pvp

[plush cairn]

so ill stick to solo

[fierce elm]

you cant go too high on vers

but really this doesnt matter lmao

[thick reef]

david is the dude who was posting pics of his dick in here btw

just so yall know

[fallen estuary]

😳

[rancid granite]

what a chad

bet it was triumphant and muscley like it benches as much as afro

anyway, do we still say arms is haste to taste? i got 20% it feels great

so it seems to me the rest should go vers/mast

[fierce elm]

lmao I know

Haste is always to taste

[fickle forge]

Unless it isn't

[fierce elm]

Shut up KARGISH

[fickle forge]

Afro? Vulgore? Never heard of them.

[wheat jay]

Wackfro

All his homies are raiding and he still wants to play arena

Like its classic

[fickle forge]

Afro doesn't play at all because he's on vacation

[gritty halo]

Got ported from a locks shadow rift in blitz and disconnected. Log back in ,I’m removed from the bg and lost 200 points. Sick fucking game.

[worthy fern]

I’d put a ticket in cause that’s some bullshit

[wheat jay]

And they wont do shit about it

Rip

[worthy fern]

Crazy

[gritty halo]

I made a ticket but I wasn’t very nice about it and I’m sure nothing will change but that knocked me from 2150 back down. 200 points in blitz is a fucking lot…

[fierce elm]

IM IN BERLIN MAN

[pure hornet]

Guyz can i make two embelish of same type?

Duskthread lining?
Versatility above 80%

[plush cairn]

is blitz actually easier than solo?

to hit 1800

solo im in the range between 1600-1700

bg's so far 5wins in a row and got me to 1307, however win rate was kinda trash on start

0-6 in solo put me back by quite a bit

[clear pine]

I try to see blitz not as a ranked mode. Just trying to have fun in bgs where I can make an impact.

[plush cairn]

i just want the elite set

so i wouldnt feel bad about not getting head/shoulders

lmao

i also fucked up bad by buying pve hands accidentally

so that puts me back by 1x 639 piece

was drunk

considering theres warnings before buying/equipping it, i wont get it refunded

so whatever

i will probably go tierset-less this season for pvp

[fickle forge]

I didn't just say that no

[fallen estuary]

It is

[plush cairn]

so its still giving me 180mmr per win

even after hitting 1500 blitz

[fallen estuary]

Im 1980 rn at 2700 mmr using smf as fury

[plush cairn]

i just want elite tbh

set looks dope

[fallen estuary]

This is the worst elite set tbh unchained is way better

[plush cairn]

arena is 50/50 rlly

[fallen estuary]

Those weps tho

[plush cairn]

taeschalach + this set looks nice

but

[fallen estuary]

They made the cool red set the glad set not elite

[plush cairn]

legion elite + taeschalach is where its at

the juggernaut one

[fallen estuary]

Yea that one is the best war set

But blizzard isnt goood anymore to make that set

[plush cairn]

idk man

feels like they love locks

locks always banger sets

[abstract prawn]

What is the reason for crafting wep with embellish instead of using 2x tokens on weapon? cant you just put embellish on a random crafted piece?

[rancid granite]

cloth 👎

[plush cairn]

should i put all 3x unique gems

or just the cc reduction

and 8x stats

[plush cairn]

i mean it just looks best designed

why cant they make warr set good

s1 df was kinda nice

but its plain still

blitz was fairly dogshit on start

[cinder thorn]

I think you can only have one unique gem

[violet fossil]

it’s not that bad

dk is the worst

[rancid granite]

i always feel like paladins are =p

[plush cairn]

the primary stat one i mean

theres 3 of em

[rancid granite]

the redone sets coming soon make me wanna level my pally

[plush cairn]

damage/speed/cc reduction

bloodstones

redone sets?

[rancid granite]

the uh

revamped tier 2 sets or w/e

[plush cairn]

ahh

imagine dreadnaught

hd

[plush cairn]

my inner-goblin would run naxx on 1k alts

[rancid granite]

not a fan of the warrior one but still cool

[plush cairn]

would drive lamented up

t3 dreandaught warrior in hd would be my fav

[crystal harbor]

ferals are a bit clapped

can't fucking hit anybody vs a feral. skill issue?

[narrow compass]

40th anniversary

[worthy fern]

@rancid granite looks bad on kul tiran

Just like everything

Going to look sick on orc or night elf

[rancid granite]

lol yeah

thinner the char the better things look is my take

[dense herald]

guys

do i play authority of radiant power or authority of the depths

looks 50/50 on murlok

[lavish quest]

Why not both?

clueless~1

[dense herald]

what

this is my first time getting a draw

in a bg

[orchid badge]

cool 😄

[plush cairn]

lol

got achi spam too

now need to get either of these to 1800

[worthy fern]

@dense herald had one the other day on kotmogu, I kill their two orb holders at like 1495 and we pick up two and get to 1500 but someone how they still gain points with zero orbs?

I didnt even know that happened

[dense herald]

ye htat happened to me aswell

they were 20 points behind we killed the last orb carrier of theirs and they gained points and we drew

[chilly pivot]

any good weakaura that gives u a warning when enemy pop big cooldowns?

[lavish quest]

Go find Mes'

[boreal veldt]

looks so good

purple beyblade lookin ahh

they need to update more left behind classic raid weapons

untamed blade, both draconic axes, the AQ weapons

[verbal tangle]

I mean the AQ 2h Sword looks fine

[plush cairn]

full st baby

[verbal tangle]

Low poly doesn't mean bad

[plush cairn]

yeet

sadge not 6killing blows

[grand prism]

Kalimdors revenge is a sick looking sword fr

[verbal tangle]

Ye, the "low poly is bad" 40 IQ mentality needs to stop

[grand prism]

All glowy and shit, enchants look great on it

[verbal tangle]

I like how people are so amazed by new T2 like it still doesn't look like ass

[plush cairn]

new things amaze addicts brain

its like new type of heroin for heroic addicts

[boreal veldt]

didn't say bad, said deserved an update

[orchid badge]

am i griefing if i play protwarr in shuffle?

the taunt talent is very strong

[lavish quest]

Yup

In blitz too

[plush cairn]

fury gigachad damage

holy

[orchid badge]

fury can die tho

[crystal harbor]

who has 90% roots

cos these are doing my head in

so zzzzz

[pure hornet]

I took elemental focusing lens and vers over 80% embelishments, since i took free weapons , and wont craft ascension

Hope its not much difference

[boreal veldt]

nah embelishments are so minimal this season

[plush cairn]

sham/druid wasnt fun to play against

but still averaged out 500k dps

constant roots and shit

[dense herald]

better than frost mage

which u cant catch

or devoker

[plush cairn]

i play rebound/warbringer

or barbarian/warbringer

frost u can catch that way

[dense herald]

dont pla yt hose

[plush cairn]

atleast

[dense herald]

warbringer is bad

tho

[plush cairn]

hmm

[orchid badge]

can warrior play 2 dps 2v2?

[plush cairn]

maybe death wish?

for bursts

[boreal veldt]

can always try some ret/war

tale as old as time

[plush cairn]

hmm

ill try death wish

+50% 5stacks seems overpowered

lol

that means ill just burst through like 1.8mil dps

[boreal veldt]

dw is incredibly fun

[plush cairn]

do i just go in 5stack gigachad yolo mode?

[boreal veldt]

absolutely in the beginning of arena matches just go hog wild

[plush cairn]

every arena ppl barely survive my burst

gets em down to 20%

[boreal veldt]

should be a little more conscious of it as damp increases though

[plush cairn]

keep healer close for aoe fear

and go full st

gonna try it with dw

lmao

5stacks of dw in a bg blitz

1.1mil dps for like 2.5min

aoe

ppl panic immune'ing themselves

healer pumping hps on me

fun

[plush cairn]

its insane in arenas

900k dps just fully ST bursting

peaked at like 3mil on start

[pure hornet]

Anyone tried high haste?

[plush cairn]

would 9% haste be too low?

[pure hornet]

Yes

[plush cairn]

10?

i saw some top shufflers playing with 8% haste

[soft lava]

arms kinda gay though

oh nvm u play prot

giga

[orchid badge]

i think prot + dps could be good in 2s

[iron pebble]

hello guys, what stas should i look for in Arms for pvp ? i do solo suffle and RBG. Maybe 3s later in the season

i mean % for each

[fierce elm]

No % to aim for really

Is that it with pvp gear or not

[iron pebble]

not fully, its new char just gearing

[soft lava]

According to icey veins for arms

from murlok idk how accurate dis shiet is though

[iron pebble]

so i need to balance my mastery a bit i guess, will buy gem for that

[fierce elm]

hit a pvp dummy

to get your real stats with scaled gear

[orchid badge]

i dont like that transmog

[iron pebble]

gnome hater

[orchid badge]

the color is cool but

[iron pebble]

gnomes the 🐐

you like this? @orchid badge

[soft lava]

i think this is fine tbh, might be better to drop some haste for some mastery though. don't think you will notice haste difference.. i don't rememebr soft cap

[iron pebble]

i will try to balance haste/mastery and do versa around 18-20

[orchid badge]

maybe on a tauren.

the blue colorful set is better for a gnome i suppose

[plush cairn]

ready to pomp

looks like it was +35k dps increase

with sims

and stat weights still want mastery

lol

[urban skiff]

what was?

[gritty halo]

Ngl Arms actually felt pretty good in a BG..used my Fury set too

[lucid walrus]

curious to see if this pans out

been saving most of mine this week

[urban skiff]

It does. I might spend a million or two for when price rebounds

It depends how much the price can recover before next bg week

[narrow compass]

Profaned tinderboxes shot up to 12K ea on Area-52....

o.O

[chilly pivot]

new pvp nerf? rallying cry?

[narrow compass]

Oh no....what now

[clear ember]

Oh god no

[wheat jay]

big

best reason to play pvp now xD

[urban skiff]

They fixed a bug that let people duplicate drops

[rancid granite]

link

[narrow compass]

ohhh

Now enchants will be 75K gold

[urban skiff]

They're still dropping in price after initial 15k bump. From 25k to 40k down to 32k right now

[narrow compass]

This makes so little sense.

[chilly pivot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gDrq24W6N_M?si=R2i_JPYlzqhAY74p just saw this , dont know thats why i ask

[violet fossil]

?

[rancid granite]

oh

fingers crossed cause 😭

[urban skiff]

Buy the other one.

[narrow compass]

I should've mentioned its for my Prot set

[narrow compass]

the minimal price diff between the ranks

[narrow compass]

I dont see anything in the recent hotfixes.

[chilly pivot]

same

[narrow compass]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/us/hotfixes-september-27-2024-24134803

Nothing there.

[prime solar]

Am I absolutely griefing if I don't play skullsplitter as arms?

[rancid granite]

its downright reportable

[prime solar]

thought so. boy do I dislike it.

[rancid granite]

murlok shows like no one using it lol

[prime solar]

I assume they're going fatality?

[rancid granite]

mmm some, check out murlok.io

warrior>arms spec

[plush cairn]

nerf my mastery blizzard

yolo build with 5stacks of dw

[rancid granite]

https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/solo

20 out of top 50

still a good amount

[prime solar]

Gonna give it a roll.

[plush cairn]

guess ill go spear build

5stacks dw + 44% mastery 25% versa + spear

good combo

149% dam increase

oh man how ill love to target mages with this shit

[rancid granite]

yeah im trying it off and on =p havent bothered with skullsplitter tho

[crimson onyx]

Anyone who know which piece is the optimal for craft when we are full BiS? (arms) I have crafted gloves now and saw that some ppl started going epic version on gloves now (crafted)

[plush cairn]

do u even get progress for saddle in 2s?

[hoary latch]

why so much haste for arms

wouldnt balancing some more mast be good

[rancid granite]

i imagine it kinda is

i hit like ~20% haste and still have a couple pieces for mast

id assume there's such thing as too much haste lol

[idle falcon]

is gladius bugged for anyone else?

[plush cairn]

anyone else play with similar talents?

[chilly pivot]

No . U like it ?

[plush cairn]

yeah

i use spear to root and for extra 25% dam

bitter immunity in case i get too low with 3-5stacks of dw

and that +3k strength is a good bonus

[chilly pivot]

What’s ur rating

[plush cairn]

just starting out

if i dont miss spear its usually a gg

2mil dps and ppl just vanish

thats why i stacked on 44% mastery

its a good build for brute force in low mmr

[chilly pivot]

Idk if it’s good in higher rating

[plush cairn]

yeah prolly not

however bitter immune seems good

u can sacrifice armored to the teeth or bitter immune for wrecking throw

1rank

i had a few 3s where i ended the match in like 20sec by doing 1.5mil+ dps

[fringe moat]

sorry -- havent played in 2 years! Is there a command/spell that lets me toggle between defensive and battle stance? Currently, all I see are two separate spells which is really annoying

[vestal moat]

Hey I didnt get the achievment for the weapon do I miss something ?

oh got it after the next arena

[violet fossil]

I guess it’s still bugged or intended but conquest earned from some quests were not counting towards the achievement

[copper fox]

Bitter immunity is trash

[plush cairn]

14 win streak in 2s

lets go

[chilly magnet]

Bi is not trash

[spark vigil]

what weapon enchants should i get for fury? 2 radiant power or radiant power/depths?

[verbal tangle]

I answered you already

[copper fox]

Bi definitely trash

[verbal tangle]

Mans is acting like a 20% heal and a debuff scrubber is bad

[copper fox]

100%

[spark vigil]

thank you! didn't see. just saw someone said i should post it here

[verbal tangle]

Yeah fuck em, you asked a Fury question, you get a Fury answer

PvE players always bitching

[spark vigil]

lol

[plush cairn]

this build banging

[verbal tangle]

[plush cairn]

fuck

30k honor gained today

+6 sockets

[prime marlin]

Hey guys i feel like I cant survive on this class. (First time fury war player)

[plush cairn]

so i played 69 2v2 games / 10 3v3 games / 15 bg blitz and 18 solo shuffles today

lmao

thats a fuck ton

[plush cairn]

survivability is kinda shit

big dam

just use cc's and utility

[fallen estuary]

brah im r 35 in blitz na

like i be winning all day

[plush cairn]

1700blitz feels like 1200 3s

lol

just meat walking around ready to die

[shrewd blaze]

Has anyone else geared up conquest in rated then gone into unrated and just massacred people? 😬 feel kinda bad

[gritty halo]

yeah its a nice change lol

[mellow tulip]

PVP weapons for fury

2x Forged Gladiator Greataxes?

[gritty halo]

1 crafted with embellishment and 1 conq

[empty owl]

For arms should I craft weapon this late into it or wait for the free one

[merry valley]

if ur starting to gear now then yh, use both tokens on 2 2h

the crafteted weapon was a powerboost early

not worth waste a token over that rn

later with conquests uncap craft the wep

[mellow tulip]

I mean, I have full greens and a few conq items

Crafted boots as well

I do only have 6 Glad Heraldrys though

Whats the play?

[plush cairn]

i crafted neck and ring

[urban skiff]

How does your vers look?

I'm worried it'll eat too much vers

even though I know some people are doing a vers-less ring

[plush cairn]

9% crit / 8% haste / 25% vers / 44% mastery

2v2 usually i finish off with 700-800k dps on average

cant outheal my shit

lmao

i can literally just pump dps without focusing healer cc's

and still win

[urban skiff]

I'm still looking for what % vers is ideal. It might a bit different for enh

[plush cairn]

The more the better

[urban skiff]

Problem is I can't seem to find what amount of mastery turns into 1% damage or I'd be able to optimize the stats

[plush cairn]

all ur gear should be versa

25% seems like a good range tbf

U need a lot of versa to get 1%

As for mastery its like 300 per %

And since ur gonna be enraged a lot

Mastery % is kinda good to go for

Havent met a fury warr yet in any arenas that can out dps me

So my build must be good even though its weird af being 8% haste

Even at 44% mastery stat weights tell me mastery/vers gives me highest dps increase even though im 6% haste unscaled

[urban skiff]

Yeah gearing fury is easy, we have a mastery that translates into pure damage

It's Enh that's bothering me

like what is this

[plush cairn]

Lol

Im still low mmr

1683 solo / 1649 blitz and 1643 2v2s

Shit i actually played 93 2s today

[fringe moat]

is there a command to switch stance and not have to press between the 2?

[plush cairn]

Yes

[urban skiff]

yes

I have the best macro

wait for this delve to end

#showtooltip
/use [stance:2] !Defensive Stance
/use [spec:2,nostance:2] !Berserker Stance
/use [spec:1/3,nostance:2] !Battle Stance

[plush cairn]

I suggest using a weakaura that tells u what stance ur on

So u dont forget

[urban skiff]

What I do is I have all my burst macros check my stance and swap to battle or berserker stance before popping off

can't onslaught in dstance

[plush cairn]

I use naowh pack

Burst macros?

I only use em for pve

Though that racial slows me down by 1sec to press on start

Might put it with avatar

[plush cairn]

Im wondering if ppl even use weakaura packs for pvp

Streamers use actionbars and default ui

And wa's for buffs

[urban skiff]

I don't, but I don't doubt I'd gain like 100-300 rating if i started using mes' weakaura pack

and configured nameplate addons to show cooldowns

[plush cairn]

I use naowh

[urban skiff]

I play very raw

[plush cairn]

I have action bars disabled + naowh warrior pack

And omnicd or whatever

For pvp cds

[urban skiff]

what the fuck is my kid watching on youtube

they're singing "everybody has 5 senses, those who don't are sinners"?

[plush cairn]

Lmao

[urban skiff]

anyways I'm still hitting into bubbles, evades, cloak etc for the first 3-4 globals before i register the immunity

[restive cobalt]

we outchea

[verbal ember]

So.. I was watching some joefernandez last night, and that guy is using bloodthirst a lot more than I am.. What's the prio list again? I thought raging blow > bloodthirst? But I seem to be getting conflicted responses on this

[mellow tulip]

Huge bro, nice.

What's that Xmog?

[urban skiff]

how high do i need to go before it shows rank? I was around #32 and it didn't show

[mellow tulip]

Is crafting another 2h really worth it, what am i going to do with my other 2h weapon conq token? Just leave it?

I will have to spend 800 conq to get enough heraldries to craft the other 2h

[urban skiff]

what would you gain from it?

[mellow tulip]

The Conq 2h?

I'm just asking lol, seems like a waste but if the crafted 2h is really worth it theni'll go with that

[urban skiff]

what would you gain from crafting it

[mellow tulip]

Embellishment and stat choice i suppose?

[mellow tulip]

It seems like all the top warriors have got the greatsword in main and the greataxe in the other, but i'm not sure if that's by choice or just because the 2 tokens for two 2handed weapons has only recently come into play

[keen sinew]

Hi, I found the fury build in the pinned posts. It's 1month old. Is there already an updated version of it?

[pure hornet]

Why some people run so much haste

?

Saw braxim running 14 k haste
Not even arms uses that much

[tribal wedge]

ask them

[urban skiff]

People trying different things, see what sticks and what doesn't.

Maybe they raise haste and use powerful enrage instead of frenzied

[rancid granite]

crafted wep you can buff with embellishment

[lavish quest]

I run mastery and powerful. Big dam

[plush cairn]

mastery very powerful indeed

actually got an idea

lmao

[verbal ember]

Man.. Everytime teammates suggests sticking on mage in SS. Queue the Benny hill song. What an absolute pain

Especially if they have a shammy with their displacement totems.

[lavish quest]

Not that it will help, but you can reflect those totems. Do with that information what you will

[plush cairn]

my favorite comp is mage and evoker

evoker f1 car, mage a teleporting spastic

cant even root evoker with spear

just flies away with breath lmao

whats better 2x radiant power or 2x depths?

on my weapons

[abstract prawn]

any fix for this bug yet?

[rancid granite]

just keep pvping

[lavish quest]

So if you read the achievement, it says "earn 2500 conquest"

So if it didn't complete, you may have obtained 2500 conquest, but in blizzard's eyes, you didn't earn it

So do better

[mental knoll]

Can you buy the warlord/Marshal gear from area 52 with solo rated bg ratings now?

[rancid granite]

yeh

I got to 1799 on my Warr then melted back down to 1600

then stuck with the +10 a win

I WANT MY SWORD

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-17550107775956741096

[hollow burrow]

Anyone here able to craft algari great sword ?

[rancid granite]

try a craft order or a shout in trade chat

always been instant for me!

[verbal ember]

If that's true. Then it's golden. Thanks

[hollow burrow]

My servers horde side is a bit lack luster but I will try!

[cinder thorn]

lol big brain talk I like it

[lavish quest]

How it feels to play warrior in today's blizzard

[lavish quest]

If reflect is up you can just walk out of it

[rancid granite]

speak for yourself im ROCKIN and puttin in work; makin plays

*purely rbg

[lavish quest]

I speak for warrior kind

[rancid granite]

swapping between assa/sub, fury/arms, all been great and fun and impactful

[lavish quest]

I am the voice of Skyhold

Behold

[rancid granite]

odyn woulda tossed you out the first tear shed

[lavish quest]

I beat Odyn's ass

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/odin-thor-ragnarok-oh-shit-gif-12390459

im trying to level pally to try some holy/ret but god damn it can be boring

but yeah im loving arms i hadn't really played it til now this expac

[plush cairn]

deeps seems to be better

2x

[lavish quest]

Ret is some fun

We love smashing buttons here

[rancid granite]

its a lot more chill for a change

[remote cosmos]

Ret in 11.0.5 looks promising

[rancid granite]

cause ranged lol

[plush cairn]

1700 done

now 1800

[clear pine]

congratz

[lyric violet]

is demo arms good?

[rancid granite]

sure

[worthy fern]

No

Demo bad arms bad demo arms bad

[rancid granite]

^ that guy is trash dont listen to him

arms fine demo fine warrior fine

[lavish quest]

Warrior is fine if you like losing

[rancid granite]

^ also trash

[lavish quest]

I'm better than u hoe

[lyric violet]

if you arent s tier you're f tier

-ricky bobby

[rancid granite]

dont make me add your name to the meme

[lyric violet]

im agreeing with ya

BOSS

[lavish quest]

If you think C tier is good, you're delusional or not so bright

[rancid granite]

you're not wrong there

but it's not C tier

3 real tiers; S+ meta -> playable -> unplayable D/F tier

[lavish quest]

@elfin surge Is arms good?

The people must know

[rancid granite]

mud is a meme doomer tryhard he doesnt count

his name is literally MUD

basically his name is DIRT

[lavish quest]

Mud might be mid, but he's the R1

And our SF

[rancid granite]

he's gonna say it's unplayable cause it's not S+++ tier cause he's a DWEEB

[lavish quest]

Bruh, you think it's playable cause you 1200

[rancid granite]

playable is for the common man

good/playable isn't the same as pushing R1

[lavish quest]

Mages down there still play with one hand

[rancid granite]

like if you wanna sweat and push high ranks R1 and want to play any class/spec, sure, go for the meta S+ fotm

but arms/warrior still playable and able to do well

able to get your tier/mogs etc

[lavish quest]

Just because a C tier can beat a bad player doesn't make it not c tier... -.-

[rancid granite]

or if you really like warrior and dont wanna play another class; you can still play it and do well on it

[lavish quest]

Ye, that's what I do. I just accept the truth of the matter and push it

[rancid granite]

average joe just wants to have fun pvping on warrior; not kind to just yell at him its TRASH DONT EVEN TRY 😛

[lavish quest]

Who said don't try?

[rancid granite]

everyone saying its trash and unplayable, same thing

i dont think any realistic r1 pushers are gonna be asking those questions anyway

[lavish quest]

We have prot warriors in here. You can push on whatever even if it's still trash cause that's your thing.

Don't gotta lie to people tho

[rancid granite]

BESIDES buffs and nerfs come and go

[lavish quest]

So they asking about how it is now

[rancid granite]

< meta playable trash> is the list still

not trash

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-yapper-yapping-what-huh-gif-17267607410251793922

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-22891134

[deep epoch]

I find warrior to be strong, why do people think it’s “C tier?” What’s the reasoning? YouTube?

[verbal tangle]

Certain matchups (Frost Mage in particular) you just lose

[lavish quest]

The match ups that matter*

[verbal tangle]

^

[lavish quest]

Warrior is good at farming half afk melee cleaves at 1300 yes

[deep epoch]

What comp are you running ?

[rancid granite]

doomers; ragers, x and y excuses for losing "if i lose the game and character is trash and this isn't fair"

[verbal tangle]

Like you can shit on warlocks all day, but the moment some scalie fuck walks in you grab the Remington and reconsider life choices

[lavish quest]

😂

[plush cairn]

50cal power

[plush cairn]

btw

[verbal tangle]

Bro is quick scoping in melee lmao

[bronze crystal]

can you still upload vod reviews

[plush cairn]

for blitz

do i just take battleground commander?

barbarian and death wish

nvm slaughterhouse/commander/deathwish

[copper fox]

Warrior is fine

Just play with a s tier class 🤓

[violet fossil]

it’s good into melee cleaves

the meta rn is mages

so

[copper fox]

Then you run into mages with dragon healers and it’s gg

Just blinking and flying everywhere

That’s why I’m playing with a hunter lol

[narrow compass]

This is what happens when you get assigned to drivin the short bus for 20 games. Was excited that the Elite Illusion was within reach.

[rancid granite]

double leap was legit in bg lol

[crystal harbor]

i'm hard stuck at 1793 atm cos i can't win more than 3 rounds a game

only after 1800

[verbal tangle]

1800 is GM/HW too, rip

[pure hornet]

True

I bet even frost mages are not satisfied. They complain about some other classes too
Thinking they suck

Every man/class see the grass greaner.. on other side

Only i like my warry
Even tough gnomes have small dic

[narrow compass]

Too much toxicity in this game.

mostly from people who'd get a black eye if they showed the same toxicity in real life.

[pure hornet]

Nah
Lowest toxicity of any game
Lol has a quadrilion more

[narrow compass]

I dont play many other games.

[pure hornet]

The game is fine

[narrow compass]

Fortnite with my son...

Fallout 76

[pure hornet]

I play with miself
And wow

[narrow compass]

and Anno 1800

😄

[pure hornet]

Nice

[narrow compass]

Anno is highly addicting

[rancid granite]

i see more snowflakes these days than toxicity ngl lol

[pure hornet]

Throne and liberty releases tuesday
Well see how it is

Next gen mmo graphics

[visual plover]

eh a lot of mmos have tried

[rancid granite]

i get people who load into lobby, and before gates even open "whelp we can't win. there's no use. this is gonna suck. im on a losing streak. sigh. there's no point"

like, this is a mix itself of being toxic and being a snowflake

[visual plover]

agreed

[rancid granite]

and those people are weird as hell lmao

[narrow compass]

True.

[rancid granite]

or "someone called me bad so im gonna int and post about it" thats more toxic than calling someone bad

[pure hornet]

I get the other way around
All are positive
Maibe eu is more optimistic

[rancid granite]

i mean overall i think its chill and good, positive, fun people

but the others exist and will exist in any game ever

[pure hornet]

Yeah

[rancid granite]

cause people are people lol

[visual plover]

ive met some good ones since my friends quit

[pure hornet]

At least until 2100
Never passed that mark

[rancid granite]

yeah same =p

[pure hornet]

I think above 2400 pple get arrogant

[narrow compass]

same.

[visual plover]

highest i got was 1900

then i felt like i finished DF

[narrow compass]

I think @ 2400 they all stick to each other

[pure hornet]

I intend to get 2300 this year
Next year maibe 2400

[narrow compass]

2.2 is my goal but this all depends on finding a teqam

[pure hornet]

We could too
Just in my area its hard to buy a healer friend

[narrow compass]

i cant do solo shuffle anymore. the Q's drive me insane

[pure hornet]

I never shuffle
I only play 2’s

[visual plover]

ahhh

[pure hornet]

Suffle is crap

2’s and 3’s is the game

Specially 3’s

[narrow compass]

I enjoyed it last season bc I came back to the game and had NO ONE to play with...so I'd just spam solo shuffle till I got 2.1K

but now, theres so much more to do.

I really like Blitz, but I theres some things that im not understanding.

like why do I keep getting the same 2 maps 😄

and why do I get 2 pts for a win but -15 or more for a loss

[pure hornet]

You fkd ur mmr

Win more games
Or play better/improve

[narrow compass]

I mean, im not saying im perfect

but the teams generally get stomped.

1 warrior isn't turning the tide of an entire game when the rest of the team cant land a single kill

dont care if its a R1 war or a 2K war

[rancid granite]

it can be a lot of the time

[narrow compass]

Come on man

if the rest of the team cant land ONE kill

im not changing shit

[rancid granite]

focus on yourself not your team thats step 1

🙏

[narrow compass]

Trust me, I do.

[cloud meadow]

blitz mmr is fucked, dont try to reason something else

wait on blizzard to fix it, if ever

[narrow compass]

I might swap to arms to start @ 0

[cloud meadow]

shuffle is also capped at 2.1k ive heard

[plush cairn]

i feel like im hardstuck at 1750mmr in all modes

is blitz best way to hit 1.8

[cloud meadow]

yeah by far

[narrow compass]

I feel like shuffle is

more pts per 6-0

you get like 3-4 6-0's and you're skyrocketed.

even a few 5-1's

[plush cairn]

i usually do 3-3

i pump big numbers, get ppl panic'ing and kiting

but since im melee hard to get control on heal sometimes

[crystal harbor]

just spend my game hitting who i can

[cloud meadow]

shuffle just feels like fucking shit no matter what i do

[crystal harbor]

constant chains of ice or whatever ranged snare/root

[cloud meadow]

i get control-lords that enforce 3-3s every 2nd match

[plush cairn]

i play opportunistically tbh

[crystal harbor]

yup

[cloud meadow]

by just being so much fuckign worse than everybody else in the lobby

[plush cairn]

spam go 3mil dps on start

yolo 5stack dw

[cloud meadow]

so i wait 20 minutes in queue just to not move an inch off my mmr

[plush cairn]

then see someone kiting

leap/charge, get him to los heal

[crystal harbor]

literally gone 3-3 in my last, idk, 8 games?

which is like 2-3 hours for.. honor/valor stones

[cloud meadow]

seriously it only takes 1 bad healer or dps to make the entire match meaningless

[plush cairn]

1700 2s feels a lot better than 1700 solo shuffle

imo

and skill gap is different usually

[crystal harbor]

that's pretty much it. always 3-3 with someone on 0-1

0 to 1 that is

finding current pvp more frustrating/less fun than most times but idk if its just 'cos i've not really pvp'd -that- much since SL

though i also just really hate fury in pvp but struggling to justify arms in shuffle lol

[plush cairn]

why blizz nerfs warrior

when its impossible to play against rogues

and mages

they have utility? give us more big dam

also dev+pres lizards are disgusting

running like f1 cars, ignoring all roots and shit

👍 nah its fine, nerf warrior

[soft lava]

Hunters, rogues, mages... yes we fucked, but has it not always been like this?

[crystal harbor]

damage profile init

but yeah is a bit lame

[plush cairn]

evoker is literally one of those classes that can run out from spear root

like wtf blizzard?

[cloud meadow]

they nerfed sub too

evoker is unexcusable in pvp right now

devoker specifically

[iron fractal]

The weapon you get from 2500 qonquest earned, is that one time only on one character, or can other characters get it too?

[cloud meadow]

cleave dps that actually cleaves the entire enemy team at any point inside the arena averaging 1 mill dps with permanent uptime and a 95% unbreakable perma slow on every melee dops

[cloud meadow]

all characters

[plush cairn]

so basically go cancer comp

get to 2k+ and then tell i have 2k experience

[cloud meadow]

a lot of people straight up just buy glad boost

and title their LFG as glad exp for 10 years onwards

but honestly, idk how you can lose playing devoker cleave comps right now

[plush cairn]

i played against dev+preservation was nasty

[cloud meadow]

im sure some very good rogue/mage players can set them up but besides that ive no clue

[crystal harbor]

somehow went 5-1 in a pres/dev/ww/sp lobby we move

1800 done bb

[keen sinew]

Guys, what's the good source for talent builds? I used to check the best players on armory, but nowadays, I see 6-10 talent loadouts and I have no idea which one the players use the most.

[crystal harbor]

i tend to murlok io

ft pref

[pure hornet]

Drustvar is good

[keen sinew]

Thank you, I'll take a look at it. I'm hard stuck on 1.4 in shuffle. I have no idea why I'm so bad 😄 I'm 1.9 on my dpriest, but warrior is a different story 😄

[soft lava]

here, just search for solo bg build or arena builds in search bar on disc.. and use or change a build u like...

Or just use drustvar..
I don't like murlok that much

[narrow compass]

Are they Lewis Hamilton levels of OP? Or Max Verstappen?

[plush cairn]

found a comparison in disc

pretty good one

[iron fractal]

How come Endurance training is used over Wild strikes?

[plush cairn]

just like that

gets out of my spear root

idk how

but they do

[verbal tangle]

You like incoming CC reduction?

[iron fractal]

Does 10% shave anything off on 4-6 seconds cc?

[plush cairn]

stacks with orc racial

so pretty good

umm also

why use radiant power over deeps?

deeps seems to do 7-10% overall

per arena

[tribal wedge]

radiant is BIS for arms so

[verbal tangle]

Burst

[deep epoch]

Is there a good warrior pvp written guide on talent builds? I’ve got 2-3 builds that I run, with either Odyns fury and then a bursty champions spear one but I’ve not checked any guides so I wanna see if I’m missing anything important. I’m only 1300 in 2’s and 1950 rbg/solo shuffle so if I get a duo partner or 3’a teams i want to run the right specs for that.

[iron fractal]

Improved Bloodthirst or Fresh Meat?

[keen sinew]

Yeah, basically I dealt with the same and none of the top players use Odyn's or Spear in Shuffle
(16 of 50 use Odyn's, 4 use Spear)

[cloud meadow]

whats the general consensus beetween these 2 in pvp?

i see FE chosen for guides but i cant see it logically being better

[iron fractal]

Having issues choosing between the two myself.

[plush cairn]

this good for bg's?

[boreal veldt]

if youre gonna go DW that looks good with barb as your flex talent

[boreal veldt]

just don't be using Battle Shout and overriding another warrior running the shout talent

or imma come find you

[plush cairn]

it overrides it?

i thought it was just a bonus

i was constantly spamming bs

xD

[plush cairn]

ahh u mean

without the talent

[rancid granite]

double heroic leap op in bg

[plush cairn]

yeah

pala was tryina outrun me for orb

doubled leaped and storm bolted on his ass whilst grabbing the orb

felt like max payne for a second

[iron fractal]

So is frenzied rage or powerful enrage recommended?

[cloud meadow]

ran some training and the 15% additional seems pitiful

rampage goes from 1.7m to 1.8m for example

while 15% flat haste when you dont even invest in any is inasne

[iron fractal]

15% haste and 10% speed seems quite good boost.

[cloud meadow]

movement speed also insane for fury while 1 extra second on enrage is practically uselesss with our uptime

[cloud meadow]

if it was increased 15% it wouldve been broken, added 15% is like nothing

[iron fractal]

So what do you say, Frenzied or Powerful?

[cloud meadow]

frenzied 100%

[iron fractal]

Would you say Improved bloodthrist or Fresh meat?

Been trying to sim it but.. almost zeor difference.

[cloud meadow]

because it is almost 0 difference, i barely tap bloodthirst for damage purposes

so id say fresh meat just because anything else is better than using bt for damage

[iron fractal]

Bloodcraze can give it a bit of damage boost.

But the increased enrage does help.

[cloud meadow]

bt for damage is barely worth it with full bloodcraze stacks and even then you barely tap it

i mean

both are really weak talents either way

[iron fractal]

Think I'll go for fresh meat for the increased enrage.

[cosmic minnow]

is the pinned fury gear guide up to date? should i still craft weapon or use the conq quest ?

[fleet escarp]

What are you supposed to do against Rogue/Mage in 2s

[cloud meadow]

win?

double dps is not viable, rogue/mage are just the least bad

but as a warrior it will be frustrating the whole fight

[copper fox]

@cloud meadow whats your char name? Giving very specific poor advice I’m wondering where you sit rating wise

[fleet escarp]

I have him ignored from PoE disc for pretty similar reasons lol

[copper fox]

Makes sense

[cloud meadow]

whats the point of ignoring me if you're just going to have no willpower and open each message anyways

[cloud meadow]

are you defending double dps?

[fleet escarp]

But I cant figure out how to connect long enough for a kill against RM. Obviously doing something werong but unsure what

[plush cairn]

blitz ppl so dumb

im balding

[fallen solar]

I got 7% haste and 20% mastery on arms. That haste too low?

I switch from fury and arms

[keen quartz]

id bump the haste up for sure, anything lower than 10 feels sluggish to me

[fallen solar]

I just checked murkoki or whatever and it seems to be balanced

[tribal wedge]

i have 20% it feels great

[keen quartz]

20% haste or mastery?

[tribal wedge]

haste

[plush cairn]

so after a loss streak i get put into an even shittier group than before

and lower mmr than me

for blitz

great

[fallen solar]

You’re not hitting as hard though right?

Just hitting more frequently and dots ticking faster?

[tribal wedge]

And more BS

But i hit hard enough

Yesterday i hit an 1.2 millions exécute no Crit ( probably with berserk on) as Slater, and some 2.8 millions Crit as Colossus

[plush cairn]

the bigger the loss streak in blitz the more braindead team i get

wtf is this shit

[tribal wedge]

With demolish*

[tribal wedge]

Seems consistent

[plush cairn]

it literally is

and u lose more and more mmr because you get placed against lower dudes

[vapid tartan]

Keep qing brother stay strong

[plush cairn]

7 loss streak so far

fun

im wondering if 8% haste is actually too low for fury

[vapid tartan]

Yea is cooked gotta go on 3-4 game winstreak to get it back

[plush cairn]

was getting matched against 2100s before at 1.7

was fun

1.4 its either u go afk or blast depending on situation lol

so i win a fucking game 1500 to 0 and i get no rating

lol

[stark agate]

arms

[plush cairn]

might try prot for blitz

thunder root seems too op lol

[lavish quest]

Rogue mage is the exception to double dps bad rule

[chilly vessel]

for fury pvp do i just go dual forged gladiator's greataxe?

[hybrid socket]

Seems like arms is starting to trend up a bit?

[cloud meadow]

where you seeing that? just curious

[plush cairn]

im thinking of race swapping into gnome or orc

[hybrid socket]

Magnusz is going arms now and with the nerfs I'm just seeing a lot of arms in BG's

totally speculative

[hot solstice]

nightmare lobby

[cloud meadow]

that is very meta dependant and its more bad than good usually

[lavish quest]

By what metric?

[cloud meadow]

winrate

[lavish quest]

It pretty much always can go high rating, seems good to me 🤷

Are you judging by the 1600 rogue mages who can't play it right?

[cloud meadow]

using this logic, there has never been a bad dps in pvp since classic

[cloud meadow]

im prety confident even the best mage/rogue players rn would tell you this comp is not doing great lol

i wouldnt say its trash though

but any competent duo should be able to resist your gimmicks, maybe things will change once everybody has gear

[violet fossil]

rogue/mage usually does well in 2s

especially in the later seasons

[cloud meadow]

sure, and rn it doesnt, not even a hot take so idk whats up

[rancid granite]

you guys talkin average pvp or the r1 nerds

two different games

[violet fossil]

just in general

[cloud meadow]

both i guess, i dont think any similarly skilled 2s comp losses to rogue/mage rn

[violet fossil]

it’s usual tho

it’s usually like that in s1

early seasons w/e

then later rogue/mage get stronger

[cloud meadow]

personally id kinda want to see some viable dps only pvp queue that is not just ending on your opener

not just rogue/mage

i remember watching so much feral double dps back in bfa shit was so entertaining

[violet fossil]

I see why though

a lot of hunters up top

Lol magnus at #1

[plush cairn]

Orc/gnome or human?

[violet fossil]

yes

[plush cairn]

Human seems good for the stat increase + wts racial

But not sure if what would benefit me more, removing roots every 1min or that

[cloud meadow]

i think gnome racial is not even a subject of optimization

you kind of cant maintain your sanity without it

[rancid granite]

human 4 lyfe

will to survive has its use, not to mention stat boost

[copper fox]

The true warrior (space) goat tbh

[plush cairn]

ima go gnome seems op, though i could go double dps trink as human for even bigger burst

shadowmeld coul also have a good use for cancelling out globals

and bg'bg's

[rancid granite]

follow your heart guy

pick which race looks the coolest

[copper fox]

^ tbh

Idk dude I’m a male troll

Seems fine

lol

[cloud meadow]

look into dark iron dwarves you get a free self-imlpode button against warlocks

[plush cairn]

id go human since all mogs look good

im mag orc rn and i feel like im at a disadvantage really

[lavish quest]

So DPS who can just also heal? Only way to have a viable double DPS that last longer than a minute or two. Is the way rogue mage does it, or the DPS just act as healers. (But in this case running away and healing cause their healing can't face tank)

[rancid granite]

humans and orcs exist in top 50

not only gnome

[lavish quest]

Mag orc ain't great. Normal orc, pretty good

[plush cairn]

so its either human or orc

human can go double dps trink

[copper fox]

Male troll… ama

[lavish quest]

Technically but even when I was human I used normal trinket tbh.

[lavish quest]

Why?

[rancid granite]

i just learned of the double use of the human racial a few days ago lol

it being up 30 seconds before pvp trink saved me couple times already

[copper fox]

Because imagine losing to this

The pain

[rancid granite]

you definitely make a good bad guy type

like im the classic human warrior and you're the random encounter troll along my journey

very generic which isn't a bad thing

[cloud meadow]

i wonder if the mage matchup looks as cringe for everybody

i cant even confirm it because there is almost no footage of warrior vs mage arenas

[copper fox]

😂😂

[cosmic minnow]

just got alt to lvl 80. still worth it to craft weapon? or 2 free conq?

[deep epoch]

Embellishment on weapon is still very powerful

[rancid granite]

prob worth it to wait to craft it by now tho?

still bis but might be better off getting other pieces first

[short bolt]

is there a pvp guide for gear for arms war I could follow anywhere for crafted pieces and other stuff? sorry im kinda new to the whole pvp aspect

[gloomy raven]

I feel like im literally losing my mind this season with how much ranged CC and snares there are.

[urban skiff]

RIP F-Tier

playing with enh shammy is rough

[urban skiff]

heads up eu players, price will drop a bit more tomorrow and then it's going to shoot back up. Buy your sockets today

[final lynx]

Howdy all! Is there a good open world/bg talent build you recommend?

[pure hornet]

Gnome by far

[pure hornet]

I test with it too

Seems haste is better

Move speed bonus is high

[remote cosmos]

This looks like Thor on crack

[stark gulch]

I was able to use the ‘lord of war’ title on my fresh earthen. Stealth change to the title? It has never been account wide afaik

Maybe changed with warband

[fierce elm]

Warband change

[stark gulch]

Cool beans. Love that title. Got it on an alt though

[shy herald]

Is there any reason to use Slam or Whirlwind as an Arms warrior in PvP?

[fierce elm]

nope

[limber wagon]

no rage dump with slam ?

[formal creek]

Slam's damage is close to an unbuffed MS in PVP so if you got nothing to press it's definitely not as useless to press as it was imo

[fickle forge]

Nah that's fat cap

[fierce elm]

that is incredibly cap

do not press slam

If you have to press slam you are either incredibly unlucky or you suck at your rotation

[zinc tartan]

guys, fury war raged regeneration thing is shivable right?

cant remember the name

[tired tapir]

Why would they shoot up?

[urban skiff]

People farming honor this week with +50% gains. Next week same item will take 33% more work for the same honor.

I predict we'll see it go up to 8k end of next reset. Then it will stabilise and maybe drop again. When they uncap conq in many weeks it will shoot up like crazy until enough people start farming honor and undercutting each other

[tired tapir]

Ahh yea that makes sense

[fickle forge]

Idk what this means

[zinc tartan]

me neither

[fickle forge]

Do you mean it's affected by healing reductions?

[zinc tartan]

if whether it can be dispelled wit shiv

[dense herald]

Zercher didnt u say mountain thane fury will be op and u were always right on predictions and then it wasnt

[fickle forge]

No

[zinc tartan]

sjeezz

so where is shiv even for if it states dispell all enrage effects

[fickle forge]

It still dispels enrage, enraged regen is just not an enrage effect

[zinc tartan]

nahh thats so clowned upon

[fickle forge]

It's just PvE design bro

To dispel mobs getting those +100% dmg buffs or w/e

[zinc tartan]

ah ig

[urban skiff]

Thane is good. People complain they die and get kited but refuse to switch to the spec that fixes it. Killing hasn't been a problem for fury and still won't be a problem with slightly lower dmg

[river walrus]

I literally don't have slam on my keybinds, that's how useless it is

[urban skiff]

But also enh is the true thane and enh is in a good spot

[urban skiff]

You're free to be wrong. I don't have raging blow bound because slam hits harder

[formal creek]

Wasn’t advocating using slam but as arms I did have unlucky rows of no tactician procs and ms on cd so dumping rage feels still better than not for me

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[urban skiff]

I love you, please send more money

The kids are starving

[fickle forge]

I refuse

[urban skiff]

This is why nobody lets you play thane

[plush cairn]

decided to go gnome warrior

/llaulaugh

thanks autocorrect

[pure hornet]

What you mean..? I did not use slam since moses parted the red sea

Is slam still on use?

[urban skiff]

I'm being facetious

[pure hornet]

Good choice

Except for the small dic, gome is goated

[urban skiff]

Kt human is the best if you don't have vulpera/robognome unlocked

[pure hornet]

Kt human??

Dafq

[urban skiff]

Look good feel good

Very mindful
Very demure

[pure hornet]

Dunno
If you like fantasy is good
But escape artist is golden

Once you go gnome
You can never go home

[urban skiff]

Imagine gnome shaman

I want that

[fierce elm]

Gnome is for losers

if you play gnome I assume you are a fucking dweeb

[lavish quest]

You're just not gnome because they can't be paladins

[fierce elm]

GNOME PLAYERS SMELL LIKE MOUNTAIN DEW AND DAMP SOCKS

[buoyant chasm]

Gnome is so ficking ugly sadly

[rancid granite]

gnome players are 5'6 and below irl

[weary gull]

Any EU streamer warriors you guys can recommend?

[pure hornet]

Well
I think tauren is great for warr but picked gnome for utility

[plush cairn]

youll always go home cuz youll ffuck roots

ez clap

[cloud meadow]

besides being short, every inch of skin is covered in god tier plate mog

also they have the best shouts

[plush cairn]

/laugh after winning

[rancid granite]

i don't think gnomes can laugh

only /giggle

[random tangle]

Dark iron dwarf is the best race in the game

[cloud meadow]

fireblood is a scam but i like the elevator

[random tangle]

Mole machine getting buffed before warriors

[cloud meadow]

[elfin surge]

playing warrior makes me want to not play the game

[fickle forge]

This is it

Mud's DK arc is beginning

[random tangle]

Surely they buff warriors this week

[weary gull]

Warriors in general or Arms warrior?

[random tangle]

Arms warrior

The spec that should be pushed over fury

It’s at like a 48% winrate in NA shuffle it’s so bad

[idle falcon]

i just watched "i parry everything"