pvp

[green wharf]

i genuinely don't know which class focus crit in pvp

[violet fossil]

dw frost you’d like to get some

[green wharf]

but then you are a colossus arms

[violet fossil]

not focus but have a bit

[elfin surge]

i actually think colossus arms is our best option rn ngl

[pure hornet]

150% is low but still should hit some

[violet fossil]

it hits but you’re better off getting other stats cause the stats are so low in s1

[green wharf]

i don't think a skill that really on the enemy being mentally handicapped is our best option

[pure hornet]

I mean mastery has high damage haste too but a bit of crit might mutiply the total calculations

[elfin surge]

It's not very hard to land if you just cover with a stun but into things like dks you just sit a 10 stack for bleed buffs and play skullsplitter

[violet fossil]

we die to bleeds

we’re supposed to be dead already

where blood

[green wharf]

yuck, skullsplinter and bleeds

🤢

[elfin surge]

Even if demolish is fucked its not hard to restack to 10. Despite unhinged and sweeping no longer interacting with eachother it still works with might stacks giving x2 each unhinged ms

[green wharf]

one day they will rework arms in not a fucking bleed speed

[elfin surge]

yeah its cringe bleeds are dumb

[green wharf]

[elfin surge]

but someone hit a ms that did more than 5% hp so all ms modifiers got nerfed in df

other classes had pvp nerfs removed going into tww, arms didnt.

[green wharf]

i was doing some arms pvp a while ago, nope, def nope

this exp arms is dead to me, might try colossus just for the heall of it, but slayer was keeping me alive with the sudden death proc heal

hard to give up on that

[elfin surge]

colossus is tankier than slayer by a mile

but its still warrior so

[violet fossil]

reroll ret

[rancid granite]

captain american fanboys

[violet fossil]

templar

[green wharf]

can't be orc paladin

[violet fossil]

lol undead will be the next pally race

[elfin surge]

paladin is for noobs

[willow plover]

MUD why do you think colossos arms is the last hope? I think fury still slaps

[fickle forge]

Mud switches hero spec opinion as often as my ex switched moods

[shut drift]

I meant winnig 2.5 ppints of conquest not the cr

I remeber a quest that rewards a weapon after 2.5k conquest acquired but is it stil la thing?

[elfin surge]

slayer and colossus both playable im trying to find where one is better than the other

but its warrior so

[fickle forge]

Train 1 dude = Slayer
Anything else = Colo

[elfin surge]

I guess

[fickle forge]

You gotta consume marks to get value out of slayer

[violet fossil]

Yes it turned into an achievement when you get 2500 conquest

[fickle forge]

Once you swap you lose value

[violet fossil]

And you get tokens

[willow plover]

WIll they remove conq caps soon so i can try have two gearsets one for arms and one for fury?

[violet fossil]

So make sure you’re fury first to get the 2nd weapon discounted

[willow plover]

I have not even tried playing arms this season

[shut drift]

token for what? For a weapon?

[elfin surge]

love that good design thanks blizz

[violet fossil]

Yes

[shut drift]

Where do yo uexhange the token for the weapon then?

[violet fossil]

At the conquest vendorrerrrrrr

Rrrrrr

Te

R

R

R

R

E

E

R

E

[shut drift]

i'm checking

[violet fossil]

The achievement name is called forged weapons of conquest

[shut drift]

okok ty

[green wharf]

"balanced class"

[violet fossil]

the funny thing is

they been like that

and they don’t get touched

[shut drift]

tier set bonus work in pvp?

[elfin surge]

Nullifying = Immune to cc
Walls = Immune to interrupts
Hover = Immune to snares

love that for them

[violet fossil]

yes but they’re all nerfed in half

[shut drift]

so it's worth it for war?

[violet fossil]

prolly

[green wharf]

new shit is always broken so people can feel inclined to play

[violet fossil]

naw it’s been 2 years

Shit isn’t new anymore

[green wharf]

still new per see, DF was previous exp

they will nerf next one

[pure hornet]

Is depths weapon enchant better for target swith? And radiant for tunnel vision?

[green wharf]

im pretty sure they aren't happy how isn't as popular as they though it would be

[violet fossil]

doubt

[fickle forge]

Slayer is a raid spec fr

[fickle forge]

Other way around

[fickle forge]

That one dev who came up with evokers still need to finish the latest R34 art of them before they can nerf them

[violet fossil]

lmao

[green wharf]

dang scallies

[violet fossil]

I’m sure it’s more how they look

[pure hornet]

Is crafted weapon better than free one?

Is that ascendance embelish that big?

I think gives around 1600 free stats

But can be crit haste etc

[green wharf]

like girrafes?

[violet fossil]

furry dragons

[green wharf]

well, im going to sleep´, pray they fix the damn bug of not gaining progression for vicious saddle

in today reset

[violet fossil]

thought they fixed that haha

supposedly*

[rancid granite]

never gonna be able to unsee this lmao

[fickle forge]

You know the game is garbge when even my man @limber relic isn't doing PvP

[copper fox]

Oh yea I know I’m not a reroller tho unfortunately lol

[limber relic]

yea

i bailed

fuck that

[wheat jay]

Wanna do m+?

[limber relic]

trying to do my +11s then i can

[wheat jay]

I can tank

[limber relic]

got the 3 worst 11s left

fml

NW, COT and GB

[fickle forge]

Triple arms warr M+? @wheat jay @limber relic

[limber relic]

im not arms lel

[fickle forge]

We're not playing with this twink my guy @wheat jay

We accept arms only

[wheat jay]

Will you do dmg kargo?

[fickle forge]

I will do emotional dmg to you

[wheat jay]

Sheesh dude

[limber relic]

arms is shit, just like pvp

[wheat jay]

Nah

I do decent dmg

[limber relic]

"decent"

[wheat jay]

Depends on dung of course but i did like 1.6mil in sv 10

Like 1.6m in mists 10

Dawnbreaker i had like 1.3-1.4

[limber relic]

1.6 overall? doubt

[wheat jay]

Mmmm maybe ill have some screenshots, ill check when im home

[wheat jay]

Collosus arms can absolutely demolish keys

[limber relic]

i checked one of my logs

i have 99% parse on SV

with aug

or nvm wasnt with an aug but either way log says 1.2m dps

[wheat jay]

In sv?

[limber relic]

yea

+11

[wheat jay]

Im not logging mine so all I can find is some details screenshots with overall

[rancid granite]

arms PVE is just such a wild concept

[wheat jay]

Its fun

[rancid granite]

anytime i tried i just went fury lol

even if fun, or better, it just messes with my brain

[wheat jay]

Lmao fair

Fury is just braindead zug zug

Always relaxing

[rancid granite]

which is perfect for pve lol

[fickle forge]

Aren't dungeon parses completely scuffed

Like key level inflates your parses immensely

[wheat jay]

He means logged dungeons

[fickle forge]

Same argument

[wheat jay]

You can log dungeons and you have your overall saved

If you dont warcraftlogs get your key level and thats all

[limber relic]

i just mean the dmg

idk

[lavish quest]

PvP chat is really just an M+ chat in denial now

9s are freelo, but no one invites to a 10

[elfin surge]

warrior buffs next week right guys

[fickle forge]

Feral nerf would honestly do more for warrior

[lavish quest]

Mud overdosin

[fickle forge]

I've been doing okay in 2s as arms colo

[lavish quest]

Nerf all ranged

Fix game

Profit

[fickle forge]

Arms+disc to 2k atm

But we just hardly play because we literally lose by default to any hunter/feral/mage team

It's boring man

[lusty talon]

I need some help with intervene macros in solo shuffle, how do i know whats party 1 and 2?

[elfin surge]

yeah war is fun in 2s rn

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

I've had a little success with spear colossus into Rdruid

[fickle forge]

You get Framesort addon and then it'll set it up for you

[lusty talon]

So framesort the party 1 is always top?

[fickle forge]

You can set it up like that ye

Party12 from the top down

You lose, straight up

Like you aren't going to win on damage, it's unrealistic af

So just pick Spear with colossus and try to one shot Rdruid

Build up that x2 OP + 10 stacks might and clap their cheeks

I managed to win one game with a 4M Demo into 4.3M MS

It be like that sometimes

[willow plover]

Is there any way to make my arena original wow raidframes show my party members in order so part 1 and party 2 is in correct order even in shuffle?

[elfin surge]

kargish is a 2v2 expert

[wheat jay]

Kargish is a pve expert now

You will be too @elfin surge

Soon

[elfin surge]

i main Dark and Darker bruh

[wheat jay]

Is it that dungeon survival?

[elfin surge]

ya they have arena now

[wheat jay]

Nice

[lavish quest]

You know they have dungeons in M+ Mud?

Could argue it's the whole thing

[short oriole]

Are you mud? One of the top highest ranked warriors on Murlok.io??

[fierce elm]

he is

he is also a dweeb

[fickle forge]

At this rate yeah honestly

3v3 is the hottest garbage

[wheat jay]

@limber relic 10 mists

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1292130627159855104/image.png?ex=67111e6c&is=670fccec&hm=dfc0956752572f65839f25e5778b4e9fea0cbcbbf4ff159a4b8c985d5a2d493f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=245&height=166

10 nw

[elfin surge]

hehh??

i havent qd shuffle and havent qd 3s in weeks

[wheat jay]

nah

thats not him

Mud is washed

[short oriole]

@elfin surge is that you ??

[wheat jay]

doesn't play anymore

[fierce elm]

thats MUD 2.0

[short oriole]

Oh

[wheat jay]

he can't even get 5 r1s in one season anymore

[elfin surge]

#7 jesus i fell off

i need to get back on that 3s grind tho

[wheat jay]

to get the ugly mount?

[elfin surge]

regain my ego

ive since been humbled

[short oriole]

Damn dude you’re a god

[fierce elm]

is this muds alt glazing him

[elfin surge]

is this kargish alt acc

[lavish quest]

Maybe it's that Jessica egirl

[willow plover]

ok im confident warrior is the worst class in the damn game rn with these shuffle lobbies

cannot connect to a single fucking person everyone plays ranged classes that just kite all over

[scarlet barn]

that DK must have been half afk to get diffed this badly

[wheat jay]

he was 606ilvl 🙂

[fierce elm]

lmao

[scarlet barn]

or that

606 and still creeping in

insane

[fierce elm]

arms sucks

so makes sense

[wheat jay]

yep

can still clear dungs

and do good dps

[chilly magnet]

It does good on trash pulls but subpar om single target boss.

I spiked at 3.5mil in keys as arms col

[fierce elm]

still subpar on trash pulls

because you can't compete with the big specs really

because they constantly have cooldowns

[wheat jay]

depends on boss

some bosses you slap crazy dmg

[amber heron]

I think if u cant bench 225 u shouldnt be allowed to play warrior

And if ur a pussy and are weak and have nothing going for u in life, mage is definilty a grest option

[void meteor]

315*

for reps*

[amber heron]

I can do 2 reps

?

[void meteor]

thats pretty solid bro

true warrior player

[amber heron]

Never been glad

2400 in 2v2 tho

[void meteor]

gotta bench 500+ for glad

[amber heron]

I dont lien to do 1 rep maz

Max

Its counterintuitive for growing

[void meteor]

nah yeah too risky as well as you get older but i was just memeing

[amber heron]

Also some guys stick there chedt out and arche their back

Have grips

Absolute pussy behavior

[void meteor]

wrist straps are valid on anything over 300 imo but anything else is unnecessary

[amber heron]

I want to try using grips im just too lazy

Esp for doing pulling i dont see why u want it for bench

[void meteor]

i thought you were talking about bench and i was scratching my head on the grips

[amber heron]

Or some guys have the elbow sleeves

Thats pretty oussy also

[void meteor]

grips are valid for pulling too, if your back still has energy but you lose your set to grip strength ur leaving size on the table

[amber heron]

Tea my grip gives out a lot

Idk how to train grip

[void meteor]

depends on ur goals though

farmer carrys

45 lb plate finger holds

[amber heron]

Yea sometimes i do it

[void meteor]

rock climbing

[amber heron]

Never do finger holds lmao

[void meteor]

etc

[amber heron]

Like with a 45?

[void meteor]

ye just hold the plate with ur fingers at the top of the plate

[amber heron]

Kind of impossiblr

[void meteor]

not in the slot but only grip str

[amber heron]

For more then 10 sec

[void meteor]

naw its not i used to do those while i was playing football all the time

its hard but like anything else it gets easier

start with a 25 if you cant do the 45

work ur way up

[amber heron]

It cant hurt i guess

Worse case scenario i get arthritis

[void meteor]

you'll get that from wow before u get it from grip training

dw

[amber heron]

Pikaboo

I see has arthritis

He complains about it a lot

[void meteor]

well he also drinks alcohol every day

LOL

[amber heron]

He says he goes to the gym

But i dont see ñrogress

[void meteor]

^

[amber heron]

He says he eats a pound of ground beef a day

[sharp meteor]

I don't think I've ever seen him not drinking.

[amber heron]

He should at least grow

[void meteor]

bro pika is always fried but that mf is funy

funny*

[amber heron]

Yea he is very funny esp when he brings girls on

[void meteor]

and yeah you're not gonna grow if you're flooding your body with cortisol, it literally diminishes your ability to get restful sleep and recover properly

which you would be if you're drinking almost daily

[amber heron]

Put electrolyes in ur alchohol

Im just kidding

[void meteor]

LOL

Prime + Everclear!!!

[amber heron]

I dont drink

[void meteor]

woo!!

i do but rarely lol. It's so bad for you

but getting drunk is fun

[amber heron]

Its just not for me u are sctivily putting poision in ur body

Activly

[void meteor]

precisely. more power to you brotha

[amber heron]

I think it has like some health benefits

[void meteor]

i should quit entirely but a few drinks every few weeks isn't gonna kill me

[amber heron]

Like i remember reading that vodka can kill harmful bacteria

Ir something

[void meteor]

naw dude the "health benefits" you hear the wine moms talk about is literally from like a half of a measuring cup of wine

[amber heron]

No not wine

[void meteor]

not even close enough to get anywhere near effected

[amber heron]

40% liquoor

[void meteor]

uh

[amber heron]

Tequila,

[void meteor]

i mean maybe for an open wound but i doubt it has any proven studies on like benefits to gut health

i could be DEAD wrong

but it sounds absurd

would be interested to see any studies done on that if you are thinking of one in particular dm it to me id read it

[amber heron]

Ill try to find it

[fierce elm]

my wrists hurt 😦

[void meteor]

get you some straps brotha

[fierce elm]

I just put it on anything above 225

same with dips, anything post BW

[void meteor]

i said 300 for like me personally but everyone is different, if they help you use em. no shame in that lol

[amber heron]

I cant find the article bro

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[void meteor]

all good chase xD

[amber heron]

Just stop drinking

[void meteor]

bro i barely drink as is i know how bad it is

[amber heron]

Idk who told me that

Def an alchoholic

[void meteor]

LMAO

probably yeah

anything to justify another drink

sadly

[fierce elm]

Drinking moderately wont keep you from your goals thankfully

[amber heron]

Ya agreed

Once every week or 2 weeks should be ok

I think when u drink tho the next day ur workout is worse

So its not just the cortisol

[void meteor]

bro without a doubt it 100% is worse

I mean the cortisol spiking is just the cause of a lot of negative side effects including the feeling of a worse workout

[amber heron]

If its leg day ur fucked

[void meteor]

because your body didn't recover from a good nights sleep the night before

[fierce elm]

All depends on how mcuh you drink regardless

[void meteor]

but yeah that's just one of the side effects there's a lot more to it

[amber heron]

Mt friend threw up in la fitnesd

Unfort

[void meteor]

LOL

unlucky

[amber heron]

We were going hard tho

[void meteor]

could just be a good workout then :p

[amber heron]

There was so many girls in the gym too

[willow plover]

What state is sub rogue in right now

[tacit swallow]

P4P most slit your throat shuffle comp. WW,Feral,Demo,Afflic

[copper fox]

Just drink a white monster you’ll be fine

[rancid granite]

gr8; but who knows how it'll end up next week

[shrewd blaze]

hey guys I am a noob with the embellishment crafting - I bought conquest gloves this week and was wondering if I can have a crafter add the writhing embellishment from the trade window, or if that embellishment has to be added from an original crafted item. if that's the case, i can craft the boots next week with the writhing on them

[copper fox]

Embellishments can only be on crafted items

[shrewd blaze]

ty

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay How do you stop the hate from flowing?

[wheat jay]

you dont

keep it coming

hate on the rogues

[lavish quest]

10 siege over time by 10s

[wheat jay]

xd

[lavish quest]

Literally 1 less death

[wheat jay]

i tanked 11 today

timed

im BIG tank

[lavish quest]

Rogue, immortal in pvp, floor inspector in pve

Reeee

[wheat jay]

guildies said they're surprised i can tank so well

[lavish quest]

Prot isn't hard to play, just don't let anyone know that 🤫

We are the galaxy brains

You can quote me

[orchid badge]

is there no way to get bloody tokens other than sparks of war?

[boreal veldt]

world pvp quests

and just world pvp in general

[violet fossil]

world pp

[wheat jay]

in all honesty

youdo have piano moments on prot

[granite quest]

hey yall, is it worth using a catalyst charge on a warmonger piece

[lavish quest]

Meh, you just have the APM of a SC2 pro

[wheat jay]

ye

[lavish quest]

I should probably macro ignore pain to every other button

[wheat jay]

nah

[lavish quest]

I'm memeing :p

I just press S every 0.15s

[fickle forge]

There's no shot a filler strike from Demo does more damage than Execute bro

This ability is so piss

[fierce elm]

rolled

[cinder thorn]

I remember there was a wand attack back in the day, even that would hit harder than execute now xD

[frosty flower]

Execute shoulda been renamed something like tickle a long time ago

[cinder thorn]

lol yea

its when they made it spammable

before that it was decent

if they make it spammable they have to drop damage

so they fucked it up then

[frosty flower]

Yeah

Spammable touch of death would be op

[cinder thorn]

I remember when it was like top priority cast and only available at certain hp and it was actually scary to be in execute range close to a warrior

now they gave execute to priest and hunter and so on, its all watered down

and monk

I do kinda miss classic tbf

but I cant be bothered to level up and gear up from scratch

[frosty flower]

Monks is like a 2 or 3 minute cd though

[dense herald]

Slam hits higher than execute

[sharp meteor]

My execute hits pretty hard.

[willow plover]

Is feral supposed to out dps me in arenas?

[narrow compass]

Bounties and War Supply Caches give plenty.

[cinder thorn]

yes, when they blow their cooldowns you die in about 5 seconds without healer

[willow plover]

I found that there is a comp called kittycleave with feral + warr and i tried it but my feral friend tops my damage every game

[cinder thorn]

yeah normal, warrior sux

but its only class I want to play so im stuck with this shit

[willow plover]

What is my role in that comp?

[cinder thorn]

dunno, I only play solo queue I dont have time for teams

other guys will know they do 2v2 3v3

[willow plover]

it feels like the feral is winning the games i only do damage and stun a few times

[cinder thorn]

yes imagine you are tarazan and he's the animals that carry you through life

[willow plover]

lol

[urban skiff]

ms and cc

and also big dam

[narrow compass]

Imagine if we could do that.

Nvm, we could. Earlier in the season

[urban skiff]

Getting a bit warlocky in here

Thought we don't do the whole crying routine in this discord

[cinder thorn]

what do warlocks and spriests struggle against?

[rancid granite]

discord often gets mixed up with livejournal

[cloud meadow]

if they ever removed bop and divine shield

i wonder how many months it would take for paladins to realise they did that

[urban skiff]

depression

[sharp meteor]

irl women

[sharp meteor]

Yes.

[chilly magnet]

Execute used to finish a target off

Long time ago when it was used even if a Healer was healed halfway and you hit execute first the delay would still kill them you would see their health go up from halfway down to zero again

[rancid granite]

ok grandpa

[jovial torrent]

killshot was the funniest cus it hit like a truck and if it didnt kill its target it auto reset so you could double ks

[chilly magnet]

sorry you missed out bruh

[rancid granite]

i was in my prime in vanilla bg's

in memory, anyway

i need to get that big ass claymore back already

i felt so elite in that back in the day

[chilly magnet]

that sword hit like a truck with sword spec

[rancid granite]

i always wished for a windfury totem but 😔

[chilly magnet]

loved to be with shamans back then as well

[stark gulch]

those were the days. no dirty blood elves on the horde. I really did hate playing against pallies in bgs as horde though

like really really

[low cobalt]

blood elves are probably the cleanest most sanitary race on the horde side

NO CAP

[cloud meadow]

i just fucking

BS the pally stun

i even saw it hit me and stunning

but i broke through it

[rancid granite]

only in outter appearances

who knows what kinda nonsense they do behind closed doors 😒

[cinder thorn]

I got it, you just need to get some rating I think 2.4k in rbg and you can get the transmog

[glacial girder]

1800

[green wharf]

jesus, monks are hitting hard

wtf

why cant i hit and move like that

[rancid granite]

yeah 1800

in rbg or rbgb

[hot solstice]

wtf is this blitz?

going 17-3

get 21th game on 2500 mmr

lose that game

and go down to 1800

[copper fox]

You broke out of your placement games and the game tried to play you high

And you lost

So it brought you back down

That’s how placements work

[hot solstice]

so the difference between 17-3 and 17-4 is 700 mmr...great system

[copper fox]

No lol you finished placements. Got placed. Lost. Game put you back down to see if you perform better there

[hot solstice]

1 lose makes such diff…pretty fair

[copper fox]

You’re not understanding

[verbal tangle]

Bro is malding he got assblasted back to shitter land where he belongs

[hot solstice]

Link me ur main

I’ll link u mine

[verbal tangle]

[copper fox]

Lmfao

Dude

[hot solstice]

And will see who where belongs

[copper fox]

You got your post placement game shot. You lost. They sent you back down that’s how it works

[verbal tangle]

Mad cuz bad

[hot solstice]

Ah don’t care…will push through that old way

[copper fox]

✅

[low wren]

do we go insignia or badge ?

for trinket

[wide tiger]

do you ever run slayer as arms rn ? or is it still always colossus

[low wren]

i play fury :\

[rancid granite]

u mean by playing the game?

the good ol fashion q next

[deep epoch]

Oof, I’m at 2k with 63 games played 33 wins

[cinder thorn]

I think he means "meet me outside Stormwind"

[verbal tangle]

[tacit swallow]

Here's my 2 cents. Warriors get fuckrd in alot of comps right now. Slayer will never close that gap. Colossus might possibly sometimes.

[urban skiff]

barely losing to a spriest hpal because I can't layer cc is just ick

[lethal kestrel]

arms = sit perma def stance? or

[urban skiff]

sure, why not

it's like reverse versatility as a stat

as long as you can still kill there's no reason not to sit dstance

[acoustic lintel]

Don't sit D Stance if your not taking any significant dam, sit D Stance if they pop CDs or you are the target

You lose 3% crit from battle and -15% dmg, why would you ever sit it if you are not the target

[jovial torrent]

and macro in battle stance with avatar so you never forget to switch during burst

[urban skiff]

it's -10% done -15% taken to go dstance

Remember dstance isn't just a matter of you losing damage. It also takes pressure off of healer so they can play more offensively. The trade is not black/white

turns out enh is sleeper like i called it

[cloud meadow]

you will not apply any meaningful damage with a reverse offensive cooldown permanently up on you

it also makes little sense to be in dstance if there are no cooldowns used on you

[urban skiff]

Your meaningful contribution is disruption from micro cc, actual cc, utility, ms effects, and big cds (cancel dstance here)

The damage between these things isnt really important if reduced by 10%.

[wheat jay]

?

Rly?

XD

[urban skiff]

Lmao yes.

Bigdams team recked them.

Check their team name

[cloud meadow]

so do that, and dont sit in dstance

[acoustic lintel]

its 15% 15% in pvp you ape, imagine taking advice from this bozo

[fierce elm]

sit dstance

dont be a nerd

[cloud meadow]

dealing damage on cooldown like youre a sub rogue doesnt seem very effective

[fierce elm]

I love Zercher man

his takes always sparks conversations here

[urban skiff]

Bro you're way too serious

[acoustic lintel]

guys why am i 1500 every season -Zercher

[fierce elm]

Especially because people online can't entertain other opinions than theirs without being angry

and resort to personal attacks lmao

[cloud meadow]

i mean

[urban skiff]

everyonw thinks they're cdew lol

[cloud meadow]

sitting dstance as a main stance

is just incredibly bad, not controversial

[wheat jay]

Not really

Its optimal

[fierce elm]

Not talking about you specifically @cloud meadow you seem pretty respectful

[urban skiff]

I'll have you know i just hit 1549 so i'm a pretty big deal now.

According to reddit that's top 3%

[acoustic lintel]

@cope you are arguing with 1500 apes that dont know basic pvp modifiers

[fierce elm]

lmao

[cloud meadow]

good thing im 1600

[wheat jay]

And so we got shadowlands arms meta again

Sit dstance like a pussy

[fierce elm]

tbf even in Shadowlands we didnt sit dstance entirely

we sat it a lot though lmao

[cloud meadow]

but whenever i see my arms shuffle teammates perma camp in dstance, i already know theyre only here for the mount

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz it wad the best play

[urban skiff]

This

[fierce elm]

I think we had like 60% or something uptime on dstance in SL

[wheat jay]

Yep

[fierce elm]

but we also dealt a ton more damage

so the damage reduction in Dstance was neglible

[cloud meadow]

ok but SL was a pvp season

where you would literally

get 1 shot

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

I miss SL pvp tbh

[wheat jay]

Now you rot if your healer cant dish out 1mil hps xD

[cloud meadow]

same

my biggest gripe when i started pvping for the first time in BFA

[urban skiff]

Also the expansion they made dstance asymmetric, right?

[cloud meadow]

is feeling like my attacks are done with foam swords

[wheat jay]

I started in sgadowlands lol

[fierce elm]

SL S1-S3 and BfA s1 goated seasons

[fierce elm]

yeah

[cloud meadow]

everything instantly healed to full, then just win/lose when dampening increases

[fierce elm]

SL was literally just who uses defensives first loses usually

without the micro CC

healers could actually do stuff

[cloud meadow]

i played boomie and my wincon was unironically 3 used interrupts

[acoustic lintel]

MoP Arms was the best version by far. Its not even close

[fierce elm]

Yeah okay boomer

You forfeited your intro to this conversation by being rude smh

[urban skiff]

Hey bro?
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=386208/defensive-stance

-10% damage done, -15% damage taken

[fierce elm]

lmao

[acoustic lintel]

Do you see the little PvP modifier

[fierce elm]

I love baiting

[acoustic lintel]

section or ?

[urban skiff]

It's 1.0

[urban skiff]

I'll make sure to add the 1.0 multiplier next time, m8

[wheat jay]

Nerds

[cloud meadow]

btw

is arms any good now?

[urban skiff]

oooh, they be sneaky

[fierce elm]

Also pretty funny that it specifies that you do less damage in each school

except for holy

[urban skiff]

always was, if you can't play SMF thane

[wheat jay]

Yes

[fierce elm]

no : (

[wheat jay]

Its not s tier tho

[cloud meadow]

better than fury or worse?

[fierce elm]

This is looking like an 1950 season and dip

[wheat jay]

Which for many means its unplayable lmao

[wheat jay]

Cuz it is

[urban skiff]

I only play when it's bad

[cloud meadow]

i just want 1800 like i always get and dip

[fierce elm]

yeah then just run blitz

3v3 and SS are so fucking insufferable

[cloud meadow]

it feels like cheating bruh

[fierce elm]

so is 2s

[cloud meadow]

i cant take blitz seriously

[urban skiff]

shuffle way easier than blitz, idk why

[cloud meadow]

BGs were NOT made for serious pvp

[fierce elm]

THATS A SHAMAN

[urban skiff]

SMF Thane

You ape 🙂

[cloud meadow]

also lowkey

i kinda want a 6-0 win i feel insane for not having one yet

my dumbass completely trolled a very easy game yesterday and ended up 5-1

[jovial torrent]

im honestly close to leveling a second warrior so i can have one with fury secondaries one with arms

[fierce elm]

you dont need a second warrior

you are going to be stuck at the same rating regardless

might as well do it with one character

[jovial torrent]

reforging accesories unfortunatly costs artisian acuity

[urban skiff]

Do it, having doubles is so chill

[urban skiff]

starting next week you should have free conq for experimenting

[jovial torrent]

i think it might be a couple more

[urban skiff]

I just completed my set today with leftover conq

but I'm 1h so

[jovial torrent]

ive still got like 3 or 4 of those bloody coin items equipped

[urban skiff]

Don't worry about bloody token gear

[jovial torrent]

its -3 ilvl

[urban skiff]

that's 30 strength, 100 stam, and 8 secondary stats

on big pieces like chest/head/legs. I did the math

[fierce elm]

@urban skiff was gonna work out today but I gotta wait for my package delivery

and after that I got shit to do

sadge

[urban skiff]

YESSSS!!

[fierce elm]

It arrives between 9:30-16 and if it arrives too late I cant workout lmao

[urban skiff]

I added 1kg to my OHP yesterday without realizing and I could have taken a second rep

[jovial torrent]

i got ill and screwed up my sleep pattern, i wana go do back day today

[urban skiff]

So something happened with my bottom strength

[fierce elm]

1kg on OHP is like adding a plate on bench

dont @ me

[urban skiff]

I was ambitious. went to 89, thought I wouldn't do the 2nd rep and go 94 next. Went full dizzy mode and kids started disrupting training after that so gave up. Now's not my peak week anyways

[fierce elm]

throw the bar at your kids smh

[urban skiff]

I'm making a cardboard weight set for the small one

She wanst to participate so bad. Never seen a 2 year old try so hard to lift 180kg

[fierce elm]

I mean kids love being with their parents generally

Just gotta enjoy it until they start picking up stuff on their own lmao

[urban skiff]

Big one loves playing minecraft and WoW with me. Little one loves being active

I'm in heaven

[jovial torrent]

which healer are you guna make her play

[urban skiff]

prevoker

[fierce elm]

whatever is S tier kek

[jovial torrent]

smart, hook her in with how to train your dragon

[urban skiff]

Got a D&D adventure for kids I'm gonna run with the big one

That's gonna be awesome

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to have kids tbh

introduce them to the shit I do constantly

see what sticks

[fallen estuary]

I found a way to become suoer tanky as fury

And with it i just dug myself out of a 300 mmr debt on fury

[urban skiff]

was it 100% dstance + running up deathwish stacks and then popping out of dstance for cooldowns?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

That's what I'd do. it's like confusing your muscles at the gym

[fallen estuary]

No

It involves sitting in dstance but wo the dmg delt reduction

[urban skiff]

DSTANCE DEATHWISH

[fallen estuary]

You can literally survive any groupfight and survive

Uh no not deathwish

[urban skiff]

Are you going to share with the class what you're doing or do I have to keep memeing at you?

[fallen estuary]

Im not sharing it lmao

[urban skiff]

This is the best part of life

[urban skiff]

I'm playing SMF thane so you can tell me

I'm basically disabled

[fallen estuary]

I got work rn ill tell you in 10 hours or 12

[urban skiff]

bro I'll have forgotten you exist 2 minutes after your name scrolls out of this box

[fierce elm]

ruudeee

[urban skiff]

If I don't have a mirror I'll forget to exist

[winged quest]

Hello guys, do you know when the conquest cap will be gone ?

[urban skiff]

week 11, we're currently in week 5 or 6

[winged quest]

ty

[urban skiff]

It's always close to, or after, the week where we can theoretically buy a complete set of conquest gear for the current cap

(but not for fury)

[copper fox]

The best way to become tanky is to just simply kill someone on the team as fast as possible so there’s less people hitting you

[urban skiff]

Back when I was doing pve we called this "Warrior CC"

[copper fox]

Best cc tbh

[rancid granite]

make them panic run and mash all defensive

throw their mental off

source: happens to me

should see me panic mash vanish cloak and evasion same time

[fickle forge]

Demolish has gotten me a lot of panic CDs

Hit that Shockwave+Demo and you grab Karma, PS and Fortifying

[wheat jay]

And still lose

[copper fox]

It’s fine. SURELY warrior doesn’t see another nerf right

[elfin surge]

Colossus gaming

[wheat jay]

slayer getting nerfed next reset tho

[cloud path]

some1 have shadowmourne weakaurea for weapon proc effect?

[copper fox]

Is it the notes we all saw already or there’s newer ones

[wheat jay]

saw already

[copper fox]

Ok phew

[wheat jay]

overwhelm stacks reduction iirc

[copper fox]

Yea

[vital breach]

How is prot war doin in blitz ? Ij terms of output and flag carry

[sharp meteor]

dmg is good

gets eaten by bdk

can't carry flag usually

[urban skiff]

Honey wake up

Skillcapped's new tier list is out

The REALISTIC solo pvp tier list

for people who are mid

[rancid granite]

A tier? it's joever pack it up bois uninstall

that being said i always wanted a MM

[urban skiff]

Now's the time if you're a mid player

one day I too will be great and rise above below average

[rancid granite]

it could always be worse... @ afro :)

[urban skiff]

fuck I'm loving this

[celest pike]

A tier must be a joke isnt it?

maybe I'm too biased but it feels horrible to play right now

[rancid granite]

maybe just bad

[celest pike]

thats savage bro

[rancid granite]

cant get better if you just blame the class

[urban skiff]

This is for average players

[lavish quest]

Can't fix class if we just say git gud

[urban skiff]

Unless we spontaneously turn into devs we can't fix the class regardless of what we say

[lavish quest]

Sure we can, how do you think war got fucked? Others crying about it dealing damage. Once. On a Sunday morning. Through a storm. When the other guy DC'd. Once. It simply had to be nerfed

[rancid granite]

A tier not bad spot you know, when B and C tier exists

[lavish quest]

A tier is not bad

[urban skiff]

Just switch to SMF thane

[lavish quest]

I wouldn't say war is A tier

[urban skiff]

Like it's the goat. You get to blow up mages and devs and laugh while doing it

[rancid granite]

be thankful we're not ret

[elfin surge]

what is this for

shuffle tier list?

[rancid granite]

beginner friendly list

lol

[lavish quest]

Misleading community

[urban skiff]

"solo pvp tier list for average players (not top players") or something

https://youtu.be/EZuCmOKXKAM

[elfin surge]

oh

[sharp meteor]

fury on same row as rogue

[urban skiff]

They have a point that some things work better at different skill levels so I'm not hating

[sharp meteor]

bigmoran is so dumb and bad

[elfin surge]

yeah warrior at 1400 probably not that bad

[copper fox]

Lmfao

[urban skiff]

I just like posting the lists so people have something to talk about

[lavish quest]

That's what it is? Rofl

[copper fox]

Bigmoran fell off so hard with age

[urban skiff]

Keep content fresh

[lavish quest]

Hell yeah, warrior meta as long as I stick to my 1200 lane

Who tf wants to win only at low ratings?????

[urban skiff]

tbh that's the most fun place to be

[lavish quest]

People want numba go up

[urban skiff]

This graph says I'm going to have a bad time since I play enh and aug and prot

[elfin surge]

why do you play aug and prot

[sharp meteor]

[urban skiff]

fury too stronk, I don't like it when things are too easy

[lavish quest]

Warrior is A tier as long as the mages don't bind blink and backpedal

[urban skiff]

same reason I play Elden Ring on RL1

[lavish quest]

Fury isn't stronk

[elfin surge]

fury is dogshit now

[urban skiff]

too stronk isn't necessarily stronk

[sharp meteor]

Hmm? Fury isn't very good.

[urban skiff]

People please read what I'm writing

[sharp meteor]

I mean into 1300 shadow priests it is I guess.

[urban skiff]

Too stronk (for me), not too stronk (wins all the time with no effort for anyone)

[rancid granite]

rl1??

[elfin surge]

People please read what I'm writing

[urban skiff]

rune level 1, no levelling

[sharp meteor]

Prot unironically probably better than Fury for you lmao

[rancid granite]

oh rune level i was like wth

[lavish quest]

Why are you a professional hipster

[urban skiff]

I'm not

I just don't play fury when fury is stronger than arms

[rancid granite]

meanwhile im sl120 full int mlgs build shotting nukes out

[elfin surge]

venruki does the same thing (then logs his s++++ tier mage)

[lavish quest]

Fury isn't stronger than arms

[urban skiff]

I never beat the game at RL1, lost interest after the giant.

But i don't like when the bosses die too fast

[copper fox]

Venruki says warrior is too strong then goes 1-5 against casters

As a Tauren warrior

[urban skiff]

I guess it's all the monster hunter I'm playing

[rancid granite]

boss dying fast fine when they beat me equally as fast lol

[urban skiff]

should go kthuman instead

[copper fox]

Truth

[sharp meteor]

open ven stream of him pushing brew

[urban skiff]

I beat the game before they buffed powerstancing. Full strength fat-rolling. And I was just facetanking malenia until she dropped dead

[sharp meteor]

goes 0-6 3 lobbies in a row cos casters logs out

[urban skiff]

Just strength dualwield colossal weapons

Idk, it's just too easy compared to monster hunter

[rancid granite]

lmao i guess i never did too much of cheese builds

[urban skiff]

I don't think fat rolling is cheese 🙂

[rancid granite]

malenia was harder than the dlc for me still 😭

[urban skiff]

And it was before they buffed it so recovery time after jump attacks meant you would always take a counter hit

For anyone wondering, i play gunlance in monster hunter.

It's just perfect amount of ridiculous

So yeah. Enh, prot, aug

Enhancement is gunlance.
Prot is like Sword and shield.
Augmentation is like hunting horn.

I guess I have a type

[copper fox]

lol rip

My 2100 lobby last night as fury was me + 3 warlocks

I went 4-2 because one of the destros was throwing

[urban skiff]

fuuuuck that sounds fun

I'd love that lobby

anything that isn't hunter

Not that I mind hunter, I just don't like that they're ranged but immune to half my kit

[copper fox]

Yea I’m just glad to q into anything that isn’t hpal/mage/hunter

Both healers were rdruids so

[urban skiff]

idk how i feel about rdruids

The average ones gets deleted with a tabtarget

[sharp meteor]

5x the effort for 35% the results of a drunk hpal

[urban skiff]

The good ones are somehow immortal

[urban skiff]

is hpal good at the moment?

[sharp meteor]

man

[copper fox]

Hpal just screws me over in ss

Every time

[urban skiff]

I may be masochistic but I'm not so bad I'd pick a bad healer for trying out healing

Skillcapped says hpal is s-tier

[copper fox]

It is

Especially against warriors

[urban skiff]

why especially against warriors?

[copper fox]

Bop / freedom

[urban skiff]

Ooooh it's "hpal is especially bad amonst healers"-deal. I thought you meant it like "hpal especially prefer facing warriors"

different perspective althought both could still be true

[lavish quest]

Hpal prefers phys dmg over magic

Besides they prob prefer fighting war cause we're weak

[copper fox]

I mean I don’t ever want to play against a hpal when I’m qing lol

[urban skiff]

again, i kinda like them on enh

i don't even know what my worst matchup is

probs sham

[copper fox]

Yea enhance can handle it with the purge and spells

I’d agree rsham

[cloud meadow]

i think if mages did not forget you can actually swap back to hitting them if they waste teleports

id actually deal 0 dmg

[copper fox]

I love doing drive bys against mages and making them panic

[rancid granite]

i realized i was a cloest weeb with this.. always the swordsman and the ninja type; swordsman always had a katana

so i just play the samurais and ninjas

but i could find an alleria windrunner bodypillow

[urban skiff]

Tbh, I'm the bodypillow

I always play the hulk, behemoth type

I have a difficult time playing something agile or magic

Enh feels like it should be strength based tbh

[chilly pivot]

When they nerf all Casters? No one playing melee comps now 😦

[urban skiff]

Why would you ever want that?

Winning feels infinitely better as the underdog

Punching up is satisfying. Punching down is degeneracy

[chilly pivot]

Yeah bit hardstuck 1.9k in 3s is not fun

[urban skiff]

I get it

but isn't it better to be hardstuck at 1900 because you're facing a challenge instead of being hardstuck at 2900 because you've run out of easy targets?

[chilly pivot]

Then i have gladiator title and can uninstal 😮‍💨

Its my goal

[cloud meadow]

there is no feeling ilke getting 20k strength from a feral druid

when you play dark iron dwarf

and just proceed to shit on everybody

[urban skiff]

I'd regret not having that button

but my shaman looks great as draenei so

[chilly pivot]

Any 2k+ warrior in 3s here who can help me with some tips

[copper fox]

They don’t nerf casters

Don’t be silly

You must find a caster and join forces

[chilly pivot]

They need buff us then

[copper fox]

Play warrior / sp

[urban skiff]

We get buffed automatically as seasons progress

Warrior scale really well because we don't have any bad stats

[chilly pivot]

Hm okey

[cloud meadow]

they need to add DR to slows

and melee will be fine to play

or give us better slows

[rancid granite]

just charge to them

[cloud meadow]

leap should apply a slow

[urban skiff]

leap should do aoe shockwave, damage included.

[cloud meadow]

i find it unbelievable how bad shuffle is to play, i think ill just swap to blitz to get my 1800

all it takes to gain 0 cr and 30 minutes wasted

is 1 bad player, and 1 decent player that forgets to press 1 cooldown

[hot solstice]

Better delete this shuffle mods.

[low wren]

yo should i go on use badge or passive insignia for conquest trinket ?

[echo garden]

is fury the go to for pvp right now?

[willow plover]

Fury works great for me still

[low wren]

i was assuming badge for big pumps with cds but idk dont wanna waste conquest at this point

[orchid badge]

i like playing prot in pvp more

[urban skiff]

MY MAN

[echo garden]

thanks, going to start out pvp and grind the meta shortly

[orchid badge]

its fun to be unkillable

[urban skiff]

@verbal tangle another is vying for divinity

[final epoch]

is it a focus on verse mastery or vers haste? pvp guide says vers mastery but the description says haste is most importnat

[urban skiff]

Haste to taste, mastery for the rest

For some people that's a lot of haste. For others it's zero haste

I prefer going all out mastery, no limits

I'm an outlier, don't listen to me

[copper fox]

I play as little haste as possible

[low wren]

which trinkets are u guys running in pvp ?

[final epoch]

would figure mastery over hsate you get haste from enrage

[low wren]

outside of medallion

[copper fox]

I never run the on use trinket

[urban skiff]

So 1k from trinket and some from 2-set?

[copper fox]

Yes

[urban skiff]

I only run the on-use when using the honor and swap to proc trinket for conq because the on-use has crit instead of haste

If I were arms I'd probably still go on-use because crit isn't bad on arms

[copper fox]

I’m going to play the on use for my colossus arms alt

100%

[urban skiff]

mad respect

peasants avoid crit

Thanes don't fear crit

Thane used like king, not the mountain thane hero talents

[cinder thorn]

how is warrior pvp on classic and the other one, cataclysm or something? how long would it take me to fully gear a warrior once its max level on those wow versions?

[urban skiff]

lol, do you have a job?

[low wren]

ty

[final epoch]

no idea xd

[cinder thorn]

yes and kids 😄

[urban skiff]

Not being snide, but you're going to have to invest some time on classic to get anywhere

[cinder thorn]

what about the other one

cata

[copper fox]

Dude warrior is not the same as it is in retail

[urban skiff]

Cata was the first expansion with accelerated levelling so probably less

[copper fox]

It plays 1000000% differently

[urban skiff]

best described as outlaw rogue without any rogue skills

[cinder thorn]

I know I played wow since it was released, im more concenred how long it would take to gear up

[urban skiff]

Man feral was fun back in vanilla

[cinder thorn]

so how long would it take to fully gear up in cata and in vanilla

[urban skiff]

I miss afk'ing in the middle of AV to get my Rank12 pvp

[rancid granite]

and that big ass pig hammer

[urban skiff]

fuck yes

The unstoppable force

[urban skiff]

Main reason I got into pvp was getting that from AV

[cloud meadow]

do you guys also pop ever offensive as soon as u touch someone round 1?

[rancid granite]

i felt so OP with it, next step up was the claymore i think

[urban skiff]

Only if she's a real 3d girl

[urban skiff]

I went unstoppable force -> +armor staff from zul gurub(?)

[rancid granite]

i think i remember that

[urban skiff]

I was tanking/dpsing as feral in vanilla

A true wild child

20 years ago now. Absolutely wild

Still would feel like a nerd if I got a WoW tatoo despite the game having had a role in my life for 20 years, and being the direct reason I have my family.

[rancid granite]

🥹

https://www.etsy.com/search?q=hearthstone

good alternative

[urban skiff]

Sent them to my wife

She approves

[rancid granite]

i just keep a nerd corner of trinkets and memorabilia and figurines

beats the tattoos

[urban skiff]

Same, but they're LEGO

still waiting for the WoW collab with LEGO

Got LEGO wrecking ball + LEGO bastion which is sort of a decent alternative

[rancid granite]

is there no custom lego making sites?

[urban skiff]

Sure

[rancid granite]

$_$

[urban skiff]

but I only just now ventured into buying single bricks to build

Bought the LEGO D&D mimic single-piece from pickabrick. Reduced the cost by 80% compared to buying the set

Downside is waiting a month for delivery

[fickle forge]

@sharp meteor Where are the feral nerfs

[urban skiff]

m8 we talked about this. They're hotfixed in 1-2 weeks into patch 11.0.5

[sharp meteor]

It's a Thursday.

[fickle forge]

Where they A T

W H E R E
H
E
R
E

[urban skiff]

They aren't going to hotfix anything before the patch..

[fickle forge]

Conjure them up right the fuck now

[urban skiff]

I can transport you instantly to the feral hotfix day

All I need is a hammer, and your head

[fickle forge]

Yeah nice joke, everybody knows ret tickles rn

[urban skiff]

I'm SMF THANE

I double dog dare you to say I tickle

[fickle forge]

Yeah you definitely tickle lil' bro

That's some 4'8 energy

[urban skiff]

I'll tickle your lil bro

[fickle forge]

I am the lil' bro

I only got big bros

[urban skiff]

Come get tickles

I can't wait for 11.0.5 when you ask for enh nerfs and forget all about ferals

[wheat jay]

Lil'kargy

[fickle forge]

Enh sham is never gonna be a thing bro

[urban skiff]

enh on PTR is bugged

[fickle forge]

Feral rn is a bug

[urban skiff]

Can have 50-100% uptime on ascendance

[fickle forge]

?

[urban skiff]

See now I got your attention

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[fickle forge]

I mean yeah I was an ascendance enh player

[fickle forge]

But aren't they giga nerfing the ascend form?

[urban skiff]

Ascendance procs from lightning bolts instead of stormstrikes.

But apparently can proc off of its self-cast lightning bolts AND ride the lightning

I'm all set for a big push on reset day before they fix it

[fickle forge]

Ah so you just hammer storm strikes and proc the chain lightning

[urban skiff]

Nobody's gonna know what hit em

yea pretty much

[fickle forge]

And the bolts?