pvp

[rancid granite]

you don't wanna try double dps?

[urban skiff]

Can't double dps in blitz

Or I would just go enh + rogue

[lavish quest]

Idk, maybe MW

[urban skiff]

seems like it's fun

[lavish quest]

For flag carries

[rancid granite]

oh sorry you said blitz

[urban skiff]

so hpal or mw?

[sharp meteor]

pres if you're good disc if you're not

[urban skiff]

I mean I'd love it if fistweaving became a thing again. Seems the right amount of stupid shit that will trigger people to be just my type of playstyle

[sharp meteor]

bad in 2s can't in blitz

[rancid granite]

depends on rating you wanna get

[urban skiff]

i think rogue + enh might be the exception in 2s for double dps

[rancid granite]

saw this rogue guy hit 2k double dps in 2's np lol

[urban skiff]

1800 - 1950 is probably a good goal. We got to 1750 in MoP as rogue+warlock all seasons

idk what her skill level is these days

since we don't pvp together

[rancid granite]

bet you could do that double dps if you want

can't hurt to try out diff chars in it

[urban skiff]

bet it'd be fun too. ran into a rogue in skirmish and he did like 2m damage every skirmish but just enabled the shit out of me

[hot solstice]

lost 200 points from 2280 on arms cause second day streak lobbies like this...I forgot the last time I saw dk ww or dh

[urban skiff]

when you play matters

figure out the optimal hours to farm the tired dads returning from work and don't queue outside those hours

too sweaty

[hot solstice]

u mean casters have no job?

makes sense

[urban skiff]

casters are more likely to be management so yeah, they don't work

So my options for healer, prioritized are: Disc, hpal(?), mw, pres(?),lolrest?

[hot solstice]

like its crazy...they updated gladiatorlossa so now it yells every time deva disintigrates...its crazy how much they spam it

[urban skiff]

we care about disintegrates?

shaman life

[boreal veldt]

ran against a devoker/aff yesterday, what do we think has more reflect value

eternity surge or haunt

[urban skiff]

surge

[boreal veldt]

thought so too

[urban skiff]

based entirely on how i feel about having surge spell reflected when I played on my evoker

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/zyzz-miring-fuark-gif-18026420

[urban skiff]

bro looking huge

I miss him

[hasty pulsar]

would you guys ever play spear in solo shuffle against evokers/frost mages/hunters

[boreal veldt]

im on my colossus spear arc so ama

[hasty pulsar]

yes i also have been playing colossus

do you generally just run spear all the time as colossus

[rancid granite]

colossus just seems to sync so easily with roar/bleeds; every time i try spear i am so underwhelmed 😭

[boreal veldt]

i do now ye, it works quite well into frost mage and voker actually

[hasty pulsar]

yeah i generally just run roar

but i was thinking for annoying specs that run a lot perhaps i run spear

[boreal veldt]

spear has always been a rough go cause it's 1.5min on a skillshot lmao

but to be clear i usually run a /cast [@player] macro with it

bad mages,vokers,locks will all waste mobility in a spear too

blinks, surges, ports, gates

[rancid granite]

do you save it for the kill-windows

or just send on cooldown

[boreal veldt]

i try and get a few stacks of might rolling before i toss it but i do use it for early pressure in the 1st minute or so

so by its next cd i can setup for a possible kill

it's also a really good tool if the target has LoS'd their healer

i recommend running Warbringer pvp talent w/ it

saves stun dr/fear cd

[hasty pulsar]

oh interesting

never considered that synergy with rooting them into the spear

[urban skiff]

rip

[fierce elm]

rip

sadge

[pure hornet]

The king

[brisk meadow]

what the hell is up with mistweaver

after the new buffs they don't need to cast heals at all to heal people

[plush cairn]

lost 200 blitz pts

cuz indie company servers

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

what tipped them over to that?

[brisk meadow]

the rework to crackling lightnign

hitting 2-3 targets full heals in shuffle

[urban skiff]

that alone can't be it

[brisk meadow]

this guy did NOT stand in melee a single time

the first actua lcasted heal is 5th

[granite epoch]

resto sham is like the only healer that hard casts at all, not sure why ppl are upset about MW rn

[hot solstice]

Wdym rsham hardcasting? Most of the time dude just spams riptide and stream totem+ns surge…and yaps something about taking too much damage

[boreal veldt]

Yapping helps rsham's HPS

[hot solstice]

Like idk, so many healers in n shuffle simply don’t deserve rating they got…u can recognize good healer simply by what he is dispelling

Nothing depresses me more than 2100 dude with 2k rounds

[rancid granite]

have a little empathy for they have to babysit TWO players every game

chain cc'd as healer while they press no defensives and run behind a pillar then yell " ????????????? " when they die

healing is super chill and those moments make me laugh

[stark agate]

I got a 639 wings of shattered sorrow. Useable in pvp?

[kind sentinel]

It is, but the avoidance you get is pretty nerfed

• the healing taken is also pretty reduced

[stark agate]

oh it increases healing taken by 1%

hahah

[kind sentinel]

ya

most pve things like that have a giga 80-90% reduction them

like the ring and the necklace too

[rancid granite]

i found out something i hate more than every monk: the healing ability that pulls you to them

idk the name of it

whatever priest spell

[cinder thorn]

This

I played healer for a few minutes and saw the nightmares they have to put up with

I was cced for days and kicked and stunned and feared until I had enough

So when your team mate noob runs behind pillar and dies it's just icing on the cake

You start seeing everyone's faults as a healer it's actually eye opening

I suggest you all try it

Just to feel their pain

[rancid granite]

yeah lol

definitely helps you be a better dps/teammate

[cinder thorn]

Yes I only stopped zug zugging people properly behind pillars after I played healers

[orchid badge]

why do i keep getting 5 rating for winning blitz and losing 15
previously i won 20 and lost 0
is it random?

[gilded scaffold]

whats the current consensus on fury x arms

which is better rn?

[boreal veldt]

both good, pick your favorite child

[gilded scaffold]

is one more or less ginger than the other?>

[stark agate]

Every game I get is 6-0 healer and 3-3 everyone else

one healer is always just better than the other

[stone garnet]

I found fury to be less ginger than arms, but went all in swapping to arms so I'm keeping my redheaded step child for a bit.

[cinder thorn]

can I wear more than 1 different algari diamonds if they are not on the same gear piece?

so can I have like one algari diamond on one ring and a different one on another? or it wont let u wear it

[hasty pulsar]

wont let you wear it

[cinder thorn]

thx

[boreal veldt]

[boreal veldt]

see picture above

[green wharf]

BM survived the reset without any nerfs....

this week is going to e full of surprises

[chilly pivot]

are they nerfing any classes this week that is good for us? 😄

[fierce elm]

there are no changes this week

[chilly pivot]

alright 🙂

[green wharf]

they either are saving the change for after the AWC

or are doing tomorow or the day after

doubt they would do friday

[jovial torrent]

i just want them to stop trying to fix racials and delete them or make them pickable for pvp, i just wana have some meme chars like kultiran or zandalari troll

[green wharf]

nothing is stopping you though

[rancid granite]

do you guys know if, you're tank/healer, and you queue as dps

it just goes to last used spec?

[fierce elm]

Gotta optimize my RACIALS dood

[green wharf]

kultiran punch is pretty busted in blitz

[rancid granite]

i guess it shows the icon in the corner anyway

[lavish quest]

Racials dumb

[fickle forge]

You dumb

[lavish quest]

No

Me smart

[rancid granite]

just leave one gem socket open

so if you lose you can blame the gem

instead of team/racial/balance

ez

[fickle forge]

I have sold all my bloodstones so far

[jovial torrent]

ive been buying bloodstones to craft jewelery on alts, send gold pliz

[fickle forge]

Start boosting

Never run dry

[jovial torrent]

itll turn around soon, healing q is like 30 seconds get like 20k honor a afternoon ez

[copper fox]

1600 boosts are the move

[fickle forge]

Even 200k honor doesn't amount to 1 boost

[little lava]

how the fuck am i supposed to gain mmr in blitz

ppl are so fucking dogshit

cant win 1v19

on flag maps

[onyx marlin]

git gud

[fierce elm]

by winning

[onyx marlin]

[wheat jay]

No way around it

Carry or get carried

[little lava]

tf

[wheat jay]

Ye

That's blitz

[boreal veldt]

That's blitz

[wheat jay]

You think 8 people picked at random will cooperate?

Play properly for objectives

[fierce elm]

just play solo shuffle and get free rating tbh

[wheat jay]

And make collectively sound decisions to win every game?

[boreal veldt]

You should hop in the in-game voice, it's sometimes hilarious

I've noticed it more in 2400+

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[boreal veldt]

Like og Halo 3 lobbies

[fickle forge]

Hop in the VC and start an argument with the russian guy

Or play Under the Sea through a soundboard

[boreal veldt]

10/10 entertainment

almost makes WoW feel like a social game

just wait till we get proximity voice

[fierce elm]

WoW battleroyale

NOT plunderstorm

[fickle forge]

Everyone is a sub rogue

[fierce elm]

no specs are daily locked

[fickle forge]

Am I cooked for doing gym at 11PM on a weekday?

[fierce elm]

so each day its a new spec

yes

you are

coulda been doing 3s smh

[fickle forge]

Or

We could not

[fierce elm]

"PVP SUCKS"

smh

[fickle forge]

Fucking hell you lil' loser

[boreal veldt]

nah, get your pump on

[fierce elm]

im out here popping off

[fickle forge]

Wanna do P V P tomorrow?

[fierce elm]

Maybe

depends on GF mood

[fickle forge]

Before I dip to Berlin

[fierce elm]

I got staff meeting at 17-21 either way

[fickle forge]

Cast aside your girl

Join the homies

[fierce elm]

hell no

Not angry over pixels, don't live in WoW

I am a gigachad

[fickle forge]

These fucking simp ret mains man

[fierce elm]

lmao

eat me

[fickle forge]

I'll eat you both

[fierce elm]

ayo

[boreal veldt]

ayo

[fickle forge]

I'm the king of the hill in your relationship now

[fierce elm]

RELAX

[boreal veldt]

this a dif kind of pvp

[fickle forge]

Go answer my question in Highmaul soyboy

[fierce elm]

Its a hip thrust bench

[fickle forge]

What

[fierce elm]

Its a hip thrust station

big man

[fickle forge]

There's one next to it with elevated sidebars

[fierce elm]

That is a hip thrust station

what do you want me to say lmao

[fickle forge]

Looking like a real hip thrust station

[fierce elm]

I mean that is literally what it is

[fickle forge]

What the FUCK

[fierce elm]

like hello

[fickle forge]

It looks so converse

[fierce elm]

Its real simple

Put your feet on the small 'mat' thing, put back on the seat part, can attach bands to the side things

[fickle forge]

God I hate it

[fierce elm]

there you go

made a visual example for you

this is someone with a long ass torso

[rancid granite]

super thin

stick man

[wheat jay]

Damn kargish got a long ass torso

[fierce elm]

he is bulking

[green wharf]

is one of your legs that short

or is your pp

[fierce elm]

Thats kargish

not me

he has short legs

[slate plover]

Heyy guys, anyone here on a Eu server wanting to do pvp? Tryna get my warrior some conquest gear....having trouble finding a partner

[lavish quest]

And you ask in warrior discord because...? Double war comp seem thicc?

Even tho a lot of not warriors here

Afro, this man needs a holy pally. Go

[slate plover]

Thats exaclty why i asked haha, maybe some hoping to gear an alt or such

[fickle forge]

Why this girl got 10% legs and 80% upper body

[fierce elm]

thats you

Why is every feral in SS so bad

[green wharf]

fotm people

[fierce elm]

God Solo shuffle is different

[lavish quest]

First 2k

[fierce elm]

yoo first 2k wtf

hit 2.3k mmr at least

[rancid granite]

is that on your new warr

[fierce elm]

naa

started playing SS on paladin

[rancid granite]

i went from 2k back down to 1800 today on warr i just feel so useless on it 😭

[fierce elm]

just wanted to hit 2.1 for elite weapons

but how easy this is

[rancid granite]

paladin ret and holy have been a lot of fun in ss though

[fierce elm]

ret feels great bh

[rancid granite]

the recent update was huge in making paladin

feel more paladin lol

nevermind better or worse it just made it more paladin-y

[granite epoch]

8 warriors

in this blitz lol

[hasty pulsar]

gross tbh

[granite epoch]

it was terrible

[hasty pulsar]

ngl saw a dragon warrior just now and looked badass

[green wharf]

a giraffe war you mean?

[hasty pulsar]

XD

[green wharf]

too skinny and thin to be badass

[hasty pulsar]

they did a good job with their animations though

[rancid granite]

in actual dragon form? lol

[tacit swallow]

What are the big abilities to intervene? I'm realizing if I wanna get above 1800 I really need to help my healers more.

[fierce elm]

there are a ton of big abilities

not many are telegraphed however

[tacit swallow]

Short of hunter trap nothing seems telegraphed enough to work on

[wheat jay]

Going for elite weapons?

[tacit swallow]

Like I throw the random "I got a feeling" intervene out on the odd KS but otherwise it seems like a guess. I'm assuming there is some classes with fixed attack sequences that might be easier to notice.

[fierce elm]

there really aren't

honestly

But you can see big goes

Generally if a stun gets thrown out and they have no defensive rolling you can intervene them

[tacit swallow]

Ahh so you use it more for the damage mitigation then cc chains.

That's great to know. Ty.

[fierce elm]

yes

Even if you dont get a big hit you still cancel out a ton of big hits

[tacit swallow]

Perfect. Thanks. Anyone know of a list of interveneable spells? I suspect things have changed since playing warrior in wotlk.

[fierce elm]

Everything that is melee

or rather, counts as a melee hit

[wheat jay]

Jesus you're a tryhard

[fierce elm]

wtf DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

took like what, 3? hours to hit 2k

in total

[wheat jay]

Tryhard

[fierce elm]

its like these dudes have never seen a ret paladin

or know how to avoid stuff

[rancid granite]

avoid the big hammer from the sky and avoid big glowy shields

[fierce elm]

Also having way too much fun hitting 2.5 million hammers

on people, its hilarious

[rancid granite]

yeah its bs

no channeling

[fierce elm]

its fantastic

That with BoP, Lay, Bubble not being blocked by forb

its great

[green wharf]

yes, i play paladin, wanna any tips?

[fierce elm]

hammer goes vroom

[rancid granite]

rofl

[fierce elm]

just bonk

The best part is when it lines up

so I get one Hammer, then another hammer 3 seconds later

with fully stacked crusade

[rancid granite]

the hammer of wrath spam after hits hard too

[spice hornet]

which slot do i craft for unity? plz n ty

[fierce elm]

the blue one

[deep epoch]

20% I’ll intervene

[jovial torrent]

kidney and hoj are probs the easiest, hunters can throw a stun trap from further range than your intervene

but theres way more important things than intervene, that isnt holding u below 1800 thats just a small little bonus

[fierce elm]

there we go

[fierce elm]

If you sucessfully Intervene a HoJ or a kidney then they are ASS

[deep epoch]

If your healer is dying, zug harder. They should be under too much pressure to kill your healer.

This is the way.

[chilly magnet]

has anyone tried going mastery with arms gear?

[spice hornet]

u cant intervene hoj lol

[fierce elm]

Technically

with rebound

[keen canyon]

what is the best pvp build arms or fury?

[spice hornet]

didnt they get rid of this

for like the 2nd time

[fierce elm]

Oh wait maybe they did

[boreal veldt]

the top colossus arms guy in blitz i think is full mastery

[green wharf]

[chilly magnet]

i was curious i chose to go crit but had a wonder about mastery

[rancid granite]

the no haste slam builds

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1303522786316128287/image.png?ex=672c0fb2&is=672abe32&hm=f9179b188af1b850240f0ed302a42349c8c414475c3489ea7ff50cfa6bd39b5f&

You love to see it

[green wharf]

an actual execute

[boreal veldt]

quit manifesting this, it's becoming a thing

cursed

[green wharf]

its a build that go against itself

cause no haste means no rage

so no slams

[rancid granite]

it'll go well with the +rage talent, charge up 200 rage over like 3mins, then bam ms demolish slam slam slam

[boreal veldt]

delete this

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-and-slam-and-welcome-to-the-jam-rafer-geometry-dash-gif-5987203343747158084

[fierce elm]

You can even get so much rage that you reroll

[rancid granite]

that's what happened to me it feels like

rogue feels like warrior but with hella extra cc and defensives

and a better charge

[fierce elm]

and more damage

lmao

[rancid granite]

you just miss out on tank spec for pve I guess

[hasty pulsar]

Isn’t rogue a lot more difficult to play

[kind sentinel]

That's an ancient lie spun by big rmp

[hasty pulsar]

Oh it’s fake news

Interesting

[jovial torrent]

it was hard a looooooong time ago when u had to spin ur bleed and stuff for energy

its not been that way for like 4 expansions

[hasty pulsar]

Is there an easy way to gear alts for PvP these days I haven’t made an alt in a long time

[jovial torrent]

play a healer and play solo shuffle, u get a warbound conquest token for 50 conquest even on loss with 0 queue, honor it might be faster for certain shuffle or epic bg

[green wharf]

can also farm the chest drops in wpvp on the map

60 each i think

[hasty pulsar]

Ok thanks for info

Can I use honor to buy alt gear

[green wharf]

i got like 300+ just grabbing ores

[hasty pulsar]

Honor on my main I mean

[green wharf]

yeah

[hasty pulsar]

How I do that

Is there like a box at the vendor

And then send the box to alt

[green wharf]

you go there, click on the honor and transfer

[hasty pulsar]

Oh dang right I forgot honor is warband now

That’s awesome actually

[green wharf]

but it only work as bringing honor from other characters to the one you are logged

[hasty pulsar]

Ok right

That’s sweet

[green wharf]

so have to be on the alt

[jovial torrent]

you lose 20% of the honor u convert

so 10k turns into 8k honor transfer

[hasty pulsar]

Oh damn they put a tax on transferring honor? Thats wild

Fair enough I guess though

[jovial torrent]

yeh its kind of lame but it is nice to be able to fully gear out a char the second they hit 80, dont buy rings or neck cus u win like 1 bg and get the free 9 tokens that u can use to make epic ones

[verbal tangle]

it's always been a thing since the transferable honor items

[hasty pulsar]

fair enough haven’t made an alt in a long time. I’m usually a main character only type of player

[hasty pulsar]

Thx for advice

[jovial torrent]

also ur guna craft 2 accesories so 1x ring 1xneck or 2x ring with elemental focus, the special gem like precog doesnt proc them it has to be a stat one, dont waste ur first 5k honor putting in a gem that wont activate it, also buy vicious bloodstones on ah so u can make ur rings/neck fast and add 1 gem slot to your gear

@hasty pulsar

[hasty pulsar]

Noted I will use all this advice thanks again for being so helpful

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ninnincry-gif-21155751

[wheat jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1042139795595468810/20221115_135144.gif

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-nooo-pleasegodno-the-office-angry-gif-12174751

[fierce elm]

smh stop SHITPOSTING

[rancid granite]

is the song stuck in your head yet

[wet pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fetch-regina-george-mean-girls-santa-hat-mean-gif-5497996

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985520109487538247/1303539262804852887/image.png?ex=672c1f0a&is=672acd8a&hm=fda8e59467685bb2edf74ec9d7820b70faa9844c48583690cbaee65a3b3d1398&

[wheat jay]

M
meow

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[lavish quest]

Hey, I just tried to do a key on my ret last night. This is what happened. Don't shoot the messenger

I was the only one the healer did it to too

[rancid granite]

shoulda lead with it being a healer

am i the only one who hates monks more than any other class?

how do you guys handle them

[hot solstice]

ww these days press karma as soon as u bladestorm...even if they r not ur target

and die after in a swap

[wet pollen]

Why is there such a split on the 4th tier piece for set bonus? Seems like half going shoulders and other half chest

[fierce elm]

Some people want more crit/mastery heavily leaning mastery, some want crit/haste leaning heavily crit

it probably isn't deeper than that

[green wharf]

well, rets are well know for being furry, so he tought you might be one

[fierce elm]

lmao

He saw you as a girl and wanted to see if he could get close

[lavish quest]

My ret is a big man Tauren tho

[green wharf]

projecting

[fierce elm]

furry vibes

[lavish quest]

What's your ret huh?

[fierce elm]

Human lmao

[lavish quest]

Weak

I'm big hairy man irl, gotta follow suit in game

[fierce elm]

want to be kul tiran

[lavish quest]

You want to be?

[fierce elm]

yes

[willow plover]

That is just messed up

[fierce elm]

Didn't you quit yesterday or something

Not that I am judging

[lavish quest]

Afro wants to a little chonky

[last hatch]

for pvp whats better to put on ring hate/versa or mastery/versa ?

[lavish quest]

They were resto

:p

[cinder thorn]

Which stat doesn't matter a big deal, they're just flavours

People do well with all sort of stat combinations if u want to know more look at murlok.io

[hasty pulsar]

do you demolish players use demolish right away as fast as possible to get it on cd or do you build up the might stacks first

[rancid granite]

don't forget it gives you nice buffs too

so hanging on to max stacks isn't always bad

[hasty pulsar]

yeah hmm

is it worth it to just use it asap in a fight though just to do some damage

while i build might stacks for the next demolish

probably right?

or am I just overthinking it all

[chilly magnet]

In arenas survival is higher so I don't mind using it to build pressure. So you can use it right away with a few stacks.

If they have a healer

When it's all dps zug hard and try to build stacks with ss/bladestorm

Nothing better than a 10 stack demolish with radiant power up and ur trinket I'm a smash on em

[hasty pulsar]

wait do unhinged mortal strikes hit a 2nd target when using ss

i swear I thought they took that away

[chilly magnet]

Not sure about that I just ss for ms and then bs

[hasty pulsar]

ss ms's during bs definitely give more colossus might stacks thats for sure, just tested it

[chilly magnet]

ZUGZUG

[pure hornet]

And are you frenzied? Or powerfull

[distant dagger]

Yes

[tawny elm]

can i catalyst the bloody token gear?

[rancid granite]

no reason to

its a waste

[tawny elm]

how so?

the missing ilvl compared to conq gear?

[rancid granite]

well why waste it on gear that'll be replaced easily

that too

i have like one bloody token piece left i'll get next week, woulda had it if i didnt waste on weapon

[pure hornet]

Why not make alt

Having 2 warriors makes it easy
And alt takes 8-10 hours or 60 bucs

[plush cairn]

anyways fury > arms

full ST banging

[lavish quest]

Ragnaros cleave

[pure hornet]

A ret…,??? Betrayel to the true warry comunity…

[rancid granite]

ret is just a warrior who goes to church

[plush cairn]

fury warrior is real warrior

[pure hornet]

Warry is the chad.. pally is cuc..

[plush cairn]

arms warrior is just to scratch enemies

so they bleed a lil bit

[pure hornet]

Nah
Arms is better in high end play. Better close game setup

Just atm a bit undertuned still

But, i reffering mostly to 3’s and 2’s

Blitz and shuffle jokes are just pve

[copper fox]

What

What comp is arms better in 3s

[wheat jay]

Design wise it is better, just undertuned compared to fury

Any comp when arms and fury are equal is better with arms

[pure hornet]

Any
Fury just has a bit of edge cuz arms was the ‘pvp spec since moses parted the red sea

[wheat jay]

Fury at the moment does more damage, thats all

[pure hornet]

Ye but i feel in dampening arms ignore pain is better

[copper fox]

There’s no comp in 3s rn where arms is preferred. I know the differences. Right now, fury is better than arms in 3s though in this state

So saying any is dodging

[pure hornet]

Well you play you
I might be biased

[wheat jay]

We did agree that its better now, because arms is undertuned

[copper fox]

Agreed

[wheat jay]

But in a situation where they are equal in terms of dmg, arms is better designed for high end arena

[copper fox]

Got it yea that’s agreeable

[wheat jay]

Banner, duel, sharpen blade, etc

Some are better some are worse

But at some duel was #1 pick in arena, being the best talent for arena

Banner is HUGE whenever setup comps are good

Spear used to be main play for some time too

Now troar just does more dmg

[copper fox]

I played sp fury to 2.1 the other day it actually felt so good

[wheat jay]

If demolish wasnt a stationary channel spear and demolish would be a broken combo

That alone would carry arms

[pure hornet]

Fury punishes bad people better

[copper fox]

Was playing kfc before that and hpal meta was killing us

[wheat jay]

Another kfc enjoyer

Nice

[copper fox]

Ofc

[wheat jay]

I was playing it to glad with kargish

[copper fox]

I got glad with kfc s3 DF

[wheat jay]

And aftwr that we were reaching glad mmr but never botheted to grind it to finish xD

[copper fox]

lol rip

[wheat jay]

We wanted to play hard in s4 df

We were reaching 2300 mmr at the early stages of the season

But once meta became assa affli, ret dh, and assa sp it became hopeless xD

[copper fox]

That’s how I feel about it rn

So I had to play with a sp lol

[wheat jay]

Ye, kfc is just bad

I guess fury bm would work

But id sooner off myself than play bm seriously

[boreal veldt]

depends on your setup but i wouldn't use it with less than 6-7 stacks

[wheat jay]

Both are fine

I'd say few stacks usually helps

And you dont rly pop burst first global in arena

[hasty pulsar]

yep true

and I cannot deny demo with no stacks just feels awful to press

[boreal veldt]

colossus gets tons of value out of MS crits, thats where most of my pressure comes from

that being said i do want to get demo out within the 1st minute of a game

[hasty pulsar]

yes

i know this is a weird question sorta, but do you think there is any value in the 'surprise' aspect of demo

like, sometimes they dont realize you are colossus

and then BAM HUGE DEMO HITS

[boreal veldt]

the endorphin value is pretty high

[hasty pulsar]

yes lol

I am quickly learning that

[urban skiff]

feral is mastery > haste? Or is it a haste to taste spec?

[boreal veldt]

if i may touch on this, i wouldn't recommend using ss with bs just for stacks

cause while it does give double stack, ms only goes off once on your prio target

so you're getting better value and dps by just using ms outside of bs

[hasty pulsar]

right I noticed that the MS itself does not hit 2 targets with unhinged

Ok thank you for this advice

I acknowledge the stacks of might do increase though from unhinged ms's

[boreal veldt]

it's a weird interaction, we're not sure if it's a bug

[hasty pulsar]

yah I figured they left it in to give us more value

but yeah

[urban skiff]

They disabled SS spreading MS effects

from bladestorm

[chilly magnet]

Setting up burst is very important with colossus. If you can you want to MS /roar or spear/ stun/ sharpen / demolish / MS

[urban skiff]

they also did it for fury proccing extra bloodthirsts during bladestorm with meatgrinder

meatcleaver?

meatword

[boreal veldt]

arbys

we have the meats

[chilly magnet]

Demolish needs good setup which why slayer is preferred

For most

[hasty pulsar]

me no setupo me dam demo big

much dam

[boreal veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1042069193392136223/20221115_132954.gif

i hit a 1.2mil slam yesterday and i hate it here

not even the highest ive hit either

[fierce elm]

SLAM GAMING

[boreal veldt]

C'MON AN SLAM

searching through my spellbook for it like a musty tome

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-jordan-gif-15522813

[rancid granite]

amazing gif lmao

[modern nacelle]

Anyone have or know where to find a list of priority interrupt /reflect.

[urban skiff]

at least you don't have to dig out moonfire

[echo bone]

priority reflect

isnt that super situational

[modern nacelle]

I wont be reflecting wrath for example but maybe a cyclone

[echo bone]

healer cyclone is huge reflect

but spellreflect also reduces magicdamage incoming

keep that in mind

[modern nacelle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FX6T6SRc134
Something like this but for this exp

[echo bone]

ahhhh

yeah for warlock its a specific spell, affliction

i forgot the name 😄

[boreal veldt]

haunt reflect is the dream

[urban skiff]

I love their guides. It's a direct link to what behavior people are going to swap to

[modern nacelle]

Here's a summary of key spells to interrupt by spec based on the thread:

Discipline Priest:

Ultimate Penitence

Penance

Flash Heal

Mind Control

Affliction Warlock:

Fear

Haunt

Malefic Rupture

Destruction Warlock:

Fear

Chaos Bolt

Soul Fire

Mage:

Polymorph

Damage spells (varies by spec)

Frost: Frostbolt, Ice Lance

Fire: Fireball, Pyroblast

Arcane: Arcane Blast, Arcane Missiles

Shadow Priest:

Halo (if they’re Archons)

Mind Flay: Insanity

Void Torrent

Avoid off-school interrupts like Flash Heal

Elemental Shaman:

Hex

Lightning Lasso

Lava Burst

Restoration Shaman:

Hex

Lightning Lasso

Hard-cast heals

Balance Druid:

Cyclone

Starfire

Restoration Druid:

Cyclone

Devastation Evoker:

Disintegrate

Augmentation Evoker:

Eruption

Sleep Walk

Holy Paladin:

Searing Glare

Tyr’s Deliverance

Any Holy school spells

Preservation Evoker:

Sleep Walk

Dream Breath

Spirit Bloom

Living Flame / Chrono Flame

General Tips:

Avoid kicking off-school spells (e.g., Flash Heal on Shadow Priest, Fire spells on Destro Lock).

Avoid giving casters Precognition by kicking obvious baits.

This list focuses on high-impact spells you should prioritize interrupting to disrupt healing, crowd control, and heavy damage abilities during PvP.

Agree or not?

[dense herald]

tf

what are these queue times man

[deep epoch]

Just wait a min it’ll go down. Mine did that the other day too haha.

[dense herald]

nah man

[elfin surge]

Sup Skyhold PvP

[dense herald]

these are real queue times

[dense herald]

mud i am playing orc and i trolling or just a chad

[elfin surge]

you are a gigachad

[acoustic acorn]

Whats a decent 3s partner dps for arms this season?

[dense herald]

zug zug

[limber wagon]

can someone explain why ignore pain says 2.2 mil on the tooltip but the actual absorb is 400k something without damp lmao

[chilly pivot]

what is best

[crystal merlin]

Any changes i've missed on fury warrs this reset? Feels like I do legit 0 dmg

[urban skiff]

what does tooltip say when you're in pvp situation?

[fierce elm]

all of them

40% aura nerf

[green wharf]

left thane, right slayer

[sharp meteor]

easiest best racial just macro bloodfury into burst buttons

it's like if you're worried baout using escape artist on the wrong root just play orc

[boreal veldt]

ip is nerfed to oblivion in pvp but it's still better than parry heal

[urban skiff]

almost as big as shaman nerf

[hasty pulsar]

has anyone ever used parry heal? lol

could it actually be good in certain situations

[boreal veldt]

you should run it in skirms

[hasty pulsar]

yeah dang

actually good idea

[boreal veldt]

where it's just 2v2 clusterfuckery

[hasty pulsar]

never considered it

could it be good in all melee lobby

in ss

or just bad idea

[boreal veldt]

bad, you got a healer

[hasty pulsar]

ah right

is it good in world pvp you think

I often do a lot of world pvp solo

prob not as much value in world pvp..

[boreal veldt]

yeah nah, just go ip in pretty much every other situation lol

[hasty pulsar]

ok understood

[runic crypt]

are my stats cooked?

or are these fine

[green wharf]

need more mastery

[runic crypt]

i should prolly craft the rings with mastery then

i wasted conq on the rings

[green wharf]

its good tats for arms i think

[runic crypt]

[boreal veldt]

yeah too much crit for fury

[runic crypt]

is there somewhere in this discord with stat priorities

[boreal veldt]

not this season cause it's pretty fluid for main stat prio but for fury it's always usually vers and mast

cause fury's whole deal is around it's mast

[runic crypt]

Gotcha i made it to 1900 with these stats so imagine what i can do with more mastery

ill def make the rings appreciate it bless nad syeggfryed

[green wharf]

verst>mas>haste

[boreal veldt]

bless

🙏

[rancid granite]

i keep seeing tons of people on murlok going a lot of haste too

i wonder if they're arms swappers

[boreal veldt]

Slam enjoyers

[green wharf]

i noticed a better performance on my fury by getting more haste

12%~~15%

seems better for thane

[rancid granite]

ahh interesting

i tried ss in my arms haste gear it just felt like fury to me im not good enough to realize

[green wharf]

and for slayer its get more slayer strike procs

[green wharf]

you still need a ton of haste too

im rocking 30% without the ilv scale

i think it goes 35~~37

[deep epoch]

Did you sim straight mastery build vs haste build?

[violet fossil]

there’s no simming in PvP

Simping

No simp

No simping

[runic crypt]

but like do i just work around things if i bought the wrong conquest items?

or am i cooked

[boreal veldt]

honestly the stats won't be that big of a deal until you get to 2100+ and even then probably not that bad

like you said you made it to 1900 already so

[runic crypt]

oh so im just garbo

damn

lmfao

[boreal veldt]

you can always roll a new warr, i hear lizard warriors are enjoying double jumps

[runic crypt]

im cooked

[boreal veldt]

[runic crypt]

but i might redo enchantments and embeleshiments i guess i can do that

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/00xvx00-gif-8007669

[stark agate]

Now I'm seeing people say Fury is better than Arms again in here? Why is that?

[rancid granite]

they play it

lol

[hasty pulsar]

are sweeping strike hits truly random? like will they hit pets and crap

[boreal veldt]

they prio players in melee but will hit pets as well

[hasty pulsar]

hmmmm ok sweet

[green wharf]

small brain boy

[boreal veldt]

yeah i've done a lot of testing with sharpen and if there are 2 players in range with pets sharpen hits both players

either that or im the luck god

[hasty pulsar]

im glad to hear they added some smart functionality to it

[boreal veldt]

blizz is pretty good about target classification because of their tab target system so they can add that to abilities

[hasty pulsar]

Yes I’ve noticed it’s great these days

With tab targeting

[boreal veldt]

Its like, NPC Target/PvP Player > Pet > Minion |> Totem
considering totem class cannot get aoe'd/cleaved

[green wharf]

you can also disable pet target

very useful against lobies filled with BM

[hasty pulsar]

How you do that

[green wharf]

there is a keybind, but i downloaded a mod

addon*

[boreal veldt]

i'm a degen who just clicks arena frames

[hasty pulsar]

Thanks for info I’m gonna get this

[hasty pulsar]

Whatever works to be honest lol

[rancid granite]

you can macro it too lol

pve - tab target all enemies

[stark agate]

Why don't more fury players go spear? You can get 2% extra haste and fury isn't really bleed damage heavy like arms is

[rancid granite]

pvp - tab target ONLY players (no pets)

right next to pve/pvp gear swaps

[green wharf]

because spear sucks ass

nerfed in pvp and the duration is too low

unless you have a nice comp i dont think its worthy

[rancid granite]

45sec cd huge bleed +5% dmg buff while they bleed for ~20 seconds is just a lot to give up

[green wharf]

on my thane lol run i didnt use both

[boreal veldt]

cursed af

i love it

[rancid granite]

i saw that build on a fury the other day who stomped everyone lol

idk if thane but he had the other talents setup the same

no roar, no spear, just pure pump

[green wharf]

it had some crazy pressure, low burst, but the pressure and the cleave made it worthy

[rancid granite]

yeah it was 100% felt lol

just a juggernaut not letting up

[stark agate]

lock or spriest to target?

[copper fox]

I like SP because it can’t move and you can shut a higher % of dmg down.
Depends on lock spec tho

[green wharf]

on a side note i did had shockwave and the following talent, but this was the delve build

not completely brainrotted yet

[deep epoch]

That’s basically my setup, except I don’t use ww instead roar.

Well nvm I don’t use thane either. 🙂

[green wharf]

Thane is the hidden meta

next time thane will get buffed even more and slayer will be nerfed

said first

[hasty pulsar]

how difficult is the 2100 to 2400 grind in ss

[copper fox]

I’m stuck right under 2300 rn, my cr caught up to my mmr so I need a big win lol

It’s not much harder tbh the issue is the classes you’re running into now

It’s basically only meta

It’s getting

TIGHT

[green wharf]

what are the worst against

BM and?

[copper fox]

BM, dev, aff locks… also healer dependent. Hpals in those lobbies screw warriors over a lot because of bop and freedom

Especially bop

[runic crypt]

Can you enchant a item with a embelleshment?

[copper fox]

Yes

[runic crypt]

ok thanks

[green wharf]

yeah, seems like its all war problems

sometimes i got some funky ele that are hard

a small victory

[runic crypt]

stats are less fucked but still fucked

it is what it is

[rancid granite]

thats a l ot of crit

[runic crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/iknow-cry-cryknow-gif-21141666

1900 tho in solo shuffle

[rancid granite]

what you fury guys say for barbarian/battle trance/ enduring rage/disarm

i keep seeing fury and i missed it so im going back for a bit

frenzied vs powerful enrage in the same question

[verbal tangle]

Battlefield Commander/Slaughterhouse/Fill, usually Barbarian or Battle Trance

[rancid granite]

BT seems like an easy go-to fill really

[green wharf]

this

but also throw disarm

[rancid granite]

i guess disarm easy too to know when to pick

either way im flicking thru them all in SS

[deep epoch]

Battle trance / disarm

Either extra healing or extra utility. Most time I’m going extra healing

[rancid granite]

yeah thats my thoughts for the baseline

the extra defense is nice

with frenzied vs pwoerful enrage i was just grabbing frenzied vs ranged

basically movement speed talent 🤷

[jovial torrent]

so the reset broke solo shuffle i guess , everyone on the same team

[green wharf]

easiest win

now i member, didnt used to have 5x5

or am i dreaming

[boreal veldt]

they got rid of it at the start of legion

it was a miserable bracket imo

[urban skiff]

It could have been good, if they had added 5v5 specific rules instead of letting it be a completely free bracket.

Like a mix between bg and arenas. Add some goals other than kills, enforce comps, maybe x number of freebie respawns.

[boreal veldt]

they kinda tried that in bfa pvp islands

[green wharf]

yeah i remember seeing some tournaments

[boreal veldt]

but there was like 0 incentive to pvp island

[green wharf]

sheesh

how much the conquest cap increase each week?

[urban skiff]

600

550 bloody tokens + 600 conq per week

[green wharf]

then i think i will get the conq trinkets next week

and stay with bracers and cape from blood tokens

[urban skiff]

I hate the conq trinkets

I hate that the on-use is crit instead of haste or mastery

[green wharf]

all the chads use the proc one

proc = less thinking

[urban skiff]

They're bad at math

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

just us in colossus, we love crit

JOIN BONK BOIS

[urban skiff]

on anything but fury the crit trinket is fine. I'll still pick it up for my shaman despite haste being superior

[boreal veldt]

it should be mast imo

[urban skiff]

yup

[boreal veldt]

or even more cowardly just vers

[urban skiff]

or if they have to make it a stat stick, make it equal parts vers/master/haste/crit

[boreal veldt]

i hate that they just gave up on interesting trinkets after bfa

SL*

[urban skiff]

imagine if every season there was a pvp version of the high end pve trinkets but tuned for pvp

You could be basic and go with the standard conq trinkets or be spicy and go with some of the weird trinkets that perform better if you have the skill to use them right

[boreal veldt]

i do like that idea

[urban skiff]

the community would take that and run with it, turning it into somethng toxic though

[boreal veldt]

cause they'd never do that with anything else

[urban skiff]

Like the basic trinkets would forever be garbage and anyone using them branded complete losers who cannot play their class well

Like the proc defensive trinket today

some people literally have reduced number of fingers and even they don't get a pass for macroing cooldowns together or using proc cc removal trinket

[boreal veldt]

just went conq bracers this week and threw em in the catalyst

[urban skiff]

reminder for everyone that catalyst is a way to get the pve tier set appearance

[green wharf]

for the mog?

[boreal veldt]

that but also high vers

[reef sorrel]

Boys prot pvp is the undercover broke game on before everyone finds out

[urban skiff]

not that undercover. We've been saying it for ages now

[green wharf]

the true gem is thane

[granite epoch]

i had a prot warr 6-0 a lobby today on my healer alt lol

1800 mmr too

[cinder thorn]

I actually like to use that sometimes

For the short 1min CD

[cobalt gale]

Rip!

[exotic forge]

Won't be that big of a deal imo

[cobalt gale]

Yea like mortal strike matters

[exotic forge]

I mean, are we surprised at this point? They still haven't unnerfed Martial Prowess

[cobalt gale]

🤣🤣👍

[cinder thorn]

It's OK we still got Slam

To be fair I noticed a considerable increase in difficulty fighting arms war as fury in the recent past after they buffed

Which I'm sure felt great for arms

But maybe sent lots of people crying because immediately I noticed lobbies with more wars and blitz with three to four wars in lol

Because war is easy to play it is one class which they will always nerf because everyone and their mum will switch to it

Unlike harder classes to play which even when they're buffed not a lot of people would

So blizzard will easily notice and quickly nerf

[urban skiff]

why does this read like a cata tooltip?

All rogues are masterminds who work hard to do their burst

[green wharf]

hIgH cEiLliNg ClAsS

[urban skiff]

guess I'm gearing a rogue now

my wife's a rogue, we can be pure cancer in 2v2 at least

[jovial torrent]

wait are they actually nerfing arms lol

also somehow just had a 200 mmr priest in my 1800 lobby go 0-6

[boreal veldt]

no, it's just past notes from them over buffing ms to 30% instead of 15%

what you're reading is already live and has been since reset

well last week's reset

[urban skiff]

stop reading datamined tooltips

it's never worth anything until wowhead translates it from green to blue text

skirmiiiish

good luck my brown brothers

is it ok or trolling to macro /lol together with burrow?

[jovial torrent]

i didnt read any datamines i read the picture that was posted in discord, havent been playing war this week so not really payed much attention @urban skiff

[fierce elm]

You wait until people much smarter than you are to say what the notes mean

works every time

[fierce elm]

You are such a casual player I love it

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-the-legend-of-ron-burgundy-comedy-paul-rudd-sex-panther-gif-3521955

[fluid jacinth]

Done at long last

[fierce elm]

where enchant

[urban skiff]

skirmish enjoyer

[urban skiff]

shuffle so uuugh

[fierce elm]

Shuffle so mcuh fun tbh

this is the aids part

SOMEONE QUEUE UP

[urban skiff]

fuck i'm so bad today

[fierce elm]

2-4 oooof

both healers going 0 rating is pretty funny lmao

[frigid basin]

and thats why I don't heal

tried it on DF and got tired of it within a month

felt like a huge waste of time

[urban skiff]

would have won two more but literally missed kills by 1 global

i think my MMR is in trouble though unless I go 5 or 6 wins next

[fierce elm]

I just wish I could get into a game tbh

I mean 1843mmr aint bad

for that rating

[urban skiff]

true

but they're going to converge just below 1800 if I look at the trend of lost MMR vs gained rating

been going 2-4; 4-2; 2-4 today

it's a recipe for stagnation

[fierce elm]

lmao

yeah

I always think I just gotta go 3-3 at minimum

seems to work out

[urban skiff]

I should have pushed my shaman before the patch , back when the build was stronger

[fierce elm]

Though doesnt exactly correlate right now considering I have high ass MMR compared to my rating

[urban skiff]

I have the option to switch to something much better but I just really really don't like that playstyle

[fierce elm]

I mean fuck it

fun is more important anyways

[fierce elm]

bruh what the FUCK

: (

[jovial torrent]

it is such a damn shame dps queues are so bad, been playing pala/ monk healer with instant queues, but i really do wana play some warrior lock ect

[urban skiff]

dps queues are longer when you play something popular

[jovial torrent]

just saving up enough tokens to instantly get my fury war full gear once it hits 80

[urban skiff]

my first 3 queues were under 3 minute

should have been a hint it was going to be a stomp

[fierce elm]

Paladin queues are wild : (

[urban skiff]

tokens?

[jovial torrent]

even if u lose as a healer u get a 50 conquest warbound token

[urban skiff]

oh

[fierce elm]

wtf

[jovial torrent]

i have like 3k worth of conquest tokens atm

[fierce elm]

thats actually pretty fucking NEAT

[urban skiff]

hell lobby tbh

[jovial torrent]

u also get pvp crafting recipies somtimes

[urban skiff]

where my warriors at?

[jovial torrent]

ive seen quite a few warriors actually in my monks games today

so many fucking rogues tho its bs, shadowsteap kidney, into blind, gouge garrote, cheap cheap

duel

makes me wana dump all my conquest into a assassin rogue instead of 2nd war

[cobalt gale]

U sure?

[fierce elm]

I got the warrior

[exotic forge]

Gnome warrior, that guy knows what's up

[urban skiff]

this is a crap lobby

😦

ofc dh is doing well

dh doing really well tbh

like i said MMR and rating converging just below 1800

the ship for using momentum has sailed

[fierce elm]

KEK

[urban skiff]

next hope is farming some tired dads after work. Daytime players are so sweaty

[exotic forge]

Tell me about it

[fierce elm]

this warrior PUMPED

he went 6-0 lmao

[wraith sluice]

hey guys ... fury or arms for pvp actually (blitz/solo shuffle) ... or is it just about own preference ?

[exotic forge]

My man

[exotic forge]

It's all personal preference (play Arms)

[fierce elm]

makes sense, glad every season lmao

what a CHAD

still got 12 rating for a2-4

[exotic forge]

Kinda saw it coming when I noticed gnome racial

[fierce elm]

gnome is CRINGE

did get a couple of BIG hits though

[exotic forge]

Maybe but that racial is powerful

[wraith sluice]

is there a good guide (text or video) that u can recommend ?

[cobalt gale]

Does racials even matter now?

[exotic forge]

Some do imo

[rancid granite]

not as much as all these nerd making them out to be imo

:D

[cobalt gale]

Yea

[exotic forge]

Bajheera, Laros, Magnus or Mudcx

They all have good guides

[exotic forge]

But undead racial

[rancid granite]

i just know gnome makes you a chump

i think fred durst made a song about gnomes back in the day

https://tenor.com/view/limp-bizkit-freddurst-durst-fred-gif-22721829

yeah im bringing all these 90s references back first space jam now limp bizkit

[slow solstice]

is there a way to check a replay of a pvp match similar to wcl?

[green wharf]

these giraffe dragon rerolls thinking they will be better now

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[rancid granite]

the mario koopa headed dragons

[slender wedge]

pls .)

[fierce elm]

no

[fierce elm]

I think wacraft logs has that

But you have to log it

I can be wrong however

best bet is to just record your games tbh

[slow solstice]

i had the nastiest game and it will never been seen

was at lethal for like 15-20 seconds

but second wind kept me alive for so long

[slow solstice]

this good for 6 days of playing?

[green wharf]

[copper fox]

Nah 6 days is a lot tbh

You should be top 5 realistically

[winged quest]

atleast

[copper fox]

I hit a good ss streak yesterday. 2 lobbies without BM hunters

[slow solstice]

should have clarified 6 days from 0 pvp exp

[elfin surge]

we're so back

[copper fox]

Nice, you should be able to hit 2.4 in a few hours at that pace.
Force x mass = 2.4 solo shuffle

[cobalt gale]

What happened?

[elfin surge]

It's time to win bro

q pop

[slow solstice]

gl

[sharp meteor]

blood/arms/fw?

[elfin surge]

cmon bruh

[lavish quest]

@wheat jayWhy does this hero talent exist? It's literally pointless

[wheat jay]

Condemn

[elfin surge]

Cringedemn

[lavish quest]

But the ability already does it by default

It literally changes nothing

[sharp meteor]

Everything reminds me of her (Shadowlands Warrior)

[lavish quest]

Notice I don't have that talent selected

And it already does the condemn thing

No one test this shit? lul

[elfin surge]

I thought this was the warrior discord not beta cord?

[lavish quest]

Artji's a hunter

So I came to him for answers

[elfin surge]

doomed

Artji too far gone

[lavish quest]

MUD got big britches for finally being in the discord for the first time in a month

This hasn't been a warrior discord for a couple months now

Trash class, blizz hates it

[elfin surge]

lol is it still bad

[lavish quest]

is it still warrior?

[elfin surge]

i qd an rbg last night and was top damage (i won ofc)

warrior confirmed back

[lavish quest]

I can do top dam too, ez

Still trash

[elfin surge]

I 3x enemy warrior damage

[slow solstice]

player diff?

[elfin surge]

yea that means im 3x the player

[slow solstice]

real

[lavish quest]

Means the other warrior sat 3x more roots

[slow solstice]

you guys also use

woah

[lavish quest]

ragey

[wheat jay]

I don't even pvp

Or play hunter anymore lol

[green wharf]

that talent is the goat

[slow solstice]

hi artji