

[urban skiff]

suddenly ADHD'ing for 9 hours becomes impossible

[fierce elm]

The thing is I lowkey kinda love kids

Wont tell my GF that

But that is a few years away

Goal is to get settled into new career, make some decent money and find myself rather secure

[urban skiff]

It's what motivated me to get diagnosed. The lack of treatment was causing massive stress. Now I can say why I need to sit down 30 minutes with just pink noise in a headset with lego in my hands

[fierce elm]

finish the things I want to do pre-kids

[urban skiff]

good plan

make sure you have no regrets over stuff you didn't get to try before kids, if kids will get in the way of doing it in the near future

[fierce elm]

Which is at minimum like 3-4 years in the future kek

[urban skiff]

I'm happy to see you're actively avoiding all the mistakes i made in my youth. You're gonna be fine

[fierce elm]

probably a little more

Gotta just get through this education

[urban skiff]

you chose a good profession

[fierce elm]

Only 1.5 years total so not bad at all, done January 2026

[urban skiff]

industrial engineering, focus on PLC, HVAC, CMS(or BMS/BAS?)

[scarlet barn]

Somebody gotta do it

[urban skiff]

My buddy worked as an electrician (mostly CMS) for a few years, got his marine engineering degree, now he's working for LEGO making around 100k dkk a month

[fierce elm]

Automation is what I am doing rn

[urban skiff]

also excellent

You can get into automation/PLC commissioning when you're done breaking your back

[fierce elm]

I have received two half-promises of work already

[urban skiff]

you can get into the wind industry with that too

[fierce elm]

One is within the food industry and grocery stores

and one is within solar panels

We are just lacking so many people in that profession here because EVERYTHING is being automated right now

[urban skiff]

I don't think I deserve the kind of money i make for what little i do

[urban skiff]

it's also currently difficult to outsource, because when you're working with PLC you have a system that has only as many vulnerabilities as the creators make

[fierce elm]

Also certificates work very strange in Sweden

like I can grab w.e certificate within like 2-3 months

[urban skiff]

what they do+

[fierce elm]

Just shows that you can work with x thing

Like for example I am not legally allowed to do house work with what I am getting now

however, I get all the base knowledge for it, just have to take a course for it

so you can jump to w.e because you get the base knowledge

Most larger companies offer these courses to their employees

Right now the hot topic is Automation and Distribution

[fierce elm]

PLC is also WACK as fuck ngl

We did basic stuff last course, then we got an in depth course in like 3 months

[fierce elm]

also this seems to be extremely common in these fields lmao

[urban skiff]

we had to do robotics as well as PLC

suddenly no more ladders and suddenly it was just regular old programming

[urban skiff]

I'm making half of what I could be making but the job is comfortable and secure, and I'm not done sorting out my ADD so I don't want to jump ship just yet

A girl I know just got a job as chief of maintenance at a large factory and I might go join her as her second in command when I'm all sorted out

[fierce elm]

we got robotics too

[urban skiff]

I can't get over how idiotproof it was

[fierce elm]

Brother is a programmer so he is gonna help me alot lmao

I also wanna learn programming languages because I find it interesting

[urban skiff]

My wife is getting a programmer degree now, really making me think about moving into IT project management

[fierce elm]

IT jobs here are dead as fuck

like wildly dead

[urban skiff]

I just really enjoy the kind of people who weld and dig and I don't think I'll enjoy programmers as people very much

[fierce elm]

Brother finished this year, he is making about 20% less than expected

Took him like 5 months to find a job

where he had to work part time for 2 months to prove himself

Then got full time employmekt

[urban skiff]

took me a year after school because of covid

[fierce elm]

that market is just oversaturated here

90% of my friends went into IT educations but now they are just stuck

Now everyone is desperate for blue-collar workers

I think they estimated that 10-15% of all the people in my field are retiring within 2-3 years

And everyone is going into Property management and similar because its whats popular, we got mad issues here

[urban skiff]

yeah

[fierce elm]

They are giving bonuses for people willing to move to work right now

[urban skiff]

probably the system is too effective at pushing people in certain directions

People getting into IT right now I recommend looking into cyber security jobs

[fierce elm]

Yeah, everyone went into basic programming and the jobs just vanished since post-covid

Now we lacking physical labor

[urban skiff]

1. cannot be outsourced
2. shits getting real on global stage
3. if you weren't a dumbohead in your youth you have an advantage over applicants who couldn't figure out how laws worked

[fierce elm]

Yeah brother is considering going back to school part time

[urban skiff]

district heat welders make fucking bank in denmark

[fierce elm]

Every blue collar work make bank here

[urban skiff]

I mean serious bank

talked to one who was upset he only made half a mill his first year

500k dkk, not euro obviously

one started out at 17, lived at home until he was 24 (to save up cash), went out and bought a farm + land for like a million cash, parted out the land and built homes, and he's made so much bank from that decision

[fierce elm]

christ

Yeah thats how it works lmao

[urban skiff]

we're talking hundres of millions and he's still welding because he just enjoys workint outdoor

[fierce elm]

That is completely fair

the market right now estimates my first year to make about 450k SEK

which is lower than DKK

but considering the average wage here is like 20k a month

[urban skiff]

yeah it's about the same here

[fierce elm]

They are just DESPERATE for people

The current moving bonus is 50k to move up north

[urban skiff]

I get there's a difference between DKK and SEK but to me it's mostly the same, maybe slightly lower numbers but relative same still

[fierce elm]

Yeah its relative

The place I have an in for right now is tied to my work at a grocery store

[urban skiff]

Looking up real quick it looks like sweden's distrct heating progress is about where Denmark was 10-15 years ago, so right now is a good time for people to get into welding pipelines if they want something with job security

[fierce elm]

our deliverer is trying to automate every packing order right now

Tbf every blue collar work is always needed

[urban skiff]

true

but some is just needed just a little more

[fierce elm]

it all depends on just going with the industry that needs it

I have so many people getting property electrician certs being out of a job right now

because most people cant afford to renovate

meanwhile distribution people up north are MAKING BANK

The ideal scenario is just jumping around to w.e part needs you right now

[urban skiff]

assuming things are like in denmark, property electricians make decent money working and make a lot of their money outside the job market by working under the table

I highly recommend getting into anything industrial if possible, it's easier to downgrade than upgrade

[urban skiff]

with my line of work I have extremely accurate forecasts on what the building industry does in Denmark and shit got shut down HARD for almost a year

now it's back but the trend is people building smaller homes on smaller properties but in a way where they can later expand

So job opportunities for property electricians might improve over the next 6 months

[urban skiff]

(I'm the primary contact point for building companies when they're building homes in this end of the country and doing district heating land development and I was smart enough to track metrics)

[fierce elm]

That is what I heard too lmao

I got told to avoid industrial as much as possible

[urban skiff]

I mean if you can get into HVAC/PLC/CMS and you can get the experience before it crashes like the IT market you can pretty much print your own payslip and put any number you want on it

[fierce elm]

Tbf I also dont know what the fuck I wanna do

I figure I end up somewhere and find out what I wanna do

[urban skiff]

You're young, try it all

[fierce elm]

Like I got 40 years until retirement minimum

I got time lmao

[urban skiff]

I've been a machinist at an iron foundry, i've been a mechanic, now i'm a marine engineer doing project management in the district heating industry

It's ok to try things, either you find your place or you learned something about yourself

[fierce elm]

All I know is that I want a fancy title that I can flex at my friends when they call me dumb

as a meme

[urban skiff]

Get into offshore wind then

[scarlet barn]

[urban skiff]

I know a guy at Vestas whose business card says "erection manager"

his job is something about erecting wind turbines so, erection master

or manager, i can't remember

[fierce elm]

lmao

Erection Master

goated

Tbf they are betting a lot on renewable energy

[urban skiff]

renewable is the future

[fierce elm]

Energy overall is a huge political question right now

its wild

[urban skiff]

Power-to-X is amazing, I helped build part of the system for methanol based shipping

Absolutely fucking terrifying to stand next to a system knowing there's 850 bar pressure

[fierce elm]

They wanna downsize the Nuclear departments as much as possible right now

Which is WACK imo, but I get it

[urban skiff]

Downsize but don't shut down nuclear, it's still a solid way to turn nuclear energy into fuels

[green wharf]

a lot of big daddy companies would lose money if countries went nuclear

[urban skiff]

the absolutely biggest problem in the world right now is energy storage, not production

If you can find a way to store electrical energy with the same density as fossil fuel you'll be a trillionaire overnight. Literally

Also electricity with energy density of fossil fuel is going to be the most terrifying thing you can imagine

[urban skiff]

I prefer breathable air and a working biosphere over big daddy companies making money tbh

[fierce elm]

arguably a really good way lmao

[green wharf]

technically speaking, nuclear energy is the cleanest

[urban skiff]

not just technically

It's the cleanest until we figure out dyson spheres

[green wharf]

it also leave less residuous for the same amount of energy created compared to others

[urban skiff]

carbon capturing technology is advancing but imho too slow

we explored carbon capture for our power plant but the cost was almost the same as a new plant, and we're just a few years away from shutting it down because of age

[fierce elm]

Never imagined electricians to be this smart NGL

you see the dirty clothes and dont expect much

[urban skiff]

most aren't

[fierce elm]

Aint no wire in 1 slot wire in 2 slot

Like how the FUCK do people pass these courses without a hint of smart lmao

[urban skiff]

they're literally just wire monkeys who were trained through aggressive workplace bullying until they got just in line enough to make it 20 years in the industry

[fierce elm]

lmao

CANT WAIT

[urban skiff]

then there's the handful of smart ones who understands the subject matter

They usually eventually become engineers, start their own business, or land consulting jobs

When I started my appreticeship as machinist we still had day drinking on the job. Truck drivers were limited to 5 beers per day

[green wharf]

i did a electrical engineering course, but didn't got the certificate/diploma, cause college, shit is hard yo

[fierce elm]

shit is hard period ngl

[urban skiff]

many of those people are still working today, so get ready to get to know a lot of personalities

[green wharf]

it like, 10 years ago, now i only know basic shit, like mend wires

make some wiring that will not blow up

[fierce elm]

Ngl Im a pretty lovable DUDE

[urban skiff]

some people hate that

😄

[fierce elm]

Fuck

Worst case I use all this knowledge to do jack shit lmao

[urban skiff]

Most people are nice, but almost all blue collar jobs has that one hateful fuck who has nothing good to say about anything and nobody can explain how they still have their job because they sure as fuck don't get to talk to the customers

[teal tundra]

why are guides recommending to not pick meat cleaver?

[urban skiff]

you'll do fine, electricians are the nerds of the blue collar world

[urban skiff]

why do you want it?

[fierce elm]

I figured, 80% in my class are nerds

[urban skiff]

it's way worse in the metal jobs

[teal tundra]

to cleave? xD

[urban skiff]

I've had to throw two people off site because they were getting into a fight and when I told them to chill they wanted to fight me together

Just put on the fucking hardhat Svend

[urban skiff]

you'll be pressing whirlwind a lot if you don't want those talents to be dead

[fierce elm]

LMAO

I also wanna brawl with hardhats on

[urban skiff]

tbh it isn't even the wildest thing

One guy accidentally cut the gas main inside the house

He was hanging around the door smoking when we arrived

One guy got thrown off site because he was wearing shorts and flipflops in -15 C

some guys really really don't like being told what to do

gym time

fuck yeah

OHP or deadlift day

can't decide

OH MY GOD IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING FREE CPU UPGRADE

[fierce elm]

HOW

[fierce elm]

EVEN MORE HOW

[fierce elm]

WHY

[fierce elm]

Sunday is the lords day, so we do deadlift

[urban skiff]

By the power of amphetamines, I might do both

[dense herald]

whut

[green wharf]

Man we talk about ADHD and stuff, A.I help so much to give a dirction and a focus

it doesn't do the work for you, but damn hell it helps, its like having a calculator to do math

[urban skiff]

AM CPUs were being held back by a Windows setting. 24H2 solves the issue and CPU uplift is between 5% and 22% depending on CPU and application.

[tacit swallow]

How far do I scroll up to read stuff about warriors?

[urban skiff]

Having someone to spar with helps me tremendously. I can get so much work done because I have all the benefits from team work without any of the draw backs (other people talking in my vicinity)

[urban skiff]

Wdym? Warrior is life. Everything is warrior talk.

[tacit swallow]

Hahaha

True

Ohms law you're speaking my language

Holy fuck you guys really bonded in here

[green wharf]

having someone to spar you mean a.i?

[calm pasture]

Maybe it's just me, but I would be mad af if I had to scroll through a 2hour off-topic convo just to e.g. look up a post I saw yesterday further up.

[urban skiff]

Yep

[urban skiff]

If we spent 2 hours talking about prot dps or answering the same question again and again you'd still have to scroll up.

I recommend using the search function.

[green wharf]

yeah, talking about the same sstuff always kinda get boring, so we go a lil offtopic

mostly is like

"whats best fury or arms"

[urban skiff]

Warrior pvp is mostly solved and every answer is somewhere in this channel. We can only repeat ourselves so many times so forgive us for indulging in something else once in a while

[urban skiff]

This tbh

[urban skiff]

That's the skyhold pvp channel. It makes me proud.

We're all brothers, and the most chill class discord. Everyone is welcome as long they stay chill too. Makes me proud

[green wharf]

except if you are an elf

i ain't no brother of elves

[urban skiff]

If they can dance they my brother

I'll be double brother to the brothers you reject. No brother shall remain unloved

[fierce elm]

its Skyhold pvp

We do be family

Have gamed with peeps here for like 5-6 years at this point so that helps

We are also fostering a community here rather than a basic knowledge channel, a lot of PvP channels are dead because they are so incredibly focused to be on-topic

PvP being a dying gamemode needs strong communities and Skyhold has always fostered this go an extent

Any questions etc does get responded to if someone has the knowledge about it

[urban skiff]

Preach.

I see it as an investment. Keeps people coming back in here at other times than just when they need a question answered. It raises likely hood that someone is around to see questions at any given time.

[fierce elm]

One of the few channels that have activity 24/7

[green wharf]

i disagree, when i see afro talking about his paladin i dont want to come back

[urban skiff]

It isn't a problem until people ignore pvp discussions to talk about how to hammer screws in a drywall

[fierce elm]

lmao its outlaw now

[urban skiff]

I kinda like it. Makes me consider specs i otherwise wouldn't. If I wrap up feral warrior rogue, pal is next on my list. Might make it spicy and go hpal!