pvp

[dense herald]

it deals 20% additional

but dont let it fool u

its not 20% dmg bladestorm increse

its only 20% dmg bladestorm increse when its pure ST

[orchid badge]

what debuff made my thunderclap miss
i was spinning flag in AB and all my attacks missed a guy who was capping

[sharp meteor]

Glare?

[rancid granite]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/class-tuning-incoming-october-29-1993760

people read have the page only idk why

[sharp meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/amalamcrae-gif-21874160

[rancid granite]

scroll down to pvp changes and there's another section lol

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff back to fully working out now, GF said she liked me more fluffy and I wanna prove her ass wrong

Shoulder still scuffed, but managed to do chestwork, might move over to volume stuff

[chilly pivot]

whats name of the addon that shows what ability u press

[rancid granite]

heieililkil

heiklil

heikili

[scarlet barn]

One more time

[rancid granite]

hkeiklili

[scarlet barn]

Hekili yes

[chilly pivot]

its another i looking for that just show me what i just pressed

[rancid granite]

👀

[chilly pivot]

streamers often have that so viewers can see what they pressed

[pastel fossil]

arms or fury meta atm?

[fierce elm]

Neither

[pastel fossil]

between the two :p

[fierce elm]

Right now? Neither, next reset? Arms probably

[pastel fossil]

glad arms is making a comeback

[fierce elm]

You are asking this before a big patch is about to hit

[pastel fossil]

didnt the big patch just hit?

[fierce elm]

Both have basically the same stats

This is a balancing patch

So tuesday/wednesday both arms and fury are receiving substantial buffs

[pastel fossil]

good

lol

feral going down i hope?

[fierce elm]

Probably not

[pastel fossil]

bruh wtf

[fierce elm]

but arms and fury are def jumping up

Meaning kittycleave is more viable

[pastel fossil]

colossus or slayer best?

im so sick of slayer

lol

[fierce elm]

No idea yet

[rancid granite]

its about 50/50 atm

[fierce elm]

all comes down to what the tuning means in actual numbers

[pastel fossil]

as long as its not like 90/10 id rather just go colossus since i like it better

[pure hornet]

Wow
Taurem looks so nice

[pastel fossil]

its cool and fun

[buoyant chasm]

Tauren are the best warriors

[pure hornet]

Only in pve

Pvp gome is usefull

[rancid granite]

yeah but you're 2ft tall no one cares about baby yoda its not intimidating

[buoyant chasm]

I mean best looks

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8i4o08gizE

find me a video like this but gnome you cant

Pat the goat tauren warrior

[pure hornet]

Believe this or not when you are tauren every1 and they’re mother wants to kills you
Focused everywhere
Specially bg and shuffle
You draw much attention
People release more dopamine when big guy falls

[rancid granite]

hahah i guess thats the other side of it

gnome falls below the radar, literally

but if a tauren charging you youre much more inclined to backpedal

[pure hornet]

Mage can see you better

React faster

[rancid granite]

innate taunt sounds useful too; protecting your team np

[pure hornet]

With gnome you seem invisible
Specially if no fact transmog

[pure hornet]

I play only 2’s so not much team to help

[copper fox]

This feels like you’re projecting ngl

lol

[pure hornet]

Big cow feels nice tough

[copper fox]

David naked af in that pfp

[buoyant chasm]

Plus the big weapons

[pure hornet]

What is pfp

[copper fox]

Context clues would conclude that it’s profile picture

[rancid granite]

i mean yeah; but it seems innate to everyone... ever play one of the souls games for easy example?

big boss rush you -> panic roll panic dodge

[pure hornet]

At gym you can pose like that i guess

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/boromir-cave-troll-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16342589

^ spooky moment

[pure hornet]

Yeah but i allways want a piece of the boss so you are more targeted

[rancid granite]

thats cause you're a courageous warrior

💪

[copper fox]

Never been to a gym so I wouldn’t know

[pure hornet]

With warrior dropping as fast as he is,adds more to the downfall
One more reason for frost to climax

[copper fox]

wut

[pure hornet]

This is discord warrior pvp
You musttt go to the gym…

And quit school early
Or your brain grows and are unqualified for warrior

[chilly pivot]

do u try to stack up slaughtering strikes before rampage or just prio rampage when ready?

[copper fox]

Damn dude alright I’ll start Monday. Should I do chest?

Isn’t Monday for chest in gym culture

[pure hornet]

Legs

So you make sure you wont skip

[copper fox]

Ok what leg workouts should I do

[pure hornet]

500mll test enanthate
Squat
And eat big

Best leg training ever

[chilly magnet]

thats easy

[bold yarrow]

[chilly magnet]

https://youtu.be/LFkSidbQu2o?si=zZeZeWMMZy4g6ey4

laintime was my fav for warrior pvp in vanilla

[copper fox]

Thanks bro l will start that Monday. I appreciate any gym advice

[pure hornet]

Np bro
But is your name weird guy for sure because you are a weird guy for sure?

[rancid granite]

the name is super familiar lol

there was another orc warrior but i cant find it anymore

[wary vault]

you guys, whats the verdict, will arms now be better in pvp over fury? mainly 2v2 and blitz?

[rancid granite]

ask again in a week

[wary vault]

Still in tryouts i guess

[rancid granite]

nothing to tryout patch isnt out yet lol

[wary vault]

ah haha okay silly me

[chilly magnet]

If you suck at arms play fury if you suck at fury play arms and if you suck at both play prot and if you suck at that just interrupt stuff for people

[sharp meteor]

Prot is the hardest to play.

[stone garnet]

I ran into an 1800 prot war in shuffle last night. I was playing arms, that shit sucked.

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, prot absolutely crushed both other specs of warr.

Absolute peak lobby is like fury/prot/arms then a hunter, windwalker or outlaw

[stone garnet]

Between him and the frost mage I couldn't connect anywhere.

[azure willow]

https://tenor.com/fr/view/police-officer-super-troopers-security-state-park-gif-95210961218086730

[old snow]

are people still getting kicked from ss and blitz?

[urban skiff]

fuck yea

[urban skiff]

prot is secret tech

[eager lake]

i had a prot warr on my lobby one of these days and bro, he was doing so much dmg i was impressed

[orchid badge]

im very interested in prot shuffle

[restive glacier]

Can I ask which embelishments should I run as Fury in PvP? I am new to warrior

[rancid granite]

check murlok.io to see what the top players are running

[stone garnet]

For real, and the slows/roots were killer.

[restive glacier]

Ascendence weapon and Writhing Armor it is then, I guess

[willow plover]

What u guys experience as fury in shuffle this week

[fallen estuary]

Frost mage frost mage frost mage frost mage frost mage

[sharp meteor]

Fourth prot execute buff soon

[wheat jay]

Yall still play pvp.

?

Maybe i should give kfc with kargish a go

Or warr dh

[boreal veldt]

We playin prot now

[green wharf]

prot execute actually hurts

[hoary latch]

arms broken tuesday ???

[hot solstice]

arms not even hitting ww lvls of damage

• still squishy af

[tacit swallow]

I wonder I think the damage might be significant but not landing 80% of your demolish will feel identical. Not sure how that intend to balance damage of an unlandable ability.

[sharp meteor]

Stun them.

[green wharf]

so many stuff getting classes immune to stun though

[rancid granite]

dont use it on someone who is running circles around you

other abilities work similar you know!

it's like saying sub burst is useless cause people can defensive or kite away 😢 silly smol brain warriors

[green wharf]

[bold yarrow]

what's a good addon for visualizing enemy casts in arena? gladiator cast bars don't seem to work

[tacit swallow]

Zug zug

Just saying you often don't get the big numbers instead you burn people's cds. Still good but no zug.

[chilly magnet]

Some people think they need to blow their cds without letting their opponent blow their defensive first.

[rancid granite]

elaborate 🤔

[chilly magnet]

Like don't avatar and demolish before a hunter blows turtle

Or blow demolish during a pallies bof

[rancid granite]

ahh yeah

[violet fossil]

yo why the fuck

is execute so dealyed

[chilly pivot]

is wrecking throw something that we use in pvp?

[green wharf]

from what people side before is dogshit

[echo bone]

It’s shiet

when you see a bubble switch targets

[chilly pivot]

okey 🙂

whats the best Embellishments for fury? :S

i see like blizo only use 1 embellishment

why the r1 players didnt use that ? i also think it was the best

they just use 1 embellished, they dont use writihing armor banding to dubble the effect

i check on pvp check and amory to, they just use 1 .p

[rancid granite]

do we know any fancy ret pally streamers or guides or anything

👀

DF pvp sets being out motivated me

look good feel good play good

[chilly pivot]

oh he use dubble elemental focusing lens 😮

[rancid granite]

oh he still exists i remembe rhim

[green wharf]

boo this man chat

[rancid granite]

odin and valhalla welcome the strong

class matters not

[green wharf]

in wow it actually matters

[rancid granite]

odin blesses me on the daily i actually still pvp

[green wharf]

and real valhala you need to die, so cant be paladin

[rancid granite]

imagine what he thinks of all these nerds hating on pvp and refuse to pvp

oh trust me i die often

🙏

[chilly pivot]

first time playing retail since legion, just 300 rating left 😛

[copper fox]

Huge

[jovial torrent]

playing fury or arms atm?

[quaint osprey]

so what exactly is the purpose of this readded vendor

i thought you can get the sets from other classes when you reached the rank that season on any char

why can i only buy the sets i got anyway

[fierce elm]

nobody knows

why it was added

[quaint osprey]

tbh on this patch nothing scares me anymore

[green wharf]

thats just another blizzard dumb thing

nothing to see here

[sleek wave]

what 4 set pieces are we using for fury?

nvm i forgot murloc.io exists

[silk steppe]

We Colossus bros next week?

[dark topaz]

Hey idk if this was answered already but it's TrufiGCD

[urban skiff]

I just wait for bubble to end so I can humiliate them twice in one match

[green wharf]

i used to have the shattering

but ti not use

since the time you cast that shit they alreadya re fully healed anyway

[urban skiff]

Shattering throw isn't aesthetic

[green wharf]

i mean, it should be

should deal damage and break shields/absorbs

[cobalt gale]

We gonna press slam after reset?

I hate slam

They buffed it to 40%

[fierce elm]

probably not

hopefully not

but who knows at this point

[green wharf]

it was already bad that slam damage was so much more than thunderclap and rend, now it needs to be the filler again, kinda

[willow plover]

big!

[verbal ember]

Remind me again why intervene is a good spell, when you are wearing paper for armor and have the shittiest defensives?

[willow plover]

Some 2.7k xp prot pala is trying to convince me that prot pala + fury warrior is the best 2v2 comp in the game

[verbal ember]

We all know the real filler is hamstring 😛

[hot solstice]

to kill totems

nothings more depressing than sending 2 stacks mortal on grounding

[dark topaz]

wow ok demolish gang

poor feral didn't know what happened

[green wharf]

i think with thunderclap you dont need no?

rend+slow, so you don't get stuck in some weird GCD

[hot solstice]

its only 20% and aint no way u go 1 talent point to make it 40%

[green wharf]

1 point to free 3 buttons

[brisk meadow]

Do casters not need to cast?

or am I tweaking

these affli locks and shadowpriests are busting my ass without getting actual casts off

[fierce elm]

they dont

[lavish quest]

They're just strictly better 40 yd melee now

[green wharf]

welcome to modern wow

casters have more hp, don't cast and more survival

well, except demo and destro

[brisk meadow]

Damn

I am legitimately training this guy, kicking all insanity flays

fearing void torrents

and I get bent and lose by 10 mil in dmg

not to mention disc priest doing crazy dps but that's another thing

[willow plover]

I feel like i have more success of sitting in d stance entire shuffle lobby in some comps, i was against dh, ww and devo and it was just impossible to live they just kill me through wall and everything

Went 1/6 like every other shuffle game this week

[brisk meadow]

not to mention

affli lock constantly dispelling my hamstring?

what's that about

[lavish quest]

All the while caster scream melee op

[brisk meadow]

Who would win in a 1v1

resto druid or resto sham

watching these two thug it out after both dps died

[green wharf]

poor mages, crying when a warrior land two hits after using all charges and two heroic leaps

[brisk meadow]

feral is kinda wild that I do give to those caster guys

but otherwise ranged is just superior like wtf

[green wharf]

only melees i have problem with are feral and RET

[brisk meadow]

let an affli cast for 3 seconds and your hp bar is depleted

[green wharf]

rarely a unholy

but it feels i can manage unholy pretty well

[willow plover]

i think ferals are not that scary, i hate more evokers, mages and ww

[chilly pivot]

with [Berserker's Torment] , do u use recklesness or avatar first?

[green wharf]

bro fuck evokers

[willow plover]

Rogues also when they lock me down i cant fucking chase anyone so its basically just a walking simmulator again

i know im not that good at the game but pushing out of 1800 in shuffle rn seems close to impossible for me

[green wharf]

i hit 1606 and stopped

will wait the buffs

[willow plover]

Its so funny in all shuffle lobbies my teammates says to focus the devo.. im like bruh

[green wharf]

my big problem is not being able to finish people

[green wharf]

yeah, lmao

i did a meme about this the other day hold on

[willow plover]

my problem is that i dont deal damage and that i die in an instant

[willow plover]

lmao

[brisk meadow]

feral does mad dmg if played right

[green wharf]

ferals can just turn into bear

[brisk meadow]

lmao these two healers are still thugging it out

[green wharf]

and be immortal

evoker just fly around and heal everything

[brisk meadow]

fuck prevoker

why stun, if can cast

[willow plover]

best part is that u cant hamstring, stormbolt or shockwave or kick them

[brisk meadow]

yeah

I hate priest fade too

always fading that damn stormbolt

[willow plover]

i almost always use stormbolt to lock down my target im trying to kill

[brisk meadow]

same but when the healer is disc (in 2s) it's almost always better to sit the disc

or I just get pounded

[willow plover]

really?

[brisk meadow]

unless it's disc affli

[willow plover]

i do not agree

[brisk meadow]

then I just don't exist anymore

[willow plover]

i think its never good to hit a disc tbh

[green wharf]

stormbolt is such a lame stun, always give people enough time to avoid it

[brisk meadow]

I mean I might be wrong but letting a disc freecast is not good

[green wharf]

paladin stun just happens

[brisk meadow]

that you can at least reflect

[green wharf]

Warrior badly need a rework

[brisk meadow]

with prediction

[green wharf]

mechanics from classic yet

[willow plover]

idk ive been thinking of switching to a more stable class all week

[brisk meadow]

why is Bm hunter a thing

btw

[dense herald]

then they push u away and ur left with nothing,while slowed for 70% in the middle of the map

[green wharf]

after melting 50% of your hp with some instant cast bs

mages:

[orchid badge]

monk on enemy team teleports all around the map with flag

monk on my team "i can try to FC if nobody else wants to"

[willow plover]

sitting all round in dstance works

[green wharf]

i should have printed

but yesterday match

i had two druids, one monk and a evoker

discussing how their classes are right now

the worst flag carriers

we only won because me and a priest took it

hell bracket

[chilly pivot]

how often can this trinket procc? any weakaura for that?

[willow plover]

Guys this prot pala is not stopping trying to convince me to play 2s with him.. is prot pala + fury a real thing or no?

[fierce elm]

no need to track it, it has a high ass uptime though

[willow plover]

im almost 2.2k cr dont really want to risk that with some shit comp

[fierce elm]

Prot pala fury is not a real thing in 2s no

[willow plover]

this guy is insane

[fierce elm]

it used to be a thing but not anymore

pre-off healing nerfs to every spec

[willow plover]

yeah i played almost 150 games this seasn and never saw it ever in 2s

[dense herald]

its kinda a thing

not rly

theres a streamer that plays prot pala in 2s

[green wharf]

it would be nice if when people quee as tank they would automatically disconect

[brisk meadow]

half the players are on the edge of disconnecting anyway

way too many people are just teleporting around

[willow plover]

my shuffle healers often disconnects

not rare at all

[brisk meadow]

bunch of wanks they are

I've only had 1 guy dc

but in 2s I keep seeing people just rubberband HARD

[orchid badge]

who?

[dense herald]

i dont remember his name

[willow plover]

Players of which class usually complains the least about pvp changes for their class? like which players do u never hear anything from?

[lavish quest]

Tanks

They know their place is in keys or raid

Except the furry prot player here

[green wharf]

everyone complains a lot, but the least i think is evokers

cause blizz is not going to nerf that shit class

then i think warriors/hunter

they kinda accepted being in the dumpster at this point

[fierce elm]

Enhance players

straight up

Nothing comes close to Enhance gamers

Its so spec specific

rather than class specific

outlaw seems to be vibes but sub/assa players are wack as fuck

[willow plover]

i never even tried to understrand enhance it was always a mystery to me

[fierce elm]

In terms of spec, Enhance > Survival > Outlaw

straight up

[willow plover]

but after watching zercher play it it does seem very fun to play

[fierce elm]

Mistweavers and Windwalkers tend to be chill too

Anyone saying Warrior is wild

In terms of least bitching I think Monk has to take the top spot

[lavish quest]

We warriors complain a lot. Rightfully so, but still

[fierce elm]

Enhance is probably the most chad spec, consistently being placed lowest on every tier list each season

[willow plover]

I thought maybe the ones who dont complain a lot are playing the more stable classes in the game

for good or bad

[fierce elm]

Naaa

[brisk meadow]

fuck bm hunters

:c

[fierce elm]

Mages/Rogues/Priests are pretty huge whining babies

But for example, Arcane Mages are pretty chill, so are spriest when it isnt meta

[lavish quest]

That's just being submissive

[willow plover]

i mean u know what u getting into playing that

[fierce elm]

So yeah, its probably Monks if going by class, Enhance if going by spec

Because rsham/ele boys can also be whiny

Its just that warriors rarely get to be crybabies because they are pretty consistent at being minimum a-tier

But when it does happen this place is doomposting whining fiesta

[lavish quest]

Our a tier is every other spec's C tier

[willow plover]

i mean im part of that doomposting its just cause i dont fall back on any other spec and i get tilted af when i get rugpulled like that

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

So just play a spec and not a tier list lmao

Thats what I do

[lavish quest]

^

[willow plover]

What do u play

[lavish quest]

So I just play warrior. And thus I don't pvp atm much

[fierce elm]

Picked up ret at end of df s3 so Kargish could play warrior

[lavish quest]

Don't listen to afro, he's a ret reroller

[fierce elm]

Was aight in both seasons, good in s4

Now its at the bottom of the list

If PvP gamecycle was fun id do it but its so messy rn

[willow plover]

Ive been thinking all week of rerlling or picking up a new class but im playing the easiest class and spec in the game and im struggling, im just going to get dissapointed trying anything else

[lavish quest]

Was a warrior, ret became giga OP, Afro insta rerolled

[brisk meadow]

15 second solo shuffle queue 🤨

[fierce elm]

I mean just play another spec as your alt lmao

[fierce elm]

Lies, warrior was better s3 smh

[lavish quest]

PvP is never fun when ranged is good

#changemymind

[verbal ember]

Can someone explain ability priority list to me like i'm stuck in 1600 SS ? 😄

[rancid granite]

roid rage (or rage rage i guess)

[verbal ember]

As arms

[fierce elm]

The point still stands, play a spec and not tier list

[lavish quest]

Still after the ret rework

Technically

😛

[fierce elm]

Mortal strike on cooldown, OP, keep rend up, hamstring, slam

[rancid granite]

i thought paladins in general would be as chill as monks

[fierce elm]

I DIDNT PLAY S1 OR S2 lmao

Paladins are also crybabies

at least in PvE

the PvP boys in paladin discord are chill as fuck

[rancid granite]

the paladin discord seemed reeeal vacant

[lavish quest]

Did you, or did you not, reroll ret after the rework?

[verbal ember]

what about execute

[lavish quest]

I rest my case.

[fierce elm]

shut up nerd

[fierce elm]

whenever, but always mortal strike on cooldown

Been thinking about picking up Enhance tbh

[wary ridge]

facts, doing blacksmithing paladins are the worst by far

[fierce elm]

They are getting some interesting changes

[lavish quest]

That's what I thought

[wary ridge]

shamans are impossible to get a reply out of & monks are tightarsed

[lavish quest]

Ret is fun tho

[fierce elm]

But really, a tier list doesnt determine the fun you will have at a game and never will

[lavish quest]

I should prob try WW pvp too

[verbal ember]

how do you track CD on MS if you got the talent that can reset its CD?

[fierce elm]

By hitting it when it lights up

You see the reset happening on screen iirc

unless they changed that

[lavish quest]

Weak auras my friend

[fierce elm]

also that

[verbal ember]

If you have MS ready and no rend or hamstring on the target

do you MS first and then hamstring + rend

[lavish quest]

hamstring

[verbal ember]

or other way?

[fierce elm]

You hanstring first

[lavish quest]

Or you play like an absolute ape like me, rarely hamstring and complain later

[fierce elm]

Then MS then rend assuming you dont have deep wounds up

if deep wounds are up rend > MS

[verbal ember]

arigth ty

[lavish quest]

Don't worry, with you being rooted all the time, you'll always have MS up by the time you make it to a target

Get one attack off, and then rooted again

[verbal ember]

Yeah figures

[brisk meadow]

I just had the most disgusting solo shuffle comp

Affli destro mm

fun game 👍

not to mention this is the 2nd time I've heroic leaped in a SS game and disconnected

[orchid badge]

if someone finds a protwarr pvp streamer hit me up

[lavish quest]

Umm... it can be so much worse than that

[brisk meadow]

oh for sure but that already blows

lost 2 rounds for nothing for that disconnect as well...

first I disconnect at a crucial point then I get back in, addons are all fucked, reload again, ui scale is fucked and can't see gladius etc

although, I don't remember warlock being so mobile

[willow plover]

Its so funny when healers talk shit in shuffle and u bite back

then they just dont heal anymore

type of people u want to take to the parking lot to solve things..

[rancid granite]

protip: buy roses and flowers and give to them before match starts

[willow plover]

I mean i just afk when i get trolled like that no need for roses

[rancid granite]

roses premptive strike to help stop them raging

or apologize and say you're 8 irl and you're sorry

[willow plover]

I rather write their names down and hold grudges all my life

[fierce elm]

Want a maybe TOS breaking secret

buy stuff on AH that has 1 in each stack for cheap as fuck gold, send it to their mailbox and fill it

#toxictipswithafro

[willow plover]

lol how many items do i have to buy to do that

[fierce elm]

They only display the first 100 🙂

[willow plover]

lol

so i can keep going forever?

[fierce elm]

: )

[willow plover]

brb

[fierce elm]

And if they ever press all they fill their bag with useless items

[willow plover]

is there some feces item i can send

[fierce elm]

that they then have to go through the hassle of vendoring 1 by 1

Although you can only send like 20 mails per hour or something

BUT, if they again press open all they ge tit

so if they have to either collect it or avoid it for 30 days, boom bam, press collect all, ez pz annoysnce

[rancid granite]

then after you can make a reddit post 'i got banned for literally no reason' 'wow people are so toxic' :D

[fierce elm]

I dont think its a TOS offense but dont @ me lmao

So find a cheap as fuck item that has a stack limit of one and send it to every troll

[rancid granite]

i just hit 1800 super easy in ss as ret pally what the hell

[fierce elm]

Just make sure its not a junk item

so green random items for 1 gold can work

[rancid granite]

^ paladin main teaching kids swear words basically

[fierce elm]

Sidenote: if they randomly sell an item they need they have to manually restore it if they dont notice it immediately : )

[hot solstice]

every spec that has some kind off dam immunity or ways to avoid damage is bis for shuffle...cause damp ramps so fast that taking damage in wall still means u take damage that is harder to heal with each moment

[fierce elm]

Cant be that they have immensely buffed solo shuffle MMR and that is most noticeable on a new character

[hot solstice]

they buffed it like by 100 points

[fierce elm]

Which is HUUGE

but yeah, paladin probs better than warr in SS

[hot solstice]

well depends

[fierce elm]

due to utility

[hot solstice]

like

with 30% wall u need to force all cds as soon as possible from enemy team

but

war need damp to do that

and in damp it dies easier than most of specs

[willow plover]

im giving up on warrior journey to glad

[hot solstice]

weak

me shotting tonyferal on 2200 mmr

[scenic oracle]

Out of curiosity, how come crit is usually a bad stat for any spec?

[hot solstice]

cause modifier is only 150%

and its not 100% granted

while other stats buff ur every hit

[scenic oracle]

So its just bad scaling and lack of consistency

[hot solstice]

and its not true

outlaw goes versa crit

cause rogues gcd is fastest in game they dont need haste

[wheat jay]

Consistent 20-30% more dmg vs 20% chance to get 50% more dmg

[scenic oracle]

Makes sense, thank you

[hot solstice]

even in case with arms that has bunch of crit modifiers its still bad stat

[wheat jay]

ye because our mastery is PURE dmg

[fierce elm]

I go no secondary stats

[wheat jay]

we go pve

👍

i have raid at 20, so if you wanna do a key or sth let me know 👍

[fierce elm]

wtf

I got boys night today

[lavish quest]

geii

[sleek wave]

4 set still not worth it after the buffs? fury

[pure hornet]

Bad decision

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm its okay, i had online boys night yesterday, everyone from diff city so hard to meet irl xD

[willow plover]

no im tired of 1/6 games on shuffle now

[pure hornet]

Buy more vers, slot biiter imunity, play better,
You can get glad on any class

Or play what you enjoy

Better yet, hide rating for 2-3 weeks and just play
Whe you have fun, loosing is of no importance

Some1 has to do the loosing or we would all be winners

[fierce elm]

or reroll and dont be a dweeb

im kidding before someone jumps at me

[willow plover]

its ok make fun of me

childish, bad temper and whining

[pure hornet]

Nah
If you dont like it dont play it

You can try shanmy
Or go other side and main frost

Just try have fun mate🤗

[urban skiff]

What stat are you stacking that 10% crit is equivalent to 20-30% more damage?

[wheat jay]

can you read

[fierce elm]

I do

❤️

10% crit is 200% more damage

[urban skiff]

obviously i can't

or I would be on the mage discord

[copper fox]

You can’t get glad in solo shuffle so that’s irrelevant

[lavish quest]

No, send halp

[sleek wave]

but u can be a legend isnt that the same? or there are differences?

Fury pvp enjoyers u think the 4 set is worth it. im in the fence of crafting my shoulders next week

[rancid granite]

wait and see what murlok does

I'd bet it won't change tho

[pure hornet]

No
4 set i would say is weaker than conq gear.you could use the versatility/mastery

[fierce elm]

its not the same

Glad gives a mount

[pure hornet]

Legend is 3-4 times easyer than a single glad

[sleek wave]

does legend have a season title? i just aim for duelist i cant keep up with this queue as a dps

[sleek wave]

yeah such bad stats tho. but imagine 40% BT tho but i think needs to be more haste oriented

[fierce elm]

It has a seasonal title

r1 title is different

[pure hornet]

Its not 40% bt

Please enter a pvp match and look at it again

Its 5% per stack
So 10% increase max..

Pvp modifies it.

[sleek wave]

ahh il just take it tho i have no friends for 3s. Everyone just pves/m+ but to each their own

[sleek wave]

ayt bet damn so minor even with the buffs next week

[hot solstice]

nice shit blizard

60% 1 global

[vital breach]

can i have 2 pvp rings with both lens of them equipped ?

cratfed ones *

[copper fox]

Yes

[sharp meteor]

Ye, then just need a colored gem so they actually work.

[quaint fern]

sorry if this is covered somewhere. im kinda new to pvp, highest ive been is 1400. are there any good resources/guilds/guides that will help me become a better overall PvPer

[rancid granite]

playing and playing some more / youtube / streamers

[clear pine]

Check youtube, otherwise just play and record your gameplay.

[rancid granite]

some icyveins has some decent beginner info on classes too

skillcapped addon you can checkout too

[brisk meadow]

any of you beat this rating back in the day?

[quaint fern]

thank you guys

[pure hornet]

For elemental lens embelish, do we have to but embelish on exact item with gem? Or

?

[urban skiff]

I assume no

It's probably whichever gem colour you have more of

[rancid granite]

it just changes the RP of it i thought

[pure hornet]

Ty

[ripe bloom]

What is the stat prio for arms in blitz?

murlok has both haste and mastery people so i wasn't sure

[fickle forge]

Same as all content

[copper fox]

It doesn’t have haste and mastery people. It has people using an average of these stats

[fickle forge]

Haste till taste

[copper fox]

They’re all running haste around 15-20%

Then they either go crit or mastery

[jovial torrent]

seen some do that then crit to also 15-20 then rest mast

[copper fox]

There’s no mastery left if you go 20% both stats. Negligible

Same for other way around

[jovial torrent]

ye just saying what i saw, woul dhave to look for his name but hes like 2400 atm in blitz

[copper fox]

He’s probably using a mix of fury and arms gear

Because of limited conq

[jovial torrent]

nah he just has 3 warriors

for trying diff stat spreads, said he likes some crit

[copper fox]

Either that or he’s forced to because of tier

[fickle forge]

You get crit from having tier pieces anyway

[copper fox]

Yea

Also how do you not know who you’re talking about if you know he has 3 warriors and know what he literally “says”

Huge baseball cap

[jovial torrent]

i watched his twitch a lil and youtube

im shi with names

[copper fox]

If you mix all 3 stats your warrior will be even more ass than we already are

If you aim to mix*

Not including tier stats

[wise cargo]

Do you need a gem in the actual embellishment slot for lens or just on your gear?

[copper fox]

No just anywhere in gear

[sharp meteor]

It can be anywhere.

[wise cargo]

Thanks!!

[sharp meteor]

It just has to be a gem other than a diamond or bloodstone.

[wise cargo]

Roger 🫡

[jovial torrent]

@copper fox https://www.twitch.tv/omnivorex/clip/ApatheticCovertMouseWoofer-MsigoGAygBb5iNzT this was the guy i saw thats running some crit

[urban skiff]

arms has no bad stats though

[jovial torrent]

ms and bladestorm are often in my top dmg spread so some more crit would probs feel good

[copper fox]

Gear doesn’t have enough stats. You prio one or the other or you’re beat

[urban skiff]

Why

[jovial torrent]

ive not played my war for like a couple weeks tho got 1850 and just stoppe

[copper fox]

Because math

[urban skiff]

I mean, why is priority on one stat magically going to give more damage than a spread

Yes, I have encountered this ma'ath

[copper fox]

Huge

[jovial torrent]

im probs guna change like 1 of my rings to mastery and 1 to crit, atm i have all haste verse bits and 25 haste feels overkill

[copper fox]

The game has been like this for decades lmao

[jovial torrent]

especially since bladestorm is such a huge part of the first fight

[rancid granite]

by the time you get haste/4pc you're not gonna have many slots left that will matter much

[copper fox]

Stat stacking been a thing since vanilla because mathematically it equates to more damage

Than spreading

Every xpac

[jovial torrent]

not really, for a long time it was always hit the next haste breakpoint then dump into other stats

till u could reforge and get the haste breakpoint beyond that

[copper fox]

Yes that’s what it is here and that’s what I said

[urban skiff]

No. People have been doing this for decades. Nobody has supplied proof that it is the best method.
We all intuitively know that having slightly worse stats isn't what wins/loses the game, even at high level.

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Every pve nerd has

You can literally download a sim

For it

[urban skiff]

They aren't working with pvp modifiers or uptime

you know this

[copper fox]

It’s proof beyond reasonable doubt

[jovial torrent]

we arent doing a pve rotation tho so

[urban skiff]

ok

[copper fox]

You can sim stats

[urban skiff]

Have you?

[copper fox]

No but others have so why would I

Like I said it’s figured out

[urban skiff]

name literally one pvp'er who has simmed stats in the last 5 years.

[copper fox]

Laros does it on stream

Get fkd

Which is why he has picked to go 20% haste 20% crit

As arms

Because it simd highest

[jovial torrent]

meanwhile im just leveling healers for shorter queue times so who cares

[copper fox]

So true

[urban skiff]

I'm not being quiet because you "got me". I'm being quiet because I'm fact-checking you and (if I find a video) his math

[jovial torrent]

warrior healer spec when

[copper fox]

Ok have fun funneling dozens of hours of videos

I’ll wait

[urban skiff]

Would help if you pointed me to one with a timestamp, since you seen so many of them

[copper fox]

Unfortunately it’s the only stream I watch so yes I’ve seen many. But also that’s not how this works. I responded to someone and you want to prove it wrong so you have to do the work

I’m not doing your fact checking for you

Idc if anyone listens to what I say lol

I’m just helping lower rated warriors

Like yourself get better

[urban skiff]

lol, ok

I'm going to call it here, you're full of it.

[rancid granite]

where the source

[urban skiff]

It may very well be best. But I have no seen anyone yet supply proof that it's the best. It's just what everybody does and nobody contests it

People used to smear dung on wounds because they thought pus was illness leaving the body. So I'm very sceptical of doing what everybody does just because they do it.

[rancid granite]

what if it was magnusz or pikabooirl though

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Bum

[urban skiff]

Proof is proof. It doesn't matter who supplies it and it doesn't have to be perfect, just the best approximation.

[rancid granite]

thats why i love when r1 nerds are truthful and say stuff like "it FEELS better"

since pvp theres no simming right

[urban skiff]

I've been saying a healthy dose of crit is good for arms for ages now.

And you're right. Feel is very important in pvp

15% to 25% crit is significant.

But vers to 30% is more significant. But this community had a collective brain bleed when we went from dfs4 to twws1 and forgot we aren't hitting all dr caps similtaneously anymore

And now everybody is dumping vers to raise mastery and wondering why they feel squishy.

[sharp meteor]

I mean ye pvp is kind of feely

Hard to calculate value of crit for instance

Bad for output but two high rolls csb be a cd or kill

[copper fox]

Yea 20% haste 20% crit and 30% vers is ideal based on a few of the top warriors and they’ve been experimenting with success so I’ve shared it

[urban skiff]

Crit is the easiest stat to calculate after vers, and its benefits compound.

Crit is the more interesting stat to math in pvp.

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

Now trying to math out haste/mastery relationship for enh is hurts me head

[copper fox]

You playing totemic?

[urban skiff]

Crit increases your dps spread. In pvp we benefit from being unpredictable because it forces opponents to always take bigger measures than we put out.

[urban skiff]

Totemic + storm. No lava lash or anything else.

Just raw storm strike damage. It's fun as fuck and feels good.

[copper fox]

I just lvld my sham I’m about to start messing with that

[urban skiff]

I don't fear mages. I enjoy ferals. Rogues are a tasty treat

Sometimes i accidentally tabtarget a rdru and he disappears in a couple of globals

[urban skiff]

You're in for a ride. I promise.

[copper fox]

lol I’ll keep you updated on my success or failure

[urban skiff]

please do, i always root for my warrior brothers

[willow plover]

man after 1900 in 3s its like running into a brick wall

[pure hornet]

Agrred
Went high vers
Saw fernanez do it
Works like a charm

Since we do well xcept frost and other unblockable damage, vers is there to survive the frost/sub burst
From there is easy win

I think crit would be ok if buffed back to 75% damage increase, now at 50 there are better alternatives

But if you feel crit is nice or better, test,
And make your own

And i think magnus can afford lower vers and high mastery/haste because of magnus piloting

Mud could help here but my feel is he is an arms guy,

[ruby temple]

Have we been talking about fury or arms stats?

[pure hornet]

Both

[ruby temple]

Ah ok. For arms I like to go a bit extra mastery as I like doing more consistent damage vs hoping I roll a lottery slapper. It just feels better to me to have that consistency so I know when I can force a kill or know I don't have the juice to back off

One dude above is right, I think feely crafting in pvp is good to a point. If you feel more comfortable with the damage, survivability, or resource regen your gear is giving you'll probably perform better vs forcing yourself to copy some nerd #1-3 on murlok.io. but that's just my opinion.

[rancid granite]

it's neat seeing #1-3 have a bit different gear/talents too

[urban skiff]

arms mostly. Fury don't benefit much from crit because during critical windows it gets +50%

[ruby temple]

For fury Ive been going just mastery/verse with haste gems and enchants as I'm usually the kill target in my team

[ruby temple]

Yeah that seems especially common in bgblitz

[rancid granite]

makes it rough for me as rogue though all the top big brain sub rogues have different specs

lol

[ruby temple]

There's your first problem. Gotta play the best spec assass

[verbal ember]

How big an issue is it taking rend off your bars are replace with thunder clap? I know single target you get more damage from rend, but that probably only matters for the top dogs or?

[urban skiff]

No deal at all

[verbal ember]

Thank god for that. Thanks

[rancid granite]

but sub has shurikens and it makes me feel more like a ninja

[willow plover]

How do i learn what abilities share DR in gladius ?

[ruby temple]

But real ninjas would have actually relied on poisons more then Hollywood ninjutsu 😦

[urban skiff]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/pvpassistant

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-revenge-of-shinobi-shinobi-sega-mega-drive-genesis-gif-22676998

[ruby temple]

man gaming really use to be a wild west lmao. if this game released today marvel or toho would sue these dudes so hard their great-great-great grandkids would feel it

[urban skiff]

@copper fox fun fact. Thunder with travelling storms can knock enh exactly so far away their stun ends before they make it back

fuck low rated is fun

[willow plover]

He does it again

[willow plover]

haha

[urban skiff]

had to put down a enh brother

but he was playing stormbringer, so tainted

[chilly magnet]

Arms col does better with crit.

It feels good getting high stacks of might up.

[urban skiff]

remind me again how crit helps with stacks

I haven't played arms since shadowlands s3

[chilly magnet]

You get double stacks with ms crit

So you build much faster

[urban skiff]

oh right

[willow plover]

In details when i faced another warrior in arena can i see order of ability in order to compare how he made more damage than me or what is the best way to analyze how another player performed?

[worthy fern]

@willow plover you can look at details to see, how many of each ability was used, buff uptime, dmg uptime etc

But you can’t see in what order he pressed I don’t think

[willow plover]

for some reason i cannot see buff uptime on my enemy

[worthy fern]

Hmm I can’t check atm

But I think you can

Maybe it’s only
Your own

[elfin wharf]

hey guys, im looking for a pvp community but cant seem to find one

do you guys have any recommendations? I am trying to learn to do arenas

[urban skiff]

no, but if you download trufiGCD it'll show what everyone is doing in realtime

I use Details!: Event Tracker

[urban skiff]

I'll take any invites as well

I'm a dumbass with a heart of ass

[silk hamlet]

Fellow warrior brothers, as warriors, what would you recommend my next PvP alt be?

[urban skiff]

enhancement

hands down

if you like the idea of SMF thane but hate how warrior did it, Go play totemic + storm build

[silk hamlet]

You think so? I just feel like that is insane button bloat compared to simple zug?

[rancid granite]

outlaw rogue for if fury was too slow for you :)

[urban skiff]

If i was using a 2h instead of dualwielding this would be playing exactly like old windfury shaman in vanilla

[urban skiff]

i literally just mash stormstrike

[urban skiff]

@willow plover tell our brother how little utility I use

[silk hamlet]

Hahah ok definitely in consideration

[urban skiff]

literally a better version of frenzied regen

[silk hamlet]

Was thinking maybe a hunter for the simple ranged zug life too.

[urban skiff]

literally a better version of arms defensive idk

[silk hamlet]

Can you use that in stun?

[urban skiff]

dstance

[urban skiff]

nah, but you can use

[brisk meadow]

I swear people in this discord play anything but warrior

[urban skiff]

warrior still too good

so I went shaman this season

[brisk meadow]

[urban skiff]

still gonna grab the 1800

[silk hamlet]

Lmao no brother I’m warrior for life but right now with conq cap I’m looking to
Branch out

[brisk meadow]

gotta do it sometimes

everytime I look into this channel it's never related to either warrior or PvP

😂

[silk hamlet]

Was thinking huntard is like the ranged zug no?

[brisk meadow]

BM for sure

just jerk it and win

[silk hamlet]

Haha I feel that it’s usually
Enhance or ret lmao

[sharp meteor]

Enh?

[analog cloud]

hello guys how u handle when warrior is 24/7 full target ?? i die instant in solo shuffle.... even when i play in def stance

[rancid granite]

kill them before they kill you

heroicly leap away if need be

and pray

big 3

[silk hamlet]

If barbarian is slotted I usually los the hell outta them

But yes thoughts and prayers also key

[amber heron]

@analog cloud what spec r u

If your dying a lot you could consider running a BM trinket

and putting on more versatilty

and yea los when you have nothing major to press

let your healer recover

if you see your healer is in cc, get the addon "that says YOUR HEALER IS IN CC"

that way you know your about to get fucking destroyed

otherwise its probabliy a skill issue

[urban skiff]

i kill the warrior faster

[amber heron]

also warrior is kind of just averge rn

[urban skiff]

Warrior is really good right now. Come wednesday warrior is going to be amazing

[amber heron]

I wish arms warrior got something unique from other melee

[urban skiff]

sharpen blade is very unique and stronk

almost spec defining

[amber heron]

yea true

[analog cloud]

playing furry. ok maybe its my fault when i yolo push and die

[amber heron]

yea dude u cant just like be at 1200 rating

and ur healer is in cc

and ur taking 500k dps

u have to give ur healer some slack bro lmao

CC is really heavy rn on the healer they only have a couple globals to heal u back to full with their instant cast heals

[analog cloud]

i main hunter and i win my games by cc enemys but warrior is not good at cc. just wonder why i cant carry my games. i really thought its healers job to dont let me die

[amber heron]

its a 50/50

relationship

usually when the healer is not in cc, he should press cooldowns

and when he is in cc, you should press your cooldowns

[analog cloud]

and as hunter i have more deff CD hard to die when healer is in cc

[amber heron]

yea hunter is very tanky now

suprisingly

[analog cloud]

just wonder why with hunter i play on 1900 rating and with warrior hard stuck 1400

[amber heron]

@urban skiff doesnt fury have 36% ms

all the time

[urban skiff]

no

[amber heron]

@analog cloud is your gear the same?

some lobbies maybe are class dependent

[analog cloud]

no. hunter is full geared. warrior mostly honor

[sharp meteor]

Because hunter is better and easier.

[urban skiff]

fury has 12%, then 24%, then 36%, then it expires and only then can you go back to 12%

[amber heron]

ok so your warrior is a fresh characrter and your wodnierng why your getting blasted ?

??????

@urban skiff arms has what

20% all the time?

adn 50% on sharpen for maybe 6 sec

[urban skiff]

correct

[amber heron]

you dont have as much uptime on arms tho as u do fury

[urban skiff]

fury with full uptime could have average of somewhere between 24% and 36%

[amber heron]

ofc depends on lobbby

idk arms just does less then other meele

[urban skiff]

it's amazing people don't talk more about it. All our damage and all our partners' damage takes up to 36% more healing to counter. That's a big deal.

[analog cloud]

1400 in solo shuffle is not so high rating. is this game gear over skill?

[amber heron]

yes

gear is very important

dont let anyone tell u otherwise

unless there is like some game mode that scales the gear

which i dont think it does

[analog cloud]

kk

[amber heron]

Does anyone know if gear scales in arena?

idk how u would even check that

[analog cloud]

in skirmish u scale when u have no pvp gear

[pure hornet]

Warrior you can hardstuck 2100 maibe
Untill 1900 you can drop head on keyboard and if you dont win then smtng is extremly wrong

[urban skiff]

whenever you mouse over items you're wearing in content, it will say "item level 600 (546)" if it's ilvl 546 scaled up to 600

[amber heron]

yea but idk i dont trust blizzard

do u know for a fact that in arena it scales

there whole game is untrustwory

1 day goes by and Bm hunter does like 500% increased damage

[rancid granite]

just do non-rated for a day and get full gear np

[willow plover]

you need to watch what cds enemy press and in some cases dstance and wall is just not enough and have to get in new position so look to intervene or los / run around pillars.. Warrior especially fury is not a bruiser

warrior is just different to hunter in current meta, i feel like hunter desnt get focused as much as fury warriors so you have to play this real weird playstyle as warrior right now to make it work especially on lower ratings

I dont know much about hunter but warrior cant do much alone u need a team behind u, hunter maybe have more freedom to do stuff

[willow plover]

I dont agree at all

Last week maybe but this week its not that simple

[pure hornet]

I dunno
I usually go 2k rating just pressing w key,
Afther 2.2 stuff needs knowledge and involvement.
But ntill 1900 even i managed on my first pvp season, years ago
And i’m old and dumb.
I was not talking about last week

Any class any season in general
Maibe harder on classes with complex setup

[fierce elm]

This is an extreme oversimplification and not realistic for each and every one

[wheat jay]

do dmg, use defensives

[fierce elm]

there, I gave you a little warning

[willow plover]

I dropped from 1900 to 1800 this week in shuffle and im 2.2 in 2s and 2k in 3s rn i find shuffle being extremely hard rn

[wheat jay]

dont line your healer

done

[fierce elm]

So yeah

You shouldn't be hardstuck at any rating if you are good enough to reach higher

thats just how it works

[spice hornet]

Shuffle is hard as a warr rn

[lavish quest]

I'm hardstuck because I can't convince myself to queue

Halp

[fierce elm]

thats just called PvP sucking dick

[willow plover]

I wouldnt call myself hardstuck its just that its very lobby dependant right now

[lavish quest]

I'm still 1800 in solos cause I haven't queued one in weeks

[fierce elm]

because it fucking blows lmao

[willow plover]

it really does

[lavish quest]

Tru. Not allowed to play arena as war anyways

I don't consider being rooted and never hitting something playing

[fierce elm]

Its garbanzo gameplay for everyone

[willow plover]

i think if it was the case that 50% lobby are good / bad for warr its fine but its more like 90% of lobby are bad for warr rn

[fierce elm]

90% of lobbies are bad for everyone lmao

100% of lobbies are miserable for everyone

[willow plover]

nah

[vital breach]

90% ? What is good lobby for war

[fierce elm]

There is nobody who thinks this season is good

its w a c k

Yall doomposting warriors, I am doomposting PvP in general

[willow plover]

anything that u can hit is good lobby but most u cant have uptime rn

i like going vs lock or sp

[vital breach]

So every melee except feral is great lobby xD

[willow plover]

ferals are also kinda free imo

[fierce elm]

Rogue should dumpster you too unfortunately

[wheat jay]

i dont think there's anyone who is fairly knowledgeable about pvp saying its a good season

[fierce elm]

and probably ret fucks you up as well due to utility

what else we got

[willow plover]

yeah if there is rogue in lobby u cant play also

[fierce elm]

Enhance K E K W

[lavish quest]

4 wars (no prot) is a pretty good lobby for war. That's about it for the list

[fierce elm]

DK is probably better as well in SS

so what we got left

a mirror warrior?

[wheat jay]

are we talking about shuffle and who fucks on warr?

[willow plover]

what are u listing?

[vital breach]

Y

[fierce elm]

Stuff that outright feels terrible to face lmao

[wheat jay]

as arms?

[fierce elm]

In terms of ranged, all of them

so 4 warriors and hopefully not a hpala healer

[wheat jay]

is there a single thing you like facing on warr?

[willow plover]

Nice classes to face is pretty simple, sp, lock, druid, warrior, enha

[wheat jay]

everything is dog

[lavish quest]

What are good lobbies for war

[vital breach]

Idk i queued today vs enh/ele/frost and i went 5.1, hmm maybe because it was 0cr xDD

[wheat jay]

well, some lobbies are good

but none are fun

[lavish quest]

You just have to be the best warrior. The alpha.

[fierce elm]

lmao

4 warriors and 2 non-hpala healers

goated lobby

[willow plover]

oh

[wheat jay]

prot in m+"?

[lavish quest]

That's what I do ye

[willow plover]

and if u have mw healer on ur team its also shit lobby

[lavish quest]

I can't trust others with that kind of responsibility so...

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[vital breach]

Smf fury ?

[fierce elm]

So 4 warriors, not MW or Hpala as healers

[willow plover]

hpala is fine imo

[wheat jay]

warr kinda shits on sub rogue, doesnt it?

[fierce elm]

📉

[lavish quest]

Umm. Wut, are you throwing?

[fierce elm]

probably not in SS

[wheat jay]

i mean, also in ss

you can HARD deny a rogue

[fierce elm]

any sort of dependable huge CC chain gets mad value

even if it does nothing

[willow plover]

u cant fucking move against rogues

[fierce elm]

While you can also not move lmao

[lavish quest]

If your shaft doesn't require at least 2 hands, what are you even doing here?

[willow plover]

its a walking simmulator

[fierce elm]

my shaft is 0.3 hands long

[willow plover]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-gif-23739235

this is warrior in arena

just walking

[haughty jewel]

run frenzied enrage

then you wil speed walk

[vital breach]

I mean my shaft is made to be much bigger for 1 hander

[lavish quest]

Nah, hpal in all war lobby would be 6 - 0

Unless double hpal

[willow plover]

i mean i like hpal on my team

[lavish quest]

The facts ain't checkin

[fierce elm]

who wins, a healer with endless stops/reductions and endless invulnerables against physical damage

or one poor misteaver kek

[vital breach]

Mistweaver has mystical powers or smth

[lavish quest]

U know how shuffle works? They on your team half the time, you fight them the other half

[fierce elm]

with one also having spammable rep

[willow plover]

really? wtf

[vital breach]

Lol i though shuffle is m+ mode

[willow plover]

if i were just better at playing games i would just play rogue tbh

[lavish quest]

You never noticed you playwith both heals?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[sharp meteor]

It is.

[willow plover]

ofc i know u play with both heals i just stated generally that i like hpala healers i think we talked about different things

[quaint ruin]

2set or 4set as fury?

[rancid granite]

'hello all, can anybody please tell me what the consensus is on 2set vs 4set for fury? thank you"

[quaint ruin]

Are u ok?

[green wharf]

i think this question was asked so much that it needs to be pinned

but yeah 2set, 4 seems like not good enough

[rancid granite]

you were supposed to make him ask nicely

[green wharf]

im not a mod

[rancid granite]

its for his own benefit not the discords!

[quaint ruin]

Dude stop being cringe

[quaint ruin]

Yeah i saw a few with 4set but looks like the majority is playing 2set. thx

[rancid granite]

its not cringe to be polite but ok

but yeah 2set :)

[lavish quest]

Yeah, maybe you aren't understanding why hpal would be bad for all war lobby then lol (because it would heavily sway all the warriors going 3-3 as the hpal would have a strong shot at 6-0)

[copper fox]

As a warrior, seeing hpal in your lobby is worst case scenario

[sharp meteor]

Prot buffies.

[green wharf]

im starving for more execute brothers

[bold yarrow]

is enhance bugged rn?

[verbal tangle]

Shaman is always bugged

it's just a matter of how buggerd

[bold yarrow]

just got hit with 7 lightning bolts in less than 1 global

did over 3m damage

actually killed me and the healer at the same time

seemed like cheat?

[green wharf]

ele or enhanc?

ele are quite busted

[urban skiff]

start swinging after just joining the discord is definitely a tactic.

[urban skiff]

enh is not bugged, just awesome

[green wharf]

show me again your totemic spec tree zec

gonna ditch tormbringer for a bit

[urban skiff]

sec

Remember i'm illegally dumb

[green wharf]

im not diagonsed neither

[urban skiff]

I'll try and mark my flex points asd well

[green wharf]

[urban skiff]

rotation is:

1. Storm strike

also forgot to mark that technically ascendance is also a flex point but within itself betweebn ascendance and deep rooted elements

[green wharf]

red nodes

i hate that some hero specs need you to get a specific talent

[green wharf]

interesting, so no lava lash nodes besides the first ones

i always assumed they were priority

[urban skiff]

since stormstrike got 2 charges I basically don't have globals for anything else

Ice strike is so close to being a dead talent to me as well

Or rather, it is, but having frost strike sometimes hit a bit harder is the best I can do

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ziFCgC7iwR8?feature=share

This is how it plays

zybak has a few guides that are really good and still relevant