pvp

[rancid granite]

sounds like you just wanna play vs weaker opponents

[fierce elm]

the fuck

Imagine starting at 0mmr

400 games to hit 1400

Also it would have a drastic effect, you would still face the same high rated players than if you started at 1500

[remote cosmos]

The true unga bunga spirit

[fossil mortar]

Zug Zug, me want to join tribe. Tribe far away, blizz god keep from family. Me sad

[fierce elm]

Boutta go eat rocks if they nerf ret again

[rancid granite]

gotta zug to get there; can't point to the sky and blame odyn

odyn demands battle and zug then he bless you

[fossil mortar]

Odyns kind, Odyn let me help win. Blizz god cold, i do orb I gain many points. I strong. Blizz god say I do bad, I get not many pebbles. Next game, non tribe friends AFK at spawn, standing on top of building with fire place. Blizz god say, I take all pebbles, you should win, or lose days worth of pebbles

Me see pebbles gone, me sad

I want tribe, I want share pebbles with equals

Me want happiness with tribe I belong

I miss tribe

[lavish quest]

Backpedaling hunter keeps messing with me in world pvp... and just keeps losing

Why does he hurt himself? I'll never know

But you bet your ass I bagged him everytime

[fossil mortar]

Bot prob

[lavish quest]

I don't think evenbots backpedal

[fossil mortar]

Easy check, just whisper 'are you a bot?' if you get an instant and semi long answer - it is a bot

Ya ain't telling me a backpeddler is typing fast

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[fossil mortar]

It be system work, system help you find tribe above. Me belong bellow, you effected good. Me bad.

System not bad, system just too kind

System help find tribe, me journey inverse. It feel bad. When better feel if clim up, not down. Even if for tribe

You go up, it help you. You feel good

One day, me find tribe. First me climb down for week or longer

Always down, make sad
Meet tribe, pebbles balanced. Me happy again

[fierce elm]

Time to reroll an s tier spec BECAUSE BLIZZARD NERFED RET

[rancid granite]

you got a real convoluted essay of an answer for losing

just play more

[fierce elm]

Time to play frost mage

wtf is this caveman speak

[rancid granite]

caveman speak wouldnt have a long ass confusing answer

caveman speak is like

me zug me win

[fossil mortar]

I wish tribe closer, so me play with tribe I belong faster. You climb to meet tribe, or you at tribe. It fun.

Me gotta climb down to find tribe. Me sad I gotta climb down. When god could put me and you down lower, so both climb up to find tribe

[rancid granite]

tldr you want easy, fast, free wins

[fierce elm]

This might be the worst thing I have read today

[fossil mortar]

No, I want to fight ppl at my level. Whatever that is the system seems it to be

[fierce elm]

So starting at x mmr then falling or climbing

Because starting a 0mmr wouldnt change much except make it a drag for everyone

You are going to be facing people better than you regardless due to how WoW works

[fossil mortar]

A drag for the faster climbers, sure

[fierce elm]

For everyone

[fossil mortar]

Ye, but diff is starting at that point and growing to that point

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to need 500 games to hit 1800 because of how MMR works

[rancid granite]

just go next

[fierce elm]

Every PvP system in games are based around ”placements”

We have placement games

Literally like the first 10 games you do are placement games

[fossil mortar]

Well, I was placed far off from where the system wants me

[fierce elm]

Yes, because you won

and that happens

[rancid granite]

you can't get everything you want instantly

like i said

keep playing

= it evens out

[fossil mortar]

So suffering for a few weeks to go back down to where i should have been, to then start climbing is a feel bad moment
I get if ya ain't in that position it doesn't feel like it, I do. But try to emphasize on the feel of never gaining and only losing. And you don't have the time to effectively grind out the 30 games to even it out to the starting point. As that is weeks worth of gaming

[rancid granite]

that's not how it works

[fossil mortar]

It will even me out on reset?

[rancid granite]

bro if you dont enjoy sports or anything competitive, dont play

this is all very convoluted because you lost a game

[fossil mortar]

I just want to be able to slowly climb - I want a number to look at to go "I did good today, or bad"
Not feeling bad about winning 5 and losing 1

[rancid granite]

well thats dumb

you won 5 and lost one, keep doing that

and you climb???

5-1 a good ratio and you're upset about it

[fossil mortar]

No, cause I won 3 per game and lost 20

-5 in total

[rancid granite]

but you literally went 5-1 and you still aint happy

[fossil mortar]

Cause I like number to represent it. Basically it tells me I won games I couldn't lose. And lost a game I should not lose. lost rating from a 2 day grind going positive w/L ratio - it feels bad. As goal is rating.

Again, I am sure I will even out. I just wish it started me there instead

[rancid granite]

so keep playing

[lucid walrus]

it’s discouraging but this is also the point where mmr is the lowest it’ll be for the season

haven’t had enough resets for the ladder to get padded

[worthy fern]

You will have games with shitters and r1s right now

If that bothers you I’d wait to queue

But that’s the cowards route

[rancid granite]

play->win->climb->repeat

wanting easy games and wanting mmr quick is just silly

[fossil mortar]

Only thing that bothers me is how the system is slow at placing me at a point where I can hope to gain rating.

In my head a 50/50 close to w/l ratio is to be expected at balance point.

So, if 80% winrate = rating loss, ya get disheartened

I don't want MMR quick, I want it balanced so I don't get my situation

If I am currently 1700 and belong in 1300, I rather be 1300 now and get to climb today. Than being on a slow decline for a month to get to 1400 my new point.

Solution: play more games. Problem: limited time to play
Result: a long time of feels bad, till I reach the point I should started closer to.

[rancid granite]

ok so just dont feel bad then problem solved

or just dont play if it makes you feel bad

[fossil mortar]

Well that could be the end results, sure. Doesn't mean I gotta voice my support for that reality

[rancid granite]

not accepting reality is just hurt for no reason

😭

cheer up and have fun pvping buddy

celebrate your wins

[fossil mortar]

I don't think we are able to empathise, we are simply too different mindsets. Let's both just agree to that there are merits to both sides.

I understand it is a play more and try to not let it get to you situation. Hopefully you see it feels bad being suckerpunched in the rating for the next few weeks

[rancid granite]

a few weeks? i dunno your mindset is just doom and gloom

[toxic oxide]

what weapon enchants do you want for pvp?

[rancid granite]

pvp and have fun, done

[fossil mortar]

As said, I get your point. You don't emphasize with mine.

Either way, was a good talk

till we meet on the field of battle

[rancid granite]

cheer up little buddy

[hazy folio]

How are people crafting pvp weapon if we only get 9 heraldry?

[remote cosmos]

buy 1 heraldry from the conquest vendor

[hazy folio]

Oh i see

[pure hornet]

Afro, if i have too much mastery is diminish returns that bad? 42%

[left jay]

does merc mode exist in tww

[worthy fern]

@fossil mortar it will only be this way for this season, mmr doesn’t get fully reset in rest of seasons.

If do random solo bg if I cared about my win loss rn

[limber relic]

least its something

[pure hornet]

Gz

[limber relic]

ty ig x)

[hot nymph]

Should be adjusted as season progresses and ratings are inflated, multiglads fighting at 1700-1900 rn give it a week or two

[fossil mortar]

I dont care if there are 3k players at 1700, what bothers me, is me a 1300 andy, is at 1500

[stuck root]

Just get 1600 and quit lol

[brazen cedar]

You're 1500 Andy now

[fossil mortar]

Bring me back home to 1300 tribe, where I gain pebbles when win, instead of take away

[hot nymph]

Yea i get your point, normally diff between 1300-1500 isnt much so u would be good, but its packed rn 1 week later and it ll be all fixed

[fossil mortar]

It will get solved with time, I just don't like it as is

[hot nymph]

Eh happens all the time at exp start

[fossil mortar]

One loss taking hours and days away of progress, is just a very feel bad

[hot nymph]

Take it as a chance to see how they play :p

[brazen cedar]

What are you losing?

I dont get your point

[fossil mortar]

Oh, I win and I gain 3-8 rating, I lose and I go -20 to -30

[stuck root]

Df season 1 me and my bro were pushing 2100 and kept getting cooked by awc champs lol

[fossil mortar]

so clearly I am not at the CR and MMR point I should be at

[stuck root]

In 2s

[stuck root]

Just win then

Fix your mmr

Idk how you even get to that point tbh

[fossil mortar]

I win 5 in a row, and this is the reward ._.

[rancid granite]

big doomer

[fossil mortar]

Solution is over time, I lost enought that my MMR and CR match

so I go +10/-10 ish per win

[stuck root]

I mean how did you get to that point

[fossil mortar]

or whatever is the new balance point

I guess I wont too many in a row

[stuck root]

It is a gradual change so you had to have lost a lot already

I had 64% winrate and was +/- 12/9 at 1800

[fossil mortar]

I will just continue on, hopefully it evens out in the end

[tough coyote]

what class pairs well with fury in 2's?

[fossil mortar]

Problem is winning feels like losing, to achieve that goal

[stuck root]

Post your match score that you see when you mouse ofer rated

To see your w/L

Math aint mathing

[limber relic]

are u talking about blitz?

[rancid granite]

if winning feels like losing its time to stop playing

[fossil mortar]

^

this be the problem

I will be in my rating bracket one day or another, then it starts feeling good again

[stuck root]

Or just win and stop making excuses

[rancid granite]

^

also stop putting yourself down

[stuck root]

If you are truly inflated so bad on rating you will tank fast

[fossil mortar]

Tanking is what I will do then

That be my goal

get to where I am supposed to be

[copper fox]

lol

[stuck root]

You are annoying go play

[rancid granite]

never actually seen someone win and get mad cause they're so sure that they are bad

[limber relic]

are u talking about

[stuck root]

Fuckin fishing lol

[limber relic]

blitz?

[fossil mortar]

RBG, ye

[limber relic]

i mean

just go deathwish

get 5 stacks

[fossil mortar]

I am winning matches, dont worry

[limber relic]

avatar with titans torment, roar

odyn

bladestorm

[stuck root]

Ah so does rating in rbg scale with performance

[limber relic]

10 kills

ez

[stuck root]

Get carried and be useless i can see it

[limber relic]

https://www.twitch.tv/seifcham/clip/RelievedGleamingPieCoolCat-6t47PVpBQS-ZQKSx

this is not blitz

but

[fossil mortar]

but I get the most orb points, the most flag caps and returns

[copper fox]

Dude dw I had a 48% win rate playing 40 games last night @ like 1500-1600 in 3s… floating around 1700-1800 mmr. Not even positive

Just gotta keep pressing q

[rancid granite]

the casual gliding away at the end is lmao

[fossil mortar]

ye, I just dont get that many games in a day - I know that is the issue, all about playing more, my take is that it feels bad to having to go down to get to where my starting point should be

[limber relic]

KEK

[stuck root]

So you expect us to believe that you are contributing, winning and losing 30 points a loss

Makes no sense

[rancid granite]

bro think better about yourself

[fossil mortar]

I am trash tier 🥔

[copper fox]

Well 3s qs are faster that’s how I got 40 games haha solo shuff definitely wouldn’t have had that many

[rancid granite]

'i shouldnt be here im so bad i keep winning but im so bad : l '

[stuck root]

Post win loss

[rancid granite]

😭

[copper fox]

Press q, get reps

[stuck root]

You are not making sense so something isnt true

[copper fox]

Rating irrelevant

[fossil mortar]

rating irrelevant, I partly agree

[copper fox]

You somehow got there tho and nothing is inflated rn

So you’re capable

Just keep pressing q and button smashing

[fossil mortar]

Prob just lucky team rng

[stuck root]

Brother

[copper fox]

That’s like

A huge part of ss tho too lmao

[stuck root]

You dont win a lot and lose 30 per loss

That is not how mmr works

[copper fox]

It honestly sounds like you went on a winning streak directly into a losing streak

Then won a game with trash mmr and higher cr

Gained nothing

Then lost a game

And lost 30

That’s exactly the process that has to happen for what you’re saying you’re experiencing

[stuck root]

Ya i doubt this is consistent at all

[copper fox]

But that’s fine… press q still

Don’t intentionally tank that’s wild

[stuck root]

He is either ignorant or trolling

[rancid granite]

he just sad and needs a break

[fossil mortar]

I only done like 14 games total, ofc sample size is small :v

[limber relic]

i didnt read all the dra,a

drama

sadly

[copper fox]

Bruh

[limber relic]

can someone summerize

[copper fox]

Why didn’t you start by saying you’ve only played 14 games

Go take a nap dude lol

Youre fine

[fossil mortar]

I said I do a couple games a day ._.

[limber relic]

im confused

[copper fox]

It’s just week 1 gaming frustration tbh

That’s the tldr

[tepid otter]

Bud 14 games isn't enough to justify this kind of whinging

Just keep playing things will even out

[limber relic]

go 5stack deathwish and win

[fossil mortar]

I just rather start at 0 MMR and CR, and grind up, this be all

[stuck root]

You already did though?

[rancid granite]

he wants freelo

[fossil mortar]

Nop

I dont want the free elo

[rancid granite]

some people just don't really like the competitive nature of pvp; and just want 'wins'

[stuck root]

Me

[fossil mortar]

But I dont care if I win or lose

something is falling through here

[stuck root]

Losing is for losers

Which i am not

[copper fox]

Ngl you’re not even making sense at this point

If you don’t care about winning or losing

Just press q

Anyway

[fossil mortar]

That is the solution

[copper fox]

Si

[stuck root]

Stop feeding the attention hore

[fossil mortar]

Potato mad?

thought it was only sad

[fierce elm]

lmao

[stuck root]

Original

[fossil mortar]

Ofc not

I used it on you what 3 times already?

[narrow compass]

Colossus Buff 💪 I’m ready

[fickle forge]

This man will never lose his virginity because he never loses

[stuck root]

I got physical proof of it. I didnt lose my virginity i won my non virginity 🤔

Perspective

[slender wedge]

how did this chan turn out so weird

[fossil mortar]

Unhinged aint required in PvP, as BT value is low ye?

[modern lotus]

wait why am i seeing top pvp players with like 558 greens on, is this just bait?

[fierce elm]

because they scale up?

[fossil mortar]

Gear scale

558 is 623 in PvP

[fierce elm]

armory never shows scaled up gear

so pvp gear will read as their base ilvl

[fossil mortar]

Afro, you know if Unhinged is kinda bait for PvP?

[fierce elm]

idk

I have no clue about talents lmao

[fossil mortar]

I will just skip it and go TR instead, for more auto cleave and bit stronger OF then. I am sure someone will correct me in due time if needed

[stuck root]

Unhinged is insane huh

It also turns enraged regen+bladestorm into a full heal

[fierce elm]

NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD

[ruby condor]

is there talant for Furious Bloodthirst

[midnight mason]

how much is the nerf impacting fury in pvp?

[fierce elm]

about 3.50

[fossil mortar]

It did drop our burst potential quite a bit

[fierce elm]

We have absolutely no clue because we can't predict the future whatsoever

So come back on Wednesday and NA has had their testing period, Thursday and EU has had their testing period

[midnight mason]

and still they dont touch mm hunter with their burst in pvp

[fossil mortar]

this be the dummy breakdown - TR would equal 10% more OF dam; looks worth over unhinged -healing aside

[stuck root]

Missing like half of the stuff for bladestorm buffs bet

[fossil mortar]

Not got the extra tick, nop

so you can say in a longer fight there would be one more tick of BT in there

[stuck root]

How many times does bladestorm hit normally

[restive matrix]

What Embelishments do we use in pvp?

Symbiosis?

[vestal moat]

hey the part at 1600 is only arena ?

[fierce elm]

any rated arena

rated pvp*

[vestal moat]

you just go to the npc then ? because I didnt get an item to trade or something

[fierce elm]

its in your mailbox

[stuck root]

Depending on how many times bladestorm hits normally, 3 stacks could add 2 bloodthirsts. They also proc reap the storm and do more damage in execute if talented

[vestal moat]

oh thx mate

[stuck root]

Surely there is a rbg build somewhere tho

[fossil mortar]

Probably, I am just feelin' this out. Even if you double it, you got to include the time saved bursting with TR from meatcleaver stacks for free. Guess I could move from OS and Tenderise, but that really doesnt seem the play

[open zephyr]

is there a list of pvp macros in this disc?

[fierce elm]

not really

very few macros that are class specific for warrior

like at most charge/hamstring or like target macros

[stuck root]

You cast bladestorm too often to not use unhinged

[fierce elm]

which are just pvp wide

[open zephyr]

yeah figured

ty

[stuck root]

Especially with AM and slayer

[fossil mortar]

I currently play RA for em crushing blows with OS followups

[stuck root]

RA sucks in pvp ngl

More cooldowns especially in aoe is way better

[fossil mortar]

Really, I feel it gives great value being our heaviest strike, being so consistent

CB, OS into Ramp really seem to shrek most ppl

[stuck root]

Bladestorm is op, want to press it more

[dark topaz]

@fickle forge do you think arms will swap to colossus given the buffs or still slayer is the go-to?

[pure hornet]

My mailbox stinks, someone forgot a fish there

[fickle forge]

Still slayer tbh

Colo just ain't it till they buff up sustained damage

[dark topaz]

I see

makes sense

[fossil mortar]

so my watch begins

[stuck root]

How ironic

When you were talking about tanking rating

[fossil mortar]

I am tanking the natural way

simply by playing and doing my best

[wary surge]

Hello guys, didnt craft the weapon and went for a ring, which gearing route should i take now ? Second ring / amulet going for conq weapon with quest or wait next week and use conquest to craft weapon ?

[copper fox]

Pretty sure crafted weap will be bis

[frail badge]

wtf happned to q times on my hunter i have 19 min avg wait time now comapred to 8 or min a few days ago on my warrior for solo bg

[wary surge]

and only way to obtain heraldry now is with conq point ? then i should buy it with next conq week ?

[fierce elm]

If you can even buy the heraldries needed

we get 600 conquest next week

So assuming you only crafted ring

then you can get enough heraldries

but you are gonna have to spend 700 conquest on the heraldries

so you might be fucked

[copper fox]

Yea tbh if you didn’t craft weapon you’re fucked lol

[wary surge]

yeah im fucked forgot it need 10...

[frail badge]

am i getting the 19 min avg wait time on my hunter since it does not have any rating yet maybe?

[copper fox]

Games dead rip (jk) (maybe)

[wary surge]

Then should we still focus on that and wait 2 weeks, getting crafted wep same week as conq weapon quest or should i invest on other items ?

[fossil mortar]

My que times are around 7-10min atm, so sounds about right

[copper fox]

Who knows man the q system in this game is a mystery

[frail badge]

i got to just above 1600 on my warior a few days ago and then q times were only like 5 or min

[copper fox]

Idk I’d craft weap asap personally

[wary surge]

ok thx

[fossil mortar]

I presume most players are around 1.6k

[graceful sinew]

45+45=135

[delicate relic]

I Atak enemy with weapon but I die before he die. What do?

[frail badge]

for pvp the more time goes on the more i think its true, i was really hoping for faster queue times, last i played was s2 of dragonflight and it was horrible then and its horrible now

feels like a waste of time to wait that long for a match

[fierce elm]

Welcome to a queue where only DPS players play

Most players are not 1600

[frail badge]

this is ony my hutner though im talking about right now who has no rating yet

[wary surge]

and for grinding ranked blitz, getting whirlwind talent isn't better than suggested pvp talent recommanded ?

[dense herald]

gonna have to use this to counteract the nerfs

[fierce elm]

and if you are first time queueing its a longer queue for a new character

it's hard to place you in a game when they don't know your character basically

[copper fox]

Yea placement games = longer qs

[rancid granite]

hows the average 2s and 3s?

[fierce elm]

below 1-2 minutes for 3s

lmao

[rancid granite]

i'm used to 20min solo shuffle from DF, never done 2s/3s

[fierce elm]

same for 2s iirc

[copper fox]

My qs were all less than 2 minutes last night @ 1600-1800 mmr

[rancid granite]

damn sounds nice

[copper fox]

3s

[fierce elm]

it is nice

[rancid granite]

5min rbgbs is amazing tho i cant imagine doing more solo shuffles lol

maybe ill start trying out 2s/3s on my rogue

[frail badge]

i think yall were right aobut the placement thing now my 2nd match says avg wait tim of 5 min

[fierce elm]

I am always right

[frail badge]

if q times really are like that now, does that mean more people are playing comapred to when i last played during s2 dragonflight? back then q times were horrible

[fierce elm]

it all depends on rating

overall player health

it has like 5 million different things that can affect it

Generally early seasons have okay queues

especially at launch of a new expansion

[frail badge]

when i played during s1 and s2 draongflight it was the tail end of the season maybe thats why like you siad then

[warm pollen]

can anyone explain this to me

why does the tooltip say 1million dmg

if it hits for 300k

on a pvp dummy

[fierce elm]

PvP modifiers

[warm pollen]

i guess it hits twice

[fierce elm]

broski

[warm pollen]

so 600k

[fierce elm]

along with armor

along with versatility

So yeah

[warm pollen]

the dummy has armor and versatility?

[fierce elm]

Oh yeah

nvm lmao

Who knows

tooltips are fucking dumb anyways

I wouldnt give them much thought tbh

[wheat jay]

cuz its a fury execute

and fury players are weak

[brisk harness]

Im new on the pvp, what 639 item i focus first??

[wheat jay]

it translates to their abilities

[fierce elm]

pins have a gearing guide

[brisk harness]

Oooh soz

And ty

[dense herald]

fury execute is literally bigger htan arms

i can see hteir health drop when i execute

unlike arms

[warm pollen]

eh i can only see their health drop when i click crushing blow or or bloodbath

fury is death by a thousand cuts anyway

arms demolish chunks, but its too annoying to use

[brisk harness]

Do i craft weapon first or armor??

[fierce elm]

The gearing guide is still in the pins big man

[brisk harness]

I dont understant it very wel.. thats why i ask

[zenith marlin]

Never craft weapon wtf

[brisk harness]

I think u can see it how i write xD

[fierce elm]

You craft the weapon from Conquest Heraldries, and the armor piece from Honor Heraldries

[zenith marlin]

There is a free pvp epic weapon

[fierce elm]

Yeah

yet mostly every top warrior and everyone who follows them are crafting weapon

[zenith marlin]

Get the honor weapon in the interim

or better yet convert all your honor to gold by selling the epic gem shards to suckers

[fierce elm]

because turns out getting a 639 weapon with embellishment and you can enchant because you are going to use it for the rest of the season

is pretty good

[zenith marlin]

~65k honor buys you a sub

Cuz some babies need gems to rank up or smth

[marsh wharf]

is there an updated general pvp spec

[delicate relic]

any tips on surviving as fury? just enraged regen isn't enough

[marble bone]

Still shit hourly wage. How long does it take you to farm 65k honor? Go cut a lawn and buy a token

And if gold is interesting, I’m pretty sure flying around half afk picking herbs and mining nets you more in an hour 🤷‍♂️

[zenith marlin]

I mean I sorta do bgs and pvp just cuz

Fk else do I do with honor

I mean I do make $40/hr so I guess it isn't like changing my livelihood lmfao

Ayo think about it, 10-15k honor buys a McDouble

Aint so bad when u think like that eh?

[stuck root]

Learn to use defensive stance well

It is your most important button

[zenith marlin]

pop Enranged Regen with Bladestorm uses Blood Thirst talent at low hp

It's like a fury warrior lay on hands

each BS bloodthirst heals the buffed enraged regen amount

EZ LIVE

[rancid granite]

good stuff

[tired tapir]

as fury do we wanna send all our cds together or space them out?

[lavish quest]

Bust hard, Bust fast. Never stop busting

[rancid granite]

be mindful of avatar is all

[serene valve]

As in make use of the damage buff? Or using odyns’s (pops 4 second avatar) to break snares?

[rancid granite]

root break i mean

[serene valve]

👍

[lavish quest]

I mean... most of the time you're not gonna hold avatar for that given its a lot of damage itself (the odyns proc)

[fierce elm]

Bust immediately

[tired tapir]

bet imma bust all over these ranged classes ty

[urban skiff]

nah, but if you're facing someone with roots you can hold it until right after they pop it

[sharp stratus]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/kelthuzad/bingbingbing

this guy has 3 bloody token items...

how...

[dry nest]

cheap items

[fierce elm]

He has 2

[sharp stratus]

im following his exact build

he has 3

neck cape bracers

[fierce elm]

Neck is conq piece

[sharp stratus]

ah

okay

[fierce elm]

'Forged Glad' 'Forged Warmonger'

So he has 2

[sharp stratus]

for Runed Harbingers

what do we want to save those for?

I heard some peopel say you get a free wep?

or something?

[copper fox]

One of the free weapons you’re getting is vers crit

Crafted weap with embellishment is bis

[sharp stratus]

@copper fox idk I heard someone said that there's something going on with the epic crests

do we get them from PvP? or you have to PvE to upgrade the gear past a certain point?

[copper fox]

This is still what we should be following for week 1

You get the 9 heraldry through either rated pvp winsor or epic bgs

[fierce elm]

Epic Crests are PvE things

there are no crests in pvp

[copper fox]

Yea I assumed he meant heraldry since this is the pvp channel lol but who knows

[sharp stratus]

ah I didn't know

why does arms say haste

every top warrior I see is running mastery

for both fury and arms

[fierce elm]

this is what Magnus recommends

[cinder thorn]

Guys please stop being like sheep, it really doesnt matter the order you will have them all in a few days and you will reach the rating appropriate for you whether you get x piece before y or not

In a coupe of weeks everyone will be decked out and whatever tiny difference will dwindle into nothingness

A couple of % in something isn't going to change your rating

[fierce elm]

if you wanna run mast run mast

Yeah guys stop asking how to gear up smh

[cinder thorn]

All these questions about what gear to buy in what order and what stats and what spec are getting annoying

[fierce elm]

How dare you

Its not like this channel was created around answering questions, such as idk, gearing, how good a spec is

[rancid granite]

wake up sheeple

[cinder thorn]

Aren't you the one who always conplains about people not reading pins? 🤣

[fierce elm]

You can do whichever, some run haste, some run mastery

[cinder thorn]

Not using Google

[fierce elm]

I point them to the pins

In a passive aggressive manner

[rancid granite]

the order should be
ask afro -> check pins -> search bar -> google -> ask chat

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

Such sheep behavior. Trying to research. What nerd sheep they are

[fierce elm]

Im in here taking care of these new people

Because the last thing we wanna do is gatekeep and push people away from PvP

[rancid granite]

i learned so much from rogue discord without saying a word from the pins and search bar - im afraid to talk in there those people scare me

[lavish quest]

Unless they play mage

[fierce elm]

Better and active community = more players

[lavish quest]

Then we should send them back to minecraft

[fierce elm]

An open channel that doesnt mind basic questions = more interest

[cinder thorn]

What research

Everyone is going to have full conquest gear in a few weeks

Stat priority only matters a tiny % performance wise only noticeable in close games vs similarly skilled opponents

And by then you have plateaued at your appropriate rating anyway

[fierce elm]

More interest = higher chance of playing more pvp

[rancid granite]

'in a few weeks' they wanna play now though

[fierce elm]

Thats such a bs take lmao

[lavish quest]

Some people want to optimize more than you. It's your problem, not theirs

[fierce elm]

”Yeah guys in a few weeks you can utilize your wow sub”

Let the people optimize

[rancid granite]

gearing is like the #1 rule in pvp

https://tenor.com/view/babe-sheep-baa-ram-ewe-gif-13622532

[fierce elm]

lmao

Besides we want to set up people for success regardless, sure optimizing gear is a small thing, but it does help

[cinder thorn]

Yes I love helping people but this constant asking the same questions over and over again without even using the search function or checking pins is just lazy and stupid

[rancid granite]

yeah you gotta accept it

lots of people play WoW lol

i just wish they'd say please and thank you more often

[fierce elm]

So dont look at the channel lmao

[rancid granite]

or ask in a full coherent sentence

[cinder thorn]

It's the only channel I have any interest in, pvp is the only thing I do

[fierce elm]

I mean, if you get this annoyed at people asking questions in a gamemode they might be new in

idk man

[cinder thorn]

Its not asking questions which is the issue

It is the questions themselves

You don't seem to understand its OK

[fierce elm]

lmao

My guy you are getting annoyed at people asking the same questions in a public discord channel about warrior pvp

[cinder thorn]

That's what pins are for

It's also what the check pvp stays and build websites are for

[copper fox]

Ngl you typing and complaining about other people typing is wasting just as much time

[fierce elm]

People want easy information, either answer or ignore it

[cinder thorn]

Discord is for info that's not already on there

[copper fox]

Seems like an equal trade

You waste your time

They waste theirs

[fierce elm]

Like you can just as easily not look at it lmao

[copper fox]

Gg

[fierce elm]

It doesnt stop you from writing

[fallen solar]

Yo what’s the Macro to cast sharpen blade when you cast Mortal Strike?

I forgot what it was

[fierce elm]

What the fuck dont use that macro

[fallen solar]

That way Sharpen blade would automatically cast

It worked for me all DF

[fierce elm]

What the fuck

[lavish quest]

Hey guys,
How do I fix my car?

[fierce elm]

Yeah dont

[glacial sparrow]

general starter question 2s scenarios: if im with 1 other dps vs a dps and a healer, is it genrally best tactic to go for healer first? or cc healer and go for dps?

[fallen solar]

Bajheera made it but I can’t find his video

[fierce elm]

Its a bad habit

[rancid granite]

whats a good recipe for tunafish so i actually want to eat it?

[fallen solar]

But using sharpen blade is just another keybind I don’t want

[copper fox]

Bahjeera also says it’s not a good macro

In his video

[fierce elm]

Try to blow up healer, avoid situations where you are against a healer dps

[copper fox]

lol

[fallen solar]

Well damn

[fierce elm]

But you wanna be able to time it big man

[fallen solar]

True

[lavish quest]

I asked a unique question to this channel and didn't get answers

[cinder thorn]

Maybe he wants 0.5% increase over 30sec

Help him Afro wtf man this is discord for pvp warrior and all sorts of people ask questions here

[fierce elm]

play my summer car no guide

This has been some beautiful days for discord memes swear to god

[cinder thorn]

/cast Sharpen Blade
/cast Mortal Strike

[rancid granite]

same. hate tunafish. but i want to eat more of it

[copper fox]

Glad I could be a part of it

Ngl

You’re welcome

[fierce elm]

we got a guy posting his weights randomly, we have a guy who is annoyed at people asking questions, we got a sharpen blade ms macro

I love this channel man lmao

[fierce elm]

This is how all regulars get introduced here

[copper fox]

Love it

[fierce elm]

There isnt a single person who consistently posts who hasnt been bullied

[rancid granite]

dont forget the guy who was super upset for WINNING arena

[copper fox]

Honestly, fair

[fierce elm]

lmao that too

[cinder thorn]

How tf do you remember that 🤣

[fierce elm]

its how we weed out the people

Also how I got my 3s partner

[copper fox]

Doing the lords work

[lavish quest]

Guess I'll have to go back to asking the same questions as everyone else

[rancid granite]

it was just a few hrs ago lol

[fierce elm]

you dont have question priviliges

[cinder thorn]

Oh I thought you were referring to couple months ago

[lavish quest]

I get super upset when I win against mage because I get mad that they lost their free win

[tired tapir]

fellas is it bad if we macro recklessness, avatar and thunderous roar together

[fierce elm]

Y e s

[rancid granite]

lol

[tired tapir]

how bad

[fierce elm]

on a scale from 1-10

about a 8.5

[tired tapir]

oh lord

[rancid granite]

really

i use it a lot

[tired tapir]

its for a friend who's new to wow and pvp

[lavish quest]

How do I stop blizzard from nerfing warrior?

[copper fox]

“For a friend”

[tired tapir]

what about recklessness and avatar

[fierce elm]

Yeah, the worst part is that eventually you have to sit down and learn all the things

[cinder thorn]

Why is it bad

Reck gives 30 crit and rage

Avatar damage and frees you so you can zugzug

Roar does dmg

What's the problem

[tired tapir]

(and me)

[fierce elm]

And honestly its easier to learn it correctly

than be forced to relearn

[lavish quest]

Because you roar first if you want to git gud

So your free odyns does more dam

[copper fox]

If you put roar first in the sequence

It works like that

lol

[lavish quest]

People who ask questions for small optimizations would understand

[fierce elm]

Learn it right the first time and you dont have to sit later relearning : )

[lavish quest]

But if you put roar first in the macro you're still a nerd with no bitches

[copper fox]

Fuck

[cinder thorn]

That's only if you have battlefield command no? 5% more right

[lavish quest]

Wut u running in place of it huh big boi?

[cinder thorn]

But avatar first buffs the roar and the odyn

[fierce elm]

If they are entirely new to WoW, there are really no macros they need as a warrior

You can give them charge/hamstring to free up a button

[lavish quest]

Roar dot gets buffed after the fact too.

[fierce elm]

Or work any racial damage boost into a cooldown

[lavish quest]

I think you should ask more questions everyone else asks borhanix

[cinder thorn]

Or maybe just put those things in a pin to stop people asking same question 😜

[lavish quest]

Alright, afro, put together a pin on proper roar use

[tired tapir]

wait i dont understand this part. why does it give more dam?

[lavish quest]

Ship it to MUD

[fierce elm]

Why is MUD stormforged again

Also Lelandanswer him this is above my knowledge

[lavish quest]

Dumb rets I stg

[copper fox]

Might not be a bad idea to pin the burst lol

[lavish quest]

Roar makes target take more dam while bleeding.

[fierce elm]

MUD is busy working/streaming

[lavish quest]

So if odyn hits after they start bleeding. Profit

If you're gonna play warrior you're gonna have to learn to ape properly

Returning to monke not as easy as everyone memes

[worthy wagon]

Anyone have a good PvP weak aura pack?

[tired tapir]

odyn is a bleed?

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-spin-gorilla-gif-20269552

[lavish quest]

No, roar is the bleed 🤦‍♂️

[fierce elm]

Weakauras are not needed for PvP, you also need to find some you enjoy on your own

[lavish quest]

🧢

[worthy wagon]

lol what

[fierce elm]

neat ones to have are : healer sitting CC, The kill WA

DONT CAP ME

What WA would you need is the question

[lavish quest]

Plugging in a keyboard also not required

[fierce elm]

Is it to replace an addon

[tired tapir]

ok wait i thought thunderous words only buffs bleeds

[fierce elm]

Is it to give you more information on something specific

[tired tapir]

so how does odyn interact with that

[wheat jay]

kargish doesnt play with WAs

I do

[fierce elm]

Most runnWA that give specific information they want

[lavish quest]

Battlefield commander

[wheat jay]

preference

[lavish quest]

That why he stuck duelist?

[fierce elm]

I run 3 WAs, one for healer sitting cc, one for crusade stacks because paladin, one for forbearence

[wheat jay]

how many glads do you have?

sit down bitchboy

[fierce elm]

Leland would be r1 on EU

[worthy wagon]

Enemy cds used mostly

[lavish quest]

How does one get glad without queuing 3s?

[wheat jay]

you queue 3s

[lavish quest]

Well that explains that real easy

[fierce elm]

Wag.io has a specific filter for pvp related weakauras

otherwise omnibar/omnicd

[tired tapir]

oh gotcha tyty

[lavish quest]

I'll just sit top raid DPS

😎

[fierce elm]

General CD cooldowns should beeasy to find on wagio

[wheat jay]

skill issue

[worthy wagon]

Yeah I know, I asked if anyone had a nice pack

Nahj had one a while back but can’t find an updated one

[fierce elm]

Magnus discord might have his

[lavish quest]

Fotm player giving me shit

[fierce elm]

But I dont know what he runs

[lavish quest]

Classic

[fierce elm]

same with Bajheeras/MUD

[solar radish]

i like MUD hes funny

[fierce elm]

So can check Magnusz discord if he has his pack updated there

[wheat jay]

im giving you shit cuz you are shit

not the shit

just shit

[fierce elm]

Otherwise packs do be pretty hard to get

Artji is a pve only andy

[lavish quest]

Did you just have a stroke?

Someone get this man some help

[solar radish]

does upgrading the honor gear matter for pvp or is it capped at 600ish?

[worthy wagon]

No

[lavish quest]

Useless for pvp

Unless you wanna flex your honor gear is blue and everyone else's is green

For mental damage

[copper fox]

Mental damage is huge advantage

[solar radish]

its about sending a message

that i have brain issues

so people feel bad

[lavish quest]

You already do that by playing warrior

[solar radish]

D :

[worthy wagon]

https://wago.io/40TE7bJcU

I’ll give this one a whirl

[toxic oxide]

fairly new to pvp, if i have a full green pvp set, trinkets and weapons as high as i can get atm what would be the next items to buy?

just the big budget stat items?

[boreal veldt]

just makes world pve with wm on feel a bit better if you're not in pvp combat

[boreal veldt]

you can do world quests with wm on to earn bloody tokens for bloody token gear, and also earn conquest through bg/arenas for the highest ilvl pvp gear

[river walrus]

I don't use weak auras, is it mandatory to have success? I use omni bar, gladius and Bigdebuffs for pvp

[copper fox]

Nope

You’re good

[rancid granite]

some of them can be really nice to have regardless of mandatory or not

[worthy wagon]

Nah I’m sure there are plenty of people not using a bunch of addons and WAs that do just fine

I’d just like to know when certain abilities are used to defensive/peel/intervene

[tribal wedge]

nice 🙂

[knotty socket]

Plater is nice for this

[worthy wagon]

I use plater, I also don’t know every class and spec well enough to know what are important cds to worry about

Shit like WA packs that alert you help you learn what’s scary

[rancid granite]

checkout skillcapped's addon. it recommends you a list of addons, and it customizes it all for you

including WA's

[worthy wagon]

Nice, I’ll check it out. Thanks

[umbral cypress]

What’s the best macros you guys use? New to the pvp scene got to 1500 rating and now it’s just kinda a stand still cause team diffs and stuff

[fickle berry]

:3

first game

[stuck mulch]

nerf this man

[dense herald]

we lost

[dreamy pine]

anyone got any good Arms PvP talent builds?

[boreal veldt]

inb4 someone links fury build

[boreal veldt]

MUD has a good starter arms build in pins

[dreamy pine]

tyvm

[boreal veldt]

np fellow arms enjoyer

[dreamy pine]

imagine playing Fury. like really imagine doing that

[copper fox]

I’m just glad they nerfed arms. The 2 high rated arms warriors rn were just doing too much

[wheat jay]

Whole two?

[dense herald]

why do i get sobad

teams

like 1 game i get good team

the other one i have afk player

[wheat jay]

Maybe its you?

[crimson onyx]

Is it not better to go for a ring or neck instead of the cloak that is suggested in pinned?

Considering availability from bloody tokens also coming weeks

[copper fox]

Glad you picked up on the sarcasm there and clarified it for the people

[south flume]

🥲

[south flume]

its the damn bleeds with the thunderous roar and then all the defensives on arms are crazy wish fury had at least one more defensive

[wheat jay]

You have one usable while stunned

Thats big enough id say

[south flume]

i mean yall got ignore pain parry etc its crazy dmg reduction

[wheat jay]

And you got bloodthirst instead if IP, and healing from enraged regen

[urban skiff]

what we drinking tonight boys?

[knotty socket]

Bleach

[urban skiff]

I'm 3 beers down and looking at sour blueberry + schweppes 1:1 mix

[rancid granite]

camomille tea

[frank knoll]

Wish Arms was the spec 😦

its fun just, feels bad with low haste

[rancid granite]

i gave in and been playing fury cause i realized in the end its just the same damn thing

replace overpower with raging blow, and MS with rampage

boom same class

[umbral cypress]

^

[rancid granite]

same spec

[south flume]

tru tru but what if they blended them a lilllll we would be soooo busted

[frank knoll]

wtf are delves

do you guys do those\

[south flume]

yeah its good for pve gear

get up to tier 8 and you get good with a coffer key every time

good gear*

[hot nymph]

Yesssss got 1903 with arms lez goo

[frank knoll]

hmm

[rancid granite]

delves helps you learn your class for sure

[wheat jay]

No.

What we need is some proper balance, not something being op for fun

[delicate relic]

collossus or slayer?

[hot nymph]

Slayer

Tried colossus but in most matches it felt horrible

Against two dks it felt alright

[fallen solar]

Is Ret getting buffs in the anniversary update?

[urban skiff]

does it matter which hand our embellishment is in?

[lucid walrus]

it's a blast to set up with spear

taking 3 second shockwave gives you just enough time for a full demo as well

[hot nymph]

yea probably

But i cant hit spear so xd

[lucid walrus]

you using a cursor macro? helps a lot

[hot nymph]

Yea tried it that way but in wow i only really click for totems

Everything else im used to tab targeting

Also intervene but yea anything else i target

[narrow compass]

try and @player macro as well

[hot nymph]

Hahaha yea i tried that

[narrow compass]

I had to do that with my Pally for Final Reckoning. Helped TREMENDOUSLY

[copper fox]

Who

[narrow compass]

I still have a regular use keybind

[hot nymph]

Missed sone spears very bad and got flamed

[south flume]

dats me firetooth(:

[hot nymph]

Also the way they setup the buffs around dragon roar it feels very bad missing out on them

[hot nymph]

Crazy

[south flume]

🤪

[hot nymph]

How is blitz with warriors

I played 4 games and dmg was nice

[frank knoll]

what weapon enchants get getting

[copper fox]

This season already? lol

Damn

Oh its bgb i misread but still crazy lol

Thought ss for a second 😅

[hot nymph]

For arms i switched from radiant power to versetality one for possible more tankiness but probly radiant power is better

[lucid walrus]

murlok is almost entirely radiant power

looks like some furies run authority of the depths too

[south flume]

haha yeah blitz i havent done much shuffle we'll see how it goes!

[cyan stump]

where do you get the free tier piece at 1600?

[south flume]

i love it just cause i love bgs but dont have a team really to run with so im able to solo. Its honestly a lil hard sometimes and can be pretty team dependent but our zug zug factor is nutz! alot of hamstringing and rallying cries thats for sure

[south flume]

its at a vendor near city of threads dungeon

[copper fox]

You qing with a healer too?

[copper fox]

Tbh the move is 1 of each

[south flume]

nah straight solo and praying

[copper fox]

Haha

[umbral cypress]

this is crazy I was grinding hard early this week and was ranking up in no time and now i cant even get to 1600 in blitz cause i win then go on a lossing streak cause of team diff

[cyan stump]

vendor name>

[south flume]

ip'xal and 2 others next to him/her

[south flume]

its for real a struggle sometimes i went on a losing streak once 5 in a row and teams kept getting worse and worse and i was losing more and more each time i was like wtf hahah

[lucid walrus]

makes sense

[umbral cypress]

what was your rating loss vs gains?

[south flume]

at first it was 0 then 2 then 12 then like 20

[lucid walrus]

still insane that ascension stacks with ascension. wonder if the move is gonna be double crafted weapon eventually

[south flume]

endo i wonder the same thing but there is already and embellishment that doubles your nerubian embellishments so i think that solves it maybe??

[south flume]

that was for losses and then for wins it was alot at first then around 1700 started being 11-20ish

[umbral cypress]

damn.. so you've been pushing blitz everyday huh

[copper fox]

Pretty sure weap/gloves + higher raw dmg from conq weapons will be bis

Hulk what spec did you do that on

[south flume]

yeah lol got like 102 matches or something and I got it on fury

[copper fox]

Nice

100+ games lol

Huge

[south flume]

yeah for real havent done any pve hardly

[umbral cypress]

what's your build looking like? This is my first pvp season so im tryin to get all the info possible

[south flume]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGgx2MMmxM2ghZMDmxMzsZmxMzswMDzMMDb2mZmZGDAAAEmxy2AbgJYGmAjFsB

im running that if you wanna import it

only thing that sucks about blitz is currently not getting any reward progress for the vicious mount....):

[umbral cypress]

yea i felt that

is that gonna change do we know?

[south flume]

seen alot of people reporting it on bug forum still waiting for blizz response tho

[umbral cypress]

Ah fair enough

would be nice to get that tbh

[main apex]

Can valorstones be converted into any other currency?

Or are they just useless for pvp

[fleet lake]

anyone know how to get timers for CC duration and trinket CD on gladiusEX?

[umbral cypress]

anyone know why this bar is showing up?

[south flume]

that looks like a plater addon maybe??

[dense herald]

are u prot

[stuck mulch]

watafak battlegrounds? thats actually insane since i normally see headless chickens

@south flume u able to show win loss ratio?

[dense herald]

wait i just saw htats bgs

[stuck mulch]

ikr

[south flume]

I kinda am a headless chicken i swear lol 63/109 dont make fun of me 🤪

jk you can roast me

[rancid granite]

no one wants to roast the hulk

that just sounds unsafe

[stuck mulch]

ur rating dosent let me make fun of u

but do u really get that much rating even if u lose ?

[restive cobalt]

@south flume grats on the 2.4, I was like who TF is firetooth, considering Ive been in the rbg scene since it came out and didn't recognize ya, but keep at it!

It's def not easy queing without a solid healer, I was 80% w/l till today when I decided it was a good idea to just que solo, proceeded to go 0-6 lmao.

[stuck mulch]

can you even que with people?

ofc the other brackets but

[restive cobalt]

Of course, healers only though

[stuck mulch]

wtf

dats op

[restive cobalt]

As a war you really need a good healer u can depend on to push rated blitz. 0-6 without a healer, immediately 6-0 once one of my mw friends got on

[stuck mulch]

im sitting 50/50 win rate now, 12 games played

lost the last game cus a druid went mental

and refused to get flag anymore

[tough coyote]

how do i get arena frames

i cant find any addon for it

[copper fox]

Anyone have a healer that they’re not trash on and wanna duo q some bgb😏

[crystal laurel]

how do i get the conquest 2h weapon

if conquest is limited to 1600?

[violet fossil]

should get it by 3rd week

[crystal laurel]

3rd week?

as in the limit will increase?

[violet fossil]

yes

[crystal laurel]

ah

that sucks man

lol

[violet fossil]

it’s actually not bad

free conquest u don’t have to spend on

[crystal laurel]

does it keep our original conquest

like i think i should have 1800

[violet fossil]

weap*

[crystal laurel]

like for example since im maxed right now

should i spend ? or can i just do rated bg

[violet fossil]

spend

everyone’s gonna be maxed at 1600

[crystal laurel]

i see

ok

[violet fossil]

Tuesday everyone is at 2200

I think it’s 2200

so you get 600 more conquest

[south flume]

thanks haha and yeah first expac doing alot of pvp didnt play past first season of dragon flight and only did pve then on my dk

[crystal laurel]

ok

[south flume]

and yeah i pray for good healers havent queued with anyone so just been solo dolo luckily most the healers ive run into have been awesome

[crystal laurel]

if i do rated bg does it count towards my quest?

[south flume]

what quest?

[crystal laurel]

weapons of conquest

i just tested

i did arena

and didnt get any conquest

towards the quest

[south flume]

oh yes you have to win and only first of the day non-rated will give conquest. rated wins will give cq every time i think 1st time of day is more tho

like the lil chest next to the queue shows what youll get if you win

[pastel fossil]

does anyone know if a macro like this is possible?

If i have shattering throw it will cast it
But if i don't have that, it will cast wrecking throw
And if i have either, but they are on cooldown it casts heroic throw
And if i have neither, it will just cast heroic throw

[south flume]

im pretty sure that sounds feasible id just ask in the general chat

[stuck root]

Literally just put all three in a macro lol

Just put heroic throw last

#showtooltip
/cast shattering throw
/cast wrecking throw
/cast heroic throw

Lemme know if that works

Only thing that may not work is tooltip

[merry valley]

#showtooltip
/use [known:Wrecking Throw]Wrecking Throw; [known: Shattering Throw]Shattering Throw; Heroic Throw

This works, just tested it

A recomendation thogh

Even if you use this, keep Heroic Throw on a separate binding just in case. It's still useful to tag people about to cap bases in bgs or keep rogues in combat

[last echo]

How do you deal with Evoker DPS in Solo shuffle... they are unkillable

[stuck mulch]

dont go them

kill the other

[copper fox]

lol dude I just qd into a pres, dev, warrior team in 3s

Fucking toxic

Flying around

[stuck mulch]

yeah just full send the warrior at that point

🍭

[copper fox]

Problem is dev can literally solo team if left alone

[stuck mulch]

just gotta kill warrior faster than dev kill u

[copper fox]

We ended up making a swap to pres for the kill after communion

lol tru

[stuck mulch]

but yeah alot of casters are super annoying imo

frost mage, dev are just horrible

my alt is gonna be frost mage

be a part of the problem

[last echo]

the problem is then if you leave them. they free cast and do so much damage. the game i was in the evoker did on average 700-900k damage

Thats just insane

Then if you try train the evoker he just immunes immunes flys away. grabs someone flys away damage stun mobility. its and endless whirl on bullshit

[stuck mulch]

just leave then

[steady wind]

How much haste do we want?

[green agate]

worth getting an algari wep made for the embellishment

[stuck mulch]

i made it, its pretty cheap and we get 9 free tokens so just buy one more

[south flume]

🤣

[pure hornet]

Try masochism so when frost or dev kills you, you just nut on wall from extasy

[elfin sinew]

I’m climbing solo shuffle and I’m almost 1500/1600 for a free tier piece and I must say that we’re kinda tossed around by others lol

[thick reef]

https://tenor.com/view/chief-keef-nah-gif-9297337

im playing fury and i am tossing them around

[hot nymph]

Arms warr?

[fierce elm]

Cursed

[crystal harbor]

Is Mud's pin still apt? Fury Slayer > ?

[elfin sinew]

Fury slayer

[fierce elm]

Fury slayer

[teal bough]

does storm of destruction (pvp) talent healing reduction stack with moral strike?

or does it just save you from having to apply MS

[frank knoll]

can i go ascension instead of symbiousis for my crafted wep

[fierce elm]

Sure

You can do w.e you want nobody has a gun to your head

[rigid iris]

any reason people go more haste than others?

mud only has 3% haste 38% mastery, but #1 war rn has 16%haste 25% mastery

[fierce elm]

Preference and experimentation

[rigid iris]

interestesting

what do u rock

[fierce elm]

I would blast mastery

[sly bluff]

Just starting hitting pvp again after about 7 years, stupid question i'm sure but how the fuck are you supposed to deal with mm hunters? I'm 595 but get instagibbed by rapid fire and explosive shot

[hallow gull]

Went into a bg today eye of the storm. I'm not even joking 16 fury warriors out of 30 players

[fierce elm]

You in pve gear big dog?

[gloomy tree]

Questions since I've been a bit away from pvp. is the win a bg quest to win a rated bg or any bg is ok?

[fierce elm]

They specify on the quest

if its the random heraldry quest its rated pvp and epic bgs

[gloomy tree]

with queuing to an epic bg I would be able to get it no?

*queuing and winning

[fierce elm]

yes

[gloomy tree]

thanks!

[distant dagger]

How hard is it to get to 1800 in solo blitz? Is it more coinflip?

[proud breach]

[main apex]

Cant see my xp bar unless i hover over it. Anyone know how to fix that? Nothing is covering it

[rigid iris]

Yo is the embellish Symbiosis actually better than ascendance?

[chilly pivot]

prio order for abilitys? rampage over everything?

[fierce elm]

depends, do you want a random stat or vers guaranteed

[fierce elm]

basically yes

[fierce elm]

Have the same issue, didnt find a fix and just accepted it

[fierce elm]

It can be a coinflip, but asking how hard it is is impossible to answer

[main apex]

Really annoying

[chilly pivot]

how is the prio with execute , onslaught, bloodthirst, raging blow?

[fierce elm]

The same as the PvE rotation

Its literally the same prio list

[fierce elm]

I just accepted it tbh

Can get a weakaura if you want

but otherwise I dont have a fix for it

[sly bluff]

Partly, using 610 pvp gs's, still working on getting pvp gear but I can only source the algari green stuff atm 😦

[lavish quest]

Just be level 80, then you don't need an exp bar

[fierce elm]

Yeah thats why you are being böown up

[sly bluff]

tried pve, can't be bothered with the absolute shitshow of group comps and decided to go back to pvp so that's probably why i'm a wet nooooooodle.

[fierce elm]

Yeah

Full honor is 626

so yeah

[main apex]

I have WA but like cmon bliz!

[cinder thorn]

Wtf is blizz thinking not putting vers on most set pieces

Are any of you going for the set or just keeping regular pieces

Less vers like DF is OK but zero is a bit...

[lavish quest]

Set is for pve'rs, not you.

[main apex]

Then why is it when you upgrade the pvp gear it doesnt always have vers?

[lavish quest]

Because tier gear has set stats that don't change