pvp

[lavish quest]

Why?

You'd have to play cloth

Big lame vibes

[slow solstice]

except mage is fun class to play

arcane cranksi n pve

CRANK

[lavish quest]

Ewwww

We hate mage here sir

[slow solstice]

i agree

[wheat jay]

homemade cheesecake is goated

[lavish quest]

This is a Wendy's

[wheat jay]

jesus

im in heaven

[slow solstice]

where can i check the elite sets

if i dont want to login

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-boo-this-man-gif-4868055

[lavish quest]

I had some tiramasu or however it's spelled last night. Not first time but still. Yumm

[fierce elm]

Tiramisu goated

[fierce elm]

google

[lavish quest]

House warming party for some friends. Now I'm at work, after basically no sleep and drinking a decent amount

They from Macedonia, so I cannot recall the things they were having me drink 😂

[rancid granite]

you can grab the df one now too its legit as well

[urban skiff]

rate my gear

[green wharf]

i only drink stuff with more than 38% alchool

[fierce elm]

I cant for this season

wdym

I cant buy old sets because I hit 1800 this season : (

[lavish quest]

Usually same. I was having hard liquor there mostly. And one glass of wine

[slow solstice]

ah it was the priest and shaman elite sets that i liked

[fierce elm]

is that the base one?

or elite one

[rancid granite]

idk base i guess you can buy it with mark of honor in df now

paladin one equally as cool

[lavish quest]

Glasses of some stuff made from a root. And a glass that seemed very similar to whiskey but they told me is not whiskey lol. Allegedly good for digestion after your meal

🤷

[exotic forge]

Purple is base, red is elite

[fierce elm]

yo thats sick

The rogue one

Spent all my Marks of honor though

[green wharf]

that seems kink

[rancid granite]

wth you buying with marks of honor

[exotic forge]

I'm so glad I have the lightning effect for them because the purple ones look so much better

[rancid granite]

you should have like a million just chillin

[lavish quest]

Kink? Lol

[green wharf]

if you can, grab one of this one day, 40%, good shit

[lavish quest]

Why do I have to download that? Lmao

[green wharf]

i dunno, i copy normally

maybe it was too strong for dicord

[fierce elm]

I don't play that much mao

[green wharf]

if you are not buying bloodstones to sell/buy sockets then you should not have much

i made like 50k once selling that shit

[rancid granite]

marks i mean

[green wharf]

ah right

[lavish quest]

Imagine being poor

[exotic forge]

I almost had 1k of those, then the DF ensembles came out

[green wharf]

i have so much of these i cant count

[rancid granite]

this change is huge though; sell a WoW token to fund gear/sockets -> pvp for the rest of the season -> sell bloodstones to fund next season

strategy

[lavish quest]

Elite marks of honor to buy elite sets when?

[fierce elm]

I have bought like all of it lmao

[green wharf]

cant buy then though

you can only buy the conquest ones

[fierce elm]

Like, I have every set on Paladin+warr

yes obviously

pretty sure I have every set on DK too

[green wharf]

you sshould be able to get previous ones, if you reach the rank this season

kind of bs you dont

you can farm old mogs in raids easier

[exotic forge]

I like this idea

[fierce elm]

everyone does

we have this discussion daily

[lavish quest]

I'm a bit of a genius

[exotic forge]

Massive forehead

[lavish quest]

Obviously I'm a cat in a suit, so I know many things

Trust

[slow solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/yokai-watch-nate-adams-say-on-skibidi-shock-gif-12331491868125797812

[fierce elm]

If healers could stop going 0-6 that would be great

[lavish quest]

Kill faster

[green wharf]

cant peel healers

[fierce elm]

Im trying my best lmao

Did get close to winning a game with the 0-6 healer

[lavish quest]

Anyone ever tell you close only matters in horse shoes and hand grenades?

[fierce elm]

Your nan

[lavish quest]

Or just an American thing?

Probably, she'd be american

[slow solstice]

[lavish quest]

Suffering from the opposite of success huh?

[slow solstice]

i made it to 2100 at least

has to mean something right

[lavish quest]

Thats like top 5% or some shit like that

So ye

Most in here dream of that number

Like Afro

[slow solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[urban skiff]

I dream of someday reaching 1600

[slow solstice]

surely it cant be hard to queue healer right

how else will i get priest set

[fierce elm]

wtf

Im a goat

[fierce elm]

try it lmao

[slow solstice]

ive seen me run it down

i cant wait

[green wharf]

🐐

[lavish quest]

I got a handful of healer elite sets multiple seasons in DF

I'd just do it in 2s

Find some big strong DPS and be their Egirl

Ez

[urban skiff]

I wanna do hpal but figuring out what to bind where is just annoying

At least for dps I know what I might expect to need to spam and what I'll use occasionally but for healer it's like, not simple?

[slow solstice]

only pvp player i know is a resto shaman otp

so

[lavish quest]

I didn't know good pvpers

[slow solstice]

er

druid

[lavish quest]

LFG my friend

[slow solstice]

nice one

[lavish quest]

Just grab the meta spec

Have some BM carry you to 1800

[green wharf]

or just do blitz

[slow solstice]

ooo

you right

if only i could convince my friend who quit to play with me

😦

[fierce elm]

you know me

I am goated

[green wharf]

blitz you can do it solo just fine

as a healr i think you will quee fast as fuck

[slow solstice]

nah im just saying having a glad pvper would make it infinitely faster

0 effort

i just heal

[lavish quest]

Ur on EU

Nerd

[fierce elm]

: (

[slow solstice]

real

[fierce elm]

worst region

[slow solstice]

leland

[lavish quest]

You need more freedom

[slow solstice]

can i be your ehealer

:3

[lavish quest]

Aren't you EU too?

[slow solstice]

no

just demonic sleep schedule

[lavish quest]

Sheet. I just assumed with you knowing Artji lmao

[slow solstice]

no

we just talk in #arms

im a pver

[lavish quest]

Maybe can do some time. I'm at work atm tho

[slow solstice]

not pvp

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay You cheating on #pvp ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[slow solstice]

always has been

🙂

[lavish quest]

What a s lut

[wheat jay]

?

namely

[lavish quest]

Artji running around talking to all the NA boys

[fierce elm]

wack

[wheat jay]

???

fuck you on about xD

[lavish quest]

Your freedom envy

Nerd

[plush cairn]

tried healing for the first time ever

[lavish quest]

You're an egirl now

How was it?

[jovial torrent]

is this how it feels to have an onlyfans, collect my simp conquest

[slow solstice]

how do you get those

[jovial torrent]

u get 1 per solo shuffle if u queue healer

guna get my rogue conquest weps the second i ding

[rancid granite]

only if you play non-holy paladin

holy paladin you're just a chad aragorn

The hands of the king are the hands of a healer.

[jovial torrent]

got about half on hpal half on mw

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-opening-door-entrance-dramatic-entrance-gif-12276283

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-power-star-wars-gif-16503984

meanwhile mw monk shooting lightning at bm pets to heal team

[rancid granite]

lol

[urban skiff]

look at this fucking boss

[lavish quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1260831993214795827.gif?quality=lossless&name=feedback&size=48

[sharp meteor]

🤩

[urban skiff]

wish I could be bothered to level a vulpera

cute as fuck

[sharp meteor]

Trueeeee. 😁

[rancid granite]

a ferocious lil cute thing i could just put in my pocket

[urban skiff]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS

yes but how is there enlistment bonus for the AI mode?

[lavish quest]

You play ded faction

[urban skiff]

horde

on tarren mill

literally the opposite of dead

[lavish quest]

Realm doesn't matter

[dense herald]

theyre 0 rating

[wheat jay]

join and tell him to send his glad achiev

O_O

[hot solstice]

but horde has vulpera

[hasty pulsar]

hating on Vulpera is like so 5 years ago tbh

[vivid pumice]

can someone remind me how you get the free conq weapons?

[fierce elm]

2500 conquest gained

[rancid granite]

look at this cute valpera irl

[spare cipher]

any general tips for pvp as arms?

or as warrior

[vivid pumice]

hit whatever you can that's close to you

try not to overlap defensive cds

if you're getting focused or in a cleave comp then play Def stance

[spare cipher]

I don't even have that many defensive cds do I

I'm assuming keeping up ignore pain is gonna be crucial

[verbal tangle]

If you aren't getting tunneled

It's not as important

But tbh I wouldn't queue Arms

[rancid granite]

don't listen to Punished Ballsack

queue arms if you like arms

queue fury if you like fury

queue prot if you like prot

s'all good

[wheat jay]

no

don't queue prot

have some dignity

[rancid granite]

👀

that goes against the point i was making though

[verbal tangle]

Prot is actually good though

[spare cipher]

And one more thing uh

What do you do against frost mages apart from die

[verbal tangle]

As Arms you rope

[wheat jay]

you die

slowly walk to him

MAYBE get some dmg

[rancid granite]

smash them until you get to higher ratings

[verbal tangle]

Fury has better chances closing the gap, but Prot unironically has the best matchup into Frost Mage

[rancid granite]

2100 in ss so many mages and hunters dunno how to kite lol

[spare cipher]

So is prot as good as arms rn?

I'm not talking arenas only or something

but like bgs too

[rancid granite]

@sharp meteor the resident prot enjoyer

[sharp meteor]

Nah.

[rancid granite]

feels like a lot of people think all tanks are memers; but there's a number of prot warriors who really enjoy playing it

[sharp meteor]

Pretty fun after how it was in df, though.

[sharp meteor]

It's a cool spec.

[spare cipher]

I played it a bit in wotlk

shield block shield slam

dead

[rancid granite]

yeah it is in BG's and stuff

haven't tried it myself in ss yet

[spare cipher]

In 3s the top prot is 2.6k almost

I assume its not as good if you dont have team coordination?

[rancid granite]

best answer is to try them all out yourself too =p

[spare cipher]

Ye

[spare cipher]

Any tips for prot?

[sharp meteor]

Did you have any like questions in particular

Because that's kind of vague

[spare cipher]

Well what is your general gameplan

In an arena

or in a bg when you enter a fight

[verbal tangle]

<@&257983573498265600>

[spare cipher]

Good starts

[sharp meteor]

You're just an Arms warr without mortal strike

[verbal tangle]

And a fuckload more tankier

[sharp meteor]

Bodyguard goated talent when you can play it

you demolish hunters windwalkers and esp other warriors really hard

[verbal tangle]

Your entire gameplay is to build l stacks to land the fattest Demolish

[sharp meteor]

Idk if colo is the play

[verbal tangle]

I'd play Colossus

Especially into castrrs

Shield Slams are fucking huge

[rancid granite]

hows your big tclap numbers as thane

when i played prot in bg's i felt demolish was the only thing that made me viable lol

[spare cipher]

I copied some build from murlok

and thats basically what I do now

since it was some colossus prot build

but uh

the people I've seen on murlok mostly do mountain thane

[sharp meteor]

It's really mostly thelightning strikes esp with execute

prot has the finishin power 🪓

[rancid granite]

ill have to give it more of a chance

[sharp meteor]

ye

lightning zappies

plus big executes

easier to get value out of than uhh demo

although nonstop shield slammies seem nice as colo?

and if you can setup demo it might be fine

like if they dont have a stop

[spare cipher]

Dunno how demolish is ever gonna hit

I mean you can stun but

[spare cipher]

if they move out of the range

its joever

[sharp meteor]

ya gotta shield charge prior

[urban skiff]

so close

[urban skiff]

this is the dream

[rancid granite]

1h and shield just feels cool too

[vivid pumice]

man watching you guys talk about this makes me miss gladiator stance

I'm firmly in the "No tanks in arena" camp but man if they brought glad stance back i'd play prot in solo shuffle in a heart beat

[urban skiff]

no tanks in arena is nonsense. They could just as easily make it so tanks aren't especially tanky in pvp but just play like regular dps

or play like support

[vivid pumice]

yeah but until blizzard actually puts time into balancing tanks for arena, you're hurting yourself and your team more often than not by playing them

[urban skiff]

naw

my prot is fun as heck

big demolish

[spare cipher]

Can you transmog a shield as an off hand?

[hasty pulsar]

No

[vivid pumice]

its a little strange to me that no one plays demolish as Arms, the abilities seem really strong

[hasty pulsar]

I’ve seen a a good sized minority of people playing colossus personally

But moreso in bgb

[rancid granite]

on murlok it's been about a constant 10 / 50 players using it

[rancid granite]

the dps and charge cooldown from slayer is lovely though

[urban skiff]

try it and tell us what you think

[vivid pumice]

demolish doesn't do enough damage

just tried it in a few rounds

[rancid granite]

a good streak of demo/ms crits can be game winning tho

[vivid pumice]

yeah but waiting on stars to align will not win as many games as the pressure you get from Slayer

thats my experience anyway

[dense herald]

but once u get like 4mil crit from demo it feels good yknow

[vivid pumice]

i just tried it in 3 rounds of solo shuffle that were melee cleave so i had 100% uptime and didn't miss any demolishes and it just wasn't killing people

[exotic forge]

Kill doesn't have to necessarily come from Demolish

[rancid granite]

i feel the same way coffee

everytime i get close to 2100 i go slayer

col seems more fun and viable in rbgb tho

[orchid badge]

i might have to go arms

playing prot and losing every blitz

[vivid pumice]

i'm gonna do a few more shuffles with colossus arms because its fun and i'm only in the 1600 bracket on my warrior but eventually i'm gonna have to swap to slayer or start pushing with fury instead

arms has some really fun and cool moments but with every lobby having a bm hunter or frost mage, it's hella annoying to play

[orchid badge]

is fury better vs frostmage?

[pure hornet]

Anyone elce want to reconsider from gnome to tauren?

[orchid badge]

i would go tauren if the r14 set looked better

[exotic forge]

Tauren with high warlord gear

Pat vibes

[vivid pumice]

i haven't messed with it personally but my understanding is that fury can get a little more uptime on targets that aren't the mage, whereas with arms you just sit roots and slows all game

Oh yeah the other problem i'm facing is that I refuse to play gnome or any munchkin races so I'm struggling as Draenai, and it wasn't much better as nelf

[rancid granite]

really dont worry about racials there's so much more to focus and improve on for the most part

[vivid pumice]

you say that but warrior feels unplayable without a root cleanse

[iron fractal]

Fury use authority of the depths over radiant power?

[rancid granite]

these guys making it to the top of the charts

don't look at fury though 🙈

[pure hornet]

Ye once you go gnome, when reroll you get rooted more often or i am just delusioned

[exotic forge]

I will be the first undead at the top

Surely

[pure hornet]

Undead is cool

Weapon Swings are dopamine

[exotic forge]

This guy gets it

[orchid badge]

how do i fit hte critical thinking talent as slayer?

seems good

[urban skiff]

making the other team focus all their cc and control on your is still a path to victory

they're doing it because they have to

[vivid pumice]

yeah and then they have 2 dps who get to play the game vs my teams 1

[urban skiff]

nah

[exotic forge]

We had it so good with Bloodrage

[urban skiff]

they have two dps who spent all their cc trying to fight your partner

Turn that into your strength

[worthy fern]

Or they used the cc they have that’s specifically designed for them to escape melee to make you not play and then the rest of their spammable or otherwise cc on the actual game

[boreal veldt]

demolish has been broken since beta and they haven't fixed it/redesigned it so a lot of arms just runs haste slayer for consistency

also a lot of col is tied to crit which is kinda sus to build in pvp

LETS GO F TIER

LAROS GOIN BM LMFAOO

[rancid granite]

they still killing people who d/c'd and losing anyway?

if i got the team right

[boreal veldt]

oh yeah

they did scum out the move for one round before getting 2-0'd

but laros was reppin warr so i was biased, not anymore

[lavish quest]

Warrior needs the opponent to DC to win

[orchid badge]

i changed some arms pieces to get more mastery instead of haste

will see how it feels

[spare cipher]

@sharp meteor So what are your main attacks as thane prot

How often do you use revenge

[sharp meteor]

Never.

Maybe to apply deep wounds to a bunch of pets.

[spare cipher]

So what are the main attacks

[worthy fern]

Execute and tclap

According to the prot war I fought last night that shit on us

2.1 mil executes

[urban skiff]

what do you do instead

[spare cipher]

And when you can't execute and tclap is on cooldown?

[urban skiff]

you still have shield slam, m8

prot never runs out of buttons

[spare cipher]

Hm

[exotic forge]

Keep slammin

[urban skiff]

how do i get 1k conquest easiest when I don't have weapons?

[spare cipher]

And if I need to generate rage qwuick

demoralizing shout?

and clap also generates

[urban skiff]

I want to not buy honor weapons just for the last 1k conquest

[boreal veldt]

easiest is just spamming comp stomp

[urban skiff]

that's still 100 wins

[boreal veldt]

100 easy guaranteed wins 🙂

[urban skiff]

I think I'm calling it for today

dailies are so much more efficient

[karmic meteor]

guys can someone explain to me the pvp talent sharpen blade

[spare cipher]

Just do the quests

[urban skiff]

already did 'em

[karmic meteor]

does it so mortal strike does 100% antiheal or is it really just a +15% dmg increase?

[boreal veldt]

it's a healer cc

[urban skiff]

my rogue skipped honor gear completely by getting bloody token gear

except getting the last conq for weapons is just excruciating

[karmic meteor]

you do not need to spend conq you get free token once you reach a certain rank i believe @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

I know. I'm at 1500/2500

[boreal veldt]

in pvp MS is a 25% heal decrease, Sharpen boosts it to 50%

[exotic forge]

15% increase to ms dmg, 50% healing reduction for 4 sec

[boreal veldt]

i saw that

[karmic meteor]

ah i see im currently leveling and the mortal strike is already 50% thats why i was confused lol

[exotic forge]

You didn't

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-shrek-gif-15350610703372212021

[karmic meteor]

cant wait to play full crit arms

i love classes that stack a lot of crit

sadly looks like arms is the only one

[exotic forge]

Yeah in pve ms is 50% but in pvp it's 25% healing reduction

[chilly magnet]

I'm pretty much full crit

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[chilly magnet]

Some haste mixed in there

I feel like some haste is needed

[silver jacinth]

prio stats for fury ?

[orchid badge]

is wild strikes any good as arms?

20% attack speed

[exotic forge]

You use it for the haste increase mostly

[boreal veldt]

yeah depends on how much haste you run

[worthy fern]

My experience so far has been the extra Stam is just more worth on the right side

[exotic forge]

If you already have good enough haste then take Endurance

[karmic meteor]

big pp energy

[boreal veldt]

i run wild strikes cause cursed ah colossus stats

thats in pvp combat

[spare cipher]

Do we just hard cast shattering throw?

[exotic forge]

[exotic forge]

Unless you're playing with a priest with half a brain, yes

[spare cipher]

So do you wanna stun them beforehand or?

[boreal veldt]

[exotic forge]

Please read what you just typed

[spare cipher]

I meant the target

[boreal veldt]

what're you shattering bud

[spare cipher]

They can just los no?

[exotic forge]

You can't stun them if they're immune HAHAHA

[spare cipher]

Right

I read it wrong

I thought of it more as an offensive cd that ups your damage but its just to deal with immunities

[boreal veldt]

see thats what i thought

nah brotha

[exotic forge]

You don't use that or Wrecking Throw for damage ever (and don't use Wrecking because it does boo boo dmg anyway)

Shatter for Ice Block/Bubble unless you're playing with a Priest who knows what MD is

[vivid pumice]

what you wanna do is CC anyone who can stun you out of shattering throw

when i play my ret if i'm against arms i bubble and either Los or hoj war

when i'm playing arms i hammer the other dps so they can't stop me breaking bubble

[exotic forge]

And in something like shuffle, if you're playing against ret, just go the other dos, cuz you never really wanna stop doing dmg

[vivid pumice]

yeah honestly with it having a cast time, i've found shattering throw is not great to have bc by the time you've casted it the enemy healer has already topped them off

[exotic forge]

A lot can happen in these seconds you're casting it

More so, you leave yourself vulnerable

[boreal veldt]

F tier hooooly

they get the W after benchin the warr player

[chilly magnet]

U like that huh?

[vivid pumice]

wait the counted the game where his power went out?

[fierce elm]

Yes

[vivid pumice]

that's so fucked lol

[fierce elm]

There are no rules in place for that UNLESS it happens before the arena starts

[rancid granite]

why though

buncha cheaters begin losing and act like they d/c?

[sharp meteor]

Why

[rancid granite]

the ol 'im lagging guys' excuse

CLASSIC

[sharp meteor]

Start losing, disconnect

[vivid pumice]

@sharp meteor I mean it's not like it isn't verifiable lol

[rancid granite]

i mean they all play the tournament remotely right?

opposed to in-person venue

[boreal veldt]

to play devil's advocate during that game they didn't attack the afk player for like 30-40sec

they kept it a 2v3 for a lil bit

[vivid pumice]

they need to be able to pause play when something like that happens

but that would require blizzard putting money into AWC

[boreal veldt]

[vivid pumice]

F Tier playing walking simulator with this comp

[wheat jay]

Wait

Pikaboo dc again?

[vivid pumice]

wait did they get rid of Lithi? I don't see his name on predictions chart anymore

[spare cipher]

Do you stay in defensive stance mostly as prot?

[sharp meteor]

Always, yeah.

[spare cipher]

Do we have any offensive cds apart from avatar?

Strictly like damage increasing

[plush cairn]

my ele sham stacked

bit more mastery, not enough

+5k conquest for today

[wheat jay]

Diversity hire is gone afaik

[vivid pumice]

idgaf about identity politics but he definitely did not know how to shoutcast

he got better towards the end but like, it's hard to hear someone who can't remember ability names try to keep up with a game as fast paced as wow arena

[spice hornet]

Not surprised lythi gone, the chat was just too toxic about it no matter what lol

[fickle ice]

Am I missing something regarding enduring rage PvP talent? I see it being used, but seems like a fairly weak choice

[sharp meteor]

Make angy more often.

[spice hornet]

It’s somewhat better than the remaining options

[sharp meteor]

Probs lobbed because not a pvpman.

PvP is hard enough to call when you do know what's going on.

[vivid pumice]

when they unlock conquest points do we think they'll make it warband tradeable or will we be buying tokens again

[spice hornet]

Should be Tuesday

Good question

[sharp meteor]

Hmm? Probably not, but maybe.

I hope it's conq because I want heraldry on alts.

Not rando pieces.

[fickle ice]

Guess I’ve been feeling more value out of the short rally as an extra root break

[vivid pumice]

yeah same

[green wharf]

im pretty sure they said conquest points would be warband transferable, but they got cold feet

[sharp meteor]

I mean we'll know when it's uncapped.

Otherwise people would use alts to funnel.

Not that it has mattered for a few weeks as we're all like 638

[spice hornet]

lol good idea, but I play gnome so I feel pretty good about roots

[exotic forge]

If it's warband transferable hopefully there's no tax return on it. And it'd be a better choice over the random rng from chests

[vivid pumice]

it honestly feels like they wait way too long in the season to unlock it

by like week 6 it doesn't matter anymore imo

[sharp meteor]

Eh even a tax would be fine

mailing an alt 4-5k conq

then getting the free piece

and 9 heraldries

gonna be so insane

esp if they make bloody tokens warbound

every alt just 535 insta

[exotic forge]

I will commit tax fraud

[sharp meteor]

alts gonna go CRAZY

[exotic forge]

TAX FRAUD

[spice hornet]

Yeah like week 8 would be nice

[vivid pumice]

i mean thats how it should be 7-8 weeks into a season

[sharp meteor]

ya 11 too long

we all full gear in like 7-8

let people buy offpieces sooner

so we can play offspecs instead of making alts

[vivid pumice]

by then i should be allowed to log any character and queue up with no obstacles

[spice hornet]

One of my warriors is completely bricked cause I tried some crit builds on it

So can’t even play it

Need that uncap

[vivid pumice]

instead of sitting in comp stomp with an outlaw rogue falling asleep to replace gear from DF season4

[exotic forge]

Only reason I see myself touching comp stomp is getting AB achieves for Battlemaster

[vivid pumice]

it's great if you need gem slots still

games are less than 10 min and you get like 300 honor a pop

i'm doing it at work because i can afk through it

[green wharf]

yeah, good point

[exotic forge]

If they uncapped everything the game would be more fun

Would actually respect your time

[sharp meteor]

needs to be capped for a bit

and honestly gearing is the least time consumin bit

[exotic forge]

I don't mean just conquest, I mean like, everything else lol

[fickle ice]

Also nice to never care about rootbeam

[spare cipher]

WHAT THE FUCK

This fucking horse flies?

[vivid pumice]

valor stones or whatever they're called and the crests need to be account wide, but thats pve stuff. Conq needs to be capped for the first few weeks so people don't no life and max gear in the first day

[exotic forge]

All of them do

[spare cipher]

That's crazy

Looks so goofy too

[vivid pumice]

but after like week 6 it should all be account wide

[green wharf]

they fly now?

they fly now

i hate this shit meme is on my brain now

[plush cairn]

well i got a long way to go

[exotic forge]

At least you're doing it legit unlike all those nerds sitting at 1,2k honor levels

[plush cairn]

im going for 80 and 250

for legion artifacts and the horse

the 500 will come passivelly later on

[boreal veldt]

let me prestige my honor level

send me back to 1

i want my crappy bronze sord back

[sturdy valve]

Well, i think I have hit my peak at <1600 at bg blits, certifiably a shitter lol

I can't even break 1600

17 wins and 28 losses. At this point my mmr changes by like 10 per win or loss so like, I am not going anywhere fast.

[sharp meteor]

Just keep pressing queue.

[sturdy valve]

I am for the night, got shoulder surgery tomorrow so will be out for a while.

[sharp meteor]

It's mostly just an endurance test.

[sturdy valve]

Thought I could hit a measly 1600 before it happened but guess not.

[rancid granite]

make your recovery some anime training montage

watch endless content and guides while you get better

then you come back better than ever, rejuvinated, HEALED

[fickle forge]

Or just play shuffle for 1600 instead of blitz

[rancid granite]

na come back and double down shoot for 2100

[sturdy valve]

Guess I could try solo shuffle tonight if the queues are good.

At 0 mmr though and got like 4 hours to play so doubt I can get enough games in

[deep condor]

Does reck apply a +crit chance modifier or is it supposed to give +20 on the stat sheet when popped? For warlords torment as arms anyways

[plush cairn]

i only have fun in blitz tanking

or healing

just yolo

troll people with resto sham hex/double root/lasso when theyre tryna get to the objectives

lmao

by the time my cc's wear off i already have another root up

[green wharf]

so true

i got high on my warlock fucking with other people

there is the talent you can teleport the enemy

[plush cairn]

i target warriors

[green wharf]

so gooood

[plush cairn]

because im warrior main

and i hate roots

lmao

[plush cairn]

wolf?

[green wharf]

one bg i won because i keept taking people from the carts, so our team got it

can never do that shit on my war

[green wharf]

warlock have the nether portal

instead of tp yourself, you can tp enemies in aoe

[plush cairn]

i mean this is kinda op

[rancid granite]

was this you?

felt like i was in the twilight zone a lock was hating on melee

[green wharf]

not rly

i meant i was teleporting melee and ranged alike

my max was taking 5 from the cart

glorious

[rancid granite]

into the water???

thats my absolute least favorite thing in the game

im like 'wtf did i glitch out?'

then realize im hugged a corner underwater

[green wharf]

didnt got the chance to do that yet

gilneas almost never comes up

and i got 1950 and stopped cause work

usually i more on the offense, demo is packing some good damage in TF

[plush cairn]

the fuck is this ele burst

3mil dps ST

[spare cipher]

Man I have the hardest time staying alive as anything but prot

[green wharf]

fucking hate immortal healers in this game man

me as a hunter and a warrior wailling on this disc

shit doesnt die

[fallen estuary]

NERF HEALERS, OBLITERATE HEALERS

Warriors are literally oppressed rn and if we are to DEFEAT big warlock keeping us down we must rally for buffs. Nothings dying except us and we

Must

Change

That

[green wharf]

weird to wail on warlocks

but i guess i got the sentiment

[fallen estuary]

Big warlock is a part of casters inc

[rancid granite]

pin all of it

[stark agate]

Is there any significant cost to druids casting cyclone?

[fallen estuary]

Yea you losing

[rancid granite]

you guys think depths is that much better for fury

[sharp meteor]

i cant tell if its better

or just details syndrome

[slow solstice]

i imagine they just copy sims

[sharp meteor]

ehh

radiant sims lower

but u get more int from trinket bonus

u can sim pve dps and see how it maybe applies to pvp

but never directly, right

too many variables

[green wharf]

i think radiant power is better cuz gives you main stat

and it procs ok

but maybe the dot i doing better

[fallen estuary]

I thought it was a embel, just watch itll get nerfed when i start using it

[green wharf]

but honestly i dont want to see any dot near my war anymore

[slow solstice]

you play cold blood hot steel

as fury can never run from it

[green wharf]

i dont

[slow solstice]

wtf do you play

i need to see

[rancid granite]

na weapon enchant, most fury going lens still

wasting hella gold swapping back to fury

need conq uncapped already

[green wharf]

im still using the one that gives verst

i dont want to reforge that shit

[boreal veldt]

banning the zuldazar map would be a huge lock nerf

[rancid granite]

ill waste all my gold min/maxing for the fun of it lol

[boreal veldt]

i still laugh when 23 goblin mines explode out of my ass

who needs a lens

[rancid granite]

thats what i orig. wanted to get cause it sounded awesome lmao

[boreal veldt]

they're so dumb i love it

[spice hornet]

warbringer not helping you take em out on that map eh

[boreal veldt]

ITS A GOOD TALENT

[spice hornet]

its a shi talent

[boreal veldt]

man im on a 3 blitz streak don't tilt me

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[boreal veldt]

don't tell the 44 blitz arms warriors above me i run mines and warbringer, i'll be embarassed

[green wharf]

having ton of gold is funnier for me

[green wharf]

going on reddit right now

[rancid granite]

getting gold back from pvp is so fun tho

[boreal veldt]

[green wharf]

i would get more, if i didnt waste the bloodstones to socket my alt gear

thank god i did cause warlock is more fun than war

[boreal veldt]

wym, youre still playing war

[rancid granite]

it helped me give up on multiple alts

i just need my rogue pocket pick

lol

[green wharf]

sure...

[stark agate]

What's that cringe thing BM hunters do where their pet is really big

[sturdy valve]

Silly question probably but I can't figure it out. Sometimes my Bladestom spell button on the action bar glows, what does it mean if its glowing? I assume proc of some sort is affecting it? How?

[stark agate]

slayer stacks from slayers strike and execute, gives you up to 3 extra bladestorm ticks

[sturdy valve]

Ohhhhh

[steep cairn]

i'm seeing people running upwards of 43% mastery for fury, does it not DR the same as other stats?

[boreal veldt]

it does dr but it still has higher value than haste/crit even passed dr

[zenith briar]

In WoW Classic, what is the best classic to destroy a druid?

[sage birch]

Hey everyone, kinda funny request here. My guild just got AOTC and to celebrate the guild leader thought it would be funny to have the two main tanks duel and the rest of the guild place bets on who'll kill who. It's me vs. a Veng DH. We're both a bit worried that it'll just end up a stalemate, but I really think Colossus can crit him to death. Neither of us have much PvP gear (I'm currently working on farming that). Anyone have any suggestions? Does this just sound dumb? Am I too confident in Prot War v. Veng Demonhunter?

[boreal veldt]

idk much about veng but prot can absolutely chunk with execute, shslam, shcharge, and demolish

[spice hornet]

just play a rogue

[zenith briar]

If I get a pocket heal tho, would u say warrior?

[sage birch]

Yeah I have no idea, I really think it'll just go on until someone passes out lmao

if we were dps specs I would just obliterate him lol

should I just go double damage trinket and ignore medallion?

[spice hornet]

nah id still just play rogue its too good in classic

[zenith briar]

im making a trailer for my war with onlyfangz

[urban skiff]

DR is at rating, not %. Just so happens that haste/crit has the same scaling per rating while mastery is different for each spec

I think it's around 21k rating

[magic trout]

Idk how you guys survive as fury. No issues being kill target as arms but I feel like on flop as fury

[verbal tangle]

Proper use of the little tools we have

Knowing the map also helps a lot

[green wharf]

fury self/heal self sustain is pretty good

in fact i survive way more in fury

arms is shit, ignore pain does nothing to me

[spare cipher]

Might be a dumb question but

What's like a damage "rotation" that arms does in pvp?

I've been playing blitz on arms and prot

And on arms when I do like overpower into mortal strike, execute every proc, slam inbetween if nothing is available

I just dont do as much damage as if I just clap, slam, and execute as prot

[fickle forge]

Definitely concerning if you outdamage your arms with prot

You using an ilvl 10 weapon per chance?

[fierce elm]

Basically the same as PvE honestly

[spare cipher]

No I just think I'm doing it wrong

Which is why I'm asking

[fickle forge]

MS on CD, exe on CD and OP in between

[dense herald]

You wont have rage for execute

Ms>exe

[green wharf]

Got a holy pall triggered in the forum, cause i said healers stop playing cause skill issue

week already starting great

[dense herald]

[cerulean latch]

Guys I'm new to pvp and I was thinking to start playing my warrior again with my dk! Which spec is good for pvp?

[green wharf]

whatever you like to play the most

they are pretty on pair

[cerulean latch]

I'm more comfortable with fury tbh as I was fury main in the past 2 expansions tbh!

[fickle forge]

Fury has the edge and arms is viable

You just pick whichever one you find more fun

[cerulean latch]

Oh nice so both works i guess! Is it worth to buy from AH the algari set till I can get gear with bloody tokens and conquest?

[fickle forge]

If you got money sure, just line yourself up with whatever you can till you're conq'd up

[cerulean latch]

It is very cheap so I can go for it I guess! I see! Also what stats are good for pvp mastery and versatility I guess?

[fickle forge]

Mastery for fury, haste for arms

[cerulean latch]

Ok great then! And conquest gear can be turned into tier set right? But for pvp the max track is champion?

[fickle forge]

Something along those lines yeah, I don't really use my PvP gear for PvE so Idk

[cerulean latch]

Ok I got it! Thanks for info!!

[zenith briar]

Can I drop a trailer in here for my pvp war?

[fickle forge]

No

[zenith briar]

https://youtu.be/f0wB9GyxSIE

[fierce elm]

Kek

[zenith briar]

shits fr hype

im so excited

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-deals-with-gif-4602676702409511485

[spare cipher]

Jumping forward is same speed as running forward right?

[fierce elm]

It feels faster

[vivid pumice]

why not brutal finish over culling cyclone?

[spare cipher]

any drakthyrs here?

[slow solstice]

its not nerfed like it was in pve

[exotic forge]

What a weird change

[slow solstice]

?

fury needed to get nerfed but it was over nerfed

[exotic forge]

I mean Culling Cyclone

It's 20% in PvP but 10% in PvE, right?

That's so weird

[slow solstice]

yeah

[lavish quest]

Fury needed to be buffed you mean

[vivid pumice]

Brutal finish could lead to some really nasty early burst if you sharpen after bladestorm

[exotic forge]

All that only for MS to hit for 800k

[fickle forge]

Your lifts are low

2M MS is normal

[exotic forge]

I need a hefty Mortal Strike

[fierce elm]

Karg hits one 2m ms every 40 games

[exotic forge]

I need it to delete my target from existence

Unnerf Martial Prowess

[lavish quest]

2M MS when hitting a critter in Elewyn

[exotic forge]

Remember when you could delete people in a Warbringer into an Execute?

[visual plover]

quick quesation for those who played dragonflight patch with the upgradeable gear, was the ring or whatever it was BiS for pvp? I'm askiung cuz we are getting a ring or something in 11.0.7

[fierce elm]

I doubt its gonna be competitive due to ilvl

[verbal tangle]

Unless the ring is absolutely fucking broken it won't beat a pvp ring

[visual plover]

ok just curious thanks

[lavish quest]

It will end up at 639 ilvl

[fierce elm]

Yeah but pve

[lavish quest]

So if will be same ilvl

And?

So sacking vers for possibly OP effects

It could end up good. Unless they nerf in pvp

[fierce elm]

w a c k

[visual plover]

i just dont wanna pve 😭😭😭

[fierce elm]

Guess we will find out when we get more information

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Like all pve stuff it's probably coming 60-90% pre nerfed.

[exotic forge]

Ring effects will be nerfed by 75% in pvp

Do what you will with that info

[sharp meteor]

Ya non zero chance it's sidegrade tier but can probs just be ignored

[exotic forge]

If it has nice stats then it's worth picking up

Otherwise

[torpid root]

Hey everyone! new to warrior, could someone explain to me the difference between slayer and colossal in terms of damage cc etc

[exotic forge]

Slayer = faster, slightly more mobile, passive but strong, can kick and stun while spinning
Colossus = slower buildup, bigger hits, slightly more tanky, longer shockwave (1 sec plus slow)

[torpid root]

Thank you mate really appreciate it

[elfin surge]

well said

[fierce elm]

Collosus wont hit, Slayer will

[fierce elm]

are you a teacher now wtf

[elfin surge]

what does that even mean bruh

[fierce elm]

So nice nowadays

I miss old MUD

[green wharf]

it feels to me that slayers is more tnaky due to the healing with sudden death proc

at least i survive more with it

[exotic forge]

[exotic forge]

Eh, it's not too significant in the grand scheme of things. At least I've never noticed it healing for a significant amount

I care more about the damage tbh

[torpid root]

What's better for damage col or slayer for a arms warrior?

Or whats easier for a new warrior player

[lavish quest]

"Those who can't do, teach." Probably something along those lines

[lavish quest]

Don't hate your life, just play slayer

[torpid root]

I don't know I've been known to make my life difficult when there's been no need

[hasty pulsar]

I think I have more 'oh damn that was fun' moments on colossus, but I also have more 'damn that sucks' moments too

slayer definitely more consistent

[torpid root]

So more rnjesus or col

[hasty pulsar]

well its moreso if I land a demolish well or I somehow mess it up and miss

then its like feelsbadman

[torpid root]

I'm with you

[lavish quest]

Slayer is better and easier

[torpid root]

I play pres evoker and sv hunter atm

But levelled a warrior and it's too fun man

[green wharf]

you play evoker?

boo this man chat

[torpid root]

Ya boys healing for all your ss

Be nice

[fickle forge]

Survival
Evoker 🏳️‍🌈

[rancid granite]

yap thats what i said

but then its like if i go slayer might as well go fury slayer

[hasty pulsar]

what are the best healers to go on in rated bg blitz

[torpid root]

Pres evoker is elite but I'm bias

[fierce elm]

none

[hasty pulsar]

how come i see others training my healers and then we lose then

does that just mean im not peelign for my healer well enough and crap

I rarely see a resto druid these days

everyone is a mistweaver or priest

[fickle forge]

Hpala

[hasty pulsar]

ya pala too

[fickle forge]

Presvoker is still crazy good

[sterile moth]

Are warriors pvping in 4 piece? Just coming back to game, do you have to raid to get that

[hasty pulsar]

arms I use 4 piece and I think most do

[wheat jay]

[urban skiff]

or can do it with bloody token pieces to avoid wasting conq if it turns out bad

everyone should have too many bloody tokens right now so it's cool

best part of comp stomp is you can tell what's going to be popular because it's what rerollers are playing

[sharp meteor]

Nearly time to start investing into dh I fear.

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

why are there so many fury and rets lmao

[urban skiff]

you tell me

[urban skiff]

INVEST INTO DH FEAR

[fierce elm]

Ret has recieved 0 changes

what the fuck

[urban skiff]

maybe skillcapped put out a video recently that stated what specs are best?

let me check

[sharp meteor]

Skillcapped is bad.

[fierce elm]

yeah but its popular

[urban skiff]

remove all the unpopular specs and you have fury ret ww on top and i guess arms

actually 10 of the 15 players are in the melee A or A+ tier

I take it back, it accurately represents the skillcapped vid

[fierce elm]

THERE I AM

[urban skiff]

notice enh on A+?

that's me

[fierce elm]

Assa/Outlaw being B for solo shuffle

is wild

Why is skillcapped so ASS

[fierce elm]

Survival being A+ is also wild same with enhance

what the fuck

[urban skiff]

it's REALISTIC solo pvp tier list

[fierce elm]

is this list lmao

Ah yeah, enhance arguably one of the hardest melee specs A+ REALISTIC

[urban skiff]

it's "if you're perfectly average what can you best succeed in"

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/wXhEaFElioY

[fierce elm]

this is so fucking dumb

[urban skiff]

I'm sure if i watched the video they'd say something like "enh A+ but all the players are super dedicated and great players so your milage may vary go play ww or fury"

But I don't read and I don't watch

So I guess it remains a mystery what the video will say

[fierce elm]

"Some specs are outperforming public expectation"

oh my lord

oh my lord

[urban skiff]

😄

[fierce elm]

this video is already dogshit

[urban skiff]

Take it for what it is

Not for elite players

it's for dumbos like me

[fierce elm]

"Survival and Feral have very similar rating-curve, and they have equal winrate between challenger and rival"

lmao wtf

"Similar rating distribution"

and an ad for their class course

They are looking at 1800 through winrate? thats weird as hell

[urban skiff]

I guess

[fierce elm]

yeah they are looking at winrate, neglecting the fact that every Enhancement player is autistic or someones 5th alt

[urban skiff]

I have a doctor's note that says I'm not austistic

:<

[fierce elm]

So this is purely from data

which is w i l d

[spare cipher]

the doctor's autistic too

plot twist

[urban skiff]

Enh is like stupid easy

[fierce elm]

because having 20000 Feral players compared to 200 enhance players lmao

[urban skiff]

feral that popular?

[fierce elm]

So yeah they are looking at pure winrate

[urban skiff]

i just want th emog

[fierce elm]

naa but its popular

[urban skiff]

Lmao I was like rank 34 enh at some point in blitz with a 19% win rate

[fierce elm]

yeah na this annoys me

why did you link this

Having outlaw/assa BELOW DK SHOULD BE A CRIME

what the HELL

their ranged tier list is also pretty wack ngl

[urban skiff]

I also play aug

i think something is wrong with my ability to pick main

[fierce elm]

I mean you ar eplaying an A+ spec

smh

Cant believe I mained Ret

then swapped to Outlaw

never S-tier spec smh

[urban skiff]

You know what they say

If you can't succeed in S-tier you can play E-tier and pretend you're being held back by class

[spare cipher]

something something f-tier

[urban skiff]

Today is my wife's last day in her 20s

anything she gotta do before it's over?

[fierce elm]

Divorce time

Im kidding but damn thats old

[urban skiff]

It's 5 years too late to dicaprio her

you think that's old, I'm like 1½ year away from my 40s

[fierce elm]

OLD ASS

[urban skiff]

old ENH ass

[lavish quest]

Gotta get the latest model

[urban skiff]

She used to model, I keep telling her to start selling foot pics

[lavish quest]

Not that kind of model ya old ass

[spare cipher]

check local retirement homes

[urban skiff]

I'll put her in one tomorrow

[ebon shale]

Lmao

[orchid badge]

if im playing arms in a blitz

[dense herald]

thats why i play warrior

[orchid badge]

big teamfight at waterworks or something

[dense herald]

[orchid badge]

should i generally attack a healer or a dps?

[dense herald]

probably healer unless your team is trying to cc the healers

[orchid badge]

its impossible for me to know if someone wants to cc healers or not

[fierce elm]

So throw your own CC

[urban skiff]

3m+ dam in one global tho

[fierce elm]

WHAT RATING HUH

[urban skiff]

from actives not counting passive

[urban skiff]

1381

my peak

[fierce elm]

yooo wtf

huge

[urban skiff]

jk I'm still collecting gear

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

I got caught up in my enh

reminds me i gotta go grab 1800 so I can go focus rogue and war and feral

and survival i guess

I may have an altoholic problem

[fierce elm]

yeah

where 1800 on rogue

[urban skiff]

I'm still 700 conq short of having weapons

[fierce elm]

I need to get the last 15 rating kek

[urban skiff]

wearing 515 pvp daggers from df

[fierce elm]

how can you not have infinite honor my guy

[urban skiff]

just so i won't rely on rogue damage

I do

I wanted to skip using honor on my rogue just to try it

[fierce elm]

lmao

struggle for no reason

[urban skiff]

idk it made sense at the time

[fierce elm]

Spend 1800 honor or grind 2500 conquest with bad weapons lmao

[urban skiff]

and now I'm too stubborn to change direction

[fierce elm]

sorry, not just bad

useless

[urban skiff]

i could buy bloody token daggers

they have haste or crit

this is good right?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

means we've lulled them into a sense of false peace

almost ready to buy pvp gear tbh

Just gotta decide what kind of prot war I wanna be. The "This is obviously fury gear and I specced prot as a joke" or "this is obviously arms gear and..."

[fierce elm]

h o l y f u c k

lmao

Give me all your gold rn

[urban skiff]

uh sure

are you EU?

actually gotta buy some blizz dollaroos so i can buy the golden longboi

[haughty jewel]

can i have gold

[fierce elm]

lmao yeah

but I aint begging

I am selling bloodstones because rogue is getting honor

and I cba getting sockets

[urban skiff]

get enough sockets to trigger double lens and grab meta gem

so 1-2 sockets is fine

[fierce elm]

doesnt one gem trigger double lens

[haughty jewel]

yea

but not bloodstone

and u need bloodstone

[fierce elm]

yeah obviously

[haughty jewel]

woah woah woah buddy i was just asnwering ur question

[fierce elm]

no

[urban skiff]

yea obviously!

[fierce elm]

I am angry now

[urban skiff]

a n g r y

[fierce elm]

but I thought he meant that I needed two non-meta gems lmao

and I was like the fuck

[urban skiff]

never doubt my knowledge

[sharp meteor]

It being like 35-40k per socket is kind of rough.