pvp

[wheat jay]

Whole myth of rogue being hard is some mad cap from tbc or wotlk when they were current expansions

[robust cloak]

real

[lavish quest]

It's hard being over kitted

[amber heron]

I mean its just weird how some melee have no counters at all, but warriors get countred by mage. its like a classic era counter that has never gone away but other melee and and rages have tools to fuck over every other class

so weird.

[wheat jay]

Dh gets countered by rogue, big time

Mage gets shredded by mm hunter

Ele sham is weak into double dispel priest

Mm gets countered by warrior quite a lot

I don't think other casters have any counters that just make their matchup one-sided in any way

[lavish quest]

Warrior counters afk players

[rugged temple]

anyone going to level in the war within in full PVP gear and warmode on?

[wheat jay]

Yes

As always

Warmode

[rancid granite]

thats the only way to do it it's so fun

[wheat jay]

With my friend playing either feral or resto

Kill on sight anything that's not my faction

[rancid granite]

hate your type tho

running with a posse cause too weak to do it solo

big man lil weenie

running into other faction, both busy questing, giving the /nod or helping is just peak WoW

or having the ability to fight for w/e reason

i dont attack unless im attacked first then its go time

[wheat jay]

Ever saw a big leveling group?

Then you jump on them

Massacre everything in sight

[violet fossil]

turn around the 2v1

[rancid granite]

it happens

depends how busy questing i am and the mood

lmao

i am curious how it'll play out though cause of the early access

[cinder thorn]

Early accesss is a dick move

[rancid granite]

i imagine the main sweat will be 80 or w/e in a day and on real release it'll be chill

[cinder thorn]

Yeah there will be level 80s for majority of players it ruins the race

Because they let people with £££ in first

Thats why its dumb to race

Just play your own pace and for enjoyment

If you wanna gank go for it

You wanna team up go for it

If people can't handle it they can just turn war mode off

In the past you had to change servers at least now you can just turn it off

[rancid granite]

i appreciate they gave us a buff for war mode on at least

[violet fossil]

most people leave you alone cause they’re trying to level anyway

[cinder thorn]

Does the buff work if you have it an enter bg or dungeons? Or only for world quests

[violet fossil]

Only outdoor

[cinder thorn]

Thx

[sharp meteor]

Honestly most pvpers.

Who just do wpvp/bgs.

Although I think (and hope?) a lot of them will try Blitz.

[boreal veldt]

excited for starting zone to be covered by max level bois who bought early access

yay war mode

[rancid granite]

aint no way they'll bother

... some will tho

[boreal veldt]

it'll only take 1

[dense herald]

They prob did that to reduce the load on servers by having ppl go early and some extra money

[amber heron]

Anyone who thinks that mages r fine and the interaction they have with any warrior spec is wrong and needs to check into a mental hospital/did not pass high school/or their brain is not working properly

the gameplay and movement required to use your rotation is not smooth at all

[elfin surge]

[amber heron]

its not even based

any one with common sense knows can make this conclusion after playing 1 or maybe 2 shiuffle games vs a mage

@elfin surge should I just reroll Bm hunter?

and be as toxic as possible to every mage i see

dedicate myself to becomeing a r1 bm hunter like bicmex or

are there any r1 bm hunters?

Noske ?

[elfin surge]

bm hunter is cringe

play arms win against all odds and emote the enemy

[amber heron]

I atually dont know 1 single bm hunter that dedicates to the spec

@elfin surge thats great and all but u play 3v3 with ur friends on discord with full communication and have a great healer to dispell ur roots and set up cc

and most of the time u prob dont even train the mage

[elfin surge]

no friends?

[finite fox]

Ye I was really thinking of fw but they look like their in shambles right now so I was worried

[amber heron]

just play with a evoker

[spice hornet]

Have you tried making friends in this mmo here

[amber heron]

I dont have the tiem to push glad w people

in law school

@spice hornet

every time im on break i could do it so its. abad sexcuse but people like to no life the game consitently

and push every season etc

[spice hornet]

🤔

[hearty vault]

hello! is warrior useless without a healer in TWW lvl 80? 1v1 or BG

I see that this selfhealing nerf in pvp is a disaster right now (pre-patch)

[cinder thorn]

Yes warrior is not a 1v1 king

Ideally you want a healer

[urban skiff]

I don't know if they changed anything but last I saw mystikal stream fistweaver pvp he was laughing at how strong he was

[hearty vault]

yes, seems that our defensives are so bad in TWW. Another DPS destroy us easy

[urban skiff]

just don't play 1v1, ez

[hearty vault]

It's the only thing I do in the game when I have time to play... BGs, random pvp with friends who dont play healer always.

[urban skiff]

Get in the habit of finding the healers and follow them around

if you're going to play warrior at least

[hearty vault]

as I said, not time and only play with friends :S

[urban skiff]

guess you're stuck with rogue, hunter, or paladin then

[hearty vault]

I see that all dps has their own "inmunity defensive time" and all new talents are about do more dps. I think it will be a pain for a main warrior without healer in pvp... that include in new "random RBG pvp mode" out of teamfigth.

[urban skiff]

they don't all have that

DK, balance, evoker, ww, warlock, warrior don't have immunity based defensives

[hearty vault]

DK has against casters, WW has karma, And caster who u called are always op in RBG.

And druid has disarm, its a inmunity time against us 😆

But it's not about inmunity skill, its about selfsustain, which got a big nerf this exp to warriors

[rapid rose]

dont think druid has disarm anymore

unless im mistaken

warriors have always been the class that is weak without healer and op with one; nothing different there

[kind sentinel]

Balance does

But they are also going through a midlife crisis rn so i dont think you'l have to worry about them for a while

[cinder thorn]

I love killing balance noobs in bgs

They just want big numbers by taking a walk around with 10000km aura

[sharp meteor]

they do it can just be dispelled

ww one is weird and has travel time so can bladestorm it

[next herald]

Evoker has its golden time Stop

Or its Green blossom Thing

[urban skiff]

Then you've got immunity as well in spell reflect, bladestorm, and die by the sword.

Nothing to worry about then

[lavish quest]

Not how that one works bob.

[urban skiff]

If he can define disarm as an immunity then everything goes

Cyclone is a 50% immunity!
100% vs one + 0% vs another = avg 50%
Rules are dead. Everything is immunity!

[lavish quest]

He said against warrior. As a joke. Cause we can't do anything when disarmed so might as well be immune to warrior 🙃

[urban skiff]

You can shockwave, intimate shout, thunderclap while disarmed

Hardly an immunity when those of us playing thane can clap clap clap away

[lavish quest]

You can't kill things.

[fierce elm]

apply bleeds before disarm

exactly

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[fierce elm]

nerd

[lavish quest]

Bop is considered an immunity. Yet you can magic through it. Or magic CC it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1260831993214795827.gif?quality=lossless&name=feedback&size=48

[fickle forge]

Parry should make you parry spells too

[lavish quest]

💯

[hot solstice]

one of the rogues hero specs makes target not be able to parry rogue for 10 sec every 20 sec

[rancid granite]

faze

[fickle forge]

They could cheap shot through it anyway

[lavish quest]

We're all fury mains now anyways

[elfin surge]

yeah fury mains

[rancid granite]

less brain, more big weapon 🐒

[urban skiff]

Zugzug

[rancid granite]

the zugzug mentality seems to be working with healer too

just zugzug heals

[elfin sinew]

Anyone not jumping fury bandwagon? Is the present pvp gap this big in current beta build?

[elfin surge]

good players play both specs

main arms alt fury

rn its a fury angle

the gap seems pretty large between arms and fury

[elfin sinew]

edge, not the gap?

ah.. shame

[elfin surge]

arms isnt rly bad

but fury is insane

[elfin sinew]

MT?

or slayer?

[elfin surge]

slayer

[elfin sinew]

for me it's fun (arms) vs fury (meta necessity) haha

I don't know, I don't want to be a meta slave

[elfin surge]

I think most warriors would like to play arms in pvp over fury

[elfin sinew]

100 %

[elfin surge]

but blizzard keeps nerfing arms and buffing fury

[lavish quest]

Just unga bunga

[rancid granite]

seems the majority of the players are just overwhelmed with tier lists and ThE mEtA and WhAtS ThE beSt

[elfin surge]

arms cleave seems as insane as it was in DF but teams dont usually triple stack all game

[elfin sinew]

Not, don't get me wrong

[rancid granite]

arms is fun fury is fun you can literally switch specs in like 2 seconds

[elfin surge]

single target seems bad on arms

[lavish quest]

This is nothing new nerd. Get with the times

[rancid granite]

yeah it seems like players just ruin their own fun by being so hell bent on it lol

like relax and just play bro

[elfin surge]

who really knows whats good cuz beta is played with full geared characters

we wont be full geared and tuning is coming

maybe fury sucks with no gear who really knows

[lavish quest]

Didn't they just make arms a lot slower? Like don't we have to press slam now
🤮

[elfin surge]

play what you like is what i always say

[rancid granite]

depends what you consider suck too

some people think A tier is unplayable

[rancid granite]

slam is so fetch

its never gonna happen

[elfin surge]

they need to unnerf avatar and csmash

unnerf martial prowess and EP

[fierce elm]

aint no way

[elfin surge]

slightly

[fierce elm]

not like we get that question DAILY here

oh my god guys how good is arms in tww s2

[rancid granite]

WhAtS tHe BeSt

[fierce elm]

whats the best gaming chair for being a 1200 rated warrior

ih my god is warrior bad I got dumpstered in a bgb

[elfin surge]

theres a lot of people who dont actually have a main and just reroll whatevers fotm

[fierce elm]

Yeah and they are 99% below 2k

[elfin surge]

kinda lame and not good for getting better

[lavish quest]

If I press MS on a mage that mage should be DC'd and blizzard deletes the character.

[fierce elm]

Anyways what bodypart or lift you hitting in the gym fuck this wow discussion

[rancid granite]

WhAtS ThE bEst i dont want to play i just want to win

[elfin surge]

every charge has a chance to dc me with how many roots mages have its only fair my ms should dc him too

[lavish quest]

Artji?

He doesn't pop up when I try to @ him but w/e

[elfin surge]

i love charge dc

[lavish quest]

He lurks, he'll see

[elfin surge]

@wheat jay

[lavish quest]

I once lost a solo shuffle because a priest MC'd me through the floor of blades edge

Good times

Couldn't log in cause I would still be falling through world and DC'd again

[elfin surge]

we can buy honor gear before the ssn starts right

god i hope so

[fierce elm]

Yes

Honor cap is 5k until early access is over iirc

For you guys who are whales

[elfin surge]

sorry i dont speak poor

[lavish quest]

Lmao, this early access thing is so scuffed

But my cuz gifted it to me, so guess I'm just rollin with it

[rancid granite]

i just hope its 3 days of technical issues they can fix before normal players log in

[lavish quest]

Blizz would burn

And all the promo material says at least 3 days of early access. So they'd prob have to delay actual release

Cause legal

[fierce elm]

kek

Yeah totally

They would for sure do that blizzard always makes up for their fuck ups

oh wait

[lavish quest]

Well... I mean... like... literal legal implications.

Here in freedom land

[fierce elm]

Yeah TOTALLY

[rancid granite]

someone didnt read the fine print

[wheat jay]

Hmm?

Sup

[lavish quest]

Read above it nerd

[elfin surge]

Read above it nerd

[wheat jay]

I roll for fun

And I wasn't too keen on playing lumberjack cleave

So I made survi

[fierce elm]

lmao

[wheat jay]

And I ended up playing one of the worst fucking comps in 3s xD

[fickle forge]

"I don't get why people dislike 2s, I think it's chill" - surv+Rdruid gamer in SL

[dense herald]

its fun when the hunter just traps my healer and im just dead after like 3-4 traps

[wheat jay]

Lmao real

I struggled hard tho, zero pvp knowledge and I played into fuckign r1s xD

[lavish quest]

Still playing s tier... smh

[hearty vault]

Tier S, A or B . I think it It depends greatly on the dps of the spec and dps changes every weeks (blizzard % nerfs). Fury could be Tier S cause of his dps, but without a healer in RBG (new mode), random pvp or 1v1 moments, almost all classes could destroy warriors easy cause of his defensives against us.
All new things on DPS classes are about do more dmg, but not about mechanics to survive and it's a problem to play alone with warrior as it was in Legion...
Sorry for my english XD

[fierce elm]

can someone decipher this

no no, your english is fine im taking the piss

It's just that generally when we talk about Tiers in pvp we usually specifically say x gamemode

[hearty vault]

u are right, I am talking about BGs, RBGs (new mode) or random pvp, 1v1 moments...

[fierce elm]

I don't think warrior will ever be S-tier in any content outside of 3v3 and 2v2 when it comes to PvP

just due to how the spec works

even if you duo with a healer for BGB you will not be as good as other specs

thats just the warrior life

[hearty vault]

Yes, it's cause I am afraid about new RBG, where no one want to play with a warrior out of teamfigth

[fierce elm]

thats the neat part about not having to join and RBG group

they are forced with you against their will

[rancid granite]

afro what's up with your goatse pfp

lmao...

[fierce elm]

Its my album of the month

[fickle forge]

Idk what bro just said

[fierce elm]

He is just saying what tiers mean

[rancid granite]

tldr he's saying don't worry about tier ranks and just play and win anyway it's all circumstancial

[fierce elm]

yeah

[hearty vault]

exactly, less when u play without a healer as warrior

[fickle forge]

Is bro arguing that tiers don't matter because world PvP exists though

[rancid granite]

WoW just real easy to try things out anyway a lot of people just hate making their own opinions

[fierce elm]

are you dumb

[fickle forge]

Am I reading it wrong man?

[fierce elm]

yes you are lmao

Aatos literally explained it

[fickle forge]

"Fury could be Tier S cause of his dps, but without a healer in RBG (new mode), random pvp or 1v1 moments, almost all classes could destroy warriors easy cause of his defensives against us."

[fierce elm]

"Don't worry about it"

was the TL:DR

[fickle forge]

That ain't what it says

You dumbo

[fierce elm]

He literally said that is what he meant

danish fuck

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fickle forge]

Nah you're definitely gaslighting right now

That's not what it says at all

[fierce elm]

Oh my LORD

My guy is acting like everyone can perfectly explain their thoughts

[urban skiff]

Find and follow the healers around in battlegrounds if you're going to play warrior in bgs

[hearty vault]

Chill guys please, it's my fault

[urban skiff]

ayyyyy

[fierce elm]

we interact like this every day

nobody is upset

[fickle forge]

No hard feelings

[fickle forge]

Except towards Afro

[fierce elm]

this is just our two neurons firing

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

[fickle forge]

He's Swede

[hearty vault]

ok ok haha

[urban skiff]

I'm sure he can't help the circumstances of his "birth"

[fierce elm]

Kargish and me hate each other so much we play 3s together

its a wack relationship

[hearty vault]

not fun T_T

[hearty vault]

😆

[wheat jay]

you both are mad dysfunctional lmao

[wheat jay]

reroll

[hearty vault]

what do you think about Bloodthirst could do heal effects when it cant do damage? cause of dodge or inmunity, like impending victory works. It could solve problems as fury I think :S

[urban skiff]

It's literally just joining the team fight and playing for objectives

like the most fun parts of bgs

[wheat jay]

as warrior you'll most likely be the shot caller

if blitz is any similar to rated bgs

[hearty vault]

it's the problem, this role (shot caller) wont exist in random PvP or new RBG solo que.

[wheat jay]

probably won't

so youi just do dmg

press sharpen on low hp target

done

if fury is better

then you do dmg

done

if you want some specific role and not just dmg, thats healer, and rogue

[urban skiff]

shot calling RBGs is probably the most fun I had through all of shadowlands

[wheat jay]

ngl it was mad fun for me too

and my guildie was a good dk so i was calling his grips too

[urban skiff]

dude, just macro /ping attack with your sharpen blade mortal strike macro

BAM shotcalled

[hearty vault]

While all DPS classes can do things out of teamfigth (without healer). Pain T_T

[wheat jay]

lmao not rly

every dps flops without healer

against dps+healer

or two dps

[urban skiff]

Like this
#showtooltip
/use sharpen blade
/use mortal strike
/ping [harm,nodead] attack

[wheat jay]

no dps can ever live a 2v1 unless the two people doing the gank are idiots

[urban skiff]

there you go, called the shot and people will focus the shit out of easy kills

[hearty vault]

yes yes, u are right. I mean, u know, when its 2 dps vs 2 dps, 1 vs 1 moments to get flag, or something like that.

[wheat jay]

then there isn't rly a good scenario

all depends on personal skill

getting flag 1v1 you wont rly be going for it cuz your walls suck, and rogues do better burst to get flag back

[hearty vault]

solo que RBG and random BGs...

You are right about warrior "unique roll", I should reroll class. But it's a pain after so much years with same character

[hearty vault]

What do u think about that idea? too much?

[fair surge]

Hey all, im a newb in this discord, I played first season of df and want to return but as Fury. Is there any proper guides to read/watch to get back into stuff? Magnusz' one is a bit all over the place tbh but that will be what i watch if people dont have anything to recommend

[fierce elm]

wait until TWW gets released

and there will be 40000 guides out

[hearty vault]

yes and changes, I hope

[fierce elm]

for now just copy someone off murlok.io

[fair surge]

👍 thanks 🙂

[rancid granite]

watch some bahjeera's youtube too

[fair surge]

will check it out thx 🙂 i got my macro game from him at df

[verbal tangle]

I'm half convinced he is the reason some warriors end up buff as fuck

[rancid granite]

lmao it's a good role model to have for sure

[verbal tangle]

I'm mean it can't be Swifty, I still have my pinkies

[fierce elm]

why are there TWO BUHSACS

[verbal tangle]

My old account got smacked

Hence "Punished"

[fierce elm]

lmao fucking rolled

[verbal tangle]

No that was the Bong govt lmao

[elfin surge]

@last spindle is the best. He always has such a good vibes and makes really helpful content, def helped me so much in DF!

[fierce elm]

@elfin surge is the worst. He always has such a shit vibe and makes really deranged content, def worsened my quality of life so much since Legion!

fucks a streamer role

becuase he isn't active here and is a PvP streamer

and probably hasnt asked

[elfin surge]

what other r1s are in here

mag isnt

smexxin isnt

[fierce elm]

mag was here

then he left because he got bullied

[elfin surge]

wait lmao

[wheat jay]

Problem with streamers is that most have negative mental

Say one thing and they mentally collapse, or if their class gets changed in a way they dont like, look bicmex

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

mud is unbrekable

can bully him forever

and he still stands

[lavish quest]

MUD naturally avoids this conundrum by not streaming so he can't be counted as a streamer.

Technicalities 👌

[urban skiff]

It's what their audience finds entertaining.

Whenever a streamer gets flanderized you blame the shit out of their viewers, not the streamer

[boreal veldt]

i'm starting to see ttv in people's toon names, is this reportable?

Asking for a friend

and myself

[cinder thorn]

Anyone got advice for us to consistently kill a DH besides using your stuns

I struggle against them

[tribal wedge]

in what situation? 2s 3s shuffle duel?

[lavish quest]

😂

[cinder thorn]

All situations

[lavish quest]

And pretty sure the answer is no

[cinder thorn]

They have so much avoidance

It's either dodge or immune or miss if they rotate their dcd properly

[tribal wedge]

basicaly, out damage them, find cleave situation, swap a lot to maximise dps that's how

[tribal wedge]

swap when they pop their things

[cinder thorn]

Of course I already do that

Anything else

I try to stun them when they activate the dodge dcd so they can't dodge

But the immune and miss one I can't do anything about

Then when they out of dcd they run away

[tribal wedge]

if they run away from you without damaging any thing it's a win situation for you (except in duel, but in duel you are screwd anyway)

[hot solstice]

Its better to simply swap, stun into blur is only good if u sure u can kill him or force trinket or his healer cds... otherwise just change target, cause even though they cant dodge, blur still gives them damage reduction

[boreal veldt]

[cinder thorn]

OK thx

[hot solstice]

if its retail dont care much cause armor bugged anyway

[cinder thorn]

Yes I only play retail

[lavish quest]

They are a protected class thank you

[eager lake]

how is warr looking in tww? especially in 2s and SS?

[rancid granite]

looks fun

[hazy isle]

"Lord SeifCham"

[rancid granite]

mountain thane god

[cinder thorn]

No

[zinc crow]

What is a good resource for current PvP builds?

[sharp meteor]

play and try stuff

then look up top 5ish players

and try what they're trying

[cinder thorn]

What the fuck they turned off rated pvp

Solo queue, blitz all turned off

What do they gain by doing this

[hearty vault]

avoid weekly cap/rewards? new exp..., don't know

[cinder thorn]

PVE rewards don't stop though?

Are they gonna turn off raids and dungeons too?

[hearty vault]

No idea, u are right but PvP and Blizzard...

[urban skiff]

Do I really have to explain that to you?

[cinder thorn]

Go on

[urban skiff]

With today's reset the game has shifted into TWW for the final steps

In less than 48 hours players will be entering TWW for real.

They don't need legacy ratings or mmr to maybe misbehave in the code when that happens. Better to just lock stuff down.

[cinder thorn]

Aren't they going to do a reset just before release or is this last one

[urban skiff]

There are no more resets before we can play

[cinder thorn]

Sadje

The quality of pvp in normal bgs is trash

It's either people in greens or premades

[urban skiff]

take the time to relax and recharge

fix up the bars on your remix toons

[cinder thorn]

I didn't play remix because it did not have pvp

I'm a pvp freak

I'll go sleep now, when I wake up ill make a premade and rampage through normal bgs

[spark turtle]

So for arms I'm thinking colossus for rbgs. Would I be wrong? Plus if I change to drac I'd have a bigger dragon form 😁

[fickle forge]

No and no

[worthy fern]

Is Drac available yet

For war

[desert barn]

have we had an official statement on if honour will reset I assume it will it's not like I've been capped for like 3 months and got a ton of those tokens on some alt somewhere xD
But would be cool to get straight to the meat of it

[desert barn]

no mid xpac they said having 2 extra forms of cc is gonna be a whole thing xD

[spark turtle]

All pvp currency resets for early access and honor caps at 4k until launch day

[desert barn]

where did you see the thing about a cap I haven't seen that

[spark turtle]

In a wowhead article

[desert barn]

Like I believe you seems like a random thing to make up ya know

just like to get me peepers on stuff

[spark turtle]

Let me get u a link

[desert barn]

thanks man

[spark turtle]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-currency-changes-and-dates/1918566

[desert barn]

thanks brother

[spark turtle]

Np

[spark turtle]

Not sure where you're going with this

[desert barn]

well provided they haven't decided to ramp the prices (haven't seen prices yet) atleast going full green will be doable still even with a cap

[spark turtle]

I don't know what prices of gear will be

[desert barn]

shame, oh well surprise time it is

[spark turtle]

I'd guess max 3 pieces with 4k

[fierce elm]

They have not increased prices of gear

[spark turtle]

So what is it 11k for full set?

[fierce elm]

I dont know the exact price

but its the same as it is now

[spark turtle]

K

[fierce elm]

So yeah, earn 5k honor then do something else

[spark turtle]

I'll prob go weap/trinks before gear

[rancid granite]

I still cant get over your pfp afro

[fierce elm]

I mean you are gonna be full honor gear before the season starts regardless

[spark turtle]

Yeah

[fierce elm]

You always start with two trinkets then wep either way lmao

[spark turtle]

And full delves/norm gear for launch lol

[fierce elm]

for honor

[spark turtle]

I haven't pvpd since SL s1

Lol

[fierce elm]

I cant decide what to level

its ret/warr/feral rn

[fickle forge]

No that you think you're wrong and no to going the lizard race

[spark turtle]

Glide + cc racials wouldn't be good?

[fickle forge]

They would

But you're a lizard

So you lose there by default

[spark turtle]

I happen to love dragons

[fickle forge]

-1000 aura

Aesthetics in F tier

[spark turtle]

Female visage form is amazing

[fickle forge]

You can't fight in visage though

[spark turtle]

Yes u can

[fickle forge]

Ah, changed then I guess

Still an L for being a lizard

[spark turtle]

Only evokers change

[elfin surge]

i love slaying them

[spark turtle]

In a group Interview with Ion Hazzikostas, he confirmed there are plans to expand the Classes a Dracthyr can be in the War Within.

No timeframe was given but it's likely near the start of the Expansion. He also said that you'll be able to stay in Visage form in combat while playing the new classes

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-gif-4563712

[spark turtle]

Lol

[lavish quest]

[spark turtle]

I can always troll ppl with a colossus gnome queen

[lavish quest]

🤮

[spark turtle]

🤣

[elfin surge]

[spark turtle]

If they change the racials when releasing the classes for drac I'd go earthen though

Already got plans to wear ice armor and be stone cold Steve Austin

[elfin surge]

orc is the only real race for warrior

[spark turtle]

That's nice

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

I will be returning to orc this expac

From human male

[elfin surge]

[spark turtle]

My guilds are ally so I wanna be able to do content with them

[elfin surge]

welcome back

[lavish quest]

I will have orc war and monk. Possibly DK too.
Then Tauren paladin

[elfin surge]

cant u do everything cross faction now anyways

[spark turtle]

AFAIK there's still phasing for outside world

[lavish quest]

Still can't queue random dungeons or stuff like that

Not sure how cross faction warmode works. Probably just doesn't.

They should make a warmode mercenary mode.

[spark turtle]

Idk wm is it's own phase

[lavish quest]

Ye, but I if on horde, group with an ally, who we killing?

[spark turtle]

Everyone not in your group

[lavish quest]

Your fellows of the same faction are not enemies in wm

[spark turtle]

Should be!

Ffa

[elfin surge]

we're about to get a lot of new chatters here soon with how many tier lists post fury as GODLIKE S TIER OP

[lavish quest]

Yes. So where's our fury guide mud?

Where's the egirl guides?

[elfin surge]

I'll make them dont worry

[lavish quest]

Knew you'd be on top of your egirl game

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

"Hey guys should I use 2h or 1h as fury warr? 🤓"

[elfin surge]

2h and shield

[fickle forge]

Oh thanks bro, I saw a macro here the other day that went

/cast Rampage
/cast Ignore Pain

But the second part doesn't seem to do anything? He said it was OP in shadowlands

[river walrus]

https://youtu.be/q3OvjlatzHE?si=65xQRDOzu1KQX6ye

[lavish quest]

1 handers. Move speed best stat

[cinder thorn]

Since they turned off rated

Anyone wanna make a group of warriors and stomp normal bgs?

[elfin surge]

flarkness

[urban skiff]

Can't wait for the nerfs so i can go back to being the dumb underdog for playing fury.

I suspect we're already seeing an influx of rerollers who thinks fury gets to stay stronk

[elfin surge]

if they nerf fury they better buff arms

[urban skiff]

Sure, i'm ok with that

[urban skiff]

Arms is powerlifter
Fury is strongman

[elfin surge]

ok good ill let the devs know youre okay with it

[urban skiff]

Agi classes are crossfitters
Wizards are d&d nerds
Ret is bodybuilder
Dk is the guy training in his back yard using home made rusty equipment

[lavish quest]

Nope. We'll all be DK mains then

[fierce elm]

its joever

I couldn't hold myself

[elfin sinew]

orc for life

I didn't even try to hold off

weekend of gaming

instead of week time of no gaming

[rancid granite]

whats it like being RICH

[lavish quest]

Man's rollin in it

[elfin surge]

i took friday off im going to game so hard this weekend

[spark turtle]

Saaaame

[lavish quest]

My normal schedule lines up. Today is my Friday 😎

[spark turtle]

So I'm trying to get a bunch of ppl that hit 80 this weekend to do mythic amir lol

[desert barn]

don't you're gonna set off some smf nut jobs, me I'm the nut job

[elfin surge]

smf will never be good quit trying and quit believing

[lavish quest]

You know if they do that they'll just convert to prot right?

[elfin surge]

[desert barn]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[lavish quest]

SL release I had covid so I did 50-60 in one go on that night
☠️

[spark turtle]

Is there a leveling addon for tww? I remember autopilot or something for old ones

Also have you seen the general beta leveling timeframe?

[fickle forge]

Have ya'll tried just sitting down and enjoying the game slowly while the season isn't active

[fierce elm]

PLAY TYHE GAME FAST

GOTTA REACH END GAME

RIGHT NOW

[spark turtle]

Yes.... at max level

[fierce elm]

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO DO AT MAX LEVEL

[spark turtle]

I hate leveling

[fierce elm]

TRULY

[rancid granite]

stare at minimap, follow gold dot

[spark turtle]

The faster I hit 80 the faster I can do mythic awakened and smash buttons

[lavish quest]

Yes.
I call it pick up quest, kill mobs, turn in quest, repeat

[lavish quest]

What are you? Some casual?

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-meme-radar-gif-26497624

[spark turtle]

I'm def casual and I still don't like wasting time leveling lol

[fierce elm]

Kargish is the biggest casual

he is hesitating my feral ability

[rancid granite]

whats the best way to play tww?

whats the best way to level?

[fierce elm]

Naked

[rancid granite]

whats the best way to have fun?

[fickle forge]

MUST REACH MAX LEVEL RIGHT NOW

I WANNA SIT AND WAIT FASTER FOR THE SEASON

[fierce elm]

Cant wait to play Ret/Arms

[rancid granite]

whats the best way to play a video game?

[fierce elm]

Or feral/arms

d-tier specs : (

tier lists matter

[spark turtle]

When I can't play every day, yes I wanna prep everything on the days I can play so I don't fall behind

[rancid granite]

the illusion of falling behind and in modern WoW

[fierce elm]

what would you fall behind on

you have a month to get honor gear

and pve gear

[fickle forge]

MUST REACH MAX LEVEL NOW

[fierce elm]

lmao

[rancid granite]

thats how they getcha to pay $40 for 3 day advance

GOTTEMS

[fierce elm]

I mean I needed gametime anyways

[fickle forge]

I CAN'T MISS OUT ON 0.02 ILVL ELSE I'LL NEVER GET ABOVE RIVAL

[spark turtle]

It's not about ilvl

[lavish quest]

Nah, then you do it agane

[fickle forge]

MUST STACK CONSUMS

[fierce elm]

this aint legion baby

where you gotta farm artifact power 24/7

[fickle forge]

MUST GET ALL PROFESSIONS MAXED BEFORE SEASON START

[lavish quest]

[cinder thorn]

lol

[fickle forge]

GET ALL 12 CLASSES READY FOR SEASON START, ELSE THEY'LL FALL BEHIND

[fierce elm]

I need my specs ready for fotm rerolling

[lavish quest]

Exactly. How will you fotm reoll if you don't have em leveled?

Artji about to go hard af

[fierce elm]

artji is a pve andy now

[fickle forge]

Gotta prepare all 72 specs for in case they become meta

[fierce elm]

I should grab my last 5 dk levels

tbh

then I can decide between 3 specs

[fickle forge]

UDK is apparently still looking strong

[fierce elm]

I mean its level 65

its not hard to get those last 5 levels lmao

Ret does feel kinda nice rn

[fickle forge]

Feral hero talents look mad boring though

[fierce elm]

it plays fun

idk what hero talents they have kek

I havent read jack shit

[fickle forge]

It's boring lmao

[fierce elm]

Ima hit 2400 in solo shuffle regardless of tier spec

because I am a chad

[fickle forge]

One of them is to just turn your bite into an AoE bite via a proc

[fierce elm]

eh

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's basically it

Lmao

Same ability, but now it's AoE

[fierce elm]

I mean its good : )

[fickle forge]

The other one is to just make your DoTs sometimes apply another DoT

Like sick man 😎

[fierce elm]

I have read the paladin ones so much

I still have no idea what they do

[fickle forge]

Templar ret looks fun

[elfin surge]

TSG HYPE

❤️

[lavish quest]

👆 🤓

Wrong warrior

[ivory anchor]

You're right. I'm one of them hehe

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Never thought I'd see the day... warrior fotm rerollers. Brings a tear to my eye...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1260831970351517787.gif?quality=lossless&name=tierlist&size=48

[fierce elm]

happens every season warrior is good lmao

[lavish quest]

Seasons where warriors are good?

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-where-why-how-gif-11254825541557537884

😉

[fierce elm]

sorry

warrior f tier every season

[lavish quest]

That's right, stick to the script or no cake for you

[fierce elm]

its okay I am doing Ret main warr alt

so in case ret/arms doesnt work out

we can do fury/dk

[tribal holly]

@fierce elm

[elfin surge]

@tribal holly

[tribal holly]

Whats up

[elfin surge]

[verbal tangle]

It's bis for farming content where you one shot anyway

[verbal tangle]

Already did

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-disgust-rude-lie-liar-gif-5884411

[verbal tangle]

By popping defensives

[lavish quest]

Better be in a key

[vocal fog]

Hi guys. Coming back after 5 years and healing. I've got a buddy that mains warrior. Is there a best healer for warrior in 2s /3s? Right now thinking of maining disc and rsham, but want to be able to support him best.

[elfin surge]

pretty much any healer works well with warrior just depends whats strongest at the time. Rdruid is typically the best healer in 2s tho

[vocal fog]

Because of their damage output? I have an rdruid as well, but wasn't planning on leveling them first.

[elfin surge]

a good rdruid can do everything in 2s.

[fickle forge]

Rsham 2s usually does well

[elfin surge]

rdruids are the king of 2s and have been for a while

[fickle forge]

We did alright into Rdruid as Rsham in DF

Out oom them

[elfin surge]

[pure gorge]

Which spec looks strongest for pvp?

[elfin surge]

Fury

[pure gorge]

Slayer?

[fierce elm]

Frost mage

[elfin surge]

Yeah slayer fury is broken rn

will probably get nerfed

[lavish quest]

Don't say that

Even though I know it to be true

I prefer terms such as, "working as intended"

[elfin surge]

People just dont know how to counter it yet

[lavish quest]

Walk away slowly?

[urban skiff]

plate mafia let's go

[elfin surge]

i want to bully casters as tsg

[fickle forge]

Hey guys how do I counter the slayer fury doing half his damage with his auto attacks?

[elfin surge]

kite

[fierce elm]

hey guys how do I counter stuns

[lavish quest]

Trinket

[fickle forge]

Hey guys how do I dodge spells that get cast at me?

[rancid granite]

you have to ask it right

'whats the BEST way to dodge spells that get cast at me'

[lavish quest]

Alt F4

[violet fossil]

Unplug your pc

[rancid granite]

whats the best way to unplug my pc

whats the best way to alt f4

[lavish quest]

Aggressively

[rancid granite]

lol

[fickle forge]

Which monster flavour should I be drinking as arms warr in TWW guys?

[fierce elm]

the white one

[elfin surge]

original

[fierce elm]

Original if you are below 5’2

[fickle forge]

https://youtu.be/m0kzTpSlKiU?si=c5TCG2dyIQckdJBk

[rancid granite]

you have to mutter 'need more rage' before you drink a monster too

[fierce elm]

IM MONSTERIN UP

[drowsy star]

Was arms viable in beta or was it fury all the way?

[fierce elm]

define viable

[drowsy star]

Like not 500 rating behind fury in solo shuffle/3s

[lavish quest]

Just look at the beta leaderboards

[fierce elm]

its viable

If enhance people can get r1 last season you can do w.e on Arms next season

[lavish quest]

You can get r1 on any spec... cause... it's per spec...

[fierce elm]

3s

obviously

dumbass warrior main

[lavish quest]

No one does that dead game mode

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1260831993214795827.gif?quality=lossless&name=feedback&size=48

[elfin surge]

Its viable for sure and will probably get buffs

if they also nerf frost

arms could be insane

[lavish quest]

Ret who can't find the right discord

[fierce elm]

The paladin discord SUCKS

[lavish quest]

So never?

[fierce elm]

imagine playing arms over fury

[lavish quest]

We can't all be warriors eh?

[boreal veldt]

[elfin surge]

[fierce elm]

they are over there theorizing

trying to optimize shit

[lavish quest]

Bless been typing for a minute to finally just drop that lmao

[fierce elm]

in like semi-broken english

[lavish quest]

Welcome to EU

[boreal veldt]

my brain is churning

[lavish quest]

Well stop making warrior mains look bad

[fierce elm]

I SAW THAT

DONT SAY THAT

[drowsy star]

Thanks for the replies guys

[drowsy star]

Right in the feels

[amber heron]

please go on the forums and get mages nerfed to tground

go every day

post every day

send in meals

emails

blink needs to be 300 sec cooldown.

[drowsy star]

Drop down to 1200 mmr and u will laugh at the mages instead kekw

[amber heron]

the damage they do is fine just remove all their mobility

if you play mage you have to be statiionary

you cnt used WASD

use

[fierce elm]

dont engage chase

[lavish quest]

Evidently it needs to be a 5s cd according to blizz

[amber heron]

I want to just meet every mage player in real life and just brawl it out

venruki

the other caster guy

[hasty pulsar]

how do i kill a ret paladin 1v1 as arms

[amber heron]

parry high on wings, run shatter, use fear on wings

[fierce elm]

you dont kill a ret paladin 1v1

[boreal veldt]

don't break the fear

[hasty pulsar]

how many wings do they get these days how do wings even work

[boreal veldt]

yes

[fierce elm]

depends on what build they run

[hasty pulsar]

LOL

[fierce elm]

but most run regular crusade

so 2 minute cooldown

30s duration : )

[amber heron]

they can also get like a mini wings proc from crits or something

[fierce elm]

we dont run that in pvp

because its janky as fuck

[boreal veldt]

must be nice to run crit

[hasty pulsar]

is shatter worth running in world pvp u think I do come in contact with a lot of palas

[fierce elm]

also no its not based on crits

[hasty pulsar]

im just out there fighting a lot

[amber heron]

shatter is def worth running in the arena

[fierce elm]

its based on you being crit

[amber heron]

idk abotu world pvp

why are u playing warrior in world pvp?????????

[hasty pulsar]

lol

[fierce elm]

I mean you can run shatter, but no paladin should lose to you

[hasty pulsar]

i find it fun

[fierce elm]

unless they are garbanzo beans

[hasty pulsar]

I will kill a paladin before this day is through

[amber heron]

warrior needs a good healer to dispelll u, heal u , and carry u

otherwise the spec is absolute FUCKING DOGSHIT

dont let anyone tell u otherwise

[lavish quest]

Realize that 1v1 is a dead culture and move on

Kek

[hasty pulsar]

how do I know a paladin is about to use hammer of justice so i can reflect it

[boreal veldt]

some frost mage was asking for people to duel him for 5k in durotar yesterday lmfao

no takers

[fierce elm]

you dont lmao

[hasty pulsar]

when do they press it

[lavish quest]

Feel it in your bones

[amber heron]

as fury

[fierce elm]

when they can

[amber heron]

you can 5 stack deathwish

[hasty pulsar]

what is cd on that

[fierce elm]

when they remember they have it

[hasty pulsar]

that stun pisses me off

[amber heron]

and beat most things in a duel

[fierce elm]

CD cant be tracked

lmao

[hasty pulsar]

what is the cd though is it 1min still

feels like they always have it

[fierce elm]

its 1 min but it isnt 1 min

because it gets lowered

[hasty pulsar]

sigh

[lavish quest]

No one wants to duel c uck class

[fierce elm]

its like 25-30s usually

[hasty pulsar]

wtf..

no wonder

[fierce elm]

ret is just better

[hasty pulsar]

absolutely filthy spec tbh

[fierce elm]

He should also straight up kill you in a HoJ if you dont have trinket

[hasty pulsar]

yeah thats what just happened

that caused me to come in here and bitch

[boreal veldt]

usually like to bait hoj, like open with BS so they try and time to hoj right out of it

or assume they'll trink bolt and revenge hoj

[hasty pulsar]

yeah trinket bolt and revenge hoj does seem to happen a lot

[boreal veldt]

you reflect a revenge hoj, you can leave

you won

ggs

[hasty pulsar]

no I will not leave.

[boreal veldt]

OHH you can bolt while bladestorming now too with slayer

[hasty pulsar]

oh ya

that will be interesting

[boreal veldt]

good for rogues

gonna have a rogue button which is just
/use trink
/cast BS

/cast Bolt

[amber heron]

BS?

I didnt even know you could do that

isnt it 2 globals?

I know you can trinket parry in a macro

[hasty pulsar]

pala just bubble hearthed in front of my eyes LOL

putting that new human racial to good use

[fierce elm]

lmao rolled

[hasty pulsar]

[amber heron]

human isnt a good racial imo

Night elf, dwarf, and possibly tauren

when do we get to play as evoker warriors?

[lavish quest]

Bullied

[amber heron]

I havent seen anyone on the beta use dracythr racies

I guess its not available

[lavish quest]

Knock up and knock back. At least that was theirs in DF

[fierce elm]

My guy wants us to play Night Elf paladin

[amber heron]

who?

[fierce elm]

Nothing

I engaged my bad

[lavish quest]

You know he means warrior you monke

[hasty pulsar]

dracthyr any other class is not avaialble yet prob like 11.1.5 or 11.2.5 or somethin is my guess

[fierce elm]

I did

[amber heron]

ven is playing the high tauren race

[cinder thorn]

What are the best 1v1 classes other than rogues?

[amber heron]

prob shadow priest

r druid

[cinder thorn]

Yes I been melted by s priest before

Any others or are these the top

[amber heron]

yea i mean

I think enhance is pretty good too

antyhing with mobility and self healing

evoker prob not bad

devasation

[fierce elm]

Rogue, Deva, Paladin, Rdruids, Hpriests

Feral

Druids overall*

[amber heron]

If you want to 1v1 in world pvp i think u can just cheat and use rocket boots and potions and buffs

then u can play any class tbh

thats why most people dont play it

[fierce elm]

Spriest still has the biggest open world cheese iirc

[boreal veldt]

yeah doing world pvp without drinking your protein potions is weird

gonna miss my armor pot 1 shots

[amber heron]

@fierce elm

why is sp so good

bc it can mc or somethjing?

[fierce elm]

it has a one shot cheese

[amber heron]

or just the way it scales with stuff

[fierce elm]

dont ask how it works because I dont

[amber heron]

how could i find out?

[fierce elm]

idk

[fickle forge]

What's the best biceps exercise as arms warr in TWW?

[amber heron]

do u mean in real life

@fickle forge

[urban skiff]

zercher squats

[elfin surge]

mies curls between qs

[amber heron]

mies doesnt workout properly but

hes so consistenat

thats it works out well

[elfin surge]

does it

[amber heron]

The best thing you can do, is consistency

[fickle forge]

Who the fuck is Mies

[amber heron]

even if you do the wrong thing

hes a streamer

@elfin surge you cant deny that hes in decent shape

hes in much better shape hten the average wow playuer or even the regular guy

he def needs to work on his tan tho

[elfin surge]

https://www.twitch.tv/crusader3455/clip/CloudyMushyCrowTinyFace?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[amber heron]

guy is so pale that he could blend in on paper

[fickle forge]

It's so pixelated man

Is that Crusader?

[fierce elm]

Crusaders Bicep genetics needs to be studied

[amber heron]

he should get a gym membership and start taking 300 mg test and some anavar

[fierce elm]

Iswear to god

[amber heron]

he would look really good

[mint dagger]

hat hero spec for arms inpvp?

[fickle forge]

Crusader is definitely in decent shape

[mint dagger]

what*

[amber heron]

@elfin surge wheres ur body bro>

?

[elfin surge]

respec fury

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1100323355212648459/1263856447503073371/RPReplay_Final1709707239.mp4?ex=66c7430a&is=66c5f18a&hm=232f2f48922682095c95d577c9417221c92a287ca7a0cc6cd9cdbed6d932cd38&

[fierce elm]

skinny twink vibes

[amber heron]

post ur shit?

[mint dagger]

@elfin surge is arms just not cutting it or fury just op?

[fickle forge]

He's still in better shape than 99% of WoW players

[amber heron]

100%

[elfin surge]

fury is the best melee on beta

arms is close to being good i think but not there yet

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-loltyler1-screaming-dead-wtf-gif-17500255

[mint dagger]

and slayer tree with fury?

[elfin surge]

ya slayer fury will be the meta

until nerfs that is

[mint dagger]

any good video guides on the fury beta, never palyed fury 😛

[fierce elm]

slam face on keyboard

[elfin surge]

fury is probably the easiest melee

[amber heron]

eh i think arms is easier

[elfin surge]

doesnt matter what u think cuz its wrong

[amber heron]

its just over power over power into ms

[fierce elm]

get out of the pala discord

[elfin surge]

damage rotation of any class is simple

[amber heron]

have u ever played enh?

[elfin surge]

arms has a larger responsibility in arena

[mint dagger]

what is the fury rotation?

[elfin surge]

fury is train one target all game

[elfin surge]

smash raging blow and bloodthirst until rampage lights up

[lavish quest]

I respect it

[rancid granite]

nobody mentioning the joy in leveling as fury

double. heroic. leap.

throw in death wish spam if you're into it too

[elfin surge]

ability to win 1v1s

arms is

[rancid granite]

that too

lol

if its not working out you can leap away too

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/to-do-list-your-mom-mike-ohearn-lifestyle-gif-6112231473804063581

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/lamar-courmon-looking-oh-me-who-me-gif-16871431

[boreal veldt]

looney toon bicep build

[robust cloak]

what do you guys think is better for sus arms, spear for fat demolish or roar to capitalize on rend/deep wounds bonus damage?

arterial bleed passive*

[radiant oasis]

The answer is never spear

[rancid granite]

always spear brother

the synergy with all the bleeds seems nice tho but fury spear seems rad

but... demolish

well find out soon

[cinder thorn]

Are they doing server restarts every day or what

[latent current]

Frost mage can beat all classes at the moment

[kind sentinel]

I love screaming WELCOME TO THE DOJO whenever I hit someone with a spear

[violet fossil]

@fallen estuary I find it kinda lame they didn’t add any suits to earn

[urban skiff]

stop trolling, will obviously be thane

[verbal tangle]

Slayer Fury
Slayer Arms
Colossus Prot?

Prot kinda gets fucked because Thane sucks ass

[urban skiff]

Nah

Thane will be slapping

i have faith

[sharp meteor]

Colo looks alrightish for prot.

If shield slam procced strikes we'd be cookin

[lavish quest]

We will be clapping in pve sure

[ruby temple]

Beta tester friends. Ik we have been freed from pvp vaults, but are we still going to want crafted gear? If so does it still share the same sparks with PVE gear like in DF?

[urban skiff]

Yes. Still crafting, still world pvp gear

Doesn't share sparks anymore

[ruby temple]

Oh nice so I can keep up on both sets of gear each week on one warrior? Nice!

[fallen estuary]

They did add one for beating the one life mode

Its REALLY good

[elfin surge]

[fallen solar]

Wait. No more vaults?

[fierce elm]

there is no PvP vault in TWW

Weapon is automatically given by week 3

[rancid granite]

what about 2nd weapon

[fierce elm]

buy probs lmao

[violet fossil]

you get more conquest overall too

[rancid granite]

vaults is still there for pve though right

which is awesome for people who pve and pvp

[rancid granite]

i mean we'll get 2nd one quickly anyway np

or use honor one?

[thick reef]

How about this solution:
Sell pvp weapons in pairs for the same price with equip restriction - can only equip them as pair.
E.g sword+shield / axe+axe 1h / 2h hammer + 2h hammer / combos and all cost the same

Same goes to other classes

[fierce elm]

Delete two weapon specs

best solution

[thick reef]

Megamind take

Or replace 1 spec with ranged

[fierce elm]

I don't think havng a delayed off-hand will matter

because its been the same every season

unless you were lucky in vault

the majority of 2 weapon specs werent runnning around with two weapons week 3

Sincerely, someone who has never gotten a weapon in vault

[thick reef]

Sounds like “fun detected”

[thick reef]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-26021381

Screw’em shadowlands gearing

[fierce elm]

In my humble opinion week 3 should remove conq cap

but thats my braindead take

[elfin surge]

[urban skiff]

just more proof SMF thane fury is the main character

let's goooo

You'll be lucky if fury doesn't award 2x 1hs

Early in the beta you only had 1h choices when questing with fury as lootspec

I'm sure it's fixed now

fixed or intentional, always a gamble

[urban skiff]

Nah. In TWW beta you ONLY got 1hs from quests and drops

[fierce elm]

rolled fury dweebs

[urban skiff]

I only played early so I assume it's either intentional or was fixed, so I don't worry about it

[urban skiff]

Now's my time to shine

[boreal veldt]

Blacksmith embellish boots look real good for us, lots of speed with a bit of damage, vers&mast

Ye i was just throwin that out there for any pvpers who also do professions

good idea to pick a spec route beforehand since theres no respecing

though i guess it doesn't matter since ilvl should come from the pvp material regardless

[lavish quest]

Where's the melee embellishment that gives immunity to roots and slows

[boreal veldt]

[lavish quest]

Still wouldn't be as busted as precougers