pvp

[thick reef]

on range

if possible

[wheat jay]

ohh as in use on him

ok ok

[thick reef]

try to keep CC

on range

but he mostly dies in 10 sec if fighting other melee

like retri

[weary forge]

literally in stun

4 seconds max, and I am dead

[thick reef]

idk what can i do more he gets bursted down to fast

[elfin surge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralRamshackleCourgetteMingLee-TESZIV26Zctx91dQ

@fickle forge

[weary forge]

I wanted to take a spear, but as you see everyone is saying go for dragons roar

[elfin surge]

spear

[thick reef]

either help out or get lost nerd

tryina fix smth if u aint gonna help stfu

[cloud meadow]

maybe i shouldve rolled dk

[proud breach]

^

[fickle forge]

What

[vapid tartan]

Do u have full honor gear atleast

[weary forge]

yeah

[thick reef]

He doesnt

he has few items

gimme a sec

[weary forge]

not honor gear, the ppvp one from AH

[vapid tartan]

That’s prob why

[thick reef]

Alright so do we start rated b4 getting full honor?

[fickle forge]

Bro Laros is playing Juggernaut what the fuck

[thick reef]

Or do we blast skirmish and shit like that

[elfin surge]

[vapid tartan]

U can but if yr friend is dying insta then prob send some bgs and get full gear

[copper fox]

Get gear

[thick reef]

Ty brother

[thick reef]

Fucking rat

fuck wow community honestly way to many nerds that live on twitch ,opinionless skeleton husks

[fickle forge]

Who the fuck is dude out here trynna argue with

[thick reef]

fuck

[vapid tartan]

To be fair that was common sense

[thick reef]

this discord

[vapid tartan]

Lol

[copper fox]

Imagine not being fully geared and asking why you’re dying

[fickle forge]

Bro arguing with the voices

@wheat jay You bringing me in to talk to this brainless idiot?

[vapid tartan]

Idk why that wouldn’t be the first thought

[copper fox]

On another level of bad

[fierce elm]

lmao

my guy snapped

[wheat jay]

?

had to go away from pc

im back now

[elfin surge]

what did i say why am i being bullied man

[wheat jay]

dont be so aggressive to everythign around and you'll get better answers that's for sure

get your homie some gear

no wonder he's dying instantly

gear is #1 priority in wow pvp lol

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14376489469597708848

[wheat jay]

cuz you're washed

where 10 r1s this season?

[fierce elm]

loser yellow name

[elfin surge]

fuck wow community honestly way to many nerds that live on twitch ,opinionless skeleton husks

[fierce elm]

Gets made fun of for picking spear and just SNAPS

just some innocent banter

[elfin surge]

i tried spear the other day

does less than my auto attacks

most useless 1.5m cd?

[fierce elm]

Yeah but your warrior sucks

[elfin surge]

my warrior is the most powerful

[fierce elm]

I have the secret spear tech

its called, not picking it

[elfin surge]

usually go with that build too

[fierce elm]

I taught you

[elfin surge]

was trying everything see what feels good after nerfs

you know its bad if we're looking at spear again tho

still as bad as always

[copper fox]

After the odyn nerfs, odyn feels the best

Ngl

lol

[elfin surge]

sucks they target odyns

fun ability

[copper fox]

Agree

[urban skiff]

rank 36, that's kind of cool

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/boxing-tom-and-jerry-jerry-tom-punched-gif-14995820

[urban skiff]

@knotty atlas need cleanup in here

[wheat jay]

nah

leave it

[rancid granite]

you'd think he woulda been the fury warrior and not a hunter right

[wheat jay]

real

[urban skiff]

lmao

definitely DH energy

[wheat jay]

nah

dh discord actually chill as hell

[fierce elm]

we clean uo for that?

I have seen worse these past two weeks lmao

[stone sentinel]

fuck all the nerf

[thick reef]

well done mate

[urban skiff]

Just play prot lol

[urban skiff]

Shouldn't have to though

[stone sentinel]

as a sword and shield main in mhw don't tempt me

[lavish quest]

My BGB just had 5 hunters, 4 warlocks, and 3 monks

Misa seein an issue

I was the only warrior. Truly dead class

[orchid badge]

im often the only protwarr in my bgbs 😦

[urban skiff]

yes brother

SnS is good

Funlance is better

But brothers in shield, against the common foe: The lance

[orchid badge]

two kotmogu games in a row where my team doesnt take orbs

[mellow tulip]

Ran this today, single target based with BS as a 2 charge pro dominant utility

Bahjeeras “Anti Nerf” build. It was VERY strong. Single target based.

[orchid badge]

0-1500 eots game

i honestly dont know what my team does. i just look at scoreboard and we are 200 behind right from the start

[rancid granite]

i kinda assume rbgb being a new thing a lot of new people will start playing at it

so a lot of newcomers

blitz in general still new

thus... chaos :D

[orchid badge]

enemy team does fine

[rancid granite]

i mean its rng right

just remember that when you're on the team that auto wins

and feel BLESSED

[orchid badge]

tell me more about how its random

my team didnt take our bases at the start 😄

and we lost market

[rancid granite]

sux

[fierce elm]

Blizzard is totally targetting you

[white arch]

I had that same situation happen yesterday =/

[lavish quest]

Wonder why

[lethal jackal]

can someone tell ma a good guide for rotation opener pvp arena for fury?

[orchid badge]

rotations in pvp is so sad 😦

[rancid granite]

dont be a debbie doomer

[rancid granite]

youtube bajheera he has some good guides up and up to date

[lavish quest]

Do big dam. Repeat

[deep condor]

What's making Fury S-A tier on all these YouTube lists over arms that is C? Fury seems to fold up pretty hard getting trained as well, but then again I'm pretty trash at this game soo

[rancid granite]

c?

B+!

[orchid badge]

higher dps and more -healing

now i won so im happy again

[stone sentinel]

Im not trusting anyone that say fury is S tier tho

[orchid badge]

people havent had time to change their tier lists yet

it certainly was s tier when everybody played it

[fierce elm]

Its pretty good still

I dont trust anyone who puts specs in a ranking because it doesnt matter

[orchid badge]

thats a pretty bad take

frost mage is a better spec than prot warrior

[fierce elm]

Does it matter for you personally

Is a ranking list ever gonna keep a spec from hitting w.e rating

The only people who obsess over ranking lists are rerollers usually anyways who plays w.e is really good at the time

Or just have an obsession with telling people their spec is ”bad”

Pick a spec that feels good, a spec will never hold you back from w.e realistic goals you have

[runic wharf]

idk what is with moonkins but i do not get along with them lol. we were doin silvermines and everyone is tryin to take top when we lose if they take mid. and some joe blow complains about my dmg when moonfire is 80% of his dmg profile.

[orchid badge]

yes. no protwarrs above 2.2k 😄

[fierce elm]

Right now

I love judging a season based on the first 2 weeks lmao

But anyways, tier lists are useless and everyone who makes one is doing it for clicks/engagement

[orchid badge]

but anyways, youre wrong

factually

[fierce elm]

am I though?

What purpose does a tier list serve

at all

Other than give you the inclination that a spec is bad

But does that really matter

It aint gonna keep you from reaching w.e ceiling you want

[orchid badge]

i feel like thats one of the most important things

what random arbitrary spec did blizzard decide to make insanely strong

(frost mage is the answer)

[fierce elm]

Does it matter though

[runic wharf]

tier lists just let you feel justified in complaining

[fickle forge]

Yeah guys I literally can't win because Supertease put this spec higher on his tier list last week

Literally impossible to do anything now

The universe holds me back

[fierce elm]

yeah exactly lmao

[orchid badge]

nobody is saying that..

and youre right to complain about frostmages

[fickle forge]

Idk what the convo is, but fuck tier lists

[fierce elm]

Yeah fuck tier lists

they serve no purpose

[orchid badge]

incorrect

youre allowed to dislike them

but a tier list that has frostmage in s tier obviously has a function

especially to new players

[wispy notch]

Frost mage lets talk about the evoker that has flight and 90% slow all the time

[trail hamlet]

alright what's yall record now? I'm at 7 in a row for Q 15/16 restarts

[runic wharf]

damn, i think 4 has been my most

[cinder thorn]

What record

7 and 4 what

[wise cargo]

How is exhilarating blows talent (20% chance to reset MS) in arms pvp? Just not worth competing with other talents?

[rancid granite]

a good amount of people still get it

[fickle forge]

Garbanzo talent

[rancid granite]

its legit when you get like 2-3ms in a row

it aint garbanzo it doesnt seem like; just gotta weigh it against a talent you'd replace it with

[fickle forge]

None

[wise cargo]

Ms does significant more damage weighted wise in pvp than pve after value adjustments is why i was curious

[fickle forge]

It's smaller value than you'd think, as you often have utility globals in PvP

Also I'd argue MS -> OP is better overall than MS back to back

[deep epoch]

I'm only 1700 in solo arena and RBG but fury seems pretty good to me so far.

[wise cargo]

Yeah there’s an argument there, depends too if you proc’d the 30% buff and also if you consider rage having value. With the state of the game rage seems like an endless resource really from all the damage you’re taking

[fickle forge]

Yeah rage definitely has value

Sucks when you're hitting that 3rd MS in a row and now you lack rage for IP and IV

[wise cargo]

In pvp it’s nearly infinite tho even if ms reproccing itself but obviously different scenarios each game and who they’re going after

Thanks for your input!

[fickle forge]

Yah I don't think it's good

But it ain't gonna make or break you whether you choose it or not

[orchid badge]

how many times the bgb queue fails

[runic wharf]

how many cancelled queues

cuz someone didnt accept

[cinder thorn]

Oh wow no for me max 2 or 3

[glacial sparrow]

what class do you guys find the most annoying oppo?

catching a frost mage annoys me a lot:/

[cinder thorn]

Does anyone here ever target the DH in arena? They are the only class I never focus because their immune and dodges and misses and stuns annoy the fuck out of me

Its like 24x7 either ccing or dodging/missing/immune or half way across the map or several flights in the air

Vs a good dh the only time I can hit them is when they're stunned or totally out of dcds

Any tips?

[fierce elm]

Dont hit DH or be prepared to fight through micro cc and defensives

[runic wharf]

hands down evoker

[worthy fern]

Depends on what your playing but as war dh sucks to hit

They get deleted by mm hunt though

[orchid badge]

spear misses alot doesnt it?

[lyric violet]

spear sucks

so many ways out of it

[orchid badge]

have u had any comebacks in BGB?

i had a comeback in gilneas, and that BG wasnt changed at all so that makes sense

but all the others, i fall 100 poinst behind and the match is over

[rancid granite]

i've had many where it's like 50 point difference only

hype games

[cinder thorn]

1500/1498 or so a few times

[tribal wedge]

never a big comeback like something 1000 / 0 into win, but 300/400 behing i do

[cinder thorn]

The best games

Had 1500/0 also

[orchid badge]

300 is the limit to call it a comeback id say

[cinder thorn]

All enemies should delete wow

[steep cairn]

Convince me why I should take SKS as arms, it seems like the majority of people aren’t taking it?

[rancid granite]

im going to convince you not to take SKS as the majority aren't taking it

[cinder thorn]

lol

What does sks stand for I'm not on my pc

[tribal wedge]

skullspliter

[cinder thorn]

Oh, I use it

[steep cairn]

If it’s a dps increase for single target arms in pve just wondering why not

I don’t like it but just wondering

[cinder thorn]

Why don't you try it and see

For me I do better with it so I run it

I don't like copying other people

[orchid badge]

ive had the same question ... seems like free dps

[trail hamlet]

man feel like something is messed up with warrior skills.

On a target dummy. Execute crit for 865k. Then next one crits for 1.3M

as arms

[cinder thorn]

https://youtu.be/UBzqelZsCss?si=Kaf4M2LI15_4JXPn

This is why we are getting shafted by these shits

[trail hamlet]

like how does one execute hit 50% harder

So that's what all these dragons do

[orchid badge]

i agree with lord daays, damage seems random

[dense herald]

ive had 1500/1499

[orchid badge]

@trail hamlet spear makes your crits hit harder

[trail hamlet]

Spear was on the first one

[runic wharf]

pvp changes

for the weapons of conquest quest

[orchid badge]

good that they are listening

[cinder thorn]

Yeah good

[cinder thorn]

To be fair I think one of them was 1499 also I just remember the 8s because they happen more often

[low cobalt]

"warriors are an EXCEPTION"

damn right we are

[thick reef]

farewell, friend of the grummels

[elfin sinew]

im losing 70 rating and gaining 30 rating! this is insane!

im going to kill myself if I get another ret frost mage game!

[thick reef]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-madness-300-pazzia-questaèpazzia-gif-18373678

[elfin sinew]

vent over...

[cinder thorn]

Stop playing this game if it will lead you to suicide

[elfin sinew]

Im losing my mind

[low cobalt]

im just doing rated bg blitz until arms is buffed lol

[cinder thorn]

Games are fir enjoyment if u nit enjoying it stop

[low cobalt]

and playing alts etc.

[elfin sinew]

I can’t understand how ret is even a thing ! They double the lobby damage

[violet fossil]

Was fury getting both 2h weapons before the change?

[trail hamlet]

as long as you turned in the quest as fury

[violet fossil]

Thanks

[orchid badge]

are you ever FC when you play BGB?

or is there always a better FC? like a healer

[wise cargo]

I haven’t looked into comparing numbers but check the % difference in value from pve and pvp

[cinder thorn]

Warrior is not the best fc, but it depends on your and enemy team and how close game is

If my team is farming enemy in their base anyone can carry flag

In competitive game you want the fc to be a druid or monk or maybe a dh

[orchid badge]

yes i play only FC so i dont know how it works in your games @cinder thorn

so im curious if anyone is FCing as fury / arms

[cinder thorn]

As warrior I think you're better for team on front line, you can be kited and soloed as an FC I wouldn't recommend it unless it's a one sided game

[limber relic]

Double leap bis

[dense herald]

monk and dragon are op

bro ive seen monk fly across the map they have 6 rolls

[remote cosmos]

Soon the monk can be dragon and fly

[orchid badge]

true

monk can easily jump from LM to BS

[limber relic]

I hate monks on WSG

They just stand ontop of flag place and then jump down

Port up

[orchid badge]

sounds op

[dense herald]

tf

ppl making bank

using skip for timewalking

[spice lagoon]

hey guys, quick question, has anyone else' arena partner mentioned they have had difficulty bringing your health up? My friend and I have done arena together for a long time and he has always played a healer.

So far in this season he has played both druid and evoker and says he is struggling to get me above 40% even while in def stance with enraged regen running.

Any suggestions welcome

[topaz forge]

so... we should just spend the tokens in fury if we're not right

or is it just warriors in general? cool

[candid tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2TS7FJGErU
Supatease mentioned us like 300 times because we furys are so smart.

his advice to furys: just zug zug

[frank knoll]

Tried playting frost dk because I was sick of walking at 50% movement speed as a warrior. What an L spec lol, i remember when it was fun to play, feels awful now

[stuck mulch]

what diamond gem do we use?

is it the same as pvp?

pve*

[candid tusk]

You can easly increase your speed up to 10% so you have just -40% lol.

[prime solar]

I use this one but not sure the meta

[candid tusk]

this

[stuck mulch]

oo thats a nice one

[urban skiff]

how many tinderboxes should i farm for a full set of sockets?

asking for a friend

[stuck mulch]

we need tinderboxes for sockets?

[candid tusk]

na

but he can sell them

and buy the pvp gems

[stuck mulch]

beter just farm nullstones

goes for like 5k+

[urban skiff]

exchange rate is basically 1:1

getting 10 tinderboxes an hour, how many nullstones can i get in that time?

[stuck mulch]

depends

and what are u farming to get tinderboxes

[urban skiff]

I'm pretty drunk rn so it can't require much skill to do nulls

tones

[stuck mulch]

all u do is mine to get nullstones

i do it to farm gold

50k-70k hr

[urban skiff]

I don't have the ranks to get complete nullstones thoughj

[stuck mulch]

its the first thing you should take in mining

[urban skiff]

first thing i take is mounted mining

[stuck mulch]

thats bait

[urban skiff]

nah

[stuck mulch]

but i gues u dont use druid as an alt

[urban skiff]

don't matter if i'm super optimized if it's not fun to mine

mounted mining makes mining fun

[violet fossil]

where u get that one

What part of mining

[urban skiff]

I dunno

[stuck mulch]

i mean you should have that later easy, and u should have max to nullstone

[urban skiff]

i can barely remember my wife's boyfriends' names

[stuck mulch]

i have all that on my druid

[urban skiff]

no way i can remember what an ability is called in a mining tree in a video game

[violet fossil]

Is that from maxing the specific ore?

[stuck mulch]

ye

[violet fossil]

Ty

Wondered what that meant

[urban skiff]

that's another 2 tinderboxes

[violet fossil]

Where do you farm tinderboxes?

[urban skiff]

are you on EU?

[violet fossil]

na

[urban skiff]

aight so nightfall sanctum on level 1

[violet fossil]

ok was gonna ask if it was through nightfall

[urban skiff]

make sure to drag bran past every gathering node and speedrun the end boss

I get more from gathering than i do the full run

[violet fossil]

ok cool

ty

was gonna level an alt but

need to farm

[stuck mulch]

where do u farm

delves?

[urban skiff]

yes

[stuck mulch]

yeah fuck that

[urban skiff]

why?

action targetting on

and just autorun

[stuck mulch]

what tier do u have to run and wich delve, mining i just afk watching tv shows

[urban skiff]

tier 1

in nightfall sanctum

[stuck mulch]

hmm

might give it a go

[urban skiff]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/pvp-weapons-of-conquest-update-1963388

Update to pvp weap quest

They fix the bullshit sort of

Still not amazing for people who wants crafted weap early

[rancid granite]

does that help people who forgot to pick up quest

i cant tell

[urban skiff]

yes

[topaz forge]

yes. it's tracked in a feat of strength/achievement now, and it is retroactive

[urban skiff]

it changes to an achievement

and means it's retroactive from that point

not 100% sure how to capitalize on this

but since I haven't bought anything for my warrior yet, i think I can justify getting 2x conq weapons and saving crafting mats for later

while embellishments are decent, i bet having 2 to 2½ more conq pieces will outweigh it

[rancid granite]

neat then

[urban skiff]

oh not bad

[crimson onyx]

I am somewhat confused about Arms. Are we mega stacking Haste or actually going mastery?

[urban skiff]

haste to taste and mastery for the rastery

[crimson onyx]

taste?

[urban skiff]

how much haste do you usually prefer?

[crimson onyx]

No idea 😄

[urban skiff]

arms don't change that much these days, it's the same as you did all the other seasons

i think people go for 20-25% haste

guys is it legal to dope myself to pvp better?

[rancid granite]

to make you think you pvp better*

[restive fulcrum]

Hi i just made a warrior

my question is what items would you craft / buy first from conquest ?

Fury warrior*

[urban skiff]

no like literally ADD medication

wife has a bunch laying around

No way it'll make me better because I'm a dumdum but maybe it'll make me feel better about losing?

[stuck mulch]

a new class

try mage

[rancid granite]

yeah been there done that nothing beats playing zen mind

but it can be fun, if you're still a kid into that stuff

[copper fox]

Fury warrior gaming on 600+ mg of caffeine is euphoric

[stuck mulch]

until u get that losing streak and ur about to implode due to sheer caffine anger

[copper fox]

I’ve discovered a counter to losing

It’s just winning

[white arch]

Was on a nice win streak then got a horrible team that would not stop spamming chat x.x Hitting 1800 can be a pain with random teams

[urban skiff]

300 mg caffeine just to lift weights

[copper fox]

At least

[urban skiff]

plus ibuprofen and paracetamol

[copper fox]

ibuprofen + anadrol is a vicious cocktail

[urban skiff]

but at least i'm benching 140 every session now so not weak anymore

yay

just need to stop fallinga part

[copper fox]

Nice dude feelsgood

Benching is so fun I wish I was better @ it 😭

[restive fulcrum]

No thanks not a fan of Ranged 🙂

[urban skiff]

bench is fun, but not as fun as overhead pressing

[fierce elm]

overhead press sucks dick

[copper fox]

Yea ohp kinda whack ngl

[urban skiff]

OHPing bodyweight is the goat.

I just wish I had a log bar

[copper fox]

I will probably never do that but I don’t really train it

[fierce elm]

Did that, never OHP'd again

fuck that lift

[urban skiff]

I used to train for strongman before covid ruined my conditioning so OHP is a staple for me, even more so than bench

[hallow tiger]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/class-tuning-incoming-25-september-538642

[low elk]

Does the algari missive quality affect anything other than pve stats? Or should I buy the cheapest one?

[rancid granite]

right

stats are same in pvp

no mater quality

[urban skiff]

aw man I was too slow

this is HUGE

[copper fox]

I play tsg not good

[crimson onyx]

What pieces are you guys buying this week, or are you saving up?

[urban skiff]

time to play turbo

[urban skiff]

saving up on warr

haven't spent anything yet

But i'm weird like that, went straight to 1600 on enh without buying either

[crimson onyx]

xD

Make it a bit more exciting

[urban skiff]

at least i know my wins aren't because I'm ahead

[crimson onyx]

Exactly

[violet fossil]

ur fine

[prime solar]

Evoker wasn't affected by slows anyways so you're good 🙂

[low elk]

ty

[sage raptor]

Dk vs warr

[cinder thorn]

is anyone else getting guild achievement popups all the time? they are so annoying

[orchid badge]

why cant i see myself on drustvar

what ladder do people use?

[spice hornet]

yep

uits so bad

Not something I like to see on my fresh mmr 2nd warr

shuffle

[copper fox]

lol so true

[marsh flax]

there si an addon - Guild Achievement Disabler

[acoustic lintel]

When the fuck is arms getting a buff

[prime solar]

It's so wonky with skull splitter I wouldn't be surprised if we see a soft rework

[lavish quest]

I saw an arms warrior kill something once, it's S tier

[stuck mulch]

truee

[graceful sinew]

this build slaps a little

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/DAOARVUVFUgEUYZUVBENVUUVURFVRKFRQCEQEFVVUCUQ

[rose wedge]

Is fury much better than arms atm?

Haven’t played retail since legion, but this xpac looks pretty decent.

[boreal veldt]

fury is slightly ahead of arms yes

[dreamy pine]

first 6-0 shuffle of the season. felt really good as arms. anyone know if there is a point in the warrior side of the tree that you use to swap certain talents

[pastel fossil]

Is there any pvp build that doesnt include onslaught? i rly dont like it lol

[spice hornet]

Why do you not like it?

[copper fox]

I can’t even imagine not playing with it

[spice hornet]

It hits hard

[copper fox]

And it’s just another ability… our others are down so often

[slate urchin]

What build are you running?

[dreamy pine]

https://i.imgur.com/nsBKDQ0.jpeg

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AgtZMzMmxMzmtllZGAAAAMYaGzMDDzswixYmBmZADMjZAAAAAAAwMzsMGDgYYssNLmZbYzwwMzMtQzwgF

[spice hornet]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[acoustic tinsel]

so im quitting wow and deleting my toons i have 100,000 gold

[dreamy pine]

ronaldragin-stormrage

send it there baby

[spice hornet]

Qfiend-Stormrage send it to me I’ll play ur acc for you until you come back

Get you 2.4 in shuff

[acoustic tinsel]

naww i suck at this game im just gonna delete it and never play again

[dreamy pine]

im sorry to hear that you feel that way. if you want you can also send it to Hexalia-Dalaran if you are horde

[obsidian loom]

did they add a million more cc's christ sakes i can only move when BS is up

[slate urchin]

Yeah it's rough

[proud breach]

cake

[trail hamlet]

and CC's that don't follow the DR rules a well!

[pastel fossil]

Because it’s not meta in PVE, so i keep having to swap between having, and not having it lol

[urban skiff]

next week m8, just hang in there

look at all these buffs to DH

[polar gyro]

are we just getting 2 set and then crafting the rest of the pieces of heraldries?

[urban skiff]

I'd wait if I were you

Blizzard hates it when their favoured specs don't equip full set bonus so it's likely to get buffed

[polar gyro]

so just 2 piece and set on conquest?

[urban skiff]

Again, I'd hold off and wait

To me, not spending all my currency for a few weeks is superior to bricking my character in an attempt to be first mover on optimal gearing while blizzard is still in their rebalance mode of a patch

[pure hornet]

So i crafted weappn
And now blizz gives us 2 conq weapons fir fury?

Wasted weap?

Magnus is gunna get the bullet

[urban skiff]

You were always getting two weapons. I called that out i here about 50 times

If the weapon embellishment is good then you were always going to craft weapon eventually.

But this is why i didn't buy or craft anything yet on my warrior

[pure hornet]

Wise choice
It’s not like you wanna rush high cr at start of seanson

[urban skiff]

Knew something was coming. Next up they'll buff the tier 4pc and people who crafted conq pieces in those slots are gonna be shook that i was right again.

[pure hornet]

Ok i’ll hire a gunman for mag
Next seasons Zercher makes the plan fosr gearing setup

[pure hornet]

I’m gunna jump off a bridge if you’re right…

[urban skiff]

I'm an idiot. I just have moments of clarity.

And gearing optimally is eerily similar to my job so yea

[pure hornet]

I’m a clarity, i just have moments of idiocy
So there’s that

Zerch
One question
Why does magnus has one crit gem

Is it to have pozitive crit chance when hitting recklesness?
Cuse with cursed mastery i am on negative crit, and even if i pop recklesness i still have 0 crit chance?

Zercher?

[vivid fable]

Is fury viable in solo queue rbgs or shuffle?

Or am I destined to just be prot tank in rbg solo queues 😔

[pure hornet]

It is viable
Prot just behaves better in rbg

[orchid badge]

damn are you guys really playing prot?

what rating are you?

[mellow tulip]

I'm not sure if its a lot of weird oversights on Magnus' side but I feel like he makes a lot of strange decisions

The whole 2 weapon from the quest thing was pretty obvious I thought

[orchid badge]

ure saying he should have waited 3 weeks to get a weapon?

im sure he chose to craft it day 1 to have an epic

and an embellishment

[mellow tulip]

Not saying that, it just seemed pretty evident to me by the way the quest rewards were phrased that you were getting both

It says " You will Recieve"

[fierce elm]

I mean, he was going to craft either way

he already knew that

[orchid badge]

hehe well thats a minor thing

[fierce elm]

we arent going to use two conquest weapons in the end regardless, we are going to use one crafted and one conq weapon as fury

[mellow tulip]

Crafting is sure enough going to get you more damage, so it's a good move in that regard

Afro, explain?

[fierce elm]

We want the embellishment we get from the weapon

[orchid badge]

hes saying in the guide that "i dont know if u get 1 or 2 weapons from this qust__

[fierce elm]

The only way to get that is to craft

Yeah, but it doesnt matter because all he wants is one weapon either way

The quest was very weird

especially with the vast amount of bugs it went through when someone swapped spec, went to a different zone, relogged

[mellow tulip]

Ahhh yep good call

[fierce elm]

In the end we are going to have crafted neck+rings, crafted weapon+crafted gloves

at least one ring is going to be crafted at least

Weapon+gloves for embellishment combo

This leads to getting two mast+vers rings if you wanna stack mastery

or two mast+vers weapons

[orchid badge]

is there an embellishment thats good for FCing?

tanky

[fierce elm]

weapon embellish is vers

but I guess there are better out there for tanks specific things

would have to ask in #protection tbh

they are all aware of that shit

[orchid badge]

im using legs and chest atm, 800 vers when im above 80% health

x2

[mellow tulip]

Dumb question.

Why are yall tanking PvP?

For bosses?

[fierce elm]

They are doing BG blitz

not arena

BG blitz has advantages to bring a tank

[orchid badge]

FCing and stuff yes

[main apex]

How are you guys doing solo shuffles? I feel like i am perma slowed/rooted in every arena. Running gnome and even with escape artist i cant stay close enough to target

[orchid badge]

i dont feel that but im low rating

obviously a good mage or evoker can kite you 😦

[main apex]

Every shuffle ive had since 1200 rating to 1800 has been cancer. Perma slowed. Never get a pally healer for bof. I just cant stick to anyone. About to swap to playing spear again so i can lock people down

[orchid badge]

i felt the opposite. i sit and attack my target for 10 minutes until a random person dies

target dummy style

the set pieces dont scale to 639 in pvp?

[gaunt nexus]

it does

[fierce elm]

if you have the pvp pieces

yes

[gaunt nexus]

btw did you guys know that you can also get 2 sockets into your helmet

if you play set helmet

even in pvp

[orchid badge]

how?

[gaunt nexus]

for the vault tokens

[orchid badge]

thats big

but im using engi helm atm it gives more vers

[gaunt nexus]

you can socket an item but its pve only

yo only works if you use tier helmet

even if u use tier helmet that scales in pvp

wont work on belt or wrists tho

[orchid badge]

is there a vers cap? im at 29%

[fierce elm]

nope

[orchid badge]

i noticed that green honor gear gives alot more vers than blue crafted gear

even with 2 sockets a green ring gives more vers

[fierce elm]

the honor gear always give more vers

[orchid badge]

havent checked epics yet

[fierce elm]

thats just how it works

The crafted gear will most likely always have less vers, but you get more secondary on the 2nd stat generally

[orchid badge]

thats interesting for prot....

did i waste 200k gold on socketing my blue gear instead of green? 😄

cause vers seems better for prot

[worthy fern]

@orchid badge wasted 200k socketing blue or green gear

[orchid badge]

blue, but the green gives more vers and im FC

[mellow tulip]

Whats FC

Excuse my ignorance lol

[orchid badge]

flag carry, in wsg and twin peaks

so a tank that holds the flag

[mellow tulip]

Gotchya

Effective as warrior? Have we got enough move speed?

Heroic leap and intervene ?

[orchid badge]

im doing fine 🙂 1700 rating

[elfin sinew]

and its the warrior that gets nerfed~!

[mellow tulip]

THey're getting buffed as well

[orchid badge]

in a big teamfight a balance druid should do more aoe than a fury warrior

certainly

[mellow tulip]

Might be a dumb opinoin but I reckon AOE is overrated in pvp

Id much rather hard single target

15 M split over 4 enemies is healable with dots and aoe heals

hard 7.5 mil on a single is much more annoying

[orchid badge]

maybe some healers have a problem with aoe healing

i assume they dont but maybe 😄

[elfin sinew]

he had more dmg than the rest of the lobby

come on

its broken as fuck

[orchid badge]

thats what i dont like about arena, you cant stop someone from doing dps

warriors can be kited, but a warlock doesnt care if someone is in his face attacking

[tribal wedge]

not true tbf

12 sec kick, a lot of micro cc etc

being run down as a caster is painfull too

[mellow tulip]

True, im only 1500 but it seems like bursting and triggering long defensive CDs is a good strategy to gain a mental edge

I assume it fades once you get to an actual decent rating though lol

[plush cairn]

for pvp best way to gear up is just to farm bloody token cap?

buy weapon

use purple heraldries for crafting

then spend conquest on heraldries and craft more

[mellow tulip]

is it the general consensus that crafted PVP is better than conq??

[dense herald]

https://youtu.be/UBzqelZsCss?si=Ta8Aqr7wLj3EzrQ7

[plush cairn]

whats the conq cap rn?

[empty arch]

2200

[plush cairn]

yeah crafted better thanm

then

u can buy 12 purple ones 175conq each

[orchid badge]

who up capping they conq rn?

[plush cairn]

craft a weapon and still have 10 left

[orchid badge]

2?

[plush cairn]

idk i got 10 from quest

after epic bg

[orchid badge]

oh yes

[plush cairn]

itll just cost u gold

[orchid badge]

i will grab 2h for arms and 1h for prot from the 3 week quest

[plush cairn]

but i dont mind spending gold early season

doesnt matter

so far pve/pvp shit cost me 500k or some shit

i didnt enchant yet

[orchid badge]

has anyone tried ravager + the -50% healing pvp talent as prot in blitz?

[plush cairn]

arms stats for now

mastery low?

haste/versa seems fine i guess

[orchid badge]

ive heard 20% haste is enough

[rancid granite]

have we figured out if we want full tier sets yet

my understanding is crafted is more mast/haste less vers

but some tier pieces have like crit

[fierce elm]

We dont

4 piece is so utterly useless

[pastel fossil]

😎

[plush cairn]

guess ill try to hit conquest cap this week

not sure if its worth buying anything though

might save up for a weap

[cosmic yarrow]

planning to make my 2nd war arms, u guys think thats a mistake? should i just do 2 furys?

[orchid badge]

why 2 warrs?

[cosmic yarrow]

um...so i can push on one and play lfg or with friends on another?

[plush cairn]

why not do 1

u can play lfg and push on the same one

lol

i have 11 warrs

its a disease

[cosmic yarrow]

i mean...u can. then u infinitely tank and push

[fierce elm]

You can do arms on the 2nd one

[cosmic yarrow]

id rather not troll my teammates that way

[fierce elm]

Thats a non issue but it all depends on what you want to play tbh

[plush cairn]

u can keep arms warr as prot warr offspec

similar stats

crit/haste

just different embellishements

and the other one as fury

[cosmic yarrow]

are there comps where arms is better than fury?

[fierce elm]

not really no

They both play the same comps

[orchid badge]

ive won 7 blitz in a row as prot

[restive fulcrum]

what do you guys suggest crafting first from my 9 heraldrys... and what would you buy for bloody token and the rest of conquest points ?

[fierce elm]

there are some gearing tips in the pins

[restive fulcrum]

oh

thanks

[fierce elm]

For the first gearing thing you do

so first week

Magnus looks to be saving for shoulders or a big piece next week rather than buying anything now

[restive fulcrum]

na its first week for me 🙂

just finished lvling and won my first epic BG xD

thats why asked for crafting ❤️

[fierce elm]

So he has bought legs, cloak with conq. Bought one heraldry with conquest and crafted weapon. Then crafted neck+rings, boots, gloves with honor heraldrys

Bought the belt+bracers with bloody tokens

Hasnt bought this week for conq+bloody tokens yet

[restive fulcrum]

is it worth crafting honor stuff... wouldnt you just buy the honor stuff directly ?

or is that because of stats

[fierce elm]

He wanted double mastery+vers rings

and more mastery on neck

Then he crafted boots for the same reason

[restive fulcrum]

ah so its stat reason

[fierce elm]

The gloves he has his 2nd embellishment on

[fierce elm]

So gloves has embellishment and weapon has one, which is a combo

[restive fulcrum]

thanks. ill just go and do all of that ❤️

[fierce elm]

You dont have to craft the neck+rings tbh

[restive fulcrum]

tyvm

ill just follow the pin 😛

[fierce elm]

yeah thats a good idea tbh

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm big week.

On 531 my calculated max on the plus sets is higher than my 1rm was before starting the program consistently for the last 3 weeks now.

Soon i'll be a big boy

[fierce elm]

big boy

Hadnt trained for a week, trained today

now won't get another tattoo or have exams again until like 2-3 months

so can consistently train now at least

[urban skiff]

Fuck yeah

Plus you have time to push ladder ranks

[fierce elm]

Yeah not really lmao

Had exams mon-thursday so was fucking wiped all week

tried to do 3s yesterday but man this meta sucks

[urban skiff]

Time to do blitz as prot

Meme your way to high rank in a low participation bracket

[plush cairn]

fury stats

guess i can get my haste up to 30% by just replaceing a couple items

and enchants

[fierce elm]

the fuck

[plush cairn]

?

[fierce elm]

ya dont need that much haste big man

[plush cairn]

so

keep all 1:1?

or crit lowest and haste/mastery/vers 1:1

[fierce elm]

no

You want more vers/mast tbh

I would aim for around 15-20% haste

rest into mastery

[plush cairn]

i checked pvp guide

[fierce elm]

then just get vers from the gear naturally

[plush cairn]

stat prio

[fierce elm]

what pvp guide

[plush cairn]

icyveins

[fierce elm]

yeah he doesnt play fury

at all

Source: I play 3s with him

[plush cairn]

i only pve'd

as fury

so i know it used to be 30% haste 50% mastery

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Don't

you need like 15-20% haste, rest into mastery, whatever comes naturally from gear to vers

optimally

but you absolutely don't need 25-30% haste

[pliant falcon]

Anyone who has tried or play Mnt Thane, does our Avatar of the Storm just not proc Avatar or am I just really unlucky?

[plush cairn]

how much % does it give towards the seasonal mount

if u win bg blitz

same as solo shuffle 3v3? or more

[restive fulcrum]

For weapon craft we also go Mastery versatility no ?

[limber wagon]

we are skipping tier chest right ?>

[plush cairn]

bruh

theres always that 1 dude that doesnt accept bg invite

6 in a row now

amazing

[primal oxide]

should I use conquest on forged gladiator pieces or heraldry for crafted gear

[pseudo wigeon]

Oi any of you tried colossus arms?

[trail hamlet]

it's ok. I tried a crit version for big bonks. When you crit, you can like 4.5M demolish into a 2.2M sharpened MS. But demolish is just mechanically awful

all within a spear

[plush cairn]

should i save up for a 2h conquest weap?

or just buy other pieces

i crafted neck/ring/wrists

and bought head for bloody tokens

i can still get to 1.1k bloody tokens + 2.2k conquest this week

[pseudo wigeon]

You will get weapons next week

[plush cairn]

which ends up being 4-5 pieces of gear

ahh ye

2.5k weap

[pseudo wigeon]

If fury you get two tokens

[plush cairn]

thats giga good

so we should be full conquest/crafted/token gear next week then i guess

[urban skiff]

2% per win

[plush cairn]

10v10?

[urban skiff]

Wdym "if"?

[plush cairn]

seems to me bg's actually take less time to do

he said if ur fury

[pseudo wigeon]

Bet they will fuck it up too

Like previous quest

[restive fulcrum]

if i take insignia and badge

do i still get teh 2P?

[trail hamlet]

wonder if they'll nerf deathwish

[fierce elm]

yes

[fierce elm]

no

[fierce elm]

its the same as 3s

[plush cairn]

what enchants should i put on my weaps?

for fury

the ones that have a chance to proc crit/haste/mastery/vers

[fierce elm]

Radiant power on both

[rancid granite]

lotta people doin the depths too

[fierce elm]

yeah they are interchangeable pretty much

[urban skiff]

They specifically said fury weapons will cost one token each.

Everyone gets two tokens. Fury just gets a discount to get full weapons same as everyone else

[verbal tangle]

Woyer in general gets discounted 2hs

If you are Arms you can just buy 2 different 2hs

[rancid granite]

i wonder why not rogue :b

[cloud meadow]

what trinket are we using?

[urban skiff]

I'm buying a 1h for prot and 2h for fury

And probs maybe crafting 2h but idk

[boreal veldt]

i play arms but i'm still gonna get the 2 2hs

going to slowly start growing a forbidden crit set

[restive fulcrum]

so i looked on murloc

why do all there go Ascendence and the pin says symbiosis ?

like whats better ?

also is there a way to bind Odins fury and dragon roar onto one Keybind ?

[verbal tangle]

No, they both use a GCD

[verbal tangle]

Depends on what you need more

[restive fulcrum]

hmm

alright

[rancid granite]

yeah you can

in a cast sequence macro

[restive fulcrum]

how would that look then ß

[rancid granite]

it would look like a google/youtube search cause i dont know lmao

i stole one from bajheera's youtube guide for ragingblow/bloodthirst

you can take it and edit it

[cloud meadow]

does fury just have a single defensive button and thats it?

[granite quest]

@restive fulcrum

/castsequence Odyn's Fury, Dragon Roar

Or

/castsequence reset=5 Odyn's Fury, Dragon Roar

Anyone feel free to correct if its wrong

[restive fulcrum]

depending what you count as defensive... i count 4

[cloud meadow]

enraged regen

i guess rally cry kind of counts

[verbal tangle]

Enraged Regen
Defensive Stance
Impending Victory
Rallying Cry
Bitter Immunity
Spell Reflection

[restive fulcrum]

do we even run Bitter immunity ?

i run like this

[verbal tangle]

You can absolutely run BI

I'd swap the Shockwave followup talent for it

[boreal veldt]

We have like 1/2 flex talents

[verbal tangle]

Yeah our talent tree is tighter than a nun

[restive fulcrum]

you mean Rumbling earth?

[verbal tangle]

Yeah, I'd personally cut Rumbling Earth for Bitter Immunity

20% Heal+removing a list of debuffs is kinda good

[boreal veldt]

Or you can cut second wind for an on use heal.

Not ideal but it's an option

[verbal tangle]

If you cut Second Wind you are trolling

[pure hornet]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fickle forge]

Need 2 points in armored to the teeth

[cloud meadow]

idk just to paint a picture, if im ever 1v1ing an affli warlock, i can pop every single defensive and it wont be enough to live through any of hsi cooldowns

but his defensive are way beyond whats necessary to live through mine

[restive fulcrum]

but what point do i throw out ?

[verbal tangle]

That's because our defensives are lackluster, not that we don't have any

[cloud meadow]

thats a nice way to put it

[spice hornet]

Warrior worst 1v1 class in the game

[restive fulcrum]

Fury is the incarnation of "offens is the best defense"

[cloud meadow]

for real?

[fickle forge]

Rumbling

[cloud meadow]

like wtf is this

100 to 0 effortlessly by a monk

not having an issue with losing 1v1s

but id like to win some?

[spice hornet]

Yes

[cloud meadow]

popped every button ive got

and i still cant either kill or live more than 10 seconds

[wheat jay]

no, youre a warrior

you dont win those

[spice hornet]

It has no immunity

[cloud meadow]

so what do you do that makes you good in arena at least

[spice hornet]

No good stuns

Burst usually isn’t anywhere near what a sub, fire mage, etc can do

[fickle forge]

Yeah wtf is that, I can't see what is going on at all

[spice hornet]

Just a bunch of reasons why it’s not good

[spice hornet]

😂

[cloud meadow]

use context clues

so whats popping in 1v1s>?\

[crimson onyx]

So colossus is the way to go for arms now? Or is that only in arena and not Blitz?

[restive fulcrum]

but if i throw out rumbling i cant use Bitter immunity either o.o

also that wouldnt work either

would need to take out on of these

[verbal tangle]

you take Uproar

[dense herald]

https://youtu.be/tTw_CgS35wQ?si=ZNz_8SIHIESgppc0

New pilav vid

[fickle forge]

Bitter Immunity is garbanzo

[restive fulcrum]

ye even then i wouldnt be able to use Armed to the teeth

[fickle forge]

My context clue is that you got fk'd up by an invisible force my guy

[spice hornet]

Bitter immunity one of the worst abilities in the game imo

[fickle forge]

Colossus is garbanzo

[fickle forge]

Yeah mb bro I didn't see fury

Gotta leave it at 1 point

[verbal tangle]

I mean I'd take 3% Leech > Shockwave followup

[restive fulcrum]

Remove uproar and take Armed to the teeth ?

[verbal tangle]

That would be my choice

[fickle forge]

Nah that's not worth either

[hot sierra]

Hi i have question if anybody knows how to turn pets and all shit off on plater addon, i'm getting fucking ptsd

[verbal tangle]

MoP Stampede PTSD

[vast haven]

what weapons go good with the elite tmog?

[copper fox]

Mastery

Oh wait I thought you asked a PvP question

Uh

A sword

[vast haven]

close but not quite

[rancid granite]

a cool looking one though

[echo bone]

that elite mog is ugly af

i put on my bg suit

[tribal wedge]

looks ok for me

[copper fox]

Tbh

[open zephyr]

can you use embellishments on more than one piece of gear or nah?

[vapid tartan]

You can have two equipped

[open zephyr]

ah right. I have weapon and gloves so good to go?

can you embellish a piece of gear after its already been crafted?

[drowsy star]

yeah recraft

[trail hamlet]

monks on enemy team as FC, god tier.

monks on our team? braindead

[orchid badge]

rue

true

[uneven turret]

Haven't played in a few months. How is the queue time with Solo Shuffle? How is the queue time iwth BG blitz?

[quaint zenith]

anyone got a good source for a tutorial on rotation, macros, generalities? my first time playing warr, i can get gearing from murlok, but I could use some additional instruction

[tribal wedge]

bg blitz it's something like 4/5 minutes

as dps

[uneven turret]

and is it fun?

[tribal wedge]

it is

[fierce elm]

Rotation, macros and general things PvE guide handles generally

Macros for warrior are pretty much none

but the rotation is pretty much the same as the PvE one

[uneven turret]

how about solo shuffle? whats queue time as dps?

[tribal wedge]

idk, still not start shuffle

[weak marsh]

10-20min

[uneven turret]

damn, so same as before when it first came out

[fierce elm]

Especially when fury is a popular spec

[uneven turret]

i mean that doesn't affect queue time does it

[fierce elm]

it does

But you can expect 10-20 minute queues ish

depending on your rating

[trail hamlet]

some of these lobbies are insane. 4 MM hunters vs 4 warriors

[vapid tartan]

Spear

[clever fern]

any good loadout for a full melee team ?

[spice hornet]

I’ve been getting sub 15min queues as fury

Once you’re above 1600ish

Even up to 2100

The first time tho took like 25min

[little parrot]

This vid has been helpful to me:

https://youtu.be/90EFk3S36X8?si=ZSDihwEnHmxWxz-D

[quaint zenith]

thanks, I think I saw that one, I'm kinda wondering if it's up to date, tho? probably fine

[rancid junco]

So what's my best in slot crafted gear for PvP?

Can't find info on it online.

Fury spec.

[fierce elm]

what does that even mean

Like overall or just what you want on entirely finished gear

There is a very clear pin that gives you a few ideas

you can look at armories that showcase the gear they wear

[rancid junco]

I literally just joined.

[fierce elm]

murlok.io has a ton too

yeah, im not saying anything about that

[rancid junco]

See that green leaf next to my name? LITERALLY just joined.

[fierce elm]

Im pointing you the right direction

[rancid junco]

Ah.

[fierce elm]

lmao

But yeah, the pin has a little bit of info, seems like ascension is better than symbiosis on embellishment

Murlok.io has quite a bit of information too

giving you more of 'this is what the general people are crafting at x rating'

[rancid junco]

Which pin?

[fierce elm]

this is what Magnus recommended

He just swapped Symbiosis to Ascension

[rancid junco]

So a weapon, I got you.

[fierce elm]

and gloves for honor heraldries

he has since bought nothing and is saving for a big piece

[rancid junco]

Wait, so use Ascension?

Or Ascendance?

[fierce elm]

god its late

its the same thing

I am just dumb

[rancid junco]

Thanks for your patience man, seriously appreciate it.

[fierce elm]

The embellishment is called ascension I just swapped it out

the effect is called ascendance

[rancid junco]

I got you. So use that, not symbiosis, got it.

[limber relic]

i also recently swapped to ascension

[rancid junco]

Does it matter what weapon I use?

[fierce elm]

not really no

[limber relic]

Algari Competitor's Greatsword

[fierce elm]

as long as it has str+two handed

[rancid junco]

Stat priority for that?

[fierce elm]

Im pretty sure you can only craft greatsword of polearm

[limber relic]

i crafted Algari Competitor's Greatsword

[fierce elm]

either haste/vers or mastery/vers

have to go with your gut there

[rancid junco]

I'll probably go haste vers.

[limber relic]

maste vers

[fierce elm]

you can always recraft it

[rancid junco]

Bleh, wrong sorry.

Mastery vers.

[clear ingot]

Is there a reason a lot of people are not going for odyns fury?

[fierce elm]

31 out of the top 50 fury warriors in 3v3 are running it

[clear ingot]

only went as far as checking the top 10, but i noticed a decent amount were not using it? is there a reason for that?

[spice hornet]

I stopped playing it, our single target pressure is huge

[rancid junco]

My build has Onslaught instead.

[limber relic]

odyn is badge

[clear ingot]

so you drop odyns fury to get some stronger little nodes here and there because our single target pressure is strong without it anyways?

im going to try running some games without it then

[spice hornet]

it’s just more ST presssure vs. having another snall burst window that does some more aoe

I had one long game into a wizard team W keying one and I had 100M dam to one target, all others players all in 40M range

Mag had the non-odyn fury build listed in DF as well

[limber relic]

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my arena build rn