pvp

[fierce elm]

Keep it going

[elfin sinew]

We don't have it easy against frost

[narrow compass]

Def not, and toss in Aff lock and it’s nightmare fuel

I go lock, I get slowed by mage and lock gates easily.

I go mage, lock free casts on me

I go healer, they both kill me

[wheat jay]

why would I use google when i can ask people

[elfin sinew]

we are not mobile so this is a hard counter

[narrow compass]

I pillar, I do no damage

[wheat jay]

wow doesn't tell shit about pvp

yes, this is pvp, go play

[narrow compass]

But we have to be able to win somehow?

[elfin sinew]

not really haha

balance isn't great imho

[fickle forge]

Nah nah we need more googled images of weight stacks

[narrow compass]

Also riding the struggle bus against boomkins

[wheat jay]

fun to have a convo about shit like that ngl

[thick reef]

my nan lifts this buddy. keep at it youll get there one day

[fierce elm]

You can

it's just a rough matchup

You just need to keep uptime

and honestly hope they fuck up

[narrow compass]

What’s happening most often is, healer gets CC’d

I get obliterated

[elfin sinew]

We are bound to be kited.. when you get there you just peel and hope for bad CD use or something

[narrow compass]

Or the 2nd dps gets obliterated

[fierce elm]

Your healer should not be sitting a fuckton of CC, enough so that you die

[narrow compass]

Agreed

[fierce elm]

but you will have to pop a defensive during it or you will die

[narrow compass]

I went with bitter immunity

[elfin sinew]

with warrior chasing casters it;s easy to lose line with your healer

[narrow compass]

Yeah

[elfin sinew]

it doesn't help if healer isn't very mobile

[fierce elm]

Bitter immunity doesn't do much tbh

[narrow compass]

No it doesht

[fierce elm]

but you have to be lucky, be aware of your healer and the CC he is sitting

[narrow compass]

But joe Fernandez suggested it

[elfin sinew]

go play retri or dk at this point haha

[fierce elm]

Retri is even worse

[narrow compass]

Been messing with his build

[fierce elm]

Play DK if you want a better chance lmao

But really, it's all about hoping they fuck up

[elfin sinew]

yesterday one of the shuffle games was against dk, frost mage, and holy paladin. My man, did I fucking rage

[narrow compass]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[fierce elm]

Like, even in shuffle, you have to just not lose 4 rounds

3-3 and you probably gain rating

[narrow compass]

Shit

[fierce elm]

4-2 and you gain rating

just try to really hammer that in, it's okay to lose

[narrow compass]

Shuffle I’m trying not to fall asleep during Queue

[elfin sinew]

yes but unfortunately it didnt went well for me

[narrow compass]

That’s the real struggle

Omg arms viable

[copper fox]

Exactly

[copper fox]

Ite

[narrow compass]

@fierce elm how did this dude have enough of the conquest heraldry’s to craft all those pieces?

[fierce elm]

get 9 from a random drop

then you buy 1

[narrow compass]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/us/area-52/río

Yeah but he’s got 3 pieces

Including weapon

I think I paid 10 alone for the wep

[elder mulch]

warlocked need to be fuckin nerfed

[fierce elm]

wdym

[elder mulch]

??????

[fierce elm]

He has bought

He has crafted weapon

[narrow compass]

Ok I see what he did

[elder mulch]

if u look like dis u good

[narrow compass]

He bought a cheaper piece of Conq gear and bought the heralrdys

[elder mulch]

cant craft much

[narrow compass]

Double radiant and on wep? Bc deeps is $$$$$?

[fierce elm]

wack

[wheat jay]

the fact that i shouldn't have to do that to get an understanding of the game is a different thing

you get 0 explanation of anything from the game

[copper fox]

Bro where’s your auth of depths

[elder mulch]

on my pve weapoin

[lavish quest]

As a warrior main, my brain is massive and I don't need an explanation

[copper fox]

So true

[wheat jay]

in all honesty tho

I don't think I'd ever play wow arena well if I was 100% playing by myself and not looking at guides

wow doesn't explain shit

not even the slightest thing that matters in arena

[copper fox]

Agreed… they should have whatever the dude above suggested. A bot arena with tutorials that run

[lavish quest]

The wow devs don't even know how arena works

So good luck with that

[wheat jay]

ye lmao

there's one guy that looks like shaggy deep in blizz hq basement

and he puts in some pvp changes

only he knows what dr's are

only he knows what pvp modifiers are

he's the last pvp dev

[narrow compass]

Bc pvp is a secondary…no, tertiary game mode.

Shit, it’s gonna fall behind Delves soon too

[lavish quest]

How does it feel to take a back seat to pet battles?

[narrow compass]

Maybe even pet b…

Haha

Beat me @lavish quest

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-jynx-pikachu-kiss-pulling-cheek-gif-12569528308911076528

Me doing pet battles 👆

[worthy fern]

Any others here winning dev mage hunter dk lobbies as arms or is it just me

@fickle forge

They don’t know

[elder mulch]

all losses to locks only just about

[lavish quest]

I've almost spent more overall time doing pet battle world quests than pvping this expac

[elder mulch]

locks the worst with frost mage

right after it

[narrow compass]

Yeah we were just discussing that

In between some weightlifting e-battle

[elder mulch]

im 70% hp before i even connect

sick game

[narrow compass]

Oh oh then you reflect something big and it just tickles them.

[worthy fern]

The fact that most of them are fotm rerolls is helping

[elder mulch]

reflect their shadowbolt and they just take nothing

[narrow compass]

Give us a talent that increases spell reflect damage by 200%

[lavish quest]

Warrior should have a40 yd range, change my mind.
If casters don't have to deal with the downsides of being a caster, why do I have to deal with the downsides of being a melee?

[narrow compass]

They stand there, with their hands on their hips like a pirate laughing at you

[lavish quest]

Every caster is basically all insta casts, or if you do kick them they have 18 spells on another school of magic...

So lame nowadays

[narrow compass]

My caster buddies cry that they’ve had to deal with melee for expansions

And it’s “finally their time”

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[fierce elm]

how can you be buddies with a caster

all my wow friends are dumbass melee players

[lavish quest]

Yeah, as the forum is full of casters complaining about melees when they're backpedaling and clicking while watching hen tai on the other screen

[narrow compass]

Heh

[scarlet barn]

artji?

[fierce elm]

artji

karg

you

bev

scoobz

tek

[narrow compass]

Can I be your friend too?

I only play melee

[fierce elm]

no

[narrow compass]

Or if I do play caster I suck at it

[narrow compass]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[elder mulch]

10th one

rat creatures

[worthy fern]

@fierce elm scoobz is an ele shaman

And a bitch

[elder mulch]

nvm free fucking game with 70% games facing warlock

[fierce elm]

Yeah but he was a dumb ass dh

Scoobz couldnt find the trolli candies at dollarstore @worthy fern

smh

[scarlet barn]

love you too buddy

[river walrus]

Casters with insane mobility, nearly untouchable by most melee with exceptions such as rogue. But they will always complain.

[worthy fern]

@fierce elm I’ll look if I see a dollar general

[fierce elm]

I NEED THE TABARDS

He asked Melissa to go to circle K

that was an hour away lmao

just to get me and him the code KEK

[worthy fern]

Circle k is ghetto

None near me

[fierce elm]

lmao

this was the dollar tree

I think

they are stealing our TABARDS

[worthy fern]

Actually might be one on the way to gym

[fierce elm]

WE NEED THE TABARDS

He first said no

then he sent him texting his wife asking her to do it lmao

[worthy fern]

Is it dollar general or dollar tree

[fierce elm]

uh

dollar general

they are pretty ass tabards

BUT

we need THEM

[worthy fern]

I like the crimson and be

One

[fierce elm]

yeah too bad its from Circle K

[worthy fern]

I can get it

What’s it worth to you

[fierce elm]

Uh

what the fuck DOES THAT MEAN

[distant cloud]

wtf is a circle k

[worthy fern]

Send peen

[fierce elm]

a gas station

lmao

[distant cloud]

where

i've been all over the us and i've never seen one

[worthy fern]

@distant cloud Who tf are you

and why you have my name

[fierce elm]

wtf

[distant cloud]

i'm your father

tek-son

[worthy fern]

Oh hi dad

[distant cloud]

are you being a good boy

[worthy fern]

No

[distant cloud]

excellent

[fierce elm]

no rp in #pvp

[distant cloud]

i've raised u well

[fierce elm]

also how have you never seen a circle K

they exist everywhere

[worthy fern]

Yea they’re pretty common

[fierce elm]

just sucks that its an US only promotion

[worthy fern]

“Been all over the us”

Lies

There goes my hopes for arms buffs

[fierce elm]

how the fuck is ret that high

[lavish quest]

Cuz ret pumping if you press ur buttons afro

[stuck idol]

Hey there, is there a good guide for fury pvp somewhere?

Just finished a solo shuffle where i did 80M less damage than a DK, so there's something wrong with me

[rancid granite]

bajheera has a good one on his youtube 🙏

[pure hornet]

The more stupid one is, the closer he is to reality :))

[ruby condor]

did he casted odin fury twice?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WJVNG1nQtQI

[verbal tangle]

He takes the Avatar casts Odyn's talent

Then uses Odyn's proper

[zenith marlin]

Me too

That talent fucks

Sometimes I use it so Odyn's Fury casts Avatar and baits defensives

Than I pop reckleness and real avatar after defensives bait

[trail basin]

Does it matter arms vs fury for pvp anymore? First expac back in ever, arms used to be the pvp way cause MS

[lavish quest]

Fury it a good amount better atm

[lethal sandal]

is fury going for 2 or 4set in pvp`?

[tight totem]

Big brain

[tribal wedge]

2

[coral narwhal]

Should I be prioritizing any particular class in bgs/arena? Anyone I should try to avoid? I'm trying to get into pvp.

[tawny fjord]

anyone got any tips or links to a good keybind guide for fury warrior with a razer naga mouse?

[fierce elm]

keybinds are pretty personal

[tawny fjord]

yeah but like, i use all twelve buttons on my mouse, plus an alt modifier and still feel like i need more

[fierce elm]

Yeah that's not logical at all

fuck are you binding on 24 buttons on your mouse lmao

[tawny fjord]

thats just whats on my mouse

[fierce elm]

Thats not 12 buttons + alt modifiers

[tawny fjord]

are you blind

actually?

[fierce elm]

Or is it

[tawny fjord]

please count

[fierce elm]

I didnt look lmao

Don't have to be angry

Oh shit that is 24 buttons

show your entire bar

just so we can see the entire thing and what you have on your bars rn

Like you can totally move some of that to your keyboard if you arent just limited to mouse, otherwise it would be shift modifiers

[tawny fjord]

thats all i use on my bars, everything else is just random shit like hearth and mounts and what not

[fierce elm]

Like, you can already remove one keybinding there by combining charge + hamstring

But why do you need more keybinds for is what I am wondering

[tawny fjord]

oh sorry thats my pve spec bar

[fierce elm]

kek

[fallen solar]

I have a 3 button mouse. 12 button mouse seems clutch

[fierce elm]

Disarm is a flexible button because you dont constantly run it, but I cant see why you need more binds

[tawny fjord]

thats my pvp spec, but i dont have shattering throw, intimidating shout, on my keybinds rn

[thick reef]

👎

[tawny fjord]

also for like focus target macros

[fierce elm]

I mean, you could add that with shift modifiers

if you dont want to use your keyboard

[fallen solar]

There are 6 Havoc DHs in the 2000 bracket in blitz and only 1 fury warrior

DH does excel in this playlist from what I have seen

[wheat jay]

dh at the moment doesn't excel in anything lmao

its blitz, its literally "roll less regarded team"

[verbal tangle]

Yup

[wheat jay]

the only meta there that counts is healers

cuz they carry that shit lmao

[fallen solar]

Blitz is zug zug

Orb map is at least

[lavish quest]

"Good game kid"

Only have a couple of bloody token gear too

[tight totem]

if i want to pick up the ww talents for random bgs what points do you think i should drop? like bloodcraze and ashen jugg?

[cinder thorn]

I hate kotmogu

Such fucking chaos

[tight totem]

i dont understand why so many people are not running sudden death

[dense herald]

why queues so long

[near inlet]

Is there a big difference between craft items and pvp vendor items to affect the game? Can I play only with pvp vendor items?

[rancid granite]

how tiny is your thumb

[tawny fjord]

not tiny at all. thats the problem, my hands are big af, fat finger shit all the time

[rancid granite]

lol

[low cobalt]

people are at work 🙂

[random cedar]

hi warrior players, Pres evoker here.

What counters the dmg you guys do?

I feel as tho when my partner drops below about 40% I can't pull him back up without major cooldowns.. advise?

[rancid granite]

i do that on keyboard i cant imagine mouse

[dense herald]

wdym work

[low cobalt]

lol

[dense herald]

its 8pm

im not na

im eu

[low cobalt]

people out enjoying irl?

[dense herald]

dispell troar

[low cobalt]

🙂

[dense herald]

people who play wow are not doing that

[low cobalt]

eh u'd be surprised

either way theres a reason cuz clearly q times are long

[lavish quest]

Walking away from us

[buoyant chasm]

So now the best embellishment is ascendance and not symbiosis?

[dense herald]

did they nerf symbiosis or why would it be

[low cobalt]

guys whats your reaction when ur about to kill a fury warrior but then you see he pops battlemaster trinket

[dense herald]

its joever

[buoyant chasm]

Idk, top warriors swapped to ascendance on murlok.io

[dense herald]

guys i have 100% winrate im insane

[low cobalt]

😂

[low cobalt]

how so

[dense herald]

well not rly

they can heal alot if they pop enraged regen

with bt from bladestorm talent

[low cobalt]

yea i get its smart but i cant help but to call them a pussy for doing it idk why

almost certain most warriors run dps trinket

and no one plays fury to survive they play it to do most dam

zug zug

[dense herald]

how u like my warrior

[low cobalt]

boy dress up like girl, very american

👌

[fickle forge]

Skullsplitter slaps man

[low cobalt]

how do you use it? just on cd with wound and rend up or only in burst windows

[fallen solar]

I play wow for about 8 hours out of my 12 hour shift at work lol

I work in wastewater so I just bring my laptop to work and play

[hallow gull]

Anyone have pvp talents for button masher hardstuck 1600?

[fierce elm]

I wonder if there are any pins

[fickle forge]

On CD and with TR

[low cobalt]

whats TR again?

[random cedar]

thunder roar

[low cobalt]

thanks

[thick reef]

dahooey dahooey BABABOOEY

[lavish quest]

How does anyone complain about fury when every other spec in the game has a passive 70% slow that beats the fuck out of hamstring?

[vagrant trail]

Someone echanted their weapon with Enchant Weapon - Authority of Radiant Power and is it worth it

[fickle forge]

Fury still dumb af

Nuke it

Make it a Z-tier spec again

[dense herald]

stfu

i want to enjoy this

[fickle forge]

Enjoy being a twinkass mf

[fierce elm]

dont make another person send pictures of his weights

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1284119130202570752/IMG_0247.png?ex=66e578a2&is=66e42722&hm=155d99e56ccc486ae2dc42e572d191f73d293e03894f35a8253b7b0ff6413407&

Wanna speak big, huh big guy?

[tawny fjord]

i too can use fake weights

[copper fox]

What lol

Those are calibrated kilo plates 😅

[fierce elm]

lmao

[thick reef]

i lift hard

real hard

[copper fox]

So hard

[thick reef]

so...(hard)

[tawny fjord]

fake calibrated kilo plates

[fierce elm]

They are actually IPF USAPL standard calibrated kilo plates made in the rogue factory to the pristine standard of lifting personally handled by the employee #45132 who is named Andreas Maximus James the Fifth

[copper fox]

They’re rogue but yea

True

James is wild

[tawny fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/republica-de-fifidonia-rick-idk-fake-it-looks-fake-gif-17266845

[copper fox]

Love when the fake plates make the bar bend BRÜTHER

[fierce elm]

lmao

it never stops its great

[fickle forge]

Fake barbell man 🙄

[copper fox]

Gets called out 2x - but yes it’s me that never stops 😂

[fierce elm]

lmao

You know you can just embrace the memes

and the jokes

you do know that right?

[wheat jay]

no

never joke

always serious

warriors dont laugh

https://tenor.com/view/dont-laugh-aint-funny-chris-tucker-angry-gif-13584516

[wispy cedar]

those are lame calves

[copper fox]

Alright I’ll merge my sarcasm with your jokes and embrace it. Your boy Kara takes my sarcasm too seriously tho

[fierce elm]

Low you are 500lbs relax

[wispy cedar]

i can bench 500 lbs

[lavish quest]

My point still stands, war having a melee range uses a gcd 50% slow while everyone else has passive 70% or worse case, applied but at 40 yd range 70% slow is lame as all hell

[fierce elm]

you cant even get out of the bed in the morning

[wispy cedar]

any tips for hpal??

[clear glacier]

Friends, for arms, Haste/vers Crit/vers or mastery/vers

pvp

[fickle forge]

Why am I center man lmao

I indulge the memes from the sidelines

[fierce elm]

looks like most are stacking haste

Karanze SUCKS

[fickle forge]

Kargish? Karanze? Never heard of them.

[lavish quest]

Karanze? More like Karazan

Gottem

[fierce elm]

Karanze? More like can't deal damage to ranged specs

[fickle forge]

Arms life man

[copper fox]

Idk I just talk ngl

[fickle forge]

That frost+boomkin game I literally did 80k dps for the first minite of the game

[lavish quest]

He just needs to learn how to train his dragon

[fierce elm]

Carrying his dog dps against every ranged spec

smh

[fickle forge]

I crush you on melee cleaves lil' bro

[fierce elm]

WE ARE EVEN

[lavish quest]

But who plays melee in 2024?

[rancid granite]

these fingers 100% AI

couldnt even get a fake google photo had to AI it instead

[scarlet barn]

Jesus man can you just move to something else? You clearly cant read the room

[copper fox]

What? lol

I didn’t bring it up

[fierce elm]

DONT STOP THE MEME OF THE WEEK RAZONKO

[copper fox]

Scroll up bub

[scarlet barn]

I do what i must

[fierce elm]

Gonna ride this thing until next wednesday

[rancid granite]

god bless AI for new memes

[copper fox]

After Wednesday we bring up my squat imo

[fierce elm]

this has nothing to do with your lifts

smh

[scarlet barn]

[copper fox]

It has everything to do with Razonkos name tbh

Mans a walking meme himself with that name

[fickle forge]

🎣

[fierce elm]

yeah get fucked nerd

[scarlet barn]

🙃

[copper fox]

True

[tawny fjord]

crazy how photoshopped that is

[rancid granite]

AI

look at the fingers

100% AI

[copper fox]

Chatgpt made it

Bing AI too good too

[pure hornet]

Frost just pve’s the arena
Cant stand this no more

[slender lion]

is bladestorm just a route freeing button?

[scarlet barn]

No. It does lot of dmg too

[fierce elm]

gotta be ready for them goes

[pure hornet]

Yeah but they can make a day feel sad

[late nacelle]

arms or fury?

I've played arms since tbc

[pure hornet]

Fury

I play fury since i lost arms

Just need a forehead for those

[stone sentinel]

guys we prefer Vers - Mastery gear or Master - Vers gear ?

[late nacelle]

vers

on every piece

secondary just go full haste or mastery

[verbal tangle]

Vers > Mastery > Haste > Crit

[stone sentinel]

ok ty

[late nacelle]

crit is meme stat

just crit anyway

5% crit?

just crit anyway

[verbal tangle]

I mean we also have free additive crit with Recklessness

[late nacelle]

arms meme tier this patch or?

[spice hornet]

yes

until the outliers get tuned at least

[elder mulch]

@wispy cedar

same scoob from DH Disc?

[fickle forge]

Eyo guys it's the real @wispy cedar

[late nacelle]

colossus?

[urban skiff]

bad news boys

streak still not breaking

[low cobalt]

hahahahaha

[fierce elm]

no

he is impersonating

[slender lion]

you guys playing onslaught in pvp?

[spice hornet]

yes

[wispy cedar]

Yes

[elder mulch]

@wispy cedar wasssup brodie

[urban skiff]

how good is ascendance embellishment?

[worthy fern]

@wispy cedar Hello real and true scoobert

@urban skiff with the additional embellishment it’s like 2-4 percent stats

Depending on which it procs

[urban skiff]

no real alternatives?

[worthy fern]

Hard to test them all but I don’t think so

At least on a weapon

I saw someone with that drop a bomb thing when your health is low but idk if it’s good

[urban skiff]

no double weapon embellishment right?

[wispy cedar]

ready to queue rmp

[urban skiff]

IT'S FINALLY OVER

THE NIGHTMARE ENDS

I would like to thank you all for your support, it means a lot to me in my time of need

[vagrant tangle]

unbelievable

you passed the fucking curse to me

[urban skiff]

no it's back

lose EotS

[vagrant tangle]

bro wtf is that tonight

room temp iq teammates

[copper fox]

@wheat jay dude you were right kfc ain’t it

[wheat jay]

lmao

its the most terrible comp in the game

but its the best comp in the game as well

KFChads understand that

[pure hornet]

Guyz how many bloodstone gems can we put

In sokets?

Saw magnus has only one, rest vers mast. And why he has a crit gem ? To remove cursed mastery encha?

[copper fox]

It was me being kited by my own hunter 24/7

lol

Felt good against mages tho

[wheat jay]

lmao

[vocal pendant]

warrior gamers am i imagining things or is it really hard to hit dev and pres evokers

[willow anchor]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what does upgrading pvp gear do if it scales in arena and bg? Is it just for world pvp?

[vocal pendant]

its for pve

you can leave it completely unranked if all you care about is pvp

[dense herald]

can someone help me

i turned on wm but i see alliance players as friendly

tf

someone told me in another server

it was cuz i was on dragonriding mount

weirdge

[willow anchor]

Thanks appreciate the answer

[cinder thorn]

It's because u shand for peace and love for all

[spice hornet]

cuz of his meta gem

[rancid granite]

something something we are SO back

[elder mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[cinder thorn]

Yeah 1% improvement I'm so excited

[dense herald]

the fuck

they nerfed us again

its over

joever

thyats crazy

[river walrus]

and frost mage and locks are not getting nerfed

[urban skiff]

still not enough to make arms roll over fury

[rancid granite]

rolling arms anyway

cause fury is god damn boring

[spice hornet]

pathetic buffs

[runic wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/r-kelly-crying-youre-killing-me-gif-13733410

[rancid granite]

any buff is a good buff

ill take it

[little lava]

what are u smoikin bro

[rancid granite]

nevermind the bladestorm nerf though 🤫

[spice hornet]

isnt slayer still better? and they've really only buffed mountain thane and at a cost of hitting bladestorm which they keep pushing dam into

for some reason

[violet fossil]

yikes the ua buffs

[urban skiff]

a nerf to bladestorm is a relative buff to thane and colossus

[little lava]

u smoking if u think ua hits

[violet fossil]

Someone a lock main

[little lava]

i have never played a lock before

[urban skiff]

afflic are beasts right now and I don't think it's anything to do with UA

[violet fossil]

Quit sucking their penis then

[spice hornet]

hahahah

[little lava]

being based means sucking someone penis

ok

[violet fossil]

Yikes

Idk about that one

[little lava]

typical warrior blaming every class but himself

[violet fossil]

I don’t even play warrior lol

When did I blame

[little lava]

then what the fuck are u doin here

[violet fossil]

What are you doing here

¿

[little lava]

telling u that affli got nerfed

[violet fossil]

It got buffed too

tho

:>

[little lava]

but it got buffed on weakier talents

also ua is predictable dmg

bolts for 2,5m are not

????????

[urban skiff]

bro what? this place is for everybody

[rancid granite]

warrior dont care about class

warrior only care who strong

[urban skiff]

100%

[wheat jay]

Real

[rancid granite]

damn my statement got me thinking of Valhalla Rising movie i need to rewatch that

[stone sentinel]

damn nerfed again

where is my fun 😦

I want to burst bladestorm and win 😦

[urban skiff]

i don't think bladestorm does much right now for scoring kills

for me it's almost entirely just a break from all the cc

[stone sentinel]

we will end up taking storm of steel with brutal finish

[urban skiff]

soon we will have SMF thane

and then colossus arms

guys there's a big buff to thane

[tribal wedge]

^^

[wheat jay]

Haha

[urban skiff]

let's be real here. Stormbringer enh is what thane should have been

even the animation is sweeter than thunderclap/thunderblast

[stone sentinel]

30m queue to get kited and struggle killing shit 😄

[spice hornet]

Warrior shuffles are the least enjoyable DPS spec shuffle imos

to play

[stone sentinel]

And sadly thats my way 😦

[acoustic lintel]

LOL arms catching strays from thunderous and now again with bladestorm due to Fury.

Thank you Furry dogs.

[stone sentinel]

Its only nerfed on fury spec tho no ?

[acoustic lintel]

No it's getting nerfed for arms

As well

[stone sentinel]

its not on the warrior thing its on the fury ?

ok ok

[acoustic lintel]

Idk what the logic is

From blizzard

[copper fox]

It was targeted specifically on arms too though. Which they technically didn’t have to

Kind of lame

[acoustic lintel]

No mage nerfes btw

[stone sentinel]

our burst is the only thing we have and they are taking it away slowly from us

[acoustic lintel]

Blizzard is lazy with tuning

[low cobalt]

#theytookourburst

[acoustic lintel]

They see fury needs nerf time to nerf arms as well lmao

Remove bladestorm from furry

[hot solstice]

nice buffs to destro lmao

[spark dune]

What do I do in a caster lobby in solo shuffle. It was me, a frost mage, dev evoker and ele shaman

Do I just perish?

[acoustic lintel]

Eat dirt

[low cobalt]

you apologize

[acoustic lintel]

Afk

[low cobalt]

for the losses you'll give to whoevers on ur team

[spark dune]

Yeah I just couldn’t stick onto anyone

Never wanted to break my keyboard until then

[urban skiff]

CURSE HAS BEEN RE-BROKEN

[tepid otter]

So do we get to play mountain Thane now?

[urban skiff]

always did

[violet fossil]

it’s normal from blizzard

they do it all the time

[urban skiff]

huh

I think I get what bigdam is doing, and it's kind of smart

He's crafting honor gear and putting sockets in it. Sockets stay when he recrafts it to conq later

[steep cairn]

Big brain

[urban skiff]

that means they're going to make a change that isn't a numbers thing

hotfixes are for tuning numbers, mostly.

[rocky thistle]

Do u get the set bonus gear to warrior? It looks really awful

[tall fox]

Fury the way atm?

[somber nimbus]

where to get proper pvp talents string?

[lavish quest]

Warrior F - tier now

[rancid granite]

impossible it was already F tier

[low cobalt]

why does magnus craft the hands in pinned message, its same ilvl as honor gloves, just for the embellishment?

[steep cairn]

Yes

[low cobalt]

gotcha

[urban skiff]

the true answer is it's bad right now but there's no way blizzard won't buff it to be more compelling in pvp eventually

[knotty socket]

So i had the quest to earn conquest and have almost maxed conquest for the week, but only got credit for 175. Am i boned bros

[urban skiff]

try relogging

[sleek wave]

damn the moment fury becomes good it gets nerfed to the ground

[urban skiff]

literally not nerfed to the ground. Those changes barely affect your damage output

[sleek wave]

isnt 15% of big cleave damage a big nerf?

[urban skiff]

No

[sleek wave]

or im missing something asking legit

[urban skiff]

If a 15% nerf to a 45 second cooldown is enough to break fury for you, then you're underperforming significantly

Some players right now are playing without OF

at least two players in the top50 don't even pick up OF

[sleek wave]

Either way im still gonna play fury. First time its viable i dont wanna go back to arms for the moment

[urban skiff]

Good

fury is always best

even when it isn't

[sleek wave]

im solo shuffle tho no friends for 3 hahaha

[urban skiff]

those are shuffle

[sleek wave]

i did try last season tho just got to 1.8k with fury

[urban skiff]

closed down murlok but iirc more people are playing without OF in 3s

[sleek wave]

really hard to push with the bug to slaughterhouse last time just going for duelist

[urban skiff]

I only did fury in DF

and then went arms for S4 because fury was fotm

[sleek wave]

so they are going the berserker's torment if no OF

[urban skiff]

no clue, you'll have to do your own spying

[sleek wave]

yea gotta take advantage of the situation i guess nerf is a nerf anyways just want the glowy transmog wep

[stable stone]

Yo, is there a pvp gearing guide for first week? What should i do/craft/buy? Why those crafting pvp badges exist , just to get pvp embelishments?

[plucky sapphire]

[stable stone]

Brother i was born in another millenia

Where are those pins? Which channel?

I see now, thank you brother

[umbral gate]

I'm reading the notes on mmo-champ, and the Fury nerfs are only listed under class nerfs, not under PvP like the other classes. Is it to be assumed it's applied to both?

[wheat jay]

Yes

You'd have another note saying sth like "not applied to pvp" or whatever it was

[dense herald]

The one they fixed?

[dense herald]

Why would u play without of

Its goated

Does big dmg

[fickle forge]

Also very misleading when the lower end of T50 rn is like 1600

[thick reef]

Has this happend yet or is happening on reset?

[rancid granite]

oh that's Tuesdays notes

[thick reef]

Ohhh thankyou bra

[thorny lily]

Any reason why people like Magnusz and Bajheera are using their 10 Forged Glad Heraldry to go weapon when it looks like we get 2 free weapons week 3?

[worthy fern]

@fickle forge how tf arms catching a nerf

[fickle forge]

Fury crossfire

[worthy fern]

It’s bs

[fickle forge]

Bladestorm was kinda dumb ngl

Did a 3M BS non-crit on some guy

[worthy fern]

In arena?

[fickle forge]

Yeah

[worthy fern]

How?

Blade storm tick?

Or total dmg

[fickle forge]

Total

[worthy fern]

Oh

Yes it’s dmg is good

[fickle forge]

Just stack up the slayer thing and you got 3M AoE, not including Unhinged

[worthy fern]

How did you hit that fat execute

Playing jugg?

[half flame]

anyone got a prot pvp BG spec I could look at

[mild ember]

Am I dumb if I still play arms? I hate fury. 😒

[random cedar]

Nahhh theres some arms players up there on murlok io... Viable for sure. Will come down to your performance and execution.

Remember to kick those healers when they mispositioned no matter the spec youre on

Most games are won by better game knowledge and decision making vs the actual spec itself. And arms seems playable, just not BUSTED

[mild ember]

Thx bro. I just love being so tactical as arms.

[south flume]

to whomever was raging about weedtyler i made sure to fold his ass

[south flume]

whatchu mean two free weapons there is another quest after the first one? also with the crafted one you can embellish it so thus it might be better.

there is another embellishment that will double your embellishments so weapon paired with that is kinda crazy op

[torn sigil]

best way to farm bloody tokens? do i need to complete the campaign?

[fickle mango]

go after every bounty or warcrate. there is a chance they drop vicious blood stones. they also all give honor, conquest, and sparks (if in the zone)

[torn sigil]

ty

[abstract kayak]

Yoo, any high ranking warriors on rn

I'm 2.2k xp myself, but I'm confused about a gear choice that Bajheera made

Bajheera took the tier set chest piece for fury, but it gives haste + crit. Why not do the pants? They give mastery + haste??

Literally every other warrior at high rank took pants. I'm taking pants

[thorny lily]

As fury it gives 2 weapons. I saw another video of a monk and they only had 1 option for a 2h staff or something, so the rewards are normalized across classes to fill all weapon slots.

[narrow compass]

Wow thats broken

Anyone spending their Catalyst on the 2 pc???

[thorny lily]

The issue is one of them is Crit/Verse, and you obviously can't do a Nerubian Embellishment

[narrow compass]

ahh!

[low cobalt]

He says all the time “haste to taste” meaning he believes just get the amt of haste u personally want

So my assumption is he tailoring his gear to his personal preference

[narrow compass]

What are the secondarys on each of those weps?

b/c im def thinking of going back to arms for 3's

but sticking fury for solo & bgs

[plucky sapphire]

Vers/mast and vers/crit

[frozen lava]

what are you guys enchanting on cloak?

[verbal tangle]

DN

[cerulean trail]

Ok wrong chat

[autumn fiber]

Will Colossus or Slayer be better in PVP after the patch?

[earnest hearth]

Hi I'm new to arenas but I can push butans, I'm struggling with understanding target prio in solo skirms and some of the key skills to watch for on interrupts etc.; the kind of stuff that is picked up from experience or from others.

I'm looking for some recommendations on resources; preferably a write up, cheatsheet, or some meta discussions on what the other classes do and to watch for from a warrior pov. I do watch warrior streamers like Magnus but I'm looking for something a bit more infodump; any recommendations?

[frozen lava]

:(

[winged crystal]

i just got the token to get a free tier piece. because i'm raiding i realistically should use this to get a pve piece. does that mean im essentially behind a week in terms of pvp gear if i use this on the pve set

[verbal tangle]

Yes, because you didn't get a pvp tier piece

[winged crystal]

damn, thanks

[verbal tangle]

That's how it's always been though

[winged crystal]

maybe in modern wow, i havent played pvp+pve in a long time

[zenith marlin]

sets dont work for pvp tho, rite?

[verbal tangle]

Are you serious?

[zenith marlin]

y

[earnest hearth]

If you catalyse a PvP piece does it go to 639?

[torn sigil]

y

[earnest hearth]

Ty

That's kinda huge

[knotty socket]

im cooked

[dense shoal]

nobody can finish the quest until after reset anyways

[lyric violet]

is arms back boys?

[torn sigil]

barack❌ joever☑️

[knotty socket]

but will i even be able to finish after reset

[urban skiff]

Actual rating doesn't matter, only rank. It's not like enh players where there are like 5 players. Fury is very popular.

And finally, murlokio ratings are behind what is happening in the real world. Despite catching up and taking over the 50th person i was never shown in other seasons. (as evident by 50th player being above 1800 now)

[urban skiff]

you're fine, they're going to fix it

[hot nymph]

Imo rank is fucked up as well Im rank 2 arms warr and i have no idea what im doing

[urban skiff]

that's a better example of smaller sample size with better players choosing the stronger choice

[hot nymph]

No what i meant was in response to your OF comment

[urban skiff]

m8, top is top

whether you know what you're doing or not. Take pride in your results 🙂

frost is fiiiiiine

[analog topaz]

I am so fucking close to 1600 for my 4th tier piece

Give me chads blizzard please

[low cobalt]

is it just me or is it hard to live lol i pop dbts, def stance, ignore pain, rally and i still die

[gritty moth]

Damn nice. Did you raid to get the others?

[dim flame]

Question, the set pieces, do we need to use the catalyst with a pvp piece of gear to change it over or do you guys just use a regualr piece of gear? I am looking at guides and the items doest show pvp.

Warsculptors Babrbute

[analog topaz]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

FUCK

THAT

WAS

HARD

MY ARM HURTS

[analog topaz]

Yeah

2 raid tier

1 catalyst

now the token

[urban skiff]

use it with conq or bloody token gear

it works on all armor specific slots + cloak, but obviously only 5 will give tier bonus

[urban skiff]

pvp is literally printing gold

absolutely no problem affording enchants

[south flume]

oh wow that clutch i thought it was a choose one type quest reward

[hallow gull]

How do you deal with MM hunters and locks ?

[tender quiver]

Is catalyst the only way to get PVP tier pieces now (except for the 1600 token)?

[stark agate]

Is making my pvp weapon crit/haste as arms troll

[remote cosmos]

i believe u would want some verse in that xD

[stark agate]

a lot of players cap vers at 30% don't they?

[remote cosmos]

i think thats the first softcap. not too familiar with it myself

[worthy wagon]

What’s the best way to deal with frost mage, healer 2s?

As fury

[still maple]

does anyone know anyone in US that can do R5 pvp chest?

[fierce elm]

yes

[gritty moth]

Arms doing better than Fury atm?

[tribal wedge]

nop :/

[wise cargo]

Go haste vers

[fierce elm]

crit haste the fuck

[pure hornet]

I focus healer

[stone sentinel]

do we still have embelishment for pvp ? which one whould we take ?

[pure hornet]

Ye but i must make 9 sokets

Not waste on ah atm.

Or are you capped?

I only saw magnus with 9 gems

Rest of planet earth is at 3-4

[vagrant tangle]

Can confirm

Am at 4

[pure hornet]

Mud has 3

And mud is top 3-4 planet

[vagrant tangle]

Wait, are you counting the blasphemite?

If not then 3

[urban skiff]

I'm selling them right now when the price is high, saving the gold. When we get further into the season I can buy the gems I need at a fraction

Whether I have sockets or not right now isn't going to make me suddenly win dramatically more

[pure hornet]

True

[urban skiff]

although 10% movement speed does sound ok

[wraith sluice]

is RA or AM the way to go for solo shuffle ?

[urban skiff]

sure looks like AM

if i were top50 I'd mess with people and always log out in SMF spec

[rapid shore]

:D

[stone sentinel]

we can craft pvp 2h sword ?

[rapid shore]

ye

[stone sentinel]

DANG

what is the fastest way to get forged gladiator thing ? just spam queue or world content or random bg ?

[mellow arch]

hey, any good pvp warrior here ? (quick questions too ask)

[stone sentinel]

ok checked its a only buy or quest thing

we have no weekly chest anymore right ?

[limber relic]

Sadge

Ofc we get nerfed and other classes gets buffed

[fierce elm]

epic bgs, rated pvp

[fierce elm]

Arms and Fury good in PvE, Fury real good in PvE and PvP

so yeah

[limber relic]

Yeah. Gutted.

[fierce elm]

so this was expected

[limber relic]

I mean kinda. In pvp fury is not as op as ppl make it seem tbh

mages/rogues/ww/dks makes my life a hell

[fierce elm]

Yeah, but it was strong in both aspects

[proud breach]

😄

[pure hornet]

Guys where is mercenary mode

In dorn?

Cant find wilson

[midnight mason]

Bruh this furry

[limber relic]

and i thought i was doing quite well

D:

oh nvm. murlok.io is bugged. r1 fury on eu is 2140

[urban skiff]

murlok.io is perpetually behind

[stone sentinel]

On murlok io we have more ascendance on discord it says Symbiosis who should I follow ?

[urban skiff]

choose a warrior you agree with and follow what they do

trying to discern what is best from looking at 50 people is overwhelming and you aren't going to get the arguments behind their choices

[stone sentinel]

Ascend is cheaper 😄

[fierce elm]

it aint accurate

[fickle forge]

Go with cheaper, embels are garbanzo

[limber relic]

ive got symbiosis and my reasoning is that ascension gives 300 stats more than symb but is random so ur 50% to get "bad stats" but with symb you get your prio stats 100%

stat prio imo Vers=mastery>haste>crit

[limber relic]

^

[stone sentinel]

Symbiosis take 1% hp can make the diff between life and death

[pure hornet]

I try, i look at magnus but he plays mostly 3’s and i play 2’s

Mud is the champ for 2’s but he staks mast, and magnus has a bit of haste too

[limber relic]

its 2% with other emblishment

but

pain and gain makes it 0=/=

[pure hornet]

Does anyone know where is mercenary mode in dorn?

[limber relic]

pain and gain is 2% every 10s

[urban skiff]

good observation but you need to also consider how bad the bad stats are.

If the relationship is 2.1 2.0 1.9 then the bad stats are still good stats. If the relationship is 5.0 2.0 0.1 then the bad stats are really bad

[main apex]

Whats our best use for valorstones?

[limber relic]

idk what those numbers are

[pure hornet]

Ty

[urban skiff]

like statweights but without the bias

[urban skiff]

zero use case for pvp

use them to make pve easier

[limber relic]

i dont understand

[urban skiff]

I don't want to explain it

[limber relic]

wait i was wondering with ascension u only get 1 stat right?

not all 4

[urban skiff]

Absolutely no offense meant, it's just a lot of typing that'll result in people complaining about stat weights instead of understanding the earlier point

big task little reward

[urban skiff]

i guess i can test it

[main apex]

Guess just upgrade pvp gear for better pve crossover?

[limber relic]

cuz if its all 4 then ascension is better 100% but i assume its only 1 stat

[main apex]

Can you convert them to anything instead of spending them?

[urban skiff]

if you do wq stuff in pve gear like me, then yeah, you can make it marginally easier with valorstones

[main apex]

no conversion though?

[limber relic]

either way you're overcomplicating it.
Ascension gives u 1780 random stat
Symbiosis gives u 1490 vers

[urban skiff]

i can only seem to proc one ascension

but it flips what the stack does whenever i get a new stack

that's wild

[wraith sluice]

can someone post an actual pvp talent build for playing solo shuffle ... seems like the pinned one is outdated ?

[urban skiff]

murlok.io

whatever they're using is working for them

[wraith sluice]

kk

thy

[limber relic]

either way you're overcomplicating it.
Ascension gives u 1780 random stat
Symbiosis gives u 1490 vers

[fierce elm]

I would rather have the vers rn

rather than the random stat

tbh

[limber relic]

my argument

right there

[fierce elm]

Can guarantee 2-4% of vers

rather than randomly getting crit kek

[limber relic]

1% vers = 800 stats
1% hast = 700 stats
1% mast = 500 stats

so 1500 vers = 2% dmg 1% dmg reduct

ish

[urban skiff]

fury is unique in that crit as stat is mostly not useful

[fickle forge]

Fury stats

[limber relic]

HUH

[urban skiff]

you mean vers in 50 seconds?

[fierce elm]

Yes

[urban skiff]

takes 50 seconds to stack

[fickle forge]

Fury stats

[fierce elm]

Id still rather have that

But thats me

not likr you cant recraft anyways

worst case scenario

[urban skiff]

I'm playing the gambling spec right now so the more random the better

[fierce elm]

I dont use smart brain

I use dumb brain

[fickle forge]

Enh buffs again man

They've almost buffed this spec by 100% at this point

[urban skiff]

overall nerfed

wolf uptime halved

the pve nerds are saying the total is a 6% nerf

[fickle forge]

: )

PvP enh cares mostly about ascend or primal wave anyway

[urban skiff]

fuck pee wave in the ass

I wish i understood what ratio of haste and mastery i should be wanting to max stormbringer procs

[fickle forge]

Stormbringer is whatever when you have frost queen for resets

Just stack haste

[urban skiff]

I noticed bigdam is going with less haste and more mastery

but he's also dumping vers

or rather, he's using crafted jewelry and weapons so he ends up at 3k less vers than others

[limber relic]

im kinda doing the same

[urban skiff]

I don't think it's a bad idea

[limber relic]

crafted ring + neck so i lose 2100 vers

[urban skiff]

I just don't understand his decision to then have a mastery vers and a haste mastery ring

[limber relic]

idk who bigdam is so i cant check pvp him

[dense herald]

RA is better

trust

[urban skiff]

RA is more funner

[limber relic]

with Anger managment ur reck is like 50% less cd

so lines it with roar

so every 45s u get roar+reck+odyn

• BS

[limber relic]

ra just not worth it

[civic turret]

How do you win solo ranked bg's? is there some premade trick to it?

[dense herald]

im doing so much dmg with ra

[dense herald]

roar is 1.5

[fossil mortar]

Question, in solo RBGs, do they try to enforce that you lose? Cause after winning 10 in a row, I started to get into groups who AFK at spawn and play it like honour farmers. A loss is -20-30 a win is +3-8
Is this normal?

[dense herald]

r u taking a point out of str to get 45

[fossil mortar]

gotta do 4-8 wins to make up for one loss is not fun

[limber relic]

roar is 45

[urban skiff]

the game's goal is to make your MMR and CR the same. Your MMR starts ahead and determines who you play against. If your MMR is higher than your abilities you'll be facing teams that beat you and you lose.

So yes, the game is trying to enforce that you lose

[fossil mortar]

So winning that many in a row was bad for me, got ya

[urban skiff]

no

whether you win 10 in a row and lose 10 in a row or win 1 lose 1 ten times is the same

[fossil mortar]

Then what can I do, to get out of my hell?

Just lose enough I guess

[urban skiff]

win more

what hell

what are you talking about?

[civic turret]

its litteraly impossible to win even 1 solo rbg, i'm 0-7 people just dont care and play like its casual bg

[fossil mortar]

Well, I gain 3-8 a win, and lose 20. Meaning MMR and CR is imbalanced.
That tells me my CR is higher than my MMR. Correct?

[urban skiff]

generally that can't happen

[fossil mortar]

If it wa equal, I would lose/gain the same

[urban skiff]

your MMR starts at 1500+ and your CR starts at 0

[fossil mortar]

Well, my situation what do

[urban skiff]

your mmr goes up with wins and down with losses. The bigger the streak the more MMR swings either way

[dense herald]

i found this guy in pug for 3s

KEKW

[urban skiff]

what a beast

here's mine

tell me i'm gonna be ok

[remote cosmos]

u will be ok

[fossil mortar]

If you understand the system, please. Cause winning 3 pts and losing 20 is soulcrushing

[urban skiff]

first win was my 15th match, absolutely wild season start

[urban skiff]

you're losing more CR because you're losing to people the system thinks you should be beating based on your MMR.

Just keep playing and stop looking at your rating

what your actual rating is does not in any way change how you play, it's entirely psychological and you can only lose motivation, not gain it

[fossil mortar]

So soulcrush is all there is

Got ya

[urban skiff]

The only thing that matters is 1600 for tier token

It's as soul crushing as you allow it. Make your soul stone and crush the crusher

Again my advice is to not look at your rating

Like at all, just ignore it and keep playing

if i could, i would mod so I can't see it at all

[fossil mortar]

One day, I will win and my rating will have gone up - just need a 8 streak

[hot nymph]

Played some fury in solo shuffle

Feels amazing

Arms is a fuckin truck

[fossil mortar]

You should play Fury as nerfs are coming. Enjoy it while it lasts

[hot nymph]

Naah i dont wanna get spoiled with it anymore xd

The burst is amazing for finishing games

And damage without modifiers is solid as well

Actually able to kill healers too

[fossil mortar]

Only healer I kinda struggle with on the regular, is dragon healers. Rest I at least feel I can efficiently drag down over time.

Any tips Vs drakes?

(rbg not arena)

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-popcorn-funny-funny-popcorn-watching-tv-gif-15406698795416939620

people who blame mmr and elo hell are hilarious

[dense herald]

Its not that big of a nerf now that i see

15% odyna fury

Its a nerf for aure but not to make us Z tier

[hot nymph]

Yea dps wise its not a big nerf but the thing is right now burst dmg is what wins u games generally

Arms and fury seem to have similar dps in solos with fury pulling a tiny bit ahead

Avatar roar into of combo is what helped me finish lots of games

[rancid granite]

fury still gonna remain same tier

[hot nymph]

That part will suffer a lot

[fossil mortar]

I am just crushed by why it happens so harshly. I don't mind juggling +10/-10, but +3/-20 is a gutpunch on morale

I don't blame the system for my loss, I blame my inability to affect the game enough.

Simply, if the solution was to lose games to even out MMR and CR, well then that is what I gotta wait to happen. It just is a drag to wait for the system to slot me in to my level

[rancid granite]

you're like overthinking it /way too much/

play and keep playing, do your best and try to improve, and you climb

[fossil mortar]

Sure, but I think you get where I am coming from

[rancid granite]

1 or 2 games doesn't really tell anything it takes time and many games

[fossil mortar]

Ye, but once the mental is "I need to win 8 in a row to gain", it is hard

[rancid granite]

well drop that mental then 😛

[fossil mortar]

A lot easier said than done

[rancid granite]

you're only making yourself believe you need to win 8 in a row to gain which is not even true

win some lose some; keep playing if you wanna climb

[fossil mortar]

It should even out at some point, but when you get to do 2 games a day - and that is the data and feedback the game gives. It is grim

[rancid granite]

well thats just the nature of competitive sports, aka pvp

[fossil mortar]

Yep, I just wish MMR wasn't inflated

From my side that makes sense, better to build up, than down

[rancid granite]

i don't even know what that means 'cause small warrior brain

i just know you play and win you climb

better you are more you climb

stronger you are more you lift 💪

[fossil mortar]

Me weak warr, me belong in 1400 club. Game say you go 1500. I win, I play with 2k boii at start. They carry.

Time pass. Stronger boii keep climb. Me 1600. Me belong 1400. Me go down.

Me prefer me start 0. Me push up, not as many stronger boii. They climb past. Me go up to 1400 and then climb slow

[fallen solar]

My work set up

Yes I need to clean my laptop but working here it’s pointless

[rancid granite]

i dont think thats how that works 👀 just keep playin and it all evens out