yeh, im kind of just ignoring bg blitz score and playing, just using it for chill conquest cap
#pvp
willow plover
This time the guy who was defending mines on gilineas just "forgot" to cap the flag while entire team fights for ww
So he just stood there entire match without a capped flag
jovial torrent
had similar stuff happen on my mages lower rates games, ppl just sitting at uncappable eots nodes
prime solar
I love how often I have friendlies W key toward me with a rogue on them as I'm capping to make it easier for the rogue to shadowstep me and stop the cap
willow plover
yeh, im kind of just ignoring bg blitz score and playing, just using it for chil...
I should prolly stop caring about it as well as its obviously not going anywhere
copper fox
😂😂
urban skiff
I don't think they swap for spriest. Warlock still provides gate for flag maps
jovial torrent
very true, also spammable fear is neat
urban skiff
holy fuck i just realized I've been playing without 4set
urban skiff
very true, also spammable fear is neat
also the big dumb slow and healthstones will take a lot of pressure off the healers in team fights and even solo
jovial torrent
500 conquest left to go, then im buying/enchanting everything, can get another 2 of the blood coin items too i think, probs chest + boots
willow plover
Ahh feels good to have the guy that ruined the previous match in the enemy team this game
I capped out my guy earlier
urban skiff
I capped out my guy earlier
ayooo did you do skirmish earlier today?
get your ass handed by a hunter/enh comp?
gritty moth
Did the Arms warrior buff help arms in pvp any?
zinc tartan
is cq 2h better than epic algari 2h?
rancid granite
Did the Arms warrior buff help arms in pvp any?
arms does more dmg according to the buff recieved, and less dmg taken as stated in the other buffs
willow plover
if an blizzard employee played 1 single bgb game vs a monk they would realise that something is not right
willow plover
just venting between queues
urban nacelle
So this duo is really strong on maps like deepwind because the lock can port people in mid to the outside of the walls. MW also runs song of chi to aoe cc and cap flag. Usually trinkets help for the first time they do this but they guarantee the flag on 2nd go.
and ofc MW op on wsg type maps too
but u wont see this much in lower ranks unless someone is playing alts
chilly magnet
Feral druid took me from 100 to almost 10 percent in a stunlock in def stance lol
Gg
rancid granite
do it back to him they squishy
jovial torrent
excuse me wtf is this team making
copper fox
You want them to make matchmaking separate classes? lol qs would skyrocket
chilly magnet
do it back to him they squishy
They just run into bear form and heal.
rancid granite
reroll druid idk
agile cedar
They are overtuned but definitely a decent focus target
Focus, swap, focus again
The thing about bear form is they have negative pressure when you force the swap
urban nacelle
You want them to make matchmaking separate classes? lol qs would skyrocket
they dont need to they just need to move the wars around in that lobby
agile cedar
Well to do that they would need to rip the cross faction bandaid off
Which I fully support
urban nacelle
It is in rated. The reason they havent done this is because the game is programmed to fill one team at a time rather than filling a pool of 20 then forming the teams. IDK if they can go through the spaghetti code and fix it.
copper fox
Nah it would increase q times and most babies cry about that already
Not worth the fix
It’s fine
rancid granite
i love the rng teams it brings a lot of flavor and stuff
copper fox
Exactly
fickle forge
Buff warrior burst maaaaaan
hearty vault
Warrior need new kits or defensives. OP by "big dmg" is always something temporal that make warrior useless after nerfs or some situations. We are playing same DF Class, we only got new dmg passives in TWW.
jovial torrent
imo charge has needed a rework for years, getting stopped mid charge by all these micro cc's and displacements is the worst
fierce elm
I love the changing of tunes this channel does anytime Arms/Fury is not sitting solidly as the best melee
Definitely agree they need to look at charge mechanics however
Pretty sure warrior charge is the only charge ability that gets disrupted mid air
frosty flower
You can stop mw and hunter mid air
fierce elm
Roll is fair
jovial torrent
it should honestly make you either immune to roots or you gain some sort of bonus if you are stopped
fierce elm
Im thinking straight up point and click charge abilities
such as Wild charge
Charge
Intervene
W.e dragon does
DH
jovial torrent
got into a solo shuffle with 2 hunters and a boomy, was just stupid all the binding shots, traps, knocks, boomy cyclone
fierce elm
I can be wrong however, but pretty sure those those that aren't warrior with point and click charges are unaffected
and affects them at the end of the charge
or in some cases just straight immunes them and goes through anyways
fierce elm
Movement abilities such as roll or general abilities tend to have the same mechanics tied to them
jovial torrent
i skipped dragonflight i miss when cc's were longer but every class didnt have like 4 of them
fierce elm
DF was pretty much the same
jovial torrent
id much prefer 1-2 good cc's rather than 2 stuns, a root a knockback , totems yoinking you 20 ft back
fierce elm
I doubt we are going back to CC being tied to long CC chains and away from this micro CC
because right now we have both and its clear from the state of ladder that the specs that can bring both are favored in some way
jovial torrent
yeh i doubt it too, id rather shockwave just be deleted
fierce elm
unless they bring absurd damage
jovial torrent
maybe its just me and my lack of gear, but i feel like baseline classes flop too fast outside of defensives, so ppl just pop their offensive defensive and shortly after whatever class isnt just passively mobile or tanky flops
fierce elm
Personally have stepped away from PvP this season, just going to hope for changes, if none come true just play a few games for 1800 then dip
I don't mind playing a mid spec or anything, but everything just hurts without any sort of indication anymore
because 90% of damage is tied to passives and random non-interactable things
jovial torrent
yeh its rng proc dmg moreso than , yep he has x cd up
fierce elm
From what I understand not even those who are playing these good ass specs are even enjoying it
but rather just playing because PvP is something they have always played
Thankfully BGB blitz hides a lot of this bullshit compared to arena
jovial torrent
i dunno what blizz is guna do about gamemodes they are in such a tough spot, but maybe they have to bite the bullet and let solo q give full rewards like glad mount ect
fierce elm
Who knows, BGB seems to be popping off in popularity
jovial torrent
cus in league only a very very small minority play 5 man group pvp, but alot of ppl have played 3v3 team for so long #
so in league they can give all rewards to solo q and everyones cool with it
but some ppl seem to really hate the idea of glad mount being earnable in shuffle
limber relic
Who knows, BGB seems to be popping off in popularity
did u know shuffle is more popular than blitz?
just ss has a cap while blitz doesnt
fierce elm
Fair
jovial torrent
i think blitz is played more just because its less solo responsibility
fierce elm
Seems to be the direction they are moving
I don't mind it tbh
Gonna miss staying up until 5am just inting games in 3s though
jovial torrent
i started the season with just blitz cus i cba to set up my ui and aura tracking, where arena i felt like i needed it
hearty vault
Warrior is the class who suffer more all kinds of CCs and defensives cause we only can do melee physical skill without waste a big CD. slows? Dodges? parrys? Bops? rootings? silences for shouts? etc. While all classes has alternatives skill when they cant use melee skills. Warrior fantasy role? stupid thing that other classes dont suffer.
fierce elm
Don't act like Warrior is the class who suffers the most rn lmao
Especially when warriors were fine in most DF seasons
this comes down to tuning as it always does
Off-set the playstyle warrior has, which is what they have done in season where Warriors have statistically performed well
hearty vault
ofc! 3v3. A good healer in your back while u are a npc who only do dmg and stuns.
fierce elm
and has been forever
I mean yeah, thats the warrior life. You are a semi-support with a ton of damage usually
jovial torrent
god i wish they ported shuffle to cata classic, lfg is miserable
hearty vault
yeah, while other classes life is get new skills, movility, etc
fierce elm
Your role generally is to be a target nobody wants to go because you have so much self-tankiness while providing huge pressure
hearty vault
role/fantasy/life, the same thing that other classes ignore and getting new kits.
fierce elm
Unfortunately this is one of those seasons where Warrior just generally wont perform well and that is what it is
I mean, I am playing a spec that got a total rework in DF S2
and we arent good by any measurement
Despite not caring much about other specs mobility
jovial torrent
i wonder if blizz balance care about awc participation
fierce elm
They tend to not bring out balance patches in the middle of AWC
same way they do during Mythic world first
They tend to leave specs alone
especially now with 11.0.5 being so close that brings a ton of changes to a lot of specs and classes
jovial torrent
oh i dont mean in the middle, i just mean like if they see literally 0 warriors or 0 boomies ect will they throw them buffs
fierce elm
They tend to look at ladder overall when they finally do look at it
jovial torrent
or do they only care about their arena ladder metrics
fierce elm
AWC is a pretty good measurement of how ladder looks however
at least in 3s, not in solo shuffle etc
jovial torrent
whats been doing well so far, i saw a bunch of the matches but i missed the finals
jovial torrent
from what i saw it was alot of rogues priests lock
and some hunters
yeh looking at last cup it was rogue lock with x healer winning
hearty vault
maybe I am wrong, but I think people are playing more Blitz than 3v3/shuffl. 3v3 looks increasingly PVE, boring.
jovial torrent
shuffle mmr was capped lower than blitz so everyones going there for easy rating, its also alot more casual since its not just being really good at the class, its playing the mode
hearty vault
ofc, thanks that 3v3 looks PVE, warrior can do something, when we have op dmg
hearty vault
shuffle mmr was capped lower than blitz so everyones going there for easy rating...
sure, but I think that if both modes have same mmr cap, people would play blitz (bgs)
jovial torrent
yeh i think blitz is a bit more casual friendly
easier to blame someone else when theres 9 others on your team
rancid granite
objective based pvp is refreshing
hearty vault
and funny, at least for me.
violet fossil
except placement*
violet fossil
objective based pvp is refreshing
yeah
rancid granite
more banter and objectives quicker q times all good stuff
jovial torrent
bg's are cosy, i would really like to see a blanket dampening tho, tired of healers just sitting there afk on a node being unkillable
rancid granite
I think it'd ruin the whole thing lol
violet fossil
How would you implement that?
jovial torrent
not a big one but atleast somthing so they oom in a resonable ammount of time
rancid granite
or 3 healer per match to make up for it
violet fossil
Like max is 20%?
jovial torrent
yeh, just like blank 10-20% - healing
rancid granite
it's already only 2 healer only
violet fossil
they just need to work on mana
hearty vault
bg's are cosy, i would really like to see a blanket dampening tho, tired of heal...
+1, but it's 3v3 fault. Cause blizzard try to balance 3v3 for healers and dps makes healers gods. Something stupid
rancid granite
ping the healer to target and watch them melt when your tram focuses them :D
jovial torrent
im guna level a healer eventually for quick q, but im torn between monk and priest
violet fossil
well 3v3 was always the staple
violet fossil
im guna level a healer eventually for quick q, but im torn between monk and prie...
Priest is fun
jovial torrent
i dont like that every healer has a invulnerability
like priests shooting off into the sky, druid tranquility
violet fossil
I don’t like disc much but it’s a cool spec
hearty vault
yes, 3v3. And WoW PvP is dead for years
jovial torrent
getting 40-58 conquest a bg has been brutal, finally about to hit conquest gap so guna be a big juicy boy tomorrow
violet fossil
yes, 3v3. And WoW PvP is dead for years
that’s not cause of 3v3 tho
hearty vault
Of course, other factors influence (another pvp games), but 3v3 doesn't help.
violet fossil
getting 40-58 conquest a bg has been brutal, finally about to hit conquest gap s...
yeah 58 conquest a blitz feels bad haha
jovial torrent
i still have memories of wod bashing out 2v2 and getting from 0-18k conquest in a single day for full gear
hearty vault
Anyway, I insist that the warrior needs a rework for kits or defensives. And I don't accept the "roleplaying/fantasy/life" class excuse, because other classes are getting new things that ignore these terms. People was happy with their warriors cause "we are doing a lot of dmg", but it's the only new thing that we got on TWW. what do u think?
deep epoch
Anyway, I insist that the warrior needs a rework for kits or defensives. And I d...
Warriors should be able to fly too.
Soon when we become Dragons.
hearty vault
well dragons become warriors now
hearty vault
I dont know if u are joking, but I think u are right
deep epoch
I’d be happy with charge x3 … gg mages
Or something like that so at least you can’t be kited an entire match.
hearty vault
3 charges wont help us without a healer in our back (Blitz/bgs moments) against a mage
well, mage, pala, dh and another classes that destroy us easy 1v1
jovial torrent
i wouldnt mind ignore pain being deleted in favour of cata style second wind, when stunned or rooted gain x hp back
violet fossil
i wouldnt mind ignore pain being deleted in favour of cata style second wind, wh...
and the other 1 too
jovial torrent
the one where your crit or u mean just mop second wind haha
hearty vault
Blizzard prefer that u look at the roof while u are in roots as warrior without big CDs UP.
violet fossil
jovial torrent
cata mop were just so good, actually felt like you could outplay and survive rather than race people down
violet fossil
yeah that’s how I felt in mop
violet fossil
cata mop were just so good, actually felt like you could outplay and survive rat...
like u almost had an answer for everything
cata/mop
jovial torrent
also bladestorm hitting like a truck
hearty vault
give to warrior a range skill with rage cost that u can spam while do normal dmg. Then u could play to kite as warrior while u do dmg, something that all classes does.
jovial torrent
i do kind of like that idea, a little range button to press other than heroic throw, maybe somthing that extends bleeds/ms effect
hearty vault
or slow target. I dont care, really. But Blizzar prefer that u are the class who look at the roof when u are root/disarm
spice hornet
every game is now spriest/lock
tame valve
Is fury taking the four piece set bonus for PVP?
green wharf
I said on the official foruns, slayer should be called blademaster, and their movement speed skill should give us invisibility for 3 seconds, true windwalk
hearty vault
and copies, then we could have a immunity defensive seconds Oo
green wharf
and copies, then we could have a immunity defensive seconds Oo
i proposed something similar: when we do the slayer strike, it could be that a copy appear and strike the target, and it sticks around doing auto attacks generating rage for a few seconds
visually cool and works basically the same
verbal tangle
I said on the official foruns, slayer should be called blademaster, and their mo...
They explicitly didn't want us using Blademaster shit (because fuck us)
green wharf
They explicitly didn't want us using Blademaster shit (because fuck us)
it was the same when they gave us that garbage arms artifact back in legion
because they didn't want us to give the axe of cenarius
Why give warriors the axe that wounded sargeras himself
get this ugly sword
slim knoll
I'm glad that instead of getting Broxigar in Maldraxus, we got thralls dumbass grandma. Nothing gets my testosterone pumping like a frail old woman.
severe skiff
Assuming no crafted weapon for now, 2x dmg proc or 2x versa lining embellish for arms?
lucid walrus
Assuming no crafted weapon for now, 2x dmg proc or 2x versa lining embellish for...
what's the damage proc?
severe skiff
focusing lens
lucid walrus
ahh
it honestly seems like more are running x2 ascendance
more run lens than lining though
been playing arms since week 1 and that ascend proc already felt pretty good. that's gotta be vicious with banding
severe skiff
I mean its 2.8-3%~ of a random secondary, nothing crazy but prob tech the strongest
I just dont want to use conquest on heraldry or free heraldry atm since I can get free weapon
if I was gearing war week1 I would of gone weapon/ascend
Feel like dmg proc is next best option, arms gets cleaved sub 80% too easily and everything I've played 2x lens on has it being 2.5% of total damage minimum, much higher in shorter fights with good procs
lucid walrus
yeah i think lining probably just sucks for us
weary gull
I had a ton of fun with Thane in rbg lastnight
Dmg was really good at times where i was in the thick of the fight
Seems to cleave really well
Have not tried it in arena though
slender wedge
got a spec example? ^^
distant dagger
If i have played all my bg blitzes in fury, and my 0 as arms, does switching to arms mean i do my placements/fresh mmr as arms?
barren blaze
Has the distance between arms and fury decreased since the arms buffs?
fierce elm
yes
but the distance between those werent the issue
the issue was the distance between Arms/Fury and all the good specs
fierce elm
If i have played all my bg blitzes in fury, and my 0 as arms, does switching to ...
yes
jovial torrent
accidently won a game with fisher hat on
also ninja capped ww by standing on priest bubble
elfin surge
PvP is deadge ya'll
jovial torrent
when im making my rings and stuff and adding elemental focusing lens, that only needs to be 1* material doesnt it, the proc isnt effected by star rating
fierce elm
correct
jovial torrent
do u need a gem in each bit with focusing lens, or just one gem in any of your gear, got a enduring bloodstone in atm but its not proccing
urban skiff
idk what you guys are complaining about? Mage is super easy on SMF thane
fickle forge
Skirmishes 
fickle forge
Skirmishes
urban skiff
death by autoattack
enh is like the most brain dead spec ever
which is perfect for me
willow plover
Im going to go out on a limb here and ask.. Does anyone here wana duo as my healer in blitz?
willow plover
death by autoattack
Might have to reroll soon
urban skiff
reroll to what?
willow plover
shaman
fickle forge
Enh sham is pretty fun, but also pretty fucking garbage
willow plover
Im f-tier as a player so that doesnt matter
fierce elm
thats where it matters the most : )
pure hornet
F-tier never felt this good before
Are you masochist?
urban skiff
Are you masochist?
yes if you put sado in front of that
sharp meteor
enh isnt even bad
urban skiff
enh isn't bad. It's just too hard to play for people who can't press stormstrike
pure hornet
I remember last year when arms was meta, you played fury, abd fury was f tier
Now you do same
You have some weird stuff going on
urban skiff
I also play prot
pure hornet
But i do like about you that you play what is fun for you, not meta
urban skiff
I was actually going to give arms a go and now it's turning meta
fickle forge
enh isnt even bad
urban skiff
give it two more weeks before fury is garbage and arms is the new thing to complain about. Even without any notable changes
fickle forge
I mean arms is still not good bro
urban skiff
yeah that's waht I'm talking about
pure hornet
give it two more weeks before fury is garbage and arms is the new thing to compl...
You might be right
fickle forge
It's better after buffs, but it doesn't matter what comp or build you go, it's no feral druid
urban skiff
!remind me in two weeks and i'll tag kargish
sharp meteor
Feral gets binned in like 2-3 weeks what of it
pure hornet
It's better after buffs, but it doesn't matter what comp or build you go, it's n...
Feral druid can be deleted from game. Me hates
fickle forge
I wonder if feral is good ya'll
urban skiff
yeh
fickle forge
What is it like 11.0.5 patch?
pure hornet
I wonder if feral is good ya'll <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Where the foc on that list is my warrior????
urban skiff
11.0.5 will bring a massive gigantic buff to enh
fickle forge
Last I heard the enh changes as a dps loss
urban skiff
in pve maybe
pvp damage profile is so different in pvp you might as well be talking about a different class
L M A O
my rotation is
- stormstrike
- go to 1
fickle forge
Call me blind bro, but I can't spot the feral nerfs
urban skiff
Call me blind bro, but I can't spot the feral nerfs
bro are you blind?
fickle forge
bro are you blind?
Ye where they at bro
Why would feral die with next patch
@sharp meteor Get in here man
Where the feral nerfs at
sharp meteor
Where the feral nerfs at
Next round of tuning. c:
urban skiff
They're coming.
feral is literally not permitted to be good, let alone great
Game is 20 years old now. We have some experience
sharp meteor
feral is literally not permitted to be good, let alone great
Huh
fickle forge
Aight so we got no feral nerfs inc
urban skiff
Yes we do
Just because you see empty tracks doesn't mean a train isn't going to pass through
sharp meteor
Feral will be nerfed dw about it
sharp meteor
just play blitz for a bit
urban skiff
https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616
can someone explain, I'm running out of crayons
jovial torrent
upgraded almost all my gear to epic now + enchants , the killing power feels good but still dwarfed by lock,priest dmg
fickle forge
Okay, but we got none inc
sharp meteor
oh god the fanboy is here too
elfin surge
doomed
fickle forge
Like none are announced yeah?
sharp meteor
will get nerfed dw about it
zinc tartan
lol jelly xD
fickle forge
We just assume they'll nerf feral within 3 months
hoary latch
or today
urban skiff
We just assume they'll nerf feral within 3 months
under a month
wheat jay
We just assume they'll nerf feral within 3 months
Do we?
urban skiff
I mean personally I don't care
I'm doing great against ferals
enh is rocking them kitties
fickle forge
Took 3 months to nerf DH in DF when it had more rep than healers
wheat jay
Stop the cap kargish
fickle forge
What cap
wheat jay
Took 3 months to nerf DH in DF when it had more rep than healers
Ok but what set of nerfs?
fickle forge
What the fuck are you talking about man
fickle forge
Mf drops into the convo randomly and just starts saying shit
wheat jay
Yep
Can I just say that i played some arms shuffles
And this class is horrendous to play
Into anything
Except maybe other warrior
willow plover
Do you guys ever lose so much that the wins doesnt even feel good anymore
zinc tartan
in DF it was like that
wheat jay
Do you guys ever lose so much that the wins doesnt even feel good anymore
Nah, dont rly care about losses or loss streaks
I don't feel good after losing to bullshit tho
urban skiff
Took 3 months to nerf DH in DF when it had more rep than healers
DH ain't feral
DH is actually popular to hate and popular to play
Nobody hating on feral, even when they're way OP
fickle forge
DH is actually popular to hate and popular to play
What does this even mean bro
wheat jay
What does this even mean bro
Like warrior when its good
Its always popular
Whenever its strong people go apeshit crazy
hoary latch
buff arms - mage main
fickle forge
You think people don't hate on the cats when they do 50% more dps than everyone else from pressing Rip and Rake?
wheat jay
Nerf mage - arms main
hoary latch
Nerf mage - arms main
lmao
wheat jay
You think people don't hate on the cats when they do 50% more dps than everyone ...
Ye i do, just explaining zerc point
hoary latch
nah just buff to our level
fickle forge
I know a guy who despises ferals whenever they're remotely good
hoary latch
atleast ferals die, dh’s immortal when they’re high tier unless super good go in a cross setup
dh and hunter probably the most cancerous to be S tier
zinc tartan
def Hunter
urban skiff
What does this even mean bro
M8 I hate to say it but you have terminal fury brain
no way you can't understand that sentence
wheat jay
Hunter right now is overloaded beyond reason
zinc tartan
100
wheat jay
Way too much cc
hoary latch
they counter both my warr and mage lol
zinc tartan
100 defensives
hoary latch
the most shit hunters will have impact
wheat jay
Defensives wouldn't hurt so much if cc and ability to kite and peel was worse
fickle forge
M8 I hate to say it but you have terminal fury brain
I mean it makes no sense what you say
wheat jay
Real
urban skiff
I mean it makes no sense what you say
what does this even mean
wheat jay
Afro want to do some keys later?
fierce elm
Them 6 deaths on last pull in Mists
wheat jay
Them 6 deaths on last pull in Mists
Bruh, rly?
fierce elm
lmao
urban skiff
Them 6 deaths on last pull in Mists
yikes
wheat jay
Nah my guy is INTING
fierce elm
Razonko also died its ok
urban skiff
that's like -10 minutes
wheat jay
that's like -10 minutes
90s but okay
fierce elm
I can probably do keys later, I might have a healer online already
fierce elm
Yeah wtf razonko kick the unkickable cast wtf
wheat jay
I can probably do keys later, I might have a healer online already
Im sorta tempted to craft a 1h weapon
And id have tank setup ready somewhat xD
wheat jay
I got 626 shield already
fierce elm
ret stonks in keys below 13 is UP tho
willow plover
Busting my ass for rating unchanged
fierce elm
need an 10 city and like a few 11s for KSH
willow plover
what is ksh ?
willow plover
ah nice
willow plover
Is that once per season u get that?
fierce elm
I mean I got one 10 timed and it was 11 dawnbreaker
fierce elm
Is that once per season u get that?
yeah
willow plover
Are u all on EU ?
fierce elm
Besides I need da portals
fickle forge
Nah I snipe @elfin surge on NA
wheat jay
I played kfc with mud on eu
fickle forge
It's my feral alt that's been farming him on stream
wheat jay
Kargish fursona playing feral, he calls himself NA Snupy
Pretty weird
But im not kinkshaming
wheat jay
Fanboy
fickle forge
We gotta bully the redbull emo boy every now and then, or he'll forget who we are man
willow plover
is it possible to see my actual mmr somewhere because the rating is just some sort of score right?
willow plover
Went insaneo style in this one but no rating
Is that just cause the system expects me to win
urban skiff
Went insaneo style in this one but no rating
Kings have to defend their throne m8
willow plover
Makes sense i guess
urban skiff
What is that absolutely wild MMR tho
willow plover
idk man im in literal bgb hell
urban skiff
Game fully expected you to completely carry that
fickle forge
Is that just cause the system expects me to win
It does yes
You're at least 300 mmr above the lobby
willow plover
I inspected my teammates and everyone there was at around 30% winrate
elfin surge
Nah I snipe <@269709440146604032> on NA
willow plover
Kings have to defend their throne m8
Was that a play on my character name btw
urban skiff
Losing rating on 1k cr though
takes some effort
willow plover
I mean the people im playing with literally forgets to play sometimes during a game
I started playing with the small zone map opened and its pretty nice to see when people just run away from bases and leaves them undefended
agile cedar
my #1 rule of bgb is
i absolutely never
take it seriously
because its an absolute shitshow clown fiesta
willow plover
That is an exceptional rule
sand sundial
Is AM viable in 2v2?
urban skiff
Is AM viable in 2v2?
lol
yes
why wouldn't it be? You're losing around 10% damage on RB/BT
(on some RB/BT)
spice hornet
Nah I snipe <@269709440146604032> on NA
So you’re queueing around 1500 in 2s then?
agile cedar
That is an exceptional rule
Like obviously over a massive amount of games your own play is the main factor
But with so many players involved + no coordination, the variance is just insane. So its better to treat it as random bg that gives more conq lol
fickle forge
So you’re queueing around 1500 in 2s then?
My feral is loaded
rancid granite
Like obviously over a massive amount of games your own play is the main factor
...
loser talk
it's rated so treat it as rated and win
agile cedar
ok do it
rancid granite
agile cedar
but stop whining about bgb variance then
rancid granite
walk into rbgb like that
willow plover
The more i play the more i feel like whining about it.. actually losing my mind
rancid granite
touch grass instead imo
willow plover
I can literally go afk for half the blitz and still have done more dps than entire team
While doing objectives
rancid granite
kda players in blitz 
willow plover
kda player but also flag carrier in wsg
agile cedar
I don't think numbers are a useless metric in bgb but they're also sorta complex to unpack
sharp meteor
blitz is cool cos u can do 250m dmg and none of it means anything
run into zerk hut grab dmg buff 1-shot efc walking across mid after fearing healer get flag cap
or just see that enemy base sitter doesnt have trinket walk over fear him steal the base
blitz cringe cos brawling is a waste of time
just cheese objs
wich some specs are 10x better at
rancid granite
People love blitz.. they just hate losing. and more players = more excuses for losing... and more excuses to believe = more sad one gets got losing
rly easy concept
sharp meteor
nah people love free rating and blitz is the current popular mode
willow plover
You guys make it sound simple and easy but most games is completely impossible for me
sharp meteor
sort of like how shuff was popular in df cos it gave every 1800 player 2500
rancid granite
well that's I guess the other half of hating losing; people want easy free wins and get carried
both sides of the same coin
rancid granite
You guys make it sound simple and easy but most games is completely impossible f...
I don't say it's easy but it's simple... and to me that's the point of competitive nature
to want good competition
some grown ass people want a dunk competition vs little kids tho
willow plover
Good competition is not the same as having people throwing ur game
rancid granite
People love blitz.. they just hate losing. and more players = more excuses for l...
ya refer to this
willow plover
maybe i just cant play normally in my rating.. i have to like put music on and just zug like everyone else
rancid granite
idk there is no normal
try to adapt to the match and try to win 🤷
if you lose blame yourself and reflect on what you coulda done better, q next
willow plover
i try.. alot
rancid granite
a wise woman once said
haters gonna hate hate hate
just shake it off
shake it off
shrewd blaze
Has anyone here been playing with mountain thane fury and do you like it better than slayer?
fierce elm
Does it matter if someone else likes it?
shrewd blaze
If they have good reasons for liking it or if they feel it’s more effective then I wouldn’t mind knowing their perspective on it. I come here for some perspectives on fury PvP
fierce elm
It's not better if that is part of the perspective you want, but if you enjoy it then go run mountain thane
It probably has some like small advantage in BGB but I wouldn't say it's a lot
shrewd blaze
I think I’ll try it. It probably won’t make a big difference for the type of PvP I do since I hit the rating I wanted in blitz and am now doing just regular PvP. I was curious if anyone thought it felt better to play than slayer after the tuning.
rancid granite
isn't it just single target vs cleave?
so more melee heavy comp maybe thane is favored?
agile cedar
Thane is better for pad in cleave situations, sure
shrewd blaze
so more melee heavy comp maybe thane is favored?
It’s aoe stun with stormbolt seems cool
copper fox
If you want to play thane play prot 😈
rancid granite
It’s aoe stun with stormbolt seems cool
oh yeah, I forget what it has cause I never really tried it yet lol
shrewd blaze
But not sure I want to trade away unrelenting onslaught from slayer. I love storm bolting people while bladestorming
halcyon ocean
Has anyone here been playing with mountain thane fury and do you like it better ...
I’ve been playing it and it feels good, your not going to be the hero like with slayer but your going to be able to control the flow of battle and efcs in flag games
verbal tangle
Yeah Slayer vs Thane really depends on map/comps
serene kestrel
who worth it to watch thats playing arms rn?
chilly magnet
who worth it to watch thats playing arms rn?
Feral druids
onyx marlin
damn niksi playing colossus so they notice spec is trash and buff it?
urban skiff
If you want to play thane play prot 😈
enh is superior thane
urban skiff
suffer what?
Enh is mega bugged in 11.0.5 and going to rip people to absolute shreds in the first couple of days
There's a buggy interaction between deeply rooted elements and ride the lightning / arc discharge
Going to have 100% uptime on ascendance with it
lapis otter
fucking fotm disc priests
keen sinew
Hi, should I get the 4 set bonus for Fury PvP? I'm checking murlok.io and it seems most of ppl have only the 2 set
narrow compass
Trust in the Murlock
rancid granite
I need another melee to play. Do I make Enh and suffer?
join me in trying to big brain rogue
copper fox
The buff was for pve only
halcyon ocean
Hi, should I get the 4 set bonus for Fury PvP? I'm checking murlok.io and it see...
I just don’t think the trade off losing the vers for the set pieces is worth it, I’m going to run the two set pieces that keep vers
copper fox
join me in trying to big brain rogue
I’m way too low iq for that nonsense
I came up with a great idea
I’ll just make another warrior
cinder thorn
Rogues have an extra finger mutation
keen sinew
Guys, can you use ping to mark someone to be attacked without hovering over the character?
When I target someone and press the Attack ping, it just pings somewhere where my cursor is
boreal veldt
Guys, can you use ping to mark someone to be attacked without hovering over the ...
you can play with this macro /ping [@mouseover,harm] Attack; [@mouseover,help] [@target,help] Warning [@target,harm] Attack
You can remove the mouseover parts if you strictly want to use the target
am i crazy or is the AWC just so cooked this season
scarlet barn
Pvp is cooked this season prob
copper fox
What about the ww ele and the sp rogue
And the rsham
And the holy priest
And the ret warr
And the hpal
You forgot to add those lol
And the boomy rogue
pure hornet
Guys if a friend is from ucraine, can he realm transfer to English EU ?
copper fox
Dh ele
Insanely diverse awc this season
hot solstice
Guys if a friend is from ucraine, can he realm transfer to English EU ?
should be, I am also from Ukraine, had no problems transfering to tarren mill
jovial torrent
diceroll city
onyx marlin
blitz bg is prob the worst thing blizzard even implemented in this game pvp wise
jovial torrent
is collosus better, havent tried it yet
verbal tangle
is collosus better, havent tried it yet
Fury is better tbh
jovial torrent
really still better even after nerfs/buffs
keen sinew
you can play with this macro /ping [@mouseover,harm] Attack; [@mouseover,help] [...
thanks a lot, it really helped me
sharp meteor
diceroll city
i remember i had a game that i won
where i was 6 of our 6 kills as prot
actually dragging people kicking and screaming to victory
games so all over the place with skill level
long marlin
Guys, is it worth going for 4p tier set ?
tribal wedge
Guys, is it worth going for 4p tier set ?
what spec?
tribal wedge
fury no, arms yes
tribal wedge
anyway tier set isn't a game changer this season
sonic cedar
Has anyone been Thaning it up in world pvp and random bg's recently? Does it hold up-ish vs Slayer ?
lavish quest
I played it in some blitz. It's decent at aoe pad. Big dam
frosty flower
arms 4pc prot 2pc fury...probs 2pc?
Does it matter which pieces arms gets?
sharp meteor
Does it matter which pieces arms gets?
i mean if we're avoiding crit that means chest
but if for one reason or another you wanna go crit then w/e
in general crit awful imo
but if rando burst in your mind is swinging games more often than a tiny bit more haste or passive dmg then ye, go for it.
frosty flower
I fucked up, I saw an old bahjeera video where he said haste then crit I forget the reasoning but it seems like things have changed
sharp meteor
in higher mmr areno where people don't rando die imo crit often worse even if heavily go based unless very lethal
rancid granite
where thst recent magnus guide he likes it too
sharp meteor
if rando hits lethal enough
then it can be fine
mastery pretty mid for arms
and prot
frosty flower
I tried going haste crit and it felt awful
sharp meteor
i just go haste>vers>mastery with a few crumbs of crit sprinkled in for arms
bit of crit probs > mastery for blitz
fierce kite
is the idea to sit in defence stance when not bursting? feel like I dont activate it enough
sharp meteor
is the idea to sit in defence stance when not bursting? feel like I dont activat...
dstance is more like when you're trading unfavorably
rancid granite
magnusz * liked the haste/crit said it felt good but haste/mastery ok too, in his guide
fierce kite
dstance is more like when you're trading unfavorably
Ah okay, thank you
frosty flower
Mastery vers feels a little better
rancid granite
frosty flower
Are the stats pretty much the same between slayer and demolish?
rancid granite
should be
frosty flower
Right on thanks guys
fierce kite
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UPB2UuZOLCqUsROHdwdtZmiJ2EWWklj4ea7FBE5Mwvo/...
how long has this been a thing?
rancid granite
idk
some good knowledge in there tho
that + murlok.io can't go too wrong
throw in bahjeera and throw in following your heart :D
fierce kite
I was just wondering as Ive been winging a lot of stuff, wish I found that sooner
rancid granite
even after reading up on all of it, there still seems like a ton of variety
so I end up winging it anyway
treating it as a video game and just going with which seems the coolest and most fun lol
going lens embellish instead of what's in that guide etc etc etc
distant dagger
I fucked up, I saw an old bahjeera video where he said haste then crit I forget ...
he said crit if playing colossus, bc the ms crits give 2 stacks to demolish
fierce kite
if you turn pvp gear into tear does it change the stat values of the tier?
frosty flower
No tier has set stats
fierce kite
No tier has set stats
ah fair. So I have 639 tier items they are worth running?
frosty flower
It’ll change from your pvp gear to the tier
fierce kite
or is all vers gear more important?
frosty flower
Scroll up they were talking about what specs wants set bonus
I can’t answer that I’m not that good at warrior
Still learning myself
fierce kite
fair. They seem to run it on murlok, guess its worth?
well thats one guy at least. Dont know
hybrid socket
Arms or fury for bg blitz?
copper fox
Yes
pale dew
Hey, as arms. Should i prefer execute or mortal strike when available?
boreal veldt
Hey, as arms. Should i prefer execute or mortal strike when available?
This is how i see it.
Slayer: Is MS debuff up? Use execute.
Colossus: Use MS. Is MS on cd? Use execute.
pale dew
NICE, thanks!
amber heron
yo
@ornate torrent
@somber jacinth
why do cloth mail and leather wearers get special crafted PVE gear but plate does not?
frosty flower
What special crafted gear?
lucid walrus
we do
lucid walrus
that depends on what you wanna make lol
the base purple item will be called everforged [x]
amber heron
no bro
U DONT UNDERSTAND MAN
everforged
doesnt have any special set bonus
look at cloth wearers, they get "dusk" 2 piece set bonus gear
gives them 2500 haste
mail wearers get some sort of. 3 set honeybee gear
lucid walrus
link these
amber heron
oh now ur starting to wake up
wake the fuck up man
plate wearers got a huge dick up their ass
blizzard said fuck all of u
dude idk how to link it
go to the crafting table
and type in "rolling thunderstone tallons"
thats the leather one
for cloth its "slippers of the woven dusk"
for mail its "Smoldering Paulen haulberk:
"
I want a refund on my warrrior character that i leveled
lucid walrus
oh this shit comes pre-embellished
lucid walrus
blacksmith shows pre-embellished boots w/ no set bonus called sanctified steps
amber heron
what?
frosty flower
amber heron
oh so ur saying that im 1000% correct
and warriors got fucked over
yet again
not u spdr
frosty flower
that 606 gear is gonnd do wonders
amber heron
bro
u have n oclue what ur talking about
u are a 1000 rated player who is garbage
thank u for outing urslef
frosty flower
im 1100 thank you very much
amber heron
once u get the crests from being 2400+
u can upgrade it to 636
look at where it says "optianl regents"
with the lock
once u put the spark in
it will unlock
i cant believe blizzard did this
lucid walrus
we did get fucked on the set but it won't matter. takes an embellished slot
frosty flower
you cant upgrade crafted gear with crests?
frosty flower
please do i need to learn this shit
amber heron
and come back
amber heron
ok look
i wil teach u
once u get a certain rating in pvp
u will start to get these crests
they are called "harbinger crests"
frosty flower
do you have to be a cloth/leather/mail wearer to get this at this certain rating?
frosty flower
r u 4 r347
amber heron
is he trolling mme
frosty flower
not sure if srs or hwhat
amber heron
im dead seriouis
frosty flower
you need to respect the srs tag
amber heron
srs?
frosty flower
you're just unware, nevermidn
amber heron
dude whatever ur saying is irrelevant
frosty flower
ok so they get this 606 gear then hwhat
frosty flower
big dog
hybrid socket
Any ideas on what mode of pvp is best to push as a war right now? Blitz seems to be the Blizzard fav in general
frosty flower
come on
lucid walrus
nobody on murlok has gone for it
frosty flower
lettuce be real tea
lucid walrus
Any ideas on what mode of pvp is best to push as a war right now? Blitz seems to...
blitz is giga inflated if you just want rewards yeah
frosty flower
or ret
hybrid socket
I got my 1800 I don't really know what rewards are worth going for
frosty flower
all of them are worth going for
hybrid socket
What's juicy
amber heron
dont kill the messenger, im just saying what venruki and supatese said on AWC
lucid walrus
whatever you want really
frosty flower
get that tabard
lucid walrus
tabard and enchant are cool
hybrid socket
Enchant is 2100?
frosty flower
the enchant isnt that cool
frosty flower
but get the tabard
frosty flower
yeah but, like take the 1h mace
it doesnt follow the maces' animation
it goes straight while the mace falls down like it should
hybrid socket
What CR do you get the tabard at?
frosty flower
2400
lucid walrus
2400
amber heron
teusday the best day for fast ques
lucid walrus
first season tends to get a good chunk of inflation built up by the end
lucid walrus
they all do but the hype is there for the first tier especially
hybrid socket
How does gameplay in blitz change as fury from like 1600 to 2400?
Get better at actually doing the game mode
knock down healers
frosty flower
i've found weekend nights and wednesday-friday afternoons the best
frosty flower
knock down healers
just target whoever the dk grips
frosty flower
probably not gonna kill healers but dps are fair game
amber heron
dude
someone please
contact blizzard
get plate a set bonus
@elfin surge
wtf r u doing bro
wake up
elfin surge
sup
amber heron
go the the crafting table please
elfin surge
contact dn
amber heron
i want to expose blizzard
amber heron
no one uses tier
omg 1.1% overpower buff
0.5% overpower buff yes dude
FUCK YES
who is dn?
verbal tangle
who is dn?
Deez Nutz
amber heron
i figured it was something like that but
frosty flower
contact dn
😆
urban skiff
willow plover
Is ratings separate per spec now ? so if i swap to arms i kinda "start over" ?
willow plover
Thats cool
violet fossil
that sucks lol
urban skiff
that sucks lol
i just want to get brawl quests done for stupid fast conq 😦
violet fossil
is classic ashran just ashran but lasts all day
urban skiff
yes, it's eternal
violet fossil
damn I need to do brawl too
urban skiff
you complete brawl quests by doing the events outside the road. great fun
and it's really fast and you can just leave whenever you feel like it
violet fossil
it’s just the 1 brawl quest right?
urban skiff
yes, then you hand in and get a second for 3 wins
willow plover
Is there some website that tracks your historical results per pvp season, lets ay i want to see my win/loss for BFA, does that exist ?
or is that statistics just gone
urban skiff
unfortunately no
download the REFlex addon to get a record, but it only tracks while installed
There's a website you can upload your REFlex data to , that will preserve it
green wharf
urban skiff
@fierce elm are you sick still?
fierce elm
Me at work
Will be back to working out on monday because my lungs still dont like me that much
tribal holly
Will be back to working out on monday because my lungs still dont like me that m...
covid?
wheat jay
He's sick from hyperventilating after someone looked him in the eye
urban skiff
He's sick from hyperventilating after someone looked him in the eye
@tribal holly i'd like to report a murder
tribal holly
<@143839248422928384> i'd like to report a murder
Justified
wheat jay
fierce elm
@tribal holly can you moderate this chat pla
tribal holly
no
urban skiff
All things in moderation. Even moderatio
tribal holly
<@143839248422928384> can you moderate this chat pla
You just have to deal with eye contact
fierce elm
I would like to report a harmful DM
tribal holly
well thats a different story
fierce elm
Artji DMd a picture of his schlong
wheat jay
He's lying your honor
fierce elm
Clear harassment
wheat jay
There were balls in the photo too
wheat jay
Yes
tribal holly
where proof
wheat jay
Ye Afro where proof
tribal holly
You see im objective
fierce elm
My record is spotless
tribal holly
i need proof to render a judgement
fierce elm
LIES
wheat jay
True he died to 1st pack frontal in boralus
tribal holly
True he died to 1st pack frontal in boralus
@fierce elm you got off easy
tribal holly
I would have flamed him for the rest of the key
tribal holly
how do you die to the slowest frontals in m+ is beyond me
wheat jay
He bad
urban skiff
26% bodyfat at 100kg bw. I am stronger than when i was scanned, if i weigh myself under the same conditions as when i was scanned (fasting, time of day) i should be able to know my new bf% right?
fierce elm
<@144859308557860864> you got off easy
the fucking stairs man
fierce elm
26% bodyfat at 100kg bw. I am stronger than when i was scanned, if i weigh mysel...
Yes, in a perfect world
unfortunately most arent that accurate unless you go for a water scan
tribal holly
the fucking stairs man
excuses
urban skiff
unfortunately most arent that accurate unless you go for a water scan
It was a full dexa scan for my spine bone health, where they informed me, since they could tell i train
fierce elm
Yeah I wouldnt trust the bf% gotten from any machine tbh
Even dexa scans
Just base it on what you see instead
urban skiff
I'm down 3kg and my max is up by a few kg on all lifts
lusty talon
Arms or fury in 2s with resto druid? 🙂
fierce elm
Either works
lusty talon
Equal good?
urban skiff
Just funky how my serratus are showing way earlier than my abs
fierce elm
Equal good?
yeah
fierce elm
Just funky how my serratus are showing way earlier than my abs
Genetics baby
Have had shoulder veins at like 140kg
It just do be like that
My bicep vein shows earlier than forearm veins too which is weird
urban skiff
I got real bad biceps genetics
On the other hand won the lottery on forearms and calves
fierce elm
Just part of the life, my legs hold a fuckton of fat though
My chest has always been smol
Just part of being a human unfortunately
urban skiff
We weren't made for big chests. We're made for pulling not pushing. And throwing
fierce elm
I push with my back
urban skiff
I back with my push
rancid granite
I can't lift from injury and I can't wow cause no power
copper fox
Rip
rancid granite
don't take for granted your blessings buddies
tidal rain
don't take for granted your blessings buddies
lol smh
fierce elm
rolled
rancid granite
willow plover
What is the brawl ashran thing someone talked about earlier? There is some valuable quests there?
urban skiff
I can't lift from injury and I can't wow cause no power
lift with your brain
urban skiff
What is the brawl ashran thing someone talked about earlier? There is some valua...
when you get inside, you get the weekly brawl quest to win brawls
Doing just one side mission will complete the quest
willow plover
What is the reward?
rancid granite
lift with your brain
playing rogue has been a good exercise in this
I'm gonna become agile gymnastic flexi guy instead of a moving mountain like afro
pure hornet
On the other hand won the lottery on forearms and calves
I only have back shoulders and legs
Weak chest calves, and thick waist
Weak biceps
Decent tri
Average willy
fierce elm
I just dont have the size to what I life
lift*
when it comes to chest/tris
but its w.e
pure hornet
Try lowering weight and go intense
wheat jay
Afro is just genetically weak
tribal holly
Afro is just genetically weak
I mean hes eye contact avoider what did you expect 8)
cinder thorn
why u posting pve shit in pvp channel bro
lavish quest
Because this is where we gather, no one actually cares lol
pure hornet
In the end it just comes down to genetics unofrt
If you dose testosterone 1k and some gh and insulin , maibe some trenbolone, then genetics will be remade
fierce elm
lmao
fierce elm
why u posting pve shit in pvp channel bro
this is off topic sir
cinder thorn
we "pvpers" gather here
pve channels go this way ----->
im doing prot bgbs but I dont have the purple sword/shield since I spent tokens on two handers qq
fierce elm
This is a PvE channel