pvp

[urban skiff]

read the description

[copper fox]

Every macro is typed out in the description of the video

[chilly pivot]

worth to grind honor to buy gems ?

[copper fox]

There’s no arena specific tww guide yet because there’s no arena in tww yet. Once the season starts I’m sure there will be more arena specific guides but you really don’t need them to do well on fury.
You need damage.

[dense lark]

Ya people arent really gonna be dropping vids while heavy tuning is still going on

Fury could get absolutely dumpstered in the 2 weeks

[lavish quest]

Just what you happen to find fun is always the fotm reroll

Artji going ham today tho lol

[urban skiff]

grind honor, buy gems

sell when season starts and people get conq pieces

Then buy back 4+ weeks into the season when the price plummets

[wheat jay]

When, in mop or what

[wheat jay]

Lmao somehow ye

Not anymore tho, both dh and survi are apparently weak in 3s haha

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-why-does-this-keep-happening-to-me-why-me-spongebob-why-do-these-things-happen-to-me-gif-18212805

Now you're a fury war main. We both know it

[wheat jay]

Suffering from success

[wheat jay]

Nah, kargo plays warr in our comp haha

[lavish quest]

So you're a DK main. Got it

[glossy cliff]

ive seen people hard mastery stack for pvp is that right?

for fury

[wheat jay]

Nah

I could play frost in pve

[lavish quest]

I'm gonna try to play a few see how it goes. PvE I'll probably main prot/dps war. Primarily alt resto sham funny enough.
For pvp... probably just warrior. Or maybe ret/ww/dk if they become uber meta

[wheat jay]

Ngl dh looks fun in pve and pvp now

Wirh hero talents

[dense herald]

Already got big nerf

[lavish quest]

I just heard a bunch of dooming about the hero talents

[cyan lake]

I know it's against the meta, but im going to give Colossus Prot a go in BG blitz. I also have an Orc Warr ill go Arms/Fury
Ive been going over Prots tool kit, and to me it seems they're better in the team fight for shutting down teams than sitting at a flag

[rancid granite]

thats not a big nerf really

[merry pelican]

jo is it just me or are evoker healers simply not killable? Idk what we could do. Hes not casting anything somehow and still healing against 4 people and staying at 100% nonstop.

And to add, hes meanwhile somehow killing us aswell because his disintegrate ticks with 250k.... Hes at this point soloing the bg

[dense herald]

20% nerf to OF and OF deals minimum 30% of ur burst

[rancid granite]

S++ tier is only S+ tier now

wouldnt consider that a nerf

[urban skiff]

Give enh a go

[urban skiff]

Stop trying to kill healers in content that isn't scaled appropriately. In bgs healers are kings and queens

Your goal is to run them oom, cc them, or prevent them from getting to the next team fight

[wheat jay]

I would but i dont like healing others with offheals

@fickle forge ain't getting a single heal from me

Best I can do is remove his bleeds and poisons

Man's already living like a king with freedom once evrry 20 games

[urban skiff]

don't, i just use chain heal on myself

if they die they die

[rancid granite]

sounds like @fierce elm

[fierce elm]

sadge cant play wow cus busy being tattooed

[urban skiff]

did someone say @fierce elm ??

[rancid granite]

me i said @fierce elm

he loves not supporting his teammates

he def a warrior at heart

[urban skiff]

@fierce elm sounds great

do we have any arena frames that work yet?

[grand prism]

Any one fucked around with popping on a shield when getting focused? Might be viable for mountain thane. Can do everything but rampage and raging blow with shield on, plus shield block.
Seems like I'm rubbing my two brains cells too hard cause shields are decidedly dorky and not cool

[elfin surge]

weapon swapped has been dead since legion

[grand prism]

Has it? I was able to switch manually vs target dummies so I just assumed macros would make it viable. A flat 15%~ dr from the armor on shield of idk how that armor number is treated in pvp anymore.
I'm fine with it being dead I was just really high and went "ohhh shit shields exist"

[urban skiff]

everything but the two biggest damage dealers you can

execute is also both weapons

bloodthirst too

[grand prism]

Oh execute too yeah. I mean ideally it would be rare situations
You can bloodthirst with a shield on

[urban skiff]

you can but you deal less damage

like 33% less

actually my bad. Bloodthirst doesn't use both weapons

it's full dam

[elfin surge]

you really want to do 0 damage and drop warpaint buff

[grand prism]

Bladestorm unhinged blood thirst and enraged Regen together pretty much full hp .

XD I'm not smart that's why I asked you guys

Again totally dumb for arena just very idiot thoughts

[elfin surge]

yeah they killed weapon swapping long ago

shield bash and block are for level 1-10 leveling

[grand prism]

Das fine I will continue to not consider shields as existing

[urban skiff]

just play prot

It's hella fun

[elfin surge]

cmon bruh

[grand prism]

I haven't touched prot

[urban skiff]

big crits

[grand prism]

The only prot class I kinda liked was dh but I didn't even finish levelling

Not as cool as two big swords

Ty for input I will lock this idea up with all the other ones

[urban skiff]

swapping weaponsets is off the gcd so it's basically free to always swap to shield in dstance and swap back before using anything with damage

the macro function is /equipset and you can do a conditional for [equipped:setname]

as with everything else, try for yourself and report the results

there's no shame in being wrong and anyone who ridicules you for not concluding it without trying is braindead and you can freely disregard them as people

most important that you make informed decisions

skip the monkeys/ladders thing

mage dam so wild

disregard my 1m shield slam crit

[verbal tangle]

Colossus?

[urban skiff]

Didnt get one off

[verbal tangle]

mao

Is it even worth casting?

Or do you just sit at 10 stacks

[urban skiff]

I just sit 10 stacks

just having it and them knowing I have it makes them play radically different

mage keeps a blink or block instead of using it

rogue will try everything he can to vanish it, even going so far as to trinket a stormbolt

idk, it's skirmish and I'm sure it's not the brightest players

this is dumb

[verbal tangle]

Tanking Chaos Bolts?

[urban skiff]

sure

I'm so shit at landing demolish

[distant wharf]

pos to farm honor gear now?

[fallen estuary]

Wait wait wait

Prots back?

It isnt joever?

Is it time for me to return?

[urban skiff]

Look the numbers

Big dam

[wise parcel]

I know the macros are down there lol. I'm saying that his explanation of how to play the class and spec was confusing

and it was all explained on test dummies

[lavish quest]

Imagine the test dummy is a player and you're good to go

[boreal veldt]

yeah colossus is near useless in skirms lmao

well the button is anyway

[vocal cedar]

If I wanted to try pvp for first time would using a warrior be easier than another class

[boreal veldt]

the idea is easy, get close, hit face

[vocal cedar]

Lol ok good to know

[violet fossil]

warrior or hunter

[vocal cedar]

Thanks and which pvp should I ease into

[violet fossil]

Have you done any bgs?

[cyan lake]

Pair Spear with a Demo. It takes a set up

Im playing Col Prot and its really fun. I'm not the best, but im having fun

As prot you are disruptive af

[vocal cedar]

Never played pvp ever

[fierce elm]

do BGs, read about DRs, jump into arena

suck for like 300 games

then slowly become better

[vocal cedar]

Ok cool

[violet fossil]

pretty much

[fierce elm]

Yeah, you pretty much just read a lot

and learn from each game

[vocal cedar]

I just like the pvp sets and want to try to get some

[fierce elm]

watch a lot of PvP

[violet fossil]

it can get a bit demoralizing but push on through

[fierce elm]

Find someone who wants to learn a healer

boom bam do 2s

learn the rotation inside out for your spec

takes like a few hours at most

[boreal veldt]

i gotta remember 2s always suck as a warr

preseason been too long

[fierce elm]

kek

Warrior can be an extremely good 2s spec

wdym

[boreal veldt]

nonsense

he speaks the bullshit

[fierce elm]

lmao

am I BEING BAITED RN

[boreal veldt]

lmaooooo

[violet fossil]

always thought war was still solid in 2s

[fierce elm]

it is

I GOT BAITED

REAL BIG BAITED

[wheat jay]

Big fish afro

Falling for every bait

Also ye, warr can be very good in 2s

All depends on meta

[boreal veldt]

i'm framing that on my wall

[urban skiff]

either download hekili or just use follow this

but swap bt and rb imho

[wise parcel]

Hekili in PVP?

[lavish quest]

2s sucks as warrior. Least fun activity in wow. No bait lul

[boreal veldt]

@fierce elm

[wheat jay]

Just need another broken mechanic like condemn charge

[lavish quest]

Remove pillars. Remove mages.

[wise parcel]

Is it true that in arena, fury warrior is 3x easier to play than sub rogue?

[rancid granite]

maybe 4x

[wise parcel]

For real??

It kinda seems like the skill ceiling of warrior is determined by how well you can avoid getting kited while pumping consistent damage

[lavish quest]

Afro silent cuz he wrong. And can't hold eye contact kek

[wheat jay]

Can you play with 123 macros?

[wise parcel]

If my target escapes and I know I have no movement abilities left, should I just hit whatever is close to me?

[wheat jay]

Yes

Always hit something

[wise parcel]

Where does fury warrior rank in arena for most consistent damage profile

It's consistent high damage right?

Plus the mortal strike adds a ton of extra pressure moreso than other classes

[lavish quest]

No get kited by mage and then complain like me

[wheat jay]

Top

[wise parcel]

Really??

[wheat jay]

Fury is overtuned as fuck apparently

Expect nerfs

[wise parcel]

So as long as I'm zugging something I'm probably gonna win?

[rancid granite]

thats warrior

applying pressure 24/7

[wise parcel]

Because overtuned consistent damage + 36% mortal strike will just put the enemy team so far behind

[wise parcel]

I'm in love

[rancid granite]

ABC'S always be crushing someone

or however it went

lmao

always be crackin' skulls

[wheat jay]

Thats every class and spec yes

[gusty zinc]

Sooo.....many...frost....mages.....🐌

[rancid granite]

A+ update no one knows about

[lavish quest]

They're all criminals

[lavish quest]

We know about it... it's not even an update.

Pull it, I dare you

[rancid granite]

update from not too long ago

I DO PULL IT

[lavish quest]

I pulled it many times

[rancid granite]

😳

[wise parcel]

That's not even remotely true for rogue

or healer

[fair bough]

I swear if I ever get my hands on one of those mages...

WTB Death Grip

[wheat jay]

It is, once you learn dmg rotation its just landing cc and trading cooldowns

Same shit for every dps

Healer has one difference of having to be more aware of drs and cc than dps

And defensively rogue is one of the better classes in the game, with magic immunity, evasion which is basically physical immunity, all the cc in the world, and a cheat death

[wise parcel]

ok my charactesr name is "Imhimbruh"

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Does it hurt you to hear basics of pvp?

[kind sentinel]

I hate the rogue cloak talent so much

[wise parcel]

wow pvp is so unintuitive

[wheat jay]

It becomes intuitive once you learn what every ability does, or have a rough understanding

The knowledge requirement to be good in pvp is just very high

[wise parcel]

i play every competitive video game in history and none of it translate to this

[copper fox]

This might be the craziest sentence typed today

[wheat jay]

And you ended up in wow

Sheesh

[rancid granite]

wow ain't a competitive game

it's an online role playing game first pvp second

[lavish quest]

Second is a bit of a stretch

It just barely pulls ahead of pet battling

[viscid cairn]

What hero tree is gonna be it for blitz? Is it just Colossus for all pvp modes.

[wise parcel]

what makes it crazy

[copper fox]

Hard to choose. It’s between you playing every single competitive video game that’s existed and you struggling to grasp world of Warcraft PvP after playing every single competitive video game that’s existed.

[river zodiac]

That's a lot of gaming brother

[fossil mortar]

Every single game game with a competitive element. There are not enough hours in a human lifetime to do that

[pallid comet]

whichever of you are on stormrage fuck you guys for abusing shard exploits to pussy out of fights

[prime solar]

Does anyone know when the world pvp chest spawns time wise? I heard its every 6 hours

[low cobalt]

Ive also played every competitive game in the whole world

Just sayin

[boreal veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[wise parcel]

Is bladestorm good on single target? Like if I'm on a healer 1v1

[rain ravine]

yes

[wise parcel]

how come?

it applies MS?

[rain ravine]

you do 2 BTs or MSs during it if talented

and youre immune to any instant ccs they could do on you like bash

[wise parcel]

nice!

and this

[toxic whale]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-twerking-lopezthemijo08-tiktok-omar-lopez-murillo-gif-20509499

[wise parcel]

how do we deal with frost mages

[cobalt gale]

Arms does 0 dmg

It’s so bad

[wise parcel]

we dont cleave with whirlwind in pvp right?

like whirlwind doesnt make us cvleave

[prime solar]

Trying to trade buttons profitably is very hard against frost and arcane. It's a lot of trial and error with duels to practice.

You'll only ever get about 1-2 seconds to press any actual damaging moves against them before they're gone from you.

[wise parcel]

So I need to make a mage friend and duel him all day?

[prime solar]

Plenty to practice with in the dueling area in Dornegal

[urban skiff]

play prot, wipe them out with 1m shieldslams spammable

[queen peak]

I've been trying out Colossus arms and am usually top 3 in damage for BGs. It's not fury but I like the play style more

[sharp meteor]

We don't.

[fierce elm]

My favorite thing is someone joining, sending 2 messages about arms is bad and then never writing again lmao

[low cobalt]

collosus arms in skirms is fun af ngl

[celest basalt]

does pvp gear scale in warmode ?

[fierce elm]

when in combat with other players or in pvp areas yes

[celest basalt]

k so thats why everyone has like double hp openworld

[fickle forge]

Hey guys what flavour ice cream should I be eating as arms warr in TWW?

[fierce elm]

Burnt butter

[tender tangle]

What should my squat,bench,deadlift be to optimize arms warr dps when season starts?

[fierce elm]

bench: 315, deadlift: 600+ squat: 500+ in lbs

[elfin sinew]

That gym and warrior narrative is bonkers lol

look at human mages, they be lifting too

reading books and sporting huge biceps

I did 20 2v2 skirmishes yesterday as fury with assassination rogue. I haven't seen a single dps+healer comp. Is this the thing these days? two dps comp only?

or is this only at skirmish level?

[floral basin]

Afaik healers only get 3v3 skirms

[elfin sinew]

Ah, if that's the case then it makes sense

[rigid hill]

does anyone have death wish tracker?

[fickle forge]

Oh yeah? You're a mage main? Name 10 books

[elfin sinew]

never played mage

That's not a good mage test.. just name film and, hopefully, some of movies you know are based on the books.

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[fickle forge]

Bro cannot name 10 books

He's illiterate

[vapid estuary]

How on earth some ppl made already Sparking Battle achievement?

[fierce elm]

bunch of alts

[vapid estuary]

Still don't understand how they do it

[elfin surge]

gaming

[sharp oar]

fellas what makes slayer fury that much better than anything arms can do

[thick reef]

damage

[elfin sinew]

Arms slayer is a spec that shouldn't exist.. Arms colossus should be a thing but it isn't

Slayer fury is better in any aspect but defense imho

And it's all very sad cause I prefer arms

[onyx marlin]

im sure they will do balance one week after season start, dont worry about it yet

[elfin sinew]

Sure, I don't mind. Getting used to pvp as fury

[onyx marlin]

i do xD i dont wanna play fury tbh

[lavish quest]

I mean... the quest isn't hard... doesn't take uber long to do. So if they determined enough they can grind.
I'm haven't because I know I'll prob end up doing it 5 times on 1 toon anyways

[buoyant chasm]

Let fury be better once 🥲

[rancid granite]

i was ARMS enjoyer always but it turns out fury is fun too

[cinder thorn]

Prot is fun too

[rancid granite]

yeah for pve

[marble bone]

How people manage to play colosus smash in pvp is beyond me, they just waddle away from me (yes I know I should stun, but everyone is DRed in BGs 😅)

[lavish quest]

They roll fury slayer, that's how

[marble bone]

Ye me aswell, just saw Bajh video and decided to try. Think I got off two smashes in a BG 😂 takes getting used to for sure

Need to build a crit set and give it a go in skrims I think, less chaotic

Get my stacks, Pop Cds, stun the poor fool and go to town

[urban skiff]

What does that mean

[dark topaz]

juicy Demolish hits

[verbal tangle]

Even Baj is on prot gaming now

[rancid granite]

does it do real dmg? lol

[elfin surge]

guys arms isnt that down bad is it

[lavish quest]

Means he can't read

[elfin surge]

we're thinking prot now?

cmon bruh

[verbal tangle]

He hit a 1mil crit Shield Slam

[proud breach]

Glad spec when

[verbal tangle]

Right now lmao

Colossus Prot

[proud breach]

[rancid granite]

sword and shield theme sounds awesome for the rp aesthetics

i wish

[verbal tangle]

Fuck with it in bgs/skrims

It's actually kinda fucked atm, you just wall everyone

[boreal veldt]

it's honestly not that bad

just not as zug zug as fury gets to be

[elfin surge]

the cope bruh

[boreal veldt]

don't cope shame me

i'm just a man

[elder mulch]

who up playin with they worm

bring back arms

[elfin surge]

[elder mulch]

fury gunna get another 10% odyn nerf

[elfin surge]

what is that

[elder mulch]

am i drippy? @elfin surge

[boreal veldt]

im getting off disc

[elfin surge]

i dislike your character customization choices.

[elder mulch]

bruh

im NE no way u hate the dog race

[rancid granite]

really living up to the name rat god

[elder mulch]

guys i have drip ok

[boreal veldt]

[elder mulch]

let me kill mythic sark rq

get mount drop and ill come back

[dark topaz]

gl

[urban skiff]

Is he following me around? I want my recognition for being first mover

[elfin surge]

lookin like a Moonguard main

[urban skiff]

#pvp message

[elder mulch]

meanwhile frost dk mark 1.5m

[urban skiff]

just nerf chill streak bro

[real briar]

whats the addon to show u whats the other team in skrim

[urban skiff]

just play prot

laugh at frost mages all day

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-ones-he's-right-you-know-maxmoefoe-max-and-chad-gif-3027033148836415163

[elder mulch]

@elfin surge

ok do i got drip

which drip set

[iron fractal]

How’s arms compared to fury if you wanna do world PvP and bg’s?

[real briar]

where did u get 1st shit? and pants?

[tribal holly]

Go out and test out which one you prefer

[elder mulch]

fuckin gottem

@real briar pants from trading post

shirt i dont remember its a pirate shirt

[elfin surge]

#3

[elder mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/danderson-writing-daniel-larson-daniel-larson-writing-gif-2180786344632662216

[iron fractal]

I used to main arms until fury survival was boosted, helps when you often play solo or with dps friends

[tribal holly]

Well there you go

Its a game play whatever you like

[fierce elm]

Fury is better

Because more sustain on its own

[elfin surge]

invite 4 pocket healers and then you can play bgs

[iron fractal]

Bajheera style?

[fierce elm]

YOU WILL PLAY THE META SPEC AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

[tribal holly]

Make me

[fierce elm]

I dont have energy rn

[tribal holly]

🐔

[fierce elm]

How much will back to back days of being tattooed impact my gameplay

should I reroll

[real briar]

perf time to get tatted you will be fine by sunday

[fierce elm]

But I wanna GAME NOW

[hot solstice]

no sparks this week?

[stuck axle]

Does champion's Spear works in pvp? The chain to the location part

[worthy fern]

Yes

[lavish quest]

Better than arms

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[urban skiff]

sparks only for active seasons

[hot solstice]

thats why asking

[urban skiff]

oh that spark

it's half a spark per week so you should get second next reset

[hot solstice]

cause I cant see quest for this week

[urban skiff]

it's not from a quest

right?

idk what happened to that warlock but protdemolishlol

1.3m hit

[hot solstice]

prevo damage though

[urban skiff]

yea

prevo warr warlock or mage is probably going to be the shit

unless ret goes wild

[tribal holly]

🙂

[urban skiff]

Troar is such a disappointment

[elfin surge]

buff arms warrior

[urban skiff]

ww seems like they're doing ok

[wise parcel]

Which enchant is your guys favorite for pvp

[chilly pivot]

alright the nerf comes today, did we change the build something?

[gusty zinc]

Wasn't that yesterday?

[chilly pivot]

maby 😄

[gusty zinc]

I've run in to a few warriors using spear again in skirms but haven't really messed with my build much

Damage overall still seems beefy to me.

[rancid granite]

don't dramatize seeing a nerf

S++ tier to S+ tier

relaaaax

[fierce elm]

oh my god its C tier now

[urban skiff]

Barely that big a deal. Troar dealt pitiful damage

[rancid granite]

yeah but people wanna be dramatic

[urban skiff]

Troae biggest plus was being a 5% dmg boost

[dense herald]

what is this name

[dense herald]

20% of nerf is big

[cinder thorn]

ok I have a question, I usually struggle when being focused in BG's especially in open areas

any advice from the bros?

[kind sentinel]

Avoid going outside at all costs

(on the real, save leap to get away from bad situations)

[fierce elm]

get a pocket healer

[cinder thorn]

I usually save leap for that yes, but when focused u often get rooted and cant leap away

[cinder thorn]

there is no pocket healer in blitz 😛

[fierce elm]

Duo queue

[cinder thorn]

I usually stay near one

but doesnt mean they will heal me

sure, thats an idea

other than that, any advice

[fierce elm]

I mean

you cant run

dont get stuck in open places alone

And dont run into unfair fights that serve no purpose

[urban skiff]

20% of nothing is nothing. % is meaningless, absolute is all that matters.

[dense herald]

wdym nothing OF does most dmg in our burst

[urban skiff]

Who said OF?

[dense herald]

20% odyns fury damage is big

[urban skiff]

I spoke about troar

For the love of thane, don't make me do math again.

[marble bone]

You need a break after getting tattoed? 😂 two big sessions? Lucky enough to get the fever the day after aswell?

[fierce elm]

Went far up on hand/wrist

and its all black so my skin feels like its dying atm

[rancid granite]

so what it is of

[fierce elm]

also 2nd big piece ever

[rancid granite]

huge alliance tat?

[marble bone]

Ai, ye that hurts. Got to keep the wrist movement to the minimum the next two weeks

[fierce elm]

a huge fucking demon bat that goes from lil bit of hand all around my forearm to my elbow

lmao

7 hours each session

[marble bone]

No ruining the healing process! We see if you fucked it stright away 😉

[rancid granite]

demon bat // paladin main

👀

[fierce elm]

On top of two tattoos beneath it that we covered up lmao

[marble bone]

Fuck thats rough, good luck on the healing!

[rancid granite]

sounds cool though it must be epic given such long ass multiple sessions

[fierce elm]

Told my artist I am taking a break to fully heal the two weve done in 2 weeks before we even think about coverong upper arm/chest

[marble bone]

Numbing, or did you raw dog it?

[fierce elm]

raw dog

So beat the fuck up rn

[marble bone]

Ye, had people getting fever after long sessions

Calling in, afraid I almost killed them or some shit 😂 especially if they used numbing, then it all hits like a truck once it wears off

[fierce elm]

this was day one lmao

Doesnt really convey how big it is but its big

[dense herald]

any hunter spec good atm

[minor pilot]

Not really

[dense herald]

@wheat jay

[merry pelican]

Are Healers just scaled differently?

[wheat jay]

?

afaik all suck in pvp right now

b tier

maybe a tier

[dense herald]

A tier means good not that they suck

[wheat jay]

i said maybe

[urban skiff]

they're in a setting that has no dampening and they're built to sustain against raid bosses

battleground is literally where healers have the best conditions to go all out

1v2'd a rogue ret

prot's a joke

oh jeez, 1.7m on a plate

1.3m execute crits

[covert ledge]

Prot Colossus is the new arms

[dark topaz]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/world-of-warcraft-20th-anniversary-rewards-revealed-mounts-pets-toys-hd-armor-346429

Damn the sets are looking nice

[urban skiff]

Gladiator stance returns

[covert ledge]

That was 10 stacks?

[urban skiff]

Lol no

They had me on the ropes so i just popped off and hoped

Taunt demo troar avatar demolish with a random number of stacks. Might have been full for all i know

Just stacked all the damage modifiers ans even used leap for damage

[covert ledge]

Prot stacks much slower than arms

[urban skiff]

Depends on number and type of enemies. You can shieldslam indefinitely vs casters with the right pvp talent

[slender lion]

whats earthen looking like for pvp?

[urban skiff]

Earthen currently bugged. Its racial is worse than having no racial

[covert ledge]

Shit

[covert ledge]

Man, prot is looking fun

I don’t enjoy the fury playstyle

And arms deals no damage

[urban skiff]

I don't win all the time but i'm having fun and can see it doing fine in blitz

[slender lion]

oh really?

is gnome really the best race ?

[urban skiff]

Wait for earthen to get tuned tbh. No sense doing race swaps now if you have a better option in a week

[slender lion]

ill be leveling it tbh since its so quick. you reckon earthen will be good after the racial is sorted?

i had a maghar orc arms warr in DF

[urban skiff]

I think it's possible that it'll be ok. Would take something extraordinary to compete with shadowmelt and others

Style is superior so always pick what you love

[slender lion]

i have been a maghar orc in the clown tmog for so much time aha

cant beat schooling someone in pvp as a clown

soooooo yeah. 100% pvp mog

[cinder thorn]

do you guys wait for colossal stacks to reach 10 before you demolish or do you use demolish sooner

[warm pollen]

so dracthyr warriors will have both tail sweep and wing buffet on a 3 minute cooldown

is it OP or meh?

i think if they share a CD its fine but if you can use both its kinda sus

[wheat jay]

Im fairly sure you can use both

And yes, high chance everyone will play it

Including casters knocking you back and up even more than before

[rancid granite]

we'll have to wait before everyone swaps first

then nerfs will come 🙏

[chilly pivot]

Ive heard people talking about stacking honor/chests for season 1, what does it mean?

[fierce elm]

its for sockets

[chilly pivot]

yeah, kind of chests is it and how to get it?

[fierce elm]

you buy it at season 1 start with honor

[chilly pivot]

okey thnx 🙂

[wheat jay]

They should disable racials in pvp

Its dumb they still work there

[rancid granite]

I wouldn't mind that

[fierce elm]

can they give us kul tiran paladins first

[wheat jay]

Do I change my warr into kultiran?

[fierce elm]

no u are a cringe race optimizer

[wheat jay]

Dude

My warr is belf

How is that race optimising?

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge Having trouble with the furry warrior rotation, can you help plz?

[wary frigate]

is pres evoker difficult with a warrior + ranged dps because it spreads them and they have low healing range?

[copper fox]

That shouldnt be an issue

[thick reef]

is arms st ill cooked

is the pin still true

makes me so sad

[rancid granite]

nothin wrong with B tier

[wheat jay]

You aren't usually too far from your ranged dps, and pres can stand between you both

Pres also has infinite mobility lol

[rugged temple]

how long are WoW season's for?

like 6 months?

[lavish quest]

They are from when Blizz says till when blizz says no more

[fallen estuary]

prot bros

we're so back

[quartz jacinth]

What prot build you running in pvp?

[copper fox]

Damage looks mid tbh

[fallen estuary]

My own

[quartz jacinth]

you down to share? I wanna mess with prot pvp =)

[fallen estuary]

this is called the i smoke crack and want to kill someone really bad build

[loud void]

whats quickest way to Honor Farm atm? since bot bg gone 😦

[fallen estuary]

by killing a player

also yo mods

when can i be a mod

you made mud a mod and not me wtf 😡

[serene swallow]

only being new to this server. i think mud would be a better mod

just from what im seeing tho

[elfin surge]

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-gif-26132924

No dabdaddy love i got it

Its just cause im prot right?

[manic tendon]

so as far as bgs goes are we wanting to run arms, fury, or prot. Also after the nerfs is fury still pulling ahead of arms damage wise?

[fallen estuary]

Troar nerf isnt going to kill fury, fury is still going to be good

[manic tendon]

got it

[fallen estuary]

Troar is usually taken for the bleed buff

But for fury its meh

Taking spear might be better but 45 sec cd for roar is kinda still rlly good

Also its not joever for arms with roar youre still taking it arms bros

Were still feral druids

[manic tendon]

right cause more bleeds

[verbal tangle]

I mean that implies playing arms though

[fallen estuary]

Arms is insane rn

[manic tendon]

how is prot damage, cause i main prot in pve and im curious

[verbal tangle]

compared to Fury though?

[fallen estuary]

Like ppl playing fury cause of powerful enrage but im clocking in 1.5 mil ms crits by stacking crit n mast

[fallen estuary]

Fury and arms are basically the same teir rn, both use slayer tho

Im actually glad that warrior is finally viable now

And not a traning dummy

Or some free cr cause blizzard forgot to give us mobility after giving every other spec 12x more that what we got

Root root root snare snare snare

[manic tendon]

arms uses slayer as well?

[fallen estuary]

Yea

[manic tendon]

thought it was using colossus

[fallen estuary]

Both sudden death talents stacking and rock exe crits HOOOO

Crit chance stacking and you can literally 100-0 someone with a exe and a ms

[manic tendon]

ngl that sounds like fun

thought crit was bad atm

[fallen estuary]

Its still good but you gotta rock spear

[fallen estuary]

🤨

Have you checked slayers talents

[manic tendon]

so as far as stats for for arms its crit haste?

[fallen estuary]

And both trees

[manic tendon]

i have

[fallen estuary]

A ton of talents have crit damage modifiers for MS and base abilities

People are saying rock haste but i only got 10% haste with 20-20 mast crit

Im just chunking people left n right

And slayer exe build gives INSANE healing as well

3 slayer strikes 100% SD proc and it crits for 1.3 mil thats a ton of healing

[manic tendon]

ill give it a go sounds good

for prot pvp what stats would you go for as well?

[fallen estuary]

Same thing

Crit n mastery

[manic tendon]

huh

okay

thinkin im gonna drop fury lol

[fallen estuary]

You get 10% haste base basically for prot so youll have 20% haste as prot so haste doesnt matter

[manic tendon]

any place i can find a good talent tree for both?

[fallen estuary]

Since youre rocking collossus

[manic tendon]

right

[fallen estuary]

Arms you can search up my alt dabdaddyy

For prot scroll up i posted my current build

Just remember you take 180% more damage as a tank so youre not immortal btw

Its warrior hard mode

[haughty lance]

just gotta be 200% more badass and kill

[fallen estuary]

I found out a cheat code for a 1.5 mil shield slam wombo combo

[haughty lance]

been rocking prot in those npc bg's for a bit yesterday after seeing bahjeera try it. Is a lot of fun and definitly more fun when all the other warriors are running their mouths and get hardcore outdps'd (had like 200m dps at the end lol)

[fallen estuary]

And thats just 1 slam btw

[fallen estuary]

Yea playing aggro gets you insane dps but when in rated you gotta play obj

Youre hard locked into obj

Also nerf tf outta venge and bear

[queen peak]

So what gear distribution is that for slayer? Currently digging Colossus arms but I know demolish will be widely known soon and I likely won't land too many good hits anymore.

[manic tendon]

probably prio crit grab mastery when you cant

[wheat relic]

hello, need to buy pvp gear right now?

I new player)

[verbal tangle]

You don't need honor gear, but you will hate yourself if you don't have it trying to get conquest gear

[wheat relic]

ok, ty)

[heavy tendon]

Aight. I’m back from a day off. What’s the feeling on fury PvP with the tunings?

[queen peak]

God damnit. I play Arms and enjoy it, then I go back to Fury and fucking wreck everything in my path.

More engaging playstyle....or button mash and things boom?

🤔

[wise parcel]

Arms still trash?

[grand prism]

No I think we like arms again

I consider it like arms requires more thought and planning with your burst windows and fury is slap your face on the keyboard but there is a decent ceiling of using what little utility we have

I'm gonna try out arms rn actually. Sucks only having one big sword but the execute dam is worth it

[wise parcel]

Do you guys change your talents for 2v2 vs 3v3?

PvP talents

if you're against double melee in 2v2 do you take disarm

[lucid walrus]

depends what they are

[wise parcel]

windwalker

[lucid walrus]

not really worth

disarm doesn't do much to them and it does nothing to feral

[wise parcel]

can they still use kicks and fists of fury?

if i disarm them

[lucid walrus]

FOF, no

kicks yes

gotta disleg em for that

[spice hornet]

Windwalker so hard to kill as a warr lol

[wise parcel]

is this good for 2v2

[spice hornet]

Yes

[marble bone]

Too early in the morning for me, you made me spit my coffee out

A well placed mortal strike should be a decent disleg ability imo

Oh wait, hamstring is the obvious choice

[grand prism]

I typically use battle trance and battlefield commander vs monks

Late to see your your setup same as mine for most matchups in arena,

[spice hornet]

Someone want to explain why they removed the like 1 second root from piercing howl we have to talent howl and pick a PvP talent that buffs it

But I walked by a random frost mage orb and got rooted 3x in a row while the mage was attacking someone else across the map

Entire duration on each

[low cobalt]

@fallen estuary do you have an update build for your arms talent build? check pvp is saying you're taking ravager but that doesn't make sense cuz the slayer tree requires bladestorm

[umbral gate]

gamers is fury viable in pvp this xpac?

[wheat jay]

Possibly

Unless it gets nerfed

[fallen estuary]

Oh damn then take the build from my main the one without the extra y

[umbral gate]

What are the stats I want on pvp gear for fury?

[marble bone]

mastery

and haste on pieces you cant get mastery

[umbral gate]

and how about for arms pvp?

[fierce elm]

the same

[umbral gate]

tyvm

[rancid granite]

mastery and crit

[rancid granite]

or crit haste?

[fierce elm]

wtf

[rancid granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZhkSgq4jSM1

[fierce elm]

CRIT

[rancid granite]

listen

bigger muscles = bigger brain

[elfin surge]

https://youtu.be/R_6T3BX6hEY?si=X-V1pRIa8yUroM12

[copper fox]

All I read is “come watch sub 405 benching”

[wheat jay]

when are you doing stream with baj?

"bajheera teaching young aspiring warrior how to bench 100kg"

[elfin surge]

[rare oak]

Think drac warrior is gonna be good for pvp?

[cosmic yarrow]

Am I crazy or does fury feel kinda mid now? Feels like they die easier than any melee and the dmg is good but not broken now.

[urban skiff]

it's in your head

play thane to close your survivability gaps and your damage won't change much

[urban skiff]

yo why is bajheera struggling with benching 1 pl8 incline?

did he skip OHP day?

[fierce elm]

Old, lean as fuck, natural, jetlag, just having no energy, wanting to go for feel and control, pausing each rep, talking during it

[elfin surge]

blame your healer

[fierce elm]

there are like 500 different things lmao

Seemingly supersetting half the gym

[urban skiff]

how old is he?

[fierce elm]

34 lmao

sometimes ya just dont have energy

[cosmic yarrow]

I’m not really even talking from my perspective. Just from facing them and watching laros war game and stuff

[fierce elm]

Being that lean at 34 while natural has to hurt performance

not that it matters because he is alll about BBing anyways

[elfin surge]

I dont feel any different in damage since the nerfs

but yeah sometimes i die pretty quick

but its just to the same classes

ww and rogues seem to destroy fury

[cosmic yarrow]

And what do you know they are also the 2 most op melee. So you’re gonna see them a lot

[elfin surge]

fury is still s tier imo

just more in line with the other melee

[urban skiff]

I'm 38

[cosmic yarrow]

Ok. Good to hear

[fierce elm]

old

[urban skiff]

benching a bit more

[elfin surge]

but we'll see once season starts

kinda hard to rate the spec rn

[cosmic yarrow]

Yea for sure

[elfin surge]

or anything really

[urban skiff]

can't wait for blitz to come back

faction imbalance killing random bgs

[fickle forge]

I'm a Blitz and M+ gamer now

Arena is garbanzo

[urban skiff]

Arena is its own kind of fun

[fierce elm]

What desk do I need for blitz

[urban skiff]

arena and blitz are like drinking at home with a few friends and going to town at a bar

[fickle forge]

What hair colour does my gf need for arms TWW guys?

[fierce elm]

you dont have one

get fucked

[fickle forge]

Bro doesn't remember what his homies tell him

[fierce elm]

I do

[urban skiff]

red

the colour of self loathing

[fierce elm]

rainbow

[wheat jay]

Do you go for glad?

[fickle forge]

Rank 1 even

[wheat jay]

Redhead

Fuck it, go for blue or purple hair of its r1

Full psycho

[urban skiff]

forgot to ask the real question

Is she going to be on the arena team or not

[fierce elm]

hell no

[fickle forge]

No, she ain't

[fierce elm]

Hairy, burly men only

he has to hit 80 first though

[fickle forge]

Dw I'll get it done in season 2

Of Midnight

[urban skiff]

My wife is a rogue and a red head. Life is tough

[fierce elm]

you should leave

[wheat jay]

fuck rogues suddenly gets a deeper meaning

[urban skiff]

Just wish they would revamp the dr system to allow us to play more comps. Dr system is handicapping our creativity

[fierce elm]

remove DRs

[urban skiff]

Bring back 1 minute poly.

Man classic bgs were ruthless

[gusty zinc]

Most of you all still running with odens and roar?

[blazing lake]

defo

[jagged jacinth]

what are we sayin, fury still best melee in game rn>

[crystal laurel]

is there a way to make your ilvl 571 dungeon gear to turn into 626 for pvp ?

i have like no pvp gear right now and pvp feels bad with no honor gear, not sure whats the fastest way to get them

[rancid granite]

fastest way is to play

gear scales to like 600 anyway

just play a lot of pvp and get honor gear

[fickle forge]

Yeah this is the root of your issues
This is why you're a fury lover

[urban skiff]

Fury lover and now prot-curious

Bring back gladiator stance

[fickle forge]

Yeah it's over for this guy

This is @quasi lotus 2.0

[gusty zinc]

A few of the world quests have vers pieces that scale almost to honor gear pvp level. Rares drop them too

[elfin surge]

bg farming with a group of friends prob fastest. it will only take a few hours you can get it done in an afternoon

[errant roost]

guys i'm a bit new to pvp

why we lost the new flask of honor in pvp ?

shouldn't persist ?

[gusty zinc]

I used them a bunch last week and they always did?

[errant roost]

idk i'm losing the flask buff every arena or bg i do

[crystal laurel]

didnt know this, ill check it out

[crystal laurel]

i only know like 3 ppl that plays wow lol

[errant roost]

"skirmish remove the flask"

i have my answer

[gusty zinc]

Ahh, I was just grinding comp stomp with it

[fierce elm]

lmao

[elfin surge]

make friends (with healers)

[errant roost]

do you know why i can't queue in brawl ?

"join as group failed" but i'm alone?

[potent moon]

same issue i had, and last week had it too before they replaced the brawl with comp stomp

[worthy fern]

@errant roost they should last in bg but they don’t in arenas

[sharp meteor]

It's broken as always

they probs turn comp stomp back on

[crystal laurel]

626 is the highest pvp ilvl gear we can get right now correct ?

[worthy fern]

Yes

[urban skiff]

@elfin surge new pins when

[elfin surge]

what would you like pinned?

[urban skiff]

Something useful or something useless

If i had known it would be this easy i would have prepared something. I just crave change

[copper fox]

Pin this

[lavish quest]

Pin deez nuts

Did I get em?

[elfin surge]

SHUT UP

[rancid granite]

pin BAHJ's guides on fury and arms

[fierce elm]

you in a maid outfit

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cloud-strife-miss-cloud-ff7r-ff7r-mod-crossdressing-gif-24166886

^ MUD

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Not a fan of deez nuts jokes. Noted

[fierce elm]

why isn't bajheeras guide pinned

huh

[rancid granite]

guides plural

[sharp meteor]

God I wish

[fierce elm]

you dont need a guide for fury

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

God enchants are so expensive.

[fierce elm]

will drop on season release anyways

just dont look at it

[rancid granite]

the t1 t2 aint so bad

t3 is like 10x the price tho lol

[sharp meteor]

More like spike. 😵‍💫

[fierce elm]

naa trust

my dad works at blizzard

[sharp meteor]

It'll taper off as the weeks go by sure but good grief 40-80k for weapon and chest.

[crystal laurel]

rogue having 2 vanish now is insane lol

[open zephyr]

Anybody have a good resource for top arena comp projections in tww?

[fierce elm]

let me ask my magic 8 ball real quick

A few comps with either ranged or melee specs will be the top arena comp

[open zephyr]

Very cool thanks

[fierce elm]

I gotchu

[sharp meteor]

?

people only have an idea of what is good

as the season progresses

and stuff often isnt found until late seas

[marble bone]

Waait, how do you know?! Are you a witch?

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-witch-burnthewitch-gif-5477103

[wheat jay]

ye

burn the bitch

[urban skiff]

Actually this. Also make up bogus stat goals so people will just do that instead of incessantly ask about something with no perfect answer.

[rancid granite]

i mean they'll ask anyway

but you can just be like check pins

[urban skiff]

Ywah but we have the pin emoji for that

[rancid granite]

honestly just need one post "do this its the best"

'cause what they really want is to be told what the best is

then they'll be happy

[urban skiff]

Yep. Don't even have to be best.

[worthy fern]

I wonder if rmp will be good

[marble bone]

Yes tell me daddy, how can I be best? Do I stack vers for pvp??

[worthy fern]

Or ret war

[fierce elm]

not with ret in the dump

[worthy fern]

Or shadow play, mage lock, or ww mage

[fierce elm]

it might be WMP

or WMD

[worthy fern]

Ret never dumpy

[fierce elm]

oh its real dumpy rn

havent tested after they bugfixed half the spec though

[worthy fern]

Do you hit hard and have wings and hoj and sanc

[fierce elm]

we still cant use reckoning if we go into wake of ashes crusade proc

we dont hit hard anymore : (

[worthy fern]

Tsg with fist weaver might be nuts

With frost dk

[verbal tangle]

Ret is dumpy, they just have a bubble getting in the way of me instantly shitting on them

[worthy fern]

@fierce elm so ret actually plays no wings now?

Just the proc

[fierce elm]

Depends on build

with Templar we play regular wings

with Herald we play proc wings

[rancid granite]

whats best bubble hearth build

[copper fox]

KFC sleeper comp

S1

[fierce elm]

TSG is gonna be wild

WMX is gonna be wild

I got high hopes in Thunder too

[worthy fern]

Ww mage will be good

Thunder prob like average

[fierce elm]

cant wait for TSG with Presvoker

stomping the ladder

[worthy fern]

War prob better off with lock or mage

Ooo feral comps too

Feral is nasty rn

[fierce elm]

Kittycleave is hard to play

When TSG is just slam face into keyboard

[worthy fern]

…

[copper fox]

Kitty is a squishy comp

[fierce elm]

TSG with spear Fury cant wait

[worthy fern]

Assa unholy dk

Going to be farming also

[fierce elm]

I mean RMP is gonna cook

either way

Rogue = good, Frost = good, Priest = okay

[urban skiff]

enh fury prev gonna rock

[fierce elm]

enhancement kek

[urban skiff]

it's double storm

Like thane twice

[fierce elm]

this is a serious discussion smh

[wheat jay]

nah bro

[urban skiff]

all the lightning dam and enh brings massive buffs now with the new winfury buff + localized bloodlust

[wheat jay]

its always dogshit tier

at best

[worthy fern]

Enh like c tier now

[fierce elm]

enh is D-tier

[worthy fern]

Turbo stocks are not up

[fierce elm]

Turbo stocks are gone

[copper fox]

I’ll make you a bet I hit glad with kfc s1

[fierce elm]

hit r1

[copper fox]

I need red hair for that

[wheat jay]

ok i had glad with it too, doesnt matter

its not good

[worthy fern]

Mm is decent rn right

[copper fox]

Sounds good enough

[wheat jay]

every single comp is better, its comp for connoiseurs

men of culture

KFChads

[copper fox]

Ty for the compliment

[wheat jay]

lmao im complimenting myself

[worthy fern]

Last season I always liked shuffles with an sp on my mm

[copper fox]

🦅

You talk of culture - male troll warrior

That’s culture

[wheat jay]

my warr is male belf

tho ngl

i kinda wanna change all my characters to panda

[copper fox]

Thought about panda too but figured I take the attack speed while still being somewhat of a meme race to lose to

[pure hornet]

I am undead but allwayz thinking abut tauren

[copper fox]

Gnomes are whack I can’t bring myself to do it for the meta

[low cobalt]

what is the most anti-mage anti-slow anti-cc class

[pure hornet]

Yeah cant stand playing them

[low cobalt]

dk? dh?

[copper fox]

Gnome warriors irl

[pure hornet]

:))))

[low cobalt]

bro i literally see people like this walk in and out of taekwondo dojos wearing "black belts" 😂

its insane

[copper fox]

martial arts are p2w

[low cobalt]

sadly yea most are

[rancid granite]

imagine all the 'whats best' people playing meta spec and rolling gnome just to struggle for 1600

[fierce elm]

so like 99% of people who ask that

and thats why I dont entertain those questions

and make a sarcastic remark

[low cobalt]

will you answer this at least 🙏 #pvp message

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fierce elm]

If you are good enough you realize what the best things are

and that it doesn't matter in the end

[low cobalt]

im mostly asking for a different experience on some alts to mess around for fun not for rating

[lavish quest]

You're thinking of lumberjack cleave

[vagrant tangle]

what does anti-cc even mean

[lavish quest]

Also everyone in here thinking too hard. Just go in and do massive dam.

[low cobalt]

has most immunity to slows stuns fears etc or has abilities that supress their effects

[vagrant tangle]

been doing that for years,

[lavish quest]

[low cobalt]

i think its dk dh and maybe ret but i dont remember

[lavish quest]

How has it gone son?

[vagrant tangle]

permastuck Rival, twice Duelist, and proud of it 🫡

[lavish quest]

Do bigger dam, you'll get there son

[vagrant tangle]

roger

[vagrant tangle]

I'd say it's completely situational

the thing you're asking for doesn't really exist

[fierce elm]

I mean thats just flat out Ret lmao

[lavish quest]

Minimize the time you're chasing things as war is giga huge and affects the match more than wars. Just press buttons on faces a lot

[fierce elm]

three cc breaks for teammates, 3 for yourself, 1 slow immune that hits two people

but yeah do dam win games

[low cobalt]

🙏

[wise parcel]

Is there anyone here who does coaching?

[fierce elm]

you 500% dont need coaching

[low cobalt]

i think u can just post in pvp help review channel, just record some matches and post in there

[lavish quest]

Isn't ret wall 40% now with a talent? Are they impossible to kill now afro?

[fierce elm]

We dont run that talent lmao

but no, we are pretty killable

Herald gives us a ton of sustain

[wise parcel]

I play on a mac air and can't really record anything

[fierce elm]

I mean you probably don't need coaching

99.999999% of the information is out there

[low cobalt]

use boyfriends phone to record screen while you play

[fierce elm]

and that last 0.0000001% is playing games

[lavish quest]

How do you not run that talent? It sounds insane?

[vagrant tangle]

need a roflstomp class for casual pvp that isn't trash, no fury, no devoker, go

[wise parcel]

I'll just have your girlfriend record it

[fierce elm]

Its still nerfed in pvp I think

nobody is taking it

[low cobalt]

😂

so thats where shes at all day

[fierce elm]

bro idk I just copy builds lmao

we do lose Shield of vengeance for it

[copper fox]

Mac literally has build in recording

lol

[fierce elm]

might be too demanding

while playing

[copper fox]

Maybe

[low cobalt]

yea i think he means it lags etc.

[copper fox]

I don’t make the rules man

[urban skiff]

borrow mine, she has a hunter

[urban skiff]

the people who benefit know the answer

the people who ask are the ones who can't make use of the difference

[vagrant tangle]

oof

[urban skiff]

pin this

someone's going to ask

[fierce elm]

dont pin that

[worthy fern]

That’s good

Maybe will increase participation

[lavish quest]

Just the fact that, that's a cop

Wep illusion is free now? :o