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lavish quest
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Homie thought his team was wrong because they didn't want prot in the team fight

wheat jay
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Prot is ass in teamfights

chilly magnet
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I love prot on wsg

wheat jay
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In no situation would you ever prefer Prot over arms or fury

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So the best course of action for a tank is to play for objectives

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Which they told you to do

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Especially in silverwhatever mines where you can play dragon charge to knock people into water

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Or away from your circle

chilly magnet
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Eye of the storm

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Knocking people off flag is damn fun and disrupting

wheat jay
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Useful there, though its still better for tank to defend base there

boreal veldt
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what mmr is this cause sub 2100 this is a moot question

cinder thorn
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1600

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the team is often useless, I was 3v1 at one base for example, and they didn't take rest of map

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because some idiots were doing 3v1 somewhere else instead of capping rest of map vs a dps and they couldnt kill him

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I agree that teams who cant capitalise on having a tank wont benefit from it

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some people just dont know how to play against one ,or with

rancid granite
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kinda? people wanna 'carry' and have the main hero syndrome

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kinda gotta help the helpless help themselves and go with the flow sometimes

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and sometimes going against it can cause some chaos and wont have a good outcome?

green wharf
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dont @ me afro

rancid granite
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ret paladins and rogues

cinder thorn
rancid granite
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did you win the match tho

wheat jay
rancid granite
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hammer of light dmg 👍

tawny pollen
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haste or vers ring enchant for arms?

rancid granite
sharp meteor
green wharf
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if you dont have 30% haste arms why bother

tawny pollen
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my vers is 29.3% and haste is 16.5% so i wasn't too sure

green wharf
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yeah need to pump that haste

tawny pollen
cinder thorn
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how tf is a DH with all greens and no enchants or gems doing more damage than people with full gear

boreal veldt
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could be a lot of things

cinder thorn
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yes but not this much disparity

boreal veldt
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report him

wheat jay
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100% cheater

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Seriously tho, geared people must just suck lol

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He should never be outdamaging anyone xD

cinder thorn
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Well he's Russian so wouldn't put it past him

exotic forge
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he's also playing dh lol

wheat jay
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Dh kinda dogshit now

kind sentinel
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I love that Hammer of Light is bassically just Demolish but good

wheat jay
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Dh basically took the spot of frost dk

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Lmao

green wharf
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Dhs are twats with that evasion crap

wheat jay
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You mean rng blur?

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Thats not guaranteed dodge

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If rng is on your side you can kill through it

cinder thorn
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I have never killed a DH

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I decided early on that going after them is pointless

wheat jay
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Dh kinda flops, very limited amount of walls

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Bursts once every 30 seconds, with eye beam

green wharf
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and they get full hp every time they do that

copper fox
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Dh definitely dies

cinder thorn
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does anyone have leech on their gear?

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how much does 3000 leech give u in %

wheat jay
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Every 10s if they purge something and pick up the soul they get a small heal

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Smaller heals if they proc rng soul from chaos strike

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Right now dh is weak, predictable, and easy to shut down

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Stun eye beam that always comes after sigil of flsme

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Gg you take zero dmg now cuz eye beam is their biggest burst okayge

green wharf
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i dont think they are hard, just annoying twats

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in DF they were obnoxious

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i remember getting killed by a dumb skill that goes to the sky and nukes you

copper fox
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DF dh was ridiculous lol

runic crypt
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if im in a solo shuffle as the only melee what talents can i swap/do because i just went into a spriest evoker and mage lobby i was just useless

green wharf
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i still have a pic saved

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he was lmost dying jut flew up and nuked me

wheat jay
green wharf
distant dagger
amber heron
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Leech is massive 1%

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So when a feral uses rip on u for 400,000 tics

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U can feel safer

verbal tangle
amber heron
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It will hit u for 398,000

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HUGE

hasty pulsar
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like are you saying the leech talent is good

amber heron
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leech is useless

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Is what he means

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He is right

verbal tangle
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Like the Leech talent itself isn't terrible

hasty pulsar
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oh i see what you mean

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interesting

amber heron
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Its leech on gear

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Dh leach on abilities is massive

verbal tangle
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But a leech pve item is ratfucked

hasty pulsar
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doesnt meta give insane leech

verbal tangle
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Ye

hasty pulsar
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annoying

verbal tangle
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Like 30% iirc

amber heron
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Its a “hyrbid” class

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Cough blizzard is gay

hasty pulsar
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why isnt dh very common right now anyway

exotic forge
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you clearly never fought dh back in df pre-patch

hasty pulsar
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is their dam bad or something

exotic forge
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they were so busted it's not even funny

amber heron
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Nah dh is ok

verbal tangle
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Defensives

amber heron
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Just dies in stuns

hasty pulsar
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i still find blur so annoying lmao

amber heron
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And its not the best into casters

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If u get rooted u cant leech

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I think its better then what dh mains say tho

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Solid b+

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A-

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I think war is awful

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C+

boreal veldt
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man blitz hits different with the diddy kong racing 64 soundtrack blasting

green wharf
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i believe that i live more in pvp cause i put a leech enchant on my cape

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not because the movespeed one was too expensive at that time

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it was all due to planning

boreal veldt
# green wharf the what mate

01 - Title Theme [00:00]
02 - Choose your Racer [01:08]
03 - Main Menu [03:11]
04 - Intro [04:39]
05 - Entranced [05:42]
06 - Main Lobby Area [07:21]
07 - Dino Domain [09:30]
08 - TT's Theme [11:32]
09 - Race Start Fanfare [13:56]
10 - Ancient Lake [14:00]
11 - Fossil Canyon [16:38]
12 - Jungle Falls [19:26]
13 - Hot Top Volcano [21:48]
14 - Fir...

▶ Play video
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shit slaps during dog doodoo blitz matches

green wharf
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i though you were going somwhere elsse with the diddy racing

rancid granite
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lmao

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donkey kong music so good I didn't even make the connection til you said it

boreal veldt
green wharf
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set for the next patch, looking good to kill some people conan style

sour herald
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yo fellas

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i messed up at the beginning of the season and got the wrong wep

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Is it worth to craft the other weapon to replace it

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The greatsword i believe

boreal veldt
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unless you drop vers for haste/mast that is

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which i wouldn't recommend

sour herald
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makes sense

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elemental focusing lens is the move then?

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on the rings?

boreal veldt
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ye grab lenses if you don't have anything and make sure your jewlery is stated appropriately cause those are your biggest secondary stat sticks

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you far from cooked my brotha

sour herald
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sick sick

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tysm fam

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do i just use 2 lenses

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on ring and neck?

boreal veldt
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2 ye, can chuck em in any 2 crafted pieces you want

sour herald
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so u think im good?

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with this wep?

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couldnt i craft wep with vers+mastery and i would be better off?

boreal veldt
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i'm just noticing you still got a nice lil green trink that could be more purple is all

sour herald
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would you replace bloody token wrists with conquest wrists or craft the weapon

sour herald
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and capped for the week

boreal veldt
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ahh

sour herald
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what would u do

sour herald
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i want to socket my wrists but maybe it would be more worth it to do conquest wrists instead

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thats why im pondering here lol

exotic forge
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Depends on what stats you're trying to prioritize

sour herald
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what u think i should prio?

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wait wrong screenshot

boreal veldt
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bout to say

sour herald
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yea im recrafting

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LMAO

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forgot i didnt have my shit on

verbal tangle
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Trust

exotic forge
sour herald
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sec ill send

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the stats in a bit

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tryna recraft this shit

chilly magnet
boreal veldt
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i gotta level a jc and a tailor so i can just recraft my own pvp jewlery and cape

sour herald
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ok so

sour herald
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@boreal veldt @exotic forge

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yall let me kno im desperate LMAO

boreal veldt
# sour herald

your stats look good, you could maybe gem into high vers + haste and enchant haste

sour herald
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hmm ok

boreal veldt
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18% is a bit squishy vers wise

sour herald
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so weapon or wrists then?

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i think wrist right

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so i can socket

boreal veldt
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i'd go wrist

sour herald
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thanks a lot bro

boreal veldt
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and i'd also throw the wrists in the catalyst

sour herald
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rly?

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for the haste?

boreal veldt
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no for the vers

sour herald
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they got vers already tho

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😮

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id buy these

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and socket it with vers/mast or vers/haste idk yet

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what u think

boreal veldt
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i think that's fine ye

exotic forge
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Holy mastery

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Yeah I'd go with more vers

boreal veldt
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yeah you're gonna be a bit squishy so tip your healers

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i get away with it at 25% as colossus cause we get a free 2.5% reduction naturally

boreal veldt
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i didn't know goblin mines could crit, got a 1.3mil crit with em lol

stark agate
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How do you beat Ret/BM/Pres

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Literally the most braindead shit I've had the displeasure of fighting

exotic forge
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Pray

abstract dew
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where do you get the transmogs after hitting rival?

distant dagger
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In bgb?

abstract dew
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ah automatically in my stuff yay

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damn i switched to fury and it was so much easier, sad day lol

stiff storm
fierce elm
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Paladin doesnt do much there

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But really BM is just a unstoppable thing, your best hope is killing ret

urban skiff
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time to live the dream of guardian druid

fierce elm
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lmao

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I member convoke cheese from guardian with boomkin affinity

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this is just the same thing

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Time to level druid I guess because this wont be changed

green wharf
green wharf
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its what i said brother, upcoming set for the next patch

green wharf
urban skiff
exotic forge
jovial torrent
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disgusting mage

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literally spent like 80 hours in queue alone so far

crystal merlin
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Any tips of what to buy next with conq or just general gear improvement?

jovial torrent
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are your trinkets conquest ones or just leveled up pve wise

exotic forge
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They're both conq it seems

exotic forge
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Unless you're not playing into haste which idk why you wouldn't do that

urban skiff
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apparently people are gearing up to complain about enh now

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1m dps is chump damage right?

rancid granite
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1m dps on how many things and for how long though is the better context right

jovial torrent
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turbo back bby

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been seeing alot of hunters pump 900k dmg too tbh in my games

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spriests hovering around 800k too

copper fox
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I played fury sp last night and got farmed by turbo. Finished @ 2182… went 4-9 because of that turbo 😭

fierce elm
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BM is doing straight up 800-900k consistently lmao

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post cooldowns and across an entire game

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also 2v2 melee is bound to have bonkers damage

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1 million standstill cleave aint bad

lavish quest
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We all rerolling BM? New warrior spec

exotic forge
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Last time I saw BM being this obnoxious was in MoP and my opinion hasn't changed since then

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They never should've added interrupt immunity to Revive Pet. I'll die on this hill

urban skiff
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@fierce elm fucked my shoulder. Bench max went up 2kg

hasty pulsar
urban skiff
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About time too, after my last 531 reset i was worried i had backed too far off

fierce elm
urban skiff
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I stopped 1-3 reps off my AMRAP set. Also accidentally put 107.5 on bar instead of 107. Idk. It was about time i started to move my max again

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A win is a win. Now comes to fun grind where it'll go up every 3 week cycle on my 3+ weekm

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So excited. Wish ohp was doing as well

jovial torrent
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getting a bit tired of arena

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every week they giga buff one class

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lost 38 rating for going 2-4

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such bs

jade kestrel
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is haste suddenly valued high for fury in pvp or what? Thought it was full vers mastery

fierce elm
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checkmate

urban skiff
# fierce elm I HATE small plate math

Sure if it's a commercial gym. But my own plates down change weight every week. So I figure I'm exempt from the reasons one shouldn't.

Also it's putting 1.25s on instead of 1.0s in this case. The 2.5s and 1.25s are same colour so I just like them more..

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Aesthetic plate math

jovial torrent
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we only have 2.5kg plates as smallest

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which is fine tbh

rancid granite
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dude was a barbarian who had Tigers and ferrets and shit help him

fierce elm
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either I jump 2.5 per side or I die

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thats just the way it is

urban skiff
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It's been infinitely easier to program since getting micro plates

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I don't have to worry about how to round anything. I just put numbers into my Excel and put whatever it says on the bar

fierce elm
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it is

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But I got that PRIDE IN ME

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Also cant workout monday or tuesdsy

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not even sure if I can workout Wed-fri

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Touching up tattoos on Monday, school stuff tuesday

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Dont know how much we are touching up but not a good idea to workout with an open wound

urban skiff
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Man I want tattoos so bad. I just can't figure out where to begin

fierce elm
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I just sent it

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fuck it

jovial torrent
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im too indecisive id want to change them a year or two later

urban skiff
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Got a bunch of surgery scars that could be cool to incorporate somehow

fierce elm
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Gonna plan next one on monday too and thats gonna take an hour or two if not more

fierce elm
urban skiff
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Thing is, I can get a tattoo or i can get LEGO D&D red dragons tale.

fierce elm
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Or just cover that shit up

urban skiff
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Lego had better resale value

fierce elm
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I got one when 18, one when 21, covered both at 27

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Just working on covering body rn, so gonna get entire upper arm+half chest with the next one

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which is gonna be aids

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Sometimes you just gotta send shit for the sake of sending it

dapper walrus
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Hey there! For the First time in my wow career I started to play rated PvP and i am having so much fun!

Having Mixed success (curre!&ly 1.7 in SS and 1.4 in 2s after few matches) and now i am questioning myself: how do you improve in PvP?

I cant really find Guides for PvP, except for builds and Gear (e.g. murlok.io).
How do i know who to Focus? How can i Check If my "Rotation" is correct and i am contributing enough ?
Right now for me it feels a bit random, If i win or lose. Playing mostly Arms Slayer build and Sometime I struggle to Finish an opponet of.

How do i Set Up Kills for example?
Would be really Happy, If someone can give me some advice and Tips!

fierce elm
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For setting up kills, keep track of what your partner is doing in SS and 2s

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If they are on Stun/fear DR

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What most warriors suck at is using intervene and disarm correctly, not just spamming it randomly

dapper walrus
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Will probably do these mistakes. ^^
K, will try to Play more and get more exp.
What Happens quiet often to me, is that i cant Stick to a dedicated target (e.g. one target gets called while Timer is running in SS )
I try to build pressure on another target than, until i can Leap/charge/intervene/ Run again at target.
Is this normal or an I doing smth wrong there?

dapper walrus
fierce elm
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Your best bet is to hit w.e is closest if you cant gap close

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so yes, that is correct

jovial torrent
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i just cant seem to hit 2100 , every time i get that stupid map with the pillar in mid and everyone kites opposite sides

exotic forge
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I have a hate/love relationship with maldraxxus col

jovial torrent
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thats my fave one tbh

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would be nice if it was like 10% smaller

exotic forge
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it just got me 2,1k but hell no if you're fighting double ranged

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ESPECIALLY frost mages

jovial torrent
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i just keep having to walk out and heal which then gets me landed into a point click stun, poly poly poly, or like sleep poly clone ect ect

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might flick back to my pala, both mw and pala are about 2050

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atleast ive gotten like 4k conquest saved up for when my dragon fw hits 80

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every game ive gotten a mage on my team who loses the first round for me

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and then somehow clutches the last rounds to fuck my draw

fierce elm
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Mugambala is a wack map

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Especially as warrior

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If they are playing downstairs you just fucked tbh

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Same with that DF arena that has the wall in the middle

exotic forge
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Mugambala is so troll lmao

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no pun intended

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like, it's not bad but it's not great either

rancid granite
jovial torrent
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this fucking game

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i just lost 70 rating

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legit close to never qing healer again

rancid granite
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do better and you wont lose rating

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like i just said, q and keep q'ing and you get better

jovial torrent
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the problem is

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i go 5-1 i gain like 30 rating

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i go 1-5 i lose 70

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and most of my day is wasted by 0 rating change 3-3

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just frustrating having 0 control over 0-6 dps

rancid granite
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its only wasted if you didn't learn/improve

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🙏

fierce elm
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You absolutely have control over the game as a healer

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compared to a singular dps

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unless that DPS is an assa rogue or feral

rancid granite
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step #1 in never improving is blaming team

jovial torrent
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0/6 dps who runs to narnia putting me in a bad spot

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jsut sucks

rancid granite
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run to narnia with him bro

fierce elm
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run with him lmao

copper fox
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^

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Yea you have 100% control

jovial torrent
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yeh yeh yeh

copper fox
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Reposition yourself

jovial torrent
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it just feels like shit

copper fox
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Healing definitely feels like shit

jovial torrent
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running in eating a insta stun into chain cc which noone kcisk

rancid granite
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healing is so calming and simple lol

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at least when i play holy paladin

haughty jewel
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bm hunter is more calming

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just play that

jovial torrent
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its just the q times

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i much pref dps but i really dont wana wait

fierce elm
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but your other option is losing

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Playing melee in SS really forces you to take risks if everyone is playing pillar

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your best bet is adapting to them

jovial torrent
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im playing MW and hpal atm

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cus i cba with 15 min q

rancid granite
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i had a priest yelling at me while behind pillar 1, vs 2 locks on another pillar

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he ended up losing rating

haughty jewel
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before gates open

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and if they decide to be noobs and we lose then oh well

fierce elm
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I just chase

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either they come with me or not

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works out pretty well so far

haughty jewel
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oh word cracker

fierce elm
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The only thing I pre-communicate is if I play with an hpala due to being a ret

jovial torrent
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i should just level my other war, playing classes i dislike is bad for my mental

fierce elm
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so they understand that they should NOT BOP or LOH me

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works 80% of the time

jovial torrent
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this map just tilts the fuck out of me

fierce elm
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Its a healers nightmare

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so makes sense

jovial torrent
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get ride of those side rooms and replace with 2 pillars

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sorted

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or remove teps

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steps

lavish quest
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I kinda like the map

jovial torrent
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i like it as anything other than healer without voice

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people just panic blink over random sides of pillar

urban skiff
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even if I'm swearing every time i miss a kill because of the dumb pillar in the mid

hot solstice
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love when my team refuses to push that room for enemy lock though they got drd on every cc school imaginable

jovial torrent
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so many 0-6 dps today, and most of them are hunters

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and mages

dapper walrus
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But i think this will come with time

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Btw are there any Warrior streamers than you can recommend?
I know Bajheera but a few more for conparrison would be nice.

fierce elm
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Bajheera, Magnus

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sometimes Whazz does warrior, trillebartom also does warrior sometimes

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Generally just watch a lot of streams, the more you understand how each spec works the better

sharp meteor
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I think Mag is playing a viable class (bm hunter).

boreal veldt
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Baj has great "well i'm just gonna hit what i can i guess" energy, cause we do end up getting kited a lot, good reminder you can truck a healer if they wander close to the danger zone.

fierce elm
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But really, just watch whoever is playing warrior at a decent rank

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even if they arent 'warrior' mains, they still have knowledge that you need

jovial torrent
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ye once a pala has used his bubble and wall he flops just as hard as any other dps, alot of times i have to bubble cc cus dmg is so high in 3's atm

boreal veldt
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even larosw swapped to bm hunter lol

patent forum
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He still plays his fury

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He just gave up on arms

boreal veldt
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rip

jovial torrent
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have people settled on secondaries for fury now, i havent been keeping up, are they going full mastery or like 2 mastery accesories + a haste

patent forum
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There are people in both camps

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Full mastery / mastery and haste

jovial torrent
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yeh ive seen some play full haste some full mastery

patent forum
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I have 2 wars that I geared differently

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At the end of the day, it’s pretty much the same

jovial torrent
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ye im guna be leveling my dragon war soon and im guna have him be mastery

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my first war is arms haste atm

hot solstice
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2200 mmr monk...16 dispels only one on frost nova vs mage fdk....question: how this person even got to 2200?

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no tiger lust at all

sharp meteor
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mode has 80% perma damp

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non healin globals sometimes throwin the game

rancid granite
hasty pulsar
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What does it mean if I keep going 3-3 drawing in solo shuffle

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Like I must just be missing crucial swaps and/or something

urban skiff
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Bro should ask in here instead of clogging up reddit

boreal veldt
urban skiff
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You have to deal with .. ugh.. redditors

dense herald
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making a reddit post asking which enchant to get is actually crazy

rancid granite
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if he cant figure out google

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how you think he's gonna find thisd place

fierce elm
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Basically

hasty pulsar
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Yes

fierce elm
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Going 3-3 is a bad outcome unless your MMR is gigahigh

hasty pulsar
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How do I win better

rancid granite
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play more

hasty pulsar
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Like how do I go from 3 wins to 4

fierce elm
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Answering beyond that is like trying to tell a blind person how a color looks

rancid granite
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play more

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how to get good at lifting weights -> lift weights

fierce elm
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we are missing crucial information to give you that

hasty pulsar
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What’s the crucial tip you would give someone to eek out 1 more win

rancid granite
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play more

urban skiff
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Every fotm reroller is a potential future brother who will not stray from the path of the warrior

rancid granite
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there's no secret tech internet gurus can give you 😔

fierce elm
rancid granite
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sounds like schemes from Big Totem inc.

fierce elm
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The crucial tip is always damage

urban skiff
urban skiff
hasty pulsar
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When do you guys press slam these days

urban skiff
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I don't, but I play prot

fierce elm
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Slam is useful now

urban skiff
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slam is mortal strike's big brother

hasty pulsar
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Right so I guess I may be overthinking it all but when do slam vs ms

fierce elm
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Your best bet is to record shit

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if you wanna figure out stuff

hasty pulsar
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Ok

fierce elm
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100% its always something you can do better

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But we dont know that because we cant see the game

hasty pulsar
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I saw myself on a supatease stream lobby and I actually cannot deny it helped watching me play lol

lavish quest
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Just win 4head

rancid granite
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i really should record myself too but it always just felt so weird/nerdy

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said the same thing on LoL for so many years

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same with watching streamers

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rather just play lol

urban skiff
rancid granite
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yeah i should do that too 😭

urban skiff
#

If I can't do that in a setting that matters, I struggle to do arenas seriously enough record those

fierce elm
#

I dont record shit, either I can win and dont have to change shit, or I cant win and have to change shit

#

works out great ngl

rancid granite
#

hammer of light then bubble? or bubble then hammer of light

#

so much to review

fierce elm
#

MS or slam 🤔

hasty pulsar
#

Like using a ms without any modifiers is just dumb right dudes

fierce elm
#

All about small changes that you have to try out

#

Wdym without modifiers

urban skiff
#

bet you play without addons

fierce elm
#

I wouldnt hold MS for jack shit unless I have a huge cooldown coming up within 4 seconds

urban skiff
#

just rawdogging arenas

fierce elm
rancid granite
#

i mean if you just wait and wait to get modifiers its prob big loss in dps

fierce elm
#

it is

hasty pulsar
#

Right ok

#

So just send ms at all times right

#

That’s the confusion I’ve had a bit

fierce elm
#

You send MS on CD unless that CD is so long that you cant get it on cooldowns immediately

rancid granite
urban skiff
#

always send MS. I think slam is for scoring kills or for when IP isn't going to matter

hasty pulsar
#

I only slam if Ms or overpower isn’t up

urban skiff
#

feels bad

rancid granite
#

overpower / ms

#

same thing

rancid granite
#

just mash mash mash

#

run some pve, use heikili a bit

#

thats some solid practice ngl

hasty pulsar
#

I think me slamming more is my key to victory

#

Can crit for over a mil

fierce elm
rancid granite
#

what do you even press for that

fierce elm
#

alt+shift+control one of those

#

then mouseover on regular cast

rancid granite
#

the arena frame sort addon from skillcapped hasn't been working either; much easier if the healer is always at the top i imagine

urban skiff
#

action targetting enabled and just confusing the absolute shit out of people with my rapid target changes

hasty pulsar
#

Is hoj off the global cooldown

fierce elm
hasty pulsar
#

Is putting it on a macro a good idea then or am I missing something

urban skiff
#

tbh I'd prefer if cc had reduced gcd but duration reduced by the same amount

fierce elm
#

that is on a marco for easier targetting

#

So I dont have to look over

hasty pulsar
#

Ohh I see what you mean

#

That’s interesting

boreal veldt
fierce elm
#

You can do the same macro on Bolt, it serves the same purpose

rancid granite
#

i use focus target macro for stunning healer at least

fierce elm
#

Small changes can become big rating seings

rancid granite
#

it seems useful for healer tho

#

for going for the execute

urban skiff
#

but mouseover is king

fierce elm
#

I AINT DOING BGB

#

that shit CRINGE

urban skiff
#

THAT'S OK I RESPECT YOU BRO

#

There's a new addon I've been meaning to try out called Cells

#

I think I can do something magical with it

boreal veldt
#

bgb easiest 2400 of my life

urban skiff
#

It's what aug evokers use to perfectly time their bullshit in pve

fierce elm
fierce elm
#

At 2200 people still dont know what they are doing

urban skiff
#

It's not about being easy or hard

#

In the end rating is meaningless. All that matters is position on the ladder

boreal veldt
fierce elm
#

yep

boreal veldt
#

woof

urban skiff
#

I can only dream of getting to 2200

fierce elm
#

No doubt I can hit 2400 real quick once I have time to sit down and game

urban skiff
#

I mean I stop at 1800 always so I'll never know

rancid granite
#

im about to hit 2100 so something is off

urban skiff
#

but I can still dream that I'll have the endurance to keep pushing and find out what I could do

rancid granite
#

1800-2100 is such a small leap

urban skiff
#

It's at least 14 wins if you're maxing rating per win

boreal veldt
#

i was on a heater on my 2200-2400 run in bgb, 7 wins in a row, high rolled good teams

#

and when i lost, lost no rating

dense herald
#

or well warriors

hot solstice
#

AHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAH

#

arms lobby

lavish quest
#

Buff hunters

hot solstice
#

cba I have never seen more "press w to win" spec

#

those black arrows made my war look like hedgehog

rancid granite
#

did you win with slayer or chadlossus

hot solstice
#

the funniest thing was I felt 0 difference between rounds...same scenario every time...so no diff between good or bad bm...or maybe all 3 were bad

#

slayer

rancid granite
#

still nice though

exotic forge
boreal veldt
hot solstice
#

I am so glad he isnt dev...look how dude would balance game...nothing about feral btw

boreal veldt
#

arms just got a 15% ms buff and he said "take it away"

chilly magnet
#

Dudes an idiot

#

I hate rend

tiny delta
#

if you play storm of destruction

#

no reason to sharpen before bs right

lavish quest
#

Sharpen MS is stronger than normal MS, aka storm of destruc

tiny delta
#

ahh kk it's for the ms that gets thrown out

#

does the healing reduction stack

exotic forge
#

No

#

Also, word of advice: save MS for after sharpen wears off

tiny delta
#

hmm so if they don't stack, then I'd think keep sharpen for after storm of destruction bladestorm for sustained healing reduction

#

but if I don't play storm of destruction then use sharpen pre-BS

#

or am I reading it wrong

#

I've always tried to use sharpen for that final MS kill secure, but using it for extra pressure sounds nice too

#

but if BS already reduces 50% healing for 10 sec then I save

exotic forge
#

It reduces healing for 25%, not 50% (in instanced pvp)

#

the tooltip's lyin' to you

tiny delta
#

ooooo

#

mfers

exotic forge
#

and Unhinged MS doesn't benefit from Sweeping anymore

tiny delta
#

great to know

#

thank you, that's wild though lol

#

let us maximize sweeping

exotic forge
hot solstice
#

but its in his imagination only

stark agate
#

any elusive 2% movespeed gem enjoyers?

urban skiff
#

my shaman is speedy asf

cinder thorn
#

guys, how do you deal with full caster lobby in solo?

#

when I run after one they run, the other hits me

#

if I chase they kill me

#

if I dont chase and keep hitting nearest they rotate their defensives

#

help

tacit swallow
#

Play pole until you feel useless. Then keep going.

#

<1800 rated idiot

wheat jay
#

Chase easier to kill target

#

Dont be afraid to leap behind pillar to live or line some dmg

tiny delta
#

arguments for elemental focusing lens 2x vs ascendace + writhing? or mix it up w/ascendance + elemental?

#

consistent dam vs random secondary pretty much?

spiral ridge
#

Can we play meat cleaver on some RBG ?

tiny delta
#

I think I answered my question 😄 consistent flow of secondary vs consistent flow of extra magic dam

rancid granite
#

so just base it off that :b

elder island
#

What we stacking these days on colossus?

cinder thorn
#

if you chase they cc your healer and kill you behind pillar

#

your healer has to run to their pillar

wheat jay
#

You do know you can create a situation in which you dont die behind a pillar, right?

#

Healer out of cc, noone to cc him, DRs, walls, your own cc, bladestorm being a cc immunity and doing big burst

#

Also, you want to just juggle between defensives?

#

Oh nice warlock used pact, let me just swap a target and come back to him when its back

#

Oh nice now mage use alter time, swapping back to lock

#

Oh no they used ps on him now, back to mage

#

Oh my goodness, now its cc chains and roots

#

Well, I can slowly walk to warlock who has pact again, nice

#

Sure, swapping targets is fine, but you still have a target you want to kill

#

You gotta kill

cinder thorn
#

yes, I guess it needs the healer to be able to walk up also when they realise the situation and the other dps

#

it wont do if they hug our pillar for example and I go alone

wheat jay
#

All depends on cds and drs

#

You can VERY safely go to enemy pillar if none of them have any cds

#

And they cant full stun you cuz of drs

chilly magnet
#

In arms is mastery just a straight increase on dmg? Sorta like versatility?

exotic forge
#

Mastery increases deep wounds and the dmg taken %

chilly magnet
#

So deep wounds ticks for higher?

wheat jay
#

This is pretty straight forward

#

The more mastery you have the higher the % at the end is

rancid granite
#

thought i clicked rogue discord

#

damn bleed specs

chilly magnet
#

Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds

This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.

The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.

Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.

ruby condor
#

Why most op peaple use blood token set

exotic forge
#

That's just my two cents okayge

fickle forge
#

Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds

This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.

The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.

Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.

green wharf
#

i have an idea

#

change that mastery shit

#

and remove bleeds from arms

copper fox
#

Mastery: Deep Wounds is weird. The functionning of it is quite simple : Mortal Strike inflincts a DoT, and a debuff increasing the damage the target takes from you.
The application is a bit more uneven though.
First the ratio : 1 mastery = 0.243% extra damage dealt to targets affected by Deep Wounds

This is not a bad mastery baseline, the DoT is very decent (138.552% of attack power over 12 seconds, affected by haste and versa) although unnaffected by your mastery rating and the baseline debuff is a free 9% boost to your damage after your first MS.

The ratio however...
You barely get more damage than versatility grants you and you need to hit the mob with a Mortal Strike to get it and the bleed does not get stronger (technically it does since the debuff is bigger but it is not a direct buff nor i it any different than for other abilities.
In dungeons it is a decent mastery as bosses take longer to kill and it acts as kind of a buffer to your versatility but even there it's not worth stacking.
In open world though ? Horrendous is the term to use, a Mortal Strike followed by an auto-attack from most geared Warriors will deal with the average mob.
The mastery is useless for the majority of non-dungeon PvE content.

Look it's a cool mastery and I love it but it's bad.
Arms Warrior's plan is simple : stack enough Strenght to feel like Žydrūnas Savickas, go nuts with crit and versa for those fat Mortal Strike, charge to the nearest target, smash, zug-zug, you won. No need for mastery there.

stark agate
#

is DH a good comp with warrior

copper fox
#

No

exotic forge
#

Go with a ret

#

Or enh sham

chilly magnet
#

Ret is so strong

chilly magnet
#

Couldn't go wrong

chilly magnet
# green wharf

Idk just an article...crit haste seems good for col arms

exotic forge
#

Lol like when Arms used to sit at 35% haste in pvp constantly

green wharf
#

if i dont have haste as arms i feel miserable

urban skiff
#

Holy shit I just now realized

#

You know how some rogues absolutely flip their shit if you stun anything anytime?

#

That's the rogues running a burst macro with built in stuns

sharp meteor
#

It's really just more that Subtlety doesn't pressure if it isn't getting cc into bursts.

#

So your little 1 second storm bolt on the healer who is about to come off dr isn't appreciated

urban skiff
#

they do it to ferals who have big stuns as well

#

monks

#

It's not about length of stun, it's about them wanting control, and I suspect the people I play with at low ratings are the ones who struggle with improvising

valid kettle
#

Idk voice chat is an option and have them call for it, something simple like get next. They’re more likely tracking the stun DR than the war. But I’m no high rated player, seems logical to me for them to call it though. Then again I’m lazy and zug zug

exotic forge
#

Normally I'd wait for a rogue to go in and sap and do all the stunning on the kill target while I put some cc of my own on the other targets. Preferably fears because at least that won't get overlapped with stuns

#

in other words

urban skiff
#

Man I wish more guides would separate the stuff you can do into beginner and advanced stuff

#

I gave up a lot of classes after they added talent points and I feel like maybe I don't really need to worry about feint right now

fallen estuary
#

rip BFA deepwounds

#

ava;/ collo and just line them to death

tiny delta
#

finally a true representation of how it feels 😂

urban skiff
#

FUCK GUYS

#

new skillcapped "what is best"

#

#2 is hunter and #1 is rogue

fierce elm
#

no its ??? and ???

rapid shore
fierce elm
#

Also classes

#

Druid has one good spec

urban skiff
#

Yeah, they asked the qeustion "what class is going to be having the best time across all pvp content"

fierce elm
#

Is presvoker even good anymore

urban skiff
#

i have no clue

fierce elm
#

Warlock yeah

#

Paladin should 100% be there ngl

#

Hpala is still great, even amazing, ret is good in BGB and SS

#

Prot is prot

#

Dont get the deva tbh, presvoker has fallen so hard, devastation is like high mid tier

#

Druid has one really good spec, an awful healing spec and a mid-tier ranged spec

#

Warlock is warlock so absurd

urban skiff
#

I never really feel warlock is much trouble

#

again it sort of feels like enh turns every notion about op/not op on its head

#

enjoy dealing 30% less damage 100% of the time

fierce elm
#

Enhance is weird as fuck and nobody knows what they do lmao

urban skiff
#

true

#

I still don't quite get why we should ever have access to lava lash and ice strike at the same time. Imho they should be an very early choice node and change the entire right side of the tree to either lava or ice elements

#

And then we have sundering that triggers an aoe from a totem that just melts people

#

and there's meatballs but nobody in the history of ever has played with meatballs. It's spicy meatball or zero balls

fierce elm
#

Enhance lowkey looks fun

urban skiff
#

it's stupid amounts of fun

fierce elm
#

Played it s bit while leveling

urban skiff
#

even when I lose I'm having a good time

#

it's like being fury, but you also have caster levels of utility that allows for ridiculous skill expression

#

thunder storm healer behind a pillar and root them -> frost shock immediately after when they waste a global on dispel

#

put a stun totem on warlock gate and watch them port into a stun

#

trade off is that people don't take you seriously and you have to work harder for your big dam

fierce elm
#

It just has so much SHIT to keep track off

urban skiff
#

naaaaah

#

storm strike for days

fierce elm
#

Compared to the specs im used to

#

fucking like 9 different damage dealing buttons in PvE at least lmao

urban skiff
#

You know me, I'm bordering on brain dead and I don't think there's a lot to keep track of

fierce elm
#

Do feel like a fucking god when I get to Lighting bolt 8 targets though

urban skiff
#

I don't even play that build atm

fierce elm
#

Also Enhance sound design is on POINT

urban skiff
#

absolutely

fierce elm
#

Did while leveling, it feels amazing when it goes off

urban skiff
#

I just play storm x totem build

fierce elm
#

not 70 yet

#

it was like 50 or something

urban skiff
#

I'm currently levelling sub and survival

#

maybe I'm getting hooked on playing stupid bullshit. I still haven't even entered rated on my warrior yet because I keep hoarding conq and btokens

#

Super undecided on what I want to do with the war right now

fierce elm
#

lmao

#

I just need an alt for next season

#

along with hitting 1800 on warr every season for transmog

#

outside of that I just know I will play Ret so its pretty easy

#

Just that leveling+gearing makes me SAD

#

Just cba leveling 72-80, and 50-80 then knowing I have to gear

#

Maybe get another ret paladin thats purely for PvE

green wharf
#

its strong but not uber broken like before

chilly pivot
#

95% bm hunters in solo q

#

they need nerf it

ruby temple
#

Nah they're fine, hunters haven't been meta in 15 years. Let them have their time in the sun. - Probably every single hunter queueing right now.

chilly pivot
#

but they need to balance it bro

#

its to much

ruby temple
#

Just cc and kite their pets, and have a defensive up for black arrow everytime it's up, and don't queue, and they're fine

chilly pivot
#

im hardstuck 2300 rating becous of BMs feels like

ruby temple
#

There's a lot of shit that needs tuning. Sick of eles and afflocks too. You'll be fine and then all of a sudden an ele hits the lottery and kills you

#

I've been seeing more success just ignoring the hunter and killing their homies atm . throwing cc on them when I can. Most hunters seem to be decent at kiting for themselves but default to monkey brain dpsing if ignored.

#

Not like sitting on them stops their damage really. Even if you hit someone else you can still shockwave the pets during bestial wrath and fuck a good bit of their dmaage

hasty sky
#

Is there any site (not icy veins) that has talent builds for pvp fury warrior ?

fierce elm
#

all you need for gearing/talents

fierce elm
#

BM is busted, aint the reason someone is hardstuck though

chilly pivot
#

i want 2.5 bro

#

and bm is dog

fierce elm
#

You got like 2-3 months you will get it lmao

#

MMR inflation is so high in Solo Shuffle

hasty sky
lavish quest
fierce elm
#

Yeah but leveling

chilly pivot
#

when do they uncap conquest

lavish quest
#

After everyone quits anyways

fierce elm
#

Independent of crafting

rancid granite
#

end of the month is what I heard

fierce elm
#

At this point you have enough conquest

#

so makes sense

lavish quest
#

But when will they 5x gains?

fierce elm
#

NEVER

lavish quest
chilly pivot
#

Best way to buy gear on a fresh 80 char? Dont Wanna fuck up the buy order haha

rancid granite
#

murlok io and just kinda copy the popular items really

#

maybe use glad weapon since you get one free and save epic heraldries for something else

#

thats all

chilly pivot
rancid granite
lavish quest
#

Don't buy weapons with conquest

#

Earn 2500 and get with tokens

chilly pivot
lavish quest
#

People use the crafted weapon for the embelishment

#

Is it better? Probably.

#

But you can save a ton of conquest by just using the free weapons

#

And using the heraldries on rings and neck or something like that

chilly pivot
#

Yeah true

lavish quest
#

My main has crafted weap cause I've been gearing the whole season. Alts, I just will get the free weapons

rancid granite
#

99% who have crafted weapon just got it week 1 lol

#

before free conquest was out

#

i thought it was for the embel but it seems like every class has plenty of other pieces to use for it

lavish quest
#

The weapons have embelishments that can only be on the weapons tho. Some specs don't care for them

chilly pivot
#

This looks good for an alt who can buy in perfect way

fierce elm
#

had to buy weapon on paladin anyways

#

to swap embellishments lmao

#

feels like the embellish warrior was rocking just wasnt impactful enough compared to other specs

rancid granite
#

even still the opinion on those changed a bit

lavish quest
#

Idk, I still just rock it... cause I do idk

rancid granite
#

i swapped to lens on everyone cause of the simplicity lol

#

and it just seemed cooler

#

RP Still matters

lavish quest
#

Maybe I need to swap to lens. Seems that's what people are doing. But ewww, do I really want to have to use a bunch of different colored gems?

rancid granite
#

oh you dont need to

#

just need 1 normal gem for it to proc

#

the color is just for the RP

lavish quest
#

Doesn't do more with more different colors or something like that?

rancid granite
#

it just changes its element color

#

'magic school'

lavish quest
#

Seems I has research to do

rancid granite
#

i think the other embels need the different gems though

lavish quest
#

I haven't been sweating pvp much

rancid granite
#

but not lens =p

fierce elm
#

Lens is also wild damage wise

#

Literally just need a single gem

rancid granite
#

single non-meta gem

lavish quest
#

I just queue once every in a whole. I run in, bust on kids, and move on

fierce elm
#

Have had it do everything from 1% of my total damage to 5%

#

its pretty wild

lavish quest
#

I have 5 non meta gems

#

All blue

balmy goblet
#

Do ppl go haste now? Comin back a bit on my warrior and a few weeks ago ppl seemed to stack mastery?

lavish quest
#

Fury mastery, arms haste. As far as I know

wheat jay
#

ahhh

#

i love pvp inflation

#

i was 1950

#

at 1950mmr

#

before the mmr boost

#

i log in

#

do shuffle

#

2133 mmr

#

three lobbies in a row keks

#

deserved?

sharp meteor
#

Number go up.

wheat jay
#

got my 2100

#

from 1970 or sth

sharp meteor
#

Oh, I gotta get reflex again. Mine was causing like a million errors at one point after a patch.

wheat jay
#

in 3 lobbies that should be negative hahahhahahaha

#

AAHHAHAHAHA

#

I HAD THAT LAST LOBBY

#

WITH PET ON FUCKING PASSIVE!?

#

nah bro

#

xD

#

my ui bugged or sth i dont klnow hhahahaha

fierce elm
#

trash

wheat jay
#

get rekt noob

#

game loves me

fierce elm
#

I mean yeah

#

2100 is piss free if you win a few rounds lmao

wheat jay
#

i mean

#

triple gain

#

from going very negative

#

EZ

fierce elm
#

Yeah

#

thats what everyone got

#

I played one game at 1800mmr, where it started me

#

boosted me to like 2k

#

lmao

wheat jay
#

ye i was way past placements tho xD

fierce elm
#

So its pretty wild

#

1970-2.1k = 230mmr

#

seems about right

#

1600 starting mmr, started at somewhere around 1800+

wheat jay
#

fun stuff

lavish quest
#

Artji can play like a 1200 player and fly up the ratings. It's all so free these days

wheat jay
#

i mean

fierce elm
#

lmao

wheat jay
#

i style on people

#

that's the thing xD

fierce elm
#

you sure did style in that 1-5 lobby

lavish quest
#

With the passive pet ye

wheat jay
#

first shuffle in a month or so

#

xD

lavish quest
#

My first shuffle in a month was a 6-0

#

Nerd

#

This week*

wheat jay
#

also my gear keks

wheat jay
#

get rekt noob

rancid granite
#

nice mog

wheat jay
#

❤️ thanks

lavish quest
#

I go 6-0, I suck. You go 1-5, you're a God. Makes sense

wheat jay
#

its not me who makes the rules

wheat jay
#

okay dude placement games?

lavish quest
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Maybe

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I did like... 4 or 5 lobbies a month prior, and that was it

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I don't no life like you Artji

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I have a job

wheat jay
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bruh

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i barely even play this game anymore

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xD

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i mostly pve too

lavish quest
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So were yours placements?

wheat jay
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i played quite a bit first week xd

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got 1950

lavish quest
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No life. Got it

wheat jay
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yep

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not beating the allegations i guess keks

lavish quest
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@fierce elm How have you not helped this man get out and get bitches yet?

wheat jay
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afro was busy asking me to tank his keys

lavish quest
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You play arms... so tank as in deplete? He knows there's a panda that can drop the key for him right?

wheat jay
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i tank keys too

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hard to find anything easeir

lavish quest
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Smart man. Wait all day as a DPS

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Only wait half the day as tank

wheat jay
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biggest brain 👍

boreal veldt
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tanking is actually fun in pve

lavish quest
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What I do. I can't trust others to do it anyways

wheat jay
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actually true

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i had a tank die on 1st pull in necrotic

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insta leaves

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lmao

lavish quest
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That was me

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😈

wheat jay
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Biatch

lavish quest
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My key is a 12 something

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Can't remember

wheat jay
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ye but youre worse region

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werent you?

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but hey at least youre going to be great again soon

lavish quest
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If we're the worse region, why we got the new bike huh?

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And yeah, I'm guessing big changes coming. Red sweep

wheat jay
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you couldn't even keep it in NA

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NICE BORDER CONTROL LIL FELLA

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if trump was a president the day it was releeased it'd probably stay in NA only

lavish quest
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You can get it, from us

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A gift sir

wheat jay
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give me one then ❤️

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as gift

full bison
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does anyone have bis list for pvp fury

lavish quest
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I don't even have it

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Haven't bought Mtn dew or doritos

wheat jay
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smh man

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slacker

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how are you going to get me my mount if youre not even on the gamer juice?

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hello?

urban skiff
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looks like next patch content gives us plate gear with body tattoos

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and mail too

fierce elm
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we already have that

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both of those

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just different colors

urban skiff
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I recognize the mail set but not the plate

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where is it from?

fierce elm
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Expeditions

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Its called blood something iirc

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I have the full set but cba logging in lmao

lavish quest
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Ye, I have the plate one

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Think it's like bloodwake or something like that

fierce elm
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Bloodwake yeah

cosmic narwhal
fierce elm
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yes

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the red ones

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can also be bought on AH for a cheap penny

cinder thorn
urban skiff
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@fierce elm I did it

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bought the set

fierce elm
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yooo

cinder thorn
urban skiff
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outside a couple of oneshots it's been years since I last played

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used to be in 3rd edition

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but i love D&D

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obviously barbarian 4 lyfe

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or in 5e moon druid is nice as well

fallen solar
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Y’all know what addon this is for the numbers to look like that?

urban skiff
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probably scrolling combat text

fallen solar
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Cool

wheat jay
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nameplateSCT

urban skiff
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I hate combat text addons, because they all put numbers on a fixed place on the screen instead of anchor them to the targets

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I want to watch where someone goes after nameplates fade by looking at dot ticks

elfin surge
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bm hunter is pretty cool

urban skiff
fallen solar
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If I download it

wheat jay
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Should be

fallen solar
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Okay cool.