pvp

[fickle forge]

I mean it's lowkey the most satisfying button I ever hit on arms

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-football-mountains-throw-strong-gif-25398532

everyone wanting to pvp in classic expacs

remind me of the uncle from napolean dynamite

just wanting to live in the past

[fickle forge]

I mean if it's better

Then why not

Why play something you dislike

[rancid granite]

i cant actually describe it idk lol

retail just always more official

same with other games and private servers etc

its awesome but i never got into them

[fickle forge]

To me, retail PvP is the hottest garbage

Like worse than any iteration I ever played

Even BFA was better

[rancid granite]

dang im happy i dont have much to compare it to then

but if true it can only get better

[fickle forge]

I don't think so, they just changed philosophy

PvP was about doing setups and cross CC

Now we just spam damage and hit micro CC into triple DR

Idk, just so far fetched from what I used to like

[rancid granite]

yeah it def sounds better

probably why ive been gravitating to rogue so i can have some semblance of it

[fickle forge]

Shadowlands was the best PvP gameplay for me

You pressed offensive CDs, enemies had to respond with defensives or major mobility CDs or else you'd die

Don't fumble trinket or you'll die next setup

Took some game sense to win and climb

Was pretty good

Also Conq Banner was a babe

[tribal wedge]

speaks facts

[elfin surge]

based

[boreal veldt]

shadowlands was when our mythic team benched all but the tank warriors, the pvp was great though

[lavish quest]

Shadowlands, I was tanking and my mythic team made me go war DPS lul

It was so bad. But someone else wanted to tank

I was lamp man tho

[boreal veldt]

rally was still useful then

gotta have some warrs

[lavish quest]

It's more that I just don't play other things

[boreal veldt]

[lavish quest]

Especially you couldn't alt in SL.

[boreal veldt]

during most of SL to be truthful i was running gunbreaker in ff14

joined the exodus of people quitting wow for a time

dodged korthia

[lavish quest]

Same. I played warrior in ff14 as well though

Forever warrior

[urban skiff]

rate my dam

@fierce elm

[lavish quest]

This ain't the shaman discord reeee

[fickle forge]

Shadowlands was the hottest garbage as an expansion, but had sick PvP

[lavish quest]

Ye... I was in a CE guild so I didn't do a whole lot of it

Then quit after CE

[fickle forge]

It had moments of crazy overtuneness though

Like I destroyed a mage with a SD proc when he was on 60% HP and had pala sac on him

Deadge

That was pretty garbage when you play right and still get punished

[urban skiff]

wdym? I'm SMF thane bro

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

1.3 seconds to shave 50% off a ww

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

I am 100% certain I have farmed your warr in 2s before

I recognize that name

[fierce elm]

Look at this BoE @urban skiff

[urban skiff]

nice head

[lavish quest]

10k

[fickle forge]

Trade it to my DK

[fierce elm]

no

[lavish quest]

So much for being a team player

[fickle forge]

Afro doesn't run keys with me anymore

[fierce elm]

IM IN RAID

[fickle forge]

He's a little bitch

[urban skiff]

what name

[lavish quest]

What's it like being hardstuck 0?

[urban skiff]

I've tried harder

[narrow compass]

That shit killed WoW for me for almost an entire expansion! Left shortly after SoD and didn't return until S4 of DF.

[urban skiff]

at least I'm sorta winning

[boreal veldt]

yeah it's like kara was sayin, unless you were doing pvp SL was hot garbage

[narrow compass]

And sadly I didnt PVP at all in SL 😦

Solo Shuffle basically revived WoW for me.

[urban skiff]

SL was fun as fuck

sylvanas was a great fight

[rancid granite]

yeah same, then a 2nd time with rbgb

can just Q up like its league of legends lol

[boreal veldt]

look me in the eye and tell me shards of domination gear was good

swear to me

[urban skiff]

I was feral

Idk what you expect, I have rocks in my head

[boreal veldt]

[boreal veldt]

i apologize for being insensitive, i didn't realize

[fickle forge]

I fucking hated Sylvanas lmfao

[lavish quest]

I have the nathria one

[fickle forge]

That fight was so long I fell asleep every time

[fickle forge]

I liked Castle

[urban skiff]

somehow i missed castle

[fickle forge]

And after that, it was all hell

[fierce elm]

I dont wanna brag

but I am doing first time heroic

[fickle forge]

Shadowlands as a whole was forgetable

[fierce elm]

I am a god

[fickle forge]

Except Denathrius

And weirdly enough I loved Painsmith

[lavish quest]

Only bothered with the one

Learned it's too much work for me to care. Settle with pugging AOTC

[narrow compass]

Boy you crazy

[fickle forge]

I loved Argus

[urban skiff]

argus was fucking goat

[cloud meadow]

ok now show me supreme spelunker lil bro

[urban skiff]

what this?

[cloud meadow]

lmao no AOTC

thought so

[urban skiff]

you got me

my balls are shrivelled and useless

you're the true thane

[fierce elm]

kek

[boreal veldt]

RIP

[shut tangle]

hey guys can you take a look at my int macro?

idk why its not working

#showtooltip Intervene
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@Party 1} Intervene

[urban skiff]

last bracket is wrong

you want []

[shut tangle]

holy crap i didnt even see that

thank you sir

[cloud meadow]

cancelling bladestorm is crazy

if my shuffle teammate has to die while im in BS then so be it 🙏

[shut tangle]

lol

[urban skiff]

if he dies he dies

[iron fractal]

Should I switch out Storm of destruction for Disarm?

[urban skiff]

Sounds like defensive play

[iron fractal]

Well its for when I do world pvp and bg's.

[cloud meadow]

tf is storm of destruction

some arms talent?

you should switch to fury

[iron fractal]

Arms pvp talent.

[urban skiff]

yo guys

I need a mog for this

[fierce elm]

the time traveler one

in the shop

is the best fit probably

[urban skiff]

that doesn't cost money

[fierce elm]

if you want a full set

pussy

you rich af

[urban skiff]

I mean yeah

[cloud meadow]

just strip naked since you're findommed by blizz

[fierce elm]

feed

CONSUME

[willow plover]

Guys

Larosw said on his stream that when hitting dummy or a not moving target u should be at 100% uptime of enrage

can someone help me understand how

[fallen estuary]

no nzoth

[willow plover]

If my bt doesnt proc another enrage i drop it like 10/10 times

[fickle forge]

1600 is the same as curve?

Crazy

[fierce elm]

it is crazy

[fickle forge]

Participation trophy vs actual challenge for casuals

[urban skiff]

lmao what?

Curve is like week 2 social raid stuff..

[fickle forge]

I mean we can argue that one to death

But I think we can all agree that curve is definitely harder than getting 1600

[fierce elm]

all depends on what content you do

big man

[urban skiff]

I think it depends on how people play and who they know

If you are best friends with cdew and pika you're going to have a very easy time getting 1600 rating. If you're in my guild you're going to have a very easy time getting curve.

[wheat jay]

1600 is much easier lol

[fickle forge]

Alright big bro, but you get like 1500 mmr for free

[fierce elm]

alright big bro but your guild sucks

and people suck at pvp

[fickle forge]

Imagine if you were given 7/8 HC from the get go

[urban skiff]

I aim to suck at everything

[fierce elm]

I forgot 1500 mmr gives you 1600cr immediately lmao

The hardest one is the KSM one

[fickle forge]

I'll have you know we have at least 8 gamers

[fierce elm]

either way, it all depends on what content you play from the start

[fickle forge]

Yeah lil' bro, if you win 3 games you're on 1600 mmr

And then you can just vibe and grind the games

[fierce elm]

I forgot thats 1600cr

also win 3 games

[fickle forge]

So sorry, forgot your spec is R1 at 1300 cr in shuffle

[urban skiff]

I'll have you know it took me 15 games to win my first BGB

[fickle forge]

What the fuck

[urban skiff]

I was not having a good time

Sorry I made a typo, meant BGB not shuffle. Fixed it

[shut tangle]

hey guys whats better

[urban skiff]

benchpress

[shut tangle]

Acendence or the other one

[fickle forge]

Ah yeah but that's like playing competitive Mario Party bro

Shit's not in your control

[urban skiff]

Once it clicked though our wins were straight up me carrying

Took EotS flag and just ran around in ghost wolf

never caught me, perpetual 1 base on both sides

[cloud meadow]

1600 is top 85%

[fickle forge]

You can top the damage, you can literally demolish objectives, but your rogue defending got sapped and lost the base so you lose

[cloud meadow]

so id say its probably even harder than curve in theory

[urban skiff]

when they finally all gathered for a big push I launched them all of BELF tower, capped the flag and we took two bases. Full control that match

[fickle forge]

Idk what this means

Top 85% as in you're better than 15% of the playerbase?

[cloud meadow]

it means only 15% of the playerbase is 1600 or higher

[urban skiff]

Means 1600 makes you better than 85% of all participating players

[fickle forge]

Yeah I call cap on that

Where we drawing stats from

[cloud meadow]

my ass bro

i just made it up

[fickle forge]

Sick brother

Aight brother you know what, I stand corrected

[fierce elm]

fucking rolled

[urban skiff]

mad respect

[wheat jay]

Are you?

You'd need to check participation of pve and pvp

And difference is like 20:1 xD

[fickle forge]

You can do that

I'm going off of this bit for now

[wheat jay]

No

[violet fossil]

almost

[fickle forge]

Where we getting this stat from man

[cloud meadow]

accurate LFG ranking representation

[crimson onyx]

Why is no one wearing 4 set yet? We can get 4 set this week right?

[urban skiff]

someone said it's bad and now everyone's too scared to equip it

[cloud meadow]

i use BT like twice per round

i think its ujst bad

bc the bonus you get

upgrades something you dont use

[crimson onyx]

But for arms it is quite good no?

[fickle forge]

It's alright

10% crit is okay

[crimson onyx]

So should we go for it or not? xD

I don't dare to do the transformation haha

[violet fossil]

Maybe

[crimson onyx]

xD

[fickle forge]

Per chance

[rancid granite]

-click AWC stream
-see warrior being played
-warrior team loses
-close AWC stream

[wheat jay]

Blizo was winning some earlier

Also, who cares about who wins

Cdew lost so hard he made doomposts on twitter

Thats the funniest shit

[rancid granite]

the women always ruin the legends

[wheat jay]

I mean, he always seemed like a dick

At least that was my impression of him

[boreal veldt]

him dooming about a garbage comp reminds me of me complaining about jungle

[crimson onyx]

Is there any obvious item that we should put the craft on?
I see Gloves, Feet and wrist but pretty evenly spread

[boreal veldt]

nothing obvious imo, but if you want more mast/has/crit over vers then craft your jewlery

[urban skiff]

enh dominating

[crimson onyx]

I guess vers could be quite preferable tho because of set pieces

[urban skiff]

he lost to enh/fdk/prev

[boreal veldt]

sure, you can also craft wep,back,wrists, and boots

[violet fossil]

not just u tbh

[crimson onyx]

What comp was Blizo playing btw? Missed the game

[violet fossil]

he looks like a dick

[rain hawk]

Hey which weapon enchant do you use in pvp as a warrior ?

[fickle forge]

Feral druid

[rain hawk]

I see both depth and radiant power

[wheat jay]

Warr and lock

[boreal veldt]

he actually won a game with hpal,fury,ele on the tiragarde map

[iron fractal]

One thing really making me dislike arms with colossus is how little chance it is to hit with Demolish..

[rancid granite]

its 100% chance to hit

if you land it

[iron fractal]

Even with stun up its like "Sorry, dude took one step away"

Great thinking making it a channel ability.

[fickle forge]

Thunder cleave is decent

Heard SP+warr might be rising

[fickle forge]

Just pre-CC

[iron fractal]

I do pre-cc when I use it, but it needs the full stun to have a chance to work.

[fickle forge]

Don't know brother, you playing 0% haste?

I can hit Shockwave into CS into Demo np

[rancid granite]

cant say its not cool tho

https://tenor.com/view/axe-gif-8046255

channeling a big ass weapon for big swing

[iron fractal]

The big numbers activates my monkey brain.

[willow plover]

Yo who here is a great fury warrior?

[urban skiff]

take cast time of demolish / (1+haste%) to know cast time of demolish. Subtract 1/(1+haste%) from your stormbolt duration.

(that's your gcd)

[boreal veldt]

@urban skiff

[urban skiff]

If your stormbolt runs out before demolish can finish you're in trouble

[boreal veldt]

smf thane god

[urban skiff]

it's no use, I played with him today and showed how much i suck

[boreal veldt]

i have 15% haste and can get bolt into demo easily even without iftk buff

just gotta track them good ol drs

[urban skiff]

Went 9-2 for the first games then somehow ended up at 11-11 by the end. 3v3 turned super sweaty after 21.30

[willow plover]

BT takes 2 gobals to reset but I need 3-4 globals to generate enough rage for a rampage

Oh wait

I need to always hit BT after each rampage

That way i can do rampage -> BT -> Filler -> Filler -> BT and i always have enough for rampage

[urban skiff]

stormbolt -> 1.3 second gcd. Storm bolt lasts 4 seconds vs non orcs. So you have 2.7 seconds to finish a 1.74 second demolish.

[fickle forge]

Now imagine if warrior was like rogue and got 50% haste baseline

[urban skiff]

tbh just throw in PI + bloodlust

Watch them panic as that demolish goes instant

[willow plover]

nvm that doesnt work because i cannot press bt again after rampage

[hallow tiger]

Any changes in next reset patch for warriors?

[urban skiff]

yes

tooltip updates to match latest hotfix

[hallow tiger]

It’s gonna be the anniversary patch right?

[boreal veldt]

warriors gonna get a shiny updated wrath set and be content

[urban skiff]

tbh that's a huge buff

Wrath set is iconic, almost as much as the pala set

I want druid, rogue, pala set

[boreal veldt]

yeah they've tried a few times to recreate the wrath shoulders but none ever came close to the og

[willow plover]

has anyone here tried climbing to a good rating with only lfg ?

[fickle forge]

Yes

Can't recommend it

[urban skiff]

it's painful but doable

having discord and good vibes/communication with stable group of people adds 150 rating immediately

[willow plover]

Everyoen asks for 2.4xp and the ones i find that doesnt really didn't play arena much and im not good enough to carry those groups

[fickle forge]

Solution is to make your own group

And realise that 90% of the ones asking for 2.4k xp don't have 2.4k xp

[willow plover]

So i just make a group asking for 2.4k xp ?

lmfao become a part of the problem?

[wheat jay]

But kargish

We got glad through lfg

[urban skiff]

part of their problem, but part of your solution

[fickle forge]

Conq banner was my 3rd in that group

[fickle forge]

You got it

[crimson onyx]

Why are so many Arms warriors going hard on crit now?

Thought it was our worst stat

[willow plover]

I looked up 3 ppl that wrote 2k+ xp in their lfg posts and they actually have it lol

[wheat jay]

Poor James not even considered part of the team

Bro youre toxic

[fickle forge]

They aren't

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

You were 100% the animal in that group

[crimson onyx]

I saw multiple on top blitz ladder

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Bro I was the wildest card

You can get 2, or an Ace

Nothing in between

[urban skiff]

arms don't have bad stats

just slightly worse stats

[fickle forge]

This is for blitz

[crimson onyx]

Arms is the shit

[wheat jay]

The most inconsistent gladiator in the history of this game

[fickle forge]

Now that's a number I haven't seen in a very long time

@urban skiff Welp brother

There goes your bug

[urban skiff]

we were only moments away from greatness

but also appreciate that they acknowledge from the getgo that it should be based on maelstrom stacks and not simply casts.

not sure I'm going to really love that change though. I like pressing storm strikes

But they're also changing ascendance to a 2min cd iirc so might just stick with manual turbo button

[wheat jay]

Nah dont hurt me like that man

Stop

Pvp went downhill so hard after cc changes

Every class got 2-3 more cc abilities

Or some other bullshit

Imagine we actually all believed soulshape was terrible

[fickle forge]

I can't believe they're nerfing warrior again man

[wheat jay]

And now we got all that new shit lol

[fickle forge]

Honestly dude, at the time, Soulshape and the fucking ress seed were terrible

[wheat jay]

Ye

And looking back

They were minor shit if we compare it to new things xD

[fickle forge]

I mean it was a better time overall in SL

SL had different shit I used to hate, which they eventually fixed

[wheat jay]

Yep

But the main design of pvp was still fine

Trade defensives, do dmg, do cc, stop cc

Now its, do dmg, spam defensives cuz one wont be enough

[fickle forge]

Nah more like, you picked the wrong spec and you're gonna rot down

[wheat jay]

Well, that too

But cc being so short, breakable cc

Everything breaks it too

[fickle forge]

It ain't easy man

It's why I am waiting for MoP

[wheat jay]

Waiting for new games

[fierce kite]

Still not sure when to sub in two set man, that isnt mythic track

[urban skiff]

remember the pod?

[keen sinew]

Hi, how do you get the Q that grants you 9x epic heraldries? I played 42x solo shuffle and some skirmishes and didn't get it. It should pop up automatically, right?

[urban skiff]

win something rated and then open the box

You win boxes when winning content, it drops from one of the first 3 boxes

[rancid granite]

42x shuffle? sure you dont have it hidden in your bags?

mail?

[cobalt gale]

It comes from your mail

Check your mail

[river walrus]

Pretty sure it's hidden somewhere in his bag lol

[keen sinew]

yes, 42x shuffle, I won a lot of times, I have no more boxes to open

I have 3 other charactes and I always had it in Gatherer's Reagent Pouch

[rancid granite]

did you use them already 👀

[wheat jay]

Ye, and over like 2k games, i saw mage get up like twice

Maybe 3

[keen sinew]

no certainly not, I don't have any crafted item

I crafted items on other characters and I know how it works with those heraldries, but I never got them on this char.

[rancid granite]

you cant do hella shuffles without getting it i dont think

so they hiding or thrown away

[keen sinew]

I'm going to lose my 6th epic BG in a row, so I'm going to check my mailbox afterwards.

[rancid granite]

🙏

[hot solstice]

crazy 3s session

Thesia+tony

awc afterparty

[willow plover]

I played two different 3v3 comps today, turbo cleave (enh + fury + disc) and TSG (unholy, fury, holy pala) but I dont understand my role in these comps. Im almost always outdamaged by my dps friend and I dont think im doing that much cc so it feels more like im there as a support class, intervening when needed, slowing and most importantly just reducing healing

[hot solstice]

u cant outdamage udk

but u should outdamage enha always

u dont need to do much cc

fear healer

and use bolt for lockdown on target

[willow plover]

I mostly get outdamaged by the enha most games, idk what the hell im doing wrong, im around 50-60% uptime on enraged in our arena matches

with the uhdk i managed to peak at 77% uptime a few games

[hot solstice]

idk...with perfect uptime u should have reck+bstorm combo every 35-45sec

thats where most of ur dam comes from

check ur rotation and build

[willow plover]

I always need to use reck before i bladestorm right?

i mean rampage sorry

[hot solstice]

its better to combine them

at least to try

[willow plover]

Ive been checking my rotation all day today idk what the hell im doing

[hot solstice]

bladestorm cds faster cause slayer stacks

sometimes u can bs just to keep uptime, if u r sure u kill target

but otherwise its better to line those 2 cds

[willow plover]

hm

i need to give it another go tomorrow or maybe look at some stream of a better player to see what order they press buttons

[hot solstice]

so basicaly u simply do as much rampages as u can

fury isnt hard

watch execute procks aswell

u both cdr and stack crit chance buff

and u wont get much success playing those comps

u need ele or sp to begin with

[willow plover]

The thing is that i cannot wrap my head around is that i need to press 4 buttons usually to get enough rage for rampage, but the order of those 4 buttons has to change every rampage depending on what is available

[hot solstice]

even mage will work better

idk

just practice on dummy

[willow plover]

yeah i guess

i think both turbo and tsg was insane amounts of fun compared to playing with a sp and mage

[hot solstice]

its crucial to watch whats going on around without watching ur binds

trust me

melee cleaves r not very good now

[willow plover]

Today whey i played with zercher from this discord i never laughed that much playing wow like ever

[hot solstice]

but it all depends on what cr u r playing and what rating u want to reach

[willow plover]

yeah if i dont watch my binds to see what spells are up i drop enrage in an instant i almost always have to look down

i do see enemies walking around and what they are casting though so i usually dont miss to cc or kick casters

[hot solstice]

train on dummy then

cant recommend else

[willow plover]

rn im 1550 in 3s and want to reach 2k

So u think mage or sp is the solution

[copper fox]

sp

[hot solstice]

ele is even easier

cause warrior sp demands good cc chains to play on higher lvl

but should be enough just to zug zug up to 2k

[copper fox]

I’m playing thunder on my arms alt Sunday

Hyped

Played sp fury on main felt good tho

[hot solstice]

ye, good comp

cba I wish that feral mage meta changed

[willow plover]

Does it matter what healer u run with ele or sp?

[hot solstice]

hpala is best rn

u can chain stun silence into rep fear + hoj main target

cause 3 sec bolt for target lockdown is a joke

thats for sp war

[willow plover]

hm might have to try again

[hot solstice]

but first just try to do damage without looking on ur spam buttons cd

[violet fossil]

just find a ret pally

for next week

[fallen estuary]

i remember when warriors were actually a threat and not a training dummy 😔

[frosty flower]

Ok grandpa, time to take your medicine

[low cobalt]

😂

[shut tangle]

quick question

whats better for the embellishments

Acenscendence or elemental lense

@ me please

I am currrently saving up for the alagari gem slots and I only have 1 enchant for them. Also which weapon enchant is best. Im currently running double Depths but I saw a lot of people using radiant power

[cinder thorn]

Both radiant and depths are good

Radiant is more popular

Radiant is bustier, depths more sustain that's it both are luck based

[shut tangle]

okay and whats the better embellishment

[cinder thorn]

I dont use embellishments, I use full conquest gear, I wouldnt know

you can look at murlok.io or pvp leaderboards and see what top players are using, I dont copy them I do my own thing

[dense herald]

Thats why u could only win vs me with cheating

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

Grabbing a bg buff in a bg is cheating?

I call it map awareness noob

[dense herald]

It was a makgora

And u survived on less than 10% hp even with the heal

[cinder thorn]

it was a battle for a farm that you took unjustly from its owners

then you hid like a coward in stealth

until I sent you packing to the GY 😄

[dense herald]

In a real 1vs1 without external buffs i woulda beat u

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-right-ok-gif-23230193

[dense herald]

U can tell urself whatever u want i was better that day

Its like saying robb stark was weaker than the lannisters cuz he lost the war

And if uve watched got u know how he lost it

[pure hornet]

Is high haste better into melee

?

[pure hornet]

What is your ign

[cinder thorn]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/eu/ravencrest/borhán

[pure hornet]

What is with that high haste….???

And frenzied enrage too….

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-speedy-gonzalez-fast-ariba-brt-gif-14083077

[pure hornet]

Ye but still

[cinder thorn]

like I said, I dont copy others 😉

most people go mastery/vers

plus im not top of the playerbase, im only 2100 in SB atm, but climbing slowly

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27443459

Grandpaws medicine

Increases damage by 200%

[dense herald]

am i overusing bt

[cinder thorn]

whats ur dps on dummy, average and max when bursting?

[dense herald]

idk

[cinder thorn]

noob, go find out

[dense herald]

1mil max 800k average

[distant dagger]

Whats your strat going into blitz? You have a higher win rage and i feel like i have no impact on warr

[cinder thorn]

dont care about the score sheet, watch map be aware of whats needed and where you are most effective

[hot solstice]

u get extra from unhinged

so dont think u actualy press it more

[dense herald]

yea but i usually press bt

2% heal keeps the gains real

[cinder thorn]

also watch the timers, for example, if farm is about to decap you should be heading towards there if there's no one there or if there's a fight, not after it goes grey on map

[dense herald]

as warrior you mainly wanna go into team fights

[hot solstice]

bt and rb r pretty much irrelevant with anger management...u pretty much always press 1 bt between rampages, if no sudden death or onslaught available

[dense herald]

defending a base alone as warrior is gg

[dense herald]

try to kill the healers and run spear on ctf maps it helps "sometimes"

[dense herald]

@cinder thorn

you mf

[cinder thorn]

where are u

I dont know ur name

[dense herald]

u wont know

[cinder thorn]

pussy

[tiny dagger]

how's war doing in pvp atm? im fury in raid but i usually pvp as arms but if fury is performing well i might just stick with it

i just wanna get an idea before i start spending honor and shit on stuff

[fierce elm]

About middle of the pack or just below middle of the pack

[tiny dagger]

ok but if u had to pick which would u do ? cuz fur wants vers mast gear and arms wants haste vers gear. i just dont want to waste resources with getting the wrong shit and then swapping

[fierce elm]

I would run whichever you enjoy the most

So pick the playstyle you prefer

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-swag-savage-burn-owned-gif-5251169

owned

were u Marauder?

or Velorien, or Vanyth

there were too many warriors in that match

last time I owned you you were Arxnamus

how many warriors do u have

bring them all 1 by 1 ill own them all

[rancid granite]

borhan going for a first class ticket to valhalla

[thick reef]

I wanna see this 1v1 , borhan talking a big game

[cinder thorn]

nah we just messing around, he's really good

well, he was last time we fought

this time he wont even say who he was XD

[onyx marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-rage-berserk-guts-rage-gif-25905062

[fickle forge]

Looks like I have to Q up and farm both Borhan and Frosty

[fickle forge]

Don't let me catch you on the field big man

[dense herald]

owned?

brother u didnt pick up the orb 1 time,u got 1 kill and 6 deaths

and i dealt 50mil more dmg than u

more like carried

[cinder thorn]

who won though

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[dense herald]

your team no thanks to you

[fickle forge]

I'm liking this rival arc

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dig-deeper-derek-muller-veritasium-go-deeper-leave-no-stone-unturned-gif-24985258

wait are you trying to say that you lost even though enemy was one man down?

[dense herald]

no im saying you played badly and only won cause of ur team

you didnt pick up a single orb

[cinder thorn]

I was being useless and talking to the team all game obviously

[fickle forge]

Tbf I don't pick up orbs either, I just run people through

[cinder thorn]

instead of dpsing and picking up orbs

[dense herald]

4 of my 4 kills were u

[cinder thorn]

thats how I got to the same rating as you, by being useless 😄

[dense herald]

im 500 more rating than you

and i got dcd one time and lost 200 rating

[wheat jay]

Wait we're talking bgblitz?

[dense herald]

yes

[wheat jay]

[thick reef]

Hahahahahahaha bg blitz wars

[wheat jay]

Move on

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eat-eating-watching-entertained-gif-4744683

[wheat jay]

Pathetic to argue about that lol

[thick reef]

Que it up again lads

[tropic forge]

anyone knows how to get 639 crafted ring without being jewelcrafter?

[thick reef]

Who will win the next one!

[dense herald]

crafting order

[wheat jay]

You can be the biggest idiot, afk whole game and if you rng good teams or bad enemies you win

Its shuffle²

[tropic forge]

it doesnt show there, or i can not find it

[cinder thorn]

yes thats how I got to 2400 just by being useless and afk in base while team does everything

I also take my armor off every time frosty is in enemy team so he can kill me 4 times and still lose 😄

[tropic forge]

I can not find any algari items there

i mean pvp items

[tropic forge]

ok i will try thank you

[wheat jay]

Possible scenario

Though unlikely

[dense herald]

yeah cause my team bad

[wheat jay]

Also isn't bgblitz hella inflated?

[dense herald]

its literally rng

[wheat jay]

People are like 3k there iirc

[dense herald]

either u get good team8s or bad

once i got feral who said he would defend draenei tower in eye of the storm,he didnt even call incoming and he lost the flag 1vs1 to a rogue

how are u a stealth class and lose that flag so quickly

[dense herald]

thats how i got 2.6k losing to u?

[cinder thorn]

dude, you're a good player, probably better than me, relax 😉

[wheat jay]

If you two are that high in blitz then you're both boosted

[dense herald]

???

i wouldve been 2.8k by now but i dcd at start of blitz round and when i logged back in i got deserter and lost 200 rating

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kuill-ihave-spoken-gif-15962125

[dense herald]

survival player smh

what are these queue times man

[wheat jay]

Yep

Dh too

[dense herald]

says alot

kidding

man why am i 20min q wait for blitz and ss

[verbal tangle]

They introduced Shuffle's spec balancing to Blitz

[ebon shale]

Every dps has identical wait times

[pale dew]

Hey there, sorry, about the catalyst, shoul i turn all the pieces in to the set?

[fierce elm]

no

[pale dew]

Thanks, i have head and legs, what piece should i go now?

[rancid granite]

try murlok.io see what they're running

i seen a lot of arms going 4 set so thats what i did

💪

[dense herald]

this game is so dog

i won a game at 2.8k mmr,then next game im 2.6k mmr

[dense herald]

ret does not belong there

[rancid granite]

ret belongs in the "wont even make eye contact"

[dense herald]

maybe im a ret

[fierce elm]

die

[rancid granite]

r/worldofpvp is an awful place, BUT

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/1g6vlet/what_makes_a_warrior_great_in_pvp/

this post gave me a lot of motivation to double down on warrior instead of my rogue/pally

hearing thoughts on playstyle and tricks etc opening my mind

[cinder thorn]

stop bullying Afro you bastards

[fierce elm]

yeah you fucks

[rancid granite]

he can just bubble it d/w

[fierce elm]

I got my simp army coming in

[rancid granite]

borhanix cast: intervene

[fickle forge]

Team, I may be onto something here

[fierce elm]

yeah how about you show us a game longer than 2 seconds

[fickle forge]

The game was 2 seconds because of that

[rancid granite]

how many stacks of demo was it

and was the person afk

[fierce kite]

anyway else feel like we are awful since the nerfs?

[fickle forge]

10

And yes, he was in SB so afk

[rancid granite]

spear tho you're in luck

new icon update next patch

[fickle forge]

I'm starting to think this may be the way

You're never going to outdamage anyone as warrior anyway

[willow plover]

Does someone know how to setup framesort so that healer is always on party 1 and dps is always on party 2 in shuffle or 3s ?

I made it so healer is displayed on top as 1 but its always set to be party 2 for some reason, so its out of order

[deep condor]

Anyone know the interaction between the earthen racial and armored to the teeth?

Worth considering or nah

[echo garden]

what do you guys spend your honor on?

[sharp meteor]

bloodstones for sockets/gold

[fickle forge]

Team

I may be on to something

[fierce elm]

where

[sharp meteor]

Warlord's Torment with Champion's might and hope they don't press anything?

[amber heron]

@fickle forge

who made that tier list

[fickle forge]

I did

[amber heron]

its pretty accurate

[fickle forge]

Based on my extreme cognitive experience with people

[amber heron]

i am a frost dk and when i approach i dont really get afraid

i play a lot of specs tho

so it doesnt work

[fickle forge]

Frost DKs are basically just another flavoured arms warr

And blood DKs are just arms mains who wanted to tank for a bit

[amber heron]

the sub being at the bottom

is very very accurate

i feel like DH is wrong tho

DH are liket the scuymmy guy that steals ur girl

[pure hornet]

Still good
There where times when it was 13k a piece

[chilly magnet]

@fickle forge i play spear as well

[fickle forge]

DH thinks they're hot shit while being ugly af though

I only really picture DH players as twinks that have yet to catch a ray of sunlight

Like @wheat jay

[fickle forge]

It's been good value so far

[wheat jay]

eyo

suck my left nut

cuz youre not worthy of the right one

biatch

[fickle forge]

DH mf speaking as if he knows which is left and which is right

[echo garden]

my first shuffle xD

[copper fox]

Huge

R1 push starts now

[amber heron]

Mvq does fit the twink vibe

[hollow ore]

howdy folks, can I use mythic track (6/6 so 639 ilv) instead of using catalyst on pvp pieces to get tier set bonuses in arena?
afaik there's no ilv gap since it's 639 baseline, but there might be a tweak idk about?

[lavish quest]

Nah, it's the same as long as it's 639 and tier

[hollow ore]

that's good news, thanks alot!

[willow plover]

LFG is kicking my ass today

[echo garden]

how do you get tier pvp gear?

[lavish quest]

Catalyst

[fickle forge]

Simps for Snowmixy as well

It's not entirely wrong

[sharp meteor]

Yep.

[fickle forge]

Where feral nerfs @sharp meteor

[fluid jacinth]

Is it recommended to use 2 set for pvp?

I am really trying to get my 1800 rating, but I've progressed more in bg blitz. Played a total of 48 games and only won 21 of them, not fortunate enough to know anyone or get teamed up with someone to do actual 2's or 3's.

Anyone got any suggestions or recommendations? I feel that I am just really unlucky with the team I get stacked together with, it's always one step forwards and two steps back ever since I reached 1500

[fickle forge]

Do solo shuffle

[fluid jacinth]

This is the reason why I don't bother to queue with solo shuffle

[rancid granite]

step 1 dont blame luck/team, step 2 keep q'ing :p

[fluid jacinth]

Easier said then done, the morale get's a daily beating, haha. 😛

[rancid granite]

that's a good thing though it helps you improve

think of it as heavy weights, the resistance just helping you improve

cant go 'these weights are broken and unfair i want easy to lift weights' you cant get better then!

[green wharf]

sometimes you have to blame the team

the other day, i got a dude in eye of the storm who capped the flag while we had two bases

a easy win turned into a painful one, almost lost that one

[rancid granite]

well yeah they can be absolute animals lmao

just gotta roll with it

thats the worst too; the whole team is yellin DONT CAP JUST CHILL, WAIT

guy caps anyway

[fluid jacinth]

Odd comparison really, I can't pull the bg alone against 7 players. I see what you mean, but still.

[rancid granite]

thats my point; that thinking alone gonna keep you down

doesnt serve anything but as an excuse to why you lost and excuse not to look what you did wrong or couldve done better

just general competitive philosophy

[green wharf]

sometimes im fighting hard with another dps in a flag against 4, to keep our base, just to realize, we didnt have any other base

im like, wtf these mofos are doing

[fluid jacinth]

Exactly this, all to familiar with that.

[solar oyster]

great analogy

[rancid granite]

💪

[ruby temple]

Do you guys find you have more success using an aoe leave build or a ST build in blitz as fudy. Been running the arena build to run healers right now

[willow plover]

Does warriors also think that warrior is braindead class?

[boreal veldt]

zug zug

[willow plover]

The more i play and the more i climb i feel like its not just shut ur brain off and hit a target

its a lot like that but u still got to be carefull with ur cc and movement abilties

i guess other classes has more stuff they can do and thats why people say its so easy

[sharp meteor]

It is until you queue into people with hands

Then it's often too easily played around

[rancid granite]

easy 2 play but still has a high skill ceiling

[willow plover]

thats kinda what i mean, my mate just said that its braindead cause all i need to do is press rampage, charge the off dps storm bolt then charge back to main target and rampage again

im like.. bruh u already fucked up so hard

[rancid granite]

i want to be good enough to intervene spell reflect traps and stuff

[willow plover]

Does intervene catch everything like stormbolts and stuff also?

[rancid granite]

no clue

im still learning myself :b

[sharp meteor]

Kited to death

[sharp meteor]

Yes, ranged and melee

[willow plover]

It felt like i managed to intervene a stormbolt today but i might be wrong

but it was pure luck

Just saw healer needed some help so i intervene him

[kind sentinel]

I love intervening touch of death and just dying lmao

[sharp meteor]

Gotta vene before it's midair

But ya can get bolt

[willow plover]

What about freze traps u intervene when u see the hunter throw it out ?

[rancid granite]

[kind sentinel]

You can vene + meld a bolt too if you were curious

[willow plover]

Crazy

[rancid granite]

spell reflect it >: D

[dense herald]

U cant intervene a trap

U can only stack on ur healer and try to soak it

[rancid granite]

easy to zug, but still has a lot of micro abilities to play with

[willow plover]

oh so intervene in the hope of it hiting u

[rancid granite]

yeah

[willow plover]

And then wave in spell reflect there if ur really cool

[rancid granite]

stuff like bladestorming an incoming kidneyshot etc too right?

or dstance swap before it

[willow plover]

u can intervene kidney

[rancid granite]

neat

really need a list of all the important abilities we can intervene/spell reflect

[willow plover]

bladestorm soaks alot of things up most stuns and disarms and shit

its great

[rancid granite]

yeah i was getting bored as hell on warrior but trying to focus on all these little things is breathing new life into it lol

[willow plover]

zercher taught me something cool that made me see fury in a new light

like that there is small sequences of buttons u can press if u could their cd in terms of gcds, so BT for example has a 2 gcd cooldown so u can always weave in 2 abilties after one BT and have another one ready

That works with other buttons like rampage also

[rancid granite]

neat

[green wharf]

not just the brain, the legs, the arms are dead too

i figure it out guys, colossus is a delve spc

doing 4 million crits here

[dense herald]

It was for 2 seasons

S2 and s3 df,well fury atleast,now its easy but in s2 and s3 ur rotation was literally 2 buttons

Bloodbath into rampage

And slam when bt /bb on cd

[willow plover]

its just kinda tilting when people in your group says your class is braindead, its like saying im stupid if something goes wrong when i play it

[dense herald]

Well its rotation is easy but its not easy to bladestorm or dstance stuns or reflect coil

[lavish quest]

Or win

[dense herald]

TRUE

#buffwarrior

[copper fox]

Just remember

[dense herald]

I feel like im developing a spidey sense for coils tho

[copper fox]

9/10 locks are first global coilers

[dense herald]

Sometimes im kn the warlock and i can feel his coil coming

[willow plover]

and im here like wtf is a coil

[hot solstice]

idk why but most demo in shuffle run with aoe fear instead of coil

[copper fox]

Basically if you don’t have haunt or UA on you

Assume a coil

[dense herald]

And spriests always stun u first global for some reason

[copper fox]

Yea they do lol

[dense herald]

I always open with reflect on warlocks and priests

[copper fox]

Same

Again 9/10 aren’t good enough to notice and take it off

[dense herald]

As u play vs warlocks u tend to anticipate their coils

Like if he is kiting u around pillar not casting much be prepared for a coil

[sharp meteor]

I mean they often havoc your partner first.

If they just yolo coil without cross you get dispelled and their whole thing is scuffed.

[bold yarrow]

Massacre vs Exhilirating blows - any opinions here?

[bold yarrow]

Also, is shattering throw necessary for 2s?

[green wharf]

i take both

[green wharf]

only if you are facing a paladin and a mage

but even then i think it depends

[bold yarrow]

maybe if you see mage/pally prematch you just quick pull 1 point out of armored to the teeth or something and give it to shatt throw?

you would lose like 2300-3000 strength from that but maybe it wouldn't be the end of the world

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

Wrecking is sometimes okay but Shatter is niche or can just be ignored.

[bold yarrow]

gotcha, i didnt have it just now and faced 2 frost mages. It didn't hurt me since we won but it was annoying

last q for the night:

I bought an epic PvP weapon after leveling with bloody tokens

I just earned the 2500 conq needed for the achievement tokens.

Should I buy another 2H weapon, or buy 2 1 handers in case i want to try fury?

[sharp meteor]

Fury plays 2 2 handers

Only prot wants a 1h c:

[bold yarrow]

oh sweet

[bold yarrow]

ok I lied one more question.

I have
23% Mastery
19% Versatility
14% Crit
5% Haste

Do I buy haste or mastery pants? I currently have haste / vers but it's a green. Buying my conquest pants now

[green wharf]

bitchboy unholy went to kill me wpvp, forgot this isn't arena and he doesn't have healer

[green wharf]

what spec, arms?

[bold yarrow]

ye

[green wharf]

need to pump some haste i think, 5% is too low

but check murlok.io to see how people are building

[bold yarrow]

ya it seems like my stat priority is way off for arms. Seems like the top 2s guys have a ton of haste

[cobalt gale]

Is tier shoulders a mistake?

I just did it

Idk

[devout wagon]

Oh

I just remembered

but is it this patch next week that we can buy elite gear with whatever char if we get elite on one char ??

[fierce elm]

I mean, we dont buy the elite gear so no?

It gets awarded, dont know how they are doing it with class restrictions and nothing has been mentioned about it

[devout wagon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-pvp-ensembles-coming-with-patch-11-0-5-elite-ensembles-included-346491

[orchid badge]

ive seen high rated warriors using elemental lens now

is it better?

[fluid jacinth]

Hype for this, but also sad that I never got to 1800 on a char during s1 or s2 😦

[devout wagon]

😦

[pure hornet]

No
I think they took free weapons and they cant get embelished so they run next option

[fierce elm]

oh those

It seems to be class specific

from reading the unlock requirements

but why even include them in that case

Only concerning the elite ones, the other ones you can buy on your own character and use

but why make an ensemble for the elite ones since we get those automatically anyways, the weapons are neat though

this is so weirdly fucking worded that I guess we have to wait until tuesday

[devout wagon]

Im almost certain you can buy any elite ensemble for a specific season as long as you have been a 1800 player once during DF with any class

in this said season

[fierce elm]

If they do it like that for the first time ever

would be interesting

[slim brook]

which spec is looking better for solo shuffle fury or arms?

[dense herald]

Doubt

Maybe they make it if uve been 1800 on any char that season u can buy the 1.8k tmog for all classes

[devout wagon]

That’s what I meant

[dense herald]

Ah

[devout wagon]

Terrible English

[dense herald]

I thought u meant if u were once 1.8k in a season u could get all the elite ensambles

Of that expac

The elite tmog is time limited tho

[devout wagon]

Won’t be at this time

[lavish quest]

Technically it just says you have to have earned rival during the season. So maybe you'll be able to buy the other classes'? If say you got it on warrior, maybe you can buy the rest

Otherwise makes no sense

[orchid badge]

why am i winning 5 rating and losing 20?

every game for at least 12 games

(blitz)

[tribal wedge]

cause your rating is above your mmr

or you are facing lower mmr

[orchid badge]

blizzard punishes player for playing bad game

[tribal wedge]

the blitz mmr system is messy anyway

[orchid badge]

i went 11-8 and lost 80 rating

[wheat jay]

All about mmr

You had unlucky matchmaking, happens

[lavish quest]

You ever figure out left from right Artji?

[fierce elm]

He is polish, dont need left and right to pick potatoes

[lavish quest]

I hear they can kill illegals now as well

[fierce elm]

I mean, its Poland

there are no laws there

Pick potato, go home, eat potato, drink potato based alcohol, play CS, repeat

[lavish quest]

So Artji got a bit confused at the play CS step

[fierce elm]

Yeah started palying WoW instead

[lavish quest]

What an idiot

[wheat jay]

eyo fujck you

im #1 arms warrior on my server

in m+

O_O

show some respect

[lavish quest]

I've only seen 1 arms warrior in M+ this expac. And it was some dude on my friends list I think I pvped with once in DF lmao

[wheat jay]

xd

[green wharf]

but you see, there is one dude in the forun saying arms is so good at m+

[copper fox]

It says you had to have unlocked them in their respective season

[fierce elm]

Its weirdly worded

[copper fox]

lol alright. Seems pretty clear cut

[wheat jay]

impossible to time keys with ret doing less dmg than arms

and mage doing 800k in +11

smh smh

ok, possible

if they didn't die on every boss

making dungeon like 5min longer...

[lavish quest]

How'd you find a ret doing less than arms?

Always seems to be one guy going for their death parse.

[wheat jay]

I DUNNO MAN

xD

doing another +11 dawn

lets see how it goes now

[fierce elm]

does it though, like sure, buy your own spec, mentions 0 about buying elite sets on other specs

doesnt say anything about that

For a multi-billion(?) dollar company giving some clear communication iskt impossible

Seeing as all of this is datamined and not something they have spoken out about

its weird as fuck

[lavish quest]

Good on you. I time my 10s and dip

Highest I've done was a 22 because old guildie friends wanted to run it. But we timed it

😎

And afro's right. Something's up. There's no reason for the ensemble for armor if you had to earn it in the season on the same class... because then you'd already have it. For weapons you could say learning weapons your class can't use ig

[fierce elm]

Yeah, so maybe they are introducing that you can buy other specs elite sets post season

[lavish quest]

That would be dope. Last few seasons I grinded out 1800 on like 8 classes give or take a few

Tho I'd prefer it was them making a system for not making them fomo but... baby steps

[green wharf]

It would be dope if they fixed the vicious saddle bug progression

[fickle forge]

I'm throwing off the Murlok stats

[rapid shore]

:D

[lavish quest]

By playing warrior lul

[green wharf]

who is the loser that get spear

ditch spear and bring back venthyr execute

[bold yarrow]

how are arms warriors 1v1 in general? I know it is highly class dependent

[cobalt gale]

Is omnicc broke?

It’s not working for me

[fierce elm]

incredibly shit

[bold yarrow]

ok so its normal that i just got auto attacked to death by a feral

[fickle forge]

Big bench pressers

Venthyr enthusiasts were about as pale as the vampires in that expansion

[dense herald]

you cant win vs feral

[bold yarrow]

oh ok

[fickle forge]

Only way to beat feral is to be a better feral

Where feral nerfs @sharp meteor

[lavish quest]

You see the feet OW twitter post?
They ain't nerfing furries bro

[fickle forge]

Dw, they treasure the scaley furries more than the actual furry

[green wharf]

the expansion itself was crap, but that skill was gold

execute dash with that was peak

[wheat jay]

it was dogshit

[dense herald]

was not

shadowlands is a top 3 expac

[lavish quest]

Why everyone hate warriors being able to get to their target?

[bold yarrow]

Shadowlands was totally ruined by Torghast

[bold yarrow]

Because we get all the girls

[copper fox]

???

[lavish quest]

Shadowlands was totally ruined by shadowlands btw

Should have taken that bolvar cinematic as an omen tbh

[wheat jay]

rn, it'd be fine

back then it was terrible

[lavish quest]

[lavish quest]

Compromise, 40 yd range

We can just be the axe throwers from WCIII

[fickle forge]

AI design

ChatGPT could play shadowlands warrior

[fickle forge]

Gotta appease to the Marry Sue character

[lavish quest]

Where's the issue? Most wow players are worse than ChatGPT so we're still in the clear

[green wharf]

At least you could play warrior

[wheat jay]

everyone was playing warrior in shadowlands tho

#1 class for three seasons

[fickle forge]

Condemn and Exe charge was the most braindead shit

Not as braindead as current feral

But still super braindead

[green wharf]

felt good though

in today meta, it would be neat

[fickle forge]

I mean it's dumb design lmao

And it should stay deleted along with shit like SL ret pala

[green wharf]

dumb design by dumb design, remove evoker from the game then

[fickle forge]

Yeah we can do that

I wouldn't mind Evoker if it had more than 1 button in its rotation and wasn't immune half the game

[wheat jay]

new dh spec when?

[green wharf]

hopefully never

another dumb/braindead class

[wheat jay]

ngl i want new dh spec

evoker got one patch alter

[rancid granite]

ardenweald was a cool zone tho

[wheat jay]

real

zones were cool

theater of pain was thematically 10/10

maybe except the thick african accent last boss xD

[rancid granite]

my only experience in SL

was farming this while waiting on DF to release

lol

chillin in arden for weeks

oh bastion was cool too

skyhold but for paladins lol

[green wharf]

and it ruined pve apparently

wanna gamble again?

[wheat jay]

yes

[green wharf]

[wheat jay]

give me short range

no casting

ranged dh

like bm, but with more abilities and no pets

[green wharf]

sounds disgusting

if melee i already bad

[wheat jay]

why disgusting

imagine devastation without slow/cc immunity

or if mm could only do dmg from like 15 yards

suddenly it'd be much easier to face

[green wharf]

giga mobility, evasion, absurd self heal

and you want then ranged

are you high

[wheat jay]

that's havoc

who's to say other dh spec would be the same

you say giga mobility

ye bro balance has super mobility compared to feral, right?

like, lets be real

it'd be new spec

if it was ranged we could expect longer cd kick too

dh deserves new spec, that's all

[lavish quest]

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