pvp

[fierce elm]

Blue name has approved

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-nope-no-nuh-uh-no-way-gif-21846503

[lavish quest]

Says is Mr. Big PvPer only. Plays prot...

Peepo_Cringe

I dunno actually, I haven't done a ton actually. A lot of Grim Batols lol

[brisk meadow]

Hey lads and ladies, should I be pressing Avatar + Reck together, or make use of berserker's torment to try to bait defensives with just one

or is go face the way to go

[rancid granite]

just don't forget avatar is a root breaker 👍

[fierce elm]

go face

[fierce elm]

Lowkey love Stonevault

Grim batol can suck my nut

[brisk meadow]

I like hte sound of that

[fierce elm]

Why is d i c k a banned word again

[brisk meadow]

😂

[wheat jay]

farming arakara for trinket now 😦

kill me

[lavish quest]

That's also one I've done a lot. Mobs in there hurt

[lavish quest]

Ez dung, git gud

[wheat jay]

ye

its ez

but loot is rng 😦

[cinder thorn]

im sick of noob druids who just dot to get lots of damage but they do shit single target

[quaint zenith]

any good up-to-date arms guides? never played it (barely played fury) and I wanna give it a go

[willow plover]

Yooooo how do you lose 200 rating at 1300

[tribal wedge]

leaving

[willow plover]

Ohh

[cinder thorn]

go to icyveins or wowhead search for pvp guide arms

also check pins

mud has posted some

you dont need super up to date one, just make some adjustments urself anyway

if u want super up to date check murlok.io and go to arms warrior

but theyre not guides just what other people at top are doing

[tacit swallow]

Pins are pretty dry. Fyi

[rancid granite]

can always just ask questions or use search function too

[fallen estuary]

@willow plover the forever victim that complains on the forum that he can never wim but rage quits

[willow plover]

Crazy lol

[hot solstice]

saturday evening my thunder facing same fmpala 3 times in a row on 2k cr(with muilti r1 mage)...is game realy that dead?

[boreal veldt]

bajheera has a decent guide on his youtube for arms if you want to play crit colossus, if not then i'd say look at the other top arms players on drustvar

[wheat jay]

Colossus feels very cheesy

Pray for oneshot

[green wharf]

Guys, if possible, report the bug of vicious saddle progression in the bnet launcher

no matter how many times you win, you don't get % for it

more than 20 days and the bug isn't fixed

[boreal veldt]

i got to 1839+ with the cheese so

but now everyone just melds the demo so it's just mindgames and hoping for big ms hits and bleeds to do all the work

[lavish quest]

I have at least 15 saddles in the bank, we're good

[green wharf]

but i never got one, help a brother out

[lavish quest]

Tbh, it's probably just a visual bug

Have you tried checking your progress with the script?

[green wharf]

no, but its happening to a lot of people

[fickle forge]

You are above 1k rated right

[green wharf]

yeah, im not that bad

[fickle forge]

Yah I'm just double checking bro

[green wharf]

after you get the vicious skyflayer, the % doesn't go up

[lavish quest]

Tbf, 1k rated is guaranteed if you win like 7 or 8 games lol

You can't lose rating till like 1200

[green wharf]

some people reported they could hve at least 2 saddles, by the amount they won

[lavish quest]

Some people lie. Check the script

[green wharf]

i have three classes at 1600, i got to that and stopped, cause the darn bug

[green wharf]

whats the script

[lavish quest]

Just Google vicious saddle progress script or something. Some forum post will have it for you

Copy paste in game and it will tell you prog

[digital rover]

What are you arms chads using for your hero talents in shuffles?

[green wharf]

i don't think there is one, i searched here and didn't find

[boreal veldt]

if you're looking for a cursed colossus build

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AgtZMzMmxMz2sssNGAAAAMYaGzMYYGYYMzM2MPwAzAzYGAAAAAAAMjZZMGglYYssNLmZbYzwwMzMtRzwMsA

it is as i said, cursed, don't press avatar until you want to one shot

it will work 10% of the time

[lavish quest]

Whatever hero talent feral or rogue is playing

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-player-speaking-wow-gif-27271750

[digital rover]

oh so arms is in the same state as dk then

gotchya

[boreal veldt]

at least arms has a fun bonk

[digital rover]

have people unanimously decided that ret, dk, and war shouldn't que then? lol

[boreal veldt]

@elfin surge where colossus/demolish emoji

we demand :bonk: emote

[rancid granite]

your name is fitting for these kind of statements

well I guess that was a question but I wanted to tease you and call you a doomer

queue war all you want nothing wrong with it

[digital rover]

i main dk. unfortunately comes with the personality lol

[digital rover]

but is the aformentioned build what most people build into for arms?

[boreal veldt]

god no

[digital rover]

lol oh ok

i haven't really worked on my arms war much this season so getting her worked on

[boreal veldt]

best idea is to look at some top arms boys from the drustvar website for top solo shuff arms warrs

they've got the most consistent high rated builds

[digital rover]

arite i'll take a looksies some time

[rancid granite]

murlok.io

[silk steppe]

I like Colossus.

[tidal rain]

is there any way to refund the heraldrys ?

cuz i made the sword like a dumass

[copper fox]

No

[tidal rain]

shit

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[tidal rain]

i'm so confused as to what gear i should go for arms

most high ranked arms war on websites are actually fury

[chilly magnet]

I close to get crit up as arms

Chose

Arms Colossus

[tidal rain]

isn't crit bad asf ?

playing slayer

[chilly magnet]

Slayer u may want haste

[tidal rain]

i think i'm kinda fuked cuz i'm 2896 conquest spent on crafted sword and two gear set pieces with 4 heraldry in inventory, i'll need 400conq above the cap to get set bonus and craft 2 pieces

[sharp meteor]

Crit honestsly seems kind of okay on arms (and prot).

[chilly magnet]

You didn't get the 10 free heraldry?

For the weapon?

[tidal rain]

i did but still

imma be short

cuz i can't freaking sell my heraldry

[hearty vault]

prot? no one prot has more than 2k2 rating on blitz, true?

[boreal veldt]

col gets that extra 10% crit damage so it doesn't feel as a bad as other classes in pvp

[hearty vault]

well, now fury, and always arms, are useless on blitz without a healer in your back

[chilly magnet]

You'll still need heraldry to craft for second embilshment

[sharp meteor]

Uhhh I've been playing Blood more but prot feels okay

warr in general feels bad in blitz

cos you just defend the fc

[tidal rain]

so i'll basically not be able to get my set bonus until next season ?

😦

[sharp meteor]

Hmm?

[tidal rain]

i spent 2600 conq and i only have 2 pieces

[jovial torrent]

u should have 3 of the threads to turn pvp items into tier

• one spelunking thing to use

[hearty vault]

yes, people was happy cause of "OP Dmg" first weeks. When we got 0 new kits against CC or defensives skills. Warrior with nerf dmg = useless.

[tidal rain]

ye but i need the pvp items first lmao @jovial torrent

[jovial torrent]

honestly doing yourself a favour delaying your grind with this squashed mmr lol

[tidal rain]

noo

but fr

this is so sad

like

why can't we sell the heradlry

[jovial torrent]

u can use the heraldry to craft a armour piece and turn that to tier

[sharp meteor]

like its okayish in brawls but like

[tidal rain]

i ain't ever gonna make it up the ladder without my 4p

[sharp meteor]

brawling is bad in blitz

u cant sit node you can't take node you cant carry flag you dont rly score kills

[tidal rain]

already did weapon and i need the 2 embelish

[jovial torrent]

ah, my war was my alt so i go the quest weps , crafted rings + neck with embelish

[hearty vault]

@sharp meteor exactly and we wont get changes next patch, cause "warriors op dmg first weeks"

[tidal rain]

great

[prime solar]

Doesn't happen often but when it does

[tidal rain]

👏

clapped

[rancid granite]

that shout at the end :chef kiss :

[jovial torrent]

@prime solar collosus been going well for you? ive only tried slayer so far

[fickle forge]

You saw it here first

[prime solar]

I like both equally I think. Depends on shuffle or BG

I'd like to see demolish work like fists of fury or something. I think the design of it doesn't fit with how wow works lol

[chilly magnet]

Do we get a new threaten on tuesday?

Thread

[amber heron]

warrior fucking blows bro

feral is literally having my whole team at -20%

and im stuck here putting up a 15k rend

[severe skiff]

Feral is broken

[river walrus]

Hey guys, arms still sucks?

[amber heron]

lets put it thise way

id rather be 2v3

with no warrior

both talent trees dont do anything

slayer adds nothing every fuckign thiing is passive, passive passove

and demolish? people jut fucking move out of it or cc u

the only one thats halfway decent is moutnain thain on fury

[verbal tangle]

Little bro acting like Thane isnt just passives either

Slayer's are just more pointed

[fierce elm]

Thane has a button prompt at least

[verbal tangle]

That's because it's effectively Reckless Abandon for a button you'd never take otherwise

Slayer's is "if you aren't Bladestorming you are 40 IQ"

[fierce elm]

I like it

Dont like the purely passive hero talents at all tbh

I like having something new to hit

or semi-new even works

[verbal tangle]

Colossus might have been fine if it wasn't in a wheelchair

They looked at Fyr'alath and decided that people liked rooting themselves

At least Colossus Prot has Dragon Charge > Demolish

[willow plover]

Im considering trying thane in bgbs, i think its easier to spin the flag with that spec than just randomly spamming whirlwind tanking ur damage with slayer

Why is ppl saying arms sucks? Wasnt arms the thing u play now cause fury was nerfed?

[vapid tartan]

you play slayer on node maps to win small fights with st, once you have the node you just play to stop their dam usuallly and if its just a 1v1 slayer is better anyway. Thane is better when youre constantly cleave teamfighting like on silvershard or deephaul

either build is good tho it just depends on situation

[willow plover]

I mostly felt like i need thane on arathi basin, eye or gilineas

[vapid tartan]

on ab you should play slayer

[fierce elm]

I mean you sre also a warrior, if you are defending base alone its already not good

[vapid tartan]

eye and gilly thane is good

[willow plover]

Its more for the big teamfights like on WW on gilieas its easy to lose the flag cause im just hitting whirlwind to spin the flag and i cannot really do a full dps rotation if im the only or we are low on melee

But i prefer slayer on most maps cause i can just focus their healers down really easy

[vapid tartan]

its not bad in blitz just have to move to nodes doesnt rlly matter about class

[fierce elm]

Personally I think you are reading into this a lot more than needed

[vapid tartan]

ya those maps always thane

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah, but in the end you wanna be in a thick fight

In comparison to other specs

Personally would just pick one hero talent and stick to it

[vapid tartan]

yea ideally but in reality you have to rp as a dh most games

cause ppl wont do it themselves

[willow plover]

This is what ive been running in bgbs for almost 200 games now

[fierce elm]

Try thane out, its a lot of fun tbh

[vapid tartan]

ye

[willow plover]

I do run thane in pve

[fierce elm]

Love being a fucking lightning boy

[vapid tartan]

the clap lightning is p sick ngl

[willow plover]

Last night i won 6 bgbs in a row and i started getting into 2k lobbies

[tribal wedge]

my dream

i started the season as fury and sky rocket to 2k4 mmr, i switched to arms 2/3 weaks ago and i'm struggling to get out of 1k5 🙃

[willow plover]

People say its skill issue but im pretty convinced u just need a lucky streak cause 1500-1700 is a complete mess

[silk hamlet]

Hey folks new to the scene, unsure which way I should start my climb to 1800. Fury or arms? Does it matter? Are they pretty equal?

[tribal wedge]

to 1k8 it doesnt matter, play the spec you pref

and tbh it's pretty equal now

[silk hamlet]

Is arms more bloated? Or would you say it’s about the same? Does one provide anything more in blitz?

[tribal wedge]

it's about the same imo, maybe fury is a bit ahead, but i don't think it's gonna make a difference

[urban skiff]

DID SOMEONE SAY THANE

[green wharf]

i do think arms is more bloated than fury, but try both and see what fancies you more

[verbal tangle]

Thane is only OK if I have Thunderfury equipped

[willow plover]

What do u guys swap over to if warriors gets too miserable to play?

[dark topaz]

into a 2M ms hit

[urban skiff]

he doesn't know about the secret tech

[fierce elm]

Ret because warrior sucks

and ret is like warrior but less aids

[wheat jay]

survi

but its also ass

[verbal tangle]

Prot

@urban skiff I pissed off a BM Hunter yesterday

I equipped Thunderfury into his Stampede as Prot and he did negative damage lmao

He was assmad as fuck

[willow plover]

what is thunderfury that u guys talking about so much

[verbal tangle]

The sword from MC

If you are a tab target tard like yours truly, you can apply the fattest of AS debuffs

It's pretty disgusting into melee comps

[willow plover]

damn is it the attack speed that destroys them or what? This weapon seems pretty garbage in terms of stats

[silk hamlet]

@green wharf will I need different armor sets with different stats for each spec?

[fierce elm]

Not really no

[green wharf]

don't think so

i think fury preffer mastery and arms haste, but both add good

[brisk meadow]

is shockwave hitbox not the worst thing in existence

[rancid granite]

take imp Shockwave it's op

[fickle forge]

Rumbling Earth slaps

[brisk meadow]

mby

the visual hits but the stun doesnt

:c

[willow plover]

Sometimes some bgbs feels like those old russian premades cause the enemy team is so coordinated that my team dont get a single kill

I die instantly and end the match with like 10m damage done in total

[brisk meadow]

I feel like I'm doing low dmg in SS

is it just hte lack of enchants and 639 weapons

or tier

or am I ass

or both

[rancid granite]

lmao I can't even be mad at those matches I'm too impressed by their performance

sometimes randoms just vibe hard together

[brisk meadow]

fr

[willow plover]

Disc priests are becoming unkillable

[silk hamlet]

Thinking about rolling arms, any builds yall recommend?

[fickle forge]

Probably a decent V-shape or strongman build

As long as you got big biceps

[silk hamlet]

Lmao true

Does either outperform in team fights?

[verbal tangle]

Fury is usually better in teamfights (Slayer/Thane procs + damage profile)

[silk hamlet]

Good to know ty, haven’t tried thane yet.

[tidal rain]

what happens if i go full crit for arms ?

will being low on haste cripple me ?

[copper fox]

Yes

[jovial torrent]

they need to gut monks

real temtped to just gear mine

tired of the 2 dashes across wsg

[brisk meadow]

disc dmg honestly is a bit too crazy

[green wharf]

what pisses me off mot is how they get immune to my stormbolts now and then

my fault for not having any addon to say what the heck was that

[lavish quest]

If priest, don't bolt into their fade

[jovial torrent]

its so fucking bullshit, trash teams carried by a monk that can dash half the map immune to slows/charge root then just keeps tp'ing from flag room to roof

[green wharf]

it was not that, they wre doing some healing skill

[lavish quest]

Holy ward?

Angel form?

[fierce elm]

Only nerds blames a class for losing

[tidal rain]

monk always been S pick in bgs

[lavish quest]

What if that class is warrior

[fierce elm]

Then ultra nerd

[tidal rain]

it's just that with blitz people now realize what class is strong in BGs

but it's always been the case

and will never change

[lavish quest]

Can't F tier in peace

[jovial torrent]

just disable mobility skills when holding flag, make tanky peopel actually have to hold flag and get escourted across map

[tidal rain]

it would never end

if u unnerf tanks in bg

it would break the balance

[jovial torrent]

makes me either wana gear my rogue or a monk of my own

not saying tanks

[lavish quest]

Bring back mop fcs. Aka rogues with burst of speed

[jovial torrent]

i mean just not squishies

[lavish quest]

Lmao

[fierce elm]

lmao then gear something else up

Sometimes ya gotta vent and that is fine

[tidal rain]

Monks - DH - Druids - Evoker top classes for flag carrying, ain't nothing they can do abt that without gutting them in other gameplays

[fierce elm]

but r e l a x

[jovial torrent]

i am pretty chill, just saying MW monks and rogues to a extent are BS on flag maps

shouldnt be able to shadowstep or transcendence from flag room to roof

[tidal rain]

ah yes

just camp their flag if they have lots of mobility classes

[urban skiff]

Lock all FCs to 100% movement speed max, make them immune to mobility effects both friend and foe, and only stack the damage increase debuff when both flags are being carried.

[jovial torrent]

problem is our flag will eventually get oneshot from dampening, so kind of turns it into a coin flip

[fierce elm]

Remove all the specs

[rancid granite]

I miss double heroic leap in bg for sure

[jovial torrent]

i miss being able to heroic leap up terrain

[urban skiff]

huh? It's still there on fury

[rancid granite]

yeah I'm a big boy arms enjoyer now

[urban skiff]

WIth the leggo we had 4 or 6 leaps, i miss that

[rancid granite]

lmao I saw a clip of that from idk what expac dude grabbed flag and leaped like 6x across map

made monk look silly

[urban skiff]

was shadowlands

[lavish quest]

Just play sparking zero or Warhammer until warrior is fixed. Ez You'll be waiting a while.

[urban skiff]

or maaaybe legion

Tbh change barbarian pvp talent. Make it so heroic leap replaces rampage and deals the same damage

[jovial torrent]

probably legion there was a legendary that let u leap like 3x then + pvp talents

[urban skiff]

I don't care whether it's balanced, it would be fun as fuck

heroic leap as a spender yes please

[rancid granite]

https://youtu.be/gZAcIPfFs4E?si=9yJfDTF5kCkMdMo5

shadowlands lol

[rancid granite]

I imagine other classes were incredibly stupid too

same in sl

but man it musts been fun

[jovial torrent]

it was funny but rbg was pretty dead

and i think dh might have been the meta, cant remember now

[river walrus]

SL was full of broken shit and a bad expansion overall, but I loved pvp during season 1 and 2

[rancid granite]

the only thing I hear about sl was that it was universally hated by everyone lol

save for when warrior was op in pvp lol

[river walrus]

Warrior was very very op

Arms was op in season 1 and 2 I believe, then fury was op for rest of it

[fierce elm]

SL was hated even when Warrior was OP

That expansion shouldn't be spoken off because it had 0 redeeming qualities

[river walrus]

I loved SL pvp only because I love the one shot playstyle

I don't like this consistent damage bs

[rancid granite]

1 redeeming quality is it makes df and tww better by default

[river walrus]

Arms warrior when popping avatar and bladestorm should be a menace thing, people should run from it and use cds or die

[fierce elm]

The issue is that that relates to every spec then

lmao

[jovial torrent]

SL was hated because of choreghast, condemn was alot of fun

[river walrus]

Bladestorm is not hitting hard enough though

[fierce elm]

SL was hated because of everything

[jovial torrent]

we should honestly have the visual as a glyph or option#

[river walrus]

Blsdestorm during tbc and wrath was very strong

[violet fossil]

covenants

conduits

zones

[fierce elm]

Chores

[jovial torrent]

yeh, what was the meme again, we have a lever or parachute to pull

but never pull it

also bad story

[violet fossil]

pull the ripcord

[fierce elm]

What usually carries bad expansions are good writing and visuals

SL unfortunately had really bad writing and mid visuals

even bad visuals to certain things

[violet fossil]

korthia

[jovial torrent]

i played p1, p2 collected 1800 mog and logged out

[violet fossil]

some people actually liked it

¿

[fierce elm]

Yes

And they are allowed to do so as long as they understand that its a rare opinion and that they are wrong

[violet fossil]

lol

[river walrus]

I did like SL pvp season 1 and 2, everything else I hated

[jovial torrent]

the p3 zone seemed neat but was already too burned by choreghast and covenants

[violet fossil]

some mogs were cool tho

[fierce elm]

The PvP was actually fun however

Lots of bullshit

but none of this micro CC shit

[jovial torrent]

ye, pve'rs were just butthurt u could get pve ilvl from it

[river walrus]

Yes hahahah

Remember ret AoE one shot with divine toll?

[fickle forge]

Yeah I'll be real with you brother

Being hardlocked to 1 covenant a week, and then regrinding 2000 renown again to even unlock my conduits

And then doing the covenant story line to get the right soulbind

Yeah I wasn't digging that

[jovial torrent]

yeh its such a shame, they always do 1 major fuckup

legion legendaries were awful p1

[lavish quest]

Let me help spell it out real simple like for yall.
SL was hated because it was shit. Short, sweet, to the point.

[fickle forge]

Legion legendaries didn't matter for PvP though

[jovial torrent]

i was going hardish in legion pve, got stonewalled by whirlwind belt and heroic leap legendary, rerolled ww monk cus of it

[fickle forge]

SL was the opposite

You did your PvE, or you sucked fucking ass

Having an alt in SL was literally impossible as well

[tidal rain]

which is good

cuz this ain't league of legends

and you should have to work a little and invest yourself to play a character at high levels in a mmo

[fierce elm]

I mean I would like to play different characters

that already require quite a bit of time investment

[tidal rain]

otherwise just give us a lobby screen apex legends style and that's it

[fierce elm]

in early SL that was impossible

[jovial torrent]

i dunno what mmo u been playing, but alts have been a thing for most of the games lifetime

had like 6 pvp chars in mop

[fierce elm]

Which is what most PvPers want

[tidal rain]

never said they weren't ?

lmao

[fierce elm]

they want to have some sort of easy way to just step into PvP and PvP

[tidal rain]

i don't agree but heh 🤷‍♂️

to each their own

[fierce elm]

that is fair

[tidal rain]

i like feeling attached to a character

[fierce elm]

Take notes everybody, we just disagreed on a subject and said 'that is okay'

[fickle forge]

No shot is dude saying not being able to play other classes is good

[fierce elm]

Here comes one of those people who needed to take notes

[fickle forge]

Watch me brother

[jovial torrent]

speaking of i need to play some league to get some world pass tokens

[fickle forge]

I will instigate

[fierce elm]

Go be hungover

[tidal rain]

no, who said that ?

[fickle forge]

I got hangover and also a cold

It's pretty lit

[fierce elm]

lmao fucking rolled

karma for not running keys with me

[tidal rain]

are u lacking a brain ?

[fierce elm]

he is danish so yes?

[fickle forge]

I have still saved my key for you?

[fierce elm]

: (

[fickle forge]

Cause that's what SL was

No alts allowed

[tidal rain]

never said that

pls read again what i said

[fickle forge]

That's what I said brother and you responded to that

[tidal rain]

instead of transforming my argument

[jovial torrent]

been playing some spear gotta say it murders healers/mages atm, they just panic spam their dashes while i channel demolish

[fickle forge]

I see your argument right there lil' bro

[fierce elm]

He never said what you said

broski

[tidal rain]

i mean, it wasn't impossible 100% per say

[fierce elm]

STOP INSTIGATING OVER RANDOM STUFF THAT DOESNT MATTER

[tidal rain]

i meant

that working for an alt is a good thing

period

[fickle forge]

SL was more than just working for alts though

You were committing a full work week

[tidal rain]

well then maybe not that much

[fickle forge]

Into leveling, getting soulbinds, 130k honor, conq, legendaries, conduit farms, soul ash, rating caps and renown

Like there was just no end in sight

And then half the grind started over if you wanted to use a different covenant

[jovial torrent]

yehhh i skipped alts in sl

[copper fox]

Outside of mop I think this might be the most alt friendly xpac. If crafting gear wasn’t so expensive it would be better

Being able to transfer honor is a nice change

Wait was mop or wod the templates I might be mistaken. Whichever was templates is the xpac I’m talking about lol

[jovial torrent]

do u guys think i should upgrade my green pvp trinket to epic or replace blood token gear im edging towards the trinket

[copper fox]

Trinket

[jovial torrent]

ye thought so, the raw str is probs more from that than upgrading chest 3 ilvl

[copper fox]

Yes

[iron fractal]

Would people recommened Spear or Thunderous roar?

Arms warrior.

[tidal rain]

roar 100000%

[fickle forge]

Roar

[jovial torrent]

spear into mages in bg blitz has been really effective

[fickle forge]

Spear has had some value for me in 2s

But Roar is infinitely more sustained dmg

[tacit swallow]

Anyone else beating their head against the wall in solo shuffle.

[jovial torrent]

been queing blits myself, 5 min bg q vs 15-20 min shuffle

[tacit swallow]

The que times are killing me for sure.

[tidal rain]

is avoidance any good

or should i go full speed for enchants

[iron fractal]

I mostly do bg's and open world pvp.

[rancid granite]

roar better dps etc syncs well with bleeds but no harm in trying out both

[fickle forge]

It can pop pretty hard

You just sack so much dps for it

[rancid granite]

maybe in ss it's a bit different but bg's and wpvp isn't quite the same

[fickle forge]

I've only really been picking it into some 2s comps where you auto lose anyway

Just trynna fish for the one shot and maybe claim a win vs unwinable comps

[violet fossil]

think it was legion

[copper fox]

I didn’t play legion so it was definitely before

Or maybe I’m slow idk

Lmfao

[jovial torrent]

i feel like demolish should make you immune to micro cc bullshit like dh stuff

[violet fossil]

yeah was legion

durrr leeegion

[iron fractal]

wtf

My Sparks of war quest disappeared out of nowhere.. and now I have to re-do it from 0.

[violet fossil]

yeah it’s a bug where if you logout it drops it

[iron fractal]

So you can't relog without having it deleted. 10/10 gameplay.

[jovial torrent]

just join lfg spark farming

takes like 30 mins zerg

[iron fractal]

Server hopping?

[rancid granite]

do some wq's dig some dirt

or find group in pvp zone

[jovial torrent]

so demoralising losing every base u dont go too

[rancid granite]

just don't get demoralized then

problem fixed

[violet fossil]

this rogue was getting onto everyone’s ass in a eots about losing 6v4 💀

bro was like 133-122 in blitz

[willow plover]

I almost came back from a negative 10 win/loss in blitz.. Currently on a 6 game win streak

im in like 2.1k lobbies now while being at 1.7k cr

Do i keep queueing risking losing the winstreak or do i stop on top but risk not profiting even more ?

[opaque sleet]

exactly the same for me. do you lose CR when losing? I don't

[willow plover]

Most of the times i dont, if i lose like 2 in a row i do

but right now i dont care about my rating i just want to get to a positive winrate

im 1 game away from fixing my winrate, then ill be back at 50%

[jovial torrent]

games are so much closer than they need to be, always feels like the enemy rogues/hunters go for solo bases , where ours just zerg about letting them have a free base all game

[willow plover]

Same, all my games are decided last few seconds

Wel.. all my recent games atleast

some are just one sided from the start

[jovial torrent]

are rogues a bad kill target?

they seem very tanky

[brisk meadow]

do I wanna cast execute whenever possible?

as fury

[willow plover]

ideally only when u have enrage up

But it does build rage so sometimes its good to use it

[jovial torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[iron fractal]

Even with stun up it feels like demolish often miss the last big hit.

[verbal tangle]

Welcome to the Colossus experience

[iron fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-earth-shattering-marvin-marvin-the-martian-looney-tunes-gif-17701259

Making a melee ability channeling that both of you have to stand still for was a great idea.

[opaque sleet]

lol warrior has to cast

[iron fractal]

And there's soo many things that can cancel it too, and still put it on a cooldown.

[brisk meadow]

but isn't enrage basically always up

when just going face

I feel like it's practically always up when you're banging on enemies front doors

(and back doors)

[willow plover]

I think u can lose it a lot if u dont hit ur rampages

[brisk meadow]

ah

what about bloodthirst

(been max level for 2 days)

do I just prio raging blows & rampage in terms of damage

[willow plover]

If u have the talent u can use bloodthirst on a new target to get a new buff of enrage which is pretty nice in some sitautions

But other than that u kinda want to hit ur raging blows untill u get like 5 stacks of that crit chance buff and then hit ur bloodthirst when u have 5 stacks and u do insane crits

Its not always u have the chance to do that though so u just have to judge it by situation

[brisk meadow]

oh that's how they do the big bangs

[willow plover]

There is a priority list of spells for fury and if u stick to that ur pretty good

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UPB2UuZOLCqUsROHdwdtZmiJ2EWWklj4ea7FBE5Mwvo/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ywx59abzte7q

[brisk meadow]

makes sense

[willow plover]

Read this its really good

[brisk meadow]

I've been just spamming buttons

(got 1600 in SS in 6 matches still for set piece)

[willow plover]

Very nice bro

[brisk meadow]

playing 1700mmr with 626 eq is a bit rough though, free rating at least

something gives crit rate for bloodthirst?

reading this part

[dark sparrow]

How accurate is the arms part after the recent buffs/changes. Hard to find any good info on “current” arms

[willow plover]

I dont know the name of it but hit a raging blow on a dummy and u will see that u get stacks of buffs on u

[willow plover]

idk brother, but i do think magnuz keeps the guide updated somewhat

[brisk meadow]

I'm prob not talented into it then

[willow plover]

Bloodcraze is the talent

[jovial torrent]

i really cant decide between arms and fury

arms seems good, but fury blasts dps

[stone garnet]

I will say as a lifetime arms enjoyer. Colossus Arms has been a blast in BGB

[jovial torrent]

yeh thats what ive been playing, it feels good till theres a bunch of hunters or stuff zipping about

just went against a fury warrior and they dumpstered my dps

[willow plover]

The thing i tought was the main difference was that u get a bit more survivability from arms but a bit more dps in fury, is that correct?

[jovial torrent]

arms survivability is worse imo

only good when u have parry up vs melee

only thing is i have haste vers accesories now

so my fury probs wont be as good

might go back to slayer arms for a bit

[verbal tangle]

Fury >>>>>>>> Arms

[lavish quest]

Arms and fury gonna be fighting over who's the bottom anyways

[copper fox]

So true

[amber heron]

@willow plover arms actually doesnt do anything better

its just that the best players happen to be arms players and love to suck the specs dick

constantly

actually i mispoke, arms has better 2 target cleave possibly

but then again the fury having AOE through whirlwind isnt bad either

arms is an outdated spec imo

they need to give arms a niche, its currently just a meatshield

[rancid granite]

better to suck one dick than dual weilded dicks so arms comes out on top again nice try chase

[copper fox]

Yea. Screw those top players for loving the spec they’ve always been playing

[jovial torrent]

i feel like demolish shouldnt go on cd if it is interrupted

[copper fox]

Arms can swap more than fury, offensively that’s its biggest strength compared

[wheat jay]

neither should fist of fury?

makes 0 sense to not have things go on cd

[copper fox]

The cd is low enough to begin with

[jovial torrent]

i dunno, its so easy to stop demolish

waddle a bit, root bind knock micro stuns

pop defensive last second

[copper fox]

If your set up got stopped you got outplayed

Try again

[jovial torrent]

its probs better in shuffle than blitz

[lavish quest]

If I kick cds like ulti P they should still go on CD

[jovial torrent]

yes

using /slap on druids should also break their tranquility

[tacit swallow]

Being able to meld and feign death it is brutal.

50% cd reduction or something would be okayish.

Playing demolish in solo to have a hope it changing outcomes.

[tidal rain]

why doesn't my elemental focus augment ever procs ?

does it even work with enduring bloodstone ?

[jovial torrent]

nah it has to be any other gem

ive got x2 so it procs for about 260k

its only like 1.5-2% of my dmg the proc rate isnt amazing

[tidal rain]

like

blizzard

why

i just spent 6k gold for nothing

and btw is avoidance useful in pvp

compared to speed

[copper fox]

Nah speed >
Also why would you say you wasted 6k? Are you not getting any other gems?

[tidal rain]

can't wait

not gonna try my rated score with a useless augment in my gear

[rancid granite]

huh

I got lens and enduring bloodstone and my shit procs

[jovial torrent]

mine didnt

@rancid granite

it didnt start proccing till i got a gem slot in my other ring

[rancid granite]

so you not have any other sockets

yeah so it's not a waste

[jovial torrent]

i didnt for a day

[rancid granite]

just keep gearing :b

[jovial torrent]

and it didnt proc that whole day

yeh not the end of the work, doesnt take too long to farm 5k more honor and buy some gems

[urban skiff]

Do your delves or something else for 3 slots in vault

you can put those sockets on helm/bracer/belt and skip some honor farm

[jovial torrent]

orli thought they were pve only

can u just do 8x rank 1

[urban skiff]

rate my fighter

[prime solar]

I really need to stop playing blitz.

I love BG's but jesus

[rancid granite]

translation : I hate losing pvp

[jovial torrent]

its crazy how much mmr flips still

pingponging between 1800-2100

[rancid granite]

what's her name?

[prime solar]

You can only lose 16 gain 8 for so long mentally.

[rancid granite]

numbers are for mages

play to win don't play for numbers

[prime solar]

Yeah. Trying. It's not working.

[rancid granite]

stop losing and that -16 won't matter

focus on gains and improving instead of numbers then

[prime solar]

3/5 games I lose someones in chat telling me they are inting

I can't replace players. Some of them even leave the BG

[rancid granite]

it happens

but then it happens to enemy team too

[jovial torrent]

i wish arms and fury rating was linked, took so long to grind one up

[rancid granite]

being able to swap hero talents rocks tho

[tidal rain]

how come the top 1 arms is full mastery

[verbal tangle]

Because Mastery = damage

[tidal rain]

ye but isn't haste the way to go ? 90% of the other arms in the ladder are mastery

[jovial torrent]

he probs played fury but didnt pay to switch his accesories

kind of tempted to go mastery tho, alot of dmg in bg blitz is bleed

[copper fox]

Who are you referring to

[tidal rain]

smexxin

[cloud meadow]

is there a WA for spell reflect pvp?

for things like warlock bolts and sheeps

[stone garnet]

I'm doing full mastery in bgblitz, it feels nice. But I had to make sure to bring my haste to 10% or else it felt like absolute ass.

[jovial torrent]

i see, my dmg is good but im kind of losing my mind on how to effect the game more

had 3 wars on my team felt like enemy was just spamming clones ect able to cc chain the other base

[hearty vault]

warrior class is a disaster in PvP, at least in BGs/Blitz. Be prepare to suffer for being op only by dmg the first weeks, while we didnt get any new kits against CC or defensives to TWW

[jovial torrent]

@stone garnet what rating u managed to push with mastery spec?

i do wonder if pushing mastery more, and just getting max value out of bladestorm and thunderous roar is the way to go

[copper fox]

Smexxin is geared for fury and is the top fury warrior atm

He’s just playing arms on the side

But he’s geared as a fury main atm

Limited gear right now otherwise he would have a set for arms

[frosty flower]

Isn’t Magnusz gearing almost the same stats wise though?

Or is it the same reason

[copper fox]

No if you watch his stream or ask in his disc he will tell you which of his warriors are geared more towards fury / arms. Regardless of what they’re specd rn. His gnome for example is almost 20% haste whereas his dwarf is 7% haste

But mag also tests a lot. Which he constantly reminds people of before they copy gear

[frosty flower]

Ah I haven’t checked his stream yet. I was just looking at the one he has at the top of the 2s ladder

[copper fox]

His main arms warrior is 20% haste with little mastery

[frosty flower]

Same with smexxin at the top of the shuffle ladder

[copper fox]

That’s why it’s better to use murlock than individuals

Getting the overall % vs top players who are experimenting

[frosty flower]

I mean my frost dk shows up on murlok and I really have no idea what I’m doing

Oh I see

[copper fox]

You sure?

lol

If you show up there

You probably know what you’re doing

[frosty flower]

I just copy what the other top frost dks do

[hot solstice]

everyone got scamed by mag 1st week with conquest cloak

should have bought 636 one

[copper fox]

Yea I mean he specifically says not to gear copy him lol

People are just impulsive

[frosty flower]

There’s no disclaimer in the armory though

[hot solstice]

nah

everyone got scamed by blizzard with weapon craft anyway

[copper fox]

True we should tell blizzard to add that

(No meme)

[frosty flower]

They should just uncap conq

[copper fox]

Eh I disagree with that. We should have a gearing phase

[jovial torrent]

what id like is them to double conquest gains

i wana get a few different classes 1800 mogs and it takes forever to grind conq

[stone garnet]

I'm 1897? With 65% win rate in Blitz.

[fierce kite]

How do you actually start doing RBGs man. Never any groups up that will take me

[violet fossil]

in blitz

[fierce kite]

that goes horribly wrong for me! Maybe I just need to break through an MMR threshold to find better players

[violet fossil]

what happen?

[fierce kite]

Dont suppose it shows blitz rating when joining pre made RBG groups?

Just people who leave or AFK after their first death or dont play objective at all

[violet fossil]

You gotta keep playing

[fierce kite]

Ill try that, see if I can break through the pain!

[violet fossil]

It sucks bor

To

Bro

Don’t get me wrong

Just keep playing tho

Play the objective

[fierce kite]

yeah ill keep at it, want the mount and mogs after all. Hopefully with some more MMR ill loose to being outplayed and not having potatoes on my team

[rancid granite]

I promise you your team thinks you're a potato too lol

if you're good just play and you'll climb

[fierce kite]

😂 well they are AFK potatoes, thats worse!

but yes ill keep going

[tacit swallow]

Do you guys think shuffle is even harder because of how inefficient it is compared to RBG?

[copper fox]

What do you mean inefficient?

[cinder thorn]

I just got melted by a monk

Also getting melted by druids and mages (as usual)

War 1v1 is disappointing

[echo aspen]

to be fair when has war ever been good 1v1 lol

[cinder thorn]

I just saw a mage put down two orbs as well didn't know that was possible

[merry valley]

Arms was already in the dumpster

Fury paying for being good on week 1

"So i heard you were a strong DPS on the RTWF"

[violet fossil]

way back when

[echo aspen]

ok grandpa lets get you to bed

[violet fossil]

U asked when

: s

[pale dew]

Hey, any arms guide you guys recommend please?

I'm copying talents from murlok.io but without an explanation, I don't see much point. I'm light years away from those guys' abilities lol.

[prime solar]

I seek to maintain your positivity

[frosty flower]

What do you guys do when you’re that guy in a shuffle? I’m trying not to stack defensives and kite melee but if you’re constantly being targeted what do you do?

[ruby temple]

keep pulling them away from there healer

[rancid granite]

nothing to seek it's just a simple choice!

it's kinda just a basic principle it's not really positive or negative

well that's part of getting gud definitely lol

can't do well and increase your chance of winning if you're too busy raging

[night scarab]

mastery the way to go for colossus arms yeah?

yeah i figured dw

[patent forum]

I’m a crit shill

Crit demo when they’re at 40%

They just vanish

[rancid granite]

we can say dick but not ass - hole? OK that makes sense

[patent forum]

Works 5% of the time 100% of the time

[rancid granite]

Anyway I was gonna say the DBAA rule alone helps a ton (don't be an ass-hole)

[night scarab]

might be a ladder research angle

[frosty flower]

You gotta pronounce like the baby from meet the fockers

[oblique ferry]

https://i.gyazo.com/6e92aa02b9605e1950aa540e2ee50204.png

Ya'll, can someone explain this for me.

The MMR was within 25 points

So it wasn't some stomp.

[rancid granite]

lol

[frosty flower]

Is this a win or loss

[oblique ferry]

Soory, should have captured the column titles too

It's a win, for no rating.

Blitz

[frosty flower]

What’s your rating vs mmr?

[oblique ferry]

1518

The MMR was like... 1450? ish?

[frosty flower]

Did you lose a couple before this or is it a placement game?

[oblique ferry]

https://i.gyazo.com/21bd2164998b1c398c13789b6d7d7eda.png

Yeah, my nights been... rough.

[frosty flower]

Yeah you need a win streak

[oblique ferry]

But it was tossing me in 1800/1900 brackets for the first few, for whatever freaking reason.

When my rating was only 1600

[frosty flower]

Just take a break if your getting tilted

[oblique ferry]

Oh I totally am tilted

That "win" sealed the deal

[frosty flower]

Yeah log on an alt or do something else

[oblique ferry]

Warrior feels bad in PvP

[frosty flower]

What other classes do you play

[oblique ferry]

Heh, only Warrior currently. Been trying Devoker, but that poor guys gear is dooky.

[frosty flower]

Get him some gear, playing while tilted is a recipe for disaster. Even if everything goes mostly right you’ll still be upset. At least that’s how I am

[oblique ferry]

I'm just trying to figure out the class, but its so damn hard to know if you are doing things right or wrong with Warrior right now.

[frosty flower]

Yeah

It definitely doesn’t play the way it used to

[oblique ferry]

I'm doing Colossus, as I've been told its more "old school" and less juggling buffs than Slayer. Plus Blizzard is probably going to slap Slayer more, since god forbid we do any good level of damage.

[frosty flower]

I kinda see it more like frost dk but I haven’t quite figured out the set up because dk has grip and everybody gets out of stuns or drs them

[oblique ferry]

The amount of micro roots, snares and CC right now is out of this world.

But sadly trying to get a good Demolish off feels... near impossible.

90% of the time, it feels like it just tickles someone.

The other 10% it smacks ass. It's probably crit vs a regualr hit, but /shrug

[night scarab]

colossus is probably looking at some buffs because it doesnt perform well in pve

[patent forum]

Just play slayer

[frosty flower]

Coming from cata I really miss imp hamstring

[night scarab]

its only got a spot in m+

[patent forum]

It’s honestly better the majority of the time

And idk what you mean by juggling buffs. Slayer doesn’t add anything other than passive dmg

[oblique ferry]

Aye, I guess it does in PvE, but probably not as much in PvP.

I'm trying to make Colossus work.

[patent forum]

Colossus is good against melee cleaves

Or if your teammate can set something up

Like a rogue

[oblique ferry]

Mhmm, that's why I run it, since I'm doing Blitz.

[patent forum]

Slayer still pulls ahead majority of the time

[oblique ferry]

Which is sad.

[patent forum]

Slayer strike on average is like 8% of your damage

[oblique ferry]

There needs to be an easier way to get stacks for Demolish.

Only Exe and MS feels real bad.

[patent forum]

Just bladestorm

Builds stacks fast af

[frosty flower]

Do you generally open in a match with bladestorm then?

[oblique ferry]

That feels bad too, since I gotta save the damn thing for CC, feels like

[patent forum]

Bladestorm is the majority of war dmg now

This ain’t shadowlands

[oblique ferry]

This hurts my soul.

Is Haste the go to for us then? I can't find many people who do Colossus for Blitz.

Crit feels like the right one to choose, with all the talents that need it.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[patent forum]

Arms feels playable at 20% haste min

[oblique ferry]

I'm sitting at 17%

and 13% crit

[frosty flower]

Dploy is doing haste and he trucks in blitz

[oblique ferry]

Hrm.

[oblique ferry]

He is slayer though

[frosty flower]

But he’s slayer atm idk if he plays colossus

[oblique ferry]

At least on murlok

[patent forum]

Haste is the most important stat as arms because all your dmg happens during csmash windows

[oblique ferry]

Right.

[patent forum]

You get a haste buff during it when talented too

So you wanna drop as many global as poss within that time frame

So 20% baseline gets you to 35%ish during csmash

[oblique ferry]

Yeah

Maybe Haste/Crit

idk

speculating.

[patent forum]

If your only goal is to push blitz, try gearing that devoker

I leveled a devoker with no idea what I was doing and went like 30-7 in blitz

[oblique ferry]

[frosty flower]

Lol

[hearty vault]

Do more dmg wont safe you against all micro CCs and low sustain

good luck :S

[oblique ferry]

I want to, but with how annoyed I am right now, it won't go well lol

[patent forum]

Devoker dam is insane with the most braindead rotation. Other than an occasional sleep walk you just fly around and blast while laughing at every warrior chasing you

[frosty flower]

By the time you’re geared you shouldn’t still be annoyed

[patent forum]

It’s sad

[oblique ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-custodes-dead-inside-dying-inside-gif-18454430

I have had that scenario far, far too often.

[frosty flower]

Loss streaks and win streaks are just what they are, try not to focus on them

[patent forum]

Ranged has and always will be king in a bg though

Warrior might be the worst class to push blitz solo

[oblique ferry]

The annoying part is, I was doing fab before this point

[frosty flower]

And you will again

Just don’t tilt

[oblique ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-too-late-for-me-star-wars-im-sorry-gif-17036849

[frosty flower]

Would you quit arena if you had a few game loss streak?

[oblique ferry]

Did that too xD

[patent forum]

Nah you keep q-ing and lose 300 more cr

[frosty flower]

Maybe level a 2nd warrior and only play the lower rating one

[oblique ferry]

I will agree that Devoker is so much better than Warrior

I was nearly 2400 in DF with mine.

[patent forum]

Devoker is strong, but it’s not as fun to play as war imo

[oblique ferry]

Totally

Demolish is just

[hearty vault]

yes, pretty sad. And TWW just started... . I think Blitz shows what is the pvp outside 3v3 and how warrior has developed compared to other classes (disaster). And Blitz will be the future of a majority pvp players

[oblique ferry]

Chef Kiss

(Arms) warrior is just in such a sad, sad place right now.

Both in PvP and PvE.

[patent forum]

I don’t think arms is that bad in arena tbh

I actually think it’s pretty good

[oblique ferry]

It boggles my mind that we get AoE nerfs in PvE while shit like Arcane Mage and others can dumpster pulls.

[hearty vault]

it's right, while u dont play against counters

[oblique ferry]

Truth

[vapid tartan]

colossus sucks for blitz

best case scenario u just hold stacks for go

and might as well play slayer anyway

[oblique ferry]

How annoying.

How could they even "fix" it so that it is competitive?

[vapid tartan]

increase the passive stack damage + range

[sharp meteor]

Just kind of comes with playing.

Also minimizing clutter.

You can hide a lot of pet nameplates, useless totems

[hybrid socket]

Do arms wars actually use rend?

or just thunderclap to apply

[prime solar]

Clap for AOE - not worth casting rend ever

[grand prism]

took me 444 fucking rounds vs mages and devokers but i did it boys

[jovial torrent]

nicu now just 200 rating to go

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm bruh i'm running out of space here.

[fierce elm]

wtf bumpers

You always struck me as a metal type of guy smh

[grand prism]

only 400 more mages to chase

[urban skiff]

it's my own floor m8. I'd love metal, being a former machinist and all, but I also don't want to buy new floors. So bigger footprint to spread pressure

[urban skiff]

just play SMF THANE, make them proc alter time, dispel that and pop ascendance

[dense herald]

aahow

[jovial torrent]

movin on up

[grand prism]

Imagine being fury and not using big ass swords get this dork outta here

Dispel, ascendance? What sorta wizard herbs you been tokin

[green wharf]

imagine playing fury and using swords instead of axes

[dense herald]

im on like 5 game lose streak on blitz

im gonna lose my mind

[slender wedge]

its harsh

i was 1 win off 1950 for illusion

had like 8 loss in a row

so mmr went to shit

slooooowly climbing

xD

[green wharf]

and they still didn't fix vicious saddle progression bug

[slender wedge]

u think theyll dish out saddles when fixed?

[green wharf]

they will give a big fuck you to us

if they fix

going for the 30 days bug soon

[tidal rain]

how do u win as arms vs affli and resto druid ?

[dense herald]

why cant we get crests from bg wins

[dense herald]

bruv

im no expert

but

id say go on affli and when the rdruid hots him just do switches on the druid when the druid has little or no hots

can maybe catch the druid lackin with a big demolishb

[tidal rain]

if they play well i feel like it's an unwinnable matchup

[tidal rain]

nah u just get full cc

[dense herald]

ccd from whojm

[tidal rain]

druid

stun cyclone while u get eaten by dots

and can't reach shit

[fickle forge]

What for 2s?

[tidal rain]

ye

[fierce elm]

fun matchup

[fickle forge]

Pick Spear and one shot Rdruid

[tidal rain]

i mean i just had it and i felt so useless

like they toyed with me

ah right

spear

good idea

[fickle forge]

You aren't gonna win on dam

[tidal rain]

do i need to change anything else if i take spear

[fickle forge]

And you lose the damp

[tidal rain]

what do i replace it with

[fickle forge]

Roar

You sac all your dam to fish for one shot basically

[tidal rain]

i see

on the drood

[dense herald]

see warrior usually does good against warlock

[tidal rain]

should i always go for rdruids ?

[dense herald]

but warrior sucks rn

[tidal rain]

i mean warlock became as mobile as mages it feelslike

[dense herald]

no,u dont wnana waste all ur charges trying to catch a druid

[fickle forge]

In 2s it's good ye

Rn BM, lock, mage etc. with Rdruid is just not winable

So just try and Demo one shot

Grabbed a few wins that way with a 6M Demo+MS hit

[dense herald]

Shouldnt u rotate between lock and druid depending on hots

[tidal rain]

there is a part of me that just wants to reroll ww

i feel like

[fickle forge]

If you play for damp yeah

[tidal rain]

i'm playing wit hpal

[fickle forge]

But arms doesn't win vs meta rn

[tidal rain]

so might not be a good idea

[tidal rain]

at lower ratings it can

i'm busting every fury war i meet in -2000

and frosties

[fickle forge]

I mean ye, I wouldn't ever pick Spear unless you literally have 0 win conditions and need to make one

And BM, lock and mage with Rdruid is a case like that

[tidal rain]

ye it's just rdrood

so annoying

i'm coming over from being a dk main in df

and it's the exact same shit with warr vs rdrood

[vestal heart]

is warmonger stuff better than the conquest gear?

[fierce elm]

think about it logically

ilvl is arguably the best indicator for gear

and conquest gear has higher ilvl

[vestal heart]

right so why do all these guides recommend warmonger stuff?

just curious

[fierce elm]

because we can grab the off-pieces for bloody tokens

because bloody token gear doesn't have the best stats generally, but a few pieces that line up perfectly

so you grab those and save conquest on them

so you can grab other pieces with conquest

until we have full conq gear at least

[vestal heart]

got it thanks

[lavish quest]

Because we're gamers who don't need max ilvl to win, that's why

[placid cloak]

guys is it easy to reach 1800 as fury on solo shuffle?

or better to grind 3v3 and findgroups

whats easier

reached 1600 on solo shuffle but have hard time climbing now

[jovial torrent]

@vestal heart if u get the 2500 conquest free weps u can be full epic this week,craft neck/rings with ur free 9 heraldry marks, i have warmonger bracers cape chest belt boots

[fierce elm]

Blitz is inflated as fuck so thats the easiest way

[polar current]

Kinda tilted that I crafted wep but I guess in the long run all gear will be equal

[jovial torrent]

id reccomend using 2's or somthing with a friend to farm conquest before pushing solo blitz, i feel like i made my climb 10x harder by crushing my mmr wearing full greens

[fierce elm]

I mean he reached 1600 in solo shuffle

he should have gear

[jovial torrent]

nice, wana push 1950 and maybe even 2100 but think i need a day off of blitz

[verbal tangle]

Wep is bis for us though

[jovial torrent]

the free weps pretty good, major vers minor mastery stas

[placid cloak]

im new to pvp but wearing all green is so bad when it scales to 626 anyways?

[jovial torrent]

the epic bits scale to 639 , 13 ilvl is a hell of alot of dmg

[placid cloak]

my gear

so this should be enough for blitz climb to 1800?

from 1600

[fierce elm]

yes

[jovial torrent]

do the sparks of war quest and farm ur bloody tokens cap

[fierce elm]

without issue

[jovial torrent]

wont take long but its just a nice little bump

[fierce elm]

Although swap your trinket

[placid cloak]

so easiest mode is bg blitz or solo shuffle, Im confused 😄

to reach 1800

[jovial torrent]

blitz in theory should be easier

[placid cloak]

I just want elite set

[fierce elm]

Blitz is the easiest by far

[placid cloak]

ok queueing that then

and it awards the set right?

[jovial torrent]

yeh u can get same rewards from blitz as solo

[fierce elm]

yes

[jovial torrent]

get battlegroundenemies addon

[placid cloak]

ok looking that up now

will be a long climb boys

started pvp like 2 weeks ago

any upgrades for conqueest recommended next?

[jovial torrent]

maybe buy heraldry upgrade neck

[placid cloak]

any build recommendations for this mode?

[fierce elm]

same as everywhere else