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Prot is ass in teamfights
I love prot on wsg
In no situation would you ever prefer Prot over arms or fury
So the best course of action for a tank is to play for objectives
Which they told you to do
Especially in silverwhatever mines where you can play dragon charge to knock people into water
Or away from your circle
Useful there, though its still better for tank to defend base there
what mmr is this cause sub 2100 this is a moot question
1600
the team is often useless, I was 3v1 at one base for example, and they didn't take rest of map
because some idiots were doing 3v1 somewhere else instead of capping rest of map vs a dps and they couldnt kill him
I agree that teams who cant capitalise on having a tank wont benefit from it
some people just dont know how to play against one ,or with
kinda? people wanna 'carry' and have the main hero syndrome
kinda gotta help the helpless help themselves and go with the flow sometimes
and sometimes going against it can cause some chaos and wont have a good outcome?
thats all ret paladins
dont @ me afro
ret paladins and rogues
yes thats the thing, I did what they said, but they kept losing the team fight until I went there
did you win the match tho
@fierce elm
hammer of light dmg 👍
haste or vers ring enchant for arms?
which do u want or need more of
my vers is 29.3% and haste is 16.5% so i wasn't too sure
yeah need to pump that haste
ok thank you
how tf is a DH with all greens and no enchants or gems doing more damage than people with full gear
good at his class, cleave, good heals, high uptime
could be a lot of things
yes but not this much disparity
report him
100% cheater
Seriously tho, geared people must just suck lol
He should never be outdamaging anyone xD
Well he's Russian so wouldn't put it past him
high cleave and/or skill gap
he's also playing dh lol
Dh kinda dogshit now
I love that Hammer of Light is bassically just Demolish but good
Dhs are twats with that evasion crap
You mean rng blur?
Thats not guaranteed dodge
If rng is on your side you can kill through it
Dh kinda flops, very limited amount of walls
Bursts once every 30 seconds, with eye beam
and they get full hp every time they do that
Dh definitely dies
Not rly, healing is from their purges
Every 10s if they purge something and pick up the soul they get a small heal
Smaller heals if they proc rng soul from chaos strike
Right now dh is weak, predictable, and easy to shut down
Stun eye beam that always comes after sigil of flsme
Gg you take zero dmg now cuz eye beam is their biggest burst 
i dont think they are hard, just annoying twats
in DF they were obnoxious
i remember getting killed by a dumb skill that goes to the sky and nukes you
DF dh was ridiculous lol
if im in a solo shuffle as the only melee what talents can i swap/do because i just went into a spriest evoker and mage lobby i was just useless
Reflect xD

Leech is useless in pvp
Leech is massive 1%
So when a feral uses rip on u for 400,000 tics
U can feel safer
On gear it is
wat does these even mean
like are you saying the leech talent is good
IIRC secondary stats are nerfed to shit
Like the Leech talent itself isn't terrible
But a leech pve item is ratfucked
doesnt meta give insane leech
Ye
annoying
Like 30% iirc
why isnt dh very common right now anyway
you clearly never fought dh back in df pre-patch
is their dam bad or something
they were so busted it's not even funny
Nah dh is ok
Defensives
Just dies in stuns
i still find blur so annoying lmao
And its not the best into casters
If u get rooted u cant leech
I think its better then what dh mains say tho
Solid b+
A-
I think war is awful
C+
man blitz hits different with the diddy kong racing 64 soundtrack blasting
i believe that i live more in pvp cause i put a leech enchant on my cape
not because the movespeed one was too expensive at that time
it was all due to planning

the what mate

01 - Title Theme [00:00]
02 - Choose your Racer [01:08]
03 - Main Menu [03:11]
04 - Intro [04:39]
05 - Entranced [05:42]
06 - Main Lobby Area [07:21]
07 - Dino Domain [09:30]
08 - TT's Theme [11:32]
09 - Race Start Fanfare [13:56]
10 - Ancient Lake [14:00]
11 - Fossil Canyon [16:38]
12 - Jungle Falls [19:26]
13 - Hot Top Volcano [21:48]
14 - Fir...
shit slaps during dog doodoo blitz matches
it didn't even occur to me lmfaoooo
set for the next patch, looking good to kill some people conan style
yo fellas
i messed up at the beginning of the season and got the wrong wep
Is it worth to craft the other weapon to replace it
The greatsword i believe
the stat difference is very minor, building the weapon is basically just for the embellishment
unless you drop vers for haste/mast that is
which i wouldn't recommend
ye grab lenses if you don't have anything and make sure your jewlery is stated appropriately cause those are your biggest secondary stat sticks
you far from cooked my brotha
2 ye, can chuck em in any 2 crafted pieces you want
so u think im good?
with this wep?
couldnt i craft wep with vers+mastery and i would be better off?
you absolutely can
i'm just noticing you still got a nice lil green trink that could be more purple is all
would you replace bloody token wrists with conquest wrists or craft the weapon
yeah im like 200 conq short lol
and capped for the week
ahh
what would u do
.
i want to socket my wrists but maybe it would be more worth it to do conquest wrists instead
thats why im pondering here lol
Depends on what stats you're trying to prioritize
bout to say
I swear that blaring Powerwolf out of your speakers so loudly the entire block hears it will improve any Ret's dps
Trust
Mastery seems fine. Could use a bit more haste (15% is fine)
i gotta level a jc and a tailor so i can just recraft my own pvp jewlery and cape
?
@boreal veldt @exotic forge
yall let me kno im desperate LMAO
your stats look good, you could maybe gem into high vers + haste and enchant haste
hmm ok
18% is a bit squishy vers wise
i'd go wrist
thanks a lot bro
and i'd also throw the wrists in the catalyst
no for the vers
they got vers already tho
😮
id buy these
and socket it with vers/mast or vers/haste idk yet
what u think
i think that's fine ye
yeah you're gonna be a bit squishy so tip your healers
i get away with it at 25% as colossus cause we get a free 2.5% reduction naturally
i didn't know goblin mines could crit, got a 1.3mil crit with em lol
How do you beat Ret/BM/Pres
Literally the most braindead shit I've had the displeasure of fighting
Pray
where do you get the transmogs after hitting rival?
In bgb?
ah automatically in my stuff yay
damn i switched to fury and it was so much easier, sad day lol
what is this set Syegfryed?
How do you beat bm/pres
Paladin doesnt do much there
But really BM is just a unstoppable thing, your best hope is killing ret
time to live the dream of guardian druid
lmao
I member convoke cheese from guardian with boomkin affinity
this is just the same thing
Time to level druid I guess because this wont be changed
wat
its what i said brother, upcoming set for the next patch
what the heck is this shit
Hilarious tbh
Reminds me of bear bombing
Any tips of what to buy next with conq or just general gear improvement?
are your trinkets conquest ones or just leveled up pve wise
They're both conq it seems
For one I'd probably work on haste gear, what you're at rn is low imo; mastery and vers are ok tho
Unless you're not playing into haste which idk why you wouldn't do that
TURBO IS BACK! (we got owned)
Our enha was playing the Storm build, 1 shot, but no consistent dmg.
Suffice to say, we're going to play the other build from now on :)))))
apparently people are gearing up to complain about enh now
1m dps is chump damage right?
1m dps on how many things and for how long though is the better context right
turbo back bby
been seeing alot of hunters pump 900k dmg too tbh in my games
spriests hovering around 800k too
I played fury sp last night and got farmed by turbo. Finished @ 2182… went 4-9 because of that turbo 😭
BM is doing straight up 800-900k consistently lmao
post cooldowns and across an entire game
also 2v2 melee is bound to have bonkers damage
1 million standstill cleave aint bad
Last time I saw BM being this obnoxious was in MoP and my opinion hasn't changed since then
They never should've added interrupt immunity to Revive Pet. I'll die on this hill
@fierce elm fucked my shoulder. Bench max went up 2kg
iirc they just show up in your appearances
About time too, after my last 531 reset i was worried i had backed too far off
how does that even WORK
I stopped 1-3 reps off my AMRAP set. Also accidentally put 107.5 on bar instead of 107. Idk. It was about time i started to move my max again
A win is a win. Now comes to fun grind where it'll go up every 3 week cycle on my 3+ weekm
So excited. Wish ohp was doing as well
getting a bit tired of arena
every week they giga buff one class
lost 38 rating for going 2-4
such bs
is haste suddenly valued high for fury in pvp or what? Thought it was full vers mastery
I HATE small plate math
Sure if it's a commercial gym. But my own plates down change weight every week. So I figure I'm exempt from the reasons one shouldn't.
Also it's putting 1.25s on instead of 1.0s in this case. The 2.5s and 1.25s are same colour so I just like them more..
Aesthetic plate math
I mean... wonder if anyone here seem the movie beast master lol
dude was a barbarian who had Tigers and ferrets and shit help him
I AINT ISING 1.25
either I jump 2.5 per side or I die
thats just the way it is
It's been infinitely easier to program since getting micro plates
I don't have to worry about how to round anything. I just put numbers into my Excel and put whatever it says on the bar
it is
But I got that PRIDE IN ME
Also cant workout monday or tuesdsy
not even sure if I can workout Wed-fri
Touching up tattoos on Monday, school stuff tuesday
Dont know how much we are touching up but not a good idea to workout with an open wound
Man I want tattoos so bad. I just can't figure out where to begin
im too indecisive id want to change them a year or two later
Got a bunch of surgery scars that could be cool to incorporate somehow
Gonna plan next one on monday too and thats gonna take an hour or two if not more
you just get more lmao
Thing is, I can get a tattoo or i can get LEGO D&D red dragons tale.
Or just cover that shit up
Lego had better resale value
I got one when 18, one when 21, covered both at 27
Just working on covering body rn, so gonna get entire upper arm+half chest with the next one
which is gonna be aids
Sometimes you just gotta send shit for the sake of sending it
Hey there! For the First time in my wow career I started to play rated PvP and i am having so much fun!
Having Mixed success (curre!&ly 1.7 in SS and 1.4 in 2s after few matches) and now i am questioning myself: how do you improve in PvP?
I cant really find Guides for PvP, except for builds and Gear (e.g. murlok.io).
How do i know who to Focus? How can i Check If my "Rotation" is correct and i am contributing enough ?
Right now for me it feels a bit random, If i win or lose. Playing mostly Arms Slayer build and Sometime I struggle to Finish an opponet of.
How do i Set Up Kills for example?
Would be really Happy, If someone can give me some advice and Tips!
Rotation is the same as PvE basically, most of what you mention are just stuff you ”feel” honestly. The best advice we can give is to watch a fuckton of streams from warriors
For setting up kills, keep track of what your partner is doing in SS and 2s
If they are on Stun/fear DR
What most warriors suck at is using intervene and disarm correctly, not just spamming it randomly
Will probably do these mistakes. ^^
K, will try to Play more and get more exp.
What Happens quiet often to me, is that i cant Stick to a dedicated target (e.g. one target gets called while Timer is running in SS )
I try to build pressure on another target than, until i can Leap/charge/intervene/ Run again at target.
Is this normal or an I doing smth wrong there?
And thanks a Lot for this! 🙂
i just cant seem to hit 2100 , every time i get that stupid map with the pillar in mid and everyone kites opposite sides
I have a hate/love relationship with maldraxxus col
it just got me 2,1k but hell no if you're fighting double ranged
ESPECIALLY frost mages
i just keep having to walk out and heal which then gets me landed into a point click stun, poly poly poly, or like sleep poly clone ect ect
might flick back to my pala, both mw and pala are about 2050
atleast ive gotten like 4k conquest saved up for when my dragon fw hits 80
every game ive gotten a mage on my team who loses the first round for me
and then somehow clutches the last rounds to fuck my draw
Mugambala is a wack map
Especially as warrior
If they are playing downstairs you just fucked tbh
Same with that DF arena that has the wall in the middle
Mugambala is so troll lmao
no pun intended
like, it's not bad but it's not great either
better and more important than any advice given is simply: q and keep q'ing
do better and you wont lose rating
like i just said, q and keep q'ing and you get better
the problem is
i go 5-1 i gain like 30 rating
i go 1-5 i lose 70
and most of my day is wasted by 0 rating change 3-3
just frustrating having 0 control over 0-6 dps
You absolutely have control over the game as a healer
compared to a singular dps
unless that DPS is an assa rogue or feral
step #1 in never improving is blaming team
run to narnia with him bro
run with him lmao
yeh yeh yeh
Reposition yourself
it just feels like shit
Healing definitely feels like shit
running in eating a insta stun into chain cc which noone kcisk
it does
but your other option is losing
Playing melee in SS really forces you to take risks if everyone is playing pillar
your best bet is adapting to them
i had a priest yelling at me while behind pillar 1, vs 2 locks on another pillar
he ended up losing rating
i just tell everyone that if i cant chase we lose
before gates open
and if they decide to be noobs and we lose then oh well
oh word cracker
The only thing I pre-communicate is if I play with an hpala due to being a ret
i should just level my other war, playing classes i dislike is bad for my mental
this map just tilts the fuck out of me
get ride of those side rooms and replace with 2 pillars
sorted
or remove teps
steps
I kinda like the map
i like it as anything other than healer without voice
people just panic blink over random sides of pillar
it's the best one tbh
even if I'm swearing every time i miss a kill because of the dumb pillar in the mid
love when my team refuses to push that room for enemy lock though they got drd on every cc school imaginable
Will do! Its Just sometimes frustrating if i ask myself why I have a lost a round.
But i think this will come with time
Btw are there any Warrior streamers than you can recommend?
I know Bajheera but a few more for conparrison would be nice.
Bajheera, Magnus
sometimes Whazz does warrior, trillebartom also does warrior sometimes
Generally just watch a lot of streams, the more you understand how each spec works the better
I think Mag is playing a viable class (bm hunter).
Baj has great "well i'm just gonna hit what i can i guess" energy, cause we do end up getting kited a lot, good reminder you can truck a healer if they wander close to the danger zone.
Mag plays everything
But really, just watch whoever is playing warrior at a decent rank
even if they arent 'warrior' mains, they still have knowledge that you need
ye once a pala has used his bubble and wall he flops just as hard as any other dps, alot of times i have to bubble cc cus dmg is so high in 3's atm
even larosw swapped to bm hunter lol
rip
have people settled on secondaries for fury now, i havent been keeping up, are they going full mastery or like 2 mastery accesories + a haste
yeh ive seen some play full haste some full mastery
I have 2 wars that I geared differently
At the end of the day, it’s pretty much the same
ye im guna be leveling my dragon war soon and im guna have him be mastery
my first war is arms haste atm
2200 mmr monk...16 dispels only one on frost nova vs mage fdk....question: how this person even got to 2200?
no tiger lust at all
yeah.. WoW pvp definitely takes some effort to get into; and at first you just don't know wtf is going on. and slowly the more you play the more you see things lol... fun investment though
What does it mean if I keep going 3-3 drawing in solo shuffle
Like I must just be missing crucial swaps and/or something
personally I think full mastery is only good in later seasons when the baseline stats alone take you close to cap.
Bro should ask in here instead of clogging up reddit
let the boy learn
I'd love to teach him, but replying on reddit is way too much effort
You have to deal with .. ugh.. redditors
making a reddit post asking which enchant to get is actually crazy
Means you arent winning
Basically
Yes
Going 3-3 is a bad outcome unless your MMR is gigahigh
How do I win better
play more
Like how do I go from 3 wins to 4
Answering beyond that is like trying to tell a blind person how a color looks
we are missing crucial information to give you that
What’s the crucial tip you would give someone to eek out 1 more win
play more
I'd shoot him a dm with an invite tbh
Every fotm reroller is a potential future brother who will not stray from the path of the warrior
there's no secret tech internet gurus can give you 😔
Do more damage and stuns
sounds like schemes from Big Totem inc.
The crucial tip is always damage
keep rolling the dice
Little pecker totem club
When do you guys press slam these days
I don't, but I play prot
Slam is useful now
slam is mortal strike's big brother
Right so I guess I may be overthinking it all but when do slam vs ms
Ok
100% its always something you can do better
But we dont know that because we cant see the game
I saw myself on a supatease stream lobby and I actually cannot deny it helped watching me play lol
Just win 4head
i really should record myself too but it always just felt so weird/nerdy
said the same thing on LoL for so many years
same with watching streamers
rather just play lol
I don't even record myself training to check my form, and technically my life is at stake there.
yeah i should do that too 😭
If I can't do that in a setting that matters, I struggle to do arenas seriously enough record those
I dont record shit, either I can win and dont have to change shit, or I cant win and have to change shit
works out great ngl
MS or slam 🤔
Like using a ms without any modifiers is just dumb right dudes
chad mentality
bet you play without addons
I wouldnt hold MS for jack shit unless I have a huge cooldown coming up within 4 seconds
just rawdogging arenas
noo lmao
i mean if you just wait and wait to get modifiers its prob big loss in dps
it is
You send MS on CD unless that CD is so long that you cant get it on cooldowns immediately
if i can reliably kick heal id go up 200 rating np
always send MS. I think slam is for scoring kills or for when IP isn't going to matter
I only slam if Ms or overpower isn’t up
I get juked so often i win more when i unbind kick
feels bad
that's so amazing
just mash mash mash
run some pve, use heikili a bit
thats some solid practice ngl
Got HoJ on 123 Macros and gained 300 rating my first season on ret lmao
what do you even press for that
the arena frame sort addon from skillcapped hasn't been working either; much easier if the healer is always at the top i imagine
Lmao, i went slightly different direction
action targetting enabled and just confusing the absolute shit out of people with my rapid target changes
Is hoj off the global cooldown
I just glance at it
nope
Is putting it on a macro a good idea then or am I missing something
tbh I'd prefer if cc had reduced gcd but duration reduced by the same amount
Its a stun
that is on a marco for easier targetting
So I dont have to look over
as colossus warr slam just replaces execute outside of sudden death procs
You can do the same macro on Bolt, it serves the same purpose
i use focus target macro for stunning healer at least
Hate focus stuff lmao
Small changes can become big rating seings
THAT'S OK I RESPECT YOU BRO
There's a new addon I've been meaning to try out called Cells
I think I can do something magical with it
bgb easiest 2400 of my life
It's what aug evokers use to perfectly time their bullshit in pve
NO
SS is also gigaeasy tbh
At 2200 people still dont know what they are doing
It's not about being easy or hard
In the end rating is meaningless. All that matters is position on the ladder
inflation still goin wild?
yep
woof
I can only dream of getting to 2200
No doubt I can hit 2400 real quick once I have time to sit down and game
I mean I stop at 1800 always so I'll never know
im about to hit 2100 so something is off
but I can still dream that I'll have the endurance to keep pushing and find out what I could do
1800-2100 is such a small leap
It's at least 14 wins if you're maxing rating per win
i was on a heater on my 2200-2400 run in bgb, 7 wins in a row, high rolled good teams
and when i lost, lost no rating
watch r1 streamers how they play
or well warriors
Buff hunters
cba I have never seen more "press w to win" spec
those black arrows made my war look like hedgehog
did you win with slayer or chadlossus
the funniest thing was I felt 0 difference between rounds...same scenario every time...so no diff between good or bad bm...or maybe all 3 were bad
slayer
still nice though
king shit

I am so glad he isnt dev...look how dude would balance game...nothing about feral btw
lmfao who let him cook
arms just got a 15% ms buff and he said "take it away"
Sharpen MS is stronger than normal MS, aka storm of destruc
hmm so if they don't stack, then I'd think keep sharpen for after storm of destruction bladestorm for sustained healing reduction
but if I don't play storm of destruction then use sharpen pre-BS
or am I reading it wrong
I've always tried to use sharpen for that final MS kill secure, but using it for extra pressure sounds nice too
but if BS already reduces 50% healing for 10 sec then I save
And it's preferrable to Sharpen pre-BS or after BS, cuz Unhinged can be troll sometimes
and Unhinged MS doesn't benefit from Sweeping anymore

you got full list maybe xD?
nah, need to watch video...15% black arrow nerf for bm
but its in his imagination only
any elusive 2% movespeed gem enjoyers?
kind of a joke
guys, how do you deal with full caster lobby in solo?
when I run after one they run, the other hits me
if I chase they kill me
if I dont chase and keep hitting nearest they rotate their defensives
help
Chase easier to kill target
Dont be afraid to leap behind pillar to live or line some dmg
arguments for elemental focusing lens 2x vs ascendace + writhing? or mix it up w/ascendance + elemental?
consistent dam vs random secondary pretty much?
Can we play meat cleaver on some RBG ?
I think I answered my question 😄 consistent flow of secondary vs consistent flow of extra magic dam
i mean one is just +dps, the other has ramping time and stacks
so just base it off that :b
What we stacking these days on colossus?
wait, chasing takes you to what 1800 not above right?
if you chase they cc your healer and kill you behind pillar
your healer has to run to their pillar
You do know you can create a situation in which you dont die behind a pillar, right?
Healer out of cc, noone to cc him, DRs, walls, your own cc, bladestorm being a cc immunity and doing big burst
Also, you want to just juggle between defensives?
Oh nice warlock used pact, let me just swap a target and come back to him when its back
Oh nice now mage use alter time, swapping back to lock
Oh no they used ps on him now, back to mage
Oh my goodness, now its cc chains and roots
Well, I can slowly walk to warlock who has pact again, nice
Sure, swapping targets is fine, but you still have a target you want to kill
You gotta kill
yes, I guess it needs the healer to be able to walk up also when they realise the situation and the other dps
it wont do if they hug our pillar for example and I go alone
All depends on cds and drs
You can VERY safely go to enemy pillar if none of them have any cds
And they cant full stun you cuz of drs
In arms is mastery just a straight increase on dmg? Sorta like versatility?
Mastery increases deep wounds and the dmg taken %
So deep wounds ticks for higher?
This is pretty straight forward
The more mastery you have the higher the % at the end is
Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds
This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.
The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.
Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.
Why most op peaple use blood token set
Mastery should be something else entirely and deep wounds should just be baked into the spec baseline
That's just my two cents 
Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds
This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.
The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.
Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.
Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds
This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.
The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.
Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.
is DH a good comp with warrior
No
Ret is so strong
Couldn't go wrong
Idk just an article...crit haste seems good for col arms
Lol like when Arms used to sit at 35% haste in pvp constantly
if i dont have haste as arms i feel miserable
Holy shit I just now realized
You know how some rogues absolutely flip their shit if you stun anything anytime?
That's the rogues running a burst macro with built in stuns
It's really just more that Subtlety doesn't pressure if it isn't getting cc into bursts.
So your little 1 second storm bolt on the healer who is about to come off dr isn't appreciated
they do it to ferals who have big stuns as well
monks
It's not about length of stun, it's about them wanting control, and I suspect the people I play with at low ratings are the ones who struggle with improvising
Idk voice chat is an option and have them call for it, something simple like get next. They’re more likely tracking the stun DR than the war. But I’m no high rated player, seems logical to me for them to call it though. Then again I’m lazy and zug zug
Normally I'd wait for a rogue to go in and sap and do all the stunning on the kill target while I put some cc of my own on the other targets. Preferably fears because at least that won't get overlapped with stuns
in other words
Man I wish more guides would separate the stuff you can do into beginner and advanced stuff
I gave up a lot of classes after they added talent points and I feel like maybe I don't really need to worry about feint right now
no its ??? and ???

Yeah, they asked the qeustion "what class is going to be having the best time across all pvp content"
Is presvoker even good anymore
i have no clue
Warlock yeah
Paladin should 100% be there ngl
Hpala is still great, even amazing, ret is good in BGB and SS
Prot is prot
Dont get the deva tbh, presvoker has fallen so hard, devastation is like high mid tier
Druid has one really good spec, an awful healing spec and a mid-tier ranged spec
Warlock is warlock so absurd
I never really feel warlock is much trouble
again it sort of feels like enh turns every notion about op/not op on its head
enjoy dealing 30% less damage 100% of the time
Enhance is weird as fuck and nobody knows what they do lmao
true
I still don't quite get why we should ever have access to lava lash and ice strike at the same time. Imho they should be an very early choice node and change the entire right side of the tree to either lava or ice elements
And then we have sundering that triggers an aoe from a totem that just melts people
and there's meatballs but nobody in the history of ever has played with meatballs. It's spicy meatball or zero balls
Enhance lowkey looks fun
it's stupid amounts of fun
Played it s bit while leveling
even when I lose I'm having a good time
it's like being fury, but you also have caster levels of utility that allows for ridiculous skill expression
thunder storm healer behind a pillar and root them -> frost shock immediately after when they waste a global on dispel
put a stun totem on warlock gate and watch them port into a stun
trade off is that people don't take you seriously and you have to work harder for your big dam
It just has so much SHIT to keep track off
Compared to the specs im used to
fucking like 9 different damage dealing buttons in PvE at least lmao
You know me, I'm bordering on brain dead and I don't think there's a lot to keep track of
Do feel like a fucking god when I get to Lighting bolt 8 targets though
I don't even play that build atm
Also Enhance sound design is on POINT
absolutely
Did while leveling, it feels amazing when it goes off
I just play storm x totem build
I'm currently levelling sub and survival
maybe I'm getting hooked on playing stupid bullshit. I still haven't even entered rated on my warrior yet because I keep hoarding conq and btokens
Super undecided on what I want to do with the war right now
lmao
I just need an alt for next season
along with hitting 1800 on warr every season for transmog
outside of that I just know I will play Ret so its pretty easy
Just that leveling+gearing makes me SAD
Just cba leveling 72-80, and 50-80 then knowing I have to gear
Maybe get another ret paladin thats purely for PvE
afflic was good nerfed
its strong but not uber broken like before
Nah they're fine, hunters haven't been meta in 15 years. Let them have their time in the sun. - Probably every single hunter queueing right now.
Just cc and kite their pets, and have a defensive up for black arrow everytime it's up, and don't queue, and they're fine
idk feels to hard
im hardstuck 2300 rating becous of BMs feels like
There's a lot of shit that needs tuning. Sick of eles and afflocks too. You'll be fine and then all of a sudden an ele hits the lottery and kills you
I've been seeing more success just ignoring the hunter and killing their homies atm . throwing cc on them when I can. Most hunters seem to be decent at kiting for themselves but default to monkey brain dpsing if ignored.
Not like sitting on them stops their damage really. Even if you hit someone else you can still shockwave the pets during bestial wrath and fuck a good bit of their dmaage
Is there any site (not icy veins) that has talent builds for pvp fury warrior ?
this is cap
BM is busted, aint the reason someone is hardstuck though
You got like 2-3 months you will get it lmao
MMR inflation is so high in Solo Shuffle
Thanks
I learned it quite late given I could only use it on my last couple toons, but doing each delve once for their quest is good exp. Do them all, save the quest turns in till around 77 or so and it gets me to 80. At least with the current exp bonuses
Yeah but leveling
when do they uncap conquest
After everyone quits anyways
Typically after everyone has conquest to have full gear+a lil more
Independent of crafting
end of the month is what I heard
But when will they 5x gains?
NEVER

Best way to buy gear on a fresh 80 char? Dont Wanna fuck up the buy order haha
murlok io and just kinda copy the popular items really
maybe use glad weapon since you get one free and save epic heraldries for something else
thats all
Yeah was thinking buy 2 glad weapon, but is the sword better ?
Yeah, but seems like crafting sword is stronger then the poelarm?
People use the crafted weapon for the embelishment
Is it better? Probably.
But you can save a ton of conquest by just using the free weapons
And using the heraldries on rings and neck or something like that
Yeah true
My main has crafted weap cause I've been gearing the whole season. Alts, I just will get the free weapons
99% who have crafted weapon just got it week 1 lol
before free conquest was out
i thought it was for the embel but it seems like every class has plenty of other pieces to use for it
The weapons have embelishments that can only be on the weapons tho. Some specs don't care for them
This looks good for an alt who can buy in perfect way
yep
had to buy weapon on paladin anyways
to swap embellishments lmao
feels like the embellish warrior was rocking just wasnt impactful enough compared to other specs
oh, ok, TIL this makes a lot more sense now
even still the opinion on those changed a bit
Idk, I still just rock it... cause I do idk
i swapped to lens on everyone cause of the simplicity lol
and it just seemed cooler
RP Still matters
Maybe I need to swap to lens. Seems that's what people are doing. But ewww, do I really want to have to use a bunch of different colored gems?
oh you dont need to
just need 1 normal gem for it to proc
the color is just for the RP
Doesn't do more with more different colors or something like that?
Seems I has research to do
i think the other embels need the different gems though
I haven't been sweating pvp much
but not lens =p
single non-meta gem
I just queue once every in a whole. I run in, bust on kids, and move on
Do ppl go haste now? Comin back a bit on my warrior and a few weeks ago ppl seemed to stack mastery?
Fury mastery, arms haste. As far as I know
ahhh
i love pvp inflation
i was 1950
at 1950mmr
before the mmr boost
i log in
do shuffle
2133 mmr
three lobbies in a row 
deserved?
Number go up.
Oh, I gotta get reflex again. Mine was causing like a million errors at one point after a patch.
in 3 lobbies that should be negative hahahhahahaha
AAHHAHAHAHA
I HAD THAT LAST LOBBY
WITH PET ON FUCKING PASSIVE!?
nah bro
xD
my ui bugged or sth i dont klnow hhahahaha
trash
Yeah
thats what everyone got
I played one game at 1800mmr, where it started me
boosted me to like 2k
lmao
ye i was way past placements tho xD
So its pretty wild
1970-2.1k = 230mmr
seems about right
1600 starting mmr, started at somewhere around 1800+
fun stuff
Artji can play like a 1200 player and fly up the ratings. It's all so free these days
i mean
lmao
you sure did style in that 1-5 lobby
With the passive pet ye
warmup
first shuffle in a month or so
xD
also my gear 
nice mog
❤️ thanks
thats how it works
its not me who makes the rules
okay dude placement games?
Maybe
I did like... 4 or 5 lobbies a month prior, and that was it
I don't no life like you Artji
I have a job
So were yours placements?
@fierce elm How have you not helped this man get out and get bitches yet?
afro was busy asking me to tank his keys
You play arms... so tank as in deplete? He knows there's a panda that can drop the key for him right?
biggest brain 👍
tanking is actually fun in pve
What I do. I can't trust others to do it anyways
ye but youre worse region
werent you?
but hey at least youre going to be great again soon
If we're the worse region, why we got the new bike huh?

And yeah, I'm guessing big changes coming. Red sweep
ye we can have it too
you couldn't even keep it in NA
NICE BORDER CONTROL LIL FELLA
if trump was a president the day it was releeased it'd probably stay in NA only
does anyone have bis list for pvp fury
smh man
slacker
how are you going to get me my mount if youre not even on the gamer juice?
hello?
Expeditions
Its called blood something iirc
I have the full set but cba logging in lmao
Is this patch .0.7?
Bloodwake yeah
Island expeditions?
What website is venruki using in this vid I can't find these sort of stats
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yooo
didnt know u were into d&d, I have a club where we play every week
outside a couple of oneshots it's been years since I last played
used to be in 3rd edition
but i love D&D
obviously barbarian 4 lyfe
or in 5e moon druid is nice as well
Y’all know what addon this is for the numbers to look like that?
probably scrolling combat text
Cool
nameplateSCT
I hate combat text addons, because they all put numbers on a fixed place on the screen instead of anchor them to the targets
I want to watch where someone goes after nameplates fade by looking at dot ticks
bm hunter is pretty cool
if you can't play enh, sure
Should be
Okay cool.

