pvp

[fierce elm]

I don't see the huge movement abilities my guy

[frank pine]

to be fair - even DK has wildly better movement than pally these days

coming from someone who is playing both rn

[fierce elm]

I mean yeah

DK doesn't need the movement either lmao

[hearty vault]

@fierce elm u are main paladin... who only need a few more dmg to be Tier S monster

[frank pine]

It doesn't. But that horse is fucking bonkers

[fierce elm]

I mean, I haven't said we won't be S tier if we get damage buffs lmao

[hearty vault]

DK, who got more defensives too

[worthy fern]

@hearty vault You have impending and second wind rn

[fierce elm]

Also the fact that we are 2 months out of this patch

[worthy fern]

Plus a second second wind in colloids

[fierce elm]

and they are still doing stuff on PTR

[worthy fern]

Colossus

Leap away and heal

[frank pine]

If only Colossus weren't a dead spec

[worthy fern]

I blinded a fury war to reset the other night and he fucking healed to full

[hearty vault]

@worthy fern dampening mate. Useless in BG when u are focused be more than 2 o 3 players

[fierce elm]

But they are never going to balance Battlegrounds

or BGB

Its quite literally an impossible game mode to balance

[worthy fern]

@hearty vault Bgs are shit and everyone’s healing is affected by dampening

[hearty vault]

exactly, it's cause I said "dampening", it's 3v3

[fierce elm]

thats not true

[worthy fern]

Like damp only hits wars

[fierce elm]

Lay on hands is not affected now : )

[worthy fern]

Well most things

[frank pine]

Not sure that's true yet

[worthy fern]

Point is war has never in the history of wow had more than it has rn

[hearty vault]

"blizzard this year about pvp: we wanna work in new RBG system (solo que)

"

[worthy fern]

If arms dmg is tuned well it’s going to be disgusting

[fierce elm]

I hope so or it's another case of being bamboozled by blizzard tooltips

[worthy fern]

They need to make arms hit hard and slow again instead of being a bleed class

[frank pine]

It's still okay - it'll get past MS effeects

[hearty vault]

yes, and paladin never in the history has movility and range attacks. DKs has never movility. And all rogue specs has not same defensvies that a subblety, etc etc etc. All classes are getting new kits less warrior, u cant say "warrior always...".

[fierce elm]

Technically Paladin has always had range attacks

[hearty vault]

1 sentence

0 movility

[worthy fern]

Idk what your point is

War has everything but an immunity

and stealth

[frank pine]

Also, other folks have pointed to one of evoker changes and argued that LoH will work the same way

[hearty vault]

@worthy fern sorry for my english. I mean, u cant see "warrior always has been like that" because all classes are getting new things and rols

[frank pine]

Hard to say without testing to be sure though

[worthy fern]

@hearty vault Right and I’m saying warrior has a lot of new stuff

Just not brand new

[fierce elm]

I will cope

[hearty vault]

@worthy fern what new? it's the same class since cataclysm XD

2 charges, 1 jump, stuns and fear.

[lucid walrus]

we're not missing anything

[worthy fern]

Ok historically you could never take double time and bounding same time

Now you can

You could never use impending without killing something

Second wind hasn’t been good since mop

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[fierce elm]

"Oh no my spec is so solid that it hasn't required a huge overhaul since cataclysm"

[frank pine]

that hasn't worked that way in a long time

[worthy fern]

@frank pine long time is like one and a half xpacs?

[hearty vault]

impending ? since wod

XD

[worthy fern]

Or is it that you could never take it before as a talent

[frank pine]

since WoD - patch 6.0.2

[fierce elm]

You never took it iirc

[worthy fern]

Because it was on same rows as like bolt and shit idk

[fierce elm]

but I can be wrong

[worthy fern]

My only complaint about the design of warrior is its reliance on bleeds and the play style isn’t that flashy

But outside of that it just needs dmg

Arms anyway

[hearty vault]

we are talking about kits, dps is the main rule and it changes all days. But without op dmg warrior is useless. In M+ where kits are too important no one inv warrior

sorry for talk about pve m+ but it's the same in pvp rbg for example

[rancid granite]

you don't have to play warrior btw

[hearty vault]

u have DH or rogue with better kits and reduce healing a

[rancid granite]

or the game at all

[idle falcon]

so fury got nerfed right

same build or

[hearty vault]

@rancid granite ... ... ... Mate, if we cant talk shits about our main class and let blizzard do what he want ... well...

[rancid granite]

you can it's just annoying doom posting

if you got that much pent up inside you maybe take a break

[rancid granite]

more of a fix than a nerf just pretend it didn't happen and you'll be fine 😛

[hearty vault]

yes... u are right. But because I see what happens last expansions with warrior...

[fierce elm]

Last expansion?

[wheat jay]

and what was happening with warrior last expansions?

[fierce elm]

How many seasons last expansion was a warrior spec not A-tier at minimum

[wheat jay]

shadowlands it was OMEGA S TIER for three seasons

and S tier for one

[rancid granite]

dooming cause of the past and the future which hasn't happened yet is s+ tier dooming

[lavish quest]

War was forever F tier

Change my mind

[hearty vault]

ok, lets see what happen when we lose our dmg. Who will inv us... well Solo que

[fierce elm]

lmao

Rets and DKs

Ferals in some cases

Elemental

Mages sometimes

[wheat jay]

rets, dks, mages, ferals, elementals

[fierce elm]

Enhancement

[wheat jay]

spreists even

[hearty vault]

all this classes got new kits and defensives: warrior % dmg with X skill and passive new effect X dmg aoe

new talents!

[wheat jay]

like what?

who got new kits

[fierce elm]

Paladin

did

Or rather

[wheat jay]

hunter got one more cc i guess

[fierce elm]

they took out all the useless shit

[hearty vault]

DK magic inmunity every 30 seconds + more physical reduce dmg

[wheat jay]

warrior's kit is still built to work with every single spec in the game

warr makes comps work

[wheat jay]

looks like a good class to play with warr

[fierce elm]

Warrior is like high quality sheets

they won't make or break your sleep

but they sure as fuck make it nicer

[wheat jay]

you can pair every single class in the game with warrior

[hearty vault]

play with a rogue

[fierce elm]

It was a comp once

It was Warr/Outlaw if I am not bugging

[boreal veldt]

i enjoy working with a good rogue, means i don't gotta use stuns

[wheat jay]

warr outlaw was a decent comp in shadowlands iirc

[boreal veldt]

just zugzug face

[hearty vault]

Afro, u are always talking about the moment of the pasts

[worthy fern]

War rogue is like prob the one comp that doesn’t work well

But it has been viable before

[fierce elm]

You mentioned the one spec warrior doesn't go with now lmao

[boreal veldt]

[lucid walrus]

best mortal strike in the game? check
mobility? check
survivability? check
both dps specs good? yup
comp variety? second to none

if it ain't broke

[fierce elm]

I was about to say its not the best mortal strike in the game

[hearty vault]

All CCs suffered? check
Useless out of teamfigth in rbg? check

[fierce elm]

then I realized the best is Fury lmao

[lucid walrus]

what else would you be doing in RBG as warrior?

[fierce elm]

So warriors one role in RBGs they aren't good at?

[lucid walrus]

genuinely lol

[fierce elm]

lmao

"Bro warrior sucks at defending bases" yeah but they are incredible at dishing out high value pressure in cleave moments, can MS down a priority target easily

[wheat jay]

50% ms in rbg

on a swap

[hearty vault]

that's. "your role is as warrior" but as @fierce elm (paladin main) "your role is... ok wait u can play all roles"

[wheat jay]

if they have healers that need to ramp up or cant insta heal, that dude is dead

[fierce elm]

I definitely should do the same thing

I absolutely should not be fighting 1v1s as Paladin

or I am inting

I shouldn't defend bases either as ret

My role is the same as warrior here

[wheat jay]

base defense is rogue or tank

[lucid walrus]

you lose teamfight if your ret dies in a melee comp

[elfin surge]

[hearty vault]

and paladin can too, did u see new talents 11.0.5?

[wheat jay]

sup nerd

[fierce elm]

Paladin shouldnt do anything but teamfight

[wheat jay]

you working on that gym collab with baj?

[lucid walrus]

[elfin surge]

[rancid granite]

this is like a fussy little kid on their older siblings birthday. lol

[elfin surge]

wtf is going on

[rancid granite]

"they get presents what about me"

[elfin surge]

@fierce elm go back to paladin cord

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm ye, shoo shoo

away with you

[fierce elm]

go back to pre-school

[elfin surge]

let me know when ur back to maining warrior

[fierce elm]

NEVER

[wheat jay]

I am

[fierce elm]

S-tier abusers

[wheat jay]

[elfin surge]

ret paladin

[fierce elm]

I just need a 4% damage buff and I am S-tier i promise

[elfin surge]

about as cringe as rerolling mage

[worthy fern]

Unless ret dmg is busted it’s not anywhere near as useful as war in bgs

[fierce elm]

thats mean : (

[wheat jay]

eyo that's going too far man

at least he can wear plate and use a sword

[hearty vault]

@worthy fern they got new aoe skills instants and range

[fierce elm]

Actually we might bring a ton of value in large groups now

[worthy fern]

Ok you have 10 people, need a good aoe Ms

Prob have room for 2 plate classes

Bring dk and war

And a hpala of paladin utility is nuts

Or wait it’s 8 in the new rated solo right

[hearty vault]

war in bg/rbg. Keep near of healer, dont move.

[hearty vault]

where u will neeed kits because its not all about teamfight cause less players playing)

but ok, "warrior has been always op moments and warrior always has this role, he dont need more things shut up"

[rancid granite]

I'll have my mom call blizzard and tell them your concerns

[wheat jay]

what the fuck are you on about, warrior's role is picking targets, calling it out, doing damage to it and applying sharpen

thats your role

you're not capping bases, you're not protecting bases, there's no 1v1 in rbg unless someone ignores base when its being assaulted

your role is damage

and picking targets

[hearty vault]

I have never gone with the intention of discrediting, even more so when we are talking in a chat to share opinions. What else is it for?

[violet fossil]

Being gay

[wheat jay]

warrior kit is cc, its sharpen, its banner, its rally, done

[lavish quest]

Buff woyer

[wheat jay]

survi got buffed

butchery will do 1000%ap

[lavish quest]

Sv op

[wheat jay]

like 250% as initial hit, 720% as bleed

and its aoe

[hearty vault]

banner? oO. calling focus in 3v3 or solo que RBG with people who wont alwayd follow your focus because u are a warrior? where teamfigths will be played with less players? 8v8

[wheat jay]

they should follow your focus

[hearty vault]

... ...

[wheat jay]

if they won't, sadge

go next

[hearty vault]

yes, delete war

[wheat jay]

please do

[hearty vault]

XD

[wheat jay]

go roll sth like rogue and have a big impactful role

namely sitting on a flag

in stealth

[kind sentinel]

i remember when base sitting was a hunters job

[wheat jay]

it still can be

[hearty vault]

or play druid balance or lock or paladin or mage or ...

[wheat jay]

and do same shit as warrior, sure

remember to follow warrior's focus

to get easier kills

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay ... did u play rbg last 4 years?

[wheat jay]

mostly in shadowlands, some in df

[fierce elm]

RBGs has never been a balance gamemode

[wheat jay]

ye that too, meta there is atrocious

you just stack whatever has highest aoe dmg

oh look affli is top dps, STACK FOUR OF THEM

OR FIVE

[kind sentinel]

or the accursed

4x healer meta

hrrrrrgk

[hearty vault]

Blizzard TWW PVP: "we will check about new RBG solo que system"

[wheat jay]

ye dont expect it to be balanced at all

[hearty vault]

not for warrior for sure

[wheat jay]

team with more broken classes will always win on dmg unless they suck

[violet fossil]

til they start balancing around blitz

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[fierce elm]

Until they start balancing around it

[urban skiff]

finally

[fierce elm]

finally Branns dick isnt so big

[urban skiff]

that was quick

You're a real dickspotter

[wheat jay]

tickled your throat?

[fierce elm]

I have a third eye for dicks

[violet fossil]

You be fine

[urban skiff]

Funny how dick is fine but fist.1ng is censored

[urban skiff]

strange, i have a third dick for eyes

[hearty vault]

sure, just wait changes for Blizzard... maybe... 2 years?

[wheat jay]

warr is fine tho, just go in, do damage

like 90% of classes

[hearty vault]

yes, like hunter's pet. charge and dmg

[rancid granite]

OK warrior sucks I agree with you pj does that satisfy you

[zinc tartan]

does fury have infinite healing or some?

[violet fossil]

yes

[rancid granite]

you found someone to agree with you

now no more need to doom

[wheat jay]

lmao, unironically I do have a pet warrior

[violet fossil]

arms is finally mid

[hearty vault]

@rancid granite no, its not about win or not, I am talking about warrior class new things

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge

[urban skiff]

fury doesn't even have basic healing, bro

[urban skiff]

we should have like a day every week where every answer can only be in the affirmative

[hearty vault]

@rancid granite mate, wiothut be disrespectful, I am only talking my opion about this class. I am not trying to win a "discussion"

[urban skiff]

No matter how ridiculous. The answer is always yes

[zinc tartan]

i spam 100 evis on the guy and he just wont die

[fierce elm]

MORE DOOM

[verbal tangle]

Is woyer shit: yes

[urban skiff]

maybe try 101

[urban skiff]

play more prot

[verbal tangle]

opion

[hearty vault]

opinion* sorry :]

[verbal tangle]

@fallen estuary we got another one

[rancid granite]

seems like you just want people to agree and doom with you

need dat internet echo chamber

[urban skiff]

doomers can go to r/worldofpvp please. This is a place for happy thoughts 🙂

[violet fossil]

everyone is in agreement that fury is op and arms is mid rn tho

idk how fury is gonna be after the nerfs tho

Still strong I think

[fierce elm]

Its still strong

as fuark

[violet fossil]

figure

a

S

that seemed minimal

[hearty vault]

no, I wait that u say: "you are not right becase u can use this skill/talent to do that against X things X moment". And not "in the past... warrior role is always..."

[rancid granite]

he's hell bent on thinking about future nerfs already.. source: it'll happen trust me guys

THE WORLD WILL END

[fierce elm]

You can kill them to counter their utility

checkmate

[urban skiff]

warr is in a really good spot right now and even if they bury fury completely warrior still has arms and prot to fall back on

This is a really really good position for a class

[fierce elm]

no its bad because they can get damage nerfed

and then they are literally useless and you might aswell delete the class

because they bring NOTHING

[wheat jay]

You bring your big muscles to the table

[verbal tangle]

Yeah that's not actually utility

Woyer has issues with "if not damage then why"

[urban skiff]

literally what

[verbal tangle]

Other classes can be brought in for content simply off of utility

Woyer doesn't really have that?

[wheat jay]

How is it not

[hearty vault]

you are right

[urban skiff]

raised my DL max last two gym sessions

still not broken 200 but at least I'm not shitting out my spine anymore

[wheat jay]

Nice, I was doing more kickboxing recently, got a new bag as well

[verbal tangle]

What are you going to do, throw the others guy's computer out the window while playing?

[wheat jay]

Kill them all

That's what rbg is

[urban skiff]

RBG is the most toxic cesspit

[hearty vault]

zug zug npc / hunter's pet with stuns

[wheat jay]

You go in, you swap to someone without heals on them, you sharpen, you burst them down

[urban skiff]

Ain't a normal people playing in RBGs

[wheat jay]

It might actually work very well with demolish

[urban skiff]

their best people are like gollum

[wheat jay]

Go in, stun, demolish, sharpen

Someone is half hp or lower with sharpen

[hearty vault]

demolish: jump to do dmg

[urban skiff]

@verbal tangle OH that reminds me. You know how you can use mobility abilities during demolish?

[verbal tangle]

Glide during Demolish

[wheat jay]

I don't know what could make you happy about warrior, you got your utility buttons, it's not an immunity for your group, or freedom, but it's there, you got your role, being shot caller, I dunno what else you'd want

[urban skiff]

I'm doing a countdown until rextroy does a demolish 1-shot using dragon charge mid swing

[verbal tangle]

[violet fossil]

pretty much a target caller yeah

[urban skiff]

for extra instant dmg

[wheat jay]

You sound like only being the single best #1 class for rbg with utility so good you'd be taken into groups even without gear or weapon could make you happy

Or at least stop the doom

You can't have one spec do everything

[hearty vault]

warrior 0 changes in years. stop doom

[wheat jay]

Warrior has issues, but so have othrr specs

[wheat jay]

If its not broken, don't fix it

[violet fossil]

I’d agree warrior has been the most boring though

although it has more stuff than it did before

[wheat jay]

Warrior is one of the better designed specs in terms of pvp toolkit, tho it may be a bit boring cuz you're not chucking meteors at people or winning games with a single button

[hearty vault]

broken u mean dps unbalanced?

[cinder cipher]

yo. question: I am mainly a prot pve player but I wanna get the rep rewards from the pvp quest. which spec is better at pvp atm? arms or fury?

[wheat jay]

Broken, I mean dysfunctional, it's a figure of speech

[wheat jay]

Fury

More dmg

[violet fossil]

Fury

[cinder cipher]

ty

[verbal tangle]

You can play Prot fine in pvp

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay mate, we are called the zug zug class. what are u talking about "most utility class"?

[violet fossil]

¿

[urban skiff]

did we forget about battlefield commander? Massive change

Group root break is amazing in RBGs

[wheat jay]

I never said most, don't twist my words lol

[hearty vault]

@urban skiff u are right!

[urban skiff]

or how it makes troar increase your entire group's damage by 5%, that's kinda big too

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay yes sorry u are right. one of the most. sorry

[wheat jay]

I don't think I said one of the most either

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay and I am not talking ironically. -_-

[wheat jay]

I said its there

[wheat jay]

^

[hearty vault]

it's useless spells against other one that other classes can use

do u need that I talk about DHs?

[violet fossil]

what useless spells

Dh are shit rn lol

[jovial gazelle]

guys why avatar doesnt work with reckles in macro ?

at all

[violet fossil]

And I absolutely hate dh

[jovial gazelle]

#showtooltip Recklessness
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/castsequence reset=45 Thunderous Roar, Odyn's Fury

this is what i got but it stoped working at all

Avatar is not casting dunno why

even if i made only macro for it

[violet fossil]

Maybe just try remaking it

[wheat jay]

Oh sure, please do cuz I played it too xD

[prime solar]

I've had macros with just a simple /cast turn grey and not work

They got fixed on reload but happened again and I never figured out why

[urban skiff]

swap from /cast to /use

literally no reason to use /cast except if doing a castsequence

always /reload before logging out

if making big changes like that

[violet fossil]

that’s like the dcd one damn

you ever move stuff around, dc and everything was back to normal lol

[jovial gazelle]

did use same 😦

reload did not fix it

atm im kinda lost

well then lets make a ticket i guess

[hearty vault]

no gcd, should work, no?

[urban skiff]

macros get saved when you /reload. Also changes made inside rated pvp don't stick when you go out. That also goes for any change to macros, even if you /reload

[wheat jay]

So, we're not talking about dh?

[hearty vault]

cause of me? ok, what do u prefer RC or darkness?

[plucky sapphire]

I can't enter any instanced content without my bars changing unless I reload first

[hearty vault]

more stuns or prision?

[wheat jay]

That depends on a comp, prison breaks to any dmg from anyone unless you take a pvp talent

Fear duration of warr is much longer

Darkness is better than rc, but you need to stand in it

And if there's a monk, you're not

[hearty vault]

tell that to players who call us zug zug class

[wheat jay]

Just sharpen blade and slaughterhouse put us above dh

No banner, no duel, no disarm, dh is just a dmg bot

The only thing it has in bg situation is darkness

[hearty vault]

inmunity defensives, magic dmg that ignore bops and dodges defensives

[wheat jay]

Dodges defensives?

Like parry?

[hearty vault]

everyone ignore parries XD

less other warriors or monk

[wheat jay]

Ye dh doesnt

[hearty vault]

what? dh cant ignore parry moments? oO

[wheat jay]

You parry their rotation, you parry hunt

You can reflect hunt dot as well iirc

You don't parry eye beam, throw glaive, sigils

[hearty vault]

what?waste spell reflect for dh dot?

[wheat jay]

You can, never said you should

[jovial gazelle]

#showtooltip Recklessness
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar

did this still avatar says no no not going to happen

on new macro

even jsut Avatar is not working wth

and yes i tryed logout and reload 😄

[hearty vault]

@lukas let me check

[wheat jay]

I will ask just in case

You do have it talented, right?

[hearty vault]

@lukas it's works for me

[jovial gazelle]

yep

[wheat jay]

Cuz macro is good

[jovial gazelle]

that bug happened after duno why i had error once today

i had prot skills but i was in fury

spec

but i had all skill layout like prot one and i was wtf for a sec

nice

exited from game fuly

now works

[hearty vault]

open book and shift+clic on skill. Maybe u are using avatar from other spec

[jovial gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-confetti-awesome-gif-11884906

[hearty vault]

ok good

[jovial gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bwonsamdi-life-and-death-wow-warcraft-loa-gif-14017295

i think he was trolling me

old shadowlands troll death god

but thanks for all the tips and help still

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay mate, I am not trying to make that a "kid who want to win discussion", but your arguments do not convince me

[zinc tartan]

this should be on right ?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[zinc tartan]

because it can break cc

no?

[wheat jay]

Ok

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay I mean, I see DH more usesfull than warrior on every wow activity

[wheat jay]

Every wow activity

[narrow compass]

Including trial of style

🥇

[hearty vault]

pvp 3v3 and rbg include

[wheat jay]

Damn I guess dh is just so good and filled with utility that it works well in every comp, with every class

[hearty vault]

@narrow compass yes too

[wheat jay]

3s dh is a dmg bot my guy, you do damage

[hearty vault]

warrior zug zug class?

[wheat jay]

You don't have anything even remotely close to warrior utility, except for cc that is basically the same as warrior

[zinc tartan]

blizzard has raid style for arena frames now

its really nice, we dont need sarena anymore i think

[fierce elm]

still doesnt show relevant information

[wheat jay]

Ye its ass compared to any arena addon

Like gladius or sarena

[zinc tartan]

just add another DR addon to it and we good?

[fierce elm]

so add another addon

which defeats the purpose of using blizzards own lmao

[zinc tartan]

what u guys think

[fierce elm]

No like

[wheat jay]

If you're gonna add addons to it, just use an addon that works as those frames by itself, but better

[zinc tartan]

trinket is alr on it iirc

but sarena doesnt have the ingame blizz layout theme

this style we dont have to look at class icons but class colors says enough

faster reaction : D

[narrow compass]

But im colorblind

And afraid of squirrels

Need colorblind squirellphobia mode

[zinc tartan]

ah yes ig

[wheat jay]

Gladiusex is another addon

You can set it up to look very similar if not the same as wow raid frames, with MUCH better functionality

But if you wanna use wow stuff, do your thing

[zinc tartan]

i mean, we need to only track 3 things on arena frames right?
trinket, cast and dr?

[fierce elm]

Trinket, cast, drs, LoS

yeah

drink

[zinc tartan]

oh los too kk

[fierce elm]

On more advanced its cooldowns and such

[zinc tartan]

drink is important idd

[fierce elm]

racials can be neat to track too

[wicked bison]

is there something i can do to stop pets from changing my target

[fierce elm]

yo new spec for warrior that has a pet

[hearty vault]

@fierce elm and paladins get more bubbles

oh wait, they really got 😄

[fierce elm]

we get the same amount of bubbles

[hearty vault]

in less than 30 seconds no

now yes

[fierce elm]

For someone who doesn't want to be right

you sure act as someone who needs to be right

[hearty vault]

read chat mate, I said a lot of times "you are right", I am not a kid trying to be right always. I only talked about paladin because u are main paladin, who got a lot of things and I hate paladins XD

[fierce elm]

I went out of this convo and you specifically tagged me

[hearty vault]

(joking)

[wheat jay]

Add /petattack to your macros

Bro this is like talking to a toddler

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay u are telling all time to my that RC and sharp are god skills...

[fierce elm]

EVERYONE LEFT THIS CONVERSATION

[hearty vault]

lets talk about other things in "warrior discord pvp chat"

[wheat jay]

Good skills, not god skills

[rancid granite]

this is why

if you have multiple children

on one of their birthdays - give the other ones a present too

or well in this case it's still a month and a half off

[urban skiff]

what ya'll drinking tonight?

I got hot cocoa with mint vodka

[rancid granite]

lemon and ginger tea with real ginger and lemons

[wheat jay]

I don't drink

[fierce elm]

Cherry Coke Zero

in vast amounts

[urban skiff]

Jealous as fuck

cherry pepsi was the goat as well

[wheat jay]

Ye that fat belly fits all that coke easily huh?

[fierce elm]

ITS COKE CHERRY ZERO

like what the fuck

Coke Cherry Zero and an ice towel because my arm and hand are swollen as fuck

[wheat jay]

[urban skiff]

don't drink towels

[hearty vault]

@wheat jay still, I am grateful to you, because I am here just to know your opinion and u are the only one talking with Skills and talents arguments. U are right but not convince me about "new warrior tww things" that other classes are getting

[rancid granite]

i'd be afraid to look anyone in the eyes too if i made statements like this

[wheat jay]

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-stare-bald-stare-crazy-stare-when-the-mfw-gif-193505551621232148

@fierce elm

[wicked bison]

can i macro op+sweeping togethor or they share gcd

[fierce elm]

that sounds awful

[violet fossil]

probably some whiskey

[urban skiff]

They're both on the gcd

[prime solar]

Sweep off GCD would be something

[urban skiff]

it should be off the GCD tbh

a lot of things should be

I'd love if BT was off the GCD and modified next autoattack

[cinder cipher]

I wanted to start learning pvp and I hear that fury is best atm. where can I find a good talent build for it? thanks 🙂

[urban skiff]

pins

[prime solar]

Main thing for me is getting into a fight if you don't bladestorm immediately you sit 6 seconds of consecutive CC - nothing to be done about it. just BS'in

[urban skiff]

literally always do that the first discord you go to

[dense herald]

https://youtu.be/4gwB9F9ntFg?si=J6wun9w4F8E33-02

[cinder cipher]

cheers mate 🙂

[urban skiff]

why are they charging at the same time instead of splitting their mobility?

[rancid granite]

where the shattering throws too lmao

[dense herald]

its arena skirmish what do u expect

[urban skiff]

sometimes zugzug is pressing W

sometimes zugzug is watching others press W and then mopping up when they get their zugzug stopped

splitting mobility cooldowns would be the selfish thing to do, and zugzug is love, but zugzug is also selfishness

selfish love

[hearty vault]

this 2 warriors played horrible, well it's skirmish, still they share dr stuns to stop him, as mage...

[urban skiff]

now this gonna be horrible

[elder mulch]

@elfin surge rate me 1-10 pls

[urban skiff]

that ele was mvp

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-pvp-ensembles-coming-with-patch-11-0-5-elite-ensembles-included-346491

What does this mean?

[low cobalt]

its just the appearances from last expansion being avail to purchase with marks of honor

just tmog stuff iirc

[urban skiff]

no no no

it's ELITE appearances

i.e. 1800+ transmogs

but it says something about having earned it before you can buy it. But if you earn it you already have it, doesn't make sense to me.

[fierce elm]

its weird

who knows

[cinder cipher]

question: what do I take for the fury warr pvp talents? the pin shows the primary and slayer talents, but not the bottom right pvp talents

[urban skiff]

maybe it's something weird about unlocking it on alt accounts

[urban skiff]

slaughterhouse mandatory, I like battlefield commander and I like to flex the third, usually barbarian or death wish or something else that's fun in bgs

[verbal tangle]

My goto 3 are Slaughterhouse, Battlefield Commander and Battle Trance

[violet fossil]

it’s like before

if you already have it you get it

[elder mulch]

whos got the pvp prot build

[verbal tangle]

@fallen estuary he needs the sauce

[elder mulch]

@fallen estuary yes pls

:3

[manic tendon]

so with the recent fury nerfs are you guys finding that arms and fury are on more equal footing?

[merry valley]

Not realy, Odyn's Fury still deals great damage and Roar nerf applies to both. The aa buff to Arms was irrelevant

[manic tendon]

so fury is still beating out arms

[verbal tangle]

Not even a question

[formal creek]

you getting haste or mastery for honor gear?

[verbal tangle]

DN

[manic tendon]

So is fury just dominating arms?

[verbal tangle]

Yes

[manic tendon]

to my understanding for fury its prio mastery and haste where you cant get mastery

[hardy sinew]

guys any prot pvp talents? where can i find?

[formal creek]

thanks

[hardy sinew]

up

[fallen estuary]

Oh

My

Gawd

Im in bed rn search up my toon

<---

[cobalt gale]

Haste prio as fury ?

Now?

[fallen estuary]

Crit + mastery

[hexed ether]

sometimes its about the right lighting

[worthy fern]

@hexed ether hallowfall easily my favorite zone of the last 3 xpac

[vale mango]

i have been rly enjoying pvp, just started really trying it for the first time today

has honestly been pretty fun

[wise parcel]

how many blinks do mages have

2 blinks, altered time (basically another 2 blinks?) and what else

[latent current]

2 blinks with shimmer, displacement, alter

[wise parcel]

whajt is displacement?

[lavish quest]

After mages blink they can use displacement to go back to where they last blinked from

[wise parcel]

What's cooldown on all this stuff?

[lavish quest]

So they can blink, run around a bit, then zip all the way back

Blink is around 20s I think? Displace I think 45s. Alter I forget

Pretty much they will always have mobility. Good luck

[wise parcel]

What about hunters? especially survival

seems like they are just as slippery as mage

[heavy tendon]

whats the fury pvp talents now?

stilll the same ones that are pinned?

[wise parcel]

and Alter time means I stop hitting htem?

Cuz theyre just gonna heal it all

[frigid orchid]

Do you drop OF in pvp now? for fury

[vale mango]

this was fun

[wise parcel]

Warbringer or Rebound VS double caster?

or dobule leap

[spice hornet]

Too low

Haven’t seen anyone play warbringer since they nerfed the dams significantly

Thanks to Mud

[hasty tartan]

Hey yall havnt PvPd since S1, for trinkets do we use cc break and main stat on use? or whats the best set up ,-.

[wise parcel]

Why are hunters so slippery? What Am I not understanding

[lucid walrus]

disengage matches charge's cd, frees them from roots, and gives them a speed buff

bursting/scatter shot, traps, and slows just as good as ours give them a lot to work with

[spice hornet]

If you over trade mobility into them it’s over you won’t touch them for awhile

But you should mostly be able to hit them

[wise parcel]

what other way do i have of reaching them

if i cant use mobility

oh if i OVER trade

what does that actually mean?

if everything is 1:1

[lucid walrus]

lots of micro plays. don't double tap charges, keep slows applied, even catch disengage with a cc if you're lucky

[wise parcel]

dude hwy the fuck can shadow priests and frost mages just walk through me

[boreal veldt]

how have they just let the brawl be bugged for the whole week hoooooly

[rare sentinel]

what are the stats verse mast/haste for fury pvp ?

[boreal veldt]

i think a lot are running powerful enrage + haste

[rare sentinel]

so its verse first then mastery for enrage and a bit of haste?

[boreal veldt]

str>vers>mast/haste>crit

[boreal veldt]

it depends what you want out of enrage regarding powerful or frenzied enrage

[wise parcel]

can we spell reflect touch of death

[boreal veldt]

no, it's physical

[spice hornet]

Nope

You can intervene it though

[wise parcel]

Reaaaaally, like if he's gonna use it on my friend?

[spice hornet]

Yes

But you’re probably gonna lose anyway

[rugged temple]

does slayer fury just stack haste versa like always?

[restive cobalt]

How many times are y'all gonna ask the same question about stat weights in a single day, read the pins. For the 20th time it's vers>mast>haste>crit

[boreal veldt]

my brotha, this is the nature of the disc

[restive cobalt]

I know, I've been here since legion. Lol

[urban skiff]

What recent fury nerfs? Troar/OF nerfs were neglible in the grand scheme

[urban skiff]

I'm having fun with this. I noted where i sometimes flex points

[latent current]

Prot??

[urban skiff]

As long as fury is mainstream I'm protting it up here

and playing enh

fury4lyfe but just not right now

[grand galleon]

Are you going to try prot for solo rbg?

[urban skiff]

It's what I did almost all of DF s4

plays the same as before, but now I can chunk mages for 1m shieldslams with no cooldown

get to look good while doing it too

[jovial gazelle]

hmm there is any website to check great looking transmogs for warrior ?

[urban skiff]

demolish on dummyt for 2.2m, not crit

[urban skiff]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/238066915187097600 this is a good place to start

[jovial gazelle]

Thank you sensei

[rugged temple]

Do you guys think solo shuffle or BG blitz will be more popular?

[cinder thorn]

Both

[marble bone]

Just queue for both, less dead time inbetween games 🙂

[hollow kelp]

LMAO is chains of ice really 90% again?

[wheat jay]

mofos cutting your legs

lmao

[lavish quest]

We're warriors. We're used to having no legs

[rugged temple]

Does fury still have to buy a 2nd weapon?

[fierce elm]

probably craft the 2nd weapon

[glacial sparrow]

what is the sweet spot of haste that fury warriors go for?

[fierce elm]

between 0% and 100%

[glacial sparrow]

thanks, thought ive heard about 20%, as a beginner id like to have some starting points to aim for

[fierce elm]

Honestly its literally between 0% and 100%

[glacial sparrow]

its just based on "feel" then?

[fierce elm]

yes

When it comes to haste its all about feel

[glacial sparrow]

alright

[fierce elm]

because 5% here or there wont make or break you

I would just buy all mastery pieces and then grab haste on the ones you cant grab mastery

then test it out

if it feels slow, swap out a mastery piece for a haste piece

[glacial sparrow]

thats fair

i was hoping for a lazy shortcut to aim for:p

[fierce elm]

we all do lmao

[pale crow]

what did they do to pvp this expac? damage in general is sooooo low

Pacing is slow, nothing dies, its a yawnfest

It reminds me to bfa in all the wrong ways

[fierce elm]

You mean what did they do to the PvP when the season hasnt started and we don't really have gear

lmao

Its probably looking to be a slower season, but they cant really just buff shit randomly rn because of tier sets and overall gear going up soon

[pale crow]

You can see a pattern there even if the season has not started yet

[fierce elm]

They are most likely looking at the outliers right now, but really we can't judge a season right now unfortunately

Even the 11.0.5 patch is bringing so much change because they clearly werent done on TWW launch

It also doesn't help that we went from dragonflight to this

with Dragonflight being extreme in the damage aspect

[pale crow]

when people has 8M hp pools and crit at most for 1,5m it's difficult to be very optimistic

[fierce elm]

I mean its a different thing

You might not enjoy it and that's okay

[pale crow]

i want to enjoy it, but if every game is going to be 20min into damp i might aswell not do pvp at all i guess

[urban skiff]

Hp will double with full conq

Damage will not double

[fierce elm]

thats a fair opinion, I would still wait to see how arena feels like 3 weeks into the season

but its looking to be slower

it feels yarring going from DF to this

[pale crow]

That's what i fear the most, its already slow and boring, if HP keeps ramping up and dmg stays the same its going to get much worst

[fierce elm]

I just hope that they bring tier sets power up

because right now its looking like 2-4% more damage from them

which is eh

But yeah, there is a ton of tuning to be done and I guess we have to see on tuesday/wednesday

[pale crow]

THe only way i see they fixing it is if they double the damage across the board in pvp, honestly

As i said, it reminds me of BFA pvp in all the worst possible ways

[fierce elm]

I mean that would be insane

looking at the top specs right now

[pale crow]

they can adjust afterwards, but im not talking about balance issues, it's the pace what feels off putting

[fierce elm]

Yes, but the season hasn't started and nobody has gear

there is no point in dooming about right now

[urban skiff]

Every expansion they try to slow arena down. It'll only work for start of this season. Then it will speed up and be out of control

[pale crow]

it's ok if it's fast paced, the problem usually is the oneshots

I hope im wrong, but if what were going to get is last season bfa redux where nobody did damage and suddenly you chained 3 procs from corrupted gear and someone got oneshoted

Man... dunno, hope that's not going to be the case

we will see i guess

[urban skiff]

Not sure how to make anything fast paced without enabling oneshots, without also altering cc and gcd times

[lavish quest]

Just do more damage

[fickle forge]

By making cooldowns weaker

[cinder thorn]

Look, if it's too fast people will complain and if it's too slow people will complain

I think it's OK right now, maybe actually a bit on fast side vs some classes

The healing is what makes it last longer so if you don't like 20min matches don't do pvp

Because BGs and arenas can and will take longer especially if its a closer skill level on both teams

But to be frank most games have 20min matches or longer

Anything too short becomes meaningless

You need to think that it needs to work for 2v2 3v3 and BGs

If you tune up damage then BGs will become unplayable as people will die too fast and if you tune it down then 2v2 and 3v3 will become unplayable thats why they introduce a mechanic like dampening to speed up closure

[fierce elm]

The issue with 20 minute games in 3v3 and 2v2 is that rating gain is so extremely slow

I think it's in a fine state for pre-season things

[fickle forge]

Oh yeah long ass games is usually the reason why I burn out

2s is the biggest offender

8-10 min matches for +14 when your MMR is 800 above your cr

😴

Big fun bro

[prime solar]

6 minutes ooiie

[fierce elm]

I LOVE DAMPENING

[fickle forge]

I was like 1800 cr when we did these games

And James rolling in on a fresh presvoker

Would take weeks to get our cr up to our mmr lmao

[worthy fern]

Pacing feels good in 3s to me

Had some really good 3s skirmishes lately

Nothing feels unkillable

[wraith sluice]

do u guys prefer fury slayer or thane for bgs ?

[cinder thorn]

They're both fun

Slayer single target thane aoe

[wraith sluice]

kk thy

[verbal tangle]

Slayer Fury both situations

[wraith sluice]

kk thy

[wraith sluice]

with ra or am ?

[verbal tangle]

I'm using RA

CB claps kiddies

[wraith sluice]

cb ?

[rare oak]

Hey how does one use onslaught

[tribal wedge]

crushing blow

[wraith sluice]

is it a talennt ? cant find it

[tribal wedge]

it is the name of the empowered raging blow friend

[wraith sluice]

ahhhh

thy thy ^^

sry still pretty new to the game

[tribal wedge]

np np

[verbal tangle]

By hitting people with it

It's a source of Enrage (you are taking Tenderize)

[tribal wedge]

i use it as my opener to enrage me

[verbal tangle]

^

With RA you use it after buffed buttons if you didn't get enough rage to ramp

[wraith sluice]

buffed buttons ?

[tribal wedge]

crushing blow, bloodbath (empowered raging blow and bloodthirst)

[wraith sluice]

ahh kk thy

[wraith sluice]

can u maybe post a full talent build ur using right now ... for arenas

[fierce elm]

It's almost like they exist in the pins

[tribal wedge]

the same as the one in the pins, and you switch anger amangement by reckless abandon if you wish to

[wraith sluice]

ahhh okay thy

[elder mulch]

Prot warrior better than arms lmfao

[verbal tangle]

Unironically

[rancid granite]

demolish spear build is so dang fun tho

[fierce elm]

cant wait for season to start

there are going to be so much drama in here about frost mages

its gonna be glorious

[granite quest]

What are your plans/priorities for gearing?

[lavish quest]

Just show them what's up

[deft wharf]

Anyone know where the time machine to go back to df s4 is?

Kinda liked being able to kill things 1v1 as fury

[boreal veldt]

buncha dragons and mages in these bgs, feels bad

[elfin sinew]

fury slaps I don't know what you are talking about

mages and flying dragons are problem in general, not only now lol

[deft wharf]

talkin duels

in bgs yea, fury is slapping shit

i'm prob playing the wrong xpac if I wanna duel on warr

[urban skiff]

yooooo why is it so enjoyable to play with a mage?

[honest harness]

So I am in low lvl PvP goofing off and every single match there are these 2 dudes that are unkillable doing insane damage just sitting in our spawn. Why is this?

[cinder thorn]

They might be twinks

[honest harness]

What is a twink? I’ve seen that like 4 times in chat

[cinder thorn]

So let's say you're in 10-19 bracket

They will have all the perfect gear enchanted with cheeky high level enchants sometimes and will likely be one shotting people

You got no chance unless you're a twink yourself

[mystic prairie]

pilav is back

[cinder thorn]

You will level up hit 20 and pass them

They will turn xp off and farm noobs in that brackets, it's a stupid thing to do, probably for bad players who can't handle the actual competitive pvp at max level

Just keep leveling up

Pass that bracket then pvp again

[honest harness]

No that is awful. I’m some what new and my wife just started playing and we lose terribly bad every match to them

Thanks man! Really appreciate it, it’s turning her off of the game. She is convinced wow is full of hackers praying on new players

[cinder thorn]

Yes, don't bother keep leveling up, they will stay in that bracket and you will pass them

No problem

Yeah there's actually a community of twinks it's a thing for many years now

It happens because up to level 20 the game is free

So people make a twink then stop paying and just play that

[wheat jay]

HE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-the-rock-rock-go-rock-lets-go-lg-gif-18455293

[honest harness]

Thanks for the info dude! Have a good weekend

[urban skiff]

very beautiful young gay man or a low-level character that has been twinked out in the best (and easily accessible) gear

[cinder thorn]

You too, if you struggle with anything else gimme a shout

Don't let kids and toxic people bother you either just right click their name and ignore don't even bother replying to them

My ignore list is full of monkeys

[dark topaz]

[cinder thorn]

🤢

[urban skiff]

That's a weird reaction

[random fractal]

bro i actually

have never had such fun in pvp in awhile

prot warrior in ashran is busted and insanely fun

[rancid granite]

I'm convinced to try it out tonight

I got knocked off the map in eots from the dragon charge talent this morning lol

[random fractal]

if you are able to continuously hit someone you are almost unkillable in ashran

its pretty much like how guardian druid and blood dk use to b

i repaired at the start of the bg, end of the bg my belt was broken

[rancid granite]

interesting I can't wait to q up

[random fractal]

im not even haste stacking which would make me tankier, all my pieces are 626 mast/vers or crit/vers pieces (fury player)

[wise cargo]

didn't play much DF where crafting was new, do we know what the best crafted gear is goona be / do we use any?

[hexed ether]

double bs slayer fury war is the way.

[urban skiff]

prot is great

[urban skiff]

remember you can stop dragon charge early with a cancelaura macro

[rancid granite]

oh good to know

I was getting so bored with fury I was thinking of going back maining rogue: but demolish bringing me back

and now prot fun even better

spear both specs 💪

[urban skiff]

I'm trying a new thing with demolish

making it a castsequence with demolish->leap

I feel like the leap throws them off

like they're not seeing the animation

[pure hornet]

How come unholly dk allways has double my danage

M*

[cinder thorn]

Aoe whoring?

[wise parcel]

How do I hanlde this matchup?

[cinder thorn]

is the profession repeatable quests once a week or once a day?

[grand galleon]

Once a week

[cinder thorn]

oh cool thx

[pure hornet]

Focus lock cc priest

[dense herald]

LESSSSSSSSSSSSSG OGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I DONT BELIEVE IT

OMG

MY FAV

I THOUGHT IT WAS FAKE BUT I CHECKED IT

[wheat jay]

Fam

You think I'd send fake shit?

[fair bough]

I swear some healers are just unkillable in BGs. Max stacks of Slaughterhouse and bursting on them and they just don't fall over. Feel like I'm beating on Senator Armstrong sometimes

[wise parcel]

What about this one:

[fierce elm]

you cry

you cry is what you do

[wheat jay]

You walk to them

[rancid granite]

wipe your eyes and pray instead

[dense herald]

he isnt screaming anymore tho 😦

[wheat jay]

VERY slowly

[wheat jay]

Yet

[dense herald]

pilav playing an orc is actually pog

[fair bough]

Zug Smash >

[hazy burrow]

salyer or colossus for arms?

[rancid granite]

your choice

[wise parcel]

How do we beat Devastation evoker? Their mobility and cc-immune/kick immune

Makes it hard to slow down their damage

[zenith marlin]

ait

thane and slayer both feel like shit for fury

Bros will not have me use thunderclap as a fury

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-alegre-sorriso-burro-gif-14645687

[prime solar]

Does anyone know how many rolls and dashes monks have in pvp now?

Just saw some shit that made me question what I know about the game

[fierce elm]

4 technically

combined with one teleport

should be, two rolls, one serpent thing, one dash on tiger palm and teleport

[prime solar]

Just saw some shit in WSG that makes me less excited for blitz lol

[fierce elm]

thats just monks in general since they were released

[prime solar]

They were also immune to CC during all of these. had like 4 people on it.

[fierce elm]

they have always had double roll+serpent fly thing

and teleport lmao

[wheat jay]

Rolls got 2nd dash

[lavish quest]

Tiger palm dash is gone

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

[lavish quest]

Reworked it away

Ret noob

[fierce elm]

wack af

[vapid rover]

Hello all,
Does we know the amount of damage the intimidating shout can handle ? i want to know if during the fear wich spell i can do to not break it
I know i can cast hamstring or impending victory, but i dont know what is the limit

[rancid granite]

god damn Demolish's tooltip so missleading

while channeling immune to forced movement effects

runs away horrified and feared mid channel

[cinder thorn]

I thought u can't be cced during demo

[rancid granite]

i suppose not all kinds lol

[zenith marlin]

ye healers are fkn boring

https://tenor.com/view/don-fry-ufc-cornered-fight-gif-4812519

POV two warriors for 20 mins with a healer on each side

[cinder thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/zerosgifs-gif-20855209

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-wwe-wrestler-just-woke-up-bad-mood-gif-5289437

The prot war

[crystal laurel]

which gears can be enchanted for pvp?

[spice hornet]

Get the BetterCharacterPanel addon

It’s not on desktop app but google it and it’s goated for seeing your own missing enchants or gems

Shows other peoples as well if you inspect them tons of people missing stuff

[crystal laurel]

yea

[boreal veldt]

@urban skiff i'm trying prot, i feel the potential but my rotation is garbo teach me oh knowledgeable one

is it just IP and slam spam?

but like seriously are they not going to address the entire brawless week?

[clear quiver]

is arms comparible to fury in pvp or is fury just king rn?

[spice hornet]

Fury a bit better and just feels better to play

[winged matrix]

Guys, can i fprget haste on pvp s?

or should i have a lil bit s?

fury*

[fallen estuary]

Tclap spam for demo cd reduct, SS, burst

Ignore pain spam is always to go for but revenge is good as well

Ignore pain has no icd

[winged matrix]

Just to be clear, im pvp as fury, and i'm ignoring HASTE, should i change that ?

[lime kayak]

Yo warrior buddies I have a tank warrior (wanted to use him for pve only) and a shaman (wanted to focus on pvp with him) i am fairly new to retail and I just wanna get into that juicy grind but my question is what ur experience is with warriors or shamans in general?

Which class is better to master for pvp

Which class offers more for the team (3v3)

And how can I find nice dudes to grind!

Thank u my beloved warriors

[pure hornet]

This you just pray and hit resign

[urban skiff]

Whichever you like best, will be best for you. Playing something you don't enjoy is a miserable experience.

It's the boring answer but they're about the same

[merry valley]

Go full Mastery, then get Haste in the pieces you cant get Mastery

[urban skiff]

What are we training today boys?

[fierce elm]

its sunday

its the lords day

today we train our beliefs and faith

IM JUST KIDDING SUNDAY IS FUCKING LEEEEEEEEEEEEGS

[proud breach]

scared me for a sec

3 more hours before hitting the gym

[wheat jay]

afro spoken like a true paladin

[buoyant chasm]

better to go mastery versa or haste versa on honor gear for fury pvp?

[urban skiff]

Ended up doing seated pin press, feeling weak so nothing fancy

[fierce elm]

wack

my arm is still swollen so cant workout

[urban skiff]

My elbow is killing me all of a sudden after the big bug boring sets. Idk why i can press 90 ez but 45 murders me. It doesn't seem fair

[fierce elm]

So volume sets? those can be a bitch

[forest terrace]

Is the quest for the conquest weapons this upcoming week or are we not able to complete it right away?

[fierce elm]

3 weeks into the season

[forest terrace]

So we should just be spending conquest on main stat pieces first right?

[fierce elm]

Should pop up 3 weeks in and just complete iirc

yes

[forest terrace]

Sweet tyty

[verbal tangle]

You mean play DW Paladin (Fury) and blare Powerwolf out your speakers so that the entire block hears it

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/powerwolf-fire-and-forgive-power-metal-gif-21834555

[violet fossil]

stay hating leg day

[graceful sinew]

Where you all planning to put your embellishments? And are you going to go with the vers one? Thanks!

[formal creek]

wish both arms and fury stat prio was the same, i wanna play arms but wanna be able to swap to fury if arms really isnt up to par for my level of play

[rancid granite]

you and me both buddy

i figure ill just take the leap of faith and play arms and whatever happens, happens

[formal creek]

i might do the same

[copper fox]

Brother your elbow is killing you and you’re doing seated pin press. The torque on your elbow from those since you take away the full contraction is massive

[urban skiff]

Starting from a higher position, torque should be lower than starting at bottom, no?

[copper fox]

I guess it would depend. If you’re starting from around 90 degrees it would be more

Just like knees, we want full flex and extension for health

Another tip is when you’re using a barbell, have the majority of the pressure/squeeze pinpointed towards the pinky end of the palm

That’ll help reduce elbow pain as well

[urban skiff]

I'm using fatgrips to mimic axle bar, and suicide grip to avoid strain on wrist

It's only very occasionally my elbows shit on me. But it's always from volume work and not heavy lifts

[copper fox]

That’s fine you can still put the emphasis of the grip towards the pinky end of your palm to help.

Also same. Any time something hurts it’s from sets of 5+ 😂

[urban skiff]

Proof that cardio kills gains

[copper fox]

I’d rather do 10x3 with short rest than 3x10 any day of the week

[urban skiff]

I want to say my grip is almost like bench press, bar following the crease semi-diagonally across hand

[copper fox]

Do you use wrist wraps? I actually stopped using wrist wraps and fixed my grip position a bit to be not so locked in and I haven’t had elbow issues since

Was a bit of a mental adjustment for sure

Especially with heavy benching

Losing the wrist wraps

[urban skiff]

I dont for volume. I do for heavy with fatgrips because they're getting old and if i don't squeeze them they can roll on the bar.

High weight squeezes for me

[copper fox]

Yea that’s valid. You need to join a gym that has axles haha

[urban skiff]

Homegymming for the last few years. It's great but also kills gains.

Great and sucks for different reasons

When we get more space i buy the axle and a log bar

[copper fox]

Yea idk if I’d be motivated to lift at home lol I enjoy the going to the gym part personally. But home gyms have their benefits for sure

[elder mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/glowin-in-the-dark-glowin-in-the-dark-gif-25328236

[urban skiff]

Boi got moves. Glorious

Must be a fury player. No way arms is that comfortable with themselves

[elder mulch]

A true warrior is always comfortable

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eyeing-chloe-chloe-cute-huh-what-gif-17817419

[lime kayak]

gahahaha

[fallen solar]

Y’all know when the restore character is gonna be back?

Shits frustrating it’s been out this long

[lavish quest]

Isn't it just on like a 6m cd? So 6m from when you used it

[elder mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-guy-kissing-gif-19715425

Me and @elfin surge

Guess who’s who

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/no-please-stop-stop-dont-will-ferrell-gif-10893312

[fallen solar]

Na it’s every 7 days you can restore a character

The service has been out since July though

[muted breach]

guys is arms slayer viable for pvp?

i feel like colossus needs so much buildup

and that shitty skill where we cannot move and can be avoided if they move 1 step away is so annoying

[rancid granite]

everything viable atm

[wheat jay]

Yes

Although, we'll know for sure in few weeks

[rancid granite]

probably will still be viable

even prot warr seems viable in bgs lol

[narrow compass]

I dont see many Arms wars in Skirms and BGs all week long...beside me 😦

but fuck it, I enjoy Arms more

[muted breach]

yeah same I prefer arms but if it's better to go fury then fuck it

thanks for the answers mates ❤️

[rancid granite]

have some confidence play what you like

as long as it's not D tier

[lavish quest]

It's F tier 😉

[rancid granite]

F for friggin fantastic

[lavish quest]

Now you're just lying to yourself

[rancid granite]

fine

F for friggin alright

[wheat jay]

Arms?

[lavish quest]

Yes

[wheat jay]

Nah

Like b tier

[lavish quest]

Someone isn't sticking to the script.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1198213371154153484.gif?quality=lossless&name=ragey&size=48

[wheat jay]

My script is playing survi tho

And man am I playing it