for Elite weapons?
#pvp
fierce elm
wheat jay
2100
fierce elm
or is it 2100
fierce elm
Yeah all I need is 2100
wheat jay
weapons suck dick xD
fickle forge
What are you now?
fierce elm
got like 2k conq to gain
1840?
1830v
?
Im not sure
we ended at like 1950mmr I think
fierce elm
I mean ima do that too lmao
its just that 2100 is limited rewards and I got everything from m+ already
fickle forge
I mean we can get 2100 easily
fierce elm
Yeah just gotta do it
3s is more enjoyable than SS tbh
Probs leveling warrior and grabbing 1800 in SS on that for warr elite set
fickle forge
But can we be fucked to be farmed by an 1800 xp uwuker who let his ChatGPT script run while he scrolls R34 for some lizard fun
fickle forge
Plays ranged class
"It felt good into evoker I'm telling you"
urban skiff
It's not hip to be bad. So I can never be hipster
green wharf
im seeing a lot of warrior rerolling to giraffe, pathetic
maghar orcs are coming big with the secondary stat bonus
urban skiff
im seeing a lot of warrior rerolling to giraffe, pathetic
Giraffe what?
green wharf
Giraffe what?
lavish quest
You just think they're good
sharp meteor
Bodyguard is probably one of the best honor talents in the game.
It's better than anything else Warrior has.
urban skiff
You just think they're good
There are no bad prot talents that aren't also bad arms/fury talents.
green wharf
You just think they're good
dragon charge, thunderstruck and war path seems pretty decent to me
lavish quest
dragon charge, thunderstruck and war path seems pretty decent to me
You have to play prot to get them, thus, they're bad
sharp meteor
You have to play prot to get them, thus, they're bad
Prot is pretty okay in 3s
green wharf
You have to play prot to get them, thus, they're bad
best warrior spec for pvp though
lavish quest
sharp meteor
Wish unh was war crime tier again unh/prot is a cozy time 
green wharf
willow plover
blood dk, bm hunter and frost mage has to be the most cancerous lobby i ever had in shuffle.. Literally you getting focused 100% of the time and never being able to catch up to anyone
chilly magnet
They need to make avatar have some cc immunity not just break roots and snares
Break snare just to be snared or rooted right after
fierce elm
blood dk, bm hunter and frost mage has to be the most cancerous lobby i ever had...
lmao
fickle forge
They need to make avatar have some cc immunity not just break roots and snares
Eksdee
Can we just make everyone immune at all times at this point
green wharf
why not
rancid granite
let bubble hearth be useable in rated
rancid granite
prot in shuffle is just an annoying root machine
willow plover
bm hunters has to be removed
verbal tangle
prot in shuffle is just an annoying root machine
Root into Demo
deep epoch
I played a game vs prot/hpal… i did 100mil, prot did 70mil… so it does dmg, just don’t see the amount of pressure being applied to the healer. I was also chasing a hpally so dmg lower than usual.
Idk I’ve only seen one prot war. lol
fickle forge
I played a game vs prot/hpal… i did 100mil, prot did 70mil… so it does dmg, just...
Considering you did almost 50% more dam than him, I wouldn't exactly call it good dam
Tanks can sorta work if you can pair up with an S++ tier dps
fickle forge
Whenever the meta had a dps that can practically solo people with low effort
Then prot works
fluid jacinth
Just had a SS game with a Demo Lock, Devoker and BM hunter. I play fury warrior, any tips on how to approach this game and team? Who to focus mainly on?
urban skiff
Considering you did almost 50% more dam than him, I wouldn't exactly call it goo...
Overall dam doesn't matter except if you win by dampening. For everything else it's burst dps to create danger situations and CC to extend the danger situation up to next burst.
rancid granite
true, fury warrior topped dps my last ss but only won 1 round
kindred narwhal
Any one got some weakauras for Death wish? Need it for info timer and stack. This from buff bar is to small for me
winged quest
Just had a SS game with a Demo Lock, Devoker and BM hunter. I play fury warrior,...
cry and go next
fickle forge
Overall dam doesn't matter except if you win by dampening. For everything else i...
The win by dampening thing doesn't really hold true that much anymore
Dampening win condition was a thing when some specs were PvE oriented and others around setups
lavish quest
Overall dam doesn't matter except if you win by dampening. For everything else i...
Overall dam = pressure higher
You'll burn through enemies CDs faster. Have people on the verge of dying more. Demand more of enemy healer.
urban skiff
Overall dam = pressure higher
Overall damage is itself a meaningless metric. It only matters in relation to how a healer can cope with incoming damage.
Just look at sub rogues 100-0ing people despite bekng lowest overall damage.
What matters is burst. Everything else is a metric that relates to burst but is less detailed.
Informational entropy at work.
Or in other words
Zugzugg
fickle forge
Overall damage is itself a meaningless metric. It only matters in relation to ho...
But this isn't even true anymore dude
Sub rogues top the meters with Rupture
And burst metas are gone along with the CC duration adjustments
sharp meteor
Guys look at my overall with diseases on unholy goes 0-6
urban skiff
But this isn't even true anymore dude
Rogue can afk for the first 3 minutes. Stop afk'ing game and be the reason you get the kill.
fickle forge
And how many of them do this
Cause the way I see it, sub rogue 1.5% of the ladder above 2.2k
urban skiff
It's not a matter of how they do. It's a matter of explaining what I'm saying by creating exaggerated situations that highlight the point.
fickle forge
Maybe?
All I'm saying dude, is that RMP used to be a setup comp that'd lose if they couldn't kill you within 3 min
And now they damp you
Along with every comp in the game
When they nuked CC durations and CDs, then the game turned to overall damage
sharp meteor
All I'm saying dude, is that RMP used to be a setup comp that'd lose if they cou...
when was this
urban skiff
My math teacher always said whenever you get a formula containing x, make x = -1000000, make x = 0, make x = 1000000
It highlights extremeties to find the line
sharp meteor
are u talkin like sub disc fire a decade ago or what
cos most variants of rmp are basically just a cleave
sharp meteor
rmp also damped u in sl
fickle forge
With the outlaw arcane RMP outlier being the first damp variation we had had in a while
fickle forge
No they didn't
sharp meteor
they did at real mmrs
fickle forge
At real MMRs jungle cleave ran them over in 2 min
urban skiff
Rmp right now just burn through defensives and then go kill younin a bomb duel. Right?
It's hardly about setup and just about using burst effectively.
Every point of damage rogue does outside that combo is not to score kills.
sharp meteor
At real MMRs jungle cleave ran them over in 2 min
nah
although there was a bit of a
retwarr eat jungle
jungle eat rm
rm eat retwarr
urban skiff
Again. Overall damage contains worse quality information than burst damage. Informational entropy
fickle forge
That was the trinity in S2 ye
But we can take another example, like jungle cleave wanting to make trap goes
But now you just have 20 pets on you doing double your dam
Feral being one of them
sharp meteor
idk why u use jungl as exampl cos thats a counter
when even then rm lived forever
and legit couldnt die into most things
fickle forge
?
fickle forge
I think you're talking about something else dude
fickle forge
Brother we're talking about whether the meta is doing sustained damage or not
You're talking to yourself with this shit
sharp meteor
And now they damp you
i mean
fickle forge
Yeah that's on topic to the above
Lmao
Comps that used to kill you in a setup now just do damage
lavish quest
Overall damage is itself a meaningless metric. It only matters in relation to ho...
Well warriors don't win with burst
willow plover
Do you guys like running disarm into paladin?
lavish quest
So overall is our metric
winged quest
Do you guys like running disarm into paladin?
na$
sharp meteor
Do you guys like running disarm into paladin?
underhwleming into ret
willow plover
what do u run then into like bm and ret pala?
fierce elm
Don't listen to these nerds
it can do stuff
If they run radiant glory Disarm gains more value
willow plover
i like to disarm wings
fierce elm
Source: am a ret main
winged quest
dont trust theses light bois
urban skiff
Well warriors don't win with burst
Why do warriors forget that ms is a thing and effectively warrior+partner damage is 20% larger (and enemy hp pools 20% larger as well)?
Math is math.
lavish quest
How is that important? Everyone has an MS nowadays
cinder thorn
pala is just a holy mage
you watch Venruki too much bro
cinder thorn
How is that important? Everyone has an MS nowadays
everyone and their mum
winged quest
you watch Venruki too much bro
i dont lol
willow plover
Can someone explain to me how other classes can live like normal but fury cannot stay alive while having enrage uptime that gives damage reduction
Like i just drop dead after a while.. And if i notice dampening is too high and swap stance we just cant win cause the damage is never there
stark agate
I kill and burst shit on fury and arms brah idk what this disc is on about
If you want a class that does useless damage look at windwalker
fickle forge
Why do warriors forget that ms is a thing and effectively warrior+partner damage...
I think all comps have MS these days
fickle forge
If you want a class that does useless damage look at windwalker
This dude is definitely cooked
boreal veldt
I think all comps have MS these days
what's feral's ms%?
if you know just off the top i mean
boreal veldt
Can someone explain to me how other classes can live like normal but fury cannot...
i usually chalk that up to a healer issue or maybe i made a bad read and i accidently stacked walls
urban skiff
I think all comps have MS these days
Imagine giving enh and ret a ms effect
fickle forge
what's feral's ms%?
Don't quote me, but 20% iirc
fickle forge
Imagine giving enh and ret a ms effect
Enh would be viable if it got MS
urban skiff
Enh would be viable if it got MS
Enh would be fucking wild with ms effect.
It's why we play so well with ms specs.
boreal veldt
i'd be fine with enh's spirit wolves putting up an ms effect
fickle forge
The converse BM hunter special
urban skiff
what's feral's ms%?
Everyone has the same ms except fury warriors (baseline), arms with sharpen, and rogue still shiv wound poison?
fickle forge
They aren't all the same intensity though
urban skiff
i'd be fine with enh's spirit wolves putting up an ms effect
I don't like ms tied to a talent i could in theory want to ignore.
boreal veldt
I don't like ms tied to a talent i could in theory want to ignore.
thats fair, was trying to think outside of the generic "pvp talent that adds ms to [ability]"
urban skiff
Tie it to consuming mw stacks. Make it different from just ms up always.
Like idk, more like fury but not stacking in a dumb way.
Just make it interesting and skill based.
For the love of god just don't put it on a totem
hexed ether
no they are heavily nerfed in pvp. i have the cloak and ring and they are nerfed into the ground.
boreal veldt
no they are heavily nerfed in pvp. i have the cloak and ring and they are nerfed...
actually theres this trinket called abyssal trap, it's niche but my brewmaster bud throws it on cap points in bgb and it's just a free 10sec flag spin against druid/rogue cheese
pure hornet
Armory is down
Since like two dayz
And murlok is no longer correct
What is happening
boreal veldt
And murlok is no longer correct
What is happening
Blizz killed PVP
IT'S OVER
WE'RE FREE
urban skiff
Wife plays rogue. What healer should i make to play blitz with her but also do well in 2s?
copper fox
Enhance is fine
urban skiff
Enhance is fine
Bigdam isn't a person. He's a beast.
Enh is always fine in his hands. He did enh fdk and took out cdew. He's the reason cdew cried on Twitter.
Literally fucked up team liquid with some off meta shit and the team name was F tier. Fucking hilarious
violet fossil
Bigdam isn't a person. He's a beast.
Enh is always fine in his hands. He did en...
he’s the reason they nerfed fdk more
urban skiff
I need answers for my question. I want to help my wife shine and maybe get a nice 1800 set myself.
Better nerf chill streak
willow plover
Is that some enhance savant or just some new guy that popped up?
violet fossil
Is that some enhance savant or just some new guy that popped up?
enhance rider
guy had like 10 alts up top like that in df too
urban skiff
Yea maybe? I'm asking because I don't know naything about healers
Thing is it has to be viable in 2s, decent in 3s, and functional in blitz (not actively handicapping team)
so maybe prevoker?
boreal veldt
thank you for this demolish soft lock bug blizz, big fun, all but my defensives are gray
10/10
hot solstice
buff bm?(5-1 on arms btw)
urban skiff
is that enh or ele?
hot solstice
ele enha resto
wheat jay
thank you for this demolish soft lock bug blizz, big fun, all but my defensives ...
Ayyy its happejing in pvp now too xD
This is from my ovinax progress yesterday
urban skiff
ele enha resto
I'm loving the enh-pocalypse
boreal veldt
Not in a good way
yeah i used demo on a voker who time stopped and get grayed out the whole round
urban skiff
Demolish is just broken
this is why we play thane now instead of colossus
wheat jay
yeah i used demo on a voker who time stopped and get grayed out the whole round
So ye there's a desync or sth
urban skiff
I will eye beam you back to tbc
send me back to vanilla.
wasn't a better game, but those were some very happy carefree days
tbc was stressful because pvp became arenas instead of bgs
urban skiff
so? play thane
THANE
or if you really want to play demolish, enh surging totem for big dam sunderings.
literally demolish without a cast time
wheat jay
literally demolish without a cast time
Ok but I raid on warrior my guy 
boreal veldt
it's so simple, just make the 3rd hit a true aoe with a prio target
anyway, we gym now
wheat jay
it's so simple, just make the 3rd hit a true aoe with a prio target
I mean, theyd need to remove the channel part to fix it
I wouldn't mind personally
kind sentinel
I think I’d rather it be a cast than a channel at the very least
Best world would be one button press like rampage but blizzard hates us so I doubt that happens
wheat jay
Ye sadly
It would fix the positional issues
And that bug with it locking you out of your abilities lol
rancid granite
make demolish a charge like fyrlath was (?) instead of a channel
hasty pulsar
wait are people playing demolish these days
orchid badge
whats wrong with rated matchmaking
im getting waves of 20+/0- games
climbed to 2150 cause i never lost rating when i lost
now im winning 5 per game and losing 16 again
fell down to 2030 😄
blitz
copper fox
Huge
willow plover
I dropped from 2.2k to 2k now like 6 times
orchid badge
I dropped from 2.2k to 2k now like 6 times
did you deserve 2.2k?
chilly pivot
its no stop here
willow plover
did you deserve 2.2k?
Does it matter? what kind of question is that
hasty pulsar
lol
urban skiff
anyway, we gym now
What you hitting? I did vertical press day
copper fox
did you deserve 2.2k?
Lmfao bruh
urban skiff
Best world would be one button press like rampage but blizzard hates us so I dou...
Blizzard gonna fix it by making it like evoker's empowered cast
boreal veldt
What you hitting? I did vertical press day
yeeee we doing vert here too, then we split squatting before pull ups and finishing with goblet squats and rows
fierce elm
I thought after the first queue shit would get faster wtf
orchid badge
Does it matter? what kind of question is that
well im curious if you felt like you earned the wins, and then blizzard took your rating away by making you lose 😄
urban skiff
<@278157108791476224>
Should have lined that, bro
willow plover
well im curious if you felt like you earned the wins, and then blizzard took you...
I have lobby like 2 bm hunter + frost mage or double frost and blood dk and i have this sooo many games in a row
I dont deserve anything in this game
fierce elm
YALL GET LOBBIES
willow plover
Im legit in cc 50% of the round according to details
urban skiff
I have lobby like 2 bm hunter + frost mage or double frost and blood dk and i ha...
imma be real
I kinda like bm lobbies on my enh
willow plover
i think on my fury its on par with frost mage last week
chilly pivot
anyone have that problem that randomly change target? i get this problem like yesterday hmm..
fierce elm
would be neat to get a queue
willow plover
would be neat to get a queue
this queue system is scuffed af it says 15 minute but one time u get it in 1 minute next time takes 40 minutes its just so unreliable
fierce elm
I hate this
willow plover
best is to queue like mid day when noone is playing
fierce elm
I just wanted to hammer slam some 1600 noobs
fierce elm
wtf
urban skiff
anyone have that problem that randomly change target? i get this problem like ye...
either your action targetting is enabled and it happens when hunter feigns dead or you're using one of my macros without knowing
fierce elm
now this is what I LIKE
willow plover
shit lobby
lavish quest
He's not playing war tho
willow plover
Id go like 1/6 or 2/6 in that lobby for sure
chilly pivot
either your action targetting is enabled and it happens when hunter feigns dead ...
haha okey xd nothing of that i think haha
fierce elm
probs still going 0/6
lavish quest
It's EU so I'd 6-0 it
fierce elm
because no ranged has an idea how to play with a melee class lmao
the hunter probably does
willow plover
EU is a lot harder than NA man sorry to say
willow plover
Its just common knowledge
willow plover
Barely survive my own so i 100% believe u
urban skiff
the hunter probably does
to a hunter, warrior is just another pet
willow plover
I mean when there is a hunter in the lobby i just hope that he can carry me for 1-2 rounds
Just do what he says without question
Tends to become a problem though in double hunter lobbies
chilly pivot
is /startattack stil i thing in macros?
fierce elm
I play the warrior way
either they go in and win
or we lose
I aint playing fucking ranged
willow plover
ret pala can play ranged?
lavish quest
They just stand a lil bit away, and do their dps rotation
willow plover
sounds op
lavish quest
It is. But mages, locks, hunters, etc etc have been doing it forever, so why not
fierce elm
Literally just stand a bit behind
all we lose is the cleave damage
but we can kite more
jk 4-2
urban skiff
literally playing around on a 20 year old character right now
fierce elm
sounds op
anyways we lose a lot of damage because of it
because we can't benefit from all the passives that we have
its really good when you are low health and need to play around pillar
the issue is that you don't want to be forced into playing ranged
But for example a good Ret will never go into full cleave if there are 4 melee on the map
because fuck that
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224>
"I don't like Hammer of Light guys"
fickle forge
lavish quest
U don't like the big bonk?
latent pewter
how does anything feel more smooth than dropping a giant hammer on someone’s forehead
iron fractal
Improved bloodthrist, or Fresh meat?
green wharf
depends on your build
iron fractal
What depends on it?
urban skiff
and what content you're doing
iron fractal
Open world pvp and battlegrounds.
green wharf
usually improv bloodthirst is better
iron fractal
How so?
hasty pulsar
can you change hero specs round to round in ss
green wharf
How so?
its the most popular pick on murlok i.o by people rated 2k+, so it should be better
green wharf
can you change hero specs round to round in ss
you can
hasty pulsar
interesting
does anyone play both slayer and colossus in that way? like I feel like perhaps certain comps are better to play into for certain hero specs.. or do you guys mostly stick to one hero spec
cinder thorn
no they are heavily nerfed in pvp. i have the cloak and ring and they are nerfed...
thx dude
green wharf
does anyone play both slayer and colossus in that way? like I feel like perhaps ...
didnt try arms yet, but as fury sometimes i did swap then
slayer for more ST and thane for cleave
hexed ether
does anyone play both slayer and colossus in that way? like I feel like perhaps ...
I do swap from slayer and colossus depending on the match ups.
jovial torrent
oh damn that starts now does it, i was thinking it started tomorrow since im uk and its still 4th
green wharf
30 minutes until the longest election begins.
to pick up the new horde warchief?
chilly pivot
oh damn that starts now does it, i was thinking it started tomorrow since im uk ...
What start
jovial torrent
murica starts its journey to freedom 
crude bane
Blitz battleground mmr still shit show?
chilly pivot
murica starts its journey to freedom <:SweatPopcorn:997088541903421550>
Haha im stupid, don’t understand haha
willow plover
Tbh they should make it so enraged regeneration makes you imune to cc for the duration
green wharf
Blitz battleground mmr still shit show?
it always was
jovial torrent
us president votes start getting counted or last day to vote, dunno not american
crude bane
Nice.
jovial torrent
also dracthyr fury warrior leveling begins, and rip to all my tender
hexed ether
Tbh they should make it so enraged regeneration makes you imune to cc for the du...
No
rancid granite
also dracthyr fury warrior leveling begins, and rip to all my tender
-fury warrior
-1 weapon
hexed ether
Tbh they should make it so enraged regeneration makes you imune to cc for the du...
Shorter cd would do
jovial torrent
yeh exactly, also totally not cus my war is still lvl 10 and havent clicked the activate spec button
stark agate
Why do I feel like Intervene just doesn't work sometimes? Are there certain abilities that bypass it?
jovial torrent
if u mean its not eating the spell u want, it can be taken by any shitter auto or proc i think so hard to block a spell
hexed ether
Why do I feel like Intervene just doesn't work sometimes? Are there certain abil...
It only intervenes physical abilities
Like rogue war kicks stuns etc
rancid granite
its varian sword, it split in two
oh dang thats cool i didnt realize; gonna split it off like cloud in advent children
super rp and nerdy i like it
green wharf
but in serious it doesnt split in the game, sadly
they could have made two one handed to match, but too much work
rancid granite
varian's sword itself should be in game
hasty pulsar
is varians sword all spiky and shit on the hilt like this one we got
i dont remember
hasty pulsar
yeah why dont we get that
fierce elm
sky in game
distant dagger
We got sylvanas armor, now give me varian armor
rancid granite
i think its ingame ima go look
violet fossil
varian's sword itself should be in game
Shalamayne
lavish quest
30 minutes until the longest election begins.
We don't start the election on EU time...
jovial torrent
i just hope those mountain dew promo bikes comes to eu
coolest mount in years and possibly na only
fierce elm
ask a NA buddy to buy mountain dew
green wharf
that red motorcycle looks sick
lavish quest
There's other colors of it
green wharf
thankfully we can get the green one in the game
jovial torrent
the red one with blackrock mog and taeshalach
violet fossil
Yes. It would even fit the class from a rp perspective
it should be the old version
willow plover
What is the old version?
violet fossil
it healed back a % over time
green wharf
rancid granite
oh im dumb anduin is weailing shalamaybe now thats why
willow plover
Thats like second wind talent no?
Idk it doesnt sound op or anything to me, alot of other classes has imunes to everything so fury can have that no problem
green wharf
#bringbackmopsecondwind
green wharf
oh im dumb anduin is weailing shalamaybe now thats why
its not like they cant add from timerifts
we got gorehowl that way
hexed ether
Yes. It would even fit the class from a rp perspective
No
green wharf
sick looking weapon
green wharf
and you are stupid if you use as a non orc 
willow plover
https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Enraged_Regeneration
Nice thats also a bit better cause ur not force to give up ur dps rotation in order for it to work like it is nw
hexed ether
Yes it would. Now if u dont have anything to say stop pinging me with random bs
It doesn’t fit for rp and an immunity that can be used while stunned would be op.
green wharf
bubble?
willow plover
It doesn’t fit for rp and an immunity that can be used while stunned would be op...
Thats literally fury that u get enraged so ur unstoppable wydm
cyan canopy
Wait why do people run 2 set instead of 4 on fury? Or murlok is fucked up?
frigid basin
there are top players who run 4set
hexed ether
Thats literally fury that u get enraged so ur unstoppable wydm
Enrage doesn’t make you unstoppable and can be soothed.
violet fossil
Enrage doesn’t make you unstoppable and can be soothed.
“Jacked off”
willow plover
It doesn’t fit for rp and an immunity that can be used while stunned would be op...
It would not be op to have a wall ability that makes u imune for 8 seconds when dragons are imune for 30 seconds with their ability, half the classes cannot be slowed with hamstring and like i said u have to give up ur rotation just for ur wall to even be functional.
cyan canopy
there are top players who run 4set
Any reason to run 2set? Are set stats that garbage?
green wharf
You can’t md or shatter ER
right, but is a imunity that can be used stunned
isnt that op
frigid basin
as Fury one way to do it "better" is to get the Conquest chest as offpart. That way you don't lose that much Vers.
willow plover
Compare fury defensives as it is right now to literally any other class man it has no identity whatsoever its just a bad ability
hexed ether
Dragons shroud can be purged, sapped, etc off.
frigid basin
Any reason to run 2set? Are set stats that garbage?
Thane may get more juice from 4p because it has bigger bloodbaths I think
hexed ether
Compare fury defensives as it is right now to literally any other class man it h...
Just needs a shorter cd
willow plover
Yeah and then they hower away and still cannot be slowed
Still lacking class identity with a lower cd
green wharf
Thane may get more juice from 4p because it has bigger bloodbaths I think
it does
its sweet
willow plover
The only thing that make fury fury right now is that u press ur buttons fast
hexed ether
Only spec with two twohanders
willow plover
Is it also the only spec that requires you to press 2 abilities for ur wall to work?
fierce elm
Class identity in wow 2024 kekw
hexed ether
😂
green wharf
says the paladin
willow plover
The damage reduction is garbage compared to other classes walls
fierce elm
The issue is that fury is built on self-sustain to be their defensive, that hasnt been updated yet
willow plover
Yeah the self sustain is non existent
fierce elm
the other issue is that its decent in PvE and downright good in some PvE instances
so it wont see change
green wharf
The issue is that fury is built on self-sustain to be their defensive, that hasn...
so you are saying the issue is playing fury?
hexed ether
That’s why it needs a shorter cd
violet fossil
so you are saying the issue is playing fury? <:gladge:963970137701109820>
the issue is this is a pve game
willow plover
I do not agree that the only change needed is a shorter cd that doesnt make sense its a literal shit of an ability
patent forum
Warrior gets buffed and is good and you guys are still crying
green wharf
immunity to roots and slows for like 3s should be an avatar backed thing
jovial torrent
honestly warriors should have a passive where any root with a duration of less than 2 seconds shouldnt apply to them
green wharf
Warrior gets buffed and is good and you guys are still crying
when frost mages and evokers exist i will never stop
willow plover
You forgot BM hunters
boreal veldt
wish war banner was worn on our back instead of a totem
if only they had an ability that did that they could go off of
stark agate
I forgot why I quit dragonflight pvp until I got higher rank in 3s again in tww
Every game is just a R1 leveling their alt friends R1 characters
rancid granite
damn i wish that was me fighting r1's
what better way to improve
record your match and dissect it
stark agate
Except I want to rank up
rancid granite
big brain learning
rancid granite
yeah everyone wants wins and easy matches but thats boring
fierce elm
rank up by becoming better
rancid granite
and what better way to get better than to play with the pros
rancid granite
well if you focus on getting better and not winning points
then you will be winning every game
stark agate
yeah I get that wisdom
rancid granite
stark agate
Despite that it's agitating
rancid granite
inevitable lol
just direct it at yourself not them
words of wisdom from me
i've meditated on many losses
stark agate
Think ill just go work out instead
rancid granite
that being said i've finally got full t3 enchants full gems/sockets on both my mains
i am broke
boreal veldt
Think ill just go work out instead
west jasper
Except I want to rank up
playing against better players is how u rank up
its actually such a priveledge to play against strong opponents
in other games like street fighter you have to proove yourself strong enough by climbing through endless ranks of other mediocre players
green wharf
well, kinda depends, if the opponent i too high you will not learn anything
west jasper
u will still learn it will just hurt more
rancid granite
in other games like street fighter you have to proove yourself strong enough by ...
dont they have a thing money-matching
basically pay/bet skilled bros to play with you
lol
west jasper
ya if u put up enough money theyll play u
otherwise you have to enter a tournament and do well in brackets or be lucky enough to play them first round
sharp meteor
well, kinda depends, if the opponent i too high you will not learn anything
i mean if ur doing something that you aren't sure about
and queue into somebody who breaks your skull in for it
decent chance you learn from that
although if you just want rewards and are pressing q then w/e
green wharf
decent chance you learn from that
sometimes yeah, but if your get melted down by an evoker, maybe not your fault entirelly
green wharf
My WW monk BGB luck is insane
prepare your ass for 7 losses in a row
lavish quest
U right
rancid granite
it's a lot better than it was at least =p
boreal veldt
as arms the only reason i have 35% exe talent is to get to the extra 2% crit
dead button on colossus
shut tangle
hey guys whats the best comp to climb with now
tsg, turbo, ret war?
I saw some mage heals war comps
whats the opinion on that
hasty pulsar
If you are in a solo shuffle lobby against a devastation evoker and shadow priest which would be the better kill target.. that evoker did a lot of damage…
hasty pulsar
Yeah dude..
I was able to actually chase him decently, but when I wasn’t actually chasing him he hurt my team very bad
boreal veldt
I was able to actually chase him decently, but when I wasn’t actually chasing hi...
damned if you do damned if you don't, you'll get yapped at regardless for either swapping or low dps due to chasing
a tale as old as time
i nearly wept earlier when a priest gripped me into melee range of a voker
a saint he was
hasty pulsar
Yeah just had a lot of trouble in that match
green wharf
i nearly wept earlier when a priest gripped me into melee range of a voker
when the DK pull you over so you can cleave the healer 
boreal veldt
cosmic vapor
green wharf
How does one play this many games
i guess being a filthy rogue helps with it
warm pollen
if i queue blitz as a tank will it guarantee there is also a tank on the opposite team?
also is it the same map pool when i queue tank or only flag/base ones?
urban skiff
any maps
warm pollen
ok
urban skiff
i've seen bdk in silvershard
warm pollen
i feel like on some maps tanks have high carry potential like Eye of the Storm
should be interesting to try it out more
urban skiff
EotS a lot of classes have really high carry potential
like shaman is amazing for EotS
stark agate
Would you guys go Fury or Arms in a ret/disc comp? Or does it not really matter too much in this instance?
deft wharf
I'd go fury but that's because of my neverending hatred of arms from wod forward
boreal veldt
Would you guys go Fury or Arms in a ret/disc comp? Or does it not really matter ...
w/e spec you feel better in imo
lusty talon
Fury is vers/mastery right?
green wharf
Fury is vers/mastery right?
yes, but its good to have a bit of haste as well
green wharf
seems like yall prot players only want to play at this hour
cant have a single game without a damn tank
spice hornet
Haven’t seen a tank shuffle since like df s2
willow plover
Apparently in DK discord they are plotting to make everyone blood dks now cause they think their other specs are useless, i had a blood dk like every 4th game last night
willow plover
Yeah weirdly i have not seen a single unholy this last week
green wharf
disarm those BMs
all my wins against then its pure focus and disarm
i notice the tclap slow helped with the pets as well
there is a talent that make tclap hit a second time if it gets more than 3 targets
willow plover
When do u disarm a bm hunter?
spice hornet
green wharf
When do u disarm a bm hunter?
when he burst
the target do less damage disarmed regarldess, i think it affect the pets too
chilly pivot
They need to nerf bm abit
willow plover
What clases counter bm hunter and frost mage?
chilly pivot
What clases counter bm hunter and frost mage?
Warriors, we kill them so ez
Was free 200 rating yesterday facing mages and bm
willow plover
yeah sure
u gain 300
i lose 300
I cannot win a single shuffle unless i maintain 800k dps
thick reef
dense herald
the target do less damage disarmed regarldess, i think it affect the pets too <:...
it doesnt matter much if u disarm bm
only matters to get their barbed shot stacks
cuz they wont be able to use barbed shot and they lose the buff
cinder thorn
if i queue blitz as a tank will it guarantee there is also a tank on the opposit...
no, im fairly sure I queued as tank and got put with other dps
unless you are Paladin, paladin tanks get pitted against each other
cinder thorn
Warriors, we kill them so ez
that fury or arms
lavish quest
Warriors, we kill them so ez
green wharf
i see a warrior in the lobby i thank for the free win 
tight rain
I'm having nostalgia for warrior in MoP:
Charge stun, op second wind, Intervene on banners to remove roots, MS giving rage, Slam doing good damage and being our rage spender, defensive stance only reducing our rage generation, dbts AND shield wall, CS on 20sec CD and proc to reset.
Good old times, feels like we still have less of everything than then
lavish quest
Aren't you a 1600 player tho
lavish quest
Ye, just send me big money. I gotchu
lavish quest
We call it a business opportunity round these parts
fierce elm
some dude in tradechat wanted 2.2 million for it lmao
lavish quest
Gotta get the new bronto somehow
fierce elm
Solo shuffle main now that Kargish has abandoned me again
wheat jay
some dude in tradechat wanted 2.2 million for it lmao
Huh
You can't get it on eu, can you?
fierce elm
from a citizen in the US
wheat jay
@elfin surge
fierce elm
tryna convince scoobz to buy mountain dew daily
willow plover
insta lose
wheat jay
tryna convince scoobz to buy mountain dew daily
apparently you need to proper NA NA dude
and cant get it like that
fierce elm
I mean you need NA phone number and adress
wheat jay
dont you need na account too?
fierce elm
no
You do all the steps and you get a code you redeem in bnet
that code can be redeemed in EU
wheat jay
mhmmm
green wharf
thankfully the green one you can get ingame later
wheat jay
yep
winged quest
yes but red goes faster
lavish quest
that code can be redeemed in EU
Brilliant they didn't think of that
Don't be weak
Don't be Artji
fierce elm
lmao
The daily quit
Imagine being tilted over pixels on a screen that has no impact on your real life
lavish quest
Wow is my real life tho
fierce elm
Wow is my real life tho
thats sad
lavish quest
Welcome to the American dream
verbal tangle
Skill issue
willow plover
Skill issue
Who asked you anything? dont ping me
copper fox
LOL
fierce elm
Its 13:50 rn and so angry
verbal tangle
Who asked you anything? dont ping me
Mad cuz bad
fierce elm
that cant be good for your blood pressure my guy
copper fox
Yea it way too early to be angry
willow plover
Mad cuz bad
Show us your stats
willow plover
https://seramate.com/us/Aegwynn/Getthechoppa
Bro you legit have no voice
copper fox
I respect the man for throwing his char out there tbh most would fold
willow plover
I respect him less cause now he show that he is just low iq troll
copper fox
Speaking of troll
I thought I was the highest rated troll in 3s after I qd last night but then saw Rend has a troll
So now I’m pissed
So I have to lower my expectations and just be the highest rated fury troll
I gap the shit out of the second in 3s, ss and bgb
verbal tangle
Bro you legit have no voice
Post numbers
copper fox
Huge goals
verbal tangle
Show me you ain't no bitch
willow plover
Post numbers
verbal tangle
duelist in meme bracket
Damn
Bro I don't play 3s, fuck you mean
Also you are the babyback bitch crying about quitting
lavish quest
Its 13:50 rn and so angry
It's 8:00 thank you
copper fox
@lavish quest yes finally someone else in the real time zone
lavish quest
copper fox
If you have a small win streak in ss you don’t even need to go positive to get + rating
You just need a streak
lol
I went 4-8 yesterday and was + 40 something
lavish quest
I'm proudly 1800 as fury. Fight me
copper fox
But obviously if I don’t fix that I’m fkd
lavish quest
Only done like maybe 80 rounds tho
copper fox
I took a ss break to push bgb
lavish quest
60% winrate tho 😉
lavish quest
Bgb can suck my d ick tbh
verbal tangle
Honestly the hardest part of bgb is the 7 other tards
lavish quest
It's random bgs with a changed ruleset and a number that tells people your luck level
fierce elm
yall fighting over RATING
lavish quest
Not to mention the can't see the enemy bug that happens in there all the time
opaque sleet
Hi guys, is slayer or colossus easier to play?
lavish quest
yall fighting over RATING
Yall fight over Britain
lavish quest
Hi guys, is slayer or colossus easier to play?
Slayer
fierce elm
hell no
opaque sleet
Cool
copper fox
Hey
fierce elm
now hardstuck 2100
fierce elm
Pre-S tier
urban skiff
Remove ratings. Use only MMR
lavish quest
Mmr would be the rating then
fierce elm
Technically ELO in games have hidden MMR
smh
Source: have played league since s2 and am depressed
lavish quest
Source: have played league since s2 and am depressed
urban skiff
Technically ELO in games have hidden MMR
ELO is a chess thing and doesn't need to hide your MMR. You just have a rating and that's it
urban skiff
Elo rating
fierce elm
nerd
fierce elm
nerd
hasty pulsar
how many wins should i get if i go against a frost mage/evoker/bm in a solo shuffle
urban skiff
It's cold outside. I don't want to go out right now
fierce elm
about 0-6
urban skiff
It's dark when I get to work, and dark when I leave work
It's dark when I leave. Bright when I arrive at work. Then bright when I leave for home and dark when I get there.
At least I have a lot of work outdoor. Supervising
urban skiff
I used to work in an iron foundry. Now those were some dark days. Walls were black outside the machine shop. Like soot black. Windows covered with soot even in the shop.
lavish quest
I have a chassis shop right outside my office. That count?
copper fox
It's dark when I get to work, and dark when I leave work
Same
And it’s 40 degrees when I get to work and 80 degrees when I leave because NJ is wild
lavish quest
Basically Detroit here.
Temp differences don't seem that big, at least I don't notice
lavish quest
You're in EU, no wonder
fierce elm
like aint no way yall hardstuck at like 1800-2.2k
lavish quest
Does it count if I don't queue?
fierce elm
Literally getting free rating just for queueing kek
fierce elm
got two 5 minute queues in a row
copper fox
Yea I just need to sit down and q and I’ll climb, I just do 1-2 games and call it because q time
copper fox
I did that s1 DF
fierce elm
its aight I guess
lavish quest
I'm just bustin
fierce elm
Just waiting for them to give glad mounts to solo shuffle tbh
verbal tangle
And especially not if Trump wins (the spergout will be real)
fierce elm
3s is clearly going to be the dead mode
lavish quest
And especially not if Trump wins (the spergout will be real)
Huh?
fierce elm
especially with how easy it is to get rating in SS
verbal tangle
Yeah, we might see Shuffle or BGB get glad mount
copper fox
I’m 100% pushing warrior this season. Fury feels good in ss
lavish quest
Glad mount should have never been 3s specific tbh
verbal tangle
2 hr maintenance
fierce elm
As soon as they introduced solo shuffle they should have given it a ton of rewards
verbal tangle
Locking down the servers before election lmao
lavish quest
Locking down the servers before election lmao
Next they'll turn the fricken frogs gei
fierce elm
Each bracket having a reskinned glad mount sounds fun tbh
verbal tangle
Next they'll turn the fricken frogs gei
I mean have you seen Alleria's TWW appearance? They already did
lavish quest
Just give the glad mount. And tell all the 3s QQers to suck my sack
fierce elm
BGB and RBGs having the same
Because lets be real, if you can hit glad in 3s you can hit glad in 2s and SS
lavish quest
I mean have you seen Alleria's TWW appearance? They already did
What's that gotta do with the frogs? 👀
copper fox
Because lets be real, if you can hit glad in 3s you can hit glad in 2s and SS
Agreed
They do it for pve
It’s not hard coding lol
verbal tangle
What's that gotta do with the frogs? 👀
The frogs are next
lavish quest
Put glad mount into all the brackets. Remove and retroactively fix the fomo rewards of pvp. #makepvpgreatagain
Oh, and remove mages, can't forget that one
opaque sleet
stupid question, does anyone know if symbiosis embellisment will break you out of cc
copper fox
Well I think each type of bracket should have a reward of its own
I guess the title is that tho
Legend whack compared to gladiator so it’s fine lol
copper fox
Yea that’s why I mentioned title being fine after I said that lol
zinc tartan
does anybody have experience with omnibar?
lavish quest
Yes...?
copper fox
That’s a crazy question to ask to then just disappear
Anyone here have experience pressing w?
copper fox
Lmfao
lavish quest
Anyone have experience in getting bitches?
rancid granite
@fierce elm @elfin surge
fierce elm
lmao
rancid granite
that makes him mysterious and attractive
the chicks need to know more, they need to know why
they fight for his eye contact
lavish quest
Mud only got rizz on stream, and he can't stream longer than 2 days in a row before needing to go on hiatus
rancid granite
that makes him elusive and mysterious as well
be buff like warrior, sneaky and sly like rogue
urban skiff
EU 2.1k = NA 1200
what is 1381 eu then in US?
urban skiff
Anyone have experience in getting bitches?
i have experience in getting my wife
lavish quest
Boys, give me your judgments.
I was set up on a blind date with a chick, then the next week, I went to this swing dancing thing with her since it was walking distance from me just to hang. I don't really dance so... I met her friends and would be on the sidelines watching. Sometimes standing with her friends, sometimes standing alone. When standing alone a random girl and her friend came and chatted me up. Her friend left minutes into conversation.
I've been told I was "curbing" women. The blind date girl in particular. This tru? I was just not being rude and talking as well since I was standing their solo anyways 😂
urban skiff
what does curbing even mean?
lavish quest
From my understanding, like denying. Rejecting. 😂
rancid granite
wouldn't it be the opposite though
blind date girl curbed you by going to dance when you didn't want to?
urban skiff
eh, don't worry about it. If you being yourself causes a reaction then the chemistry isn't there
If you have to start out from day1 defending your own actions then what's it gonna be like when people get comfortable making demands?
rancid granite
one wants to dance other doesnt, move on 😛
urban skiff
one wants to dance other doesnt, move on 😛
dancers and non-dancers can work
lavish quest
blind date girl curbed you by going to dance when you didn't want to?
I mean, I just don't dance. It was walking distance and I didn't have anything going on so I offered to hang out
urban skiff
but if you're a gamer you have to either find another gamer, or a reader.
that's the true litmus test
rancid granite
dancers and non-dancers can work
sure unless it's taken as curbing them, right? then it's like a 'do what i do or you don't like me' which sounds 👎
kind nymph
Can anybody tell me what is the rotation for this build? Burst and Sustain?
lavish quest
If you have to start out from day1 defending your own actions then what's it gon...
Blind date girl didn't bring it up at all or anything. Just other people's reactions when I described the night lol
urban skiff
sure unless it's taken as curbing them, right? then it's like a 'do what i do or...
doesn't matter. Be yourself and be yourself fiercely
rancid granite
urban skiff
Blind date girl didn't bring it up at all or anything. Just other people's react...
then fuck 'em
If she's nice and she likes you when you're yourself then that's a win
lavish quest
She did come up to me while I was talking to her after some dance ended but didn't say anything.
I would have introduced the two, but ima be honest... I forgot this random girl's name literally minutes into the conversation... 😅
urban skiff
Now the question becomes, is she being herself or is she trying to be the person she thinks you want her to be? Truth is important
rancid granite
mud and afro in here taking notes from zercher with his wholesome big totem energy
lavish quest
Now the question becomes, is she being herself or is she trying to be the person...
No clue. Seems to just be her
I was being me. Aka, quiet when with a lot of people I don't know
urban skiff
Roll with it. See where it goes. Decide early what your soft and hard boundaries are and be ready to cut losses if she doesn't respect them, and put a ring on it if she genuinely likes you when you're yourself.
rancid granite
when's the next date? new atmosphere this time
lavish quest
This swing dancing deal wasn't the date. Our blind date was axe throwing
This was just, she told me about it on the blind date, said she wasn't going to be able to make it. Then the day of said she was going to be able to because getting off work early. So I offered to hang out since really no investment aside from time on my end
urban skiff
After first date, any hanging out is more date
lavish quest
And technically I did have friends I new who went to it every other week, and I did see some of them while I was there
urban skiff
it's good, spend time with her. Get to know her, be comfortable and enjoy life.
rancid granite
axe throwing sounds fun
urban skiff
axe throwing sounds fun
it is until it rebounds and takes off your head
rancid granite
lol
hasty pulsar
6
were you being serious here btw, like should I actually of won all 6 rounds playing optimally.. cuz I did not play great but I found the lobby very difficult
lavish quest
It's fine, she has unique talents with an axe. She managed to stick it with the handle
urban skiff
I'd do bouldering or the new VR first-person-shooter-in-warehouse-thing as a first date
lavish quest
rancid granite
^ when you go all str and no dex
chilly pivot
that fury or arms
Fury ofc
urban skiff
Fury energy
lavish quest
Impressive considering she's tiny
urban skiff
were you being serious here btw, like should I actually of won all 6 rounds play...
I think you did well. 6 is always possible but in this case difficult.
lavish quest
Like 5'2 I think
urban skiff
Impressive considering she's tiny
what does she main?
My wife's a rogue and it shows
dodgy fucker
hasty pulsar
I think you did well. 6 is always possible but in this case difficult.
ok, just getting the draw (3 wins) was hard.. but when I look back I misplayed a lot prob could of gotten 4 wins..
urban skiff
ok, just getting the draw (3 wins) was hard.. but when I look back I misplayed a...
the good news vs that matchup is you always have a good partner
hasty pulsar
yeah true now that you mention it
hasty pulsar
a lot of it was ymy mentality i think i started thinking negative when i saw a bm hunter and a frost mage AND an evoker
i was like shit im going to lose em all
urban skiff
I'll be honest. Last shuffle I kept killing the BM hunter's pets
I was just kind of annoyed after the first round and decided permanent disarm sounded fun
urban skiff
I think shaman damage vs hunter pets is bugged. they died stupid fast
hasty pulsar
I havent actually done that much..
is that when I am behind a pillar or somethin
just nuke their pets
lavish quest
what does she main?
IRL
urban skiff
I don't think I'll advise warriors to do that. I was doing it for maelstrom stacks and resetting doggos and stuff
hasty pulsar
oh ok i see
rancid granite
a lot of it was ymy mentality i think i started thinking negative when i saw a b...
i vs'd an icemage today who kept icewalling himself from the enemy, and icewalling me, his healer .... point being lots of people aren't the best they can be at their class so don't get pre-tilted lol
lavish quest
hasty pulsar
i vs'd an icemage today who kept icewalling himself from the enemy, and icewalli...
yeah dude, when I look back i pre tilted and then I won 3 when they werent that good and prob could of won 4 or 5!
hasty pulsar
yah vulpera should of gotten druid over zandalari troll tbh
imo at least
would of been first small druid
would of owned
urban skiff
I think they just wanted to show off the zanda troll forms
hasty pulsar
yeah and fair enough
loas and dinos and crap
i get that
mechagnomes should get druid too lol
robo animals
urban skiff
i have a mechagnome uhdk named Robodots
I haven't played it in TWW yet but I imagine it will tilt people immensely
or would if they could see what I'm playing. Gnome so smol
lavish quest
Be a lil feral cub
They already are feral cubs
urban skiff
I asked earlier but nobody really responded. My wife plays sub rogue. I want to duo with her in 2v2 and blitz, so that means I have to give up and play healer for a while. What two healer specs will do reasonably well in both but they have to function well in both places, not just be amazing in one or the other.
hasty pulsar
i dunno maybe go holy paladin