pvp

[wheat jay]

thats all we ever wanted

and blizz said no

we want ms to not hit too hard unbuffed, but to nuke someone's pc from across the ocean if we hit a buffed one

and blizz said no

in legion we could get like 300% bonus dmg on ms and guaranteed crit

😦

[hearty vault]

arms design is ugly

[wheat jay]

nah

its actually decent now

[static knoll]

What’s wrong with arms

Damage is fine ime

Spread rend and cleave, big dam!

[wheat jay]

no lol

[rancid granite]

blizz said here's demolish youll whiff it 24/7 though

[wheat jay]

stun before?

[rancid granite]

B tier is F tier to pvp nerfs

nerds

• :D

[wheat jay]

like

no wonder motherfuckers miss demolish

WHEN THEY DONT STUN

STUNS EXIST

[hearty vault]

Arms... a lot of skills that just do dmg. no more effects (less overpower/mortal). And we have to waste gcd to keep slowling...

[rancid granite]

stun is the goal yeah but

[wheat jay]

so, same as fury?

[rancid granite]

sometimes it just dont work out

[hearty vault]

fury has less skills, and their skill improve other ones and heal yourself :S

[wheat jay]

so, same as arms

[hearty vault]

slam, wirldwind, rend... only dmg. No more effects

well, rend is a bleed. it's right

[static knoll]

Is ww worth pressing in 2 target cleave? Surely not

I don’t even have it on my bars 🫢

[lavish quest]

MS better hit for 6 mil, or Arms

[hearty vault]

do u think will change warrior arms/fury to 11.1? like did with paladin, shaman, etc

[low cobalt]

They will it was confirmed

[hearty vault]

didnt know, thanks XD

[low cobalt]

My 2 dads work at blizzard

[tribal holly]

[hearty vault]

oooh! I am asking about any blizzard post or something that I didnt read 😆

[tribal holly]

They are memeing

[hearty vault]

memeing? why? John Blizzard is a good name

[tribal holly]

Its pointless to speculate things so far out of reach when the season has barely started

[hearty vault]

true, true. But I am not checking all blizzard posts, then I dont know about what are they doing

[tribal holly]

I know because my dad is the ceo and he fired them so they dont know patch things anymore

[hearty vault]

poor John Blizzard

he got fired

[tribal holly]

Its Yin Blizzard now John is old news

[hearty vault]

Why Yin?

[violet fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-talking-gif-18386311432989714002

[hearty vault]

oooh, thanks

[weak marsh]

What is furys offpiece ?

[urban skiff]

that rating change tho

he was sooo close to 1800 and now he's 100 under

[urban skiff]

idk chestlol?

[copper fox]

Haha rip

[urban skiff]

reminds me of this post on reddit

@fickle forge Should i be running BG3 with DLDSR+DLAA or just DLAA?

[fickle forge]

What

[urban skiff]

Oh sorry, i totally forgot where I am

[crimson onyx]

So what pieces are ppl buying this week?

[urban skiff]

As a fury warrior, should i be running BG3 with DLDSR+DLAA or just DLAA?

[crimson onyx]

Or just saving up for next week?

[urban skiff]

[copper fox]

@fickle forge should I be running lucky pants with malfeasance?

[stuck mulch]

hows the nerfs feelin bois

[lyric violet]

what we buying this week

the real question

[kind sentinel]

Pressing disarm on demolish is actually a war crime

[minor vector]

unplayable definitely swap something else

[lyric violet]

with tokens and conquest?

-3% Its so over.

[orchid badge]

im playing prot in blitz

[stuck mulch]

nasty

[orchid badge]

its honestly fun 😄 i even got a knockback

[shut niche]

They nerfed the 2hs out of your hands damn

[hallow tiger]

Any updates from Magnusz about what to buy?

[orchid badge]

ofc stats matter in an rpg 😄

[violet fossil]

just follow what he buys

[urban skiff]

your bis is already determined and your gearing process is deterministic

literally just go find your shortest route

I'm dumb as a rock and i can do it

[trail hamlet]

random, but anyone else notice something weird with target dummies?

My MS does ~355k on average with deep wounds on them. I'll single use an Overpower and takes it to ~460k. But if I 2x OP, it sometimes hits for 355k again

[urban skiff]

target dummies do not have versatility and often they also have the wrong armor values

Wouldn't surprise me if a host of other things are also wrong with them

[chilly pivot]

did u find some better build afther nerf or we stay same?

[urban skiff]

nobody knows, nothing matters, just go out and try. See what works and report back so we can build community concensus

It's the boring answer, but the only one for people who aren't satisfied with status quo

[chilly pivot]

haha agree

[boreal veldt]

i've noticed mages holding their dragons breath against my colossus

just praying i use demolish

[urban skiff]

That's my experience as well as prot

I get significantly better uptime because everybody is holding something in case i demolish

meanwhile pumping 1m shieldslams into a caster with instant cd reset

[boreal veldt]

it's nice watching players not use buttons in fear of a sometimes ok button

[urban skiff]

that's a nice way to put it

[boreal veldt]

that last hit of demo is an aoe right? i thought i saw it hit a rog through evasion last night

[pure hornet]

What is magnus follow up for this week? Conquest items /blood tokens buy??

[worthy fern]

I’m wondering if colossus is worth taking just for the 50 percent increased op dmg

And extra rend and dw dmg

Just never press the button and sit at max stance

Stacks

[pure hornet]

You think mastery dump is bad? Afther 39%? So we dont get diminish returns stats, ballance with vers/haste

[boreal veldt]

the idea atm is

Sit 10 stack as long as you can.
Keep bleeds up.
Play Arms/Prot normal rotation.
Demo only if it's guaranteed.

[urban skiff]

that's not how mastery works

[pure hornet]

Mast has no diminish return in pvp? Afther 39%?

[worthy fern]

@boreal veldt do you think that’s winning out over slayer strikes

[urban skiff]

mastery diminishing returns isn't based on % but raw rating

same as the other stats, they just happen to have the same rating

[worthy fern]

Also do you like the additional second wind or extra IP healing

[pure hornet]

Raw i have 10 k
Mud is 12
Braxim 14k
So no worries for diminish?

[boreal veldt]

I think it's pretty even but slayer is probably ahead by a margin.

[urban skiff]

no. Diminishing returns starts at like 20k rating iirc

People were barely hitting DR at the end of DF, this is absolutely not a problem in S1 ever

[boreal veldt]

I like second wind over IP since ip is nerfed, but in longer arenas IP probably wins out

[azure inlet]

guys did they buff mortal strike?

[lucid walrus]

veteran vitality sucks

[azure inlet]

stealth buff?

[lucid walrus]

i've been playing big IP for a while

[azure inlet]

i'm hitting way harder suddenly

[worthy fern]

@lucid walrus I haven’t touched colloshs much why does it shock

Suck

[urban skiff]

19796 rating to be exact

[worthy fern]

12 percent isn’t a lot I guess

[ripe atlas]

Whats better for solo que? Arms or Fury?

arena

[lucid walrus]

the % it heals for isn't big even before mortal strike effects and games aren't very long so you're getting like 1-2 uses per

[azure inlet]

was trying colossus in random bgs it kinda hurts now

sure not a million hitter but

[boreal veldt]

the whole hero class is just a bunch of modifiers and one bonk button you rarely press, so no one likes it

[lucid walrus]

IP is a huge chunk of my healing as arms by comparison

i've been playing spear demolish build since last week and it kind of owns

[chilly pivot]

i saw that now i buy wrong legs at 1600 last week xd

[worthy fern]

I might check it out a bit

[pure hornet]

How you know exact number..?

[worthy fern]

Slayer strikes are like roughly 8-10 percent damage I think

[azure inlet]

honestly dont expect to line demolish

[lucid walrus]

taking long shockwave should buy you just enough time to get a demo off

[azure inlet]

you got 10 stack just land it

[urban skiff]

how do you not?

[azure inlet]

at least you dont hope 3m hit, miss and cry lol

[pure hornet]

I am war..we are dumb remeber?

[lucid walrus]

honestly one of demo's bigger issues is it stuns you if your target pops an immunity

[boreal veldt]

the trade off is all warrior players are jacked and handsome

[urban skiff]

immunity for a 45 sec cd on an ability we don't expect to hit anyways seems like a good trade

[pure hornet]

True that

[lucid walrus]

comes out to like 30 seconds if you sweep well

it's pretty solid but the interaction just feels bad while it tries to finish the cast

[boreal veldt]

you can charge/intervene/leap out of the cast though

[orchid badge]

dced in blitz, dced again when i log back in

log in and now im in dornogal :S

what a joke

-200

[stark vortex]

😭

[urban skiff]

I use a castsquence and always leap on the final hit to confuse them

[boreal veldt]

reported for being a menace

a rapscallion even

[urban skiff]

Combine with stun on leap talent

Worldofpvp losing their collective shit over feral druids now. Are we pushing assa or feral for the fotm'ers who don't lift?

[stuck mulch]

Im going feral alt right now

[boreal veldt]

mmm thats a tossup, i'd say vegas odds on feral

well... idk

yeah feral, final answer

[urban skiff]

I think feral is easier to sell by saying convoke oneshot macro

[torn sigil]

Feral is kinda nutty tbh

[rancid granite]

why would you ever go there...be kind to yourself and stay away

[urban skiff]

That's the spirit

[rancid granite]

awful place it's just an echo chamber of unstable people

[urban skiff]

ABSF: Always be selling Feral

[urban skiff]

they need supervision and I'm dumb

it's a match made in heaven

[obtuse oracle]

so u cant get weapon from quest this week right

conquest

[worthy fern]

I wonder if it’s worth playing spiteful serenity rn since you have no uptime on anything anyways

I have like 40 percent haste with csmash up rn

[lucid walrus]

WB is only like 20% now. it's an interesting thought

[worthy fern]

it goes 30 > 18

is it nerfed in pvp?

oof

it is

so 20 to 12

[lucid walrus]

same goes for avatar

[worthy fern]

for 23 seconds and you get teh haste for that whole duration

[lucid walrus]

20 --> 12

[worthy fern]

avatar is actually only 9 lmao

with spiteful

[lucid walrus]

is 23 seconds with warbreaker or blunt instruments?

oh damn. that hurts

[worthy fern]

40 seconds though

im using blunt

[main mason]

So If i followed pinned buying guide here, what do i buy next?

[worthy fern]

prob sucks but ill test in a shuff now

[rancid granite]

did you get your custom made helmet they give to everyone who goes there

[urban skiff]

No. Theyse says my face is too purdy

[rancid granite]

ok simple jack

[steep cairn]

You can’t buy a new piece with bloody tokens until next week if you got the bracers and belt last week fwiw. As for spending conquest, anything but trinkets maybe?

[rancid granite]

question is if we shootin for tier set or not right?

[worthy fern]

@lucid walrus was really fun to play and dmg felt good

Was tough to test cause one healer went 0-6

[lucid walrus]

lmao. alright, i'll try it then

you can probably put some real numbers up with bleeds if you have to sit on 10 colossal might stacks

[worthy fern]

I was playing slayer but that’s a thought

[lucid walrus]

the long con

[urban skiff]

imagine when blizzard inevitably accidentally buff skullsplitter in some way that makes arms 1-shot people but not with demolish

[worthy fern]

My Deep wounds dmg seemed high so maybe that’s a play

[lucid walrus]

it honestly might not be bad even now

[rancid granite]

@urban skiff got paired with you the first match i went in lmao

[urban skiff]

lmao

how'd he get my name

[copper fox]

Welp. Pack it up men. Fury about to get another nerf probably

Anyone who’s specs out of fury after the nerfs is fake

[urban skiff]

what kind of steroids did they put into enh

[lyric violet]

idk i have an 80 sham with ele gear of course rofl

need to get the enhance gear

[zenith marlin]

not hunters with 3 dps specs, all mid

[verbal ember]

Hey guys. In what order are you spending your conquest points as arms?

[lyric violet]

also is odysn fury build not it anymore? i see mag is playing execute and reck talents

[urban skiff]

saving up all my points so i can look really great

[lyric violet]

there a pin for the order to get stuff

[verbal ember]

Im a noob. How do I find the pin

thanks a lot

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm curse definitely broken now

[verbal ember]

saved me a couple of hours I think

[stuck mulch]

dats not warrior gear or poop color 🍣

[lyric violet]

is see people going haste verse as fury now?

[small silo]

has anyone else run into the issue where your rating isnt changing in BGB says 1 game played and ive played about 8 now and still says 1 game played

[tribal wedge]

I do, but just because i anticipe an arms swap

[lofty rampart]

what embellishment would you guys run in pvp for a weapon. Arms warrior btw

[urban skiff]

it's not so bad. Whether you get 15% mastery or 15% haste is the same, just swap using powerful/frenzied enrage talent to compensate

[orchid valve]

do earthen benefit from their "well fed" racial inside arenas? 🤔

[urban skiff]

their pvp racial is drinking water in shuffle

nobody else can do that

secret protip:

People are using DF enchants for offhand, like sophic

[plush portal]

Fury prio craft for pvp?

[cinder thorn]

wtf is this man 12min+ queues for 1 match this is so annoying

then it puts you in 2mins wait for start of match

if it pops

and its start of expansion

isnt it meant to pop a lot now with lots of players online

[low cobalt]

Lots of players online who like to PvP *?

Lots of players online who like to PvP as a healer *

[cinder thorn]

yes but this is offputting, I only have limited time to play every day and its mostly spent waiting for a pop

instead of playing

also - if healing was fun I would do it

monk can heal while doing damage but its pretty trash

im a warrior at heart I just cant play other roles and enjoy them

also it doesnt make sense that it was popping faster right at the end of DF then the start of TWW

I remember it being 5mins max

look I been 28mins in queue and no pop

[safe sedge]

someone can share the best talents for fury pvp

?

[rancid granite]

sub rogue so much fun

[deep epoch]

Solo rated BG so hit and miss. Went 7-0 last night then 0-6 right after. Blizzard balancing.

[edgy escarp]

hey guys, any tips on what to pick when i drop Odyn's fury?

[lavish quest]

Frost mage

[lyric violet]

area52 sucks Lol

[cyan walrus]

I'm new to war and fury. What's the deal with enchanting off hand?

[fossil mortar]

It enchants the offhand

Only weap dps stat is halfed, not the rest, so ya don't worry about mainhand Vs offhand beyond having highest ilvl in mainhand

[cyan walrus]

So you want two of the same enchant then?

[low cobalt]

i have the exact same experience and viewpoint lol i dont have time to play mutli-hours in a day. I will say though the time of day matters. Most wow players, afaik, are older and have jobs so during the day at least here in US its slow af but around after dinner its much faster

but yea i completely agree the q times are too long sometimes, but thats just the reality of this game sadly

[obsidian loom]

fury still meta?

[copper fox]

I just got my shit ripped open in 3s as fury

I feel so squishy

[magic bloom]

whats the move once we have 2 piece and our crafted gear? Save for a tier piece?

[copper fox]

Ended @ 1900 mmr just getting run thru by wws lol

I personally didn’t buy anything this week

[violet fossil]

it went down to c tier

[copper fox]

Saving

[polar whale]

how many pieces of tier do we use?

[copper fox]

C tier is a stretch lol

[violet fossil]

d tier

[copper fox]

True

Hold strong

[violet fossil]

f tier

[copper fox]

Just play with a dk you’re fine

[violet fossil]

the nerfs weren’t that big lol

[copper fox]

Yea it’s fine

[violet fossil]

yall still s tier instead of sss

[obsidian loom]

Is arms better now?

[violet fossil]

Jesus

Prot is actually doing way better than either

[urban skiff]

Truth

[obsidian loom]

time to prot

glad chads our time is here

[thick reef]

any sexy crafters on US that can craft Algari Competitors Plate Pauldrons/Sabatons TIPPING BIG

[elfin sinew]

Mate .. I had the same experience yesterday after reset. 3 games and everything was melting my ass. Hunters literally 2-3 tap me and I have to pop all I have to stay alive. Healers are sweating balls - I don’t know what’s going on. I also feel like fury slayer completely lost the juice. I’ve seen people testing mountain thane or even arms because of this

Either blizz overdid it for some classes damage wise or we got some nasty nerf to defense even though we use PLATE armor

[spice hornet]

Most teams will go fury

[elfin sinew]

Time to play PvE then ❌

[pure hornet]

Why?

I tought to recraft conquest ring with heraldry but i think i save for next week for chest conq/shoulders blood token

[urban skiff]

The log is literally there. You know exactly what was changed.

In arenas good teams stresstest targets and if you appear like you buckle under pressure then they apply full pressure.

[thick reef]

Frost mages doing cracked dam atm or am I just fried?

[thick reef]

Nah I didn’t see nothing

[knotty atlas]

[orchid badge]

im having a blast playing prot in blitz

just gotta figure out some strategies for the new bad bgs

[frail prairie]

Hi warrior mates, anony has good talent choice for arms pvp ?

[urban skiff]

Brothers, another glorious day awaits!

Remember to ABSF. Always Be Selling Feral.

[orchid badge]

is leech any good? i dont like all these speed encahnts we are putting on..

[vapid tartan]

speed better

[fickle forge]

Go speed

[orchid badge]

in what situation are you happy to have speed?

[vapid tartan]

all of them

[elfin sinew]

as warrior, you can't get enough speed haha

[orchid badge]

youre running away from people

[fickle forge]

All

Literally always

You're always moving

[earnest hearth]

you run at them

not away

[copper fox]

Can ele damage even be stopped I feel like sitting ele does nothing

Damage gets out regardless

[orchid badge]

i think some of you guys are running away

from frostmages and feraldruids especially

[fickle forge]

No

You feed them damage by hitting them even

[fickle forge]

🎣

[copper fox]

DAMN dude I had a feeling

[elfin surge]

played double bladestorm with brutal finish and odyns yesterday felt pretty good ngl

@fickle forge thoughts?

[fickle forge]

Double storm seems good

[elfin surge]

4 bladestorms in 1:20 game

[copper fox]

I need to try that

[worthy fern]

I love feeling like I can’t intervene someone without parry

I feel like my dmg is decent as arms but I do not feel tanky at all

[elfin sinew]

because we are not tanky, ironically

[worthy fern]

I’d take defensive buffs for arms and be really happy, cause I’m blasting with uptime

Like average dmg and the ability to save my team like in slands would be sick

It’s crazy cause we gained extra healing since then

[stone sentinel]

sooo we still play odyn fury ?

[stone sentinel]

CALLED IT

[elfin surge]

bruh you know its bad when im trying spear again

(useless ability never playing it again)

[normal sierra]

I hate it

feels garbo to use

[elfin surge]

does less damage than my auto attacks

[fickle forge]

Mud out here dooming once again

The 3% nerf destroyed his mental

[stone sentinel]

how about survability when 2 bladestorm no more BT during wall

[elfin surge]

survivability as shit as always its fury everything attacks you

[fickle forge]

You rank 1 yet? @elfin surge

[stone sentinel]

I think he is trying to bait us

[fickle forge]

Ah nevermind man, Mud is just 2.2k cr right now, warrior is dead honestly

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

There's so much fucking feral, affli, UDK and MM in T100 what the fuck

[elfin surge]

MM frost dev so broken

[fickle forge]

It's your prime time to Q kitty cleave with disc priest dude

[elfin surge]

kap

qn tsg

[fickle forge]

Literally 3 good af specs right now lmao

[abstract wagon]

Anyone have a good talent build for fury pvp? Just looking to do random epic bgs so nothing too serious, I’ve been using m+ talents so far since it has storm bolt shockwave and aoe but not sure if there’s anything better

[fickle forge]

Bro we got Mudslap here now to keep Mud in line

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-chappelle-show-dave-chappelle-gif-13886884020245664410

@elfin surge

[proud breach]

mud-slap skill when

[stone sentinel]

guys guys authority of the depths or radiant power ?

[elfin surge]

[abstract wagon]

[urban skiff]

Play enh, get big auto attack lol

[elfin sinew]

I have both

[stone sentinel]

Yeah but waiting the weapon from quest for second took depths first

[elfin sinew]

check the big dogs here https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/solo

[stone sentinel]

yeah im doing that

[fierce bane]

is dracthyr a good race for warriors?

[pure hornet]

The best, if you pve lvl 1 quests

Tough if you aint over 2 k rating race does not matter.

[orchid badge]

im not paying 20k for no damn ring enchant

[pure hornet]

20 k is like 1 hour farm
Honor

Seel vicious bloodstone-boom

[orchid badge]

true..

[pure hornet]

Full ench/ embelish/ gems is nothing to sneeze at

But if no gems enchants race etc, than those 2-3% of each add up

Combined with not so pro play’…. You wonder why all raape you
I know people with full stuff that have it hard cuz of mage, dev…

With no gear/ ench… you are just fun play for them

[stone sentinel]

btw should we start to buy ring and neck ?

or maybe craft it ?

[pure hornet]

I am keeping conq and bloods this week

[thick reef]

^

[pure hornet]

For chest/shoulders

[thick reef]

if ur arms and following magnus and have hit 1600 you should have ur 2-set with helm and legs

[stone sentinel]

u will use catalyst on a blood gear ?

[thick reef]

no

[pure hornet]

Craft mast vers rings but honor not conq

[stone sentinel]

I have my 2p

But ok I will save conquest then

sooo what are u doing with the blood shoulder david ?

[pure hornet]

Buy belt wrist
Soket both

[stone sentinel]

yeah done aswell

[pure hornet]

Read magnus advice. Easy cr

[stone sentinel]

im asking what U are doing with the shoulder blood

[pure hornet]

Yes
And conq chest

Chest is biggest stats i think

[stone sentinel]

its like an off set piece ?

[pure hornet]

We dont do more than 2 set piece this season

[stone sentinel]

Oh rly ?

[pure hornet]

Soket 9 gems if you can
But now is too early to matter

[stone sentinel]

K will save for blood shoulder then

[pure hornet]

And run 2v2
I always find easy healer and play as many games you can
You get experience

Last season i got 2 k
This season easy 2.2 i think

Just practice

All there is to it

Solo q is 30 mins wait tine

In 2’s you find instantly

Create game with description: “ big dps lf healer”

And accept healers under you with 3-400 cr

Just play many games
Experience comes
As warrior anyone can climb 1.8-2 k
Maibe even 2.1

I am complete idiot and got high
Never tought i ever cross 1.7

Plus no matter what anyone sayz warr is sleeper class

[orchid badge]

manzen is 2100 as prot

in 3v3

[pure hornet]

Howww

[orchid badge]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/frostwhisper/manzin

just a chad i guess

[pure hornet]

Prot is even a consideration..

Tough i heard frost mages run from prots

Xaryu got run down by a prot in open world. I just cant find the vid

[thick reef]

what do you guys think is gonna be easier to push to 1950 rn, solo shuffle or 2s?

just wanna get me enchant

keep getting hard stuck at 1900 solo shuffle like a noobaki

[pure hornet]

2’s

[thick reef]

yea im considering it

[pure hornet]

By farrrr

Plus i play 2’s like 40-50 matches a day

Gets you experience

In solo shuffle you play like 4-5 a day then your gf calls for face paint

[stone sentinel]

is there a diff reward between 2k solo shuffle or 2k 2s ?

[thick reef]

just keep having them 3-3 games

gets annoying

[thick reef]

all the same rewards besides 3s you can get the glad mount for the season if you win 50 games above 2400 i think

[pure hornet]

No
But try get 2.1 k
In 2’s or even shuffle

Gets you weapon skin and its pretty high for noobs like us

[stone sentinel]

will do that ty

[hot solstice]

how many bloody tokens per week?

[stone sentinel]

Like 600

[cyan sluice]

2.1k is elite weapons now? Not 2400?

[lavish quest]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Jyy45pqyLjE

[orchid badge]

bajheera is one of the warrior chads

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LPYTQxOJV6Q

[fair surge]

hey, anyone have good dr tracker for the base ui? sth that would go on the base arena frames would be lovely 🙂

[fierce elm]

WE BACK FROM THE BAN

[fierce elm]

There should be some weakauras

but I am unsure

most tend to just grab gladius or something because it gives more information than just DRs

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge play full haste slayer arms with spiteful serenity

[orchid badge]

i got yelled at for being prot in blitz........

[worthy fern]

Good

Deserved

[weak marsh]

Any1 got good plater profile?

[verbal ember]

How do I change embellishment on my wep?

[orchid badge]

recrafting order right?

[verbal ember]

yeah how make?

[boreal veldt]

put in a recrafting order with new embellishment, nearly the same way you did it the first time

[verbal ember]

Can I only recreaft for personal?

[fierce elm]

yes

[verbal ember]

Damn. thanks

[stone sentinel]

ah yeah shuffle

[storm ledge]

what commision do you pay on a public order if you bring all mats yourself?

[fierce elm]

like 500-2k

depends on how baller you are

[wheat jay]

cheapo

[fierce elm]

tipped 5k on a recraft because fuck it

never hurts to know people

[verbal ember]

just faced an ench, ele, and resto shaman in SS lol

[shut stone]

which pieces best to craft with conquest?

[warm pollen]

420g 69s

or 1337g if youre generous

unless its a rare recipe that costs a lot or takes time to grind, then i pay more

if youre requiring tier 5 quality then they might need to use concentration so if you dont tip well you might have to wait a while

[cinder thorn]

I'm thinking to quit because of queue times

[fierce elm]

😢

[stone sentinel]

Ngl this is kinda stupid they should give glad mount at 2k4 maybe it will motivate some players

[fierce elm]

they should just give us everything

who cares amirite

[stone sentinel]

Kinda yeah shuffle cant stay on this state

50m queue is unhealthy for pvp

[fierce elm]

it do be like that sometimes

[violet fossil]

Jesus Christ

[fierce elm]

You cant escape it in a gamemode that recieves 0 attention

[violet fossil]

Thought i was in the mage discord with the amount of BITCHIN going on

[cinder thorn]

It was popping for me every 5min in end of DF when everyone stopped playing

Now with more people playing its taking 50mins totally ridiculous

[fierce elm]

also that lmao

nobody is stopping you from quitting

[stone sentinel]

Thats my point it receive 0 attention because it has 0 appealing rewards

[fierce elm]

but your ADDICTION

[violet fossil]

idk ques were still long

not 5 mins

[fierce elm]

it receives 0 attention because nobody gives a fuck about pvp lmao

its not due to the rewards entirely

now we can discuss this to no end and have no end in sight

[violet fossil]

it’d all about blitz now

it’s

[fierce elm]

or we can stop treating this like its the pvp forums and we need to be crybabies, either you are playing or you aint lmao

If the queue times aren't motivating, then stop, nobody is forcing you

If they aren't, keep queueing, nobody cares

the neat part about solo shuffle queue is that I can do other shit during it

[stone sentinel]

Yeah I mean just keep the pvp in a dead state amirite

[fierce elm]

Now, if you want to lower that, obviously queueing when a lot of people queue are optimal

I mean they clearly don't give a fuck and you arent going to change shit lmao

All you are doing is complaining into nothingness

[violet fossil]

also if you play a popular spec, ques are gonna be long

[fierce elm]

also that

So, queue an unpopular spec or a healer at peak times and you will get fast queues, have fun

[violet fossil]

which i imagine most are playing fury

[fierce elm]

From the random spec one shot me rants to this lmao relax

You can always not play

[stone sentinel]

Im queuing as resto but I want to shuffle with my war aswell 😦

[fierce elm]

and thats fair

Im gonna play regardless of how dead the queues get

because I enjoy the game and figure queue time I can do other shit I have to do

[cinder thorn]

Alright I'll queue prot since that's unpopular for fast queue times

[fierce elm]

pretty sure prot should have fast queue times lmao

[orchid badge]

wtf is up with the mathcmaking? i lose vs a team thats 200 higher, and now i win vs a team thats 300 lower. neither is fun

[fierce elm]

can you elaborate a little bit

[orchid badge]

bg blitz

[fierce elm]

are we talking CR, MMR, what bracket, how many games have you done

what rating are we talking abut, what mmr are we talking about

[orchid badge]

it lists both teams matchmaking value

[cinder thorn]

Randomness factor in blitz is higher than arena

[fierce elm]

also randomness

it happens in blitz

[orchid badge]

im 1500 i think, team was 1700, enemy team 1900

[fierce elm]

it happens in shuffle too

[orchid badge]

now i got a 1700 team, enemy was 1400

[violet fossil]

seems like

[orchid badge]

just seems like it could balance the teams better

[fierce elm]

also pretty sure the matchmaking rating it says is just your CR

[violet fossil]

It wants you to win

to go up

[fierce elm]

I would expect differences at that rating tbh

in that range

[cinder thorn]

Arms queue says 13, Fury 14min

[fierce elm]

makes sense

[violet fossil]

Average porn video is about 20 mins so you got time

[cinder thorn]

Prot...

13mins wtf

[violet fossil]

those ques aren’t that bad lol

[warped stump]

What you guys doing week 2 just holding Conquest for Chest?

[orchid badge]

i just hope blizzard blesses me with strong teammates so i can climb quickly

[cinder thorn]

No that's what it says now

Yesterday I was queued for 50mins after it said that

[shut niche]

be the strong teammate you need

[violet fossil]

You’d just reque

If it goes over

[orchid badge]

yes im very strong in bgs

"Grand marshal" it says

[rancid granite]

they give us so much; but... what about what they dont give us? those bastards

[rose wedge]

Arms and fury pretty close?

[vale mango]

Fury >

[rancid granite]

S tier vs B+ tier

not huge diff

[violet fossil]

fury is s tier down from sss tier

[fierce elm]

About as close to Chocolate and poop

same color, different taste

[vale mango]

i liked being SSS Tier tho from like one of those asian games

[orchid badge]

what achievments are u guys going for in pvp

any justicar andys?

[spice hornet]

people had that title in like tbc kekw

[thick reef]

whats ur rating for a 50min que time? thats nuts

i havent had a single que go for more than 30 mins

[stone sentinel]

Just started thats why i was going banana

I played blitz mostly to gear my self before going shuffle

[thick reef]

i was gettin 20/30 min max when i started queing

guess just unlucky

with the ques

[stone sentinel]

I guess

[cinder thorn]

what u getting now

I been queued for 12min on arms no pop

[thick reef]

about 15 mins on fury

on avg

arms was abit longer but thats coz just i started queing up

[orchid badge]

it takes 4 seconds to cap a base in blitz and DH has a 4.5 second stun btw

[cinder thorn]

its stupid how favoured some classes are in blitz

[rancid granite]

just gotta play to your role really

[narrow compass]

Two questions

• are Pres Evokers ever gonna get nerfed? I hate them.

• any suggestions for cleaving against double melee as Fury? Which talents are mandatory? I’m so used to arms Sweeping Strikes…the DK I play with is like “LOLPASSIVECLEAVE” and I’m like “ooof”.

[thick reef]

"my pig milk brings all the dads to the barn"

[wheat jay]

dont you have 5 or 6s fear?

👍

[orchid badge]

whats the strategy in deepwind gorge?

i fight / defend my base, look up at scoreboard and enemy is 200 pts ahead

what do?

that happened 5 games in a row now

blitz btw

[frail badge]

are devestaion dps op as fuck? i get get by over 1mill with eterity surge and every one of there abilitys seems to hit hard

[orchid badge]

its a hero class

[frail badge]

so is dh and dk, are they that op also? i dont know

[wheat jay]

dk kinda is

dh is far from it

might change in 11.0.5 or sth

cuz their bugs get fixed

and apparently they add some decent dmg

[frail badge]

is fury warrior considerd good right now? what about hunter?

and thanks

[copper fox]

lol

Fury is good yea

Hunter is good

[frail badge]

ok thanks i ask becuase hunter is my alt

[thick reef]

be a cool kid and play arms

[wheat jay]

and be -d tier

[frail badge]

the evoker looks like fun but i have a hard time dealing with the fact you cant show transmog in dragon form

and your always in dragon form in combat

[chilly pivot]

nice i buy the heroic ones so its not scaling for pvp...

[violet fossil]

yeah you should double check /:

[fickle forge]

Average fury warr IQ

[fierce elm]

lmao rolled

[wheat jay]

lmao

get fukd

[copper fox]

Lmfao earned that tbh

[lavish quest]

Better for pve tho. Poggers

[stone sentinel]

u wont feel the diff against frost mage use it

🙂

[shrewd blaze]

thank you brother for making this mistake so that went I went to buy my pants I was more careful

also...has anyone else had really long queues with bg blitz? like going way over the estimated time?

[rancid granite]

5min q's rarely going to 10mins

[urban skiff]

love how wonky blitz season start has been

27% win rate

[rancid granite]

man on my warrior i got 1600 np, but on my rogue

im like stuck at 1500

[hot solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[rancid granite]

+10, then 5 loses at -5

so i hover 1500

😭

[urban skiff]

kind of hoping I'm just far enough below 1500 I'll punch right through 1600 on my next win

get my 2set and start melting people with stormstrike

[rancid granite]

yeah i dont mind the mmr and being 'stuck' but i want my damn set piece first lmao

gonna start solo shuffling to 1600 i can do that fine

[urban skiff]

truth. I want my mog and my tier so I can relax and just play without caring where I end up

[rancid granite]

yeah same

[urban skiff]

if i was smarter I'd make a weakaura that covers all ratings so I can't know how I'm doing

[rancid granite]

time for solo shuffle as well

until you get stuck then maybe 2s or 3s

[urban skiff]

I hear people going between blitz and shuffle

to eliminate queues

[rancid granite]

yeah Q same time

[urban skiff]

oh yeah, i should start crafting and spending my conq/tokens

Would be embarassing to make it into top50 and not have good gear

[rancid granite]

im still holding out cause im not sure if i wanna gear my warr or rogue

cause everything so expensive

can only do 1 for a bit

wow tokens not enough gold to entice me

[lucid walrus]

gathering between shuff queues and sniping mats off crafting orders with resourcefulness helped a lot with gearing main in my experience

[rancid granite]

thats true and good options

im always doing rl stuff in queues though i guess

[brazen cedar]

Have exactly same issue. Win 4 gain 3mmr win 3 lose 33

[narrow compass]

you gotta know when to stop Q'ing...

2 bad losses in a row and I'm done for the night

[rancid granite]

i mean i still wanna pvp and get better and i have fun lol

but my TIER SET

[narrow compass]

hop into Solo, 3's, 2's etc.

[rancid granite]

yeah ima try solo for a bit to change up the pace

[narrow compass]

Maybe theres a pattern with those consecutive losses...

good players Q'ing against you at that time

bad players Q'ing with you

(as in getting into the BGs, not saying they actually Q with you

[orchid badge]

yeah why am i getting 6 mmr for a win at 1500?

blizzards new algorithms

[copper fox]

Algorithm is fine

Win more you win more ya know

It rewards streaks

As it should

Win then lose and repeat you get neutral gains / loss

[slender wedge]

from now we just gotta buy the heraldrys

it was a one time quest with the x9?

[verbal tangle]

Yes, buy further ones

[slender wedge]

any pins for further assistance? 😄

got no clue what to prio, what to buy next etc, mainly going for the 1850 rbg for tmog but yeh xD

[orchid badge]

how do you find a rbg team

2.4k xp

[copper fox]

Armory Mud or Magnusz just copy then

[copper fox]

In game lfg

[narrow compass]

murlock.io

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/solo

https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/solo

[slender wedge]

ty guys ❤️

skillcapped not a thing anymore?

[chilly pivot]

why did not ppl run the use trinket to timing it with ur burst cooldowns?

[verbal tangle]

Because the proc one can give you burst damage outside of your windows

[near inlet]

Arms critic/verse or mastery/verse?

[orchid badge]

what about prot guide......

[verbal tangle]

Go look at Dabdaddy's profile

[narrow compass]

It is. and it's solid, but they dont go over gear in-depth, if at all.

[slender wedge]

alright

i guess this week is more about crafting 626 honor pieces

we all saving up for another wep craft?

[orchid badge]

hes arms..

[copper fox]

Prot goes almost full haste I believe

[orchid badge]

yes but im mostly curious about talents atm

i saw rio using battle standard for arms btw

and prot guys are using the taunt talent, can give like 30% bonus damage in rbg 🙂

[clear pine]

what if war gets 6 sec immune where he still can attack? like pala or hunter

[chilly pivot]

can we only get [Forged Gladiator's Heraldry] from conquest this week?

[rancid granite]

what if they get neither? shatter their shield to pieces 💪

[slender wedge]

can u shatter turtle?

[urban skiff]

no

only iceblock and pala bubble

[slender wedge]

ye thought so

[urban skiff]

and that's 1600

[vapid tartan]

rbg is deader than dead

[urban skiff]

first you invent a time machine

[vapid tartan]

Kinda sad I miss rbg

[urban skiff]

I don't

I loved the gameplay, absolutely loathed everything about the players

[vapid tartan]

Peak blitz is shit compared to peak rbg

But ye I agree

Blitz let the bracket rot for too long

Blizz*

[urban skiff]

Literally bullying anyone over any minute error and so tight a community that nobody dared leave for fear of getting blacklisted

[vapid tartan]

ye the social aspect was fucked

But is it really worse than watching someone forget to recap their base

Or throwing an unloseable game it blitz

[urban skiff]

I should start target calling in blitz

It worked well in RBGs and was the reason they kept inviting me back

[vapid tartan]

I think if they made an easy to use voice chat for blitz it would be much better

Not the channel shit like now

[urban skiff]

they would make it harder to document abuse since it wouldn't show in the chat log

[vapid tartan]

Didn’t they have something for overwatch where they detected voice abuse or something

[urban skiff]

no clue

i stayed out of competitive overwatch to avoid the sweats

[vapid tartan]

I mean it’s blizz tbh no way they put effort into making it better

[urban skiff]

casual play is where it's at

[vapid tartan]

Yea I liked cs over it lmao

[chilly pivot]

is 4 set worth it in pvp?

[urban skiff]

if you're enh yes

[chilly pivot]

fury bro

[urban skiff]

if you're not then idk, maybe depending on your spec?

I think right now it's not worth it, but there's zero chance they won't buff set so save the catalyst and prep mentally

also still the odd chance that you'll see arms overtake fury with weird buffs and nerfs

[rancid granite]

wth you cant shatter turtle

bs

i dont even use the ability but thats lame

[narrow compass]

I ping.

half the time it works half the time 😉

[urban skiff]

that's what I'd do too. Ping on a specific sharpen blade macro

but target calling is also counting down so idk how to make that work without voice, unless i can reliably get leader/assist every time and people start reading raid warnings?

[cloud meadow]

what immune does hunter have like that

[narrow compass]

Target calling is ded 😦

unless we somehow put together premades

just 32 of us sitting in one big disc channel

and when our Q's pop, we disperse into separate channels based on what teams we are on.

😄

[orchid badge]

im surprised people are just happy to play blitz

[narrow compass]

I dont mind it TBH

[orchid badge]

a bad watered down version of rbgs with no coordination

no team comp

[wheat jay]

hunter cant attack tho?

[narrow compass]

i led RBG's in TWW and we got to 2K

it was so stressful

TC'ing AND Strat Calling AND having to find a Boomkin b/c they were basically mandatory.

[orchid badge]

leader shouldnt be tcing

and yes i had to find a boomkin with a pve trinket every time i lead rbg 😄

in mists

[narrow compass]

Trust me, I knew that.

But no one else in our group could TC

or Strat Call

[urban skiff]

what's a good amount of vers for s1?

is it really the more the better?

i remember in DF it was 25% vers minimum and then went up to 30% when we got further into seasons

How does Magnusz have 9 gems?

[verbal tangle]

Probably just buying rings/ammy

[urban skiff]

i thought crafted jewelry didn't come with sockets this time

I know we can put pve sockets in pvp gear but that's bound to be fixed soon

[verbal tangle]

You socket via the socketer in the honor crafter vendor

[urban skiff]

oh wait, we can do two sockets or?

a piece*

[verbal tangle]

2 for jewelry iirc

[urban skiff]

that explains why the top players are crafting jewelry

they can just recraft honor to conq when it's time

[verbal tangle]

Yeah jewelry is fucking insane noe

Yup

[urban skiff]

guess i'm spending 150k on sockets after this bg

[verbal tangle]

Ikr, my wallet is about to get fucked

[urban skiff]

think i'm fine

this is on my shaman

and i guess my warrior but i've parked it for now

[verbal tangle]

Teach me your ways

[urban skiff]

find pretty flower

ignore flower kill everything and wear their flesh

[verbal tangle]

Just killing shit?

[gusty zinc]

are people using conq mostly for heraldrys to craft gear right now?

[urban skiff]

skinning too

[urban skiff]

i think that's the play, with jewelry

i use tokens on tier pieces

5 heraldry on mainhand and buy 2x heraldry to make 2x jewelry

on shammy

fury just always behind

[verbal tangle]

Yeah, conq jewelry sounds fucking disgusting with the 2x sockets

[urban skiff]

downside with crafted jewelry is trading a ton of vers for other stats

i feel like my 23% vers is in the low end

[verbal tangle]

Idk, I've always been a proponent of "More Vers is Gooder"

[urban skiff]

nothing stopping me from buying conq jewelry instead of crafting

i just got a nagging feeling i'll regret it if i have to wait before i craft

[vapid tartan]

Rbgs were already watered down by df s4 lol

[shrewd otter]

Never thought I'd see this day

[fierce elm]

nerd

[urban skiff]

gz

[low cobalt]

as arms no less 👀 grats

[gleaming carbon]

did my first shuffle on warrior since last playing it in mop, i got absolutely focused and destroyed and ended 1/6. Any advice on staying alive and maintaining dps? Im not very good but can usually get above 2k in any bracket so im not that terrible

[shrewd otter]

Thanks guys 🙇‍♂️

[urban skiff]

everyone's gonna be running a train on you right now so get used to either being so aggressive they have to back off or find ways to back off until your healer finds his/her balance again

second option is good, first option is better. Combining the two is best

Man I'm just paralyzed right now. Completely impossible to choose between craft or buy conq jewelry

[cinder thorn]

I never craft, vers is best for pvp

Get conquest

[urban skiff]

for jewelry crafting enchanges 1% vers for 1% haste

but also gives me control over my stats so I can swap from haste to mastery on a whim

that has some value

[cinder thorn]

Shrug, up to you, for me I don't want the headache and dilemma I just gi for conquest and that's it

Zug zug

[urban skiff]

I'm famous

jordison if you're here then hi

[fierce elm]

the best thing about crafting is that you can slam two mastery+vers rings

[rancid granite]

did i hear something about re-crafting it later

i dont want to drop hella gold on stuff im going to replace in a week or 2

[fierce elm]

you can recraft

never get materials back though

[rancid granite]

it keeps the sockets/gems though?

[fierce elm]

from what I know yes

[copper fox]

@shrewd otter you been duo qing or solo

Imagine losing to this

[rancid granite]

maybe ill craft some rings and stuff then 🙏

[narrow compass]

How the heck did Magnus get so many Forged Glad Heraldrys? https://check-pvp.fr/us/Zul'jin/Magnuszx

[fierce elm]

you mean 10?

[narrow compass]

Rings

Gloves

[fierce elm]

are not gladiator heraldries

so yeah

so 10

[pastel fossil]

Anyone know of a good WA i can use to keep track of avatar and recklessnes cooldown like in this pic? also for sudden death procs, bloodthirst crit chance stack and rampage stacks

[narrow compass]

ah hm

[fierce elm]

they are basic honor ones

cost like 175 honor on vendor or something

[narrow compass]

Gotcha! thanks. Check PVP wasnt showing their iLvl

[fierce elm]

for 626

[narrow compass]

Would the honor versions be just fine then?

[fierce elm]

whoops shadowlands

[fierce elm]

https://wago.io/the-war-within-weakauras/classes/warrior/fury

[pastel fossil]

ty ^^

[narrow compass]

@fierce elm any suggestions for my next item? I bought 3 more of the Conq Trophys. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-GB/character/us/area-52/stastro

[fierce elm]

spend however you feel like at this point tbh

I personally would save this week

for big piece next week

[narrow compass]

I stupidly bought the 3 trophys, cant return them.

wont have enough for a 4th needed to craft gloves or shoulders.

[pastel fossil]

Problem is all of them is like a whole fkin UI xD, i rly just need for tracking a couple things. maybe i should just try to make them myself tbh

[fierce elm]

you could ask for some in #ui-addons-manager

if they have specific ones

you can aslo remove the ones you dont like from each of those

[pastel fossil]

ahh didnt see that channel, ty! 😄

[fierce elm]

and just keep the ones you like

then personalize them

[pastel fossil]

yep thats what i tried but weakaura is so confusing lol so it just gets messed up all the time

[strange nimbus]

Do warriors have an ability that gets them out of roots?

[nova trellis]

escape artist >_>

[narrow compass]

Avatar.

Bladestorm.

[strange nimbus]

they both clear roots?

[narrow compass]

Yes

[storm plank]

When you go down the stack of auras you can click on each one you don’t want, then click “load” and check “never” to hide it. You don’t have to mess with any other options or anything.

[rancid granite]

don't forget rallying cry with the talent

charge with the talent too

[narrow compass]

Is it me or does Fury feel much better in PVP than it does in PVE? Something about missing Onslaught I think.

Im like a 19yr Arms player thats only dabbled in fury but im playing it more than ever this expac

[rancid granite]

I was same with arms but fury always felt pve

but nowadays fury is great pvp too

arms is the spec that feels so odd in pve lol

[fierce kite]

How much vers/mastery do you aim for before getting some haste?

[verbal tangle]

You go full Vers/Mast unless you feel you need haste

Unless you are prot, then replace Mast w/ Haste

[hot solstice]

anyone haveing problem with enemy ROF and Defile not showing?

[fierce kite]

im new to this haha, I wouldnt know when/what that feeling is. Could you give me a rough sort of % to aim for?

[charred rock]

So is arms cooked in pvp and I should just accept the fury overlords?

[earnest hearth]

same but a common number ive seen is around 10-12% but you do hear "haste to taste"

[verbal tangle]

Arms is ass

[rancid granite]

arms is very viable and if you enjoy it play it

fury is A+ arms is B+

[charred rock]

The dichotomy of man lol

But Ty

[rancid granite]

well fury s / a+ tier but

b tier still legit

[charred rock]

Ya I think I will try it out and then I can always get another 2h I guess

I just always thought the 2 2h looked stupid

[rancid granite]

gotta get your mog game goin then

[fierce kite]

fair, ty. I didnt know about this murlock IO tbh, its great! much easier than looking on the ladder and going through the armory

[spice hornet]

No warr spec is S anymore

[charred rock]

Is the going gear to craft 1 2h sword?

[verbal tangle]

Yeah pve players ruined our spec

Agaib

[worthy fern]

@charred rock both specs pretty punishing in shuffle atm so beware of that

Feel way better in reg arenas

[trail hamlet]

man the sheer amount of people who dont play BGs to win or for objevtives, but then spam their top heals/dps at the end is crazy

[charred rock]

Ya I can see that

funny to nerf warrior and stuff while leaving Disc priest and dragon as actual heal gods lol

[stuck mulch]

first ever 6 win

[fossil mortar]

[stuck mulch]

maybe i should get more gear.. i still have just made the weapon

[charred rock]

how would ya say we are doing in bg blitz?

[stuck mulch]

good

i really like blitz

[charred rock]

nice nice

[fossil mortar]

Decent, we can't really kill healers solo, but we can be annoying for sure

Problem is, in my mind dying Vs 2 rogues, only killing one is just barely within that classification of decent

[charred rock]

as fury ya?

[fossil mortar]

Fury indeed

[tepid otter]

We exist to kill dks in bgb

And annoy warlocks

[fossil mortar]

All fun and games till a frostmage shows

[narrow compass]

Takes a R1 skill war to kill a Rival skill Pres

[urban skiff]

and enh is S+++ tier

[gaunt shuttle]

fury or arms for blitz ya think?

[urban skiff]

They're both good. Whichever you like more is going to be strongest for you

if you're brain dead then fury is very stronk

[jovial pollen]

guys how long does your solo shuffle queue takes?

just played my first and it took about 15

is this normal?

[thick reef]

yes this is normal

[urban skiff]

queue goes down as your pool of potential partners goes up

starting out fresh is a smaller pool since people climb ratings faster than they lose it

get your reps in

[jovial pollen]

thought no ranking would be the shortest queue

hope it gets like 3 minutes fast

but im feeling it wont

[thick reef]

no ranking is usually the longest in my experience

[jovial pollen]

also is it common to just get fkd by mages?

they just kite me all day

[mellow tulip]

Yeah mages are stupid

Anyone got evoker counters?

[dense herald]

Yea all you can do about them is complain and hope theyre bad

[vapid tartan]

cry, cc if dragonrage and no nulli, kick fire breath if playing with rdru, spam slow them if not playing unburdened flight

if they have a brain and are playing both those things ur kinda fucked

have to kill other dps or hope they suck at kiting

[storm ledge]

I love the 'just wing it' vibe for fury 😅

[thorny lily]

What's everyone doing with their Bloody Tokens and Conquest week 2 if you followed Magnusz week 1?
Looks like not enough tokens to buy anything
Conq you can buy Ring or Neck, so maybe save it?

[mellow tulip]

The PVP cap is laughable, why do they cap it so hard so early

No PVP catalyst and they cap us like this

[gritty moth]

We can only use 1 Enduring Bloodstone right? Everything else is Masterful Sapphire for Fury?

[urban skiff]

To make it challenging. Judging by the incredible volume of people asking here what to buy next i'd say it's working perfectly

[shrewd otter]

only solo

[lavish quest]

Because otherwise we'd be geard in 2 weeks. They kinda want stuff to last longer than that

[cinder thorn]

it sux I rather get fully geared and face other equally geared people than be beaten simply because someone played more than/spent more than me

[fierce elm]

If you get beaten by someone having a neck more than you in gear you would get beaten anyways

Especially when it takes about 0 games to cap

[jovial loom]

Anyone using a Warrior crit build? I hope in an arms spec

[proud breach]

lol

[hot solstice]

Is anyone having problem with enemys dk defile not showing?

same with mage rof...can only see it after cast was done

[cinder thorn]

guys, I just solod 2 mages in rated BG 😄

[thick reef]

Is arms or fury better in pvp?

MY arena partner seems to die just way to easy,im surv hunter

[rancid granite]

s tier vs b+ tier

fury s arms b+

[wheat jay]

Oh my god do you play kfc to ask that question?

[thick reef]

Arms is S tier?

[thick reef]

u smell mate,relax

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-gif-26460635

[thick reef]

u'r acting like a fucking Karen woman im asking a simple question u degenerated oaf\

[wheat jay]

Lmao fuck you

Fury better

[thick reef]

we got Karen males here

[thick reef]

Relax buddy

[wheat jay]

Get your bitch warr to learn how to play, satisfied with that answer?

[thick reef]

YES

THANK YOU

[wheat jay]

And I asked cuz I play kfc myself

[thick reef]

wtf is KFC

i tought u'r talking about

[wheat jay]

Warrior+hunter

[thick reef]

KFC wtf

https://tenor.com/view/hot-n-crispy-hot-and-crispy-chicken-dinner-finger-lickin-good-yummy-food-gif-13944250

[wheat jay]

That's the name of the comp lmao

[thick reef]

no idea i dont play pvp

[wheat jay]

Fucking hell xD

Ok we cleared that up hahaha

[thick reef]

he will join discord soon

1 sec

[wheat jay]

Mmm, I'm going to relegate that question to my warr @fickle forge

@fickle forge get your ass in here ya hoe

[thick reef]

@weary forge

This is my arena partner

What is KFC ?

[weary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-man-gif-24061722

[thick reef]

Soo

What does he do

Wrong

Since he dies quit often

unless i dive in first

then we might have some chance

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

imma ask first

do you keep him alive in those moments?

cuz you can do A LOT as survi

[thick reef]

i drop Roar of sacrifice

i pop scatter shot

[wheat jay]

bruh

dont