pvp

[river walrus]

how do you not pull your hair playing warrior in this lobby?

[limber relic]

just dont go mage

[cloud meadow]

try 2 mages and a lock friend

[river walrus]

I tried going dk and healers but could not move

And druid was upset telling me to go mage and kick poly

How do you kick mage if tou can't move?

[cloud meadow]

if you fight double lock in the MoP arena you can honestly just quit right at the start

trying to play some pvp and for no fucking reason you actually booted up dead by daylight

[limber relic]

oh it was dev/mage/dk?

thats aids

[magic bloom]

man 1600-1800 is a swamp i swear

just playing dodge the caster lobby at this point cuz I don't think playing into mage dev is winnable ngl

for shuffle

[boreal veldt]

the dev tech is so toxic atm it's not worth even beginning to go after one

unlimited hover

[magic bloom]

I think ive gone from 1750 down to 1650 at least 3 times now cuz I get just full caster lobbies and my only choice is to pillar

cuz I can't live the burst once ER is down and I dont have an IV of cooldown

just perma in dstance and slowed into the next game

[rigid iris]

🤓☝️play gnome and use ur charge ability

along with heroic leap

and rally to free from snares!

[cloud meadow]

is there any non doomer advice against frost mage?

[rigid iris]

ur prob using ur stuff bad

[radiant oasis]

Don't charge off your mount. Run up to them on your mount and hamstring

[rigid iris]

bladestorm, charge, leap, rally, intervene, not using hamstring

prob just bad usage 🤷

[cloud meadow]

no need for bullshit though

[cloud meadow]

ty

can they easily dispel hamstring? i always find them movement speed boosted

[rigid iris]

hamstring cant be dispelled

its not magic, it can get negated through similar movement freeing stuff like freedom, etc

[radiant oasis]

It sounds like you're trying to maintain 100% uptime and are frustrated you can't. It's not the case. You can't be on then 100%.

What's important is having all your mobility ready for when you burst so you have an impact.

[cloud meadow]

while ur correct, i dont find any more hope in playing for burst windows

because if i dont chase, they simply can keep their 6 teleport/knockbacks for when i do

maybe some cross cc miracle?

[radiant oasis]

There are things you can play around. Like that blink talent. I don't know if you know but a mage can blink back to their starting blink point for a few seconds after blinking

So sometimes you're not better off charging after them right away

[cloud meadow]

had no idea, thought they just have 100 blinks and ways to reduce their cd

[radiant oasis]

Yeah you'll want some sort of nameplate aura to track that

Quite important

[cloud meadow]

another thing is, when i dont chase them, they just start raining down frostballs/fireballs and upkeep like 550k dps on me

and it doesnt seem to be tied to any offensive cooldown, they just like that

[radiant oasis]

Sometimes Los is all you can do

No point holding w if you've got no way to connect for 12 seconds

Honestly you sound like you'd benefit a lot from watching your own gameplay. Try recording and learning

[cloud meadow]

true

ive been pvping on warr for like a day im sure ill naturally progress a lot till ill have to watch replays

my only real goal rn is to get 1600 and chill since i cant play that much

do you have any advice on locks?

spefically, is there ever a time where i wouldnt want to train them all game?

besides situations that would kill me ofc

[spice hornet]

u cant this auto counters u 100% unless they dc or unplug their keyboard

[radiant oasis]

Don't know. I haven't played this season yet. Don't miss kicks and don't kick unimportant casts

[lavish quest]

Better than the glad mount btw

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

Real

[rancid junco]

So, quick question. To get the Replica Grand Marshall set, do you still need to get 1800 Battleground Rating? Or does it need to be 2400 for the title?

And if you can get it at 1800, can you do it with solo BG's?

[rancid granite]

bg blitz 1800 works

[tribal wedge]

where do you buy it btw ?

[rancid granite]

it's in area 51 in tbc lol

the north eastern map

[tribal wedge]

thx

[rancid granite]

I'm like 2 wins from getting it myself :D

[rancid junco]

I won my first blitz, 192 rating... long way to go.

But I'm happy.

[restive fulcrum]

im having such a hard time surviving as Fury warrior ...

[dreamy pine]

https://i.imgur.com/egkltSl.png

anyone know any points to swap around in the talent build for shuffle? i only swap shattering for rumbling earth cant think of a way to have them both

[spice hornet]

Is this a mountain thane build?

Oh you’re arms

[dreamy pine]

yes sorry i am arms

[jovial meteor]

is the 4 piece worth it

for fury

[spice hornet]

I don’t think so

[stark gulch]

I’m not sure they could have thought up a more boring set bonus. Like wat

[violet fossil]

it’s cause it’s s1

[copper fox]

I love being kited 24/7

[stark gulch]

Good point

[restive cobalt]

2nd highest ranking warrior in Rbg blitz lez gooo

[plush cairn]

fury

worth enchanting 2x green 2handers

with r3 radiant?

or wait for reset and slap that on purple

[vital igloo]

Enchanted poop is expensive but still poop

[plush cairn]

yeah checked dam done

only proced once or twice

not worth

[orchid badge]

life as a protwarr continues to be good

[brisk swallow]

Is there much point of going above 1950 for rewards?

[fierce elm]

tabard, elite weapons, fun

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-gif-25644765

[plush cairn]

did i fix my stats for fury?

someone told me yday i needed 20% haste as max

[tribal wedge]

some go full mast

some go with a bit of haste

and i'm pretty sure full haste is not bad either

just dont crit

and play the way you pref

[elfin sinew]

how do you not pull your hair when playing a warrior in shuffle these days in general? this class is an oversight, unwanted child. Everyone shits on us

im not handicapped but fuck me, I'm not getting 1600 this expansion as warrior

you have to be a god gamer to rank up as war

tried fury, arms, highest I got was 1570 and then started dropping, I get 30 points for 4 win game, lose 40-50 for any lost game

[tribal wedge]

no flame or anything but if you can't get ahead of 1600, the class you play isn't the problem

[elfin sinew]

Look, I give you an example from last game

3 rounds against the lock teleporting up and down stairs, noone except me tries to chase him, he free casts and wins every round.

easy

your team doesnt give a fuck then you dont win

[orchid valve]

Hey can you show what talents you are running? And preferred comps? (And are other people generally open to you playing prot? 😮 ) basically any advice from build to playable would be welcome ^^ )

[elfin sinew]

And yes, I agree, war is difficult. Should have chosen dk lol

last season I was 2000+ ss

as war

[echo bone]

movement speed

[fleet lake]

as fury, how often are you going defense stance in 3s?2

[echo bone]

if you get focused

[orchid badge]

only blitz 🙂

took talents from some guy on protwarr drustvar

[orchid valve]

Oh only blitz I see. I was thinking about trying to climb with it haha

[plush cairn]

worth sacrificing pvp ilvl for pve tier?

3x hero tier + 1champ tier

[tribal wedge]

if teams doesnt give a fuck, why you are not winning against them so?

[plush cairn]

i love how i get honor lvl4-15 dudes in my team

and enemy team honor lvl500-900

lol

thanks blizzard

[fierce elm]

Last season was also giga inflated

I reckon about 1600 is fair

[limber relic]

Im just a washed up zugzug warrior main 🥲

[limber relic]

Im 10 haste, 40 mastery, 25 vers. Been playing around a little with frenzied regen (15% haste over the 15% dmg increase) and i think its viable into high uptime classes

[cinder thorn]

it feels not worth playing for me too, when I win I gain 1-10 rating, when I lose I lose 30

[fierce elm]

t h en d o n t

or try to fix your mmr

[plush cairn]

well that was some big rating gainz

[cloud meadow]

is pvp normally this dead?

[urban skiff]

M8, you can't count number of open groups to determine health of pvp

[cloud meadow]

is LFG normally this dead?

[urban skiff]

Again, not how it works.

Empty lfg is a reflection of everyone who is looking for a group having found one.

[cloud meadow]

im asking a v simple question and youre taking an ego hit bc im calling it dead

does this mean pvp is more populated than m+?

back when i was pvping in SL the list was bottomless

[thick reef]

No it’s not normally that dead

Not as popular as it was back in SL

because we got solo shuffle now and the other rated solo bg que

[cloud meadow]

see that makes more sense

as a side note

does shattering throw work on bubble?

or what does it work on notably besides ice bolck

[thick reef]

It does indeed work on bubble

[cloud meadow]

oh thats fucking huge

[cloud meadow]

hunter turtle ???

[plush cairn]

took me 4 games to go from 950 to 1.5

huge

[thick reef]

Nahhh

[cloud meadow]

oke, thanks

[plush cairn]

so ill be buying chest+legs this week for conquest

next week ring+hands?

or just buy hands and save the rest for shoulders

[thick reef]

I followed this

Did me wonders

[fierce elm]

I mean, no, what time is it on your server rn

Because that dictates a lot

[plush cairn]

man ive pvped too much today

almost 20k honor gained

thats quite a bit of bloodstones

[fierce elm]

bruh

[plush cairn]

i need em for sockets anyways

[cloud meadow]

like 3pm

but this is region wide not server wide

[plush cairn]

oh shit

i can actually buy 3 sockets

5k honor each

[fierce elm]

3pm on a sunday

makes sense that LFG is dead tbh

[pure hornet]

Guys why does magnus has one crit gem? For cursed mastery enchant?

[fierce elm]

who knows

probs not for cursed mastery

[fickle forge]

Guys what energy drink should I be drinking to have fun in PvP?

[fierce elm]

maybe for cursed mastery

[rancid granite]

is it the embel you need diff gem colors

[fierce elm]

who knows

is he running the meta gem

He is not running the embellish for that

[pure hornet]

I noticed with cursed mastery when i hut recklesness my crit is still 0 so maibe thats why

[fierce elm]

But he might be running one meta gem that gives move speed

[rancid granite]

yeah that one I think I meant

[pure hornet]

He has meta gem too

[fierce elm]

He doesnt run that one

who knows

[rancid granite]

tldr he's highly skilled so he's experimenting with the 1%

[pure hornet]

No
My tought was that with cursed mastery you pop recklesness and you are still 0 crit chance
But with one crit gem when you pop reck , you actually get 20% crit chance

[fickle forge]

What

[pure hornet]

You get zero crit if you pop recklesness with cursed mastery

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's a bug if that's the case

[pure hornet]

With a crit gem i think you are no longer considered negative crit chance

[fickle forge]

Reck and enchants have nothing that interacts

[pure hornet]

Then go practice pvp dummy with cursed mastery

See if you get pozitive crit with recklesness

I tested it

[fickle forge]

You do that lil' bro, I ain't about to play fury

[pure hornet]

One arm traitor

[plush cairn]

should i recraft this into vers/haste?

[pure hornet]

Ofc

Dafq

[cloud meadow]

does odyn's fury also remove roots?

[pure hornet]

Crit waste

[plush cairn]

i mainly crafted it for prot warr pve ilvl

but prot still like versa/haste

so ill just convert it into vers

[pure hornet]

Vers haste for prot

[tribal wedge]

no, but the talent who make it proc avatar does

[cloud meadow]

bro thats so huge

but at the same time

idk if these cooldowns are worth using to unroot yourself

[tribal wedge]

if you are already in avatar mod

it don't break root btw

[cloud meadow]

ofc

honestly, roots are not the biggest problem i've had on warr

but the 99% slow that comes after those

[plush cairn]

since i fucked up on embellishements

think its a good idea to put 1 on neck?

[thick reef]

just black coffee

[pure hornet]

Blood of virgins so i got pretty thirsty last decade

[plush cairn]

good way to get bloody tokens?

did the 1k quest

and 1x world quest

prolly killed like 200ppl in world pvp

but killing is too slow

can still get 600 more this week

[dreamy pine]

On a Sunday you can go for a shot of whiskey and then a 4loko

[plush cairn]

maybe i should swap out some greens

into more mastery and keep haste 15-17%?

[fierce elm]

World quests spawn pretty frequently

[plush cairn]

18% haste / 27% mastery + 26% versa

[fierce elm]

but yeah, killing people is probably your best bet

[plush cairn]

is what i can get

i got 22k honor atm

[plush cairn]

with the versa proc

should be 35% now

gonna recraft my ring into mastery/vers which will get me 9% crit / 17% haste / 29% mastery + 26%versa(34% buff)

[elder sequoia]

someone please explain to me how can i deal with a frost mage

this zertion guy

was shielding every 10 second for 30% of his hp

i was going insane

[cloud meadow]

of all the ways frost mage drains dry the fun out of playing warrior

the shield is your main concern?

be like me and stick to blitz until this goes live

[candid tusk]

ever played against devastation evo who knows its class?

Rucki postet a few days ago how op they are. Mages are much easier

[cloud meadow]

what do you need to know before pressing desintegrate every few seconds for constant 1 mill dps

the big difference is evokers dont occupy like a quarter of the caster matchups

[candid tusk]

True

[plush cairn]

i played against dev+frost

had an ez time

[candid tusk]

Hoover is op.

[plush cairn]

shatter throw + barbarian talent

[cloud meadow]

i need a talent

[plush cairn]

use barbarian

for double leap

and slow that fucker

[cloud meadow]

that removes the magic dmg from reflect but makes it reflect endlessly

and adds 2 seconds to its duration with each reflect

[plush cairn]

oh u get valorstones from shuffles too

thats why i got cap

didnt even notice

[cinder thorn]

do you get more points if you win against comps you are unlikely to win against?

for example I just won 4/6 and got 200 points the only thing I can think of is it had a mage and warlock and rogue in enemy teams which are all classes they can fuck me up usually

the difference of our rating was only <100 from highest player and the rest were same mmv as me

[fierce elm]

nope

it all comes down to MMR/CR

[cinder thorn]

ok thx

[orchid badge]

ive won like 10 blitz in a row 😄 protwarr

[plush cairn]

played against double lock and evoker heal

aflli + destro

warbringer + wrecking throw

helps a lot

and barbarian

they couldnt run away

piercing howl on their ass

[pure hornet]

How many fracture spark of omen we get per week?

[plush cairn]

0.5

[pure hornet]

I have one
Can i get another fron world q?

[plush cairn]

we have 2.5 rn

[pure hornet]

Oh ok

[orchid badge]

i think prot warr could be good in arena

[urban skiff]

Prot war is good everywhere

[orchid badge]

im rank 3 in blitz EU now

[deep epoch]

Interested to know this as well, similar comp situation for me and I went 5/6 and climbed 421 points

[trail hamlet]

love how blizzard is like "Dragon Charge? with the flag? Not allowed. Too broken"

Then let monks do it 6 times in a row

and teleport

[orchid badge]

true tbh

[rancid granite]

man i was looking forward to that too

i didnt know that 😭

[river walrus]

Idk man, I was 2100 arms warrior in DF and I am stuck at 1600 right now lol

[chilly pivot]

im never played retail only classic wotlk, and im 2050 arms now 😛

[fallow coral]

hello

is there any pvp guide for fury with the burst rotation?

im a returning player and im rusty

[rancid granite]

check bajheera on youtube

good guides in there

[rare ibex]

How does one get PVP tier gear if not boxes anymore?

[kind sentinel]

Catalyst and your 1600 token

[rare ibex]

Ah, so we have to burn catalyst charges on PVP gear? Seems kinda gross if you also PVE.

But I guess won't eventually matter.

[cosmic yarrow]

Best way to learn is check magnus vods on twitch and just look at every global he presses in openers. He has an add on that shows every button pressed in order.

Magnus also has a guide on YouTube.

[cinder thorn]

is there a way to include in a macro the hero spec you're using?

a condition

like known:Slayer or known:Slayer's Dominance

I think it worked a couple hours ago but its not working now

[steady python]

Hey, maybe Anyone can help - i bought the conquest Chest piece and made a set piece out of it, but now i have Veit/tempo as stats. Is this a bug?

*crit/tempo

[tribal wedge]

no, tier set have their own stat

you can't change it

[steady python]

Honest question (sorry im Back since ~5 weeks) do we want to trade the versatility? Or Just shit on the Tier set?

[tribal wedge]

arms or fury?

[steady python]

Fury

[tribal wedge]

fury you need the tier 2

[steady python]

So its better to not put it on Chest/head/legs i think, because of the higher stats?

[tribal wedge]

i have helmet/leg for me

it's ok to lose a bit of verse if you have the good other stat (mastery/haste)

[cinder urchin]

im wondering this rn. Is crit still kind of useless?? 20% hast 20% mastery sounds cool to me

[urban skiff]

crit gets worse the more you have of it

And when you pop recklessness you get +50% crit chance or something

[cinder urchin]

so i am not choosing the chest piece of the 1.6 token

[urban skiff]

So it's not that crit is useless, just that we're in a spot where it takes a lot of rating to double the rate of crits, compared to someone at base crit%

and crit damage being nerfed is just worse

[pure hornet]

I dont understand why cursed mastery makes crit from recklesness not activate

[clear vector]

is wearing a 606 tier piece worth it in pvp vs using a piece that scales up to 636? SO is losing all that str worth it?

[rancid granite]

shift hover or whatever to check the stats

your main stats are str/stam

you're gonna lose SO many stats :p

[cinder thorn]

bois, need advice

I was just vs mage lock hunter in solo and vs the mage/hunter I hugged pillar when they went for me

healer was with me

but they came around and scatter/trap him

what should I have done in that situation

they ended up bursting me behind pillar (my teammate was a lock who did just dotting and no cc)

should I have stayed near the healer until he comes out of cc or keep kiting around pillar

[clear vector]

yes but i was asking if the 10% damage on rampage might make up for it

but i assume the answer is no

[rancid granite]

naw not at all

[robust hearth]

warrior's worst nightmare to queue into https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707075102864572459/1286449341736812554/image.png?ex=66f13e90&is=66efed10&hm=d9c926da181aa735f3a82db0ce42bd74851f8883eec5e4cdbc297eba90bfad94&

but surely not a problem for @elfin surge he can take on 4 frostmages in a 1v4 right?

[elfin surge]

what the cringe

[stone sentinel]

guys are we a bit mad cause we crafter the weapon and we will get 2 next week ?

[fierce elm]

no

[stone sentinel]

its fiiine then

[rancid granite]

no reason to be mad for being able to use great sword for 2-3 weeks

[robust hearth]

np, right? u can take those mages on, right?

[stone sentinel]

its just that people that didnt have 2 more piece of gear

[cinder thorn]

Well people did it to get easy glad before other people get same gear and it's harder 😜

[fierce elm]

and are going to have to craft eventually anyways

[merry valley]

Our set bonus is not rly that strong + if you add the fact that is 50% nerfed in pvp no real reason equip a lesser ilvl piece

[gritty halo]

Are we saving our conq till next week or should we use the remainder to craft rings/neck this week?

[worthy fern]

@cinder thorn depends on what you had available, big brain play was to intervene the scatter and reflect the trap

But if they get it off you can try and cc them with fear and bolt or use a defensive

If you can successfully kite all their damage that is good too

And then make it back to healer

[stone sentinel]

do you guys enjoy blitz and u get matched up with lower mmr people and get 0 rating for winning ?

[fleet lake]

fury still better than arms?

[urban nacelle]

if you win often it puts you with higher

[worthy fern]

just had a prot war arms fury lobby

fury war stacks death wish to 5 every single round, and dies every game

ruush from mal ganis if you are in here i appreciate the easy 4-2

[spice hornet]

Both suck

[fleet lake]

fa sho fa sho

[urban skiff]

Take less damage and deal more damage. Every action you take should either further your goals or stop them from theirs. Ideally each of your actions accomplish both.

You'll want to take a step or two further back and recognize how you could have prevented from doing what they did. Perhaps intervene healer on scatter to eat the trap for him, perhaps land a big fear when they come around pillar.

[urban skiff]

this is why i play enh

[urban skiff]

just play DH, they're getting buffed

[lyric night]

fellas what do you guys do into disc priest and frost mage in 2s?

feels like im getting kited out so hard

[urban skiff]

people still play 2s?

[lyric night]

only have 1 other friend 😦

[urban skiff]

2s players with a healer are the ideal setup for blitz

I think it might literally kill of 2s

[lyric night]

do you just play with a pocket healer?

[urban skiff]

I don't, nobody is going to voluntarily queue with enh

But it's my plan when I'm going to push my war

[cinder thorn]

Thx tek, I used up my cool downs previously to put pressure on them I guess I should have saved some for def

[cinder thorn]

You and @worthy fern said about the scatter intervene and reflect

What is the best way of realising that the healer is scattered or about to be scattered because by the time they scatter its literally a global for them to be trapped

I have bigdebuffs, threat plates and battleground enemies

I can usually see the bigdebuffs on me and my enemies but I don't usually pay attention closely to my healers status

Is there some kind of add on alert you guys use to tell you that hunter used scatter so you can reflex intervene for example?

[urban skiff]

Check the enemy cooldowns, if scatter and trap are ready then it's coming shortly

If you're in a bg then idk, I want to say we can still track cooldowns in bgs to some extent but only short ones that you can expect to be ready whenever you're engaging the enemy.

[urban skiff]

sorry my warrior brothers from draenor. I can leave no witnesses

[tribal wedge]

I hate this bg

[urban skiff]

which one?

[tribal wedge]

Kotmogu

[fickle forge]

This bg

[fierce elm]

That bg

[urban skiff]

kotmogu is great

problem is when you have dead weight players who don't pick up balls

imagine winning every team fight and securing all objectives and still losing because people can't press the glowy button

I don't wish for easier battlegrounds. I wish for broader shoulder so that I might carry more objectives

[elfin surge]

lmao everyone is rerolling off warrior

its over

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-22891134

[tribal wedge]

Monday additional tuning waiting room

[stone sentinel]

Im about to aswell ngl

[rancid granite]

y

[stone sentinel]

Everything is pain and lets face it we can't burst down anymore while being destroyed by every single ranged in the game

[elfin surge]

Everything is pain

[stone sentinel]

If I didnt hate to play evoker that much....

[stone sentinel]

I need to stay strong

[rancid granite]

are they giving us more nerfs cause of MUD?

[worthy fern]

@cinder thorn if you know it’s off cd and you can see the hunter creeping towards healer you have a good idea, it’s hard to do though. If I see that I’m immediately swapping d stance and getting ready to peel

If you see a trap land and you immediately leap across the map behind a pillar that’s almost a full counter to their go

[urban skiff]

i love it

soon it's my time to shine

[urban skiff]

trade leap for trap is a good strategy

[urban skiff]

bro try out enh, you won't regret

[lavish quest]

But woyer s tier

[elfin surge]

what did i do man

[urban skiff]

how much does conq cap go up per week these days? It's impossible to google because of all the AI generated articles from DF

[tribal wedge]

550 per week no ?

[urban skiff]

No it's more

I want to say 600 but I'm 99% sure it's not 550

[rancid granite]

what didnt you do?

600

[cinder thorn]

But leap is 45s and trap is 25

And my problem is by then I would have used charge and leap to stay on the fuckers

[urban skiff]

Scatter shot is 30 sec and that means you're vulnerable for 15 seconds only

and it's only really when scattertrap lines up with offensive cds

If I were better at weakaura I'd make a riskmeter that shows how much I'm at risk based on their cooldowns and my defensives.

[fickle forge]

Real Chads Intervene the healer and soak the trap

[urban skiff]

real chads equip a shield when things get tough

In 8 days I'll have epic pvp gear in every slot but defensive trinket

neat

[fickle forge]

Dude I lowkey may be the only arms warr who has used shield block, it's actually pretty fat into shit like MM hunter

40% wall for 10 rage

[urban skiff]

You're not the only warrior, but after they nixxed the annie build I can't fit it on my bars anymore

[verbal tangle]

Not even with a gaming mouse?

[urban skiff]

My mouse has MB4 and MB5. Everything else is not reachable in the middle of battle

spent all my money on my wife's new pc

ok that's not true but I love my mouse to the point where I take it apart and replace parts instead of buying a new one.

[fickle forge]

I just bound it to my cancel aura macro, cause there'd be no situations they'd overlap in

[urban skiff]

I put cancelaura in the macros where I'd want it naturally

My only character with a dedicated cancelaura button is my druid

[fickle forge]

You need a separate button for cancelaura buffs though

[urban skiff]

Nah

I always stop at 1800 rating, no matter how easy it is

[fickle forge]

Unless you're trynna macro cancelaura BoP into Slam or some shit

[urban skiff]

Ain't nobody spellstealing anything useful there

[fickle forge]

Aight fair man

[urban skiff]

I actually macro cancelaura BoP into taunt

[fickle forge]

I got cancelaura for BoP, freedom, sweeping and holy ward on a button

[urban skiff]

and i use taunt to put/keep rogues in combat because it's off the GCD

[fickle forge]

I have taunt macro'd to MS

Don't wanna dedicate a button to that

I just use HT

[pale dew]

Hi, probably a repeated question. Is the colossus specialization viable for arenas? Or should I choose another option?

[lavish quest]

Does block even work on ranged phys? Not sure it does

[urban skiff]

warrior is in an incredibly good spot right now. Everything is viable.

Something is jus tmore viable

[elder island]

We stacking haste or mastery as arms atm? It's all over the place on murloc

[pale dew]

Acording to Bajheera crit and haste

I feel like I often have to save my stunt for demolish instead of using it on the healer.

Maybe it's because I still need to improve my rotation.

[elfin surge]

lmao the spec (the class) is dogshit nothing feels good

[elder island]

😥

I don't want to play fury

[elfin surge]

fury isnt even that good anymore

it fell off hard

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/wambulance-burn-modern-family-lily-gif-5514584

@elfin surge

[rancid granite]

then dont and play arms; just follow a murlok.io build really, which is mostly haste.. cant go wrong

[worthy fern]

@cinder thorn there are mulitiple ways to deal with it none of them easy that’s why it a competitive game

[lavish quest]

Play caster or uninstall

[pale dew]

Are you guys using skull splitter?

[stone sentinel]

@elfin surge strongest melee class to go 2k1 in shuffle/blitz?

( current state of war I feel worthless)

[rancid granite]

thats a you issue not the class

[elfin surge]

rogue

[stone sentinel]

Spec ?

[stone sentinel]

Idk man if I had 4 charge with 10 sec cd I would probably agree with u

[stone sentinel]

Can I assa ?

[elfin surge]

yea

[stone sentinel]

On my way to try some then ty

[rancid granite]

idk if you cant do it with S/A+/A tier spec on such a simple class what else is there to do

[stone sentinel]

Well, what Im doing right now, try something else

[rancid granite]

i mean maybe another class/playstyle will resonate with you more and in turn be better for you

thats still a you issue 😛

[stone sentinel]

I loooove war

[urban skiff]

I really regret not cleaning these out at 200k ealier this week

[fickle forge]

It does

[urban skiff]

could have bought 4, used one and sold the rest now for free access to weapon enchant

otoh radiant authority is down to 25k a pop so at this point hardly worth crafting

[rancid granite]

i actually do warr and rogue; assa rogue is fun and simple too comparable to warr lol

[fickle forge]

Do UDK and collect free 4k

[stone sentinel]

Perfect maybe I will avoid running in the middle of the map waiting for charge or leap

[stone sentinel]

Deathstalker or fate bound? Seem like both are used whats the benefit between them

[urban skiff]

if you love war you'll love prot and enh

prot is literally war but you turn everybody into a joke for hitting you or shoot people off ledges

[rancid granite]

deathstalker 100%

[urban skiff]

Using dragon charge on the ashran bridge is so fucking peak prot

[rancid granite]

idk the differences that much but deathstalker lol

[stone sentinel]

Lets go

[stone sentinel]

Is prot actually viable on shuffle or blitz ?

[urban skiff]

in blitz, super yess

but you have to work for it

[stone sentinel]

Shuffle no ?

[urban skiff]

in shuffle it depends on you, but slamming mages for 1m shield slams without a cooldown is fuuuuuun

and just having demolish and never using it means they will litereally always hold a blink to get away from you

and with shield charge that means you can always catch a mage

[stone sentinel]

Hmmmm noted

[urban skiff]

but again, don't invest heavily into it until you know it's for you. I'm just playing around in honor gear still

[worthy fern]

2.1 is like r1 range or close rn

[pale dew]

So for a casual player whose objective is to get 1.9-2.0 CR is it viable to use arms warrior? Would it be easier if I use fury spec?

[worthy fern]

Rerolling isn’t going to make it happen for at least a while

[stone sentinel]

Im aware of that its more about the long term I feel worthless in shuffle when there is 3 ranged I throw hammer at heal fear it from time to time but I feel like I cant take out ranged while they take me down as fuck, if I play around pillar in fucked if I dont im free the burst feel underwhelming most of the time disc and evoker hold me way too easily

[worldly comet]

Any recommended guides for warrior PVP that are not outdated? trying to decide the spec first

[urban skiff]

whaaaat is this damage on ww and feral

[urban skiff]

bajheera puts out new guides twice a day

[candid tusk]

Does anyone have a cheat sheet with the biggest cds of each class? I have difficulties to know when to react to which cooldowns

[urban skiff]

enh shaman is wolves. Just pop literally every defensive when you see a dog

[candid tusk]

ye i learned that the hard way

[urban skiff]

No but seriously, Feral spirit is a non-cooldown. It may be 1.5 min cooldown but it's usually less than 30 seconds

[rancid granite]

damn i need one of these too

[candid tusk]

normally i pop fear + PH + Leap if i see the chance to survive

Or disarm to at least fuck up his stormstrike

[urban skiff]

I don't usually worry about getting disarmed

on my shaman

every disarm is an opportunity to heal or throw totems or refresh slows

[candid tusk]

ye right

#nerf enhance back to D class

[worldly comet]

Thanks I will check his channel

[candid tusk]

i can also recommend magnet, he has a good paper

[urban skiff]

impossible to nerf shaman without putting it so low it goes back on top

[lavish quest]

You'll learn what you need to react to in time as you lose to CDs

Or frost mages when you see them in the waiting room

[urban skiff]

Find the 10 most popular specs and watch their pvp guides, just skip to the section about burst

Doing this even just for top 5 or top 3 will help a lot

[candid tusk]

it feels to me often impossible to understand what just happened, if i drop in a few secs. dead and 2 dps are railling my a**

[worthy fern]

@candid tusk the big ones to pay attention to right now are true shot and icy veins I guess

With mm and frost mage

[candid tusk]

thanks! i struggle most of the time because of these two

[worthy fern]

True shot pops you cc the fuck out of the mm til it’s over

Disarm bolt etc

[lavish quest]

Frost mage just alt f4 to avoid his dmg

[candid tusk]

i heard blizzard even rewards this with extra rating right?

[lavish quest]

If you reroll mage, yes

[candid tusk]

sounds fair

[chilly pivot]

Did u guys find out the best comps to get 2k+ in 3s as warr/dpriest + who

[fickle forge]

No

[urban skiff]

TURBO

[fickle forge]

Likely TSG or WMP

[tough umbra]

Do hero talents make a difference in PVP? Is thane viable or is it all just Reckstorm?

[rancid granite]

i think its all technically viable but no one uses it

slayer is just better all around atm

but viable sure

[urban skiff]

Thane is fun and tanky

Everything is viable for warrior. Both exciting and boring answer

Question is always what your playstyle is best at extracting results with

[tough umbra]

What makes Slayer viable?

[worthy fern]

@fickle forge kfc stonks up

Mage nerfed

Turbo and mm kfc prob wars best comps

[fickle forge]

It does infinitely more damage

[fickle forge]

Maybe with MM hunter yeah

But Artji will never play MM

[pale dew]

Top 10 pvp players use mostly slayer acording to Murlok (solo shuffle)

[steady token]

Able to take more utility as slayer without sacrificing talents for thunderclap

[urban skiff]

Again, everything is viable. What makes slayer better? More free talent points and interrupts during bladestorm are big deals

[pale dew]

Demolish feel so good, when colossal migth stacks at 10

[fickle forge]

Slayer is inifintely better than thane though

Nobody picks thane, it ain't it

Same reason nobody picks colossus on arms

Slayer is just tuned way higher than the prot paths

[worthy fern]

Slayer pumps on both specs

Colossus and thane are ass

You get all kinds of free damage from slayer

[fleet escarp]

Is sudden death really not used in pvp?

[pure hornet]

What you guyz think we should get tommorow
Rings or chest shoulders,

[urban skiff]

Where do you see it's not used?

[fleet escarp]

In the pins, the fury build didnt have it when I imported

[urban skiff]

almost all successful players pick up sudden death for shuffle

Hey guys, is HMT sleeper stronk racial?

[fleet escarp]

what is that site youre looking at

[urban skiff]

murlok.io

[fleet escarp]

ty

[urban skiff]

I recommend looking at individual players when choosing builds

if you try to do an average of everybody you'll lose nuance

[fleet escarp]

sure makes sense

[dark topaz]

Juicy

[night socket]

hi guys, last time I played wow was classic. I thought back then i was playing warrior so what could have changed so much. I thought I could hop on the retail train and play warrior quite well in bgs.
Reality is I am so darn useless in BGs. Anyone here could give me an advise on some basic rules for warrior gameplay ?
if I charge in at the beginning into a stack of 5 people, I am so useless. I do no dmg. You cant even see anything on their health bar. If I manage to isolate anyone its even so hard to kill them. If we ( lets say 3 melees) managed to isolate a healer. We cant kill him. No way.
is this how retail is ?
Thats weird. In classic the healer would die instantly for making such a mistake.
In teamfights They all have big shields and heals and I am stunned/disoriented and what else all the time .. In classic you could get away with a free action potion but here there is nothing like that anymore right ? What are warriors suppost to do when every class has like 5 hard CC spells lol

[urban skiff]

literally no class can run into a group of 5 people and function alone. It's not happening.

[night socket]

Yea of course thats not what I mean. My teammates are hopefully following me. I was just talking about the scenario at the start of a battleground

or when I die and come back to the fight. I will have to charge in .. but then I feel so useless. Getting hard CCed 24/7 with stuns and disorientations ... and frost mages are pain still

[urban skiff]

When clueless, stop leading the charge and start following the flow

Adjusting from classic to retail is going to take a while. The flow is very different. Simultaneously very fast paced and slow as fuck

small mistakes are almost instantly capitalized on and set you on the path to a loss that you cannot prevetn

how ya'll doing for sockets so far?

[night socket]

whats still confusing me is the items people use. Relating to drustvar I dont really see Blood token gear so much. Why not ? Couldnt u at least buy 3-4 pieces with the current season max ? people there still have green parts

weapons I can see the reason since you will get bis next week but set parts ? idk dont understand yet ..

[urban skiff]

What does the pin say?

[fierce elm]

its not even bis thats the best part

The gearing is wildly confusing, but yes, spend bloody tokens on pieces

You dont want 4 piece, 2 piece is decent, 4 piece sucks

BiS weapon is the one we craft

[urban skiff]

turn spare pieces into tier pieces via catalyst -> free up conquest to get ahead on crafting

[tawny sandal]

Hey guys any build for 2s after the Odyns nerf?

[urban skiff]

why would you not still play Odyn's fury???

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/2v2

[pure hornet]

Max

How you got 2 uniques??

[elfin sinew]

Two in the neck

Conquest neck

[fleet escarp]

What do you mean by this? Does catalyst put them at the same ilvl?

[urban skiff]

3 ilvls under conquest. Don't go outside the cookie cutter unless you know what you're doing

[urban skiff]

Huh?

[fleet escarp]

cookie cutter being in pins?

[urban skiff]

Idk what the "thing" to do right now is. I'm pimping my shaman until they're done messing with warrior, then i purchase a full kit and push

[fleet escarp]

I had already picked up bloody token gloves for pve ilvl before deciding to try pvp on warrior. So kind of ruined that part, crafted belt instead. Hopefully doesnt hurt too much

[urban skiff]

Token glove is fine

[chilly pivot]

what u guys do against warlocks in 3s

[verbal tangle]

Blow their brains out

[rancid granite]

crack their skulls

https://tenor.com/view/gato-enojado-insano-waza-gif-27541362

give em one of these

[trail hamlet]

Agreed, but feel everyone has a response to it. All healers have an "oh shit" button. You can land a spear, big demo, into big MS, have the target be at 10% hp, and they get 50% dmg reduction + barrier for their entire HP pool

or someone life swaps them back to full

[night socket]

whats the bis weapon ? the crafted algari one with epic heraldry ?

[fierce elm]

Yes, with an embellishment

[strong grove]

Hello, anyone know how protection's spell block works on a pvp context? Trying to figure out what kind of spells are blockable but can't find it anywhere.

[night socket]

no idea tbh but I would say anything that is a projectile can be blocked. Things like disintegrate cant. But I have no idea that would just be my guess

[spice hornet]

warrior isnt fun to play at all in this meta

this is awful

[urban skiff]

Doomwinds mostly

ascendance if i feel spicy

[night socket]

its hard to counterplay when every call has like 5 hard CC spells. In BGs you are just perma stunned

[rancid granite]

thanks for letting everyone know

[cinder thorn]

does intercept work vs spells or just melee and physical ranged attacks?

for example can I intercept a fear or a sheep

or a chaos bolt

or just hunter shots/traps

[lucid walrus]

you used to be able to

it was beautiful

[cinder thorn]

but they rather not have clever warriors

[lucid walrus]

overwatch only worked for one spell iirc

[spice hornet]

yeah it was one

[lucid walrus]

it was pretty wild despite that

[rancid granite]

i didnt even know about the 2nd part of this skill lol

[spice hornet]

dont know why they removed it was one of the few skilled things a warrior could do

[rancid granite]

the magic reduc right on

[lucid walrus]

you can catch rogue, feral, monk, hunter, warrior, and ret kicks with intervene as well. very impactful

i might be forgetting another class with a physical one

[lavish quest]

🤦‍♂️

[urban skiff]

think i'm getting the hang of enhancement

[urban skiff]

remember in the old days when we could intervene blind?

or am I misremembering again?

[lucid walrus]

pretty sure you still can

i don’t know why that’d change

[urban skiff]

I want to say it's no longer a melee attack

but now I'm doubting whether it requires to be a melee attack to be able to intervene

we can't intervene scatter or it would happen way more often on scatter trap intervenes

[minor vector]

It counts as a ranged physical attack, you can vene it

Just have to hit that shamanistic dream vision to predict it

Idk about scatter though

[finite shale]

hi i have a quick question i met a fury in pvp who did 600k normal hits with slayer strike, mine never went this high. is there any explanation for this?

[urban skiff]

which pvp did you meet him in?

[finite shale]

2v2

is it ok to post his character page and mine?

is it normal for people to hit this high with slayer strike?

[fierce elm]

You can post his character if it's purely analyzing

you can also just whisper him

Do keep in mind that details can be extremely scuffed in damage numbers sometimes

[finite shale]

it is purely analyzing i jsut strive to get better, understand and climb

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/cagge
this is his char, admittely i dont have enchantments yet but i cant believe it would double dmg output..

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/antonidas/kabonk this is mine

[fierce elm]

I mean, assuming he got the correct procs from his enchant+trinket+whatever damage cooldowns during those hits

[finite shale]

( i am new i want to say)

[fierce elm]

that can make sense

he also has a lot more gear than you have

[finite shale]

yeah admittely i dont understand gearing yet, still getting hang of it

[fierce elm]

so he has 4 pieces of gear, one is weapon so that is huge and all enchants

[finite shale]

nor do i have gold to ask people to craft for me haha

but thats another matter

[fierce elm]

it definitely makes sense

[finite shale]

alright thx

[fierce elm]

average slayer strikes of 402k doesnt seem too wild

[finite shale]

yea those are mine, 120k below

[fierce elm]

yeah that makes sense tbh

[finite shale]

i also barely had proccs but it do be like that

[orchid badge]

when i win blitz im happy, when i lose i get sad

[vapid rover]

Big dam

[pure hornet]

Sherlock

[orchid badge]

yes and when i win, i feel like i played well, and when i lose i feel like my teammates played poorly

its a beautiful system

[night socket]

how did u guys spend the 9 epic heraldrys ? Craft for example a helm and make it a tier part via catalyst ? or better do that with a conquest item ?

[fierce elm]

The pin answers all of this

Instead of Symbiosis Embellishment we go for Ascension

thats about it

[night socket]

oh thanks alot !!

is the crafted weapon really worth it ? I mean I will get a good weapon next week for free. Wouldnt it be better to spend the conquest tokens into other parts ?

or is the difference in dmg so good ?

[fierce elm]

The weapon is going to be our BiS eventually

and they are going to open up conquest soon either way most likely

[night socket]

okay yea

[fierce elm]

I would personally craft the weapon, so I did so

[urban skiff]

cannot turn crafted items into tier pieces

[night socket]

ohh good to know. Thanks!

you cant change the embelishment of the weapon right ?

so I gotta decide now if I play fury or arms

[urban skiff]

You can with recrafting.

But it costs some materials and you have to find a specific crafter. Recrafting cannot be done via public order

so it's a bit annoying to do often

[night socket]

but it doesnt cost heraldrys ?

[fierce elm]

nope

only to buy an embellishment and find a crafter

and a tip of course to the crafter

[night socket]

cool then Im gonna craft that beauty now

sword is better than polearm ?

everyone using sword but the polearm has higher max dmg. In classic this used to be the choice if I remember correctly

[urban skiff]

no such thing. Weapon damage is normalized now

[night socket]

did u go for darkmoon sigil ascension ?

top 3 players all took a different one lol

but rest of list -> fury = ascension

3. player went for vivacity and 1st player Symbiosis

[fierce elm]

I would grab ascension

[night socket]

👍

[boreal veldt]

if i'm not mistaken the polearm craft is agi

careful out there

[night socket]

oh yea youre right. Good thing I went for the sword haha

do people want higher tips for crafting epic ?

[fierce elm]

Naa

[night socket]

with 2-3k tips I went good so far

[fierce elm]

something like 500-1k is fine

[night socket]

oh

i didnt get a craft when I put 1k

[fierce elm]

you can be a cheap tipper

or a good tipper

its up to you

[night socket]

so I went with 2 almost all the time hjaha

[fierce elm]

I usually tip 1-2k on just general things

[night socket]

👍

[fierce elm]

then 5k on personal because its more fun

[night socket]

yea true

[lavish quest]

I save my tip for only the finest of ladies thank you

[violet fossil]

not much of a big tipper then huh

[cinder thorn]

tipping is an insult anyway

tipping originated in contexts that often emphasized social hierarchies and class distinctions

[lavish quest]

Do they deserve the big tip, that is the question.

[violet fossil]

if they give you big ilvl yes

big big ilvl

huge

[lavish quest]

My big ilvl comes from dungeons and raid bosses

[orchid valve]

Imagine winning any loot from raid bosses

[wheat jay]

Just play with a guild and say every item is your bis

[cinder thorn]

Warrior was so much more fun in DF, not enjoying it at all now

It's depressing

I been trying every night for days and just zero progress

I used to be able to burst people in DF with some actual threat

Now it's like a fucking wet noodle

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/peachmad-goma-love-peach-and-gif-17040176457246855093

[quaint zenith]

I took this short and turned it into a weakaura - not perfect when things change during the GCD but it cracks me up anyway https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3D_EF4Xq_0g

[cinder thorn]

I'm going to wait till weapon is released from quest and if that doesn't feel better ill just uninstall

I'm hoping the successful warriors are so because they crafted the weapon whereas I been waiting

There is no other explanation it can't be that bad

[rancid granite]

i mean there's always the option that its you not the class

[cinder thorn]

I'm using green weapons

So I'll try conquest ones when they release

Blizz are dicks for not allowing us to buy them sooner I been feeling like shit

And no it's not me because I'm same person who played in DF and it was fine, great fun and good threat with brust windows

[rancid granite]

everyone and their mom saying fury is S/A+ tier and you're hitting like a wet noodle

[violet fossil]

My mom doesn’t play

[cinder thorn]

S+ with greens?

[vapid rover]

Relax we'r not gonna have any change next week on tunning patch 🙃

i wait a lill push up for the arms spec

but nothing, so maybe blizzard just think the class is where they want 🤷‍♂️

[rancid granite]

play it anyway

B+ not bad

[vapid rover]

arms is B+ ? never

[lucid walrus]

this is a large part of it, i promise you

[vapid rover]

all people i see that try to rate arms in spec ranking put it just in the lowest dps tier

[violet fossil]

it’s a mage meta is y

into melee arms still does pretty well

[rancid granite]

B tier is not lowest

[vapid rover]

i saw people put it in C tier

[rancid granite]

[quaint zenith]

Why not just craft weapons?

[glossy island]

I hit a druid a 4.8 mil demolish in solo and felt great

@cinder thorn play colossus arms press demolish once on full stacks and fall in love with war again

[minor vector]

fury feels fine with green weapons, i got bad news chief

[copper fox]

How does not having conq weapons feel like shit when no one has weapons

[vapid rover]

yeah feel great but need a set up where ennemy have 0 cc or wall to counter it

[copper fox]

Imagine playing Batman cleave with that

Might be viable 😂

[vapid rover]

i think arms would be very fine if demolish is not countered by 90% of existing cc

[thick reef]

cash me ousy, hahbahdah

[spice hornet]

I’m ngl I’m finna crash out on you

[minor vector]

💋

[elder island]

I'm addicted to demolish crits

If only it worked like rampage

[robust hearth]

https://www.twitch.tv/weedtyler/clip/SpeedySplendidRaisinDancingBaby-TE4ZEZlfjRL-kmmz

BRUH HOW

[zenith marlin]

Ye fr wtf is casting

[ivory osprey]

When crafting the fury PVP stuff according to the pin, do you always want a harmonious missive in there to guarantee MAST/VERS?

[verbal tangle]

Yes

[thick reef]

Some big brain person tell me why Dpoy has a completely different build to what Magnus recommended for arms as far as gear priority?

[urban skiff]

purchase fury offhand, prot mainhand -> craft shield offhand with weapon embellishment?

[potent moon]

did yall know you can meat cleaver hamstring

[dark topaz]

Sheesh wp

[boreal veldt]

Cause what magnus posted is just a general get started guide, you can still do whatever you want

[urban skiff]

Also people who plan their gear right will have 4set and full conq level gear in 8 days, so we're on the cusp of nothing mattering anymore about buying gear

(not fury though, they're 525 conq behind everyone else, but better than being 1750 behind)

[boreal veldt]

[boreal veldt]

i'm waiting for others to get 4set to see if it's even worth

i've got the 2set and am probably just gonna sit on it

[urban skiff]

my warrior is wearing complete greens right now, I'm holding off on everything until they're done messing with balance. With 100% certainty there's going to be a patch that buffs tier sets so warrior will equip in pvp. Blizzard hates when the "good boy" classes don't use all their toys

But everyone else will still be equipping 4set in two resets time and, like I said, people who planned ahead will have weapon embellishment, 4 set, full weapons.

so damage go up for others, not for woyer

unless fix

[boreal veldt]

3 resets including tomorrow right? cat resets every other week no?

[urban skiff]

We getting 3rd charge tomorrow?

or 2nd?

[boreal veldt]

2nd

[urban skiff]

huh

[boreal veldt]

we got 2set from token

[urban skiff]

well then literally everyone has access to full gear when 4 set hitss

No excuses

that's an extra 550 + 600 currenciess for conq level gear

I think my s key is breaking

[boreal veldt]

too much backpedaling

[urban skiff]

but i don't even play mage or hunter

[boreal veldt]

lol

[jaunty ruin]

guys is crafted ring must have? I just got my points for this week and wondering if I should craft one

current gear

[urban skiff]

crafted pieces have significantly lower vers so be aware of that when you craft.

[jaunty ruin]

should i just wait until tomorrow and buy a big piece like chest?

[urban skiff]

but they also allow you to flex stats better, for example stacking mastery completely

[boreal veldt]

dps trink > hands? or no difference really

[urban skiff]

It's worth mentioning that you can buy bloody token gloves but not trinkets. May be efficient to buy token off pieces and maybe convert to set

(depending on what stats bloody token or tier piece has in that slot)

[boreal veldt]

hands tier and bloody are both crit vers lmao

but that is a fair point i was thinking about

[urban skiff]

it's what I'm doing on my shaman

bloody token hat + gloves. Convert gloves to tier tomorrow

both gives me vers/haste

[jaunty ruin]

does the converation thingy stack? or do I have to use it no matter what this week?

[boreal veldt]

charges stack if you don't use em

[jaunty ruin]

got ya

[urban skiff]

m8 fix your transmog

[dusty heath]

Just gotta say as a multi glad 2800xp warrior this is the worst warrior has felt in like 7 years they absolutely gutted us paper thing bottom damage cause we're always getting trained how is this allowed ?

[steady token]

So another 2 weeks after today for 4set right?

[boreal veldt]

ye, you can have a total of 3set pvp pieces this reset

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

just play thane lmao

if the problem is dying the solution is to become the tank

[steady token]

Nice ty

[dusty heath]

@urban skiff have you tried thane In arena it's all AOE thunderclap spam you have no single target

[steady token]

it's fun, gonna play thane the whole xpac,Just wish it had more talent pts avalaible for utility

[urban skiff]

i don't see the problem

[shy herald]

What do you all think about using a macro to switch to a sword and shield in order to utilize Shield Block as a defensive CD (especially against melee classes)?

[jaunty ruin]

@urban skiff i'll take the transmog recomendations haha

[urban skiff]

do this but warr edition

[jaunty ruin]

dam boi

i have a fresh acc, dont have any mogs at all

can i get like s2 gear from tbc or something?

in tanaris?

[urban skiff]

any season gear if you got marks of honor

[jaunty ruin]

yeah but where are the vendors

nvm googled a yt vid

[urban skiff]

different vendors from different expansions' pvp zones

Dalaran has a bunch of gear

[shy herald]

Anyone?

[urban skiff]

the idea is great but if you're fury you're completely nerfing your damage

essentially crowd controlling yourself while they burst you

[shy herald]

I'm doing arms at the moment (I know it's supposedly less optimal but somehow have been having more success with it, maybe because it's less expected?)

[urban skiff]

go for S1, it's a classic on gnomes

[jaunty ruin]

hmm

[urban skiff]

arms isn't less optimal for you then

[jaunty ruin]

was thinking s5 but ill check it out

[urban skiff]

They're all good

[shy herald]

Yea I guess I do know / have more experience with the spec compared to Fury

[urban skiff]

But yeah, you're nerfing your own damage by a ton to take slightly less damage

[shy herald]

What kinds of attacks will shield block actually block? Just melee correct?

[echo bone]

yeah boi

[urban skiff]

melee non-stealth abilities

so like cheap shot is unaffected by shield block

[uneven swan]

Is it even useful to bind it ?

[jaunty ruin]

where the hell is pvp gear in dalaran (alliance)

they changed everything

[urban skiff]

no, but also you can sort of do it off the gcd

[urban skiff]

go to northrend dalaran

legion is different

[jaunty ruin]

nah i went old dala, it's in the sewers

[urban skiff]

oh yeah

[vivid fable]

fastest way to get a pvp set?

im like 610 ilvl in pve, idk if i should just jump into rated with it

[urban skiff]

absolute fastest?

buy these and craft a bunch or start farming honor

[vivid fable]

👍

[urban skiff]

610 is ok in itself while farming honor but unless you have a ton of vers on your pve gear you're going to have a kind of bad time

[rancid granite]

what'd you do to that poor guy

[rancid granite]

you smited the evil right outta the guy

then took a selfie of it

paladins so scary

[buoyant chasm]

Was a thing in wotlk but i remember they changed it, you can’t change equipment while in combat or am I wrong? Anyway is not worth

[urban skiff]

huh? I'm enhancement

[rancid granite]

oh i just see pally wings

oh prolly the blazing wings right

[violet fossil]

bg event this week

so just spam bgs when it starts

[vivid fable]

awesome

[urban skiff]

I put a cancelaura /use into my big cooldown macro, makes wings pop up every time i use doomwinds

[rancid granite]

oh right lol

i got that too but forget to use it

[urban skiff]

do what i do

macro this into charge

[thick reef]

Ima do that

Good idea ❤️

[urban skiff]

Worth mentioning, other players don't see the old cloak effects, so you're not advertising anything in pvp

[lavish quest]

So those toys are just invisible to them? Sadge

[urban skiff]

I guess maybe?

I haven't tested, i just asked trade chat one time and they told me

[fickle forge]

Fav toy to use in PvP is the nightfae flute or w/e it's called

[rancid granite]

im big sad over the fae harp not being usable in pvp 😭

fae flute is a fun lil jingle but i wanna play the harp in the waiting rooms

[wheat jay]

You mean unkickable convoke?

[fickle forge]

Yeah like Artji said, people used the harp to make your channels unkickable

Like conjoke

[rancid granite]

i assumed that it was being abused somehow

bastards ruining it for everyone

[wheat jay]

now they should disable racials

and we're good

[buoyant chasm]

I hope one day

And I want to use all type of armors as trasmog too

[rancid granite]

at least weapons

[urban skiff]

just let us choose one as a talent

no reason kthuman can't warstomp or gnome can't bullrush

[fallen solar]

What class y’all think is going to be released in the next expansion?

[urban skiff]

elf related

[fallen solar]

Night warrior

Warden

Spell breaker

[urban skiff]

not unlikely but it's blizzard so 50/50 chance they make another elf-locked race

and 50/50 chance they realize how stupid that is and make something else

[wheat jay]

new dh spec

100%

[fallen solar]

They should just add another DH spec

[wheat jay]

or this expansion

[fallen solar]

Yes

[wheat jay]

100% ranged too

and i 100% will play it xD

[urban skiff]

DH should have ranged/support like aug

[fallen solar]

Everyone will

[urban skiff]

call it Bard

I just want to watch the whole world burn and I love it when the losers lose their shit over drachtyr being tHe WoRsT rAcE eVeR aDdEd

[fallen solar]

Yeah idk how playing warrior and warlock on a drachtyr is gonna work out

Hunter and rogue also right?

[wheat jay]

not supp

just dps

[urban skiff]

I just wish I could make my dragon fatter

Like Kthuman fat

[fallen solar]

lol

[urban skiff]

make an actual big boi

I also want fat vulpera

Just rolling around, looking like a pandaren butt

[fallen solar]

On ESO you can make your character really fat

[lavish quest]

Ban this man

[spice hornet]

Ping me when arms isn’t D tier

[urban skiff]

bro time to wake up

D tier is enh only

I ain't got time for scrubs like arms

[pure hornet]

Si guyz
What you bought? Chest? Shoulder

Or rings?

[elder island]

I hit a 3 mil demolish on a hunter. Spec bad but spec is fun.

[urban skiff]

I do about the same as prot

kotmogu, prot with ball, saltwater pot and berserk buff is hillarious by the way

[worthy fern]

Give me a dh with a 2hander and I’d never play war again

There’s one with a pole arm in the dh starting zone so it’s canonically possible

[lavish quest]

Dh deroller smh

[wheat jay]

dh fun

[wheat jay]

dh with gun and bow in hearthstone tho

[elder island]

This was in a duel

[urban skiff]

wish granted.

You notice a finger on the monkey paw curls.

You realize too late, that guns at 2h

[urban skiff]

Mine too. Was just stating that demolish is uniquely crazy in kotmogu as a tank because of how high stacks can go. Just full on 1-shotting people

[lavish quest]

Warrior with warglaive in tbc but they took that from us

[urban skiff]

unlock warglaives and guns for warrior