pvp

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

xD

ah right lets not forget ele and enh with their IDENTICAL kit

[green wharf]

DH deserves the trashcan, just like evokers

[wheat jay]

some say that about warrior

it is what it is

i look at them objectively

[green wharf]

i mean, they kinda have, same defense cd, same dash or lil wind jump

its not like blizz would make a range DH less braindead than already is

[wheat jay]

dh harder to play than warr tho

[lavish quest]

But they dum

[wheat jay]

dmg wise

lets look at fury

priority rotation

0 buffs to look at

0 things to line properly

just zug zug

arms you also do rotation and that's all

you need stun for demolish

done

dh you at least have some buffs and short duration windows to do dmg on

soooooo, ye

[lavish quest]

The difficult of warrior isn't from the dmg tho. It's coming to the realization you play the handicap class

[wheat jay]

relax

you cant touch shit on dh either and it has 7s cd on fel rush lmao

everything kites you on it too

[lavish quest]

Burn ranged to the ground

[chilly magnet]

Dh does very good dmg

[green wharf]

#bringbackexecutedash

[chilly magnet]

Charge should work like shields charge

Why have a deadzone?

Makes no sense

[orchid badge]

this is so fking dumb

win 1 rating lose 19

[digital dawn]

which piece of gear should i craft first for arms?

[sharp meteor]

Shield charge should make you immune to all cc

and not randomly fail to work 30% of the time

[orchid badge]

cant dragon charge with flag

monk can fly across the map with flag

[green wharf]

is this serious

lmao

[wheat jay]

and yet its one of the worst specs now

afaik

2s its dogshit

3s its below fucking enh xD

shuffle its bad

blitz somehow its decent

[green wharf]

enh is goated from what i heard

[wheat jay]

no

its not

[green wharf]

lots of fury rerolling enh

[wheat jay]

maybe due to rework coming in 3 days

[stone garnet]

A 2H with ascension + boots or bracers with the embellishment that doubles it isn't bad. I went with Neck, Rings x2 with Focus lens. And if I had to do it again, I would probably do Ring + Boots with stats I want. The Vers you get from Conq Rings and Neck is really good.

[orchid badge]

im playing prot in blitz 🙂

[green wharf]

dunno, only interaction i had with enh was wpvp, and i soloed a vengeance dh and a frostdk the other day, only using honor set

it has some insane proc damage

i think the rework will fix some bloat skill issue

[digital dawn]

thank you!

[dense herald]

?

u need to know should u press rb,bt or onslaught

[wheat jay]

ah right

i forgot about other things we press on CD

[dense herald]

dh is not harder than warrior

[wheat jay]

it is harder to do proper dmg on

100%

well i guess the discussion isnt about harder

but easier since very class is easy

and warr is easier

[sharp meteor]

death taxes and wow players arguing over which fisher price spec is marginally harder to do dmg on

[digital dawn]

pretty much yea

[echo garden]

is it a good idea to make a algari ring and put an emb on it?

still using 2nd pve ring

[sharp meteor]

Sure.

[urban skiff]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sh5iVx-d1uY?feature=share

Why is this so funny

[echo garden]

whats a good emb for pvp

[urban skiff]

Some people doing double lens now

[green wharf]

See, enh does some insane proc damage

i was surprised myself

[urban skiff]

I know, I've been touting enh for months now

The true SMF Thane build

Bro I just want to play Enh all day every day

But I also want to work out and I also want to cuddle with the wife and I also want to play BG3 for 16 hours a day

So idk

[frosty flower]

Is this where he lost to frost dk enhance?

[green wharf]

I would main enh if i could use one 2h

never played classic, but that was a dream

[orchid badge]

17-13 this week and i lost 120 rating 😄 fuck blizzard

[green wharf]

im an one weapon enjoyer myself

[urban skiff]

i want to say it's sniping his stream from a shuffle

[urban skiff]

I played 2h enh. Current build is very very similar to that, except aesthetics.

Spam stormstrike, get big chunky procs

[pure hornet]

You should try BG2

[urban skiff]

I lived bg1, bg2, planescape torment, neverwinter nights, etc.

When i played bg1 first, the drive didn't have enough space for full game install. So we had to install with the cd for act1 first. Then when swapping act we had to agree to install the transition files. Save in the new act, uninstall and reinstall for the new act.

Repeat for each act.

[pure hornet]

Wow nice
I love bg1 planescape nvm
Good old times

Ill be honest when diablo 2 came out i played the life out of it too

[urban skiff]

I still have the original box and discs somewhere. You know the old A4 sized full print cardboard boxes.

Same. Diablo1+hellfire into d2

[pure hornet]

And there was this nice game too: vampire bloodlines
Art

D2 was nices

Quake 3 too
Unreal tournament.. man that was the epic games time

[urban skiff]

Yup. I couldn't find redemption when i discovered VtM. Finally found it at a library and one of the cds was corrupt or scratched.

[pure hornet]

Now games seem lifeless

[urban skiff]

But bloodlines is a masterpiece.

Hearing tiny whispers that larian might pick up the current unfinished VtM game.

[pure hornet]

I remember VtM was running slow on my pc but still enjoyed it

Finally sold a kidney and bough a video board

VtM had this weird athmosfere to it

Could look all day at jannette too

[urban skiff]

Except bg3. It's not just my goty. It's my game of the decade. Neverwinter nights was previous pick and planescape torment before that.

[pure hornet]

Planescape rules
I dont like bg3 as much as bg 2

Seems more dumbed down for masses

Thief was op is bg
Wizard too

[urban skiff]

Jeanette voiced by lady who also voiced female wizard in bg3 and azula from avatar. She's extremely popular.

[urban skiff]

It's 5e. Not bg3's fault that the current edition is simplified

[dense herald]

druid was saying if u didnt pick pick up orbs u were boosted

[pure hornet]

Didnt know that
But janette sure had some magic

[dense herald]

he didnt pick up a single orb

[urban skiff]

I always make sure to get the most points, then say anyone under 50ish points are dead weights.

Something about that phrase seems to wake people up.

[rancid granite]

lmao at this

also along side bg and those games

pillars of eternity is amazing

[pure hornet]

Never played it

Anyone here ever played dungeon lords?

Was a nice game
Could of been a awesome mmo

[chilly pivot]

is fury stil the best for pvp this week?

[violet fossil]

feral prolly

shadow

[lavish quest]

If he just adds one R, he's golden

[urban skiff]

Pillars of eternity, Torment tides of numenera, Tyranny

There are so many great CRPGs these days and they're timeless

[pure hornet]

Yeah

[rancid granite]

timeless cause theyre endlessly long

manual is as big of a book as the hobbit is

[violet fossil]

I saw that game as a kid

The box cover for it

Never knew what it was lmao

[idle falcon]

what's your go-to build for fury guys

[urban skiff]

SMF thane

I am very popular in here

[idle falcon]

please never speak again

[urban skiff]

I mean i hit rank 34 in world with it so

although seramate insists it's only 35

[restive pasture]

arms in awc

[urban skiff]

Confirmed arms is GOAT

[rancid granite]

i clicked on it 5mins ago; there was a fury and he died quickly

ah laros is swapping to colossus arms

[fierce elm]

aight how fast are they losing

[rancid granite]

premonitions

[urban skiff]

They don't have to last long. They just have to last longer than the FOTM rerollers when they realize feral isn't easy to reroll to

Which admittedly isn't very long

[urban skiff]

got a link anywhere? Where do I watch it?

[fierce elm]

twitch

https://www.twitch.tv/warcraft dumbo boomer

he swapped back to fury lmao

and they are gonna lose 3-0

w e i r d

[urban skiff]

Should give prot a try

Actually why is F-tier playing without Enh?

[lavish quest]

bUt WaRrIoR's A-tIeR

[urban skiff]

Pika dropping like a rock

GOodbye laros

[rancid granite]

the casters amaze me more than the players ngl theyre inhuman

[urban skiff]

You know it's over when pika starts ADADADADing

[lavish quest]

Their ability to use such reckless OPness. Incredible!

[urban skiff]

It's his victory dance

[fierce elm]

weird lmao

[urban skiff]

I mean wArRiOr BaD and all, but still a warrior was in top3 at AWC

many classes aren't

[copper fox]

Laros is the only top warrior period in na lol

[lavish quest]

Top 3 losers?

[copper fox]

Not a good metric

He barely played warrior for their awc points

[rancid granite]

AWC isn't the same WoW we play but it'd still be cool to see a warrior stompin'

[lavish quest]

Yeah, it's not the same. It's where the capabilities of the classes are tested even further

And warrior just ain't got it

[copper fox]

Yea especially considering every time laros warrior was subbed in they lost lol

Ok not every time but almost

[languid hornet]

how to acquire pvp tier, if catalyst and achievement token are wasted on pve?

[lavish quest]

You don't

[fierce elm]

You can get one piece without catalyst

thats it

[languid hornet]

well that sucks

[lavish quest]

He said he wasted that too

[fierce elm]

yeah nvm

you cant

[lavish quest]

Actually

Make another warrior

Ez

[languid hornet]

I'm suffering enough having 1 and only character)

thx for the info

[rancid granite]

you just wait for more

they keep comin right

[urban skiff]

yep

[wheat jay]

You get one on reset

[fierce elm]

Yeah after this it should be easy to use them

unless you are me and stupid

[rancid granite]

kinda my plan but backwards ill gear pve next we got time

[languid hornet]

it would be good to have the opportunity to play both pve and pvp tiers, and not take one from other
those that are coming are still reserved for pve myth pieces

[fierce elm]

Yep, thats what we want

[lavish quest]

They took baby steps on that with removing pvp from vault

Now they just need to put pvp tier on vendor

[languid hornet]

great, it means that it will happen shortly, in 12.0 or 13.0

[rancid granite]

they got the whole trio expac lined out

they need to pace theirselves

so expac 2 will be better np

[violet fossil]

it’s not like it’s the best or anything

not really missing out

[languid hornet]

I want to use everything I can to compensate for my shitty skills

[green wharf]

yeah, i don't like dual welding aesthetic, every dude in fiction have their one named weapon, never saw someone with two

[rancid granite]

also, musashi???

LLOYD from tales of symphonia???

arthur dayne from game of thrones who rekt like 1v5 til a sub rogue ganked him

the agni & rudra swords from DMC3

i can think of more..

[green wharf]

i only remember the DMC3 ones, but its not his main weapon, is his side weapon for funsies

his main weapon was rebellion

like, Arthur had Excalibur, Elric of Melnibone had stormbringer, Arthas had Frostmourne, Grom/Garrosh had Gorehowl, Thrall had doomhammer, Guts have the dragonslayer, so on and so on

all the chads have just one weapon

[rancid granite]

yeah i can name much more of just one 2h'er

im sad i could only come up with like 2 lmao

i just go by chrono

thus simple katana

[green wharf]

thats why i wanted 2h shamy, would be dope as well

[chilly magnet]

Hmm what's the hardest spec rogue to beat. I just fought one that just didn't seem to die.

[green wharf]

sub i think?

[bold yarrow]

in 2s what the hell are you supposed to do versus a monk

seems like they just eat your damage

[green wharf]

guys, i solo a fury war with a shammy honor gear, are we rly that bad?

[bold yarrow]

yes

also, I hate thunderous roar

shit feels like a wc3 custom map made up ability for a sheep or something

i refuse to spec it from now on

[amber heron]

@bold yarrow

the more u play wow

the more u realize warrior does nothign special

and is outclassed by every other melee

u cant beat other specs in 2v2

its not possible unless ur a baby bitch like magnus who has a pocket r1 healer that literally does 500k dps with him and ccs the other healer prefectly

wheenver he plays vs another ww, asas rogue, or any melee that has just as much pressure as warrior and better defensives, its gg.

[bold yarrow]

Warr seems to have one good thing and that's super random moments of omega crits, but they still don't really compare to even like warlock

I got hit by a maleific rupture today for 6.01M and I wasn't even fully dotted up lol

[amber heron]

@bold yarrow doesnt ww get omega crits with rising sun kick ?

[bold yarrow]

Sure I guess but I don't think other classes having it means we can't have it too

[amber heron]

no im saying warrior doesnt offer antyhgin special

to the melee pool

the analogy is basically like your a ww2 style military in ww3

your fighting with outdated shit

oh warrior has 2 target cleave, well, frost dk does it better

oh warrior has a stun, well rogues have 10

oh warrior has a fear, well so does dh

[bold yarrow]

ya, I guess I'd just rather play warrior though. Zug zug

[amber heron]

OH BUT WARRIOR has intervent

well, paladin has sanc

literally name anything uniqute to warrior, I Will wait

[green wharf]

its sad cause arms depend on ti to feel even more shit

[bold yarrow]

I dont think you need it, at least not in arena

Seems like the spear is better

Reliably hits for the same dmg. Roots players and cant be dispelled

Arms specifically just spends most 2s games getting kited

[amber heron]

spear = static field totem for enh

damn

[bold yarrow]

Whenever i look at my damage breakdown my bleeds are nowhere near the top and are generally somewhat inconsequential

It’s always MS / Execute / Overpower / Bladestorm / then bleeds

[green wharf]

it doe good damage and increase bleed from MW and rend, it seems like mandatory

without that pressure i dunno if you can finish off, but well

[green wharf]

mobility is so bad, it sad we still only have charge and heroic leap and even then isn't enough with so much slow and roots

[bold yarrow]

Problem is just with every class being able to get away from you it doesn’t matter what pressure you put

[green wharf]

correct me ifm wrong, but those skills are a thing since vanilla right?

[bold yarrow]

The spear at least makes them trade a defensive to get away

[green wharf]

i dream the day i don't need to spec into rend or into bleeds

[bold yarrow]

I’m convinced that Warrior is fine if your healer is a total chad regardless of spec

Once you get into dampening (if you can) the damage gets scarier for them

[sharp meteor]

Not really.

Like, somebody gotta die in damp but warrior isn't really favored.

[bold yarrow]

Ignore pain kind of helps offset the dampening doesn’t it?

Someone should force devs at blizzard to duel with a warrior for a day tho

[zenith marlin]

Oh god yes

Just bare phatt fkn hits

And none of that feral druid shit

I just wanna mortal strike a mf for 4M

[tiny dagger]

Welp i gave arms a good run but i just ..... i just cant anymore . im done\

[cobalt gale]

It’s great u probably got the wrong stats

[fierce elm]

yeah

totally great

[lavish quest]

Would be cool if we stopped having people saying warrior is great because they play at 1200 and beat a mage once who was playing with one hand jerkin it, backpedaling, never binded blink, and only won because the mage also DC'd.

[urban nacelle]

the wawa warrior bad womp womp are cut from the same cloth

[lavish quest]

But one's observational

🤔

[fickle forge]

I one shotted this rogue while leveling, arms is great

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905959827891712050/1297667484140179586/image.png?ex=67176b45&is=671619c5&hm=c851f49f550c3aa865ef755c4aeb94932f47376b74dbebe7daf2573ab48a1397&

[wheat jay]

If not for bop hed have won, 0.1s away from win sadge

[green wharf]

seems balanced

[fickle forge]

Now was that because of Laros or Dorito though

[wheat jay]

Both

Absterge cast bop before 3rd of demolish

If that, and ms crit

Hed just win there

[fickle forge]

Hpala meta brother

[wheat jay]

Yep

Thats why I hate it

No other healer can just do a "SIKE YOU DON'T" like 5 times every game

Least skillful meta in the game

[lavish quest]

That's looking a bit high, arms could use a nerf

[green wharf]

they already nerfed on tuesday

[fickle forge]

Hpala can do it twice

To a select few specs

Lmao

Think the SP/affli cares about your BoP?

[wheat jay]

It is dogshit

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

My point still stands

Terrible design

Dog tier gameplay

[lavish quest]

Rsham is supposed to be the healer that counters casters. When's rsham getting spell bop x2?

[wheat jay]

Nah thats ret paladin with spellwarding

[fierce elm]

Yeah unfortunately we dont

[fickle forge]

Ret pala counts deaths

[wheat jay]

No spec plays normally now

Sub rogue top dmg is a dot

Survi hunter doesnt do setups goes full in for consistent dmg

Feral is immortal

Lock does whatever the fuck lock does, noone knows

Warrior is a setup burst class with demolish xD

[lavish quest]

When we getting stealth?

[green wharf]

windwalk from wc3 when?!?

[lavish quest]

Should have been a hero talent tree but apparently it didn't fit the fantasy. That they already made 25 years ago

[green wharf]

Blademaster? nah let make slayer, so original

[gaunt notch]

if they gave blademaster poeple would be asking where mirror image was

[lavish quest]

I'm failing to see the issue

[gaunt notch]

i just mean people would just be asking for the next thing really

[wheat jay]

People would call it monk from wish

[lavish quest]

Give us the images, and a hella phatty MS out of stealth

Ez

[wheat jay]

So rogue

[lavish quest]

Now we're just a warrior from wish.

[fierce elm]

So like Monk but better

[lavish quest]

Nah, blademaster 😎

[fierce elm]

also considering how bugged SEF is I would not wish for that

[wheat jay]

Remember in awc how one clone soloed a lock through wall in one global?

Fun times

[fierce elm]

No I dont watch AWC

Thats some nerd shit

[green wharf]

jusst give then

mages had no business stealing it

[rancid granite]

you kinda say they don't do anything special while simultaneously saying they have abilities from every other class......... sounds pretty unique to me

did a good job hyping me up to play more warrior

[green wharf]

[lavish quest]

It's more every other class has our abilities. But better.

[rancid granite]

yeah but warrior has all'm in one

he named one ability from every class and related it to warrior so warrior takin abilities from every class all in one

Master of war blah blah

[green wharf]

already heard of the saying, “jack of all trades, master of none'

thats warrior

except they aren't jack of all trades either

[fierce elm]

jack of no trades, master of even less?

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

that sums up

its sad when warlock netherward function better than our spell reflection

and warlock is already a crap class overall

[rancid granite]

well yeah but it sounds better master of being the jack of all trades 🫡

fits the rp well

master of leg day being able to heroic leap so far

[fickle forge]

Warrior used to have insane utility

[green wharf]

problem is that warrior should not be the jack of all trades

[fickle forge]

But the meta doesn't suit that at all

WoW PvP now is just about doing more damage than your enemies

[green wharf]

if it wasn't by batle shout i don't think anyone would bring warrior to do content

[green wharf]

you would think, a meta that is all about doing more damage, warrior would be the top most suited class

[fickle forge]

Yeah pointless when sub rogue outdps 80% of melees

The game is cooked

[rancid granite]

not everyone has 3 hands or 2 brains to play sub rogue though

i have 2 hands and 1/2 a brain trust me im outdps'ing nobody

[fickle forge]

Sub is braindead now though

Rupture = top the meter

[rancid granite]

i try to spread rupture yeah but maybe im doing something wrong

the burst is fun when you get the tekken type skill sequence right

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-combo-eddy-gif-21839298

[rancid granite]

YEAH lol

its how it feels lmao

[green wharf]

my balls are in my hands now, that was close

[green wharf]

there are some insane sub rogues that can melt you down easily, dunno how they do it

but its just a few of then

i myself don't like the shadow dance playstyle

[rancid granite]

its getting even more rogue-y tomorrow

maybe a bit easier

maybe worse who knows

[fickle forge]

Sub rogue still has a skill ceiling

[fierce elm]

that is a lie from Big Rogue

[fickle forge]

But it's like playing feral druid with a few extra steps

Why play any melee when feral outperforms the whole roster at everything

[rancid granite]

for fun, unless its for $$ tournaments

thats a furry thing wanting to play as cats

[green wharf]

bleed spec ykes

[fickle forge]

Ye straight up right

Feral has the best everything

[rancid granite]

for now* :D

[zinc tartan]

gouge breaks colosos smash

kekw

[rancid granite]

gotta zerker shout beforehand

😭

[bold yarrow]

We need some positivity guise

Its not all bad is it

We do get all the girls

[rancid granite]

some chad still played warrior in AWC

all the positive guys too busy having fun

its when someone gets stomped they go "you know what? i need to go on discord and complain and tell people im #done"

[wheat jay]

And lost all

[rancid granite]

lmao

wait didn't he win 1??

or did he actually lose every one

the 2 i saw he was the one to die too

[bold yarrow]

this isnt positive!!

[fierce elm]

its all bad

[bold yarrow]

😦

I have 5 80s and like warrior the most but it is objectively the hardest in pvp

reject meta builds is my new goal

maybe ill discover something that works

[pure hornet]

All 5 are warr?

I have only 4 but all warry
Could not force myself to play other classes

[bold yarrow]

disc priest
mm hunter
enh sham
havoc dh
arms warr

[lavish quest]

Woyer's good, trust

[rancid granite]

how many of us are on their level for it to matter though

[dark topaz]

i wish kotmongu damage would be the default

[fickle forge]

Laros did, because it's the only class he can play

Ans he got bodied about as hard as @elfin surge did during the Cata tourny

[lavish quest]

We don't have to be on his level for it to matter. We using the same tool dawg

If anything means it's even worse for us

[bold yarrow]

colossus should have avatar active as a passive

that would be cool / fun

just be a towering beast at all times

[lavish quest]

You get the size increase already

[bold yarrow]

not in the pants

[lavish quest]

Speak for yourself

Avatar shouldn't break roots tho, should be a freedom for the duration

:)

[bold yarrow]

fax

why doesn't anyone spec bitter immunity?

[fierce elm]

because it sucks

[rancid granite]

idk it seems the top awc/tournament players play a different game and are good enough to utilize that 1% difference

same as other games

I get like the c/d/f tier just being awful though WoW seems to have a bigger gap in balance than other games

just cause it's not purely a pvp game

meta / playable / don't bother is the real tier list

idk the point I'm making other than it's entertaining seeing the dramatic qq'ers cause you know they just got done getting stomped lol

[fickle forge]

All of us are on a level for it to matter

Unless we're talking like sub-1600

Like you load up 3s, this is what you're gonna face

[lavish quest]

I mean it's whatever people will just reroll when it's bad enough

[bold yarrow]

what site is that?

[fickle forge]

checkpvp

[lavish quest]

Just insisting warrior is always fine because it has an auto attack is lame

[bold yarrow]

help! Im a plate class who just died to an ass rogue in 4 seconds!

[rancid granite]

ya im still getting used to the balance lol

same meta talk in other games but the balance is so much better

[fickle forge]

The game just isn't meant for PvP

You can play what's meta, or suffer really

[rancid granite]

yeah

[lavish quest]

When will they suffer as I have?

https://tenor.com/view/ramattra-overwatch-overwatch2-overwatch-ramattra-ram-gif-2047828917409474274

[pure hornet]

Feral and frost is obscene
Evo starts to annoy too

[halcyon ocean]

Prevoker needs to be nerfed into the fcking ground

[pure hornet]

Ye
They starting to be annoying as frost/feral

[narrow compass]

to be fair, feral sucked ass all of Df s4 right?

Exactly, they sucked that bad

solo shuffle they were almost a guarnateed kill.

[sharp meteor]

?

Feral was sick end of df

[narrow compass]

They were THE go to kill target in solo shuffle...

with the highest death rate

[sharp meteor]

Is that meant to mean anything

[narrow compass]

It means they rode the fucking struggle bus to and from school.

i wish I could pull up the stats

but they're wiped

[sharp meteor]

Feral was excellent all of Dragonflight.

[fickle forge]

So what

[narrow compass]

I dont think ive ever seen arms warrior representation this low...

[fickle forge]

We should make frost S+++ tier next season

It's struggle for a while ya'll

It's only fair

[narrow compass]

Im just trying to stay motivated until the end of the season.

Between 30 min queues for Solo, an inability to find consistent teammates for "real Arena" and the clusterfuck that is Blitz...Im finding myself just wanting to level other characters.

[sharp meteor]

We're only just sort of approaching the queue period.

Until now it's just kind of like gear and figure out what you wanna do phase of season.

Blizz backloads arena stuff so afking for a few months can feel boring but it's kind of optimal.

[narrow compass]

True! Im excited for that.

[rancid granite]

after missing on wotlk->sl im super excited for some classic stuff again

[narrow compass]

thats a big gap.

lots of great stuff

[rancid granite]

yeah farming mogs and stuff in previous expacs it seems i missed on a lot of good stuff

[narrow compass]

im def gonna grind out as many of the anniversary Tier 2 sets as I can

[cobalt mesa]

Does Fatal Mark work in pvp?

[urban skiff]

where enhance

guys the new skillcapped tier list is out. Blitz melee list

Looks like they turned it upside down somehow

[fickle forge]

Yes

[urban skiff]

You get a discount after the first set and another after the 2nd set

[willow plover]

wtf

[rancid granite]

skillcapped tier list out 1 day before the new patch

content :)

[urban skiff]

Yea so funny

it's almost like they staggered releases and suddenly realized it's tomorrow

[rancid granite]

such a big patch too lol

well idk how much other classes changing

rogue/pally tho

[fierce elm]

Ret will fall lower

its okay

[willow plover]

the patch is tomorrow? is it just the 20 anniversary timewalking or will they release new campaign for tww too ?

[fierce elm]

its an 11.0.5 patch

so no new campaign stuff

its anniversary and balancing stuff

[fickle forge]

Arms nerf tomorrow 😎

[willow plover]

Aight, still cool

[rancid granite]

dracthyr will make warrior S tier meta again right? pay2win?

[fierce elm]

totally

its so funny how both specs are middle of pack or bad in every gamemode

and they both get nerfed lmao

[fickle forge]

Can't wait for shamans to have a 5th knock

[willow plover]

U think dragon will be the new meta class?

i mean race

[fierce elm]

most likely

[willow plover]

reeaaally

[fierce elm]

Added CC is always nice

[fickle forge]

Can uwukers be shamans now? 🤔

[fierce elm]

Especially if its a non-DR cc

[willow plover]

wait what do u gain as racial with dracthyr ?

[fickle forge]

Knock up and away

[fierce elm]

Knockback+knockup

[willow plover]

like 2 spells?

[fickle forge]

Basically, PvP becomes worse

[fierce elm]

Yes

[willow plover]

but u wont be able to fly around right

[fierce elm]

nope

From what we have seen, there are going to be 0 shake ups in pvp lmao

[willow plover]

U mean its not gonna change much?

[fickle forge]

You're gonna be seeing a lot of lizards

[fierce elm]

Thats about it

[willow plover]

knockback and knockup doesnt sound worth swapping from orc

[fierce elm]

I wouldnt racechange for pvp either way

[fickle forge]

It's way better than orc

[fierce elm]

unless you are playing a stealth spec

[fickle forge]

2 more CCs is fat

We used to have specs whos whole CC kit was 2 DRs

[fierce elm]

But really, doubt much will change outside of lizards

[willow plover]

You are correct but they look god awful

imo prolly the worst looking race in the game

[fierce elm]

you can be perma human form

[fickle forge]

They are ye

[fierce elm]

Only evoker is forced into lizard form

[willow plover]

i mean even the human form looks ass imo

[orchid badge]

anyone tried full crit gems as arms?

[fickle forge]

Between all the shit that has been added to WoW

Evoker is the #1 thing I'd remove swiftly

[willow plover]

I was against pandaren back in mop but they have grown on me

they are kinda cool now

dobut i will feel the same abotu dragons tho

[lavish quest]

You only get 1

The other is gonna be evoker only

[fickle forge]

That's good at least

Can they be shamans though?

[lavish quest]

Don't remember, but that doesn't sound familiar

[fickle forge]

I'd just love to be knocked back 5 times in a row by 1 player

[lavish quest]

But the DR my friend

[fickle forge]

The "DR"

[sharp meteor]

I just gripped a guy to me, then another

and had my sham thunderstorm them both off

[fickle forge]

And then abom grip them

[sharp meteor]

then I spear into a guy who was recently vortexed and they walk out

[fickle forge]

You only apply knock DR with shit like storm or vortex

[lavish quest]

That's just how spear works tho

[fickle forge]

Static field, grip etc. don't go by any DRs

I don't think unleashed shield do either

[lavish quest]

I know static can DR with stuff

[fickle forge]

Kind of ye

Cause knock is a dumb af DR

If you vortex and then static, you can leave

[lavish quest]

They can only suck me off so much

[fickle forge]

But do it the other way and both work

[lavish quest]

And spear they can always just walk out

Truly a union's best friend

[fickle forge]

Only while on knock DR

Spear and static work the same

[wheat jay]

Played some dh today

And ye, playing warr is cancer compared to anything else lol

Dh actually easier to stick to target this season cuz you dont use throw glaive for dmg

[lavish quest]

Except for spear is bricked

[bold yarrow]

am I stuck at 1500 because of me or what

[wheat jay]

Yes

Answer is always you when its below 2100

[sharp meteor]

MMR in blitz dcesn't adjust for like 25 games.

Shuffle is also lower than usual right now.

[wheat jay]

Above certain rating you can blame meta or sth i dunno

[fickle forge]

Dead game

[bold yarrow]

there are like a handful of warriors above 2100 right now

like literally handful

right?

[zinc tartan]

when do we use demolish

at 10 stacks or situational

[fickle forge]

10 stacks

You can do 0 stacks in opener

[bold yarrow]

I switched to slayer because it does higher sustained damage but I liked demolish at open. It does still scare them and if you get a couple of lucky execute procs you can put them on their heels

[zinc tartan]

dude

demolish just deletes sometimes

[bold yarrow]

it gets canceled if they press s

[zinc tartan]

seems like peeps dont know what cancels it yet at lower mmr

[fickle forge]

Pre-CC

[bold yarrow]

wym? you just move two cms to cancel it

[zinc tartan]

nah chill its 8 yards

[bold yarrow]

and with the state of blizz servers they could teleport without even intentionally dodging it

[zinc tartan]

pop a shockwave or some

save bolt for heala

[bold yarrow]

I tried it again for a few matches and i still disagree lol, I don't think its worth having so much riding on an ability that gets canceled so easily

[urban skiff]

enh losing 2 builds. So before it was elementalist+totemic, elementalist+stormbringer, storm+totemic, storm+stormbringer.

Now it looks like elementalist+totemic or storm+stormbringer. I don't know if I'm a fan. Depends on how stronk stormbringer changes are.

[fickle forge]

Pre-CC

[rancid granite]

imagine having a class with so many options though

[urban skiff]

It only lasts for two more nights 😦

Either enh dream is dead or I'm going to be melting people's faces off completely

[rancid granite]

12 hrs remain then the day long update!

the touch grass time

[urban skiff]

They're even freeing up keybinds for me so I don't have to choose between three different coloured buttons that do the same thing

[urban skiff]

EU so I have two more nights

[rancid granite]

the freeing up keybinds is the best its kinda whats happening on rogue, kinda

maybe for average joes like me

[urban skiff]

Suits me fine, starting up new project at work and being responsible for 2m euro is scary

[rancid granite]

have fun with that lol

[urban skiff]

yeah I'm trying to but they won't let me spend it on anything fun

[fickle forge]

Enh has options because they're all F tier anyway

[bold yarrow]

guys i switched back to my dh and im eliminating warriors like they are critters

[rancid granite]

does it feel good though

[wheat jay]

Yes

I did too

[rancid granite]

😭

it's only fun when you're the warrior donking on another warrior

i mean if im vs one im still gonna say FOCUS THIS GUY but it wont feel great!

[wheat jay]

I had a game against fury/pres today in 2s

Man wasnt even close to doing any dmg

Cuz he sent all his cds into walls and not once swapped targets lol

[rancid granite]

lmao 😭

surprised he didn't come here to say warriors suck

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[cosmic bridge]

What’s best for warrior in 2’s atm? Arms/fury? colossus/slayer?

[fierce elm]

rerolling

[bold yarrow]

yeah

maybe warrior skill ceiling is just so high

but dh is so so much easier

i am effortlessly wrecking on dh in the same rating

granted my rating is low

[wheat jay]

Dh has decently high skill ceiling when it comes to purely doing max dmg

Rest is piss easy

[bold yarrow]

feral druid lol

what is going on

600k sustained dps

[keen sinew]

Hi, is there any food that gives you HP and it's usable in BG Blitz except the mage food?

[tidal rain]

does leeching fang work in pvp

[lavish quest]

We can't swap targets "Out of range"

Reeee

[wheat jay]

I WAS MELEE ALL THE TIME

[lavish quest]

But they weren't that's the point

😛

[cinder thorn]

omg me and a war just beat warlock and priest 😮

[green wharf]

its more a giraffe than a lizard tbh

[wheat jay]

Lmao ye

[cinder thorn]

you made me chuckle 😄

regardless, its ugly

I cant bear myself to play zoo characters

[green wharf]

i would play if they were like this

now THAT is a warrior body

or if i could pick tauren as visage, but meh, i think people will just pick for the glide

but i heard it was nerfed already

[cinder thorn]

if it was looking like a dragon maybe, but this lizard giraffe crap no

[sharp meteor]

For me it's the lack of mog support.

You've got to find shoulders and a belt that match the barber shop armor.

[green wharf]

if you had full mog, nothing would look good in those small shoulders and small head

all plate would look goofy

[rancid granite]

permanent human form is so neat for them at least

you can be ryu from breath of fire!

[bold yarrow]

I just played like 8 straight hours of pvp and i stayed the same rank the entire time

after awhile I started tallying how many glad players I faced in the 1500-1700 range

it was almost all of my losses

[fierce elm]

lmao

[bold yarrow]

one of the games, I lost 42 rating. Looked up the frost mage. Bro took 13th at AWC open

wasn't even smurfing

how tf am i supposed to cop my mogs with that goin on

[fierce elm]

it happens

also how the fuck do you have the energy to queue 8 hours

the fuck big man

[bold yarrow]

yeah i just hate my job so i said I was sick and was like "yeah Ill just get really good today"

i didn't get good

[fierce elm]

lmao

You need to take your time with it

unfortunately you can't brute force rating

Personally, depending on queue times I limit it to MAX 3 hour sessions

and I have been playing for a while whilst reaching decent ratings

[bold yarrow]

its kinda fun on my dh, its not fun at all on the warrior. I was queued all day with an hpal but he would routinely run out of mana after like 2 mins so we lost tons of matches due to that

[fierce elm]

I mean if you can do it fuck it

I just cant handle it mentally kek

[bold yarrow]

yeah i feel dead inside

might go get some sushi and drive into a telephone pole

[green wharf]

i had such an easier time as a hunter than as a warrior climbing rating

but thank god i stop doing shuffle,

there was only mages and evokers

and the broken aflic lock at the time

[bold yarrow]

I am stuck for diff reasons at the 1400-1500 range. On the DH I am stuck because once we get into dampening I am way too squishy for 2s, and on the warrior I just seem to have such inconsistent burst

like on arms I'll pop ava / colossal smash and spam executes and do meaningless damage

then ill occasionally throw a 2m mortal strike down and delete someone and have no buffs up

[green wharf]

i got an evoker that had 3 beans of disintegrate, burn down my entire team and we just died

first time i saw a double kill

[bold yarrow]

oh yeah I have had a few of those today

one feral who did 42m damage in the first 10 seconds of the game and cleave killed us both

but he was a multi glad booster

[green wharf]

doing blitzz i feel i can do more, cause not everyone is broken meta

[bold yarrow]

for sure. I have fun in blitz but its strangers so i dont have anyone pulling me to do it

[fierce elm]

2s and 3s along with solo shuffle is absolutely shit rn

so yeah

[bold yarrow]

I like hearing and telling myself that, but there are still plenty of players able to reach 1600+ with my classes. I just suck, or my comp sucks, or we both suck. Its hard to tell

[fierce elm]

yeah that is definitely a thing

[copper fox]

lol

[bold yarrow]

this is almost all from today

brutal grind lol

[copper fox]

I’m late to the conversation are you new to warrior

[bold yarrow]

im just new

I was 7th highest ranked rogue in TBC and that was the last time i actually pvped on wow

(for 2s)

[copper fox]

On NA?

[bold yarrow]

ye

[copper fox]

Nice. Yea dude if you’re like a decade off the game it’ll take hundreds and hundreds of reps to get shit down ngl especially when you decide to play the wheelchair class

[bold yarrow]

[fickle forge]

TBC

The OG or classic?

[fierce elm]

since he wrote new I asssume its OG

[bold yarrow]

Og

[fickle forge]

I will give it the benefit of the doubt brother

[bold yarrow]

My rogue went to a different school

You wouldn’t know her

[languid hornet]

can someone explain why I've got so few points? If the opposite happens, when I lose 4 round out of 6, I would lose 50-90 points (solo shuffle)

[fickle forge]

Because you're down on mmr

It'll turn around when you win more in a row

[bold yarrow]

does anyone else feel bad joining solo shuffle as a warrior

[deep epoch]

I must of got lucky with my mmr placements n stuff. My BG blitz is at 2k and my solo arena is 2k and 1770ish on both my warriors. But I got a friend who won a BG blitz and didn’t get a rating increase lol. Game must be buggin for some ppl

[languid hornet]

Feeling like an easily kited punching bag. Sometimes feeling pity for those that are in my team, while the other team decides to make me prio before the round starts. First time feeling that useless since mop

[bold yarrow]

"Dracthyr players will also be able to learn a new Skyriding talent called Squadron, in which up to two additional Dracthyr players can join you to fly in formation as you soar through the skies."

man im quitting this lame ass game

top gun loving scaley furries flying in formation

good lord

[bold yarrow]

btw anything worse than missing an execute on a stunned 1% hp foe? literally just "whooooosh"

[green wharf]

monk/dh/rogue dodging colossus smash

its so disapointing waiting to hear the sound effect

[bold yarrow]

Yeah that is pretty bad too

[stark gulch]

sparks quest keep dropping out of everyone else's journal too when they log off?

[green wharf]

yeah, it is a bug going on since last tuesday

you need to do in one go, or you are fucked

[bold yarrow]

PvP is just a minigame

[green wharf]

blizzard is a small indie company you see

they don't have enough people to fix bugs

they are busy buffing mages in mythic or something

[bold yarrow]

Did you read patch notes for tomorrow

Almost no meaningful pvp changes

[exotic sedge]

anyone still running fury?

[bold yarrow]

Most people experiencing any level of success from the looks of it

Fury getting buffed tomorrow

Raging Blow damage increased by 25%.

Bloodthirst damage increased by 30%.

Crushing Force now increases Bloodthirst critical strike damage by 5/10% (was critical strike chance by 2/4%).

[green wharf]

they said they will try to fix mmr

or something

like putting a more balanced team

maybe i will not go against FOUR frost mages in a blitzz

[green wharf]

doesn't affect reckless abandon, and i refuse to get the other one

look at the mmr, four people 2000+ there, we only had 1900, dam

[bold yarrow]

At least there’s a warrior doing us proud

[green wharf]

the red one was prot so shame on him

[verbal tangle]

Prot War kinda goated tbh

[faint ore]

does fury war and unholy dk share same gcd? like if both have 15 percent haste are their gcds the same

[green wharf]

[tight rain]

[cosmic bridge]

What’s best in pvp rn for arms, colossus or slayer?

[green wharf]

slayer for both arms and fury

might be different today

but i doubt

[cosmic bridge]

Thank you! What stats would be be going?

[green wharf]

arms? might check murloc io for more deep answer, but usualy vers>haste>mastery

[cinder thorn]

Cheaters and botters can farm and herb and mine better now with multiple toons

[green wharf]

why i never get one of those stupid monks and Evokers who fly trough the map

[fluid jacinth]

Great fun as fury warrior in solo shuffle

[distant dagger]

Do yall think the team “balance” changes with the patch is gonna fuck over current mmr? Like im 1740 but in 2k mmr lobbies, winning 20 losing 0, will the chnages tomorrow fuck that?

[fierce elm]

they wont affect mmr

[distant dagger]

God i hope not, i just climbed out of MMR hell

Was winning like 8 and losing 15

[fluid jacinth]

I just want that sweet elite set personally

[distant dagger]

Same, and ive wanted the 60 pvp set for years

Since cata

[fluid jacinth]

I've taken a break from reaching 1800 in rbg blitz. Gonna try my luck in solo shuffle instead, but so far I am only meeting ranged players 😂

[jovial torrent]

if ur 2k mmr just keep playing u will hit 1800 even with 51% winrate

hit 1850 with like 2.1k mmr but just chilling playing alts

just sucks how long it takes to farm conquest points

[distant dagger]

In the past 3 days ive lifted my win rate from 40% to 51% on the season, going from 1500 mmr to 2k mmr makes the games much more enjoyable

[silk hamlet]

How handicapped will I be using fury gear for arms / arms gear for fury? Like stat wise? I know they prioritize differently.

[green wharf]

[green wharf]

can you get that still?

[fierce elm]

yes

at least the replica

by hitting 1800 in blitz

[fierce elm]

basically not much

[lavish quest]

No, because I've had it for years 😉

[cobalt gale]

So after the slayer nerfs are we going demolish

Or slayer is still the play?

[fierce elm]

who knows

Personally think demolish blows chunks

[cobalt gale]

U need to stack mastery as demolish am I right?

[silk hamlet]

@fierce elm ty, also am I understanding fury gets a little buff today?

[green wharf]

rly, where do i get those, orgrimmar?

i just hit 1800 with me hunter

[chilly pivot]

Yes, big buffs

[thick reef]

Area 52

[fierce elm]

Google Replica Marshal vendor

and you will find it

[silk hamlet]

Ty for the info, one more question as I’m a noob. Who generally has the better survivability in most situations?

[green wharf]

are they rly, i only saw some nerfs in slayer

raging blow buff that doesn't affect reckless abadon

[chilly pivot]

Raging Blow damage increased by 25%.

Bloodthirst damage increased by 30%.

Crushing Force now increases Bloodthirst critical strike damage by 5/10% (was critical strike chance by 2/4%).

Who care stil 25% more dmg

[wheat jay]

Non reckless abandon versions

Reckless and AM will be around the same dps now thats all

[elfin surge]

no way we're back fury today

[willow plover]

Fury gang

[elfin surge]

zzzz

[summer root]

[lavish quest]

We never left

[verbal tangle]

[willow plover]

Will 11.0.5 start for us EU bois as well today?

[lavish quest]

Prob not

[verbal tangle]

Probably not

Tomorrow most likely

[willow plover]

There is a timer on wowhead that says 2 hours, i guess they just hate europeans

[verbal tangle]

Based

[lavish quest]

NA is just ahead

[verbal tangle]

[willow plover]

Shouldn't you guys be in bed smh

[lavish quest]

It's 8:44 am...

I work starting at 6. I wake up at 4:30

[fickle forge]

Spear + Demo is the way

[elfin surge]

same

[lavish quest]

#americandream

[upbeat finch]

Hello my dearest fury pumpers

I recently changed from Arms to Fury to enjoy a bit the flavor of the month

[verbal ember]

Blasphemy!

[fierce elm]

No Patch days are always wednesdays

[upbeat finch]

Can you guys help me on what are the best stats, and how can I fix my build?

[verbal ember]

Just check murlok.io my man

[fierce elm]

fotm is going feral smh

[fickle forge]

Warrior
FotM

Pick one

[rancid granite]

we had our ~1-2 week moment in the sun already

[lavish quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072539415261499412.gif?quality=lossless&name=huh&size=48

[copper fox]

Someone called fury fotm

We are so back men

[green wharf]

but slayer got nerfed though

[copper fox]

Fury runs train on the lower brackets tho that’s why

[lavish quest]

And I have people call me good looking recently. It means nothing

[copper fox]

😂 rip

[green wharf]

i swear to god if they don't fix the vicious saddle progression bug today, i will flip the fuck out

[lavish quest]

They prob don't even know about it

Idk, I still get prog on the current season's mount so I haven't have issues

[bold yarrow]

I haven't had any progress on my mount in a few days

[lavish quest]

That just means you haven't won in a few days

[copper fox]

Why didn’t you all get the Mount week 1

[bold yarrow]

[lavish quest]

Pve lording

[green wharf]

you get progresion for the vicious skyflayer, but don't get progression for vicious saddle

one month of bug

[lavish quest]

Well I could afk for 15 seasons and still not need em... so I'm good

[green wharf]

my theory is that no dev have 1000+ rank to replicate the bug

so they don't think its bugged

thats why they fixed a bug that caused you to get progression for the skyflayer while below 1000 rank

[fierce elm]

or they just dont give a fuck about pvp which wouldn't be surprising considering the state of the meta rn

[copper fox]

How ironic but true

[green wharf]

but they fixed the second one

[green wharf]

this

[copper fox]

They create the meta -> then they don’t care about PvP because of the meta

[fickle forge]

Where feral nerfs @sharp meteor

[fierce elm]

considering everyone I know that PvP has gone into PvE entirely lmao

because we finally realized they don't care about PvP

[fickle forge]

Even Seif is a PvE'er now

[bold yarrow]

just roll feral guys

pvp is still fun

[fickle forge]

I am

It's level 75 rn

[fierce elm]

why dont I just cut my balls off then

[bold yarrow]

its called a neutering and its normal for cats

[lavish quest]

Well yeah, they made dog meta, cause they don't care

[copper fox]

Correct

But

[fierce elm]

Thankfully they are doing nothing on a season that has shit rewards

[copper fox]

Cat meta you mean

[fierce elm]

outside of the enchant and elite set

[fickle forge]

I dub this first season as the furry season

[copper fox]

It truly is

[green wharf]

but i want the vicious saddle for the cool mounts

[fierce elm]

Don't worry, just hope for RNG to get an S-tier spec in next season and they won't nerf you

lmao

[green wharf]

[fierce elm]

oh wait they did that on Fury

Now Feral is dodging everything because its irrelevant in any other content

[fickle forge]

People must not know that spear+demo is sleeper S tier

[copper fox]

👀

[rancid granite]

tried it for a match it felt awful

then its like a min and a half of 'now what' 😭

[fickle forge]

Skill issue

Do your rotation

[rancid granite]

possibly but ill never admit to it fully

[fickle forge]

Lmao

[bold yarrow]

anyone 1500 rating or around there want me to bot heal them in 2s on my disc today

[lavish quest]

Not omega God S tier?

It's warrior, surely it is

[rancid granite]

i aint getting thos eback to back crits while their team is afk though

[copper fox]

Just play Batman cleave and have your rogue lock them down for demo

Surely it’ll work

[fickle forge]

How are you not critting with Reck buff

[rancid granite]

skill issue

[green wharf]

why i stop doing shuffle btw:

[rancid granite]

rofl

[green wharf]

think they are buffing mages more too

[bold yarrow]

[green wharf]

[bold yarrow]

maybe ill roll a mage

i have 5 80s so I got that sweet xp bonus

[fickle forge]

On the 7th warrior nerf Blizzard will surely compensate us

[bold yarrow]

I told you guys its because we get all the girls

[green wharf]

i know a guy who got like 2300rank whith full honor and the conquest weapon as mage

no enchant, gems

[bold yarrow]

well they have 4 health bars

so it makes sense

[lavish quest]

Where's the hoes?

[bold yarrow]

mine came in the mail when i hit 80 on my warrior... did yours not arrive?

[green wharf]

no nerf on evokers, they got unreavel buffed, i dunno what the shit is that

but it will prob eat my ass anyway

[copper fox]

Yo huge tip. Stop rerolling

[lavish quest]

Yeah, just stop playing

[lavish quest]

Nah... maybe wrong address. Where do I find the tracking number?

[green wharf]

i never did

i always play with warrior+warlock+hunter, coincidentally the classes/specs who most get shit on

[bold yarrow]

aren't warlock and hunter pretty ok rn

[lavish quest]

Warlocks always stronk too

[green wharf]

afflic is

[lavish quest]

We just bully them

[green wharf]

destro e demo, the ones i play are poop

afflic shadowbolt doing more damage than chaos bolt

[bold yarrow]

yeah cuz I had a maleific rupture crit me for 6.1m

[green wharf]

i refusse to play that shit

[green wharf]

but can't play demon either, cause im not dumb

[cobalt gale]

Do I stack mastery if I’m demolish ?

[green wharf]

depends on your haste

i think it affect the skill

[lavish quest]

Lol. I dunno what "i dag kl." is so I choose to believe this is years old

[cobalt gale]

How many haste do I need?

[lavish quest]

Also probably a g.i.r.l.

[green wharf]

check murloc i.o to see how people are running arms stats

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[bold yarrow]

dont check murlok.io because you'll find out there that the top 10 warriors are the same guy

[green wharf]

[fickle forge]

Me out here throwing off the Murlok stats

[bold yarrow]

I tried spear for 5 games and realized that it doesnt keep people close enough for demolish so it was effectively useless

[elfin surge]

SPEAR

[upbeat finch]

I swap from arms... and this is are my stats.... are this terrible?

[fickle forge]

You don't use Spear for the lockdown

You use Spear for the +25% crit dmg

[elfin surge]

You use spear to make the enemy think you're a 1200 player then you lose because you are @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

We lowkey farmed some feral teams with it

Where as before it was auto loss

[elfin surge]

KAP

[green wharf]

need more mastery

[elfin surge]

ferals dont lose bruh

[fickle forge]

Bro I'm telling you

[green wharf]

they lose, they just don't die

[fickle forge]

The 6.5M hit is never expected

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/mudcxx/status/1848705715470225611?s=46&t=XTh2dVvKrzKJ4TvuxlEJUQ

Mud (@Mudcxx) on X

Which of the recent expansions had the best pvp?

Twitter · Oct 22, 2024, 12:39 PM

[fierce elm]

he hits it about 1/100 games