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so im just legit guessing and hoping i kill before someone on my team dies
Swap targets on defensives
Don't greed your defensives too much
Do big numba
Win
I trap warrior when I hear warbreaker, and imagine him raging IRL
But it was the easiest shuffle I ever had
If whatever your comp is CC'ing healer a lot
Just bust into whoever has weaker defensive up
Basically, imagine if you were to hit both, which one is taking bigger d ick
But also factor who's more likely to kite you
Like if mage and a warrior both in range, sure hit the mage, but if he blinks and has all his buttons, maybe just swap and d ick down the warrior when the mage runs
Or you could ask, which one is more like @wheat jay ? Hit that one

i stg he prob some noober who hit glad 11 years ago and cant forget it
he died round 1 pressed 0 defensives
what a player
Mighta been me
Happens lmao
Play the game, watch people play the game
can post footage in #1261442398945415239
Okay wtf are you supposed to do vs dragons
That shit just flies around and casts forever and I can never catch up, but if he free casts I get dicked
Run at the other guy
Die
Hope your teammate can do something
It feels worse than a frost mage
dont waste your miniscule mobility to catch up, sometimes ya just gotta give the chase up
if its shuffle you are in luck because no shuffle healer seems to be able to heal split pressure
"What is Death?"
"It is our duty."
"What is your duty?"
"To serve the Emperor's will."
"What is the Emperor's will?"
"That we fight and die."
(Repeat.)
Yeah, only shuffle cus I’m anti social
Also, is spell reflect even worth taking vs a dragon?
Oh
?
Because I'm a chad
Spell reflect is one of our best buttons
most melees deal magic damage anyways
Oh right it does the 20% dr
there is a reason chaos brand got nerfed to 3%
Idk there’s other shit to take!
?
Like what? What beats our best button?
Fear break, Tclap, shattering, longer shockwave, idk!
The only gift blizzard ever gave us
i swear our class tree is so locked
We already have fear break
shattering has always felt cosmetic when ive played it idk
Shattering is straight trash
The aoe fear break
why would you not get aoe slow
AoE fear break better against like priests n shit
Because it might not be necessary depending on the shuffle lobby!
Idk I’m fiddling with my class talents like every other round
Spec talents I barely change
can you use disarm on everyone
I have found, the less I think, the more I win
No
Well you can
But it'll be worthless against most
Apparently don’t disarm dhs, I learned that the other day
why not
They can dispel it or some shit
Dh called me a moron in ss for disarming
XD
My bad
I used to disarm them
But then I learned bigger dam more important
Only people I'd disarm now is war, maybe DK if I want to try to deny death strikes
MM hunter too
Sub rogue
Rest, not a ton of value
Yeah I run safeguard most lobbies
Wot
Arms
Sharpen, Storm of D, Battlefield commander
That's what you should run most of the time
Always disarm mage
Safeguard is clutch into casters tho, gives me more mobility, and I can peel better!
You know what matters in shuffle?
Having the biggest D in the lobby
You're welcome
🤔
In Shuffle its about being fast and doing damage
Listen
Look at this
Not war, but the idea is the same
Why do you think I dominated?
Cus it’s a placement lobby
That
And ur bm
damage done meter
Prob forgot to summon pets
Dh slams dam, but it’s not op!
And it's BM Hunter
DH's are weak
See! It’s not just slamming!
As they should
It's slamming while not getting slammed
Min max your slamming, while minimizing their slamming
Win
That's why the others didn't do dam as well
I CC'd their CDs
Doesn’t safeguard help minimize their slamming
While they let me have pew pew fun times
Yes, but the amount it lowers their slamming is not worth how much slamming you give up for it
Here
Let me show you something
If anything you're just gonna get slammed with Safeguard anyways but with a 20% diff
Oh, warbringer, I run that sometimes as well
He bent over too much I bet
Warbringer ain't that good anymore
i just go in and hope they die
It fell off sadly
6-0 placement lobby
noice
deserved
Okay next queue session I will try to only slam
I used to get all cutesy and do the big brain plays
I just learned that shit is wasted most of the time
Safeguard protects teammate
But teammate is ass
So why protect ass teammate?
But what if teammate is a shadow priest, and a turret sp is more slam than an arms warrior
Tell him to figure it out
You got slamming to do
The best defense is an excellent offense

They can't kill my SP if they busy running from me

why did laros lose in awc then 
Buff arms!
join me in rerolling to uh
Gentlemen’s Spec
lemme see that io
Chase sunlight then
Not much of that these days

We'll take it
Would have 5-1 but mage threw a round
BM hunter 
Sorry 2616
I dunno why my grim shows up as untimed, when I have it timed but w/e
Survival is good rn though
BM better from my understanding
And I "know" how to play it 
BM better, but also you get 0 hoes
Its hunter, there's no hoes anyways
You get negative hoes in fact
Survival gets hoes
They run off to gossip to all other hoes when they see you're fury
BM and fury be sitting at the hoeless table
Arms would be cool
overtimed
If it weren't ass to play rn
Arms is dope
❤️
there was an update giving like +90 sec to timer remember
Ye... I just rarely bother updating weakauras lol
Feral main talking
lowbie scrub
Imagine not being 2.7
no
Wild
Having room temp iq isn't a flex
How about you touch grass as a flex
Say ”First time playing m+ and I have a neurotypical disease that makes my fingers press the wrong buttons”
Shaman main
That's an insult how
lets see the number
Wasnt s tier when I started playing it was it bigbob
Or was it s3
Prob s3
It had one crazy like week where it was insane
Still haven't seen the number
WHAT NUMBER
🐉
What number do you think dummy?
Its 68
I was big memeing
I only like to bully people but in reality I dont care
wtf lmao
What the fuck
Yeah
Yeah afro likes to sext guys in goldshire
Joined back in the day because for some reason I wanted an alliance-dominated server
"Im such a naughty paladin"
😂
why number small?
Because doing 12s suck
And I realized the only reason I can do m+ now is to get pixelated scores that dont matter
Or to get more gear but fuck that
Then why you trying to flex you git
IT WAS A MEME
How have u done more keystone than arena
When I knew that from the start
Cant a dude BULLY a bit
No wonder ur losing ur gains
Because Kargish refuses to play wdym lmao
and my m+ tank is depressed and online 24/7
PvE lowkey kinda fun
We are gaming today but idk if we are doing ret/warr or outlaw/feral
hit my goal on Outlaw too so next goal is 2.4 on paladin in w.e fastest bracket
Karg gonna dodge
No wonder, you can't even initiate eye contact
it literally is true
Also just play lfg it's more fun anyways
Eh
I guess karg is good at war
Most of my fun in WoW comes from playing with friends
You have friends?
Winning is fun
Surprising
😂
I never cared about W/L lmao
Losing no fun
Losing can be omegafun with the right people
Nope
I remember doing WW/Mage or something with Karg
and we lost more games than won but it was huge memes
James is just a salty bean
Mute him real quick if we lose
then unmute when we enter next arena lmao
Lol
I just wanna vibe with people I know
and not worry about rating that wont change the course of my life
Especially when learning a new spec
Solo shuffle is a godsend in that way
Just blast music and get flamed by randoms kek
oh yeah
best part is they explode to random shit
so i get to flame them back
and i always put hardstuck + im new and in your peak + noob
I just make sure they dont win rounds with me personslly
I invited Afro on a date tonight, don't eat his lies
Today yeah
daily compstomp reroller report
sub wtf
how often do you guys charge out of the way to kick a healer or something
i feel like if i do that then i just waste a charge and im stuck alone being kited more
I dont have kick bound
i just use it on a caster if thats my dps focus 🤷
Too often. But I main Slayer. I get Charge every 10 sec or so
i literally don't do anything with kicks
maybe i use charge when i dont need to as well 
no kick = they get zero value from their big gem AND they will fakecast themselves
They usually throw after 2 fake casts
they usually fakecast until i kick
i think i need a better feel for how long they can fakecast without being in immediate danger
it's probably what they're using to judge how much to do it
wish we could still progress weekly quests despite being honor capped
this is annoying
Just buy bloodstones
perfect week to make gold
Make easy money
I'm inside the bg right now
it's annoying i could be done and have to do another
Rip
Unless it’s rdru cloning or hpal pushing in to rep never really tbh
woop
hmm true
that being said sometimes charge feels so damn slow too lol
looks pretty well mixed to me lol
yet it's number 8 on the best melee class ever list!
The return of the king
who

is he a youtuber
zercher knows who pilav is
he was the first to post his new video in this channel
mightve been someone else but i think it was zercher
pretty sure i only post skillcapped vids
Real ones remember pilav and zumio drunk cata streams
huh, this guy is really maximizing his mastery on cat
full crafted gear and two pieces of single mastery
the question is
if he is full mastery why is he running insignia
id assume he is going for some oneshot build
Mastery is also just bleeds
so he is probs going bleed damage and uptime on insingnia would be higher than badge
retiring from ss for a while now
unless i wanna get 2100 on sub now
i dont even know the reward i got for 2100
u sure?
oh i have to buy them
Tabard is 2.4
If yall had to choose between Massacre and Cruelty talent for Fury, which would you choose?
My brain is massive
Of course I'm sure
Wait 20 min queue -> Win first round -> Healer that lost leaves
Fun
average ss expirience
Healers being able to instant queue ruins SS
Play Healer
i already forgot all about them let me go see what there is
even the spear is neat
it a shame theres no 2h sword this season
axes/maces always look scuffed cus of where we hold them
just imagine the 1h but zweihander length
the shield looks sick
id like it if they brought back the shield animation for def stance ,but let u mog any shield u want
I need a chainsaw 2 handed sword next season
how about a chainsaw mace?
Holy inflation
o.o
And finishers
But you get a gigaton crit baseline with feral, so just go haste for 3rd stat
Stupid question, haven't pvp'd this season... what's the go to right now? Arms or Fury
Fury or Prot
arms or fury


we need chainswords and more 40k esque items
how do you like my mace?
we're getting chainswords in undermine(d)
it's actually metal af
This is not confirmed 
it's a goblin patch
Imagine if Warrior set was chainsaw themed though
we're gonna get goblin shit
I will remember this comment
oh it's 100% gonna look like some looney toon wil.e.coyote shenanigans
but we can dream
I just need a chainsaw helmet then my life is complete
I want a giant dick helmet
Fury.


the tip

You need to get your ass in SS and stop farming gold
this is from 1 epic bg + 3 comp stomps
no wait, 2 comp stomps
this week is the gearing week
and free gold
My man
tbh i'm like one shuffle away from elite on my sham
I just get anxiety from queue right now for some dumb reason
end up logging out after 8 minutes of waiting
Zercher you’re eu?
you're too old for this
zercher is EU yes
I know it ain't rational
I'm in here watching you guys churn out 3k rating and I just don't wait to fail at 1800
Because rating doesnt matter
rating doesn't matter when you got it though
No, rating doesnt matter period
I mean I know I can do 1800, I just am in a spot right now where I'd get easier demoralized and give up
If rating could somehow make my life better then it might matter, but it won't
As a woyer to another woyer, grow some balls and queue
wow that's an insensitive thing to say to someone with less than 2 balls
jk but also 🙂
step the fuck up NERD
No wonder you can't queue
Ball-less
was it easy?
Yes
It's like warrior, but I can be 40 yds away as my pets win the game, and I can CC things
Minmax my positioning so that vs double caster only one of them can hit me
Just shuffling to Fenrir by Peyton Parrish
how Free gold?
Is it me or do all druid specs single handedly make 2s a miserable experience
I absolutely hate cyclone
those gems sell for between 4k and 7k
Druids, Hunters and Rogues, yeah.
check your talents
which talent blocks it
i just pressed it down this match i feel like something is either stopping me from using it or its bugged
Reload/relog. 
this billion dollar company cant make it so i dont have to do that to press an ability ?
last time i reloaded which was 5 min ago the solo shuffle round started and im still in loading screen
yes i pressed it on round 6 and it works suddenly
i have no clue why for like 3 rounds it wasnt doing anything
:suscat:
Demolisher is so Chad
Literally just made this arms yesterday and got some little gear and I’m almost 1800 from smashing faces in
It’s so satisfying using that ability
thats whats got me stuck gearing
~20% haste ~20% vers and the rest either crit or mast
and crit seems like it'd do well with it
I like how tanky the tree is
+1sec on shockwave the best
right?
how about smf thane
its way more consistent it seems but demolish can do more
i graduated from skirmish to 2v2
Shit's getting weirder by the second. 70% of my damage is automatic
if i can sell just 9901 of these I'll have turned a profit
Lmao
Those are legit worthless.
Good luck with that
Wish they weren't spammed in our bags man.
They need to be vendorable
OUTLAW FERAL IS BIS
ok but did you try enh + rogue?
imagine they add a vendor value of 5g to these
i'd take 22 silver if it meant getting rid of htem
could.it be that the recklessness talent for avatar is strong or am i just noob
dont see alot of people running it is why im asking
You can assume if people aren't running something its probably subpar
this cant be real
holy crap, i went some random bgs for funzies with prot
what is this killing machine
which part?
so this is what it feels like when execute can execute?
Oh that is buy
yeah I read it wrong
I read it like you having that many
and I was like what the fuck big man
the best part is that they sell instantly
9900+ just to make 50g per sale over 9900 will take a while
and i'll be fighting all the dummies thinking they don't mind if it sells for 50s all along the way
still best bet is probably buy and write to blizzard asking for them to get a gold value
vendor value
prot be protting
I'd rather get the blue version of heraldry, at least that one is somewhat useful
I think it's for transmogs nothing else
if you mean for arms, it gives only 20-25% extra crit chance for 6 seconds so unless you're running high crit to give it value, it just isn't worth
isnt it crit dmg ? wich again yea only makes sense with high crit
it's just crit chance, i only run it cause i'm at 25% crit so it gives me a true 50/50 for 6sec
it's definitely a better idea just to go mastery lol
If CS still proc'd it it'd be better
between that and blademaster's idk what was a worse change
braindead capstone change
Remove it and give us Banner 
Make hamstring a passive, thoughts?
25% crit colossus enjoyer???
absolutely big dog
still hit 20% haste/vers?

not updated
When ret+warr doe
to add to the cursed, i run spiteful to give me 10extra seconds of haste lmao
is... is it working though? >_>
oh yes
Not having AM 
also, make mortal strike apply rend

Spiteful only works if you have delulu
It can at low HP 
make it work at all hp 
let ms apply hamstring,rend and give movespeed
easy fix
but thats some bullshit though
almost all classes have a passive slow
at least melee ones
or tailored into an attack
but we get this crap
Overpower or slam applying harmstring would make sense
well they added that dumb 40% slow to tclap which is only 10% less than ham
but that requires 2 talents
which fury sometimes doesn't even want
Remove it from the GCD or make it a passive that works with Slam or another ability
Only reason they put it on the GCD was cuz people fished for Tactician procs but that's an easy fix
That is true
1 queue session a month

whats bullshit is that monks get their slow refreshed when they attack but we have to constantly reapply ham
not to mention crippling poison
Or at least make hamstring a pretty decent bleed as well
to be a healer you have to feed of the salt of your enemy healer
for arms how much haste u guys going up to
WHAT’S CHANGED? (ARMS) Really not much has changed for Arms playstyle-wise. The gameplay feels relatively the same. The biggest change was to the talents beneath Avatar. Blademaster’s Torment no longer casts Bladestorm when you press Avatar. Warlord’s Torment no longer casts Recklessness when yo...
roughly going along his advice
most recommend close to 20%
Why would the rule be last to cap wins in BGs
Wouldn't it make more sense for the first guys who capped to win in the case of a possible draw
ok thank you
yeh im not a fan of the flag rule either
I make sure to carry salt in my bags at all times
I got some to share if people want it
Good for blood circulation
there si something erotic, when killing stealth targets with thunderblast
just saying
pob one in a flag, and suddenly a rogue shows up dead
my favourite moments in pvp were always stealthies bodies just appearing, or back when there was death lag and people bodies would still be jumping a few hops while dead, tauren hunter bellyflops
MW monk now has full conquest gear so i can start sending gear chests to alts
90% of this guide is still stuck in pre-patch doe
I mean I read it just now and a lot of sections go "I think X will be good in the early season"
this part can't seem TOO far off
More like early access and not prepatch
he rolled bm hunter as his secondary stats atm
I don't think Mag sacs a point in armored atm either
Haste too good
is that him playing fury or arms
Maybe it's an M+ build
could max haste be the way to go because we get more slayer's strikes with it?
as far as I know the proc rate is hasted
ppm+haste
Shit wa doing random bgs with pve gear as prot
and still shreeding
why prot and fury play like proper warriors, but arms does not
where it all went wrong
You want haste in general because warr scales crazy good with it
yah but people say to stop at around 20%...
What for arms?
Everything scales with haste on arms
i love being orc, one paladin dude almost capped the flag by stunning me, but i got out quickly due endurance 
arms feel like another spec when you have enough haste
still bad, but better
Haste be good for AM, procs, slayer, colossus stacks, etc.
Just overall too good to pass up on
Arms and Prot wants Haste, Fury wants Mastery
how come everyone seem to have some sort of slow and root immunity, and warriors dont
constantly trying to root people with tclap, but sometimes it just doesnt work
roots dr too
wat
Rip bloodrage
i feel like knockback dr doesnt work right or like it doesnt activate till u touch the ground cus somtimes u get bounced like 6x in a row by ring if ur pinned by a wall
Root DR
Diminishing returns.
First root gonna be full duration, next is half, third is quarter, fourth is immune
When CC ends it starts a 18 sec timer
but it was the first time i was rooting then
it seems like they have some sort of immunity
They were on DR from somebody else 😁 Or freedom, like crane
by example, rogue just pop out of stealth
root didnt work
i doubt he had that
maybe cloak of shadows up?
makes u immune to all spells, im pretty sure tclap counts as a spell
Where’s that guy playing warbringer at? He get r1 yet with that talent?
gettin there
blitz isnt a real bracket
honestly not sure why im punishing myself going for 2100 weps as mw monk in shuffle instead of blitz
is this playlist pure RNG it's getting rlly boring
Am I just supposed to play and play until I get 2200 with a 50% wr
Yeah.
i almost did a close mistake
going arms instead of prot
shit is fun with prot
blitz is fun with prot
HOLY EXECUTE
Dragon charge should 100% be a skill for all warriors
this actually is fun and give you utility and a change in gameplay
it's fun but there are so many knock abilities already man
How do I counter Resto Evokers as Slayer Arms?
everyone have it, we should to
You hit evoker when it comes close
Is arms better than fury on pvp ?
no
Yep. Makes no sense to remove another one
Prot
Hi guys, do embelish have any importance in pvp? Does it work I mean? or only a pve thing?
Wich ones should I use?
No clue what it is
A website
2,5k honor from epic bg we're so back
You don't have enough mats
You need 4 more
I would not craft weapon tbh
Elemental Lens seems better in general
Unless you wanna get optimized weapon stats for fury
Mastery/vers really solid for fury and we have those on conq weppy
and yeah weapon embel kind of beans unless u only play arena or shuff lasts a long time
Weap is better in 3s yea
Solo lens is definitely better
IDk if its even b etter in 3s
it just isnt rly playable outside of 3s
like in blitz it just perma falls off unless you're perma teamfight
shuff is too short
2s arent real
WE'LL see if the great magnus goes back full mast with conq uncapped
So the crafted weapons are better than conquest gear in pvp ?
No, not really.
It's just to minmax by like, a 0.02%
2x Lens just seems better, lmao.
What does lens do again, gimme a tldr
How much haste do I need as fury?
Damage. 

What is ideal rotation / prio for fury?
time to buy more
luckily I'm selling

recklessness + avatar buff doesn't stack tho does it
correct
whatever the talent is under avatar
but thats just more so to use cds on cd
you still get the duration
not the % value
I mean if reck pops avatar for 6 secs or w/e wouldn't you wanna wait til duration ends
to pop avatar
Any reference on YouTube on pvp learning?
yeah
i use them on macro
ujsing same time
is it wrong?
wtf are they supposed to use then
reck. avatar same time was for when you use odyns fury talent wasn't it
they're supposed to use their brain and pvp guides
you delayed ava 4 sec when you have titants torment
idk i legit just use pve rotation
hasnt done me wrong
im using titant torment
that's why best guide is q'ing next
the amount of times i actually press hamstring or the aoe slow is so small
I mean it's nice to know general pve rotation tho cause dps is king but you gotta improvise in pvp still
why is that
im noob!
when you hit the training dummies, forget the rotation, focus on pressing every button in your kit and keeping ham/howl up
in pve you just press dps cd and rotations, pvp you use everything situationally
Hamstring is super important
dps still king
^
the only reason ive climbed is bc i know how to do damage
so even me not pressing slows is outweighed by me doing damage
that honestly works surprisingly well for solo shuff
but yeah if i want to improve
it works up til 2100 or sure source:me
me rn
then when it's more 2nd nature the more you can focus on other things lol
like hamstring
you say that as if my instinxt playing am isnt just dump rage
like i swear in some way just using more rage into more recks just wins me more
i agree
ill start doing it
whats talent tree are u using in solo shuffle?
murlock io basically
i just change bloodborne for bloodcraze because i felt that thunderous roar damage was negligble
idk then
shit's getting real bois
aint odys fury better?
It's a wash tbh
ive never seen any fury with onslaught
not much what's uproar with you dog?
ye htunderous is more burst
@fierce elm @rancid granite
they're looking only at skill floor*
bruh
i synergize this with odyns fury and it does tons of dmg
How is arms/dh moderate in skill floor
let me check
i have to be severely misunderstanding what you are saying
Same damage buttons, same things to hit, less utility
its pvp talent
bro they're taking a shot at you in the video
yes
named you and everything
yeah i know but how would taking thunderous words help
besides duration
Arms/Ret has the same damage rotation
when uproar is more uptime
While arms offers about 10% of Ret utility that you ahve to use
idk what they're smoking but I'm loving their new videos getting sassy
how then how does it synergize better than uproar?
they just say "warrior damage when connected is always meaningful but arms still harder than fury"
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Especially compared to Assa/Enhance/WW/Feral
Also calling ret a ranged spec more than anything else is just flat out false
Also Ret not having punchy damage is a wild take
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reck should barely sync up unless you hold?
I'm happy now
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this is how I do shaman
like my rotation
link it coward
I may try outlaw once I get tired of playing game on easymode with sub
I just grabbed the first one on wago.io lmao
its probably less good in PvP but fuck it

hi afro
it reminds you to reroll and shit who cares
sorry i forgot to tag you
i felt a disturbance
I love the guys trying to talk rotation when there's memeing to be had
lmao like it always is
honestly ret belongs in super-duper-easy tier
DONT TRIGGER ME RN
i dont get how fury/arms is any different in difficulty either
Fury/Arms/DH/Frost DK belong on the same tier lmao
dont fucking @ me
Along with Ret
ive never played anything but rogue/paladin/warrior so lol
They ranked outlaw higher because it requires higher APM
but fury who has the same tools as arms at a higher APM is ranked lower
hello
!
outlaw because of some RNG in rotation afaik
tierlist moment
But like, the RNG is barely there lmao
sub so god damn rewarding when played well though ill agree with that tier
just vibing spamming MS as arms
You don't pay attention to it anyways
Moderate