pvp

[dark topaz]

I think it's just for fury

The updated notes still list 10% for arms

[hot solstice]

bt inst strong enough, u just lose faster cdr with more reck uptime

[dark topaz]

Even though they said it'll affect warriors

[cobalt gale]

Ok nice😃

[chilly pivot]

hmm even not with the 20% buff ?

[hot solstice]

my prediction is it will still be more filler than heavyhitter

[chilly pivot]

should i just use BT when everything else is on cd?

[hot solstice]

need see tomorrow

buff just makes bt higher on priority than rb

[chilly pivot]

rb should be higher? its buffing rampage so good

[hot solstice]

and bt procks reap that storm

idk I feel like I am pressing 1 bt and 2 rb between rampages anyway if its not reck window

[chilly pivot]

reap that storm seems so low ?

[hot solstice]

well if u wanna min max as much...still think I am pressing at least 1 bt between rampages

[chilly pivot]

yeah

[hot solstice]

literaly 1st shuffle on this rog...wtf minus mmr for 5-1

like I asked to bring me 1400 ppl

bet I would still get minus 30 for 6-0

[bold yarrow]

shuffle queue 23 min

gd

[old snow]

anyone know what the deal with the blitz queues are at the minute theyre like 15-20 minutes for me

is it because of the kick bug people arent queuing?

(EU)

[lavish quest]

That's a fast one

[jovial torrent]

i been playing a bit of hpal for fun to make use of plate mogs, inc nerf tomorrow

got to 1800 in shuffle pretty ez with instant q, blitz on the other hand is 12 min queues for this shit

[bold yarrow]

domination ya'll

low mmr but i just started solo shuffle

[jovial torrent]

beefy

[bold yarrow]

that was with colossus

i had a 4 mil demolish crit and ended a real life today

[oblique stirrup]

Can someone link me their/meta Colossus arms build , want to give it a go thanks in advance

[bold yarrow]

can we just kill all mages

[jovial torrent]

they need to up pvp wep glow by like 50% already

[worthy fern]

Secret tech: use demolish during a big cast from a warlock or whatever, either they stop the cast and you interrupted it or they sit there and eat the whole thing.

It works cause they don’t freak out until the big slap

[bold yarrow]

im tilted as fuck

right now

1 frost mage just trolling in solo shuffle

13 full self heals 69 blinks 2 ice blocks

insanity

[hybrid socket]

re: hotfix, am I currently hitting people for the intended 15%? Or is it 30% right now

re: arms

MS

[boreal veldt]

15%

man i think they messed up the color palate of the wrath set, it looks washed out

[green wharf]

thats is 7% on top of the 10%, or we just got 7% for fury

thats some bullshit

[cloud meadow]

whats the fastest conq farm on an alt with 0 pvp gear?

[pure hornet]

Weird question..
is there a bug or a exploit ?
I have 2 warrs and when i play the other one i cant seem to loose rating if i loose. Is there a rested rating exploit?
I play 2’s

[jovial torrent]

u could just have really high mmr

compared to ur rating

[pure hornet]

1800 is low rating..
was at 2.1 in df
Something is odd
Maibe afther 3 days not playing .you cant loose rating first few games
Dunno, but just noticed it

[jovial torrent]

df rating doesnt matter

[fierce elm]

Rating is independent to MMR

[jovial torrent]

its ur current rating/mmr diff

[fierce elm]

if you have high MMR you dont lose rating

[green wharf]

[boreal veldt]

[bold yarrow]

mage being able to ice lance for 1.5 million and then teleport back to full hp or ice block back to full hp is totally fine

[bold yarrow]

warrior definitely feels better but i can't help but notice that the pvp gets less fun with every tww patch they put out lol

[sharp meteor]

Fury in this skirm thought the darkglare was the warlock man

[boreal veldt]

LMAO

parsing on the pet

[rancid granite]

just win more

[bold yarrow]

3.5 million execute

[fallen estuary]

Saltwater moment

[green wharf]

these entittled twats

wow is the only game i know most casters dont need to cast, and suppoed frail classes tank more than the heavy armored plate users

they took the glass canon concept and made it titanium canon

[willow plover]

Funny how mages literally never was bad and they complain

[chilly pivot]

arms seems much stronger then fury in pvp atm

[green wharf]

and they didn't even got nerfed

im seeing the notes from today patch

[boreal veldt]

did they fix fury's offhand exe bug?

[green wharf]

mages are not even mentioned

[chilly pivot]

was not a bug, will be like that

[boreal veldt]

oof

[willow plover]

Much better?

[chilly pivot]

yup

[fast tree]

demolish still or slayer?

[jovial torrent]

problem is atm they make some decent changes but then like 2 specs get a 500 word rework and come out of the gate bugged

[chilly pivot]

slayer

[bold yarrow]

They didn’t change demolish damage just ms and colossal smash right?

[stiff storm]

is the buff to culling cyclonee--10% to 20%, live now?

[boreal veldt]

the 1st 2 strikes of demo got 15% buff

what they call the single target part of demolish

roughly 190-230k more damage between the 2 hits

[green wharf]

big fighting happening the flag, me and another DH blasting people up

"warlock uses fear on the people we were hitting"

wHy nO oNe CapPeD

[runic crypt]

Anyone know how to disable the arena frames on battleground enemies

[slender rock]

Anyone ever play arms aff hpal? It work alright or would we be fighting a lack of synergy the whole time

[hot solstice]

better go sp or ele

but can work

u simply win by surviving

but its harder cause less utility than sp and ele

[slender rock]

I’m historically an arms player but I fuckin suck at SP so would swap if it’s decent but if SP is that much better I probably just tough it out a little longer before I commit to a swap.

[green wharf]

yep, patch officially doomed

i lost more with the buffs than without then

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-dog-tearing-up-dog-gif-15461765574925226779

[green wharf]

bring back yesterday

nevermind we back

this is what it feels like to have heals

feels nice

i noticed slayers strike is actually doing good damage, the rest feels the same or worse

@ yall, should i get the conquest trinket first or the shoulders?

im using the blood token shoulders and honor trinket

[fierce elm]

do not get trinkets

trinkets are last

even if you have bloody token

[green wharf]

rly

[fierce elm]

yeah

[green wharf]

i though you got more str if you get the conquest trinket

[fierce elm]

I would just get the shoulders because overall more stats rather than some strength increase

thats me personally

don't think it will matter much at this point

[green wharf]

100armor, 70 str, some secondary for the shoulders

trinket would get me 760 str

[fierce elm]

I like the shoulders

you won't convince me otherwise

also rip Traders Tenders this month jesus christ

[green wharf]

only going to get varian armor and sword

cause armor is good for orc zug zug

[deep condor]

Varian armor??!

[green wharf]

and the sword just look cool

[green wharf]

the logosh armor

[fierce elm]

You can transmog other plate class sets in trading post now

so yeah

there is some wild shit in there rn

[deep condor]

It's in there now?

[chilly magnet]

I got trinket and i wouldn't have done it Any other way

[worldly hemlock]

builds change from buffs are same shit?

[deep condor]

Isn't it still oct

[fierce elm]

1st november

[deep condor]

Ah

[chilly magnet]

Main stat is very strong

[fierce elm]

But you can transmog any class trading post set that matches your armor type now

[deep condor]

Oh nice

[fierce elm]

So need warrior+dk+paladin and Varian set along with warrior+dk+paladin weapons lmao

and one of those hoods with the mask

so rip tenders

[green wharf]

there is a red version as well

[deep condor]

Oh that's pretty sick

[green wharf]

just trade the chest piece for orgrimmar grunt

shoulders for manoroth tusks

you have Garrosh set

[fierce elm]

There is some wild shit next week

T2s, Trading post being absolutely fire

[chilly magnet]

What's the plate with the skull on the shoulder

[fierce elm]

along with the mask from halloween event

[deep condor]

I'm close to T2

[green wharf]

yall better be rocking fury like this next month

[fierce elm]

you can get 3 next week

so you are fine lmao

[deep condor]

Everyone going judge and I'm going wrath first

[fierce elm]

Numbers right now are 150 bronze next week

Without the dailies calculated

[worldly hemlock]

i just got t2

looks amazing

[fierce elm]

so you can with just the 150 bronze next week get 4 t2 sets

[rancid granite]

paladin legit

[worldly hemlock]

ive been fighting what weapon to use

[rancid granite]

warrior t2 sooooo damn ugly 😔

[fierce elm]

I love the warrior t2

But Paladin is just the clear winner

[green wharf]

you watch your words young man

[fierce elm]

also Sylvanas armor

[deep condor]

I'm KT and it looks soooo right on him

[rancid granite]

@ warrior t2 set

[fierce elm]

its an expensive tender month

[green wharf]

and we have the perfect weapon to match

[worldly hemlock]

which is that

[fierce elm]

PvP arms artifact appearance from legion

[green wharf]

this coming next month too

bit bland, but ok

[worldly hemlock]

so is arms the play over fury now or no? just curious

[rancid granite]

whatever you like more

skillcapped thinks we're A+ again :)

[worldly hemlock]

nice, i mainly play blitz as fury but been thinking about climbing as arms, feel like ms would be a bigger utility

[lucid walrus]

worth throwing up reflect here so they don't just coil you

[green wharf]

anyone second opinions?

[green wharf]

that feels so bad omg

[lucid walrus]

afro is right

trinkets come last

[green wharf]

even with the blood token gear

ok

i assumed he was right cause he supposed have an afro

so his opinions means more

[lucid walrus]

this is true

fella knows his stuff

[stiff storm]

are the buffs live in NA? my tooltip still shows only 20% for culling cyclone for slayer

[bold yarrow]

yes live no didnt help enuf

[stiff storm]

wonder why the tooltip only shows 10 for me maybe i need to relog

[rancid granite]

yes live and yes the buffs are awesome

[green wharf]

only buff i noticed was in layer strike

is hitting good

others clases got buffed so you don't even notice

shit ass priests and evokers still immortal without casting shit

[green wharf]

it was just 20% though

10% to 20%

[stiff storm]

wonder if Brutal Finish is better? i feel like the rampages can take people by surprise after a bladestorm. ive been using Brutal Finish instead of Culling Cyclone

[bold yarrow]

this is the main problem. It doesn't matter if I do 500k more dmg if my defensive is the same and other classes got stronker

[green wharf]

i only use that as well

cause bladestorms in bg feeels like doen't do any damage

[rancid granite]

warrior gets buffs and still hatin'

[urban nacelle]

Honestly with the buffs its simple. Get good.

[green wharf]

[bold yarrow]

1v1 me, orgrimmar, 9pm

[green wharf]

you got accept the challenge now bro

[urban nacelle]

stomping a 1500 guy who complains about class instead of improving is just bullying

[green wharf]

you would be helping him improve

like a senior sparing with his junior

[urban nacelle]

No, helping him is reminding him that he needs to focus on playing better with what the class has.

His post history is pure womp womp class bad.

[green wharf]

but class bad too though

[urban nacelle]

Then reroll enh shammy kek

[green wharf]

Zercher did

[bold yarrow]

pearnut rejects the challenge because he doesn't want his cheeks split by a guy with 1 month of pvp exp

solid decision can't blame

[urban nacelle]

Dude literally get up, wash your face and look in the mirror. Tell yourself the truth.

[bold yarrow]

wash my face? and waste your mother's fluids? no thank you

[urban nacelle]

"I have spent the last month crying everyday to strangers on the internet about my class, WARRIOR, sucking. For sympathy."

then sit back down and q and you will climb

its that easy.

[bold yarrow]

I haven't even been in the server for a week

got me confused for one of these other enhancement shamans

[urban nacelle]

go do it

[fickle forge]

Beef is def the #1 whiner here atm

[bold yarrow]

can you check pvp link ur main so i can learn a few things?

only if you aren't on pussi

[urban nacelle]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Nagrand/Furiousrage

idc

even my green wep alt i hit 80 with 2 days ago is better than you

[bold yarrow]

oh so you aren't doing well either got it

[urban nacelle]

because im not a whining main

lol?

[bold yarrow]

seems like you like to oil yourself up before launching criticism with copes like "not my main"

[urban nacelle]

did you even click?

[bold yarrow]

I have been consistent with "me suck" and "class suck"

[fickle forge]

🍿

[urban nacelle]

I believe I suck > warrior sucks

thats a fact actually I do suck

[bold yarrow]

i bet you love your feral druid

[urban nacelle]

I dont even have a druid?

😂

[worldly hemlock]

I'm not great but damn skirm weekly is painful as fury

[green wharf]

shuffle and skirmishes are only a real problem with mages and evokers for me

sometimes you get a spriest that melt you down out of nowhere

[worldly hemlock]

I'll try that

Thanks

[celest pike]

Yooo NA-Fam, how are we doing?? Warrior back?

[rancid granite]

we're like A tier now

[bold yarrow]

i would agree with A tier as long as there are no mages nearby

[jovial torrent]

wow leaving is actually bs, won first 2 rounds , enemy leaves so i gain only 7 rating

[bold yarrow]

yeah nothing like waiting 20 min for a queue and having a good game then someone bails and you get nothing from it

[ruby temple]

Is collosus arms cracked. almost got one shot by an arms demolish earlier tonight.

[worldly hemlock]

How bad will it be if I try arms in my mastery based fury gear?

[echo aspen]

lmao they legit nerfed our buffs......the memes are writing themselves at this point

[slender rock]

Really big MS crits lol

I don’t think it would be way worse just rage gen might be a little stinkier with low crit

[fickle forge]

It's pretty good yeah

[fickle forge]

0% haste arms is abysmal

[rancid granite]

ah the ol SLAM build

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/raingump-kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-gif-26528408

[rancid granite]

0% haste arms what else you gonna do

[kind sandal]

I thought arms wanted 4pc and every other slot mastery?

[green wharf]

without haste you dont proc slayer strike

and you take ages to finish demolish

[jovial torrent]

i see why healer q is so bad lol, legit every game someone gets themselved deleted by hopping around pillars i get hit with the flame

[bold yarrow]

1610 on arms warrior, 2nd day of playing solo shuffle

only faced a dozen mages

[green wharf]

goat

[bold yarrow]

this ain't no fury vacation

its pure big crits

[green wharf]

i got both 1600 too after comign back from the warlock

almost got 1800 but the disconnect bug fucked me over

[bold yarrow]

the solo queue is abysmal though idk how much i like it

[jovial torrent]

pikaboo playing arms atm demolish, losing his mind to everyone just bopping feigning dispersing ect it

[bold yarrow]

worldofpvp said warrior was op?

how could it be that a streamer is having issues playing one

[jovial torrent]

to be fair slayer might actually be good

[boreal veldt]

i pray he gets the soft lock bug against a voker

[strange adder]

What’s the best Warrior specialization for PvP right now?

[wet pollen]

Prot

[green wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-line-anthony-mackie-sam-wilson-falcon-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-gif-21182970

[green wharf]

looking slick yo

gonna be my mog when im pushing pvp as arms

[ruby temple]

Got my 1800 as fury tonight. In an absolute slapper of a last game against an arms/disc priest. Mimimi if you're in here it was a hell of a fight ❤️

[green wharf]

[deep condor]

Soooo close to 1800, still enjoying Colossus a bit more than slayer

[green wharf]

i think i survive more with slayer

the healing from the sudden death proc feels so much better

[kind sandal]

Who can I look up for a build? I looked up I think the name was magnus couple days ago who was running arms full mastery at the time but I guess mastery ain’t the play anymore.. I got 1800 in 32 rounds of ss so it wasn’t too bad. Just curious what is more optimal

[green wharf]

people look on murlok.io

[kind sandal]

Thank you

[urban skiff]

how much fun are you guys having now?

[urban skiff]

prot or SMF thane

....... huh

what is going on, how did nothing scale with mastery?

[green wharf]

they forgor

[urban skiff]

they forgot to buff prot

[hybrid socket]

What's the deal with battleground blitz? I'm pushing 2100 in the other modes and I'm like 8-19 in BGB, no chance

I can't carry any team fight, I never get heals

[urban skiff]

I started out going 0-15 in BGB and still hit rank 34 couple of games after getting my first win. Don't overthing blitz. Just play it like a regular BG where the worst slackers and bots are filtered out quickly. It's going to swing wildly both up and down even at high ratings

[willow plover]

Zercher is right just play more games

[hybrid socket]

Fair. Just won. I just got 18 rating for a win at 1380 -_-

Apparently my MRR in blitz is 1180

[urban skiff]

You have no way of knowing what your MMR is. It only shows team MMR and you're playing with people who have roughly the same CR / number of total wins as you

[hybrid socket]

It shows your personal MRR?

[urban skiff]

When it's deeper into the season that can mean you're playing with people who actually tanked their MMR

[hybrid socket]

It's literally a column

[urban skiff]

No, it shows team MMR, which is an average across 8

huh, since when?

[hybrid socket]

It shows your CR and your MRR

Third column to the left from the far right

[urban skiff]

Yeah the MMV

Just found a new picture. I swear that's a new addition

[hybrid socket]

But I have a specific rank

Yeah it does seem new

[urban skiff]

Oh yeah, it was added with the changes to party comp

Is my best bet

My bad, you're right.

[hybrid socket]

Very confusing. My Devastation evoker showed as 2380 MMW on my third game at like... 480 CR

MMV*

And this guy is randomly 1180

Even though I'm higher ranked in everything else

[green wharf]

instead of needing help of 2 people, you need help from 7

statistically, there are more chances of having someone with brain damage on shuffles

[hybrid socket]

Yeah I get that, but I'm 1800+ on other chars

[green wharf]

same as i

[hybrid socket]

I'm just stuck in some weird cycle on one of my chars where I get no rating when I win

And everyone is braindead

[urban skiff]

statistically he's always at an advantage over the opposing team

[hybrid socket]

I'm sure if I brute force through it, it'll be fine

[urban skiff]

They are always 8 completely random people of varying skill. @hybrid socket's team is only 7 random people of varying skill

[green wharf]

got 1800 as MM the other day without much pain

but as warrior, damn is hard

[urban skiff]

warrior is hard

[hybrid socket]

It's very reliant on a healer keeping you alive and you sitting helpful team fights

[urban skiff]

is why I prefer prot and enh

I can do my own shit

[green wharf]

i get more damage, kill more, still lose

[hybrid socket]

I find that a lot of time I just go team fight and die

[urban skiff]

Like go cap LM despite there being 3+ people defending it feels great

[green wharf]

hunter i feel more self sufficient as well

can knock people off, trap then

warriors caN only luck fear and cap

But honestly, does feel good to reflect paladin stun and cap in front of then

[ruby temple]

Got a win tonight against a survival hunter, he went to frost trap my hunter and got the spell reflect on it and then killed his healer

Love spell reflecting hunters traps and putting those dumbasses in time out

[jaunty ruin]

guys, is arms still meh?

[green wharf]

4 consecutive wins, you would think they would put better people with you cause mmr and shit

got a lil shit monk who just stand by the tower doing nothing complaning, as the healer

and a quitter as well

[willow plover]

Anyone who tried war changes what comps do you think is the way to push beyond 2k in 3s?

Still warr + ele?

[green wharf]

4 consecutive losses after 4 wins, everything balanced like its supposed to be

[dense herald]

fear and hope it doesnt break from the wind

[dense herald]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[winter lantern]

do fury and arms share pvp gear? like can I switch between both specs without swapping gear around?

[green wharf]

genuinelly felt like blizz was forcing that hard 50/50, got quitters, people reffusing to do objectives, healers that don't heal

[green wharf]

arms focus more on haste

[urban nacelle]

my other wars shuffle is all on 1 team wtf

[green wharf]

Fury more on mastery

[green wharf]

wat

[urban nacelle]

it kicked us out

[little lava]

why does slam deal same dmg as execute right now

[proper cosmos]

Is arms rocking haste or mastery for PVP? Seeing a mix of both on murlok

[sonic mulch]

what's the consnsus on emb. 2x focusing lens or writhing+symbiosis?

[frigid basin]

Arms need around 10-15% Haste. That's why you see a "mix"

[elfin sinew]

Can't wait to kuk some people after work with freshly un-nerfed arms warrior

The slam though.. is there a space for it now after it's been buffed?

[elfin sinew]

There is a visible difference in damage once you start getting haste, some go full haste, some go somewhat even split between mastery and haste

no haste arms warrior is a turtle really, not recommended

[distant wharf]

is there a macro for defensive stance and enrange? 😄

[boreal veldt]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[green wharf]

boys, thane is actually solid

the cleave is sweet

killed a mage hitting the healer

i just don't know if you still need onslaught+tenderize

[hot solstice]

imagine mage standing on top of his healer

[pure hornet]

So is arms better

Than fury now?

[wraith sluice]

even if PE is better for dmg ... is FE (the leftt one ) maybe better since we get speed and haste ?

[pliant wing]

Bois why does Culling Cyclone still say it does 10% more dmg? what happen

[proper cosmos]

@frigid basin and then 0 gear for crit?

[urban skiff]

Called it. Literally

Accidentally taking out adjacent people as thane. Specifically called that before season start

[green wharf]

but whats the build? feel kinda clunky still

i guess look at the tree and still want to make odyn's fury work somehow

but i heard is giga nerfed in pvp

[green wharf]

when i see some people in murlok as thane, i go to see their profile

and they are slayer

[hot solstice]

showing 20% on blitz

[urban skiff]

Pvp tooltips and stats show up in pvp only.

Go hit a dummy or enter skirmish

[frigid basin]

Yep. Gear is usually Mastery/Haste (I know it's quite different in PvE)

[frigid basin]

I'm running this build and I really like it. Specially that I don't have to use Hamstring anymore: CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAaYMzghhBjZMjFYwYGMjZmZzMjZmZhZGmZMzwGmZmZmBAAACzMLbjN2ssYmGzMDTmNGLGLA

You just have to remember to use thunder clap every 4 skills to activate the cleave from the talents

[strange adder]

Good morning, could someone send me an Arms build for PvP?

[green wharf]

actually very similar to mine

the only difference is that i took the swift strikes

intead of the crit

[frigid basin]

I've tried both iterations and I couldn't really tell the difference. You?

[hot solstice]

it doesnt show on dummy somehow...same as dummy doesnt recognize new slam modifier...blizard at finest...u cant primordial wave pvp dummy on shaman since df

[echo aspen]

you really feel the bloodthirst damage on thane now lmao

[frigid basin]

wow

were you hitting a <35% HP dummy with 2/2 Vicious contempt talent or what?

mine doesn't hit that hard xD

[echo aspen]

yea i run vicious

[willow plover]

has to have been buffed in pvp too no? since its half in pvp did it do 5% before and now 10% ?

[celest pike]

Question for the boys (Fury):

1. Change 639 Chest (Crit+Haste) to 639 Chest (Vers+Mastery)
2. Upgrade 626 Neck to 639 (both Vers+Mastery)

[green wharf]

i think this time it was better with crits, cleave was hard

even killed a invisible mage in the flag

still lost cause people don't know how to open the map

[strange adder]

Good morning, could someone send me an Arms build for PvP?

[last leaf]

murlok.io

[frigid basin]

do you mind sharing your build? I wanna see what I could cut to put 2 points into contempt xD

[green wharf]

i also run the double stormbolt talent

in teamfights is slick as f

[frigid basin]

Thanks

[wet pollen]

Why no 45sec roar?

[urban skiff]

Huh? I used pee wave on the dummy recently.

And dummy not recognizing new slam? That sounds really weird bro

[lavish quest]

Wtf is this ignore pain?

[wet pollen]

Ignore scratch?

[fickle forge]

Ignore emotional damage?

[wet pollen]

For real tho is it even worth the rage spent at that point?

[fierce elm]

unbind ignore pain

see how it goes

kek

[tight rain]

I have a question about Slam and is not trolling, since the PvP modifier is 1.85 the 40% base buff is good enough now to press it for dmg and not only to kill tótems? I'm still at work and can't test anything 😦

[urban skiff]

Does ignore pain prevent more damage than you could have done with the same rage?

Does ignore pain get used as a global or only outside globals?

Everything you do should be about increasing the gap between the healing it takes to keep you alive and the healing it takes to keep them alive.

[open glacier]

dude what the fuck is that blinking bullshit that some players do

ferals specially

its SO annoying

[fierce elm]

can you expand on your words

[open glacier]

the lag that casually all ferals have

[urban skiff]

It's their movement speed exceeding the prediction frequency.

[open glacier]

or some players about to die, they start lagging, teleporting everywhere

[urban skiff]

Game predicts where you can go between each location refresh. Ms is so high it can't keep up.

[lavish quest]

Tempted to bug report it and just say "Surely this can't be intentional."

[open glacier]

their MS?

so its better to play with wifi to increase the goddam MS and be untouchable when I run? FFS

[green wharf]

hey i got one disc priest doing that

[buoyant chasm]

How fury feel after buffs guys?

[green wharf]

after the "lag" he was fully healed

[green wharf]

better

execute still feels poo

but thats just me

[urban skiff]

Movement speed. Not ms

[open glacier]

ahh makes sense

still bullshit

[urban skiff]

Or it's people who can increase latency at will specifically to be harder to touch

Idk about that

[green wharf]

why precog is still not nerfed

its some bs gem

[fickle forge]

Just don't miss kick dumbo

[green wharf]

would be fine if it was just me

[urban nacelle]

feels great

1.4m execute

[open glacier]

smashed a hpally in skirmishes

xd

[buoyant chasm]

Niceeeeee, I don’t want to play arms

[cobalt gale]

Yea arms is op

[ebon shale]

Fury feels way weaker tbh

Sat in solo shuff yesterday on a MM hunter and he just ignored my damage tbh

[fickle forge]

@fierce elm Say the line bro

How many samples we got?

[fierce elm]

SO MANY DUDE

ARMS IS OP

FURY IS WEAKER

SMASHED THIS DUDE IN A SKIRMISH LMAO ROLLED

WE GOT THAT 16 HOUR SAMPLE SIZE BABY

[frigid basin]

I'm sold on Vicious. With the recent buffs and all the modifiers it's really nice.

[green wharf]

Yep, its confirmed guys

you were wrong

[hot solstice]

guess arms beats fury

[thick reef]

Arms feels so good rn, can finally stop playing kaka fury

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-frodo-run-gif-12983861

[hot solstice]

did they make thunder clap glyph work for arms aswell?

[scarlet barn]

Just admit you dont have strenght to carry two weapons

WE understand

[hot solstice]

so thats why ppl wibing for smf

[copper fox]

Considering it was literally buffed that’s impossible. User error tbh

[hot solstice]

wtf u can craft insignia and use it with conquest one?

2 639 insignias?

[green wharf]

me this expansion

yo, bloodthrist build is solid

im diggin it

[bold yarrow]

mortal strike is life now

double overpower + ms crit with avatar and cs up

bind it to the delete key

[lavish quest]

Blitz queue taking over 15 mins. Arms is F-tier, it's joever

Not to mention

[green wharf]

man, sometimes bgs are disheartening, you say at the start 2/3 stay at lh to defend, cuz they have two rogues

no one stay there

the whole game

[rancid granite]

stream sniping you; they don't want to play vs an arms warrior. we're so back

[green wharf]

they cap 3 bases and won in like 3 minutes

cool cause i don't waste more time on it

[rancid granite]

yeah meanwhile they're like 'this guy is bossy telling us to defend and wont defend himself'

[near inlet]

is this still up to date?

[green wharf]

no one said shit the entire game, dunno if they didn't speak english or were just ashamed

after that disconnect my mmr went to shit, cannot even get to 1700 anymore, get 1690-ish and 5 loses in a row

at least having fun with thane

[oblique stirrup]

Guys I'm new to pvp, is it worth using any pve gear for pvp ? Like I'm unsure if having tier is worth it

[green wharf]

no

[ebon shale]

Prob all chat banned like me for thinking ima lead em to the promise land above 1800 mmr

[green wharf]

i was chat banned or they?

[rancid granite]

yeah thats the only thing i hate lmao the complete mutes

[ebon shale]

They are

I can’t even ping when chat banned, lol

[green wharf]

well tbf the leader said this once

im still trying to figure out what he meant

[ebon shale]

Report him for trying

Let he get chat banned too

[lavish quest]

20 min queue for half my team to stand around and afk

Why does anyone queue this shitty mode?

I'm the only one to have capped a base (2) on my team (literally), top dmg, one of the few actually playing.

Only so much I can do

[green wharf]

i think lol and dota create some kind of folks, that if they are not going ranked they are not playing

these shooters as well

[lavish quest]

Blitz is ranked

[green wharf]

like, why would you join ranked and not try to win

[green wharf]

exactly, they think they have to quee for the ranked

they could be chilling in random, but no

[lavish quest]

There were certainly chillin, when I say AFK, I mean it literally

After they stucked in first team fight, half give up insta

[rancid granite]

the quick giving up mental

they queue in shaking, somebody sneezes, "gg its joever already i knew it i hate myself i hate this game i hate pvp"

then they q up again

[lavish quest]

Then after team fight, me and 2 others with to LH and I just capped it in 4 of their teams' faces

But couldn't hold it since half of team afk at mine

[green wharf]

today i genuinely got mad, cause it was me and a priet going to cap BS

i rush past the flag, cause priest was capping, to slow then down, landed a perfect shockwave on 2 fuckers

thinking it was enough time for the priest to cap

i turn camera, he was literally on my side

and the flag was not capped

we won btw, but no one capped bs the entire game

is this a bot thing or something

[lavish quest]

I think blitz and random bgs are the same except the rules set change and one has a luck indicator

Crazy

[rancid granite]

they're just chinese bro

[cinder thorn]

what rating do I get weapons? and also which mode is it solo blitz or arena or either

[rancid granite]

'what are these coding symbols? are they hacking?'

[green wharf]

no, they were speaking english normally

[green wharf]

you get conquest weapon when you get 2500 conquest

[cinder thorn]

thx @green wharf

[urban skiff]

fuck yes another skillcapped tier list

I can't wait

[copper fox]

LINK IT

I’m drinking a ghost right now just for pure survival

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/xDtY6GSBUOo

LMAO

enh back in b tier instead of wildcard

[copper fox]

You know what

This is like

The first skillcspped tier list I basically agree with this xpac

Pretty accurate imo

[urban skiff]

I mean they put enh below SSS tier so idk what they're drinking

[copper fox]

Enhance shouldn’t even be here it’s too high to be ranked

[urban skiff]

Enh is E tier for Enhancement

[copper fox]

So true

[urban skiff]

but seriously, enh is stupid amounts of fun and will be doing decently in turbo right now

[chilly pivot]

Arms or fury What did u guys pref so far

[copper fox]

I’m pushing fury atm then I’ll be playing more arms but idk I love fury

[chilly pivot]

Did u feel the buff on fury

[copper fox]

Yea I do

[rancid granite]

i want to know what wildcard actually means lol

[deep condor]

What pvp quest is supposed to give 15 bronze tokens? I didn't see any rewards when I picked them up yesterday - but I was pretty tired

[frigid basin]

it means: we don't know so pick it at your risk (it may be good it may not)

[copper fox]

Hold on brüther I took 13 seconds and typed exactly what you asked in here in this wonderful tool called gôøgle

I got you

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bronze-celebration-token-sources-anniversary-event-week-2-massive-bronze-buffs-349343

Not all hero’s wear capes

Some play fury

[deep condor]

But you do

[copper fox]

😎

[deep condor]

Thanks, missed the quest breakdowns yesterday

Thought I read all I needed to lol

[glad pasture]

excuse me, in pvp if i had executioners precision, should i always do 2 executes then mortal strike? or should i just spam execute

[deep condor]

Currently, the tooltip for this quest does not show any Bronze Celebration Tokens, but as we've confirmed a source from Sparks of War, this might just be a bug

So that's why I was confused

[deep condor]

I imagine whatever does more big dam

[urban skiff]

my quest shows bronze

[rancid granite]

ive been asking the same thing lol

[urban skiff]

Because he's a very normal girl

[copper fox]

Lmfao she lost it and I’m all for her losing it. Looks good

[rancid granite]

why would you be all for her losing it

S tier actress S tier movies

remember small soldiers?

[urban skiff]

huh, i thought she was incredibly difficult to work with, on account of having started a super young in a very inappropriate role?

[copper fox]

It’s iconic moments when the “normal” is brought out in these people

That’s why

[copper fox]

Agree

[rancid granite]

'these people'

people are flawed in general be nice 😭

[copper fox]

😩

True

[orchid badge]

how do i get the brawl quest

[deep epoch]

Got 1850 last night in 2s with meme spec mw monk/fury. The kick monk can heal like crazy and 1vs1 stuff lol

I saw a prot war / hpally with 2k mmr. Rekt em. I feel like prot war is bad, anyone here play one in pvp?

[orchid badge]

i play prot 🙂 but mostly in blitz

its fun in shuffle though because im literally unkillable

just lower damage and i suck at arena

[urban skiff]

the warpocalypse has begun

[deep epoch]

People read in too much to buffs/nerfs. play what you’re good at. I’m sticking with Fury no matter what

[urban skiff]

my man

[urban skiff]

enter a brawl

[deep epoch]

What rating?

[orchid badge]

i was 1950 but ive lost 200 pts because of MMR

i win 5 rating and lose 19

[green wharf]

same shit happened to me

[chilly pivot]

If A resto druid cast Cyclone on me with arena123 macro so no target on me, its possble to tack that cast Will land on me ?

[fluid jacinth]

So close to 1800, with the highest rank at 1793.. But then a good slap to the face occurs with a rage quitter and I dropped almost 40 again 😢

[green wharf]

did ranked since yesterday 8pm, finished with -10 mmr from what i starded

[deep epoch]

Ya, win streaks are important. I am at 48 wins 22 losses in 2’s and I wasn’t losing rating when I lost, gain 15 per win. But last night we went 8-8 and I lost -1 rating my last game.

Once your rating catches up with your MMR the grind begins

[urban skiff]

no

[urban skiff]

It's a natural consequence of what they really want:

They want to be able to kite and cc warrior almost indefinitely.

But to do that, warrior damage potential has to go up, so the times they do connect they can still win.

As always it's people who are bad at math who scream the loudest

And the people at blizzard who are bad at math who make decisions.

[hot solstice]

no tokens for weekly pvp quests?

[urban skiff]

yes tokens

go do it

[hot solstice]

cause I seen no in rewards

bug?

[urban skiff]

still do them

[hardy wave]

Arms feels good

[urban skiff]

how good and what stat spread?

[willow plover]

Cant wait to try fury when Im home

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm what spec for turbo?

[fierce elm]

either

I bought a guitar today

so now I got 3

[urban skiff]

noise

nice

nice noise

But which spec is better for low level farmers who just want to stomp and shoot lightning? I kind of want to mix thane with enh

just to annoy people

[willow plover]

Just go fury copy my build ez wins

[hot solstice]

ye ty for fake info

[hasty pulsar]

if you want to go thane you literally cannot go arms anyway..

[urban skiff]

thank you for testing for us

[edgy escarp]

@willow plover where can i find it? 😄

[willow plover]

Murlok.io

[urban skiff]

pretty sure my sparks quest said it awarded bronze tokens this morning

maybe you already did them on an alt

[green wharf]

i did sparks and i got the tokens as well

[urban skiff]

this

[willow plover]

Did anyone test culling Cyclone vs brutal finish for fury ?

[rancid granite]

what kinds

[fierce elm]

Thane enh sounds hilarious tbh

visual alone

[urban skiff]

That's what I thought, plus they're both more tanky than expected

[fierce elm]

Found a cheap ass used Ibanez Gio superstrat body, wanted something to mod and play in E-standard with

Like 250 bucks or something

[rancid granite]

E-standard, never heard of it

but cool lol

[fierce elm]

Sat down to try out a few guitars and loved the neck tbh

since im modding the parts doesnt matter either

just wanted a solid neck and a body I enjoyed

so its this one

Going to mod the fuck out of it

[urban skiff]

starting to sound like a bodybuilder m8

[rancid granite]

a frankenstein build

[fierce elm]

And for like 250 bucks I cant ask for more, played like a beauty too

[rancid granite]

i want to do the same for a strat but like a long/baritone neck set up well for a drop b tuning

[fierce elm]

I mean it played great honestly

[rancid granite]

yeah the price kinda irrelevant really lol

[fierce elm]

Now my Epiphone can rest as a D standard only guitar

[deep condor]

What I said when I met my wife

[fierce elm]

All I knew was that I wanted a superstrat shape

[fierce elm]

Change every electronic part, tuners, maybe change bridge and nut too fuck it

[slow solstice]

i need to clean my instruments when i get back home

[fierce elm]

I know nothing will replace my Epiphone anyways because that shit is mine, but this gets damn close

Saw a Squier Mustang in red for 220 bucks too

[rancid granite]

i mean looks do count for whatever reason, which is a weird concept

[fierce elm]

and a Squier tele for 280

[fierce elm]

Its weird, but I get it, I dont want two identical guitars that do the same thing

Shape, Bridge, pick-ups, just something different. Definitely dont understand the dudes who have 8 different strats

[urban skiff]

What should i play for my next BG3 run?

[rancid granite]

lmao i cant even imagine 8 different guitars

i just have 1 acoustic 1 electric 1 electric bass

[fierce elm]

I got three now, all I am missing is a floyd rose guitar and my holy grail guitar

[rancid granite]

i can imagine some day getting an extra of each for really low tuning thats it

[fierce elm]

thats about it

Floyd rose is most likely going to be explorer or X-shape

and my holy grail guitar is an olympic white Gibson flying V 70s model

But I aint ready to drop 3k on a guitar yet

[rancid granite]

a classic axe

my skills aint good enough to warrant 3k

[fierce elm]

Same

The explorer is probs gonna be a BC rich stealth or similar

Then I am set for guitars until I die in my mind

[rancid granite]

borderline an axe you'd see in WoW

[fierce elm]

Yeah those are sick

Worst case I swap this Ibanez to a floyd rose

BC rich because of Chuck Schuldiner, Gibson Flying V because of James Hetfield lmao

[rancid granite]

i realized thats why i stick to my strat actually

all my favorite musicians/guitarists? strat players

never really put it together til recently

the only anomaly is like stephen carpenters 7/8 string lol

[fierce elm]

Yeah you get mad influenced lmao

Like 4 out of my top 5 guitarists play some sort of weird shape

Then Buckethead plays a Les Paul so a standard shape

[rancid granite]

all i know is theyre all fine as long as they have a headstock

[fierce elm]

In the end its a guitar

and someone way better than me can make a 300 buck guitar sound like a 3k guitar

and I can make a 3k guitar sound like 300 bucks

[rancid granite]

those new guitars i see with no headstock just look goofy as hell no matter who plays them its like 'did you drop it? what happened to it?'

[fierce elm]

I lowkey like them in looks, tried one out and hated it

[fast tree]

So what pumps the most atm with turbo? fury or arms or is it same same

[boreal veldt]

I love the question, has anyone tried arms or fury.

I play arms but... have I truly tried arms?

[urban skiff]

I try not to try hard

Making an effort is first sign of failure in my dumb brain

[hot solstice]

got 15 from blitz quest, nothing from epic bg

[boreal veldt]

Why does this make equal parts sense and nonsense to me

[rancid granite]

did you not get the quest for it it gave me tokens

[hot solstice]

yes finished epic bg quest with no tokens

[rancid granite]

did you already do it on an alt 👀

korrak's revenge right in caverns of time

[hasty pulsar]

i got my tokens for epic bg quest

you prob did it wrong

[ripe solar]

hello, can anyone tell me the state of warrior in pvp? i have played pve so far and its imposible to get invited

[chilly magnet]

I want the unstoppeable force!

[chilly magnet]

Do yourself a favor and reroll to ret or feral druid.

[willow plover]

First shuffle after patch vs boomie, frost mage and arms did not feel good at all

[fierce elm]

reroll ret kekw

[willow plover]

For some reason the game feels extra laggy its like delay when i hit my keys and i have 22ms ping ingame

[boreal veldt]

Ahh yes, come in, come in, welcome to the pvp portion of your warrior class life.

[willow plover]

Also felt like arms have an edge over fury now

[ripe solar]

why you say that, xD is that bad the state in arenas?

[willow plover]

Any arms warr on EU that wana duel ?

Also is there any way to change stats on warmode gear? the only gloves there has crit on it

[boreal veldt]

In 2s arena with a decent healer we're just above middle of the road. 3s is rougher but not horrible.

We have a great utility toolkit but our uptime feels bad.

It's all relative

[chilly magnet]

It's really simple..those of us who main war and never change are masochists.

[boreal veldt]

I was raised roman catholic, I know what I am.

[rancid granite]

na that dude just sucks at pvp and blames class; warrior is like ~A tier atm

https://youtu.be/FVGXLR4YOrU

[ruby temple]

Warrior is always s tier because they have the best transmogs

[chilly magnet]

Get a pocket healer and you'll do ok like bajheera.

[rancid granite]

dont 1v1 as warrior who woulda thunk

[chilly magnet]

Stay away from random bgs as well where you get no heals.

And world pvp

[rancid granite]

^ dont be ass in pvp and maybe someone will want to heal you

🙈

[chilly magnet]

I do too as prot

[boreal veldt]

Everyone who plays warrior is jacked and handsome, that's as S tier as it gets.

[ruby temple]

is bahjeers video there for BGBlitz?

id rather just play fury in BGs since they are the ZUG ZUG game mode.

[rancid granite]

idk but i know arms doesn't feel much less zug zug to me lol

[ripe solar]

im not very good in pvp but i see always rogues and dhs are very good?

[fiery kindle]

rogue is cooked rn

[ripe solar]

in 1v1 the class is so bad

[ruby temple]

I think its an impression thing. healers in BG seem to freak out more when a fury runs at them vs an arms.

[rancid granite]

yeah that too definitely a thing

even when i heal i feel the same way lmao

[boreal veldt]

It's all fun and games for healers until the demolish cast bar appears

[chilly magnet]

Def need to either stun or zerk rage on anything that can fear or cc

Demolish needs a propee setup that's for sure.

[boreal veldt]

Manage your dr and in solo if you're with a rogue, let him do the setup for you

Why me stun if rog stun work fine

[chilly magnet]

Rogue stuns are nice

[fiery kindle]

seeing stormbolt when im on my rogue

feelsbad

[boreal veldt]

It's important for rog to remind your Warr teammates you'll do the stunning

But also

[fiery kindle]

sometimes mf are on autopilot and dont listen.

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-player-speaking-wow-gif-27271750

[fiery kindle]

LMAO

[ruby temple]

yeah sorry rogues I am a WARRIOR which means I am BETTER than you and so I am going to STORMBOLT the HEALER when I am bladestorming the DPS because it looks COOL for my YOUTUBE compilation video.

eh I think both play the same role in BGs so I just like to play fury in there and arms in arenas when I can.

[bold yarrow]

i just absolutely annihilated a feral druid in wpvp and right before i was about to execute him my game lagged out and we stood running in place for like 8 seconds and when things started working again I was cycloned and he was full health 💀

[jovial torrent]

arms just puts out teamfight pressure imo, thunderclap slows/bleeds highish dps, sharpen on kill targets , intervene on their kill targets

in blitz, and defending flag carriers, i always find monks just zip off away from war, needs to be a class that can spam slows like rogue/dk

[ruby temple]

only nerds chase FCs anyways, just sit a healer all game

I usually pick squishiest healer and sit them all game

[jovial torrent]

honestly ive been playing holy paladin alot, having a dps sit on your ass is frustrating

cus you do eventually need to cast a bit

[chilly magnet]

My evoker can handle a bit of pressure

When healing.

But after my anti ccs cds are used any melee is annoying af

[jovial torrent]

paladin struggles to aoe heal outside of cd's, so if u have 1 dps riding you its hard to get the holy lights off to keep up healing per second, and recasting your tyrs

[willow plover]

idk warr feels as shit as ever as soon as there is mage in the lobby

which is fair i guess

[jovial torrent]

ye, u can get like micro rooted at the worst times

focus on hitting what you can i think

dont chase the mage outside of bladestorm cd

[willow plover]

i had 2 shuffles in a row with mage, ele and boomkin

i just cant play

not giving up yet though but mental is slowly degrading

[chilly magnet]

Great mages are impossibile

Good mages you have a fighting chance

[bold yarrow]

the worst part about mage is when you get mad about them and try to kill them and it just makes you die even more embarrassingly

[willow plover]

yeah idk the mages and even this last 2 warlocks at 1900 felt crazy to get to

but im not that good either so just practice makes perfect

[chilly magnet]

Try and save your inital charge for after the blink

If you charge he's just gonna blink

[boreal veldt]

Maybe if they buff slam again

[chilly magnet]

So I run in and how to slow

[willow plover]

does roots even have dr ?

[chilly magnet]

They blink and then I'll charge

I'll use howl to slow first

[boreal veldt]

Mages usually use shift after first blink

[cinder thorn]

I saw one warlock who just stood there and kept casting, ate all my damage and killed our whole team - destruction, doesnt matter if I interrupted his casts on cd with minimal pummel cd he just killed everyone

[deep epoch]

Take double leap instead of disarm. Pew pew

[willow plover]

i feel you brother

[cinder thorn]

I leveled a new war from scratch and totally forgot about slaughterhouse since it isnt used whilst leveling, just remembered after countless bgs and arena fights XD

at 80

[deep epoch]

[willow plover]

I was about to level another warrior but tbh as soon as im a good player im moving off this class

[deep epoch]

Woyer for life here. 1 class and 1 class only. I have 3 lol

[fickle forge]

Then don't play this class if you wanna be good

Play sub, arcane etc. if you wanna get good

[willow plover]

im prolly going to try sub once i master arena

[rancid granite]

sub is so hard to play but if you pull it off you feel like a genius

[sharp meteor]

Wait until target off DR

press castsequence macro

🧠

[hardy wave]

I would honestly play a ranged if you want to master arena, that way you can see how they will play against you as a melee.

[willow plover]

i just want to feel the contrast of having control over a game rather than being played like a fiddle

[fierce elm]

Master arena the fuck

So in like 4 years?

[rancid granite]

tekken combo easy vs target dummy... mix in stuns/cc/fear/etc/etc and it ruins every plan you had

[fierce elm]

4-10 years*

infinitely

[hardy wave]

I was going to say, 4 years a little light

[willow plover]

itll take the time it takes

[sharp meteor]

I mean any spec is hard if you're pressing your buttons whenever but yeah.

[rancid granite]

ever play paladin or warrior

pretty straight forward

compared to sub

[fierce elm]

Warrior teaches you how to waddle around the Arena

[sharp meteor]

Sub is even more straight forward

[fierce elm]

Paladin teaches you how utility works and awareness

[hardy wave]

I came back from a 4 year break and leveled 7 classes because I didn't know what he hell was going on and I am still an idiot.

[willow plover]

You know what they say, you need to walk before you can run

[fierce elm]

Sub teaches you how to apply pressure with minimal damage

[sharp meteor]

It's just the aligning with teammates thing

[willow plover]

Hence we are all here walking around the arena

[pure hornet]

what's wrong with this class? i dont think warri is that great, but the fun you get with warr,is miles ahead of rest

[green wharf]

paladin teaches you melee classes can be ranged

[hardy wave]

Warrior kind of feels like am I dying are you dying.

[green wharf]

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[jovial torrent]

2k+ felt like it was just full of feral, hunter, shaman lock spriest

and the occasional rogue/ret

[sharp meteor]

?

[jovial torrent]

id say like half my games had atleast 1 spriest 1 lock

[fierce elm]

?

[rancid granite]

straight forward just gotta align a bunch of dmg modifiers and combo points and DS procs in a small time window, avoid cc so you can pull off the whole sequence

big dam then

[sleek wave]

fury haste taking over mastery just one via murloc tho

[sharp meteor]

are u like a 1600 pika viewer or something

[rancid granite]

im a 1600 rogue who mained warrior

idk what point you're trying to make

[jovial torrent]

just reroll healer and gain a free rating

first time healing

[willow plover]

what healer are u playing?

[jovial torrent]

hpal, leveling MW atm

hpal doesnt have that many buttons and u just sort of roll through cd, hoj nearest target

i feel like i could have got 2100 last night but i got tilted a bit, the flame is real for any small mistake u make, and i troll myself a bit going for a rep or a hoj just to end up getting cc

[willow plover]

I have a disc priest i tried to play but i suck so i gave up

[jovial torrent]

i need to figure out how to get ally defensives to show up on raid frames, cus i kept bop'ing spriests while they are in dispers

hpal is probs the easiest healer to get into, they dont have that many buttons

[rancid granite]

not much casting either

i didn't think i'd like healing but swapping to holy on paladin has been rather fun

[jovial torrent]

kind of, u have to cast searing glare in 25 yard range, repentance 30 yard range, and u do need to holy light every so often

and run off to re up your tyr's deliverence, which can be annoying in some games

cus u cant tell ppl, hey im running of to press tyr , use ur own defensivs

[rancid granite]

yeah

[jovial torrent]

honestly tho, if u just pve pretty well max range, hoj the dps who isnt stun dr'd u can get 1800 for free

[rancid granite]

do you mainly just cast blessing of summers or w/e on yourself

[jovial torrent]

feral druids, rogues and hunters rustle my jimmy tho, their cc setup is free and they have teleport interrupts

[rancid granite]

the one that changes

[jovial torrent]

i cast them all on myself, summer does alot of dmg

with wings

[rancid granite]

noted

[jovial torrent]

they nerfed it by a decent ammount tho which is kind of sadge, from 18% of healing to dmg to 12

whats ur q time like atm

thats really the only thing holding me back from spamming war

[willow plover]

between 10 and 20 min

[bold yarrow]

im lucky to get 20 mins

but i am only at 1600

[jovial torrent]

oo also gz on the enchant mog

[bold yarrow]

and i know they try to align the classes to be more balanced

[jovial torrent]

healer q is sub one min to instant

at 2k tho the flame does begin lol, would reccomend disabling /say

[fiery kindle]

Bro said sub is straight forward 😂

[willow plover]

I have enchant since before i have 2.2k in 2s

which is million times easier than shuffle

[jovial torrent]

shuffle is so weirdly deflated, i hope it increases soon, i honestly might only play my war in bg blitz

[deep epoch]

I find shuffle easier. But then again, I never play the meta.

[jovial torrent]

top hpal in shuffle is 2500, was 2400 yesterday i think, and in blits is 3k

[deep epoch]

I’ve never 2v2 with a hpal yet. 👀

[bold yarrow]

there's no chance of me doing solo shuffle on my disc anymore. The people are so awful

[jovial torrent]

hpal is dirty in 2v2, u start with blessing of summer and shit out like 10 mil dmg in the opener

[bold yarrow]

you will have every player LOS you nonstop until probably 2000 at least... but you get blamed

[jovial torrent]

^

locks are the worst cus they get to like 50% hp and just randomly teleport back behind the pillar away from u

[rancid granite]

i was just gonna say the same thing; happened to me last match

[jovial torrent]

thats why im thinking of just sitting back and pve hoj only closest target

[rancid granite]

then he said oh huh bad healer

lol

[willow plover]

I have big respect for u who manage to player healer

its really difficult

[rancid granite]

healer feels like a 1v1 vs enemy healer

while swapping the minion dps

lots of fun

[bold yarrow]

yeah kind of does

if you have voice that's like 500 free rating right there

[elfin surge]

KAP

[bold yarrow]

99% of the losses without voice are because they saved a defensive

when you were cc'd

[jovial torrent]

yeh pretty much, then u get hit with the ? why didnt u x me u had x left

its like well i just popped bubble, trinket xyz to chase u deep around pillars as u circled them like a chimp

had such a frustrating loss last night, ww monk came in deep i had wings and summer up, hoj got him to 50% with the sham on my team, but the rogue followed them into their starting room on lorderon and ? me when he died even tho he could have just swapped to ww and won right there

[willow plover]

maybe its easier on NA servers

[elfin surge]

Na better region also harder region

[fierce elm]

yeah NA is better than EU

[jovial torrent]

i wonder which region meta slaves harder

i feel like eu is just full of feral spriest lock rerollers

and last week ele shams

[willow plover]

u guys are fried

[fierce elm]

NA > EU

[urban skiff]

sparks gave bronze

[fiery kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-patriot-movie-tomahawk-redcoats-america-gif-13793125

[urban skiff]

Guys I just can't get over how little people attack me in world content when I'm on my warrior and just how often I get attacked on my shaman

it's wild

[fierce elm]

fuck shamans

thats why

[urban skiff]

that's what I keep telling my wife

[orchid badge]

as a protwarr in world pvp ive almst never died

like 3 times since i hit 80 😄

[urban skiff]

yeah same

aaaand that's 64 bronze tokens

first up is paladin set despite not even having a paladin

[fickle forge]

He wants to become good at the game, and there are better classes for that than warrior

[pure hornet]

like what? rogue? casters?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[prisma depot]

Fellas i have no idea what to craft for arms

Did people craft weapons because it was optimal for season start

or is the embelishment actually bis

[urban skiff]

Imho it was never optimal

they didn't guess what embellishment was going to be best and handicapped themselves by crafting weapon they could have gotten for free instead of jewelry

I think people are running double lens now

[rancid granite]

it was optimal for like, 2 weeks

kinda suffered from it though it seems lol

[urban skiff]

I mean, I called it back then as well

Problem is I say a lot of shit, but I'm also right about a lot

[bold yarrow]

what do you guys think about the guild wars approach to pvp gearing, where you just have a separate set of armor that is essentially just gifted to you for pvp. It's competitive to begin with and can e marginally upgraded / customized

[willow plover]

I like gradually becoming stronger

Not like it is now but i like that its not just given

[pure hornet]

very nice, but gw2 sucs,boring as hell,

[bold yarrow]

interesting

[orchid badge]

im struggling to decide between colossus and slayer atm

[bold yarrow]

i always thought being forced to be dead weight on a new char for awhile was brutal for everyone

but im an alt aholic

[urban skiff]

bajheera doing crit spear demolish vids. Now everyone's gonna do that