pvp

[urban skiff]

the honor i make is gold

why waste it if i'm going to replace it

[rancid granite]

chests/dirt mounds in between q of rbgb is what id do

[urban skiff]

I'm gonna craft 2 pieces for double les -> use bloody tokens to get 4set and I guess I can splurge and buy honor trinkets

[rancid granite]

well is what i did do

[spice hornet]

you can get so much bloody token gear atm and then crafted pieces, barely need that much honor and you can win low cr 3s games with like 80% gear

[urban skiff]

so stick to my current plan and alter it maybe when I'm closer to honor ilvl?

[rancid granite]

dont forget to plan for the 1600 armor piece

[hasty pulsar]

anyone know a way to get an extra weapon from achievement i was in arms spec and not fury and missed out on extra weapon

[spice hornet]

you get 2 tokens

[hasty pulsar]

doesnt fury get 4 tokens

[exotic forge]

2

[verbal tangle]

We get discount on 2hs due to Fury

[hasty pulsar]

oh i see, weapons for fury cost 1

i see

yeah damn i messed up then

[verbal tangle]

You do 2h+1h

[urban skiff]

true

[verbal tangle]

Because you craft 2h for Arms/Fury

[hasty pulsar]

yeah but im still missing a free weapon unfortunately

[urban skiff]

we don't craft 2h for arms or fury anymore though

it's a leftover from when people thought weapon embellishment was good

right?

[verbal tangle]

I crafted 2h

[urban skiff]

I didn't

because I'm smort

[verbal tangle]

This is making me want to level scalie woyer more

Prot insta queues w/ Thrash Blade

[boreal veldt]

ye all embellishments are bad, unless you NEED haste/vers 2h, don't craft wep

[urban skiff]

double lens supposedly ripping though

[boreal veldt]

relative to the other embellishments probably

[rancid granite]

its just a ton of conq for a 2h

[exotic forge]

So you're telling me now that I wasted 20k

[urban skiff]

people forget to ask me

[exotic forge]

Do we NEED to ask?

[boreal veldt]

i'm pretty sure we all told you the free wep was fine

[exotic forge]

Shit game dude

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

i certainly did

[rancid granite]

you're gonna be FINE either way

if you crafted 2h, use the tokens on 2h and 1h

boom

set up for arms fury and prot that way

[urban skiff]

pretty much this

[exotic forge]

At this point crafting wep is just min maxing, whatever there is to min max anymore

[fierce elm]

you are screwed

give your account to me

[exotic forge]

[urban skiff]

not really min maxing

more like sidegrade sidegrading

[stark agate]

The more I look at arms keystone talents the more i get upset. We used to have an option to get Recklessness on Colossus Smash as well as 2 bladestorm casts. Now both are just dogshit choices, while Fury has 2 really damn good ones.

[boreal veldt]

he's starting to see

[hasty pulsar]

wat u dont like 8 seconds of sweeping strikes

[green wharf]

cause arms have a rly bad dev

sorry, correcting myself, the war dev is the mage dev, so you get this

[stark agate]

Fury alternates between recklessness and avatar. Arms only gets Avatar.

[boreal veldt]

wait till he realizes you can just build a better arms warrior in fury

[urban skiff]

this is why we play SMF thane

[fierce elm]

can we ban Kargish for dissing my Outlaw rogue

[green wharf]

only if he can diss your paladin

[boreal veldt]

you mispelled "mod Kargish"

[fierce elm]

He disses all of me

He is a hotdog irl

[exotic forge]

Ah, Conq Banner

How I miss you

[boreal veldt]

imagine looking at all 4 of our cool SL abilities and picking arguably the worst one for warriors

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

massacre used to have the condemn animation attached, they gave it away to dks

[exotic forge]

So a 22% strength increase is bad?

[exotic forge]

We still have it. It's brown now tho

[boreal veldt]

sorry i was refering to spear

[hasty pulsar]

so when is our execute animation when we have sweeping strikes up going to come back

used to swing horizontally

[boreal veldt]

real questions

[exotic forge]

Thought so

[hasty pulsar]

is it a bug that its gone or wat

like i miss that a lot

[exotic forge]

It's a visual bug

It's not important

[hasty pulsar]

they need to fix that crap

[exotic forge]

Dw about it

[hasty pulsar]

ok

[exotic forge]

I could say the same thing about undead feet clipping through boots awkwardly but yeah dw about it

[rancid granite]

visuals on warrior is very important

i want flashy things too

[urban skiff]

@rancid granite if my choice is between crit and haste on sub, what do i get

[rancid granite]

👀 what choice is there

the only choice would be set piece right

Subtlety: Vers>Mastery>Crit>Haste

https://murlok.io/rogue/subtlety/solo

yeah more people going 4pc now

but all the gear otherwise pretty unanimous

[fierce elm]

Everyone seems to be going 4pc now lmao

[rancid granite]

it transfers over to assa pretty well too

but outlaw is a whole diff thing 😭

[fierce elm]

Outlaw slaps 4 set too

but we go balanced as fuck apparently

[green wharf]

bro thinking my pixels arent important

[rancid granite]

like certain % crit for BTE stuff and other math

[green wharf]

what the shit

[fierce elm]

its like 18-20% across the board for non-vers seems to be the consensus

[green wharf]

1%?

[rancid granite]

i should try outlaw finally

[fierce elm]

Outlaw is so much fun

[rancid granite]

sub rogue* lol

[cinder thorn]

I like how you are using "we" already

You used to be "we" warriors

Then you "we" paladins

Now you "we" rogues

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

LOL

[fierce elm]

I am still a paladin main big man

Merely fiddling with Outlaw

[rancid granite]

afro zerch and i syncing rogue atm ok

[fierce elm]

yah you have to go assa though

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

[fierce elm]

only spec thats available

[rancid granite]

honor among thieves

i rock assa

[cinder thorn]

rogue has so many buttons to worry about

it puts me off playing

[fierce elm]

naaa

[cinder thorn]

even though I really like it

[fierce elm]

Outlaw is fine

[rancid granite]

assa in rbgb is fun too just bleed everyone and be top kills

[fierce elm]

like 14 buttons in total or something

[rancid granite]

cause you just ks'd everyone with bleeds

assa has less skills than warrior lmao

[fierce elm]

dont even have to keep up Slice and dice anymore

[cinder thorn]

yes but tab bleeding everyone is just so gay

[fierce elm]

Procs passively on combo spender

thats not outlaw

[cinder thorn]

wait it gives you SND on any combo spender?

they will nerf outlaw, its never a good spec in the end

outlaw always gets shafted

they want rogues to be played by skillful players, outlaw everyone and their mum can play it, so they will nerf it

[fierce elm]

Outlaw is hilarious

Using like 6-8 Between the eyes in a row

while stealth

But SND gets given on dispatch combo spender

[cinder thorn]

yes and stupid amount of hooks, they'll nerf it you watch

[fierce elm]

so you keep it up infinitely

Then you just to Between the eyes on burst goes while vanish

Funniest part is the movement all around the map

4 hooks on a 35s cd, speed

[urban skiff]

i suspect someone was first mover and the rest just followed, but that there's no conscious choice made by anyone

[rancid granite]

yeah lol

[urban skiff]

it's uncanny tbh

[rancid granite]

the AWC guys get all the gear they want so they did some testing

[urban skiff]

600ish conq and 2400 bloody tokens farmed today

not bad start

[rancid granite]

and the other nerds just follow their stream

and test 24/7

[urban skiff]

i mean they're missing out on mastery from hat

there's got to be a reason for that

[fierce elm]

Just do your own build smh

[urban skiff]

I am

[fierce elm]

I am currently mythic raiding becase razonko was missing one

I have no idea how I ended up here

[cinder thorn]

where is the SND on Dispatch I cant find it in the talent tree

im at work so not on a wow client

[fierce elm]

Somewhere

idk

Im on paladin

[green wharf]

i honestly cant see how a class function with 1% haste

i mean, is that even possible

i remember barely stacking 8% with fury by stacking mastery

[urban skiff]

I think slicendice + rogue lower GCD compensates

[rancid granite]

dagger offhand etc lol

[urban skiff]

remember rogue and feral are 1 sec gcd baseline

wait, does sub still go double dagger or is offhand a slow 1h now?

[rancid granite]

faster oh the better

procs for talents etc

[urban skiff]

even if offhand is better stat stick?

[rancid granite]

uhh idk

[serene kestrel]

dude theres no way in hell i just lost 200 rating from dcing at the start of a match

[green wharf]

what language are yall speaking

[urban skiff]

I swear i read somewhere that sub goes 2.6 speed offhand for some marginal gains

[fierce elm]

Rogue has a ton of base stuff

So they dont need a ton of haste really

especially sub

like stealth gives 10% haste baseline kek

and sub wants to be in stealth

[rancid granite]

fast oh just procs more stuff 🤷

[fierce elm]

Then add slice n dice on top of that

[dim swallow]

I play fury with a resto sham, how do we with VS BM hunter+healer in 2s?

[fierce elm]

Ya lose

[urban skiff]

play thane

you're still going to lose but you'll annoy him a lot more

this comp stomp is progressing excellently

[hasty pulsar]

lol

[dim swallow]

Alright thanks

[fierce elm]

BM+priest is just WILD

[urban skiff]

what's so wild about them?

[fierce elm]

The pets clearly

[urban skiff]

wildlyfe

[cinder thorn]

BM + Demo lock would be funny

• resto druid heal

treants, imps, and zoo

[urban skiff]

this is comp stomp by the way

[cinder thorn]

wtf u getting owned by bots?

this only happened at pre-expansion release when the bots where tuned for expansion gear pieces that nobody had, you should be smashing them now

[hasty pulsar]

so uhhhh

anyone ever have just an awful day in these battleground blitz queues? like literally lost like 10 matches or some crap today

seemingly just random

like why i win or lose its just a flip of a coin

[dim swallow]

yes sir. We facing hunters and they are amazing...

[dim swallow]

I was in a 20games win streak which is little crazy (for me) as disc priests, something happened during the night 4am, I got into a team with avg 500mmr lower mine, lost that one. Since then im -200 rating and I get 0 rating when I win, - 20 on lose

[hasty pulsar]

yeah dude.. lost like 100 rating

just awful how little agency i feel like i have in these matches tbh

mmr seems like a complete mess from what I gather

[dim swallow]

I tried to recover.. buts its like they put losers into 1 team

and I cant win the game alone if not a monk

[urban skiff]

you need to recognize earlier when the day is bad

[hasty pulsar]

you can say that again

like today has just been awful.. needed to stop

i know now I guess

[urban skiff]

I only play during specific days and hours because that's when all the tired dads play after work

I mean I am one too, but

[hasty pulsar]

not sure I think rbgb is a success tbh

its just awful

[storm egret]

Chad shit

Imagine you come home from a 9-9 shift

Your wife hits you a few times

[hasty pulsar]

lol

[storm egret]

Your children are asshats

You get on wow for your sole relief in life

And you get pwn’d by fucking Zercher

[hasty pulsar]

XD'

[urban skiff]

people who lose to me definitely deserve it

dismounting warriors midair and then flying down to blind them so they can't leap the ground dam

[verbal tangle]

Give me the secret queue times

[urban skiff]

wednesdays and thursdays from 16 to 2100

never go past 2100

[verbal tangle]

[urban skiff]

gets sweaty real quick

[fierce elm]

23 is peak time

only sweatlords and addicts online

[boreal veldt]

had 4 matches the other day where i lost 3, only one i won was wsg

otherwise, team couldn't spin flag or kept losing the off cart in mines

we sent a fury, bloodk, and disc priest to spin mid flag in the panda map and they let it get ninja capped

i'm still mad about that

[hasty pulsar]

yeah I dunno if I even like rbgb

are people liking/having fun in these matches?

ngl its only just pissed me off like crazy

[urban skiff]

I sure am

[hasty pulsar]

ok

[urban skiff]

but I treat it like regular battlegrounds, which I enjoy immensely

[hasty pulsar]

then it must be me..

yeah I mean I have always loved bg's

but rbgb just pissing me off apparently

[urban skiff]

if you're trying to go competitive or get too invested you're going to have a bad time unless you have the skillset to win matches on your own

[hasty pulsar]

ok yeah i wont lie I am taking it too seriously I guess

i need to just let go

it really does feel like a coin flip anyway

[urban skiff]

there's a weakaura for hiding your ratings so you can play just to play

[hasty pulsar]

interesting

i may actually look into that

cuz i lose, -14-20 rating, i win, rating unchanged LOL

its like wtf is going on here

[urban skiff]

what's going on is you're losing matches the game predicts you'll win and you're winning matches the game predicts you'll win

[hasty pulsar]

yeah

i gotta look into that rating wa

[chilly pivot]

what is the addon called that give a flash light on the ability u press

[hasty pulsar]

heilki or some crap? is that the one you talking about

[chilly pivot]

no

[hasty pulsar]

ok

[plush cairn]

actually how much does focus target help

for throwing a storm bolt on healer

macro that is

[urban skiff]

a lot for me

but i'm a dumbass

[plush cairn]

since i used to do it manually

sometimes i miss

i could increase that success % by maybe using the macro

also swapped from elvui into suf for unit frames

seems really nice

[fierce elm]

elvui sucks

so yeah

[plush cairn]

using bartender

atm

easier than default

[exotic forge]

A lot

For one, it keeps you from changing targets

[dim swallow]

Guess if it worked 🙂

-1 7xd

[plush cairn]

feels impossible to win in 1.6k

lmao

healers dying after 1cc

random ass shit

[fierce elm]

Having a blast at 1600 tbh lmao

[plush cairn]

naowh ui does a pretty good job for me tbh

no need to use actionbars

bartender for disarm/sharpen

[copper fox]

@elfin surge arms or fury for warr/dh

[fallen estuary]

Doesnt use

Spartanui

[wheat jay]

Warr/dh is ass, swap dh for anything else

Also fury for probably everything

[fierce elm]

heard of this lil spec

called OUTLAW

[rancid granite]

outlaw is for the sword mogs

[fierce elm]

hit 1660 at least

got 2 piece

broke 630 lmao

[plush cairn]

i kinda want the evoker elite

tho ill never play evoker after that

lol

[fierce elm]

just gotta level one

and play it baby

I just wanted a non-plate alt tbh

[plush cairn]

my non plate is druid

[fierce elm]

Then just did a coin toss between Enhance and Outlaw

[plush cairn]

because i steal mobs

when i farm

250% speed baby

called him "scumbag"

[fierce elm]

Timewalking is just absurdly fast leveling

its wild

[plush cairn]

umm

if u want fast

make a twink

lvl11 druid

or a monk

cap xp, then speedrun all dungeons

in 2min

[exotic forge]

lvl 11 gnome warrior with two lifestealing weapons

[fierce elm]

You go Monk

Monk is the fastest for twinking timewalking rn

[exotic forge]

Spin thru the dungeon

[fierce elm]

because it one shots everything

but like, assuming you have one character at max

[plush cairn]

im thinking of buying sub on 5accs

[fierce elm]

you are getting 15% extra XP rn

[plush cairn]

levelling around 100chars that way

then pumping out raid skips on lvl80 during TW

to farm badges

and caches

i have just enough time

isnt it like 25dungs 10-80?

[fierce elm]

75-80 is the slowest parr

so something like that idk

[plush cairn]

should be rather fast

2hrs with a twink

for 4 chars to 10-80 i guess

so 50hrs and im set up

[deep dune]

Thought experiment, what Do we think is the tankiest spec in ss right when piloted by an average player? I want to start playing and focus on living first

Fury is paper right?

I think warlocks probably the tankiest

[rancid granite]

find the 'best targets to attack' tier lists and pick an F tier

[lavish quest]

Am I kind of cracked at WW?

@fierce elm

[boreal veldt]

lock, spriest, disc come to mind

idk what an "average" player in pvp would be though

[green wharf]

i was 6 games 6 wins on my warlock too, but then i got the forced 50% ratio

[lavish quest]

I'm 12 - 1 for season as well

[green wharf]

i think i was 9-10 then it became 9-17

the i.a of this game is so fucked, that im constant in combat with the warlock

cause the imps just keep following the previous target by its own

once i died in a blitzz, and already came back in combat, for some reason

[vapid tartan]

Ye res is buggy

I died in a charge and charged as a ghost all the way to my body somehow

[green wharf]

LOL

thats amazing actually

[lavish quest]

Another one

[copper fox]

He’s insane

[hasty pulsar]

just had a dude abandon a base in rbgb and we lost even though we should of won

what is going on here?

with these players

[boreal veldt]

bout to log in and do my 5 games of the day, tell em to tighten up

[fast yacht]

anyone know if dragthyr warriors can play in human form during combat?

[hasty pulsar]

yes they can

[verbal tangle]

Yes

Any non-Evoker can

[fast yacht]

without needing to turn into draggo?

[verbal tangle]

Correct

[hasty pulsar]

lol

[verbal tangle]

They have a racial button that they click to lock into human female/belf male

Chosen Identity iirc is the name

[hasty pulsar]

i still cant get over how a drachtyr prot warr dragon charge glided to fel reaver and literally didnt let our team cap and we lost the match

truly wild

that shit needs to be fixed

[verbal tangle]

Based warrior

[hasty pulsar]

my team was like 'a warrior flew to fr'

and i was like wtf are u people talking about

u gotta click the flag to cap it

i couldnt believe it cuz i didnt see it

[fast yacht]

is dragthyr any good in pvp?

[verbal tangle]

A whole new meaning to Dragon Charge

[hasty pulsar]

they seem pretty good to me tbh

they are just annoying

lol

[verbal tangle]

It's fucking dumb in bg maps

Glide is very good

[hasty pulsar]

if i want to move faster with glide do i have to literally just jump every chance i can

is that how it works

like while on the ground i mean

apparently it make you move faster?

[verbal tangle]

You just do stupid shit like fetus deletus Dragon Charge people off of cliffs and glide back on

[hasty pulsar]

yes

damn

[verbal tangle]

That too, it rewards you for being an ADHD jump spammer

[fast yacht]

is glide nerfed for other classes other than evoker?

[verbal tangle]

It's half range

But it's still fucking dumb

It's still a ghetto double jump for Kotmogu shenanigans

Or Dragon Charge

Or Lumber Mill

[fast yacht]

hmmm is dragthyr warrior better than human in terms of pvp

[verbal tangle]

For bgs yes

[fast yacht]

arenas

[verbal tangle]

It's a wash I'd say for arena

[hasty pulsar]

how much mastery does their racial give anyone know

apparently its different amount depending on class or spec?

[exotic forge]

Race hardly matters anymore imo

but if you wanna warrior, go gnome

[lavish quest]

You have to use Tmorph to play gnome

[fast yacht]

@verbal tangle why am i still automatically turning into a dragon whenever i charge in?

i assumed my form with the race ability already

ohhh shud i not click that "chosen identity" button lol

[queen trout]

Murlok io is telling me that Fury > Arms for solo shuffle and arenas, but I'm only seeing Arms warriors in my matches. Did arms take over recently?

[fierce elm]

They are even

[queen trout]

Sweet

[past sigil]

hi ho
soooo
just leveld my warry now is the question for PvP
Arms or Furry ?

an why xD

[sharp meteor]

owo

[verbal tangle]

Prot

[urban skiff]

protip for blitz

Download BattleGroundEnemies and set up macros like this

Now middle clicking their name will ping attack them and you can use it to point at incomings that are visible across the map or showing where a rogue is

[spice hornet]

Don’t know how people play non-gnome

Warr

Feels soooo bad

[sharp meteor]

It does. 😢

[past sigil]

did i ask somting wrong ?

[fierce elm]

No he is just memeing

Pick the spec you prefer between arms and fury

[past sigil]

ok and in arms slayer or colosul i really have noo idea thats why i ask xD

[fierce elm]

https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/3v3 basically has all the information you need

[past sigil]

thx

[green wharf]

because people dont want to look like a gnome

[urban skiff]

kt human the best

[boreal veldt]

undead the best, can breath underwater while youre drowning in hunter pets

[lucid walrus]

KT's great for +10% swim speed

favorite racial and i am not bitter about it at all

[urban skiff]

lizardfolk is the best

doesn't even matter if dragonborn is superior in 5e24

[fickle forge]

Blizzard be out here taking down paintings of women, but putting up lewd lizards instead

[sand sundial]

Does recklessness have a shorter cd in pvp

[fickle forge]

No

[green wharf]

you mean body type 2

[fickle forge]

That's it, I'm uninstalling

[hot solstice]

Anger management cdr is 8 sec in pvp. That’s why it seems so

[green wharf]

just got 1950 rank and the weapon enchant

to bad isnt with war

dunno if i try to push dk or prot war now

[green wharf]

but yall were talking good about rogue, maybe i will check that out too

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah. Give me some body type 2. Or type 1. I'm body type flexible.

[urban skiff]

Rogue, survival, or enh

You can have a little fun. As a treat

[green wharf]

i feel enh so frail

they just die

good burst but low survival

[exotic forge]

Doesn't totemic help with that?

[fallen solar]

Can anyone explain why I can’t see the flight master in Oribos? I’m on my alt and I need to get something from Maldraxxus

[exotic forge]

Have you done the SL intro on that character?

[green wharf]

does it? didn't felt like it

before the update i remember you used to have a free heal after the lightining storm

pretty good

[exotic forge]

When I fight them and I see they're tanky they're usually totemic so dunno

[green wharf]

pretty sure you need to do the SL intro

[exotic forge]

That insta Healing Surge talent is great tho

[fallen solar]

No. But I just accepted the quest for the intro but it won’t let me go any further

I’ll figure it out

[sand sundial]

oh right? cuz the burst macro doesn't line up the CDs lol

[elfin surge]

[green wharf]

[verbal tangle]

5e

Go play Hello Kitty, it's right there

[urban skiff]

I don't feel frail at all

[fickle forge]

Ya'll remember when Mud did his job as a SF?

[urban skiff]

We had a SF Mud?

[fierce elm]

Yall remember when Kargish would play with me?

He is dodging my CLEAN outlaw rogue

[fickle forge]

I am indeed yeah

I pressed Evasion

[fierce elm]

Thats wack

I member when we used to be friends

now you are just a 2s andy

[rancid granite]

instead of HoL spam now it's just sinister strike spam

isntead of bubble its evasion

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[fierce elm]

He is PARRYING me

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm bench max up again today. Shoulder still fucked. If it wasn't I'd have hit 150

[fierce elm]

Sheeeeeeeeeesh

Im working out again tomorrow hopefully

though my sleep is FUCKED

[hasty pulsar]

where can i bench

what zone is that located in

[fierce elm]

went to bed at 7, slept until 14 kek

idea was to wake up at 10 but I slept through my alarm and GF didn't wake me up

[urban skiff]

The physical therapist called today about scheduling a meeting but I missed call because my wife was being cute.

[fierce elm]

JESUS

[urban skiff]

What the fuck

Man I want that guy working for me

[wheat jay]

Bro youre not doing too well on outlaw

Maybe go back to ret

[urban skiff]

It's in legion.

[urban skiff]

Get moving

[fierce elm]

Slammed 1400 rounds in like 1.5 hours lmao

We did win that round though

[exotic forge]

At that point I'd question my life choices

[fierce elm]

starting to get the hang of this outlaw shit though

[wheat jay]

Do you know Vesa?

[exotic forge]

I don't know anybody

[rapid shore]

https://tenor.com/view/the-man-the-myth-the-legend-famous-nice-to-meet-you-gif-16682483

[fierce elm]

i

yeah

[rapid shore]

[fierce elm]

Playing SS at 1600 is so much more fun than higher

fast as fuck queues

hilarious players

[zenith rivet]

for a fury warrior in pvp should you stance switch or just stay in berserk or defensive most of the time?

[fierce elm]

You swap between them

[zenith rivet]

so use defensive when your targeted and berserk when able im guessing?

[fierce elm]

Defensive when you are going to take the D

berserk if not

[rancid granite]

bind the swap to same hotkey

lifesaver

[wheat jay]

she's had like 6 games

6k games

to get 2400

[fierce elm]

why is conq gain SO SLOW

I need 400 conq more for fucking weapons and I know its gonna explode my damage

BUT MAN WHY IS IT SO SLOW

[exotic forge]

At that point I'd find another career

[wheat jay]

she then had another 2 or 3k games

and finally got 2400

[rancid granite]

props to her sticking it out somehow lmao

then just vanished from this discord

[wheat jay]

she didnt even use the mog

smh

[fierce elm]

She is a survival main

[rancid granite]

damn vulperas

[hasty pulsar]

vulperas ftw

gonna be slowing dudes 80% soon

and mini speed boosts for me and my allies

[exotic forge]

Lol at that point she would've gotten Legend

[lavish quest]

We just malded the fuck out of her

Good times

[worldly grail]

does mountain thane fury have any place in pvp atm?

[fierce elm]

Do you enjoy it

if so play it

[worldly grail]

I mean is there a spot where its particularly desired, I enjoy it either way I just wanted to check to see if its awesome somewhere

Oh looks like its a solid chioce for blitz my buddy just said

[fierce elm]

Its a solid choice for lbitz

if you are gonna be teamfighting a lot

other than that its meh compared to Slayer

[sharp meteor]

I mean it might be fine idk if many people have really tried it

I just went with slayer for both dps specs than thane for tank and haven't really tried alternatives

[worldly grail]

The most I have trouble with on my arms is 1v1s so I figured I'd check out fury which I suppose means slayer

[copper fox]

Ah well then you might want to just get off of warrior

[worldly grail]

Nah Im having fun I just wanna get better at it is all

[verbal tangle]

Colossus Prot

[copper fox]

Arms is definitely a better 1v1 spec but warrior is the worst 1v1 class in the game

[worldly grail]

really? okay ill have to read into arms pvp a bit deeper

[verbal tangle]

The goal of your 1v1 is to not lose the node you are defending

Prot does this by not dying

[worldly grail]

until help arrives yeah

[copper fox]

Followed by just not killing anything before getting the node

Then also being extremely useless otherwise

[verbal tangle]

Nah Prot has a swifty

But yeah you gatekeep the fuck out of a node and make them dedicate more players to it than they want to

[copper fox]

Or play a real spec and climb much faster

[verbal tangle]

We are talking blitz

[copper fox]

Correct

So am I

[verbal tangle]

You don't "climb faster"

[copper fox]

???

If you load up as prot instead of arms or fury you’re more likely to lose

Therefore

Slower climb

[worldly grail]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[exotic forge]

The bracket favors dps and healers, not tanks

[rancid granite]

load up what you find most fun and win anyway

[ancient sage]

Much famster

[rancid granite]

afro fanboy atm

[copper fox]

Man didn’t ask for enjoyment he asked for results

Get it right pal

[exotic forge]

I thought it was about enjoying the game

[copper fox]

For who

[worldly grail]

im kinda surprised how quick that was made lol

[copper fox]

Bazaart makes memeing a breeze

[rancid granite]

huh

ms paint is so easy

[exotic forge]

I know who to hire if I want memes then

[rancid granite]

ms paint been around longer than WoW

i think i remember doodling on it in pc class in like 3rd grade

that or oregon trail / sim city

good times

[fierce elm]

wtf lmao

[rancid granite]

anti-meta-doomer memes

:)

[lavish quest]

You can't listen to Aatos

I don't make the rules

[worldly grail]

I figured it out. lol

I didn’t have my pvp gear equipped lmao

[exotic forge]

Everytime I que into a skirm and my team-mate ain't using pvp gear I call them out

[worldly grail]

My dressing addon had my sets flipped I’ve been pvping in my farming gear lmao

[verbal tangle]

Addon? You don't just use the one on your paperdoll?

[worldly grail]

Old habits

( Would also explain why it broke on me lol )

[exotic forge]

Do like a person with adhd and check your character gear constantly

[urban skiff]

I do chests in the world + queue 2x stomps in between.

Queue up when the chest spawns and accept after grabbing

[fierce elm]

I need 90 conquest for my weapons lmao

[urban skiff]

Chest is 60

[fierce elm]

Just doing another solo shuffle lmao

Got my 4 set at least

But weapons are going to be huge

two weapons + enchants

big damage incoming

[urban skiff]

My rogue is going from 454 df weaps to conq. Skipping honor just so I learn to play around my cc

[exotic forge]

What enchant are you putting on those bad boys

[fierce elm]

DEPTHS BABY

Need to raise my goddamn crit so going double crit weapon kek

[exotic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

No crit?

[fierce elm]

no lmao

[exotic forge]

You're living in the future with that haste

Jeez

[fierce elm]

Was stealth

only 26% otherwise

but I have constant uptime on that stealth buff

and hastefrom RTB

I just ahve a ton of haste

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm did you do your blitz quests this week?

[fierce elm]

yes

[wheat jay]

sheesh

nerd

[fierce elm]

oh wait

you mean the 1500?

naaa

[wheat jay]

ye

[fierce elm]

I did the brawl quest though

[wheat jay]

are you actually regarded?

[fierce elm]

shut u pnerd

[wheat jay]

THEY SHARE THE BRACKET

YOU MONKEY

350 conq

and conq for blitz wins

wins give fuckall

but still xD

[fierce elm]

whatchu mean

I mean I am not doing blitz

fuck that

[wheat jay]

fast conq

for that

[fierce elm]

cringe

[wheat jay]

quests give 175 conq each

[fierce elm]

Pass

I dont wanna queue blitz man

[hasty pulsar]

i am in the biggest tilt perhaps ever in rbgb

i was 1 match away from high warlord.. now i dont even want to say my rating.. something changed the last day or so with the quality of these players in these matches..

[fierce elm]

lmao

it just happens

[fierce elm]

4 set for outlaw is WILD

there we go

[jovial torrent]

i think im guna go assassination on my rogue always loved it since wotlk, outlaw is tempting tho for bg blitz node maps

[fierce elm]

wack

outlaw is so much fun

[lavish quest]

Doubt

WW is fun tho

🙂

[dense herald]

do i go arms warrior or fury for my warrior

[wheat jay]

Dh is fun

[dense herald]

well for my new warrior

[lavish quest]

I dunno what spec of rogue I'll play when I go for its 1800

Prob ass

I've got war 2100, ret and WW at 1800 so far

Working on hunt, post nerf

[lavish quest]

Arms feels ass to play

Just fury

[wheat jay]

Lmao gay bm

[lavish quest]

Path of least resistance

Feels like war if it were a better class. Has range, better cc. Less AoE, but the rest about the same

And in blitz I get to play farmville or some shit

[jovial torrent]

ive been playing ret in pve and ngl it feels like just a superior warrior, blast dps but also everything u do is 20- 30 yard range

[fierce elm]

Because that is what it does lmao

Once you play Ret you are hesitant to go back to Warr

[urban skiff]

I only ever liked sub. Playing assa feels like a more boring feral and I don't like the pirate theme of outlaw . Liked it when it was combat spec.

[fierce elm]

yall WACK

[urban skiff]

Smf thane obviously

[jovial torrent]

rogue in general feels a bit weird to me now, having like 300 energy and thistle tea, might aswell just delete energy

[wheat jay]

Says rogue

[fierce elm]

Thats the neat part about outlaw

there are two build paths

[urban skiff]

Lower damage ever so slightly and just freecast tbh

[fierce elm]

Personally don't like the extra energy and thistle tea

[jovial torrent]

im not a fan of thistle tea and it auto proccing at 30 energy

[fierce elm]

You never feel energy starved as Outlaw at least

but having like fucking 58% haste constantly helps

I hated Outlaw when it had shadowdance but now it feels pretty unique honestly

Vanish into Between the eyes spam its my dopamine the right way

[jovial torrent]

i was never a big fan of combat, but i havent tried it in years so coule be better now, the thunderfury legion artifacts are pretty sick

[urban skiff]

Just never go below 30 energy duh

[jovial torrent]

sub seems very hit or miss atm, ive seen some do crazy dmg while also insain cc, but others do like 250k dps and feel usless

[fierce elm]

That is how sub is

Have like one or two extremely dangerous goes, does nothing between except be a CC bot

[jovial torrent]

just suprised how bad some rogues are even at 2k rating :L, been in some games with assassin rogues pumping 850k+ dps

[fierce elm]

I mean im sitting at 1700 KEK

Slowly getting that shit on lock though

[jovial torrent]

honestly just keep throwing all ur shit at healer and u will climb

even try kill them somtimes if they refuse to use their wall

[fierce elm]

I face so many healers that have auto-trinket and its hilarious

[jovial torrent]

if pala bubbles ur cc literally just train hinm

[fierce elm]

I have huge hopes in my new weapons+enchants now

[jovial torrent]

mines nearly leveled now just timewalking queues have been kind of bad, got like 4k conquest tokens from healer q to spend on it

[fierce elm]

The best part about playing rogue is that nobody trains you in SS

[dense herald]

losing compstomp

[fierce elm]

kek

[jovial torrent]

yehhhh, thats what i dislike most about arms, in SS somtimes felt like u needed to wall then ppl will just sit u the rest of the game

[lavish quest]

Prob is, ret not as manly as war

[urban skiff]

That's my life tbh

[fierce elm]

some of these solo shuffle gamers

are built different

[hasty pulsar]

thats me

[spice hornet]

Gross

[hasty pulsar]

excuse me? i got a winning record

[exotic forge]

Can't lose if you never step in the Arena

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[jovial torrent]

@Afro mage in my SS a few days ago

[fierce elm]

christ

[spice hornet]

at least that mage got to 2k

you could be @wheat jay here

[hasty pulsar]

these guys got winning records

not sure why you thinking they bad

[spice hornet]

they are bad

2k rounds to 2k isnt good

2k in shuffle is like 1600 in 3v3

[fierce elm]

Because they have like 2.2k rounds

with a barely winning record

its wild

First because of time invested

then the CR they are

[hasty pulsar]

So wat some people are newer or need more time to get to certain ranks

[fierce elm]

That is fine

I aint bullying, I am more so impressed with their grind

[hasty pulsar]

Oh

Yeah that is a lot of time I can’t deny that

[fierce elm]

I know I got at least like 500 rounds in SS each season before I call quits

[hasty pulsar]

especially with these long ass queue times

[fierce elm]

Sitting 25 minute queues at 2.2k 2.4mmr

kill me

[hasty pulsar]

Damn lol

[fierce elm]

Enjoying my shitty outlaw being 1700 because its 6-8 minute queues

[hasty pulsar]

Is there ever any world or solution to getting queue times lower

[exotic forge]

I'm afraid of even trying to get Forged Legend because of the que times alone

[hasty pulsar]

Like it’s just them maybe offering more perks to healers or what

[fierce elm]

Them offering a lot more to everyone

Better rewards, MMR changes for Healers

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah damn

[exotic forge]

If SS rewarded more stuff (or PvP in general) more people would que

[fierce elm]

More rewards for everyone, including things like mounts for non 3s queue. Better MMR for healers so they gain from 3-3s

[exotic forge]

Like, oh I don't know, a recolored glad mount or something

[fierce elm]

less punishing MMR for losing for healers

[hasty pulsar]

Yeah I can’t deny I was shocked when I learned ss and blitz don’t offer any mount

[wheat jay]

jesus XD

the moment your games played exceeds your rating

[exotic forge]

Just vicious saddles that you can get thru normal brackets

[wheat jay]

you gotta stop

and rethink

[hasty pulsar]

Like sure gladiator mounts are what they are but like solo dudes should get something yeah

[spice hornet]

shufflke should give a ground mount and diff colored mogs for the pvp sets

[fierce elm]

Or just give it glad mount

because who gives a fuck anymore

3s is dead

this is the future of PvP

[lavish quest]

I hit 2.1k in 112 rounds

2k in 2k rounds

Just kill me now

[fierce elm]

slow ass

[hasty pulsar]

Apparently according to the road map 11.2 seasonal rewards are getting reworked so may see some good changes then I hope 🙏

[lavish quest]

Fuk u, didn't take me 1k rounds like you

[fierce elm]

wtf

81 : (

[lavish quest]

Doubt

Besides. Ret OP

[fierce elm]

dont look at winrate lmao

I was limit testing early KEK

[lavish quest]

I had a higher win rate than that

You just had more blessed mmr I guess

[fierce elm]

More wins in a row

honestly

went a ton of 5-1 and shit

then absolutely inted a few games kek

[lavish quest]

I'm just waiting a month or so for more inflation then go take easy 2.4k

Me grind alts in mean time

[fierce elm]

hoping season end will spark queues

tbh

[lavish quest]

Hoping to see that season rewards refresh mean pvp, but knowing it won't

But who cares about pvp when the glad mount is end of campaign quest line level mount

[jovial torrent]

i hope they add glad mount to solo q's personally

[lavish quest]

Yes.

But I also really hope they delete fomo from pvp

Like I can go back and get mythic raid sets. Who cares if I can go back and get elite sets?

[exotic forge]

They should

Most people just care about cosmetics

PvP population is already dwindling

[fierce elm]

Nobody except pussies care for that

[lavish quest]

Don't be an idiot

I get it, you play rogue now, but hold yourself to a higher standard

[fierce elm]

Naa, I have said they should release old elite sets for a while

[jovial torrent]

i want them also to add old pvp sets to a vicious saddle style drop

id happily play like 3k games a season farming old sets

[fickle forge]

I need help finding new excuses to dodge @fierce elm's outlaw rogue

[jovial torrent]

hes hook scripting

[lavish quest]

I can ez get 1800 no prob. In current season. But maybe I wanna go back to get a really cool set for a class I don't normally play

[exotic forge]

If it was something like this then yes

[lavish quest]

Call him a multi 1200 player and queue with a multi 1300 player instead

[exotic forge]

Old glad mounts I don't think would be a good idea but old elite sets would make a killing

[lavish quest]

Bruh, you better give me old glad mounts if the current is gonna be some ugly ass bat

[fickle forge]

I always congratulate Afro when he gets his first rival

[lavish quest]

Homie's still working on contender

[wheat jay]

you can q with me

therefore you won't be queueing with afro's outlaw

[wheat jay]

real

old glad mounts rng drop from arena wins

0.1% per arena

or 1%

fuck it

[rancid granite]

worst take ive ever heard

[wheat jay]

noone cares anyway

there's 300 players in 3s anyway

[copper fox]

They should just stop making glad mounts if they’re getting this bad. Bring us back a nether wing with more armor

[rancid granite]

just make a trophy toy you can use and hold it up anywhere

[wheat jay]

at this point

make it 2100 or something

fuck knoiws

pvp is so dead it wont make a difference

[copper fox]

Or inflate rating and have 2.7 give a token and you can slowly buy old ones

2.4 current

2.7 old

Well 2.4 + wins

[wheat jay]

2.4 new + old

pvp is literally DEAD

never had lower participation

[copper fox]

I do agree

I use to be against it

Until this seasons bs

[wheat jay]

xD

why would you ever be against it

we can get EVERY old pve item

and set

pvp are locked for no reason

but

only from cata?

wotlk sets we can still get

we only can't get old elite weapons from wotlk xD

we have old elite sets

and old glad mounts

and weapons

all of which people would 100% play to get

EVERY single warrior would spam arena to get WoD s1 elite set

or legion antorus elite set

then other classes

[copper fox]

I use to be because I have them and other people don’t lol but you can’t get every old pve item. CM gear, raid / M+ mounts

[wheat jay]

then older glad mounts which were amazing looking

[copper fox]

But irrelevant

[wheat jay]

raid items you can get everything

CM gear true, you can't

[copper fox]

Yea

[wheat jay]

m+ mounts seasonal you can't ye

none of which make sense

[copper fox]

Agreed. Should just token all of it

Why do they care

Every 2k throw me a token so I can get the M+ mounts I missed

[wheat jay]

yep

i'd like toh ave this 100%

people would kill for this 100%

[stark agate]

what is going on

[wheat jay]

people would kill for this too xD

[stark agate]

I was in a 2.3k mmr shuffle game and a fucking blood death knight went 6-0

[wheat jay]

blood is best dk spec now xD

it does a lot of dmg

[stark agate]

can you focus him?

[copper fox]

Yea I didn’t play warrior until DF so I missed all that shit lol

[rancid granite]

right??? i had that happen to me too yesterday lol

[wheat jay]

this for paladin

[copper fox]

Ignore the blood dk

[rancid granite]

blood dk was annoying as hell but doing actual dmg

[wheat jay]

he heals based on dmg taken xD

[copper fox]

Yea you gotta ignore it

It’s insane into melee

[stark agate]

It was frost mage and BM hunter so he kept pulling me towards him as I was being kited

[wheat jay]

anyway, old sets were 10/10

and they should give it back xD

[copper fox]

Facts

[jovial torrent]

i would kill for wod season 1

just happened to not be playing warrior the first patch

[fierce elm]

suck me

I got gear now

[lavish quest]

But you're still outlaw

[boreal veldt]

i feel like the only good pvp set i've gotten since df was getting the high warlord/marshal set

[rancid granite]

outlaw going ham in AWC atm

afro just a meta fanboy

pls help

i updated my addon list

now i have a lot of bars

i only have gladius though?

[lavish quest]

The extra ones are battleground enemies

[cobalt gale]

Close battleground enemies addon

[lavish quest]

Go into the settings and turn off 1-5 players for allies and enemies

He doesn't need to close it lol

Just turn it off for the smaller group sizes

[rancid granite]

oh nice thanks both of you

i had the addon for a while but it just popped up

[lavish quest]

Ye it's new

It just got a big update I guess

[hot solstice]

and I waited on this for 50 min

[urban skiff]

That's like the smallest increment your rating can go up, iirc

[fierce elm]

these motherfuckers

Here I go creating an alt and its insta AWC meta

[rancid granite]

trend-setter

[boreal veldt]

afro has the meta that awc teams are clamouring for

[jovial torrent]

just opened awc, really double lock lol

[stark agate]

Why am I seeing some people say crafted weapon is mid?

[jovial torrent]

ppl went crafted wep in first 2 weeks before the free wep quest was changed

now ppl go double elemental focus

on accesores/boots

[stark agate]

I have focusing lense on my crafted wep lol

Yeah I remember though I crafted weapon before it was changed

oh well

[jovial torrent]

in like 1-2 weeks we should have unlocked conquest so wont matter anymore

[hot solstice]

fun thing is, with old vault ppl would have been geared faster

[rancid granite]

some, anyway

but man when you scored big on vault you were on top of the world

[fierce elm]

It was goated

Walk into week 2 in BfA being almost fully geared

When it was PvE competitive with Mythic raiding

”Scrubs only have 1 mythic ilvl piece” While I flex my Chest and shoulders

[exotic forge]

I do not miss the random chest at all

The change to PvP items from vault was weird ngl

[hot solstice]

nah gearing isnt problem at all but ppl participation

[boreal veldt]

is laosw still in awc? we got any warr reps still hangin in there?

[fierce elm]

Blizo played one game

they got dumpstered

[boreal veldt]

[exotic forge]

If people were given more incentives to play pvp then yeah it wouldn't be an issue

[spice hornet]

DPS warr just isn’t good at the tourney level unless it’s insanely overturned damage wise

[amber heron]

I think arms might actually be better then fury

[spice hornet]

It’s too simple

[hot solstice]

nah its just most ppl would rather go solo than 3s

[amber heron]

I had 2 stacks of deathwish and did my full burst on someone and an arms warrior did more damage then me

[hot solstice]

if only they made rewards equaly hard to achive in every bracket

[exotic forge]

Not just that. People want rewards. Cosmetics. All the shiny stuff. Add more of that to pvp, you'll have more people playing it

[green wharf]

i remember how a few of the incentives(vicious saddle) was bugged for more than a month

[hot solstice]

pvp has more rewards than pve

its not a problem

[green wharf]

how?

[exotic forge]

But when you have all the vicious mounts, then there's no point

[hot solstice]

shuffle killed 2s

[fierce elm]

PvE has a ton of different things to do

Compared to PvP lmao

[exotic forge]

What

[fierce elm]

And has a ton more rewards

[exotic forge]

You're joking right

[fierce elm]

flat out compared to PvP

[green wharf]

it only have the elite set, enchant, and mount if you are good enough

[hot solstice]

cosmetic rewards

[green wharf]

and glad mount is hard to get for most pleb

[exotic forge]

PvE has way more stuff LOL

[fierce elm]

4 sets of tier, world quest stuff, delve sets, vendor sets

what else we got

[exotic forge]

Mounts, pets... all that stuff

[fierce elm]

KSM mount, raid mount from drop and achieve,

[hot solstice]

ah we will count recolors

ok

[fierce elm]

Dungeon mount drops

you can remove those and it wont be close lmao