Mounts alone dwarves the rewards from PvP
#pvp
fierce elm
hot solstice
but are those as prestigious
cba only glad mount matters and title
but 3s is dead
70% games played by same 200 ppl
fierce elm
The mount from Ansurek is pretty prestigious
along with the title for killing on mythic
amber heron
people who play PVE are women
hot solstice
The mount from Ansurek is pretty prestigious
but once again its just a recolor
fierce elm
Thats not counting in the r1 titles
amber heron
why are we even having this conversatoin
hot solstice
+u need myth ansurek
royal flax
Do u know guys by a chance if there is a macro to pop all of my cds? (meaning: Avatar, Roar, Bladestorm, trinket, battle stance)?
I've tried this one but does not work:
#showtooltip
/cast Bladestorm
/cast Avatar
/cast !Berserker Stance
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/use 13
exotic forge
Brother, they released a long boi for 90 bucks in the store, the equivalent of 5 mil back in BfA. That sort of prestige has been lost
fierce elm
Do u know guys by a chance if there is a macro to pop all of my cds? (meaning: A...
GCD brother
What does PvP have in all reality, the old ass 1800 sets for BGB/RBGs along with the titles, r1 titles in 5 brackets, one armor set, two mounts. Temporary titles
Unique recolors on the weapons, an enchant
Cloak, tabard
exotic forge
I can guarantee you that if rated PvP today could award you with old elite pvp sets (with enough effort, of course) more people would be doing the content
boreal veldt
Do u know guys by a chance if there is a macro to pop all of my cds? (meaning: A...
#showtooltip
/cast !Berserker Stance
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/use 13
this will work but not with bladestorm
fierce elm
If we don't count recolors we can remove the weapons+armor set and technically glad mount this season too
exotic forge
More so if there was a glad mount recolor from Shuffle/Blitz
rancid granite
I can guarantee you that if rated PvP today could award you with old elite pvp s...
such a strange thing to me, the WoW playerbase and the need for pvp rewards lol
royal flax
#showtooltip
/cast !Berserker Stance
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/use 13
...
thank you for that
exotic forge
^^
fierce elm
You perform better at work in order to gain a pay increase
You workout to get the reward of having a better body and more healthy living
Everything is reward-based
boreal veldt
such a strange thing to me, the WoW playerbase and the need for pvp rewards lol
it's an mmo, everything is reward based
rancid granite
i mean in LoL it's just rank title; so it'd be the equivalent of a WoW title right
exotic forge
Everything that people do is to get something out of it
fierce elm
Its not just rank title in league
rancid granite
so i get high pvp rank getting a title
fierce elm
Its rank+border+profile picture+skin+skin chroma
and each bracket gives another chroma
rancid granite
oh true
fierce elm
Everything is rewards based
rancid granite
the rank boarder
fierce elm
Then challenger gets a special recall
rancid granite
well i can't say i've seen anyone care about any of it anyway, other than being able to say 'im plat' 'im dia'
fierce elm
League is also a much more casual game if we want to really make comparisons
jovial torrent
they reecently changed it so every rank gets a recolour of the ranked free skin that split
rancid granite
like if you took away the things you listed no one would care
fierce elm
It requires a lot less effort to get into compared to WoW PvP, which is just how the game works honestly
They also have a huge established playerbase with one gamemode
really
WoW is split over so many different playstyles and modes
fierce elm
Personally just getting rank in league is enough for me
Because its the one thing you can do if you wanna be a lil sweaty nerd
in WoW I can just go and farm old raids for mounts lmao
fierce elm
They gotta invest into Solo shuffle honestly
jovial torrent
i feel like ppl need to stop using its a mmo as a crutch excuse, pvp shouldnt be treated the same as a pve mmo
fierce elm
They could also bring out the 5v5 mode and introduce duo if they wanna push it
green wharf
but are those as prestigious
fierce elm
Blitz should also honestly allow two dps to queue and not be limited
They just need to heavily invest into Solo because 3s is going to remain dead outside of those that want to play with friends and get glad mount this season
boreal veldt
i feel like ppl need to stop using its a mmo as a crutch excuse, pvp shouldnt be...
you might be asking for an entirely different game, or arena servers
jovial torrent
pvpers arent really playing the same game imo
fierce elm
They really aren't
green wharf
from my understanding, in pvp, they should have done:
- if you reach X rank in the current season, you can buy rewards from the same rank in previous season
would give more people incentive to play
fierce elm
Most people I know that do PvP on a relatively serious level has always stuck to PvP
green wharf
and stop this fomo shit
hot solstice
idk I just want play game and not be looking whole evening for 3s push on 2200 mmr....I already have 3 warriors with same mmr...dont wanna make 4th
fierce elm
only branching out this season
sharp meteor
and stop this fomo shit
Nah, need more fomo and seasonal goodies
esp for playing alts
fierce elm
idk I just want play game and not be looking whole evening for 3s push on 2200 m...
unfortunately thats just 3s
green wharf
Nah, need more fomo and seasonal goodies
rancid granite
idk I just want play game and not be looking whole evening for 3s push on 2200 m...
you mean long queue times?
jovial torrent
i like to play multispec and pvp, blizz has been really bad the past few expansions with adding systems which made it impossible to actually play pvp at a high lvl and pve at the same time
exotic forge
Fomo kills the incentive to play imo
jovial torrent
bfa, azerite necklace, legion the weps + legendaries, shadowlands covenants
rancid granite
warband helps that in a way
fierce elm
BfA was arguably the best expansion for this in the earlier patches
jovial torrent
yeh this season has been really good, ive got the elite set on 4 chars so far
4 diff classes*
jovial torrent
just a shame they fumbled participation with crushed mmr and lack of rewards in solo
and bad balancing
green wharf
i liked WoD system more
fierce elm
BfA for the first 2 patches was a goated PvP expansion dont @ me
The conq gear was huge in PvE, trinkets that PvE people wanted
allowing you to do both
green wharf
then you got Legion, garbage
fierce elm
Shadowlands was also pretty good allowing you to do both but only on one character lmao
jovial torrent
shadowlands was good if u were more interested in just pvp
boreal veldt
fuck bfa with their titanforged crap
farming titanforged geti for 3 seasons 
jovial torrent
cus of free high ilvl gear
exotic forge
Legion had pvpers do pve content
jovial torrent
some of the trinkets in shadowlands were stupid tho lol
exotic forge
What a time that was
jovial torrent
i really want them to add solo shuffle to classic wow, id kill to play solo shuffle mop
green wharf
it had those random legendaries drop as well
i never dropped my bis one
dogshit system
green wharf
and i went to raidfarm legion a lot to get transmog
jovial torrent
i honestly might play mop arena even if its using shit lfg to get the wep enchant and Challenge mode gear
il just play the most braindead easy class to hit 2200 or whatever u need
fierce elm
Then just replay every expansion with that character kek
because nothing transfers over
sick
jovial torrent
im willing to bet big money when classic is done we will be able to transfer chars
lavish quest
Nah, need more fomo and seasonal goodies
One of the many reasons we can't trust furries
jovial torrent
honestly id be suprised if they went past mop classic
exotic forge
im willing to bet big money when classic is done we will be able to transfer cha...
Someone screencap this lol
fierce elm
Lets see, WoD, Legion, BfA, SL, TWW, Midnight, boom boom boom
jovial torrent
i can kind of see them skipping wod to do legion classic then stop
green wharf
MOP was the last great expansion
sharp meteor
One of the many reasons we can't trust furries
Reason to queue and play now is sick.
spice hornet
Mop wasn’t that good
boreal veldt
WoD classic but all content released day 1
exotic forge
MOP was the last great expansion
*Legion
spice hornet
WoD classic but all content released day 1
So nothing?
sharp meteor
Everybody just wants game changed so they have to play less or not at all
boreal veldt
So nothing?
sharp meteor
press q
green wharf
WoD they cut in half, it would only work if they actually release all the unfinished content
sharp meteor
should always be encouraged to press q
sharp meteor
but right now pressing q is often trolling
spice hornet
Think they’ll re-release the Twitter integration?
green wharf
it add braindead dh
exotic forge
nah, fuck legion
spice hornet
And the selfie cam
fierce elm
should always be encouraged to press q
30 minute queues got me thinking about playing Runescape
jovial torrent
if legion released with the end of expac legendary drop style and fix the putting points into wep it would actually be a crazy good expac
exotic forge
if legion released with the end of expac legendary drop style and fix the puttin...
This tbh
spice hornet
Lfm maw of souls +8 spam
boreal veldt
Lfm maw of souls +8 spam
my whole guild chat
exotic forge
i ain't goin back to maw of souls
Oh it's not like it has a bis trinket that instantly gives you a 15% increase to secondary stats and can proc multiple buffs at the same time
spice hornet
Maw of souls spam was better than spamming mythic island expeditions for neck level
jovial torrent
lol the titanforge world quest trinket
spice hornet
Island expeditions were fucking trash
jovial torrent
i wish i got the season 2 bfa elite sets, but season 1 was so boring got burned
exotic forge
Titanforging was really bad. Satisfactory but really bad rng wise
spice hornet
Yeah if they had reforging it would’ve felt better. Getting a TF on a ring with awful stats was the worst
As they have no primary stats
fierce elm
yknow what would be cool, if a PvP world quest could become open so I can get warmode gear
lavish quest
How bad should I feel for having a good time on BM?
wheat jay
Afro
green wharf
wpvp have being shit for a while too
lavish quest
My gear level rises, my DPS lead increases
wheat jay
You do know every wq gives bloody tokens, right?
fierce elm
wtf
lavish quest
No, he doesn't
fierce elm
They do? lmao
boreal veldt
You do know every wq gives bloody tokens, right?
let the boy learn
lavish quest
Afro sucks at this game
fierce elm
What the fuck THEY DO
lavish quest
They do? lmao
If you do it in WM 100x tokens
green wharf
legit clueless
fierce elm
yo wtf lmao
Bro I don't play this game
I just queue arena
Yall lying
I aint falling for this
boreal veldt
Shit he's onto us
boreal veldt
we do gaslight afro on days ending in Y so
green wharf
i only do wq with gold
lavish quest
Afro is legit special ain't he
fierce elm
bro I dont do world quests man
lavish quest
You ever notice when you do the WQ for 500 tokens, you actually get 600?
fierce elm
no lmao
lavish quest
Ever wonder why
fierce elm
I never did it because I only did sparks quest
boreal veldt
bro I dont do world quests man
not even accidentally?
fierce elm
because it was enough to cap
lavish quest
Go WQ in WM between queues
lavish quest
That means there's SO MANY tokens to get
fierce elm
or I just afk jump around in dornogal
wheat jay
How smooth is your brain?
Bro you could see your reflection on his brain
rancid granite
bro I dont do world quests man
wth get questing/delveing to learn your class
fierce elm
naa I just go into queue
bought full honor, immediately queued lmao
the best way to learn
lavish quest
Like a true multi 1200
fierce elm
wtf im HIGHER RATING THAN YOU
rancid granite
i guess it can work as outlaw
lavish quest
Prove it
fierce elm
Have done it on every character I have PvPed on
hit max level
buy full honor
ARENA
lavish quest
I play ret at a higher MMR than you
fierce elm
lmao
lavish quest
Git gud
fierce elm
Ret? Walked into arena, Warrior? Walked into Arena, Mage? Same, Outlaw? Same, WW? Same
I just walk in and hope for the best
fierce elm
I just int someone for like 50 games until I figure shit out
First season I barely get like 1900 on a character, next season hit 2.4
repeat
lavish quest
I just realized, that blitz is uber easy 1800 for every class but warrior for some reason
So this is how I'm getting sets now I guess
lavish quest
On war, I could go in, be top dam by 50%, had the most bases assaulted
Don't matter, still lose
Ret, I just derp around, press eternal flame every once and a while, ez 2600 MMR
WW, unga bunga, ez 2700 MMR
I don't get it
fierce elm
You just suck at warrior tbh
lavish quest
War, become the god of war, still get farmed
Bro, all you can do as war is dmg
Have to rely on others to actually play
Other classes... I have... tools
It's crazy
hot solstice
I play ret at a higher MMR than you
lavish quest
https://tenor.com/view/you-have-no-power-here-lotr-the-lord-of-the-rings-gandalf...
I do against the ret 😎
green wharf
I just realized, that blitz is uber easy 1800 for every class but warrior for so...
right, i got easily 1800 on my hunter, with mm and BM, and 1950 on my warlock
on my warrior was a damn chore
i had to get on shuffle
boreal veldt
i do fine in blitz when i high roll good team and healers
if not, gg, go again
sometimes just good healers carry a whole blitz
what helps in teamfights in blitz is actually pinging the go target imo
green wharf
Just play shuffle as war
i did got 1854 in shuffle, but i give up, cause i only get queed into hell lobbies with evokers, frost mages and BMs
fucking frost isnt even the most broken
and people still pick it
smh
jovial torrent
evokers are so stupid in shuffle, being immune to cc for 30 secs/3 cc's is so huge
rancid granite
what helps in teamfights in blitz is actually pinging the go target imo
i just made a macro for this 🙏
green wharf
evokers are so stupid in shuffle, being immune to cc for 30 secs/3 cc's is so hu...
its such a dumb skill
green wharf
i discovered the other day that evokers can fucking drift with the flight in pvp
got one stunning people behind the pillar and fly back
lavish quest
I just kill the mages when I see them in shuffle
If they play mage, I know they're a bad player
serene kestrel
If they play mage, I know they're a bad player
this checks out
spare cipher
I just kill the mages when I see them in shuffle
baseg
green wharf
I just kill the mages when I see them in shuffle
cant kill what you cant hit
fire and arcane is fair game
lavish quest
So hit them
lavish quest
Ya just kinda hit something else then smack em when they get close
At least until you hit a real rating, they're all idiots
green wharf
why a mage would get close to you
lavish quest
Because they're all idiots
rancid granite
i didn't understand all the BM is broken talk til i gained a bit of rating lmao
turns out they do dmg AND can kite
green wharf
i won a few times against BM with thane, i felt the tclap slow affected the pets well
jovial torrent
ye bm is alright
copper fox
I got strategist on fury today and it was honestly the most miserable grind
I’ve ever done in wow
PvP wise
copper fox
Bgb title
Literally all luck solo qing
Whether my comp > theirs
Ended 2497 and I’m never qing bgb again lmfao
green wharf
damn
wheat jay
Bruh
The only title worth farming in pvp is gladiator
Cuz you get a mount
Albeit ugly xD
copper fox
Dw I’m never doing this again
hasty pulsar
sorry if this is asked before/ a lot but where do you see this information wins and losses etc
copper fox
hasty pulsar
ty
green wharf
@urban skiff jut destroyed an enh as warlock, dead spec, tis joever
twice, didnt even use a defensive
hasty pulsar
why is troll not considered that good for pvp, less time on roots and crap and a mini lust ability
hasty pulsar
right i get that
fierce elm
So that is why
fierce elm
lmao
hasty pulsar
but feel like troll could be sort of underrated
or has this argument already been over and done with by now
i guess it has
fierce elm
Game has been out for years
racials haven't changed much
Orc stun reduction is amazing, Gnome root break is amazing
hasty pulsar
ya I guess the 3 min cd on troll racial isnt helping it either
whats the cd on gnome racial anyway
hasty pulsar
my god
rancid granite
only people named chad
fierce elm
Gnome players are wack
green wharf
i think someone made some math™, and troll racial was better than gnome in some cases
where the combat was too long
but that almost never happen
fierce elm
Someone can math all they want but gnome racial is gonna be more realistic good
Personally would never play a Gnome
green wharf
math = real bro
green wharf
Personally would never play a Gnome
blood token from wq
fierce elm
lies
copper fox
Hi. So as a 2.4+ troll warrior. I can say the troll racial is useless 99% of the time because in this version of wow you’re slowed nearly 100% of the time
They’re auto applied for the most part
plush cairn
the haste?
green wharf
Hi. So as a 2.4+ troll warrior. I can say the troll racial is useless 99% of the...
that sucks
but dont worry blizz revised some racials
of course they buffed the alreay strong void elf one
rancid granite
bring back human increased stealth detection
fierce elm
no you shut up RIGHT NOW
rancid granite
i'll do no such thing
copper fox
the haste?
No the shuffle racial
fallen solar
Anyone a jewlcrafter here? I would like to know how to increase the skill to make the quality gold. Im guessing its spending knowledge points
boreal veldt
execute, executed people
insane ask
a wild take
you're saying that a 40 rage execute should do more damage than a 20 rage slam
green wharf
i know it sound crazy, but its in the name of the skill
in a serious note
i think execute should traight up ignore shields, absorbs and similar, like the monk bubble
it would deal "true damage"
if dude have 150hp, and execute does 200hp, but he have a 500hp shield
you just execute the fucker
green wharf
turn juggernaut into that talent
green wharf
these mythic players are too snob to accept anything different
boreal veldt
it's wild
green wharf
they think they are the bellybutton of wow
boreal veldt
prot warr execute still executes so thats nice
1h weapon execute hitting harder than 2 2handers
the dream class fantasy
i'll not forget this season where they basically deleted execute from arms colossus' bar outside of SD proc
green wharf
even with SD would you use?
losing rage from a MS
at least with fury execute give you rage
boreal veldt
if MS&OP is on cd yes
green wharf
legit arms design is so bad
i feel like arms is the same spec since wod, but worse each expansion
only new thing we got was the crap spear
boreal veldt
they've added more modifiers every expac since
and it keeps feeling worse and worse
slow solstice
these mythic players are too snob to accept anything different
i think every player hates jugg
every week in arms its shoot jugg
boreal veldt
good
green wharf
prot execute does 1 million damage btw
sometimes more
slow solstice
ik
green wharf
bro, i critted for 1 million and 700k on my bloodthirst
slow solstice
i havent checked when im fully buffed
green wharf
i cannot crack 800 on execute
boreal veldt
im hitting 550 full rage exe and 535 slams lmfao
of course colossus crits are absurd so all of those are 1mil+
green wharf
slow solstice
what does your damage breakdown look like for fury
ramp like 20% then execute bs bt?
green wharf
i dunno, but i think execute is pretty low for me
you dont press unless you proc SD
with my build its better to do bloodthirst
50% more damage, sometime you proc 2 for free with no cd
its sweet
slow solstice
ive been pressing execute at 3 mfe or 2 sd
or if im at 5 stacks of jugg i go ramp exe ramp exe
green wharf
i was coercerd to try sub from people here, but damn, outlaw mog is just too chad
, that blade for hand is too dope
urban skiff
<@205395474784583681> jut destroyed an enh as warlock, dead spec, tis joever
Fuck yeah
urban skiff
i i killed the shammy though <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
You played a c tier spec and took down a beastly tripple S spec.
You should feel good about yourself
green wharf
You played a c tier spec and took down a beastly tripple S spec.
You should fee...
triple S where
maybe a+
hasty pulsar
Time remains undefeated
green wharf
it feels like warrior is the 60 year dude
and other classes are in their prime 20/30s
verbal tangle
cant win against age
let's not lie, they both fought well
green wharf
let's not lie, they both fought well
tyson did not fight well after the first round
verbal tangle
if Paul wasn't as fast as he was he would have been one shot
green wharf
he was not moving
dude is old
slow reflexes
took some punches he would not have
not saying jake is bad, but Tyson could not put a tyon fight
verbal tangle
but let's not pretend that Tyson could have one-tapped Paul if he was sower
hasty pulsar
Yeah his legs and movement were much worse
hasty pulsar
2024 Tyson is like arms execute. Prot warr execute is like 1986 Tyson
verbal tangle
ye
hasty pulsar
They need to make execute great again
green wharf
but let's not pretend that Tyson could have one-tapped Paul if he was sower
if he was what
verbal tangle
if he was what
slower
green wharf
i mean, he could
verbal tangle
Paul was dancing around because if he got hit enough he was fucking gonzo
green wharf
he have the strenght, just not the stamina
i think he was already coming from an injury
his punches were off balance, without the legs the punche dont go 100%
boreal veldt
we all knew it was gonna be a trash fight
made 50 bucks calling the exact outcome though
urban skiff
goddamit tyson lost
Paid to throw
boreal veldt
that was a dancing with the stars episode
urban skiff
There's a reason Paul won't fight active boxers. And it's not that he's too good. That means he's not good enough.
Everyone knew this was going to be an out of shape rich kid paying to beat up an old man.
green wharf
There's a reason Paul won't fight active boxers. And it's not that he's too good...
an injured old man
hasty pulsar
I mean I really do wonder just how much throwing goes on in the history of boxing
Obviously the history of it all is there but also hard to exactly say
urban skiff
I mean I really do wonder just how much throwing goes on in the history of boxin...
It can only be more than we think
I honestly think sports is ripe with throwing. There's probably some in football too
There's nothing easier than seducing a greedy man
urban skiff
The legend, mr Bless, has fallen
boreal veldt
my mmr was fuked
but also i've low rolled the absolute worst teams
and it is to be frank, the healers
green wharf
I seriouslly dont understand
how feral can go bear
and become immortal in bgs
honestly
boreal veldt
thats a phys wall, we all phys babyee
it's a wizard's game and we just got big sords
fierce elm
You will be fine
More to keep track off than warrior
You can absolutely do more than warrior in every gamemode
plush cairn
i played warrior for 5seasons
still gonna be my main
but i wanna try something else lol
lavish quest
Only 5 seasons? Weak
plush cairn
new player
xD
my first char
nah wait my first char was hunter
then bought SL and boosted warr
exotic forge
A warrior is for life
plush cairn
got 40k honor to spend atleast so should have full honor gear instantly on a few alts
2s or 3s for conq?
wheat jay
unless the reason for their domination according to skillcapped isn't "playing for 18 hours a day for 15 years" then they're cappin' XD
rancid granite
lol that was my first thought
wheat jay
legit xD
they have like 20k games each season
lmao
dh in comp stomp has kickable eye beam xD
green wharf
1700 rated
cant say he isn't a consistent player
slow solstice
what would be to good play with resto druid and fury
lavish quest
BM, replace resto with hpal, and fuck it, replace fury with a 2nd BM
wheat jay
it is
jovial torrent
pve has wiggle room, i think m+ mount is easily doable by like the top 30% of playerbase, where as pvp mount atm is like top 3%
and its a smaller player pool so that 3% of pvpers would be less than top 3% of pve
green wharf
i will also say its easier to beat a.i than other players
rancid granite
@fierce elm @urban skiff i tilted back down to like 1600 on sub rogue so i guess ill go back to playing the inhouse assa
you guys can have outlaw and sub 😭
urban skiff
<@144859308557860864> <@205395474784583681> i tilted back down to like 1600 on s...
What makes you think I'll do any better on rogue?
rancid granite
youll have more resilience sticking with it i think
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> <@205395474784583681> i tilted back down to like 1600 on s...
its a solo shuffle race rn
sub, assa and outlaw
first to hit 2100 has a huge wang
rancid granite
dense herald
I keep going like 5-1 then 1-5
rancid granite
i feel like im on a warrior when i vs these caster comps
dense herald
Help
fierce elm
i feel like im on a warrior when i vs these caster comps
Im huge vibing vs every caster
Quad melee fucks me though
rancid granite
4x hookshot sounds like it'd help vs them yeah lol
popping your burst cooldowns just to get cc'd for 15 seconds hurts
especially on sub since thats the job of sub
fierce elm
Thats fair
Outlaw just has CDs constantly
so being ccd during them doesnt hurt as much
15% more damage taken on like a 20s cooldown, adrenaline rush is like a minute
urban skiff
first to hit 2100 has a huge wang
Not me. I always stop at 1800 so I don't have to be confronted with a plateau. At 1800 I can still imagine being a 3k player. I won't have to find out I'm a 1801 player.
jovial torrent
honestly in melee cleave matches might be worth training healer alot , just to avoid that cleave dmg @fierce elm , could probs get some dirty restealths too
jovial torrent
nice, im still so torn, i always loved assassination as it was my first real pve main but wotlk was a long time ago, just annoying u dont get enough tokens to buy a sword and two daggers
maybe il buy 2 daggers and a blood token sword/fist wep or somthing
river walrus
Watch echo come back from lower bracket and win still
hot solstice
how much for that bike on eu?
40 something bucks?
guess who is writing another post on twitter about nerfing ele
wheat jay
Nice feral diff lol
hot solstice
wtf
fierce elm
40 something bucks?
20-30 on ebay
spice hornet
I’ll get it for eu turds if they pay for the cost of the Mountain Dew or whatever and +$5
jovial torrent
im tempted, i havent used paypal or anything like that in aaages tho will have to recover my pass
swift folio
only started to pvp recently this season is fury still the go to ?
kind sentinel
Naw arms is viable
fickle forge
only started to pvp recently this season is fury still the go to ?
Yes
boreal veldt
only started to pvp recently this season is fury still the go to ?
Fury is ahead of arms by a fair margin, both viable
graceful locust
any suggestions for going up against an ele 1v1? Was just getting rooted/slowed and gapped nonstop
boreal veldt
any suggestions for going up against an ele 1v1? Was just getting rooted/slowed ...
best 1v1 advice is usually "don't"
graceful locust
That's what I'm gathering, happens sometimes in blitz though
boreal veldt
unless you're babysitting a flag/cart cap and need to hold your ground, better off just abandoning ship to run toward team mates
exotic forge
any suggestions for going up against an ele 1v1? Was just getting rooted/slowed ...
Pray
boreal veldt
any suggestions for going up against an ele 1v1? Was just getting rooted/slowed ...
but, best advice, interrupt, be aware where you're gonna get knocked to, kill static & caps, save stun and fear for their go not yours and keep ham up
spiral ridge
Hey, new to pvp, it's high value to break 4P for 2 more pvp gear ?
vapid tartan
any suggestions for going up against an ele 1v1? Was just getting rooted/slowed ...
Kill static and totems of wrath, fear+stun them on ascendance and be ready to charge or leap insta if they go for a knock
boreal veldt
laros on fury in awc, lfg
graceful locust
ok, thanks guys. Yeah I just kept getting gapped even after using both charges and leap
ebon shale
Kill static and totems of wrath, fear+stun them on ascendance and be ready to ch...
That’s a pretty swell profile pic
fierce elm
Hey, new to pvp, it's high value to break 4P for 2 more pvp gear ?
What does this mean
Like breaking PvE ilvl stuff for PvP stuff? Always worth unless that PvE thing is 639
verbal tangle
Hey, new to pvp, it's high value to break 4P for 2 more pvp gear ?
You can catalyze pvp gear to be tier+pvp scaling
warm thistle
Getting tired of this grind lol. Every time I get close to 1800 I end up in a losing streak. Still on one for blitz as well🫠
boreal veldt
What pvp talent you guys like taking for bgs?
what spec
stark agate
fury
verbal tangle
What pvp talent you guys like taking for bgs?
Barbarian
boreal veldt
fury
battle trance is good for teamfights to stay alive, warbringer is nice for rooting certain go targets, i personally like deathwish for when i initially open for pressure
go in with 5 stack, let it fall off after you pop CDs
but i'm used to gimmick strats cause i play colossus
if you're on D on a flag carry map you can actually drop slaughterhouse
big IF
spice hornet
Warbringer dead talent
I’ve seen people play that leap talent and death wish in bgs for sure
But mostly everything is useless. Battle trance is occasionally played
boreal veldt
Warbringer dead talent
wild take my brotha
sharp meteor
missing when it did damagurs
spice hornet
missing when it did damagurs
also isn't it buggy? or at least it was in DF launch, did they ever fix that?
boreal veldt
to call it a dead talent in any situation is wild
spice hornet
having 1 random niche usage in blitz (that probably isn't even good or game changing in anyway) usually means a talent is dead
boreal veldt
1 sec root
2sec
boreal veldt
1 extra sec for 2 y
2y?
sharp meteor
yes*
spice hornet
its bad lol, never seen a warrior play it since they nerfed it in SL, I watch Laros/Blizo/JoeFernan/Mag stream occasionally and they never play it either
sharp meteor
ive tried it into a few "maybe rooting them a bit more would be good" situations and meh
boreal veldt
getting free 2sec uptime on a wizard dominated season
sharp meteor
"free"
spice hornet
enduring rage is way better
fierce elm
Warbringer is a meme
spice hornet
mage is not dying in a warbringer root
pretty sure they will just displace with it on them anyway
and youre back to the same situation
boreal veldt
uptime =/= dying
mage isn't dying on any charge
and even then i'd agree enduring is better into a mage
but to say it is a dead talent
is wild
rancid granite
im surprised it doesn't get rematched or paused
saw laros win one vs non afk though
💪
rancid granite
good choice friend
sharp meteor
Off DR stuns 
sharp meteor
Do you ever use heroic throw?
Not really.
There's taunt for putting people in combat, especially rogues/druids.
and it's off global
sharp meteor
actually not sure after the changes
probs worth pressng if u got nothin else
usually its like ms/op/execute or maintain hamstring and ignore pain
green wharf
og slam user ^
short arms
rancid granite
everyone always says warrior lacks mobility
'cant reach my target'
how do you think buff-bugs feels
green wharf
'cant reach my target'
imagine using a 2h weapon
and not having a bigger reach
than those with lil daggers
rancid granite
lol
when they got rid of rogues acrobatic strikes or w/e
they shoulda given it to US
green wharf
they shoulda given it to US
the US dont need more militar power
you and your american drones
rancid granite
exotic forge
Do you use it as filler inbetween like mortal strike cd
Use it for Tactician procs
It hits as hard as Overpower lol
spare cipher
tactician procs?
exotic forge
When Overpower is on cd, you either use MS if it's off cd or Slam if both are on cd
stark agate
does enduring rage free you from roots/snares
pure jay
hello, im currently giving fury a try for rated bgs and im kinda happy with it, but a few minutes ago I played against another fury who just did sooo much more dmg (im in 637pvp gear rn), he critted my heal for 1.3 -1.8M dmg with execute as slayer. The most I did was 650k with what I thought is the same gear. 30%mastery 26% versa currently, switching from pve pieces
is there some wierd stuff going on or how are those high numbers possible
(I got crit for 1.3 too)*
stark agate
hello, im currently giving fury a try for rated bgs and im kinda happy with it, ...
slayer strike stacks, avatar/reck into execute. 1.2 mil + is pretty standard when that crits
green wharf
prob buff from other player as well
bg a lot of buff stacking can give you crazy numbers
there is a talent that increase execute damage once you use it, so it can stack a lot
boreal veldt
How about slam?
if you play colossus, slam effectively replaces execute
and i don't like talking about it
rancid granite
execute just an MS buff
boreal veldt
i stopped running exe preci and improved exe 2 weeks ago
it's nerfed to shit in pvp anyway
stark agate
once you go fury you never go back
rancid granite
I went back
but when conq uncaps I might stack mast gear and go back again
which may be this week?
stark agate
hopefully, I regret getting 4 piece on fury. I realized a bit late it's not really doing much
green wharf
its doing good on my thane build 
stark agate
mods, twist his balls
green wharf
another way fury its just better than arms: you can go to old raid to farm mog
and whirlwing/tclap your way without stopping
but arms need rage to use then
what a shitass spec
or when you can stand a flag and do that to find stealth people
boreal veldt
fury spams ww in old raids
arms pulls the whole raid 1 time
prot kills things without using abilities
stark agate
is enhance a good target?
green wharf
arms pulls the whole raid 1 time
doesnt feel as good
Cleave should not consume rage, like whirlind doesn't
dunno why this discrepancy between then
even execute, fury generate rage, and arms consume
wtf
boreal veldt
it's weird but i think its just that fury is always mad so everything makes them mad
like even using abilities is fuckin annoying so they gen rage
Arms: "Yes using execute now is a prime use of my energy."
Fury: "HOW'RE YOU NOT DEAD, FFS"
green wharf
it's weird but i think its just that fury is always mad so everything makes them...
dont reason with their bad design, you are giving then strenght brother
#armsrework
boreal veldt
dont reason with their bad design, you are giving then strenght brother
agreed
sleek wave
I'm torn between haste or mastery stacking for fury. its mix on murlock. Should have just crafted everything so i can change my stats on the fly lol. Any thoughts? seems like haste seems more fluid
sleek wave
2.4k pushable? shuffle
green wharf
i mean if you are good
spiral ridge
4p Fury is really so Bad ?
lavish quest
Stats on the gear you'd have to take to get it is not worth the bonus
Head and legs stats are decent, so we run those and at least get 2 set
spice hornet
4p Fury is really so Bad ?
It wucks
torn moss
what would the better gamemode be for someone whos trying out pvp for the first time?
dense herald
what would the better gamemode be for someone whos trying out pvp for the first ...
Rerolling
Uhhh play whatever you like but i feel like 2s can be a good place to start
fickle forge
what would the better gamemode be for someone whos trying out pvp for the first ...
Raiding
pure widget
is it best to craft 1 2h and use 1 free one?
dense herald
is it best to craft 1 2h and use 1 free one?
Thats what ppl did but now u get 2 2h free
We didnt know that
But now u have a ton of conquest idk if it matters that much anymore
proper cosmos
is the general rule Slayer = Haste, Colusus = Mastery?
proper cosmos
Is there a break point for colusus before switching to mastery? or just hard haste
pure widget
seems like some people go way more haste than others
fierce elm
Who si this CHAD warrior with this name in SS
wheat jay
Who si this CHAD warrior with this name in SS
Dailyshuffle on alt?
urban skiff
What did you play? Rogue? Pal?
urban skiff
I need some guidance on how to play sub i bgb
urban skiff
boutta break 1800 on outlaw soon
Man I'm losing the race before even ready to run
urban skiff
For some maps sure. But what about ctf?
urban skiff
Me too
fierce elm
hence outlaw
urban skiff
But tbh on sham i don't brawl much.
I pick 1v2 or 1v3 fights i can win though
Thunderstorm is just amazing like that
green wharf
Sub fucking BLOWS
rly, it feels like sub does some absurd damage with the burst
proper cosmos
Sub in CTF I usually chase down whoever is trying to run to the flag
proper cosmos
Or pick off people in team fights
fierce elm
Have trinket for it and you live every time lmao
lavish quest
For some maps sure. But what about ctf?
You kill efc
urban skiff
You kill efc
But I can't duel the efc
lavish quest
You kill anyways
jovial torrent
rogue is a nightmare to go against in blitz if they are duo with a healer, just shadowstep back up to roof, amazing at returning flags too since u can just stealth upto and bomb the fc
spare cipher
if I have thunder clap, I don't use rend right?
fierce elm
affirmative
spare cipher
Trying to figure out keybinds
dense herald
and thunderclap slows so thats a plus no?
tc is more rage and does more damage
more rage = more op procs
spare cipher
At least from the tooltip thunderclap does less damage than rend
and it costs same rage
exotic forge
It's better than pressing Rend. It's an aoe, it will hit. Rend can be dodged, blocked or parried
spare cipher
Yeah
One more thing
When you start fighting
How do you fill up rage quickly?
Or do you just ramp up the pressure and start off with rend slows etc?
exotic forge
I always start with applying Rend, slow, then MS and send it from there
spare cipher
Whats the macro to switch stances?
rancid granite
Whats the macro to switch stances?
#showtooltip
/use [stance:2] !Defensive Stance
/use [spec:2,nostance:2] !Berserker Stance
/use [spec:1/3,nostance:2] !Battle Stance
exotic forge
There it is
fierce elm
long ass macro
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Defensive Stance; Battle Stance
should also work
but I cant test lmao
assuming you are arms
spare cipher
I just put the one Aatos sent, it works
It's also good if I switch specs or something since it'll work with berserker too
fierce elm
smh just become a spec one-trick
spare cipher
Well originally I wanted to run prot in bgs and 3s but I'd need to be a good player to make that work
green wharf
tc is more rage and does more damage
rend does more damage than tclap for arms
and the slow doest stack with harmstring
fierce elm
Its very simple, hitting rend sucks, hitting TC looks cool as fuck
exotic forge
It's all about applying Rend, not worrying about which ability does more dmg
urban skiff
Starting to POWER up <@205395474784583681> just had my first 5-1
did you get it yet?
urban skiff
#showtooltip
/use [stance:2] !Defensive Stance
/use [spec:2,nostance:2] !Berserk...
oh hey that's my macro
fierce elm
did you get it yet?
1784
fierce elm
how much conq you need now afro
Like 2k for full gear
ish
But thats replacing bloody token piece+trinkets
Need a 4-2 or a 5-1 for 1800 and I can be done with SS on rogue
then level warrior and do the same
urban skiff
man I'm close on my sham like that too
spare cipher
Any tips for how to turn off battlegroundenemies for epic bgs?
wheat jay
fair xD
fierce elm
Wonder what spec my friend will annoy me into playing next because he said Ret paladin was easy
fierce elm
Look man
wheat jay
I dare you
fierce elm
As for actual like 'playing' time maybe like 7-8 hours
Im thinking about doing a ranged spec next
BM hunter 🤔
lavish quest
Eyyo, 1784 is respectable. Think of the zerchers or others here down in those dumps lol
lavish quest
I gotta hit 2.4 as well. But I figure why rush it now and not wait for ez inflate
fierce elm
2.5 the season after kek
wheat jay
So
wheat jay
BM hunter 🤔
Do survi
fierce elm
Warrior was the only one to go from 0xp to 2.6 immediately
wheat jay
Or you have weak aura
lavish quest
Why play SV when you could BM on the same class?
fierce elm
Also that
Wish they would lift transmog limitations on weapons
let me transmog my dagger into a fist weapon already
lavish quest
Run around never having to stop, 40 yds away, out dpsing everyone in honor gear
Just don't use daggers
Seems ez
lavish quest
Wtf u using daggers for anyways? Outlaw doesn't use em
wheat jay
I'm fairly sure you can do double thunder fury
fierce elm
but I want one big weapon one smol weapon
because with an enchant it looks like I am throwing sand from off-hand
and fits my pirate theme
lavish quest
Don't be a meta slave
wheat jay
Ah yes
lavish quest
Just use double sword
wheat jay
https://tenor.com/view/dale-gribble-king-of-the-hill-pocket-sand-take-that-in-your-face-gif-17599036
fierce elm
I just gear up with whatever murlok says kek
Some nerd has already calculated everything
wheat jay
I just gear up with whatever murlok says kek
Not smart
lavish quest
I've been farming murloks since vanilla, what do they know?
wheat jay
Cuz there's not enough pvp players to get proper data now
Cuz top 50 players goes down to like 1800 for some specs xD
fierce elm
I mean just look at the top 10
green wharf
Off-hand is a dagger
outlaw use double swords afro
fierce elm
my guy
green wharf
are you high
green wharf
wheat jay
Shit everything
fierce elm
It has something to do with attack speed or some shit for like 0.2% damage or something lmao
urban skiff
Eyyo, 1784 is respectable. Think of the zerchers or others here down in those du...
I'm a dumpster player though
fierce elm
Dagger off hand = more poison procs
wheat jay
And noone is playing for 1800 anymore cuz set sucks
lavish quest
Shit rewards
The big pvp reward blows donkey dicks and can only be gotten in the dead game mode
Who is designing this?
wheat jay
Conq has better color xD
lavish quest
I'm a dumpster player though
There's a lot of those in here, they just aren't self aware. Don't be rude!
wheat jay
Rogue set is growing on me too
Now show me conq color
green wharf
It has something to do with attack speed or some shit for like 0.2% damage or so...
sounds dumb to me, cuz, a sword have more speed and damage, and same dps, but oh well
fierce elm
I like the purple more
lavish quest
Rogue 1800 is worth
fierce elm
sounds dumb to me, cuz, a sword have more speed and damage, and same dps, but oh...
this is why I don't theorycraft of rogues and nor do you lmao
lavish quest
Red uwu
fierce elm
Nerd shit
green wharf
but whats the sense of it, it literally have lower stats in everything
fierce elm
The neat thing is that Elite set can have the glowy effects due to the KSH/2400/Mythic Ansurek thing
lavish quest
The elite sets have the glow effects by default bud...
fierce elm
Literally the same
lavish quest
There ya go
slow solstice
can you not buy an elite set if you got elite on a different class after the xpac?
lavish quest
No
fierce elm
no?
slow solstice
fuck
fierce elm
Elite sets are earned on the class you get it
lavish quest
You have to get 1800 on that class during that season
slow solstice
cringe!
lavish quest
Because the system is dumb
green wharf
Literally the same
lavish quest
As a proud multi 1800. I say let us take us out of our ivory towers and delete fomo on elite sets
fierce elm
Why are oyu showing me the weapons I just posted
green wharf
something isnt right
fierce elm
lmao
lavish quest
There's a disturbance in the force
slow solstice
the depths are calling
fierce elm
Someone has done the theorycrafting, I just follow them
green wharf
then not the same though, more damage, and more peed, whatever that mean
i bet its some bug
fierce elm
all it does is proc poisons more
lavish quest
What about the chadcrafting huh?
lavish quest
When they doing that?
wheat jay
cringe