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fierce elm
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lmao im not agreeing with you

cinder thorn
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Tanks and healers have same function

fierce elm
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I am halfway between your opinion and everyone elses

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and I definitely dont agree on that

cinder thorn
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You just literally typed this

fierce elm
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That doesnt mean they serve the same function

rancid granite
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tank is a beefy dmg soak and healer has like, heals, why you two arguing over it :D

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diff class diff roles

fierce elm
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Tanks are healers

rancid granite
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healers bring some fun strats and fun gameplay to the MIX; good variety

cinder thorn
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He fails to see that this game consists of bars, and that tanks and healers and defense cooldowns serve as padding

fierce elm
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So RMP has the exact same gameplan as Ret/Warr

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Since we are dumbing down the game extremely here

rancid granite
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tanks are universally regarded as dumb in a pvp context like 2v2/3v3 but not all of us have the skill to express and argue the point ok

violet fossil
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are y’all being gay again

wheat jay
violet fossil
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Dickballs

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Cockmunch

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Dickweed

cinder thorn
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Agreeing with the masses doesn't make it correct

If millions of people agree that something wrong is right it doesn't make it right

rancid granite
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i think millions of people agree that you're wrong

wheat jay
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Tanks can fuck off from arena, I dont wanna spend 10min fucking around before I can try to kill something

violet fossil
rancid granite
violet fossil
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ok well ur gae

wheat jay
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Or lose arena in 1minute cuz there's protpala instead of actual healer

rancid granite
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tanks are same as healers and tanks are fun in arena

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or something

cinder thorn
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So its OK if a healer causes a fight to drag to 10mins but its not OK for a tank to do same thing?

violet fossil
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tanks have their place in rbgs

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not arena

fierce elm
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If 90% of the pvp community agrees that tanks are bad for the health of the game

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it most likely is

rancid granite
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the goal is fun, and tanks are not fun in arena

fierce elm
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in an arena way

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not talking about BGs just to clear that up

rancid granite
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but i wish i could play 1h/shield as dps 😭

thick reef
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tanks are ass in arena, when i see a tank in my soloshuffle game i am annoyed

wheat jay
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Tank is immortal, dps is mortal, healer keeps me alive, tank keeps himself alive

violet fossil
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hue

cinder thorn
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Healer and tank both prolong the fight to 10mins

It is not worse having a tank in both teams than a healer in both teams

wheat jay
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I can win a fight against healer in less than 10min, can't against tank

thick reef
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ur fried bro

fickle forge
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The difference is a healer is a healer, and a tank replaces a dps

violet fossil
rancid granite
thick reef
fickle forge
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We've already had metas where prot pala replaced healers, and it was the hottest garbage

fickle forge
wheat jay
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I tried playing with tank, it was the slowest gameplay ever

thick reef
rancid granite
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look what happens when servers are down for the whole day: arguing over tanks. CHAOS!

cinder thorn
fickle forge
thick reef
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If I queue Tank, and I get a Tank match, it's 2 Dps 1 Tank each

wheat jay
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How are you going to replace a healer with tank

fickle forge
violet fossil
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if that’s the case ur screwed with whoever is not a prot pally

wheat jay
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You been healing output for arena

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Tank doesn't have that

fickle forge
wheat jay
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Ok let's have reduced dmg from tank by 90%, man's keeping me alive, I slowly rot until I can't self sustain

thick reef
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Kara have you ever actually queued tank before?

fickle forge
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Bro is playing DF beta

fickle forge
wheat jay
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We played African turtle cleave

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As fun as it was, games lasted forever

fickle forge
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Q'd blood DK for memes at one point too

thick reef
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BDK Resto xan

fickle forge
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So sick when my prot warr just deletes 40% of the dmg Artji takes, but does half the dmg of a dps

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I loved those 13 min games

wheat jay
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I never die, I never kill

cinder thorn
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If people are against tanks because they prolong matches so do healers

So be consistent

thick reef
wheat jay
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Dps can die

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Tank doesn't die

rancid granite
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but tanks dont really have... weakness / outplay right

violet fossil
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healers don’t prolong matches tho

fierce elm
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cant wait to queue ret/warr/prot warr

thick reef
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They do

rancid granite
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no real skill expression etc

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healers puttin in WORK to heal and do things

wheat jay
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Tank doesn't die unless they're absolute idiots in arena

thick reef
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Bodyguard means you need to separate the tank from the kill target

cinder thorn
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Tanks take extra damage in pvp

rancid granite
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i can tell there is 0 healers in this chat hahah

fickle forge
cinder thorn
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So don't say they don't die

wheat jay
violet fossil
fickle forge
wheat jay
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So no, they don't die unless it's so damp healer can't heal their big health bar

fickle forge
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Tanks are only good when massively overtuned, nobody likes them

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They bring nothing except for carrying flags

thick reef
rancid granite
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speaking of healers i hope when servers are up we can undelete characters finally so i can try holy paladin

thick reef
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Just click MS more

fickle forge
fickle forge
wheat jay
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5 tanks meta

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EZ

lavish quest
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Is it really hard to understand tanks make pvp ass?

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Even in RBGs I enjoyed it more when you just used a DPS to flag carry and such back in the day

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Even preferred the burst of speed meta

violet fossil
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they’ve always had a PvP aura mod nerf

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60% damage taken something like that

violet fossil
lavish quest
violet fossil
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lol

thick reef
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Go read Prot War patch notes

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Huge buffs

wheat jay
violet fossil
fickle forge
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Ban tanks in PvP

rancid granite
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good buffs cause they know bgb is the new thing

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rbgb*

hasty pulsar
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what content does blizz tune around

fickle forge
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3v3

hasty pulsar
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is that different then solo shuffle

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not really right

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is there any worl where they tune aroun rated bg blitz or wat

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like i feel like certain specs just wild

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kinda weird situations going on here

fickle forge
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Yeah it's different from solo

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Solo shuffle and 3v3 are like two worlds apart

hasty pulsar
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but like is it possible where seperate tunings can occur?!

violet fossil
hasty pulsar
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seems like they have enough trouble even just doing 3v3 pvp tuning alone

hasty pulsar
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ok

violet fossil
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they’re gonna balance around solo most likely

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nowadays

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which they have

hasty pulsar
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just feels kinda of annoying like i said certain specs just do so well in bg

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imbalanced in some cases imo

fickle forge
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@elfin surge is the insider guy, he prob knows what bracket they tune PvP for

violet fossil
fickle forge
hasty pulsar
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I just feel like if its rated and competitive it actually shoudl be tuned accordingly.. i know thats a hot take I guess?

violet fossil
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Blizzard is kinda ass about tuning

fickle forge
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Arena is what matters

wheat jay
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raid and m+ is what matters

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everything else is a side content

lavish quest
fickle forge
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Please

wheat jay
fickle forge
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Yes, but it's not what we're talking about you hunter brain

hasty pulsar
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honestly they should balance everything seperately just let an AI do it

violet fossil
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I’m gonna assume they’re gonna balance around bgb next

wheat jay
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😄

fickle forge
wheat jay
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id expect mobility and tanks to be somewhat balanced around bgb

hasty pulsar
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i actually woul love a seperate test server that is solely run by an AI

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just to see what happens

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would be interresting

wheat jay
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nothing else really

violet fossil
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what if you mouse over one ability and it has 4 different texts for what it does in each setting lol

wheat jay
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and even that would be a big enterprise for blizz undertake

fickle forge
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I heard BGB is just about who has the better rogue

hasty pulsar
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mistweaver monks are insane

wheat jay
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basically, ye

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if he can hold a base

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gg you won

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if he can't gg you lost

fickle forge
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Can you duo in BGB?

hasty pulsar
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if u r a healer yes

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can duo with 1 dps

fickle forge
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Healers duo with rogues and get free R1

wheat jay
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yep

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basically

hasty pulsar
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are healers going to be invincible forever or is that changing in tww

wheat jay
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healers are not rly invincible

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or at least weren't in tww

fickle forge
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Just spam your micro CC and healers fall over

lavish quest
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Think healer can duo with another healer too if they wanted to

charred shadow
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Seems like disc priests are unkillable

distant wharf
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sheit arms seems bad in pre patch

violet fossil
elfin surge
distant wharf
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fastest conquest cap now days?

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in pre patch

sharp meteor
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afk for expac

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grinding for gear now actual insanity

rancid granite
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just play the game and have fun

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learn/practice class, kill the enemy, have some laughs

fickle forge
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What's the best tea flavour for pre-patch arms guys?

frigid cosmos
fickle forge
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Yeah and you'll get -200 aura for playing as a lizard

cinder thorn
wheat jay
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What do we go by

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Do we tell AI to look at representation?

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Since that's the most accurate thing we can look at I guess

wheat jay
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If so, then I can see some affli, ele, balance, frost mage buffs, looking at s4 shuffle

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Sub, demo

cinder thorn
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They can fully automate toons to play perfectly as in the perfect bots

Let them fight each other and treat each others team as a pool of abilities

AI will figure out best rotations and setups

Balance around that, instead of whatever balancing method they follow now, or at least couple it with

fickle forge
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What the fuck lmao

wheat jay
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That would be the dumbest shit on the planet ahhahahahahab

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Fucking hell xD

fickle forge
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Nah this is the hottest take so far

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I love it

wheat jay
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Hahaha

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Ok so, if all is balanced, then we look at ease of play I guess

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Imma go dh you go dk, EZ

cinder thorn
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You guys clearly have no idea what AI is capable of

At uni we had studied AI 20 years ago and now it's so much more

wheat jay
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Ok so you'd want wow to be balanced around perfect play that's above awc level

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Since AI could be capable of that

cinder thorn
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Otherwise what they either select a few players and try to balance but they will have varying skill levels

Or they do it using statistics but for that it would be reactive balancing

wheat jay
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Wait, how are you going to balance fake casting with AI?

cinder thorn
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You tell it to fake cast to.bait the other AI

wheat jay
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Or rather, how would AI take into consideration a variable of fake casting, when there's bots doing instant kicks that can't be faked already

cinder thorn
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If you want balance this is how you get balance

If people aren't skilled enough for it then tell them to learn their class

wheat jay
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So every cast would be kicked

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Oooo imma call the classic

cinder thorn
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No you can simulate for degrees of randomness in casts and kicks and account for lag etc

You really have not much idea about what AI is capable of

fickle forge
wheat jay
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It would be the dumbest shit ever to balance around AI doing perfect setups, cuz players don't do that

cinder thorn
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Sure, keep crying about balance then as you have been since wow release 👶

The reality is some people enjoy moaning and will do so no matter what solution is presented

wheat jay
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Noone does perfect setups

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XD

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Nah borhanix, you're just too good for me

fickle forge
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Brother why do you think nobody is simulation PvP numbers and shit

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Almost like you can't

wheat jay
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Nah nah kargish let him cook

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I wanna see that dish

cinder thorn
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Your logic is flawed

Who do you balance around then?

Top rated players are equally out of reach skill wise to majority of population

Average rated players has its own problems

The best would be to combine AI with top rated with average players and do an average balance

lavish quest
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I ain't reading and I can already tell yall thinking too hard. Just do damage

fickle forge
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We can go by realism or the AI's made up scenario clueless

wheat jay
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Then you remove the AI aspect by mixing it with human reactions?

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Artificial intelligence mixed with natural stupidity

wheat jay
fickle forge
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I would never trust an AI outside of raw math or syntax code fixing

wheat jay
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Or any other book?

violet fossil
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Name 10 books

wheat jay
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That's how vesa got elite

wheat jay
violet fossil
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I fucking love that guy

wheat jay
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The little dumbass?

violet fossil
wheat jay
lavish quest
violet fossil
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she was asking about dk months ago one time

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didn’t know if she had it already tho

wheat jay
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She got red sword and refused ti make a mog with it

fickle forge
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Yeah she got it

hot solstice
wheat jay
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Cuz the sword is terrible and doesn't go well with any set on any class

fickle forge
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She got that raw winstreak

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Artji and I may or may not have done some coaching cheer leading

wheat jay
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When you play enough lobbies you will eventually roll few good ones in a row

violet fossil
hot solstice
violet fossil
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what’d he do?

fickle forge
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Bro's mad he can't name 10 books

hot solstice
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wheat jay
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No?

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Thought so

violet fossil
fickle forge
wheat jay
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Deadlift

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Other i know in Polish

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Squat

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Ohp

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Dips

violet fossil
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incline bench press

wheat jay
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Le bench

fickle forge
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Is dips compound?

wheat jay
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Jerk and clean or whatever it was called, the olympic stuff

wheat jay
thick reef
violet fossil
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yes

wheat jay
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Lunges?

violet fossil
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it is

hot solstice
wheat jay
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Rows when you like bent forward?

fickle forge
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Lunges ain't surely

wheat jay
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Mmmm

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How many I got?

violet fossil
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Bulgarian squat

fickle forge
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6

violet fossil
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split squad

fickle forge
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7 now

violet fossil
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Squat

wheat jay
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Mah boy Zercher wirh zercher squat

hot solstice
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bet every country might have its own squat

wheat jay
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Fucking pushups

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So 9?

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M...mmm

boreal veldt
fickle forge
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Looks like lunges are compound

violet fossil
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dumbbell lunges kill me

wheat jay
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Chin ups ez

violet fossil
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ngl

wheat jay
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Got 10

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@fickle forge I win

fickle forge
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And dips

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Ye

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You pass

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Can @cinder thorn name 10 AIs though?

wheat jay
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Are curls compound if your biceps are big?

violet fossil
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hammer curls

fickle forge
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I hate hammer man

wheat jay
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Mehh

fickle forge
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I'm a drag curl enthusiast now

violet fossil
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I don’t have an ez bar to curl with

wheat jay
violet fossil
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but I would if I had one

wheat jay
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Dumbell french press is my #1

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I love doing it

fickle forge
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Is that where you surrender and drop the weight?

cinder thorn
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ChatGPT, DALL·E, DeepL, Midjourney, TensorFlow, GrammarlyGo, Paradox.ai, Empower by Ringover, Synthesia

violet fossil
cinder thorn
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Oh and perplexity that's 11

boreal veldt
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not listing Grok from twitter is a travesty

wheat jay
violet fossil
sharp meteor
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prot buffed turn the servers on

violet fossil
lavish quest
worthy fern
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@wheat jay you jacked now?

wheat jay
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Mo

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No

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I was depresso

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Now I'm not depresso

lavish quest
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So then shouldn't you be jacked now?

near inlet
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Hello everyone; I haven't played WoW for 3 years. I am thinking of starting in the new patch, but I am very indecisive in character preference. Although my main is Warrior, I have played very little with warrior since I realized how enjoyable demon hunter is. What about Warriors in New patch?

wheat jay
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How it will look like when actual season starts, noone knows

rancid granite
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warrior looks good and DH looks good

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id say youtube the classes and go with what playstyle you think you'd like more and not worry about whats good or bad :)

wheat jay
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Looks good for 2s tho

rancid granite
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maybe he likes dh though

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dh and its playstyle etc

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playing for 'whats best' seems like such an unfun experience 😭

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that being said warbands are a thing now; he could always play both

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it'll be much easier =p

wheat jay
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Cuz you're not getting class diffed by top specs when you play something thats weak, but fun

rancid granite
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i guess if you're that type of person

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i mean if you don't really care what class you play

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but i mean if you really enjoy like warrior and demon hunter; play em and not worry about ThE MeTa

wheat jay
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Ye, its more enjoyable that way, especially at higher end of pvp

rancid granite
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people worry too much

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one moment you're at the top then bam a nerf then what

wheat jay
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Like, I enjoyed playing kfc in 3s

violet fossil
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I need arms build for midnight s4 pls

wheat jay
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But kfc was on losing position every single game

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And to win I had to do acrobatics on my dickk

rancid granite
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sounds fun

wheat jay
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I played hero cleave, I still had my fun

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And games were infinitely less stressful

cinder thorn
wheat jay
cinder thorn
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Sounds like prepatch to me

wheat jay
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No, s4, around 2200-2300mmr or so

rancid granite
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idk if my alt was THAT much better / more buffed maybe i'd think the same and swap too lol

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but only on another class id like

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i generally just play warrior and rogue

cinder thorn
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Was it Karanze or Seif posted a screen of 2400 rating but like 1900 mmr or some crap

Mmr is a mess

cinder thorn
thick reef
rancid granite
cinder thorn
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It's like if you're in a game vs a rogue you just better stand there and die

And everyone else look away they know its gonna be disgusting end

wheat jay
sharp meteor
wheat jay
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Lmao

hasty pulsar
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why they buff ele shaman in pvp am i missing something here

cinder thorn
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Yes the girlfriend of blizz ceo said no sex unless she can 1v8 in solo blitz with her shaman

Blizz ceo caved in

hasty pulsar
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sound bout right

spice hornet
boreal veldt
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arms feels better

spice hornet
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It’s bad on beta

boreal veldt
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we're bleed spec now

hasty pulsar
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so like do we actually do more or less dam after todays patch

boreal veldt
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more, i'd say arms is back

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ALSO did anyone know that will of the forsaken reduces medallion cooldown by 30sec

hasty pulsar
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really is that a bug or wat

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seems weird

boreal veldt
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i have no idea

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but i'm abusing the hell out of it atm

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like as a warrior who rarely needs to use it, it's kinda cracked

charred shadow
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I went in Blitz with just honor gear and arms felt great. I was punching MFers in the mouth.

rancid granite
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it'll feel better when you get a weapon 😉

lavish quest
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Human racial is same way

boreal veldt
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once the 30sec is up on racial, i use it

lavish quest
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Should be on a 90s

boreal veldt
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the cd on trinket which should be now 90sec

lavish quest
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Unless undead is weird

boreal veldt
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goes to 60

lavish quest
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I feel like that has to be a new bug

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No way that's been around for a while and no one mentioned it

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I thought you meant it put your trinket on a 90s cd (how it should be working) and that's 30s lower than the normal 2 mins. (Thus could be seen as reducing by 30s)

boreal veldt
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I know, i'm bad at explaining which is why i just made the clip lol

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But yeah there ya go, cool lil bug for my undead friends

lavish quest
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Rerolling undead once my undead warrior is out if remix

boreal veldt
frigid cosmos
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You can actually use it after 60s

boreal veldt
radiant oasis
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Is there a design justification for why execute is so weak?

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That spell should feel like touch of death without a cool down

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Instead it's mortal strike city

hybrid socket
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Any war pre-patch builds viable?

urban skiff
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which is arms

frank light
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any glad fury warriors in this bitty?

urban skiff
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not glad but what do you need?

wheat jay
elfin surge
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heh

lavish quest
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He must have a question only a true fury savant can answer

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Won't take just do damage from us, needs to hear it from a glad

hot solstice
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black market not working?

maiden trellis
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Does fury clap rn on live or gotta wait for tww?

urban skiff
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Depends how clappy you want to be. Fury is very fun, probably the most fun melee despite being most affected by the armor changes

hot solstice
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armor numbers r crazzy rn

maiden trellis
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Ah i see, had a fury in shuffle and he was lowest dps every game, not sure if spec or skill issue

elfin surge
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fury god mode on beta

hot solstice
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Kitty cleave dream?

urban skiff
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I prefer to call it hairy thug cleave

hot solstice
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cant believe they made shockwave 2sec

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cant imagine situation u would pick one as slayer

lavish quest
elfin surge
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Lontar

lavish quest
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Isn't that a healer?

wheat jay
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Yes

lavish quest
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What do healers know clueless

wheat jay
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He's on beta 27/7

wheat jay
lavish quest
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I see. Maybe I'll have to check it out

urban skiff
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Time to play prot for a while

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Big big dam

fierce elm
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Lontar is a NERD

wheat jay
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every streamer is a nerd

fickle forge
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Afro is a NERD

radiant oasis
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when you inspect someone

wheat jay
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the only benefit of streamers is that it feels good when you kill them on stream

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and you can go to their stream and say sth like "gg i was the warrior"

fickle forge
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GG I was the felguard

wheat jay
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GG I was the imp

wheat jay
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it is what it is

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if i played na and i killed you in arena

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I'd spam ping you

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❤️

sharp meteor
fierce elm
hasty pulsar
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anyone know an addon to prevent me from chatting in pvp matches

sharp meteor
hasty pulsar
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and to block others chats even

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ok great thank you

rancid granite
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teamwork 101

hasty pulsar
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yeah i cant do it anymore if i continue with seeing chat/typing i am going to get in trouble

rare oak
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Has the latest patch shifted arms talents around at all? I see some folks using skullsplitter again for example.

lavish quest
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Just prepare your finest leveling build

rare oak
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Huh? xD

lavish quest
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Prepatch = doesn't matter, who cares. We're just waiting to level in 8 or 12 days.

rancid granite
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bleeds got a lil buff so people prob trying it out again

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but yeah try stuff out and prepate for tww leveling

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i mean its all balanced with hero talents in mind anyway right

rare oak
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Yeah I plan to go colossus and im interested in setting up windows where I can use spear + demolish full stacks

rancid granite
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same; no matter if MeTa or not it def sounds most fun lol

rare oak
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Right? Set up for that big smash.

hasty pulsar
#

ive been using skullspliter and it owns

dark topaz
#

trophy of strife removed

hasty pulsar
#

good change

prime solar
#

Nice

urban skiff
elfin surge
#

tww hype

lavish quest
#

This just in:
Mud says wow's finally back!

hasty pulsar
#

anyone know how to get battlegroundenemies to work again

boreal veldt
hasty pulsar
#

yeah ive noticed that also.. been awful

lavish quest
#

I have a big black box stuck on the upper left of my screen since patch. Not even sure from what addon. Just gotta get to new expac bricking things for a while.

hasty pulsar
lavish quest
#

My guess is it's one of those rare hunting addons, but I haven't bothered to dig into it. I'll just wait for it to update until right before tww launch

#

I'm playing other games and going out anyways

urban skiff
hasty pulsar
#

just doesnt show up in bgs

#

new patch broke it

urban skiff
#

patch broke my TSM so I had to wait to make gold

fierce elm
hasty pulsar
#

ya i just was curious anyone knew any sort of workaround or some crap

#

but yeah will continue to wait

#

cuz i saw some streamer and theirs was working

fierce elm
#

ask da streamer

elfin surge
#

hate streamers

urban skiff
#

streamers hating streamers

#

better to be a streamer than a steamer

charred shadow
#

Is there any good guide on Solo shuffle for arms? My first foray into it and was called trash by an Azralon player and to delete my character.

#

BGs have been my jam.

thick reef
#

anyone got a decent pre-patch fury warrior talent build ?

hasty pulsar
cinder thorn
#

If you meet good players who give you advice take it into account

If you want better advice here post a video of your gameplay and people will watch it and tell you things to improve

lavish quest
#

Nah nah nah. Focus on your DPS

#

Bigger number = more win

cinder thorn
#

That's trash advice he's joking

lavish quest
#

Nope. Doing big dam will get you far

#

Think less, damage more

cinder thorn
#

I win games with half dps as others

People with high damage numbers do dots and spread damage to pets and useless damage that is easily healed

To win you need to do high damage at the right time

lavish quest
#

Well I mean big player damage lol

#

Like you should be top on end of game screen

charred shadow
#

Thank you guys

distant wharf
#

can someone link a fury pre patch build

kind sentinel
#

Yeah i got u

distant wharf
#

funny guy

kind sentinel
#

On the real, you want something for arenas or bgs

urban skiff
kind sentinel
fickle forge
#

Be selfish and play around your own carry potential

#

And do big dps

lavish quest
#

^

dense herald
#

As warrior?

wheat jay
#

As everything

#

Don't expect people to give you wins

#

And there is no shot someone said they win games with half the dmg of others

#

Are we talking 1800 or what

urban skiff
#

peak world of pvp content

wheat jay
#

Lmaooo

#

Nah but for real how do you get carpal tunnel from playing wow

urban skiff
#

MMO mouse with rotation on the side buttons lol

gray ruin
#

you probably get carpal tunnel from playing shooters

#

your fingers always on wasd

urban skiff
#

or spending the last 20 years playing on private servers as a warrior

urban skiff
gray ruin
wheat jay
#

Isnt there like 60 diff exercises to relieve the pressure?

gray ruin
urban skiff
#

Wouldn't know. Been M+KB gaming for 30+ years now and I haven't had a problem so I doubt it'll ever be a problem

urban skiff
gray ruin
#

maybe they need to reincarnate as someone with better genetics

#

you use binds for targetting?

urban skiff
#

now press them as fast as you can literally from combat starts until end in mythic raids

gray ruin
#

ik a lot of people do

urban skiff
#

nah

#

I don't play smart

gray ruin
#

Good on you

#

you scared me there

#

i wouldnt want you to be competent

#

and threaten my ego

urban skiff
#

Gonna activate action targetting just to be more zugzug

gray ruin
#

Go Ahead

urban skiff
#

Wish frenzy didn't drop when switching opponents

#

fury seems like the kind of spec that should be swapping targets without any issues at all

gray ruin
#

hows aug in the prepatch
and in beta

wheat jay
#

Noone knows

gray ruin
urban skiff
#

in beta it's supposedly pretty oppressive but people don't talk about it

wheat jay
#

Cuz you cant simply sim it

#

And in pvp works bad or good depending on comp

urban skiff
#

also aug gets outshined because both prevoker and devoker are stronk as well

wheat jay
#

I'd expect Aug fury to be good

lavish quest
#

Nah. Fury will be nerfed before season just like DF

#

Poggers

wheat jay
#

Most likely

#

Who knows though

#

It might stay strong

rancid granite
#

the guy in that post above totally played fury and look what happened to him

charred shadow
#

Well I gave solo another shot and luckily won two games and no one told me to go kill myself or delete the game. I did have a DH who ranged the healer within 5 seconds of the gates opening and went splat. I couldn’t even get my setup done.

wheat jay
#

Lmao

#

Happens

lavish quest
#

Idk... shoulda killed them within 4 seconds

cinder thorn
#

Wtf

Whats the point of playing

I just finished rated bg and won and got zero rating gain

I was highest rating to start with

Not even 1 rating gain

What's the point

rancid granite
cinder thorn
#

If this happens again I'll just delete this game fuck this

rancid granite
#

congratulations on being the first person to get heated for winning

violet fossil
#

It’s only prepatch man

lavish quest
cinder thorn
#

Yes but it's showing me what will happen in future when I reach a high enough rating

If it doesn't give the highest rating player any gain what so ever

Then what's the point for those players in queuing at all??

A loss would take over 100 rating away and a win gets zero

So its better not to play literally

I have zero interest in pve, only pvp

So if that's the future of pvp when you get to high rating maybe it's a good idea to save self time and headache and not bother from now

lavish quest
#

If I win to a mage, I get mad at them for sucking so bad they lost to a warrior

charred shadow
#

This is why I play PVE and PvP I get to double rage.

rancid granite
#

lmao

#

pve is my safe zone man i can just yolo solo RP

#

win and keep winning = # goes up
lose and keep losing = # go down

charred shadow
#

I think I am going to get hammered tonight and play Solo Shuffle, what could go wrong

cinder thorn
#

They basically asking players to stop playing things they are successful with and best with

Literally driving players away

rancid granite
#

i got my email today of them stating that

sharp meteor
urban skiff
cinder thorn
cinder thorn
#

Just happened again, 0 rating gain after win

Someone else on losing team lost 200 rating....

urban skiff
urban skiff
#

Consecutive wins increases the mmr gained per win. If you had a losing streak and then hit a win lose win lose streak it could be so small that you need to build momentum again

#

What rating are you at?

cinder thorn
#

I can't remember about 1900 or so

wheat jay
#

Game expects you to win against people with lower cr

#

Thats all there is to it

#

It makes sense for game to not reward you for killing people that are lower rated than you

lavish quest
#

Why Artji Flys up. Game always expects him to lose, so when he manages a win he flys up

#

:)

wheat jay
#

Real

#

Game puts me against awc people

#

I go 4-2

#

Even if I go 3-3, if I play against people that far above me xp wise I get rating

#

Thats how it works

cinder thorn
#

Yes but if I'm the highest rated person queuing up there is no point to play

You are queuing with higher rated players than you

I'm the highest in the pool of players

So thats the problem

I'm extremely put off playing now

If I lose a match I lose more than 200 points and if I win I get 0

wheat jay
#

then every pvp game is off putting

#

cuz thats how it works in EVERY pvp game

#

you get small reward for beating people worse than you, you get big reward for beating people better than you

fierce elm
#

lmao

#

now this is truly a r/worldofpvp worthy post

wheat jay
#

it is

fierce elm
#

if you are guided by imaginary points to play maybe you dont like the game

wheat jay
#

nah bro i want my +30cr for winning at 1600mmr when im 2400cr O_O

#

MAH POINTS MAN

lavish quest
lavish quest
wheat jay
#

lmao

lavish quest
#

Borhanix after seeing +0 prepatch out of season pointless CR:

elfin surge
urban skiff
dense herald
#

The bigger you are up

#

The bigger the fall

#

But greater the reward

frigid cosmos
#

It might be time to go touch grass or lift some weights and get off the keyboard for a few weeks...

lavish quest
thick reef
#

No the guy is a tard

rancid granite
#

it's just touch grass time when you get mad for winning

#

a nice break will fix it

fickle forge
#

Maybe an AI can fix the rating system

elfin surge
#

tww hype

rancid granite
#

idk how it works in detail cause im a simple minded warrior but i know win more = climb more

fierce elm
#

my sub ran out : (

tight rain
#

Trickster rogue:
Faze: Fazed enemies cannot parry your attacks
This seems a bit unfair for Arms Warrior 😢

cinder thorn
elfin surge
fierce elm
#

reported nerd

fierce elm
rancid granite
#

buhsac is gonna get the word tard filtered now 😭

#

don't say the full word tho

hasty pulsar
#

wat the deal with these assassination rogues this sudden demise talent is obscene.. their overall dam is way too high

boreal veldt
hasty pulsar
#

are they getting nerfed in tww

#

or wat

#

some dude said they getting even stronger

boreal veldt
#

i don't think there are anymore class changes slated till we get into tww max level area times

fierce elm
#

Sub is better in TWW iirc

hasty pulsar
#

all rogues need a nerf

boreal veldt
#

i'm fine with rogues, at least they're in melee range

#

fury can at least wall ~~they're ~~ their opener in stun

#

my grammar is horrific today

hasty pulsar
#

mistweavers in bg need a ground nerf

#

like into the ground level nerf

fierce elm
#

you seem to want nerfs to everything

#

ADAPT

#

OVERCOME

#

CONQUER

hasty pulsar
#

have u seen mistweavers

#

they click 2 buttons and they literally traverse over half the map

#

just telling it like it is

fierce elm
#

yeah

#

or you can ADAPT

#

OVERCOME

hasty pulsar
#

cant overcome imbalanced situations

fierce elm
#

Sure you can

hasty pulsar
#

wildly imbalanced i should say

#

need to level the playing field

fierce elm
#

It's called 'accepting the way it is' and finding a way to increase your odds

boreal veldt
#

its a bg

#

just mount up

hasty pulsar
#

they are literally unstoppable

#

they have an answer for every root/slow

fierce elm
#

There are two paths here, either beg for nerfs and complain that stuff is busted

#

OR

#

you can just be okay with it

#

and see what changes

boreal veldt
#

Afro is beyond touching grass

hasty pulsar
#

i can do both at the same time

boreal veldt
#

Mans is touching zen garden

hasty pulsar
#

just telling it like it is OK

fierce elm
#

you cant do both at the same time lmao

hasty pulsar
#

yeah you can

#

lol

fierce elm
#

You can't come in a public forum and complain about it

hasty pulsar
#

can still play and work to win bg's accepting how it is

rancid granite
#

no quicker way to being a fussy pants than looking with the perspective of what it isnt

hasty pulsar
#

but also speak truth that they are wildly imbalanced

rancid granite
#

yeah chicken nuggies are good but they aren't tacos so they suck

fierce elm
#

lmao

rancid granite
#

tacos rock but they aren't nuggies so they suck too

hasty pulsar
boreal veldt
rancid granite
#

i mean i can make same analogy with sauce ok

hasty pulsar
#

kinda weird you guys do not understand the concept of mutual exclusivity

boreal veldt
rancid granite
#

honeymustard is awesome but its not chikfila sauce; and chickfila sauce is awesome but its not honey mustard

#

so ill complain about both

boreal veldt
#

someone stop him

rancid granite
#

its ok afro gets it

#

two types of people

#

"i like warrior because they have" and "i hate warrior because they dont have.."

#

beastie boys made a song about it

#

its called GRATITUDE

#

i've had too much caffeine but im thankful for it 🙏

fierce elm
#

lmao

#

Bro this shit is TOTALLY BUSTED

#

BROKEN

#

NERF NOW

#

actually I am okay with this

#

doesn't really work

charred shadow
#

What’s busted.

#

I wanna jump on the busted train.

fierce elm
#

Unsubbing, you can't believe the things you can get done if you aren't desperately playing WoW

rancid granite
#

everything; even winning is busted now apparently

fierce elm
#

Increases productivity by 1000%

charred shadow
#

Truth, I’ve gotten so many Nintendo switch games complete.

fierce elm
#

Imagine the hours spent on WoW and apply it on a skill that can make your life better

charred shadow
#

I did get several AI certs while taking a break.

fierce elm
#

exactly

frigid cosmos
#

Some of the people in here are softer than toilet paper.

fierce elm
#

uhm reported and blocked

boreal veldt
frigid cosmos
elfin surge
#

Afro is a baby

fierce elm
#

what the fuck

boreal veldt
hot solstice
#

why everyones talking about fury having 2 bladestorms while every good warrior isnt even playing that talent?

cinder thorn
hot solstice
#

or maybe they arent gnomes

frigid cosmos
#

I'm just never going to attack the mage

hot solstice
cinder thorn
#

Well if they have permanent root, having 1.5min bladestorm x2 won't make a difference

hot solstice
#

I believe it will be real thing to see

#

cba colosus is such a joke

#

0 damage with no stucks on first avatar go

#

try to synchronize that demolish with shockwave and csmash

rancid granite
#

isnt spell reflect x intervene a thing again?

boreal veldt
rancid granite
#

😭

boreal veldt
#

The tool tip says ranged in general though so it's worth testing

lavish quest
#

No fun allowed cuz mages would cri they only kinda get free wins

rancid granite
#

i was looking forward to it for a while now but i don't keep up with the notes or beta so... bummer lol

#

one day!

distant wharf
#

What rating do I need to transmog the golden classic xmog from stormwind pvp vendor?

lavish quest
#

1800

#

If you mean the rbg set

distant wharf
#

In solo shuffel?

lavish quest
#

Rbgs

distant wharf
#

Grand Marshal and high Warlord transmog

lavish quest
#

Or blitz now

#

Those modes only

distant wharf
#

OH..

#

Why

#

Why not arena

lavish quest
#

Because that's how it's done

#

😎

distant wharf
#

Blitz..

#

Does it take long

lavish quest
#

Aka they from vanilla. Vanilla didn't have arenas

#

It has bgs

#

Idk, I got the set years ago from rbgs

distant wharf
#

Im 2.4 on my dh. Its acc bounded?

rancid granite
#

I think it's per char

lavish quest
#

Ye, think if you want war set you have to do it on war. But then you can mog it on any war

narrow compass
#

We need a new RBG set.

violet fossil
#

maybe a tint

rose spoke
#

Any secret tech for Fury on beta?

narrow compass
#

Unique pvp sets could drive participation up if they’re well done

violet fossil
boreal veldt
#

they really should remake the high marshal/warlord sets and weapons in hd

urban skiff
fierce elm
boreal veldt
#

like are the extra swords after images or

lavish quest
urban skiff
rose spoke
#

Yeah but the tree looks almost the same as S2 DF, minor adjustments

distant wharf
#

fury the way to go for getting 1.8 in blitz? 😄

thick reef
#

Is 1.8k the glad equivalent title for blitz?

rancid granite
# urban skiff

neat where did you get this from? i need to see the other classes 😛

urban skiff
urban skiff
#

Kinda cool

#

I like how rogue spec has barely one line

rancid granite
#

ty!

#

lol Deathstalker description; yeah rogue 101 description

real briar
#

new to pvp whats a good site for pvp talents and gear and stuff

urban skiff
hollow lotus
rancid granite
#

tanks? what do they own the world?

#

disorder 😔

boreal veldt
#

pshhh, how do you own disorder?!

hollow lotus
#

Exactly what I needed.

rancid granite
#

🫡

charred shadow
#

What hero spec is looking like the play in TWW?

tribal wedge
#

answer the 11th september friend

charred shadow
#

🤙

rancid granite
#

ive heard all seem great tbh

cinder thorn
#

I like making my own builds

I spend more time making builds and testing than actually playing the game

rancid granite
#

I've yet to read any of the talents yet lol; that's for when i level up

prime solar
rancid granite
#

bg's great for testing builds

prime solar
#

😐

violet fossil
prime solar
prime solar
violet fossil
#

yeah they nerfed it

sharp meteor
#

(abilities dont do dmg)

#

woo

dense herald
violet fossil
#

911

tribal wedge
#

sus choice of date to start a season 👀

cunning portal
#

What’s better vs a resto Druid between frost dk and fury war?

boreal veldt
#

but that question is weird, like are you only fighting the resto? cause if so you can equip a fishing pole and keep hitting until one of you get bored

charred shadow
#

Fury has MS?

violet fossil
sharp meteor
urban skiff
urban skiff
urban skiff
#

wake up, the new cleave just released

cinder thorn
urban skiff
#

In my tests it didn't feel that bad, and in bgs i felt a significant lift in uptime from the higher movement speed.

I can fit meatcleaver in my build, so worst case i accept losing one of the cleave talents to skip the fury tax

fierce elm
#

let us mog 1 handers as 2 handers

#

and remove smf

urban skiff
#

Smf has one advantage over 2h.

Go smf, transmog to fury artifact weapons for speedy 2h.
Now you look as ridiculous as fury should.

#

I have a radical fix for smf:
Allow us to build new slaughterhouse stacks while the full stack is expiring. It would increase the value of pumping rampages relentlesslu

distant wharf
#

how come some ppl are full conquest gerar and 0 rating

wheat jay
#

Alts

#

You can, or could have bought conquest gear boxes on your main and send them to your alt

distant wharf
#

this is my main 😛

#

shoulnt bought 2x 1800conquest weps

fierce elm
#

it was the right call

#

you are gonna have 0 gear for a bit and thats fine

wheat jay
#

Enjoy some casual pvp

distant wharf
#

is bloodthirs prio before rging blow?

elfin surge
cinder thorn
olive bear
#

mudforged is real

wheat jay
elfin surge
#

colossus is cooler

wheat jay
wheat jay
lavish quest
elfin surge
#

well slayer is better but colossus is cooler

cinder thorn
#

No one will care about cooler if it doesn't win matches

Let's hope they're both viable

fierce elm
#

Imagine thinking talent tree wins games smh

urban skiff
cinder thorn
urban skiff
#

Thane so stronk it's gonna accidentally clap people next to your kill target

lavish quest
lavish quest
#

Well we know if it hits hard, its getting nerfed

#

Like we know this right?

elfin surge
#

wish i was unbanned from mage cord

lavish quest
#

So you could finally reroll?

elfin surge
#

so i can talk some shit

lavish quest
#

Just show em your bench

#

Shame they too sensitive

fierce elm
#

He benches like 60lbs

#

fuck you mean

rancid granite
#

thats like 400lbs to mages tho

lavish quest
rancid granite
#

great minds think alike

#

and they all think: fuck mages

lavish quest
#

Well that's just any one with some respect

cinder thorn
urban skiff
cinder thorn
#

Aoe storm seems meh, it will share DR with shockwave

And its only 2s for non main target

#

I guess as long as you time 18sec between them it would be OK

#

Those hero talents if they're 1 each level does that mean you will unlock all of them by time ur 80?

You don't have to choose between the 3 branches?

urban skiff
#

You'll have all at 80. Some choice nodes

cinder thorn
#

Oh right cool that's easy for noobs then

#

Easier for them to balance also

fickle forge
#

What wristwatch brand should I use as arms in TWW?

elfin surge
urban skiff
fierce elm
elfin surge
#

wtf

fierce elm
#

I am a pro at shaming you

elfin surge
#

60 is good tho

fierce elm
#

yeah if you are a 5 year old female weighing 50lbs

elfin surge
#

kargish says i cant do the bar

#

so

fierce elm
#

Kargish has zero belief in you

#

wack

boreal veldt
#

you can do the bar

#

just depends what drink you order

fierce elm
#

you can grab the lil dbs

rancid granite
#

I've actually stopped using it as a fitbit and it's just a normal watch these days lol

fickle forge
elfin surge
wheat jay
#

sadgish

cinder thorn
fickle forge
# elfin surge Kargish? Karanze? Never heard of them.

Mud shows extreme levels of narcissism, he has utterly no self control, he showed very obvious signs that he fails and panics under pressure, and that he needs anger counseling. His maturity could also be brought to question as well. This all simply from viewing the way he spoke, his mannerisms, and his actions in the games played.

fickle forge
cinder thorn
#

Mud? all I know about him is he posts stickers in warrior pvp chat

elfin surge
violet fossil
rancid granite
#

i mean his name says all there is you need to know about him

urban skiff
#

Mid gym session. Help pick my song for my hevy singles

rancid granite
#

primus mix, since we're on the subject

urban skiff
#

That on youtube?

rancid granite
#

everything is on youtube

urban skiff
#

First song is "my name is mud"

#

Is this a meme

rancid granite
urban skiff
#

Sorry but that music is not hype music

#

More like if mud was made into a song about being mud

#

So i guess like pasta that was never cooked, only soaked?

elfin surge
#

i listen to sigma male gym phonk mix for max gains

wheat jay
#

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#

this one?

#

was 1st result

urban skiff
#

With a feminine penis

wheat jay
#

eyo ngl that playlist is fire

elfin surge
#

I have my own playlists

wheat jay
#

polish anthem better be there O_O

urban skiff
#

137 bench let's gooo

boreal veldt
# urban skiff Mid gym session. Help pick my song for my hevy singles

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cinder thorn
#

🤣 @boreal veldt wtf man

boreal veldt
urban skiff
#

Not dead. Just disappointed i couldn't do a double

violet fossil
boreal veldt
cinder thorn
violet fossil
boreal veldt
cinder thorn
#

Yes I'm sure all of Canada contributed

#

😜

rancid granite
#

don't gotta be canadian to realize that she got some banger songs

distant wharf
#

Is arms any good in pre patch?

cinder thorn
distant wharf
#

But fury better?

cinder thorn
#

Fury has been better in the recent past yes but I haven't tested since last update

rancid granite
#

you can still play arms too even if someone says fury is better

#

yeah like D / F tier lol

#

B tier is still bitchin

cinder thorn
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I enjoy both arms and fury happy to seamlessly switch between them

Before prepatch ends I wanna try rogue and monk also just for fun

rancid granite
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i assume they meant they already got nerfed