pvp

[onyx marlin]

ok?

[hallow tiger]

I bought conquest gear

[onyx marlin]

you can use catalyst on conquest gear

transform it into a tier + the free 1600 one

2p

[dense herald]

not even close BABY

[hallow tiger]

And where do I get that free 1600 piece ?

Sorry I haven’t played for 4 years I’m so lost

Ohhh

Rating

Okay

Sorry for dumb questions

[dense herald]

can u craft weapon

or next week

[cyan stump]

Is the conquest gear the only thing that we use catalyst tier for?

[prime solar]

The catalyst will not allow you to make 1 pc pvp gear and 1 pc pve gear seperately in one week, right?

[urban skiff]

It can.

[vagrant tangle]

what to get with token from 1600? any ideas?

[urban skiff]

save it

If you don't know what to do with it, wait and see what blizz does with balance changes

[vagrant tangle]

hmm

[worthy fern]

Just use it on an expensive piece with vers

How is that complicated

[vagrant tangle]

I could sacrifice vers to get legs which give haste/mastery which are bis stats for arms

but not vers :/

other pieces are crap

only headpiece is worth

which I already got

[thick reef]

legs

refer to pin

[vagrant tangle]

oh shit new pin mb

ty

[thick reef]

[dense herald]

i reflected it just now in bg

u just have to have a feeling

when the scums

want to coil u

[river walrus]

I have never been so miserable playing warrior in a lobby with evoker/frost mage/lock and rdruid

[lyric violet]

what embelishments for fury boys?

[buoyant chasm]

best enchant on weapon for pvp? radiant power or depths?

[urban skiff]

what is this nonsense

[lyric violet]

dude warlock is wild Lol

2 mill lol

[urban skiff]

not just 2 m

it's 2m and 700k in under 1 sec

What MMR did you guys start sBG with?

because I'm on my 4th loss and still above 1600

with zero wins

[frail badge]

how hard is it to get 1800 now in solo queue bg or solo queue arena? since the season is new and i think you gain rating quicker later in the season

[urban skiff]

stupid easy

[frail badge]

thanks , im doing solo bg right now

[pure hornet]

do you guyz maco recklesness with avatar?

[frail badge]

i am 1344 so far

[frail badge]

i do

i use macro that i got from bahjeeras recent fury guide video

[urban skiff]

it depends on your spec, if you play warrior then you're gucci, if you're playing enhancement you better grit your teeth and lube up

[frail badge]

lol thanks, after warrior i was going to do hunter and then maybe rogue, mage or warlock

i just like collecting the sets for classes i like

[urban skiff]

what is this

getting completely stomped again

[buoyant chasm]

best weapon enchant for pvp?

[lyric violet]

radiant

[fierce elm]

thats not entirely true

both radiant and depths are good

get whichever is cheaper

[amber heron]

Dw guys one day i am going to invest a substantial amount of money to make all 3 mage specs unviable permanently

Or at least 1 day

A warrior can have a fair chance

[gloomy raven]

Real talk, what do we do against dev evokers because my god am I hitting a brick wall when fighting them.

[ruby condor]

how to deal as much damage as i can as fury when i do burst rotation becouse on dummy sometimes i do 800k sometimes i do 400k crits

[lament brook]

hello i have finish i few bg blitz and say prot pvp is fun 😉.

[urban skiff]

6 blitz losses in a row now

down at 1200 or below MMR now and still getting rolled with all the stuns roots slows cyclones fears when i show up anywhere

[cyan stump]

For weapon crafting do you make a public order? What about R5 requiremnt?

[ruby temple]

Im trying to figure out if r5 is required too or if the materials used matter all other then the heraldries

[urban skiff]

fuck ranks

[cyan stump]

So ranks dont matter for pvp?

[urban skiff]

please for the love of god just read and watch the pins

or read the tooltips

in the game

[cyan stump]

I have

[gaunt shuttle]

anyone seen the new pvp enchant yet

[hot nymph]

I switched to fury to test it out and it says 25min shuffle que time

wtf

[rare jacinth]

Radiant Authority vs Radiant Depths?

[urban skiff]

shuffle is 1 of each spec

you'll have long queues playing anything fotm

[empty raptor]

can you get grand marshal claymore tmog with 1800 sbg?

[prime solar]

Yes. I'm getting ranks as I hit 1600 in blitz

[white zodiac]

Which gem's are we taking? mast/vers or pure vers?

[empty raptor]

noice

[pure hornet]

GUYZ

how do you farm bloody tokens fast?

xcept the 1k quest?

[empty raptor]

i think its capped at 1,350. i just did some world pvp chests and buncha sbg and im capped without the 1k quest

[white zodiac]

same here. doing all wq's was enough i think

[thick reef]

teehee

[zenith marlin]

Try to hit them really hard

[urban skiff]

8 losses in a row with zero wins

[zenith marlin]

If that don't work, try hit harder

[urban skiff]

Idk what's going on but being under 1500 rating is wild

[vagrant tangle]

1600 is wild as well

[zenith marlin]

Usually there is a certain amount of damage that will kill any player

Also consider this isn't off-season, this is the day of release

[urban skiff]

unprecedented coordination of cc

for sub 1500s

[vagrant tangle]

it's a mix for me

[zenith marlin]

3 months into season you will face different opponents at sub 1500 than you do now

[urban skiff]

I shouldn't be staying ssub 1500 for long

[zenith marlin]

Alotta people you face rn might be ex-glads having their first few games. (this can be your copium)

[vagrant tangle]

thanks im using it

[grand galleon]

unexpected for a solo queue environment with 8 randoms

[vagrant tangle]

no I think he means it

[urban skiff]

no i mean they're executing cc really well

[grand galleon]

I played with a few R1s

and that was nice

[urban skiff]

roots and slows and fears and stuns and grips. I spend more time waddling than going anywhere

[grand galleon]

oh sorry meant to say unexpected

[vagrant tangle]

bro same

[urban skiff]

And idk what it is about dks and warlocks but they're slowing me down a LOT

[zenith marlin]

I miss in BFA when Bladestorm would randomly trigger from bleed damage and break CC

Was so funny

[urban skiff]

like not going anywhere

[grand galleon]

saw a blood DK man handling a healer non stop

dude was out of the fight

[vagrant tangle]

yup,. 18% speed is my record

[zenith marlin]

Warlocks have that mage slow

[hot nymph]

I proudly pulled a 0/6 at 1800 rating

[zenith marlin]

Just headbutt DKs tbh

They are pretending to be melees

They're mages in my book

Casting magic and shit, runes? Bleh

[vagrant tangle]

evoker fc in blitz is broken btw

[urban skiff]

this is blitz i'm burning rating in. 0-8 and sub 1300 mmr

[vagrant tangle]

also I saw a dk on a horse zooming past everyone with the flag

never thought Id see the day

[urban skiff]

I had no issues in blitz in the pre-season but this time everything is upside down

[vagrant tangle]

its defo harder now

but I think agmius is right

lots of good players climbing

[urban skiff]

I suspect something is wrong with the rating gains so really good players aren't pulling far enough ahead. But that's really hard to prove

[hot nymph]

Meant to imply not much different in solo shuffle 😄 frost mage\evoker\ww monk completely shuts down arms

[vagrant tangle]

once I hit 1600 I am getting ~10-15 rating per win

which is depressing

[urban skiff]

This is enhancement i'm playing around on. I always test the waters before heading in on my main

[hot nymph]

Ahh, dont know about that but yea its sad for arms xd

[vagrant tangle]

people in shuffle are bullying me to respec to fury lmao

[wispy gulch]

Anyone able to craft the epic 2h pvp sword (Algari) - can big tip

[urban skiff]

tell them you can go prot if they want you to change

[hot nymph]

Yea truly depressing

[urban skiff]

always give them a worse option

[vagrant tangle]

noted

but cba with shuffle

cba with arena in general

it's not for me

I get too stressed

reached my peak in SL 2100 never again

[fierce elm]

lmao

its just pixels

[vagrant tangle]

was nerve wracking

no I know

my stupid brain doesnt

planning to get to elite in blitz if I can

[urban skiff]

the thing about irrational feelings is, you can't rationalize them away

[fierce elm]

I got over all of that by playing league and fighting games tbh

used to get mad shaky

now its w.e

[vagrant tangle]

fighting games are a different kind of animal

[urban skiff]

I've been in martial arts tournaments and it wasn't even 1/10th as nerve wrecking as playing arenas

[fierce elm]

Spent weeks in guilty gear just labbing never playing online

[vagrant tangle]

somehow I can believe that

[fierce elm]

then decided to just step in and say fuck it

[urban skiff]

Idk what it is about pixels, maybe because WoW has such a direct connection to our dopamine centre

[vagrant tangle]

such nice art style that game

[urban skiff]

lizard brain want win

[fierce elm]

Being aware that a loss is part of the game helps

[thick reef]

the trick to arenas is to never give a fiddlers fuck

[vagrant tangle]

that's what everyone always says

[urban skiff]

mine is kahlua in my coffee

[vagrant tangle]

but again, can't rationalize the irrational

[urban skiff]

ratio 1:1

[vagrant tangle]

blitz is better for me because while personal agency is low, it's also kind of a lottery

the enemy could be shit or your team could be shit

you don't really matter either way

[urban skiff]

problem is I guarantee that my team will be at least 1/8th shit

as proven by my shit performance today

[vagrant tangle]

you'll get out of the loss streak as we all do haha

its demoralizing af though so I get it

[urban skiff]

not if i give up before winning

[vagrant tangle]

btw does enduring bloodstone stack?

[urban skiff]

it's unique equipped

unique-equipped: algari diamond means you can't mix it with other variations

[vagrant tangle]

my dumbass cant read

[final rose]

Guys - How do you collect sparks of war?

[fierce elm]

Isle of dorn

slam some world pvp

[urban skiff]

world quests, treasures, some rare mobs, player killing

[fierce elm]

there are groups up in the custom area of LFG

[urban skiff]

in the correct zone

[fierce elm]

find one there, join

takes like 10 minutes

[final rose]

ty

Weird i just did the PVP wq and nothing

[urban skiff]

in isle of dorn?

[white zodiac]

Elusive Blasphemite or Enduring Bloodstone guys?

move speed might be good no?

[vagrant tangle]

I took enduring but Idk

looks better to me

[final rose]

found a grp ty!

[white zodiac]

I just dont think the 5% is going to make a massive difference but then you can probably get a good chunk of movespeed if you chuck in a few diff gems

[urban skiff]

I'll take 5% DR over 5% movementspeed any day

and it's not even 5% Movespeed..

[pure hornet]

guyz hwo much you usually wait in solo shuffle?

[white zodiac]

its 2% ms PER gem tho

[fierce elm]

as long as it takes

[vagrant tangle]

based

[hot nymph]

Arms is around 8 mins for me

[urban skiff]

you mean one gem

[white zodiac]

"per unique algari gem color"

so you have a blue (vers) green, etc

so thats 2% per diff color

[urban skiff]

isn't it 3 gems?

[fierce elm]

As a warrior you are 100% taking the movespeed gem

you don't need the DR gem

when would you ever be the focus

[urban skiff]

no idea

how the heck is bigdam already topping on two toons

[fierce elm]

unemployment

[urban skiff]

i wish i was unemployed

[white zodiac]

nope, ruby, onyx, amber, sapphire and emerald

so 10% MS afaik

[urban skiff]

ok that's acftually pretty nice

also seems too good to be true

[white zodiac]

you'd lose some stats from scuff gems

but i mean... 10% is alot

[fierce elm]

especially this season

[white zodiac]

.... yea xD

[fierce elm]

when Warriors biggest issue is being kited to fucking nowhere lmao

you won't need the DR because you are never the focus honestly

[white zodiac]

kited? i just get stuck in place for 9 years

get to the target, it disapears like magic

[urban skiff]

this my experience too

and enh has more root breakers than war

[white zodiac]

personally I feel like charge should have a built in hamstring effect to save me a global -.-

[urban skiff]

R1 fury in shuffle is using spear + onslaught and skipping OF completely

also using AM

Ok be real here guys. Am I in bizarro world?

[fierce elm]

we are

Remember when we thought it would be a slow season

it aint

[urban skiff]

slow how?

[fierce elm]

no damage

long games

heavy damp

[urban skiff]

i literally never thought that

[fierce elm]

I did

because of BGs

I think our average game tody was like 2 minutes kek

our longest was 8 minutes vs Lontar playing dk/shadow/rsham

[urban skiff]

Because I called it about a million times that damage would be high and the winning specs will be the ones winning the arms race in defensives

also why I thought thane would end up stronger

tbh it might still

it's also why i think arms will pull ahead of fury in shuffle

[fierce elm]

If fury gets nerfed sure lmao

that shit is bonkers

[vagrant tangle]

preach

[urban skiff]

arms seems to sorta counter fury so with the rise of FotM fury, hardcore arms might have some easy stepping stones

(not like hard counter, but soft counter)

idk, I'm having a really hard time accepting how bad my season start has been in blitz

[fierce elm]

lmao

our 3s started good tbh

[urban skiff]

just straight up upsetting

[fierce elm]

we went 20-16

with facing only multiglads/r1s above 1200

[urban skiff]

what you play? UH fury?

[fierce elm]

Ret/Arms

[urban skiff]

oh nice

[fierce elm]

Karg refuses fury

I refuse to reroll

[urban skiff]

what's the light string i see rets using?

like a beam or a rope attached to someone

[fierce elm]

Uh Suns something

Sun avatar?

Whenever we get Crusade we pop out ropes attached to everyone

if you cross it you take damage as enemy, as friendly you get healed

and it also does damage to everyone its attached to

[hot nymph]

Guys what do u think of spiteful serenity against low uptime teams

[urban skiff]

ok so maybe I'm at fault for at least one of my losses today

[hot nymph]

This doesnt feel bat at all

[thick reef]

6k ea. for Q3 forged alloy, yeesh

[fierce elm]

thank god you don't need high quality mats

[thick reef]

just the bronze will do?

that for overall ilvl?

[verbal tangle]

Quality only matters for pve

[thick reef]

word

[verbal tangle]

PvP it will scale to correct ilvl (assuming gladiator's pennant)

[idle falcon]

should i use the fury pvp guide here or bahjeera guide

[thick reef]

yep

[fierce elm]

whichever you want

[idle falcon]

feels like i dont deal dmg with bahjeera build

[fierce elm]

then try another one

[prime solar]

Blitz mmr down by 100 pts per loss

[thick reef]

hey @verbal tangle

does it matter what rank the darkmoon sigil is

[verbal tangle]

Is that the embellishment?

[thick reef]

yes

[verbal tangle]

Then no, it's just craft difficulty

[thick reef]

ok

now to find a blacksmith with the recipe...lol

[fierce elm]

Place it into the crafting tihng

tip like 500-3k

ez pz

[violet fossil]

say ur broke asf I’m sorry and tip 500g

[fierce elm]

or that lmao

I tip like 3k usually

[violet fossil]

i usually get it if I say that

[wise parcel]

What are the purple circles on the ground against priests? that fear you

[fierce elm]

avoid them

thats about it

[thick reef]

got it

mmm

itsa nicea

[spice hornet]

Rummel u in here? Rummel wasn't happy about losing really bad iin shuff as arms

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

this is what i would tell everyone if i was a crafter

[fierce elm]

I mean I don't care enough

you do my work for me lmao

[wise parcel]

@fierce elm How do we beat evokers? I can't touch pres or dev

[fierce elm]

by using your anger at the game to hit harder

welcome to the most aids matchup in the game

[wise parcel]

My comp is disc priest-uDK-fWarrior

[violet fossil]

u don’t

[fierce elm]

by just slamming someone honestly

pres/deva are wack as warrior to play against

[violet fossil]

they’ll just run

well flap

[worthy fern]

@wise parcel do first couple goes on healer

[thick reef]

big scaly chicken-men

[worthy fern]

Hit dev when his walls are gone

Go back healer

[wise parcel]

When all the dev's walls are gone? sorry that's kinda confusing wording

or the healers walls are gone

[worthy fern]

@wise parcel dev has two walls

That make them immune to kicks

So alot of them will just use them insta to run around and spam damage, really deadly during that period, but they are good kill targets after that

[stiff dust]

hi any arm talent for rbg please ?

[violet fossil]

spec fury instead

[fierce elm]

@elfin surge lmao imagine losing to mag

[rare oak]

i went with 2x duskthread lining over weapon embellish. did i grief? referring to fury warrior

[violet fossil]

isn’t magnus like 100 time rank 1 or something

[wise parcel]

What about Disc priest/uDK/fWarrior VS PreVoker/uDK/fWarrior

like a mirror with dif healers

[fierce elm]

he is

I just like to shittalk mud

[wise parcel]

who is magnus

[violet fossil]

I’m just wondering cause idk who mid is

[fierce elm]

MUD is a r1 warrior

[thick reef]

im literally so hot for magnus and mud

mud especially

[violet fossil]

Oh that mid

Mud

[idle falcon]

best emb

for pvp?

[fierce elm]

the pins big man

[idle falcon]

ty

[spice hornet]

think I just saw @elfin surge get packed up by an e-girl

[tawny rose]

what is better arms or fury

[worthy fern]

@wise parcel I’m not sure prob whichever team just plays better

I’d put money on the prev team though

[cinder thorn]

If I already socketed something and I put it in catalyst I don't lose socket right

Or gem

[fierce elm]

no idea

but you can just wait until you get tier

to socket anyways

[drowsy star]

what wep enchant?

[spice hornet]

lmfao he got packed up so hard he made a forum post about it

[low cobalt]

they need to be BROUGHT DOWN

[static knoll]

arms feels good in arena tbqh

[low cobalt]

lmao

[static knoll]

also solo shuffle is just a bunch of melee blenders this shit is frEE!

[low cobalt]

fukin vulpera picker

"disgrace to all that is warrior" -a furry

😂

[hasty pulsar]

Used to be when something was imbalanced you would tell it like it is and call it for what it was.. now you go against truth.. sad state of affairs things have become

[fossil mortar]

Problem is what do you balance it around

Duels, 2v2, 3v3, soloshuffle?

All are different ballparks

I forgot the one, RBG

[copper fox]

3s

[stark gulch]

why are peeps asking for r5 crafts on pvp gear? am I missing something? all you need is heraldries

[worthy fern]

@static knoll feels like ass some games

But that’s nothing new on arms

[static knoll]

in the 4x melee games? I feel pretty good as arms tbqh

[real briar]

for the forged gladiator's heraldry how do we use that?

[balmy gust]

Aye I need 25 more sparks of war for that quest on the isle of dorn.. yesterday there was a bunch of people in the PvP area and I got 75.. today there is none where is a good place to go?

[wooden flint]

is there a rating requirement for the 9 herald quest?

[stark gulch]

I got it randomly after an epic BG and I have exactly 0 rating

[idle falcon]

same

[wooden flint]

okay ty

[stark gulch]

apparently you can get bloodstones from the boxes too

[balmy gust]

Aye I need 25 more sparks of war for that quest on the isle of dorn.. yesterday there was a bunch of people in the PvP area and I got 75.. today there is none where is a good place to go?

[serene valve]

Is there anyone else who has yet to finish queue for a solo shuffle?

I’ve hit 90 minutes, 55 minutes, and 45 minutes 3 separate times before logging off, haven’t had it pop once

[main apex]

What should we be using heradlrys for first

[tight kiln]

pin

[main apex]

I dont see any pinned messages here

[agile phoenix]

Hey wich embelish for the pvp neck for arm pls ?

[balmy gust]

Where can I get the rest of my sparks of war? Is there a new spot for world PvP?

[hasty pulsar]

Can go for crates

[balmy gust]

How often they drop?

[hasty pulsar]

Not exactly sure but feels like maybe every 15-30 minutes

[graceful sinew]

I think it’s if you want to also use it in open world/pve/delves whatever…then it matters but yeah in bg arena no diff

[narrow compass]

Def realizing Solo Q Rated PVP is "who has the most patience"

patience for waiting the Q to pop

patience for dealing with imbeciles

[distant hazel]

any alliance that can craft Rank 5 pvp gloves? will tip 20k

[digital pond]

if im starting out in pvp do i just buy the 613 ilv stuff

[plucky sapphire]

Just fly around digging up dirt while engaging players as you come across them

[real briar]

what crafted best to go for first?

or should we even craft?

[digital pond]

i think its always weapon first?

makes the most sense to me

[olive pine]

does anybody know where to find a pvp gear bis list?

[jaunty ruin]

so has everyone crafted the weapon or are there smart people that wait for the quest?

(wondering how big the embelishent for warriors is as well)

fury

[thick reef]

^

what a question tho

[gaunt shuttle]

is there any reason to pinned message says to buy cloak and not a ring/neck?

[thick reef]

cause magnus did the math so we dont have to

[forest terrace]

is turning helm into turn that worth it for 2pc? i feel like were gonna lose too much vers this early

[gusty zinc]

seems like everyone is going helm/legs. the 2piece just doesnt seem great though

for fury that is

[forest terrace]

yeah for fury sorry

[jaunty ruin]

bruh can someone answer me regarding the weapon 😭

[forest terrace]

i crafted weap

even though we are getting some in week 3, it feels needed before then

[gusty zinc]

are we even sure in week 3 we get 2 2h as fury or is it just one?

[jaunty ruin]

get two

[forest terrace]

the mace is hast vers so i feel we would keep crafted one anyways

[gusty zinc]

gearing seems super easy this xpac so people that are crafting are just getting a jump on things early

[thick reef]

Craft the wep

[urban skiff]

looks like I'm finally beating a glad player at something

[boreal veldt]

lmfaooo

[urban skiff]

I'm way past 8 losses

[boreal veldt]

i bout started streaming to see if i could go for a record loss streak

wanted it on record

accidentally won 1

[urban skiff]

aw that was a good idea

counter-jinx the curse

[boreal veldt]

[urban skiff]

maybe it's time i find a healer friend

[boreal veldt]

how much conq do we get each week? do we know?

[urban skiff]

1600 first week, +600 every week after i think

[boreal veldt]

oh thats dope, i've been sitting on 725 conq wondering how to save for chest next week

[urban skiff]

you know what? fuck it

I'm going to buy and craft a honor weapon and put big embellishments on them

[boreal veldt]

hell yeah

[urban skiff]

i hear there's one dealing like a million damage that nobody talks about

[real briar]

fastest way to get 2500 conquest

[jaunty ruin]

Whats the embellish for the wep guys?

[dusk zealot]

When I set up a crafting order, is it enough to just use the cheapest options since pvp ilvl is the same?

[gusty zinc]

yep, I belive so

[urban skiff]

do content that awards conquest. You aren't getting it this week anyways

daily wins award more

[real briar]

kk tyty

[edgy escarp]

I see lots of different takes on Ascension vs Symbiosis

cant decide

gonna craft now i think

help

[boreal veldt]

My whole street just lost power mid srbg lmfao

Rip mmr

[urban skiff]

bigdam pimped the fuck out

[lyric violet]

holy shit frost mage makes me wanna uninstall

[urban skiff]

wdym?

polymorph frost bomb polymorph glacial di-ldo

[leaden sail]

had a bad start aswell, first game 7vs8 etc, but by the end of day i was on 2,3k+ mmr had a 15:7 w/l rate

Do some have a guide for what gear we should buy/craft first? (arms)

[empty raptor]

should i use tier 3 optional regents like missives and embelishments when crafting pvp gear? or they just gonna scale like stats in pvp?

[distant hazel]

oh i fucked up and made 610 gloves lol

need to read gooder

[white arch]

If you only use them in PvP then use w/e. Talk to a crafter about what you need for max rank if you are going for that to use in PvE.

[pallid linden]

yo am i screwed on dis quest already got conq cap.. :/

[pallid linden]

legendary seanpai.

[digital pond]

whats the best embellishment for algari competitor greatsword

[urban skiff]

Yep, scuffed. But maybe they fix it to season earned before week 3

[lyric violet]

the vers one i think

and the one that doubles it

for your gloves?

[pure hornet]

Hy great one, didn’t see you on discord before

[fierce elm]

it is season earned

[urban skiff]

Quest say earn. If you cap conq and pick up quest you're behind. Unless the quest is scuffed on progress like it's scuffed on rewards but reddit overflows with people realizing they did it in the wrong order..

[fierce elm]

I have 1600/2500 progress despite getting the quest when I already had 300 conq or something earned

Oh wait

I just woke up ignore me

I was sure yall meant the heraldry quest LMAO

Get fucked neerds, it should be earned in season tho

[analog topaz]

Is there a talent build on wowhead for fury in pvp?

[radiant hamlet]

Boys

how's warrior in duels

and what does it get destroyed from?

doesnt matter what spec

with the exception of prot ofc

[slender wedge]

are sparks used for pvp crafts?

like wep

[urban skiff]

Bro just ask @last spindle if he has a video guide up yet

That's what everybody does

[analog topaz]

That doesn't help lol

and I dont want to annoy him

[fierce elm]

nope

lmao

Bajheera has a guide up

Magnus has his armory up that contains his talents

MUD has his build up

[analog topaz]

LOL

Slow down only know one of those

pve gamer

[fierce elm]

MUD build in pins, Bajheera guide on Youtube, Magnusz is live right now

so he will probably give you his talents

or flame you lmao

[slender wedge]

sorry im slightly confused about the pin, 9 heraldry quest?

[vagrant tangle]

how considerate, annoy him regardless

[fierce elm]

You get it from a random drop from rated PvP and Epic BGs

[slender wedge]

oh, and we need 10 of them to craft the wep?

[fierce elm]

yes

[slender wedge]

i see

thanks

[fierce elm]

so you get 9 then spend conquest for the last one

[vagrant tangle]

@afro excuse my ignorant ass, do we actually get these from doing pvp/rated pvp content or is there a weekly cap on how many we can get?

[slender wedge]

oh i thought we bought the 175 honor one?

or is that for the other crafts

[fierce elm]

Heraldrys?

[vagrant tangle]

yy

[fierce elm]

that one is for honor craft

not conquest craft

[vagrant tangle]

Ive gotten the 9 from the quest

[fierce elm]

its a convoluted system

[vagrant tangle]

I'm talking about extra ones

[fierce elm]

You get 9 from the quest, that's it

no more freebies

[vestal moat]

9 from quest and you need 10 weapon

[slender wedge]

but which quest is this

it just drops at the end of rated pvp?

[fierce elm]

this

[vagrant tangle]

then you can only buy them, the dont dop?

[fierce elm]

again

[slender wedge]

yeye

hahah soz

[fierce elm]

yes it drops at end of rated pvp

[vestal moat]

call of the gladiator you got it auto after a few rated games

[slender wedge]

and thanks ❤️

[vagrant tangle]

weird, I played 17 srbgs yday and not one of them dropped

[fierce elm]

you get 9 for free from the quest

I got it after like 4 arenas

but its entirely random

[vagrant tangle]

weird

[vestal moat]

I got it after 3 solo q rbg

[vagrant tangle]

alright cheers for the info

[slender wedge]

do we use honor to upgrade gear?

[fierce elm]

upgrading gear does nothing for PvP scaling

Honor is purely to buy mats/honor stuff

[wheat jay]

start of the season

and qs are so fucking long xD

jesus

[fierce elm]

you need valor/crests to upgrade your gear but it only upgrades in PvE

[fierce elm]

its 10 am big man

lmao

[wheat jay]

end of s4 i had faster q at 10am xD

[fierce elm]

its 10 am big man on a thursday

also most got 1600 yday and stopped

[wheat jay]

lmao fair

[fierce elm]

smh now the dream team is only rank 423 : (

[wheat jay]

xD

[fierce elm]

slacking

[wheat jay]

enjoying new meta?

[fierce elm]

its pretty fun ngl

definitely some overtuned stuff

but its pretty fun

it's fast paced, punishing, I like it

also blizz stealth nerfed crafting

Helm/Chest/Legs cost 4 heraldries yday, now its 5 per craft

[wheat jay]

xd

[slender wedge]

so all this overcapped honor can just go to alts?

[fierce elm]

not really

you should buy the bloodstones

and get sockets

from the recipe vendor

[slender wedge]

ah ye ofc

is there a list of recommended addons?

sorry for the barrage of questions

[fierce elm]

I don't think so, most people have their addons mentioned somewhere if they stream

Usually Gladius/sArena/gladiusex, BigDebuffs, some sort of nameplate addon is enough

[urban skiff]

Made yesterday 200k so imma just buy those sockets

[fierce elm]

yeah you can buy the bloodstones on AH

but they are mad expensive

Its 12.5k per socket iirc

honor

Also they are already moving tail swipe off drachtyr and onto evoker

now they just need to move glide

[wheat jay]

oh god

blitz would take FOREVER to get rating xD

[fierce elm]

grab a healer and duo

nerd

[wheat jay]

i meant solo

its like 20+min q

15min game

[fierce elm]

yeah grab a healer

and duo lmao

[wheat jay]

for 192 rating from 0 XD

[urban skiff]

It's the honor that hurts currently. I want to buy more gear also.

Gonna buy and craft honor weapons for early embellishments

[wheat jay]

I MEANT SOLO you moron can you read?

[fierce elm]

YES

GRAB A HEALER

AND DUO

[wheat jay]

CAN YOU READ

[fierce elm]

for faster queues nerd lmao

You do know you can duo that right

im just making sure

[wheat jay]

yes

i know

[fierce elm]

ez pz fix

pick up some rando ass healer get fast queue times

[wheat jay]

fucking hell you're an absolute idiot

[fierce elm]

don't be a nerd

lmao

Or you know, play the best gamemode

solo shuffle

[wheat jay]

oh i thought youd say skirmish

[fierce elm]

idk about crafting honor weapon

[wheat jay]

ngl even pet battles are more fun XD

[fierce elm]

If you think about it you are going to be like 20 days without a weapon

against people that have conq weapon

If you have conq weapon you suddenly have an enchant too

[urban skiff]

I'll be fine. Enh and prot aren't there to bring dam

[fierce elm]

along with embellish

oh yeah you are enhance

The enchants are so dummy thick in pvp

its crazy

[urban skiff]

I can enchant and embellish honor weaps no problem

[fierce elm]

expensive broski

you got too much gold

[urban skiff]

I'm up 500k in the last week

[fierce elm]

im down to my last 100k

[urban skiff]

Eu?

[fierce elm]

I DONT WANT HAND OUTS

I will struggle

until I buy a token

[urban skiff]

Gimme 50k then

[fierce elm]

hell no

[urban skiff]

It means struggle

Struggle means strength

[main apex]

Why does pinned message say 9 heraldry makes 2h weapon? It costs 10 for me

[fierce elm]

if you read the entire thing

it will answer you

[main apex]

I read it but im not understanding

[fierce elm]

There is a word you are missing here

[urban skiff]

Ask mage for arcane intelligence

[main apex]

Oh its saying 9 herald from quest and buy 1 herald?

[fierce elm]

yes

[main apex]

Bit confusing the way its written

[slender wedge]

random question, is there a way to switch UI's from what content im doing?

like reload into a simpler one for PVP

[fierce elm]

Not without creating specific profiles

You would have to ask #ui-addons-manager for that most likely

most tend to just run the same UI in all content

[slender wedge]

ye fair

[main apex]

Just a heads up if you recraft the 2h weapon it only cost 5 forged gladiator. So probably better to craft a green with cheap heralds and then recraft with 5

[urban skiff]

Depends on your ui

[slender wedge]

using a streamers ui pack atm so probably a shit show to get working in an easy way

maybe i gotta ditch it all and just go vanilla mode with some essential WA's

longing for the old SUI look if so 😦

[high kindle]

hey guys, sorry if this was mentioned but why people craft weapons so early? i thought we will get a free cp weapon on week 3

[vagrant tangle]

because the free ones have suboptimal stats for most specs

well, not most, some

[urban skiff]

Either they're planning very far ahead or not at all ahead.

Boring answer, but correct

You'll be ahead for two weeks, then behind for x weeks until enough spare conquest to craft weapons and then 2 weeks after that it stabilises.

[main apex]

Anyone a blacksmith who can recraft for me 😄

[charred estuary]

i can maybe

2 handswords are my best

[main apex]

What quality can you do?

[charred estuary]

should be able to rank 5

but that might need a day for me to regenerate connenration

im still learning

newly back to wow

[main apex]

Ok want to ad me in game

[charred estuary]

sure

im Profile - Dath Remar

[fierce elm]

We want a weapon embellishment

too

[slender wedge]

best race for alliance?

may switch it over 😛

[fierce elm]

So you want a weapon embellishment and you get it early

[charred estuary]

alliance 😄

[fierce elm]

Human/Dwarf/Nelf for stealth specs

Gnome

[main apex]

gnome imo for pvp

[fierce elm]

Gnome > Human > Dwarf for warriors

[main apex]

Having escape is crucial

[fierce elm]

I forgot gnome existed

[main apex]

Oh wise one forgets?

i PM you @charred estuary

[slender wedge]

no real downside playing gnome in pve either iguess?

like im not gonna push any giga stuff

[ionic pine]

Hey guys! Are you using Enduring or Determined Bloodstone (as Fury) ?

[slender wedge]

you able to pump a rank5 for me aswell?

was there a list for all gems, enchants etc?

[high kindle]

i wonder of those embellishments will get nerfed, because they make pvp weapons obsolete kinda

[main apex]

Can oceanic craft for na?

Trying to have @charred estuary craft 2h for me but keeps saying he doesnt have the profession when he clearly has 2h maxed

[fierce elm]

probsbly not

at most its 2% extra stat

[analog topaz]

Holy fuck I feel so sweaty rn

[high kindle]

if not weapon what else ppl craft?

[empty raptor]

poor mw

did his best still 0

[analog topaz]

Literally it was kill spriest or kill the dk in my head cause dh has too much self healing

[fierce elm]

No idea, most wattiors have opted for two embellishments

[urban skiff]

Can get that from honor craft. Maybe it's poor people

[fierce elm]

Yeah but then miss out on the sweet juicy stats

of a 639 weapon

for 3 weeks

If you want to climb rating rn I would craft conq weapon all day

if you dont mind waiting/struggling then fuck it

[urban skiff]

When we had vaults still i waited a few weeks before pushing. Get the sweats up and put the others below

[slender wedge]

its the algari competitor sword we're crafting right? just so i dont make any giga mistakes 🙂

[urban skiff]

I think i'm still trying to do that, by being patient with weapon. On fury wait 3 weekd and get a 3600 conq advantage. That sounds good to me.

Only risky if fury gets nerfed to be unplayable before weapons

[vestal moat]

ye

[main apex]

Any bs on NA to recraft?

[slender wedge]

crafting wep with mastery/vers right?

[fierce elm]

tradechat baby

[fierce elm]

yes, do not fuck it up thi

tho

[slender wedge]

scared af

[fierce elm]

just send a screenshot

and we can check

[slender wedge]

okok will do

[fierce elm]

assuming you are making the 639 version

[slender wedge]

i am

just got the quest

also what gems for the belt/wrist socket?

[fierce elm]

check magnusz armory basically

[slender wedge]

ah ok, thanks

[fierce elm]

He pretty much has everything you want

[slender wedge]

eu?

[fierce elm]

NA

Magnusz - Zul’jin i believe

[slender wedge]

ye found him, ty

[main apex]

Ive been asking in trade for 45 mins lol

[fierce elm]

kek

[lavish quest]

Maybe don't be asking in trade at 2-5 am for NA?

Try the not graveyard shift

[fierce elm]

Just have nolife friends

[main apex]

Everyone so friendly i lov eit

[lavish quest]

Real friends will tell you straight

You're welcome

I'm fairly certain the person crafting for you has to be on your server, or well your grouping of servers, so asking in a discord already going to be less effective off the rip.

[fierce elm]

is that how it works

[fierce elm]

We are pretty blunt here

Which usually works best

Gives a lil bit of outlet when PvP absolutely blows

[lavish quest]

We gather here to complain about mages and say warrior is F tier. Then troll some of the regulars and life moves on

[fierce elm]

lmao

Gotta keep it real for any beginners, nobody does well being coddled

[slender wedge]

do i need r1 mats for the crafts?

or go all out so i can get some use for it in pve also

[fierce elm]

nope

All it does is make it easier for people to craft it

same with embellishment rank

[slender wedge]

but when i choose it as r5 in the crafting thingy, it turns out as 610 for pve

or that doesnt matter with the rank mats

[fierce elm]

That doesnt matter with mats

set it as r5 on the crafting and it doesnt matter

If you want to use it in PvE, worst case scenario you can always recraft it

and not waste any mats

[fierce elm]

Yep

What missive/embellish is that

[slender lily]

whats the socket cap for head?

[slender wedge]

looks correct? 😛

aswell as this

[fierce elm]

yeeep

[slender wedge]

thanks mate

[frail badge]

so with solo bg now a thing, you think more people are playing solo arena or solo bg

[lime oyster]

Thanks

[vestal moat]

Are you forced to put R3 mats if you dont care about the ilvl in pve ?

or it will still proc 626 pvp with embelish ?

[lavish quest]

No

For pvp, just use the cheapest mats

It still scales to the ilvl the heraldry dictates

[vestal moat]

nice ty

[frail badge]

brutal finish or culling cyclone iyo is better

[idle falcon]

fucking

disc

is

op

[elfin surge]

pres and disc are the only 2 healers

[fierce elm]

Whatchu end at yday mud

[frail badge]

solo arena or solo bg faster to get 1800 as fury warrior iyo

please

[fierce elm]

whichever

[elfin surge]

didnt q 3s yesterday

[elfin surge]

prob shuffle but both fine

[frail badge]

thanks yall

[fierce elm]

yeah I saw you did 2s, I was asking in general big man

2s is looking giga-aids tho ngl

[elfin surge]

was just qn with lfg randos but 1880

and ya 2s are aids

every team is pres or disc

[fierce elm]

Pres+DPS lmao

[elfin surge]

and the enemy healer trains my healer

all game

[fierce elm]

Faced double dragon yet : )

It was the same in 3s basically

any 'good' team was running pres+S-tier dps

[elfin surge]

healer balance is pretty bad rn

[fierce elm]

Pres is just doing a fuckton of healing and damage and CC

its aids

[tepid otter]

So Bëowulf is sitting at 2328 in 3s, 150 points ahead of #2, with no crafted gear, no enchants, embellishments, or gems?

What a king.

[fierce elm]

that sounds sus

unless leaderboard hasnt been updated

[tepid otter]

Im just going off Murlok.io for fury

Could be an issue on their end

[fierce elm]

ladder probs hasn't updated yet

[frail badge]

is brutal finish better or the culling talent

[elfin surge]

nobody is 2300 in 3s yet i dont think

whatever ur looking at is way off

[fierce elm]

highest is like 2.2 on NA

[pliant wing]

I put the Radiance embellishment on my weapon by accident, anyone know if theres a way to change the embellishment without having to recraft the item?

[tepid otter]

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/3v3

[fierce elm]

have to recraft for embellishments

[tepid otter]

Must be a bug on their end

[elfin surge]

use this https://check-pvp.fr/#

https://check-pvp.fr/ranking

[frail badge]

is brutal finish better or the culling talent

[fierce elm]

If only there was a way to see builds in the pins

or you can just try it out in game

[frail badge]

this is my build for solo bg

[vagrant tangle]

That is unfortunate

[pliant wing]

fuck

[pliant wing]

I also learned the hard way that you don't have to buy the 3 star reagants to craft pvp gear 😦

[frail badge]

is it realistic to get 1800 soon if i am 1644 in solo bg or no since season is new and you dont gain rating as fast like as at end of season

[vagrant tangle]

As soon as I hit 1600 the wins grant me ~10-15 rating

So it’s going to be a slow climb

Dunno if it will get better as season goes on

Planning to push early if I can

Since I pretty much have insta queues

[frail badge]

i was planning on getting the 1800 transmog for my warrior first then hunter and maybe another but at this rate i dont know if ill go past warrior

feels like a waste of time sometimes with the long queues compared to other games were its instant to get into gaames

[vagrant tangle]

Well it’s already infinitely faster and chiller than solo shuffle

So can’t complain

[vagrant tangle]

I’m getting max 10 minute queues for srbgs

Typically 2-5 min

[vestal moat]

at 8pm I had 20min queue for solo rbg and at 10pm I had 3 min each times

[frail badge]

im in queue for 15 min so far but yeah ussualy its about around 5 to 10

[fierce elm]

thats just 2s and 3s in general

generally you dont get more than 15 unless your mmr is so high

[tall geode]

can you enchant a wep with embellishment

[fierce elm]

no

[tall geode]

just so i am 100000% sure i dont screw somth up

[fierce elm]

you have to craft

[tall geode]

cool ty

[frail badge]

do yall use a build simialr to this for solo bg or do not take the whirlwind talents

[fierce elm]

the pins have the most popular build

[elfin surge]

i am now a 100% frenzy enrage enjoyer

[frail badge]

is that still relevant for bg tho iyo?

[fierce elm]

yes

its pretty much the same

[frail badge]

ok thanks

[vagrant tangle]

Hot take

Very hot take

[elfin surge]

frost mage cope

[echo yoke]

The pints talent tree is outdated for fury at least

[fierce elm]

@elfin surge fix nerd

[elfin surge]

fix what noob

[fierce elm]

he is talking shita bout your talents

[elfin surge]

the pints

[fierce elm]

oh sorry your beer

[elfin surge]

[echo yoke]

I4M JUST SAYING THE IMPORT STRING IS WRONG SRY SRY

[fierce elm]

lmao

[onyx marlin]

radiant or depths?

[fierce elm]

both are good

[onyx marlin]

radiant gives 2k stats tho

[urban skiff]

Is the mine still ridiculous?

[fierce elm]

I mean you pretty much answered yourself there

[urban skiff]

Haven't seen any hotfix

[onyx marlin]

xD

i just want to know if the depth one does enough dps to be worth it

[fierce elm]

CHRIST

[fickle forge]

Sick solo shuffle experience bro

[wheat jay]

having fun?

[fierce elm]

I logged off lmao

[wheat jay]

XD

nice

[rancid granite]

thats 21mins and 53seconds of some nice mobility work, maybe some resistance band work, or misc yoga

[fierce elm]

yeah no fuck that

[wheat jay]

afro gonna do some yoga

stretch

get ready to get fucked in arena

[rancid granite]

put on tv at the same time and its not so bad 🥹

[wheat jay]

[rancid granite]

better to get fucked in arena while loose and zen

[fierce elm]

wtf

I never LOSE

I wanna do 3s but my team isn't committed to the GRIND

[fickle forge]

You don't have a team?

You have me

Lmao

And I don't have a team either

[chilly pivot]

Any discord to find arena partners?

[fallen harness]

what is the best item to use your 1600 mark on? legs or chest?

[chilly pivot]

Legs

[fallen harness]

ty!

[fierce elm]

SLACKING

[wheat jay]

you dont lmao

you have a guidlk tho

how did your raid go

[fierce elm]

We could be having elite set

kiss a lil bit

instead I am a 1600-andy

Boutta start begging in streamers chat for a warrior

[wheat jay]

kargish is a pve player now

he doesnt do casual content

he raids now

[fierce elm]

he is doing casual raids wdym

[sweet solstice]

am i crazy

or does this season start feel insanely imbalanced on all fronts

[fierce elm]

its like every other season start

[sweet solstice]

disc and that freakin dragon healer just shit on everything else

[wheat jay]

casual pvp

proper raids

[fierce elm]

I mean disc and pres are literally the best healers

and arent even part of the most absurd things

[wheat jay]

good thing our friend plays both

lmao

[sweet solstice]

and feral is just disgusting

more then usual

[fierce elm]

Feral the hell

Not affli/sub/fury/shadow/deva/unholy

but feral

[sweet solstice]

a feral almost 100 to 0 me

and they constantly outdps me to the end of the universe

[fierce elm]

Yeah, I wouldn't say feral is part of the really unbalanced squad rn

compared to a lot of other specs

[sweet solstice]

idk i havent seen a class outdps me so hard

and 100 to 0 me in opener rake

[fierce elm]

I mean affli is currently doing 900k dps while being trained

Deva is doing some absurd burst, shadow is unkillable, Fury is doing some absurd burst too

[low ridge]

Any other arms having progress in solos?

[fierce elm]

Unholy is spooky as fuck

[sweet solstice]

oh actually ur right

a deva also almost 1 shoted me at 1 point

[fierce elm]

But yeah this is pretty common when it comes to season starts

[sweet solstice]

idk where that absurd fury burst is

id call it decent at best

[fierce elm]

decent

[sweet solstice]

i dont 1 shot people

[fierce elm]

I too love getting 100-20% through my walls

You shouldnt also be completely one shot

[sweet solstice]

have only done 2's so far maybe il see this fury shine in 3's

[fierce elm]

Yeah you shouldnt be eating shit 100-0 when you have things to use honestly

and you should have things to use until the game hits like 3-4 minutes

[sweet solstice]

i mean season just started

and like i cant tell when a deva is going to 1 shot me

i have no clue what they do

[fierce elm]

Its pretty much the same as last season

most specs, if not all specs have the same burst set up as last season

[static knoll]

1700 so far

Lots of 3-3 😵‍💫

[fierce elm]

affli is doing some stupid shit though

Affli not having to cast shadowbolt whatsoever is a bane on pvp

along with it pretty much cleaving constantly

[low ridge]

yeah im at 1616 rn lots of either 5-1 or 1-5

Ive been noticing a shit ton of just dumb rogues and furys

[static knoll]

I dont feel like I have bad matchups tbh

[low ridge]

Also brand new prezies

[static knoll]

Hence the 3-3

Melee blenders just feel like a coin flip, and half the lobbies are 4 melee

[low ridge]

Mmhmm

Ive noticed in Melee lobbies I kinda have to pilot where people move n shit with cc

One of the off dps is always going to over extend

[onyx marlin]

?

[low ridge]

WAT

That better be outside pvp

[onyx marlin]

it was inside a bg