pvp

[cinder thorn]

Just won 2300 mmr rated blitz as 7vs8 (before game starts) they had 3 ele shamans and we had 1 healer missing whole game

Noobs were crying from start to let enemies 3 cap and end it fast

I told them to fight as I ran off on my own to LH

The team looked at each other and got inspired

It was epic

End of story mode

[hasty pulsar]

that assassination rogue sudden demise so annoying lol

[urban skiff]

This is what we call a learning experience.

[hasty pulsar]

I still going to use slam

my logic is sound

[urban skiff]

Slam is like a gateway drug to wife beating

Or puppy kissing

kicking*

[hasty pulsar]

people telling me to use hamstring (already hamstringing anyway), im over here slamming people for 200k+ crits when i have nothing else to press

[violet fossil]

Just heroic strike

[urban skiff]

You might be pressing X to slam but I'm press X to doubt

[hasty pulsar]

i just dont understand why when you cant ms, exe, or op you would rather hamstring someone instead of doing a possible 200k crit

i mean sure hamstring if needed but sometimes dont need to hamstring (for example when they already hamstrung)

[cinder thorn]

What's your rating?

If you're at high rating using slam then don't listen and keep using it

But if you're not, remove it and see what happens

I started off slamming then I noticed it wasn't worth it

[hasty pulsar]

ok

I guess I just still have not heard a compelling reason to do less damage than I could

like I have never heard anyone actively argue to do less damage.. its kinda weird tbh O_O

[urban skiff]

hamstring now so you don't have to do it later during a more critical time

Of course it's a bit of a meme, if you already have IP on cd, hamstring (or better slow) can't get any more duration and you can't MS EXE OP Rend and you're about to cap rage it can't hurt to slam

In practice it's just so rare that it all lines up that you'll want to worry about any of that

[hasty pulsar]

ok I am removing slam and wont look back. guess im just overthinking it all

[dark topaz]

What are these class changes lmao

[dark topaz]

After following the same advice of removing slam from my bars a few years back i instantly went up in rating

I don't miss pressing it at all, fuck that shit

[sharp meteor]

There were times where it could be pressed, but 95% of the time it was bad.

and the potential gain was just too low to really worry about it

[hasty pulsar]

Ok I realize I am over here looking like I love slam but actually thought it was correct to use it. I dont like it anymore than anyone else

thanks for help all

[urban skiff]

Keep slam on bars. If your opponent can be saved in one global and is within kill range you could miss out on a kill.

Also fury's slam looks sweet a fuck

[hasty pulsar]

omg lol

i just removed it tho

sigh... you make a point tho...

[urban skiff]

Gotta make room for decimation

[hasty pulsar]

back it goes

[urban skiff]

I think what people used to do is castsequence it to ignore pain

So one press ignore pain, second press slam, with a reset timer so it would default back to ignore pain before it comes back up

[hasty pulsar]

i see

like do you have rend bound also?

[urban skiff]

that way you can say it isn't on your bars but then secretly, it really is

[hasty pulsar]

err nvm

[urban skiff]

I'm fury but I do macros that remove thinking

[sharp meteor]

wuh

[urban skiff]

something like this:
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=8 ignore pain, slam

[sharp meteor]

why would u want that

[urban skiff]

Why wouldn't you want slam on your bars just in case?

[rancid granite]

/cast ignore pain /cast overpower

[urban skiff]

it's not in the way, you can't slam unless you already used ignore pain

[sharp meteor]

??

[urban skiff]

I'm confused about your confusion

[violet fossil]

I think ur overthinking it

[sharp meteor]

that's all we do here

we overthink and overcomplicate

[hasty pulsar]

Ok I will never mention slam again

[sharp meteor]

and bind ignore pain into execute or something

[rancid granite]

^ i mention overpower cause bahjeera uses it lmao

'kind of a noob trap but i use it' good enough for me

less keys

to press

[violet fossil]

I’m confused hold on

are you pressing slam because?

nothing else to press?

[rancid granite]

can bind ignore pain to victory rush, overpower, commander shout ... will be np lol

[urban skiff]

like this
#showtooltip
/use [known:6343/772] thunder clap;[noknown:6343,known:772] rend; [noknown:6343/772]taunt

[urban skiff]

bind ignore pain to shield slam

[urban skiff]

I'm pretending to be arms right now

I need someone to go hit the pvp dummy and tell me their biggest crits

Something fucky is going on with it, i'm seeing 500k+ BB crits using 515 weapons

without 4set

ooh wait, it's my s3 2set

[hasty pulsar]

wat is this dude doin hitting me for 500 mil LOL

HE STARTIN TO MAKE ME ANGRY

[urban skiff]

That's a fun bug

[hasty pulsar]

RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[urban skiff]

When fdks hits low level dummies they stack uncapped damage on themselves that they can then unleash. The stacks get cleared on loading screens so they have to do it at acherus and manually fly out with the buff

[hasty pulsar]

its like that shadow priest crap that i encountered the other day

why do i world pvp

[urban skiff]

Because it's fun

at least as prot

[hasty pulsar]

ya it is

[boreal veldt]

reading the patch notes again, i forgot they nerfed arms auto attack damage in pvp lmfaooo

they're reverting it on tuesday but still

[urban skiff]

yea arms got a lot of pvp specific nerfs

warrior cliffnotes:

wait what

what what

oh nevermind, misread a number. Thought Troar was no longer reduced by 70% in pvp but it's only reduced by 7%

[violet fossil]

Is that for PvP?

[urban skiff]

first is all warriors, second is all pvp, third is warrior pvp

[violet fossil]

That’s a chunk to ms

and overpower

[urban skiff]

If you think that's wild, look at prot getting execute damage back

[hasty pulsar]

uhh yeah why they nerf ms and op so much

[violet fossil]

People gonna switch to prot

[hasty pulsar]

wat goin on here

[urban skiff]

I was already hammering big executes before prepatch

[boreal veldt]

its because they moved a bunch of MS and OP damage into hero talents

[hasty pulsar]

oh

[boreal veldt]

if you want your MS damage back youre forced to go colosus

[violet fossil]

how much were they doing in beta?

[boreal veldt]

OP is slayer

[hasty pulsar]

but i rather play slayer

[boreal veldt]

arms was still behind it didn't matter

[violet fossil]

that’s silly then

y the nerf

stamina in PvP is going down too

healing overall got buffed

[urban skiff]

If any bigboy arms feels like hitting the dummy for a few minutes, I want to know how big your biggest MS/EXE crits are with cds

[urban skiff]

so far behind they gave all warriors a big aura buff to damage, like 20 or 30%

kind of wild it's not in the notes, did we already get it in the first prepatch patch?

[boreal veldt]

yeah the 30% was 11.0.1

[urban skiff]

ah

I don't understand why they have to aurabuff the entire class when they could make battle/zerker stance give +30% strength

just build the aura buff into the class at that point

[hasty pulsar]

are healers gonna still be unkillable gods or wat

[urban skiff]

in battlegrounds? Yes

[hasty pulsar]

is that just how it will always be in pvp

[urban skiff]

The trick is you aren't supposed to kill them

[hasty pulsar]

like is that what people want

[violet fossil]

healing got buffed overall

so maybe but

[boreal veldt]

S1 looking like a dampening hellscape

[violet fossil]

stamina keeps getting nerfed

[violet fossil]

it was already like that

[urban skiff]

In RBGs you don't kill healers. You harass them so they can never ever recover mana. Keep them from mounting up or running away. That's a permanent -100% healing done for all team fights

I'm going to make that my focus in S1 solo bgs as prot and fury

[wheat jay]

Who knows

Hard to gauge from beta

Cuz things will change

[boreal veldt]

[violet fossil]

in beta*

[wheat jay]

Build and rotations will be optimized

People will do more dmg

[violet fossil]

Im just hoping we don’t have to farm pve trinkets or something

[urban skiff]

Yea I don't worry about damage / healing ratio in S1

[violet fossil]

although still get a stat buff

[wheat jay]

Who knows, we'll see xD

[urban skiff]

that will literally never happen ever again after they made the pvp trinket set

Plus trinkets are by default nerfed 75% in pvp

[violet fossil]

ur right i forgor

still only 12% main stat and 5% stamina

[boreal veldt]

that nyalotha trink was still a fun gimick

[wheat jay]

Maybe well have some nice slower paced season

Instead of being 100% fhen suddenly whole partty drops to 10% cuz lock did two casts and rogue is spamming fan of knives...

[dense herald]

those r pve nerfs

which apply to pvp

so idk

[wheat jay]

Cuz pvp has separate modifiers

Thats why

And because pvp is played by like 5% of the wow population

[urban skiff]

i prefer slow pace, unfortunately it favours non-warrior

[dense herald]

almost no1 in my guild plays pvp

[wheat jay]

Depends on tuning

Warr is by design a damp spec

[wheat jay]

My guildies do 1800, one did 2100 with me

[boreal veldt]

most priests and dks in my guild at least went to 1800 when they had BiS mogs in pvp

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz thats what pvp is

You need to gauge your willingness to grind for certain reward

If its elite set, you go for 1800 and dip

If you really like the illusion, you go for 2100

Most don't care even about elite sets

[boreal veldt]

man i really fumbled that shadowflame illulu

actually after crunching numbers ms is actually buffed

since crushing force was changed to +10% MS damage and all arms damage is no longer reduced by 13%

[urban skiff]

Depends on how our uptime will be. They took away a lot of mobility and gave mages infinite roots

[wheat jay]

Your kit is that of a damp spec

Warrior is disruption spec by design

Intervene, disarm, stuns, rally, aoe fear, war banner, duel

Spec exists to keep others alive

You win by outliving, assuming enemy can shut your dmg down

[urban skiff]

Can only disrupt if we can connect. The worse uptime the less the rest of the kit matters

[wheat jay]

Which at higher rating they can

[wheat jay]

Your only disruption tool that needs connection is disarm

[urban skiff]

And ms/sharpen

[wheat jay]

Ms sharpen is not disruption

Disarm is, intervene is, war banner is, duel is

[sharp meteor]

hitting somebody so hard they're panicking is disruption

[urban skiff]

If every sharpen ms is met with target walking out then it has zero value. We're a dampen spec/class because of our strong ms effects on both arms and fury

[wheat jay]

We aint talking about 1200

[sharp meteor]

tempo is always important

[wheat jay]

Which is shared by every comp, so no

You are damp because your kit allows you to keep your teammates alive

[urban skiff]

Huh? We're the only class with ms above 25%

[wheat jay]

Conditionally higher, not perma

Lets take turbo or retwarr as example

[urban skiff]

if you have 25% permanent and 25% of the time you have 50% then you effectively have 31.5% ms effect

[wheat jay]

You win because you live every single go and trade cds well

[wheat jay]

You can't apply it like that to pvp...

[sharp meteor]

hmm turbo high output but also kind of go based

[urban skiff]

The things that dampen favour is effects that ignore the dampen effect for you and worsen the dampen effect for the opposing team. The goal in dampen is to create a wider gap on who it affects.

[wheat jay]

Its the most damp comp of warr historically

[urban skiff]

That means immunities or pseudo immunities so the damage you take doesn't require healing

[sharp meteor]

ehhh

[urban skiff]

Like our parry

[sharp meteor]

u dont rly play it as damp

[urban skiff]

And mortal strike effects that means the enemy team is fighting deeper in dampen than us

[wheat jay]

You don't need to play as damp to be a damp comp kennie

[urban skiff]

Again, this is math being math

[sharp meteor]

extend game as turbo just killed by splay or retwarr in damp

[wheat jay]

Damp comp is a comp that is getting stronger and stronger the higher damp goes

[sharp meteor]

ehhhh

[wheat jay]

You don't get super bonus to your gameplay playing sub rogue rmp

[sharp meteor]

idk if it's that cut and dry

as it depends on meta matchup and w/e

[wheat jay]

You do as retwarr or turvo

[sharp meteor]

wha

[wheat jay]

Obviously, but warr is amazing for damp and thrives there

Cuz of your kit

[urban skiff]

100%, but it's important to understand why to better use it

[sharp meteor]

started winning a lot more last seas when we decided to just kill teams

[wheat jay]

Cuz you stop goes, stopping goes is most important in damp

And warr does that very well

[dense herald]

Why did we have to get nerfed

We were good but we werent meta i dont think (in beta)

[boreal veldt]

i'm still blown away cyclone continues to go untouched

pun intended

[dense herald]

HUH

When were these nerfs added

Armored to the teeth no longer incresed by 45%

Rip

[wheat jay]

Some time ago

Those are not new

Its a compilation of changes from last few weeks

[urban skiff]

They nerfed all % based healing because they buffed stamina at level 80

If they didn't do that it would translate to buffing our damage mitigation = more relative survivability

[dense herald]

I was watching the supatese video im more concerened about ARMORED TO THE TEEETH AND EXECUTE GOT NERFED????????????

[urban skiff]

you know how armor goes up by crazy?

[dense herald]

This like 2 days old video

[urban skiff]

Yeah that's why they did that

[dense herald]

But execute got nerfed man

[urban skiff]

execute damage was shifted to hero talents

Iirc slayer got it

[dense herald]

I think im gonna start being classic andy

Gonna wait for s3 classic

[rancid granite]

better to nerf ahead of time in beta so it has time to get rebuffed for release

like ele's overtuned right now right? watch they'll be B or C tier on release

[spice hornet]

Ayo ping me when warrior isn't C tier in TWW

tired of playing a C- tier class all of DF

[rancid granite]

bet your skill level is D tier so it makes it look C- tier

https://tenor.com/view/do-better-gif-17380341619006338363

[wheat jay]

Owned

Absolutely rekt

[lost needle]

ladies and gents we can make it

[small grove]

this spec is so fucking garbage in BGs right now, and BGB is even more garbage

I'm rerolling or uninstalling this is unbearable

[rancid granite]

c u

[fickle forge]

Bro is flipping over prepatch

[visual nova]

Single ele shaman can wipe a team in pre patch

Alot different come beta

[night bone]

does anyone know some good talents for fury warrior for pvp

[violet fossil]

y u tripping

[fallen estuary]

Goku chill tf out lmao its prepatch

Everythings balanced for 80

[cinder thorn]

Slaughterhouse is must unless another heal debugf on your team

Battlefield command

3rd one up to you depending who you face

[cinder thorn]

1. It's prepatch, they're balancing things out

2. Despite us sucking right now multiple people reached 2000 rating and avove in both rated solo arena and bg using arms and fury

3. If your aim is to melt people go make an ele shaman but within a week or two they'll tune them down and tune us up a little

So either play shaman, take a break or quit

Or you can be positive and keep playing our hard to play class so when they tune us up you reck people

[small grove]

They aren't balancing anything. They just lazily implemented it and aren't going to fix it and busted classes in both directions, making this game mode almost unplayable and extermely unenjoyable for 3 weeks.

And yeah big whoop, 2k is easy when shit isn't completely busted, I already had 2k in SS. Getting 1800 in BGB is fucking impossible because I can't control 7 other lemmings - I know you love to stroke your dick in here because I guess you've spammed enough games to get 2k but it's a fucking miserable experience.

You can go on block too for all I care

[sharp meteor]

Hourly reminder that it's pre-patch.

[cinder thorn]

OK ill block you since you're negative, ignoring everyone's advice, and as you stated you don't care. Bye

[urban skiff]

slaughterhouse is a must always once we're in full TWW. It will no longer be removed by other MS effects so instead of going 0%->12% -> 24% -> 36% -> 0% you'll now see 25%->25%->25%->36%->25%

assuming equal uptime (I know it won't be) you go from avg 15% ms effect to 27% ms effect

[umbral crater]

how much better is fury than arms rn

[fierce elm]

about 3.50

[urban skiff]

Depends on how you like fun

What talents in fury tree can i most easily give up to get meat cleaver?

[thick reef]

Relax champ it’s just prepatch 😄

[torpid aspen]

am i cooked or is arms dogwater in blitz

[fierce elm]

why do I always miss night blowups

[fierce elm]

you arent

[torpid aspen]

its so fucking bad lol

other classes press 2 buttons and do insane dmg

[fickle forge]

Bro has that rogue mental fragility

[violet fossil]

it’s Prepatch

ur good

just wait

til tww

[urban skiff]

Read the pin

[dense herald]

Bro i got 2.1k in 4 days of playing blitz bg as warrior,of course they arent gonna balance prepatch its prepatch,why would they waste resources on off season when they could be making the game better for launch

Prepatch has never been balanced,because the classes are runed for the next expansion

Once you get lvl 80 even without any changes the meta will change

[urban skiff]

100% they won't reset mmr from prepatch, and getting it high now will be beneficial in the start of the season to get ahead of the chaff.

But you don't need good balance to win BGB. It's mostly understanding the meta game and knowing when to brawl and when to run off.

[dense herald]

i mean i won against a team of 4 ele shamans when we had 1 or 0 idr

its about strat

[elfin surge]

all the cata warriors have started to copy my gear

[fickle forge]

Why would anyone copy an AWC competitor smh

[elfin surge]

im just full strength gem ignoring socket bonuses

everyone else stacked resil like a bitch

[wheat jay]

From what we've seen on cata awc everyone dies in the opener, so might as well go full dmg and 0 defense xD

[elfin surge]

im powerful

[fickle forge]

I wonder why you died like a bitch in the tourny

[plush sequoia]

what is the best crafted gear for fury in pvp? also is there a way to get pvp tier pieces?

i mean for beta retail

[elfin surge]

hyper aggro playstyles dont work in awc

[lavish quest]

Should have made it work

[fickle forge]

Copium

Didn't you make top 6 or so?

[elfin surge]

ya

i did better than any other war and i dont even play classic

this ones gold tho

AAAAAAA is dekel losing in offline lower bracket

funny how he shit talks retail players but gets knocked out of the tourny by 3 retail players who dont play classic

[fickle forge]

Weird how that works huh

[fierce elm]

MUD washed up

[lavish quest]

He is now MID

[wheat jay]

just wait for warr to be s tier again

man's getting 5 r1s

i dunno i think the best part of that was how mad people got over it XD

venruki and others making fuckton of tweets and videos about it too

[dense herald]

[dense herald]

Youre funny

[lavish quest]

Why would they care? Lol

[wheat jay]

they got MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

cuz mud got 5 r1 titles iirc

[lavish quest]

In 1 season?

[wheat jay]

yes

or 6

@elfin surge was it 5 or 6?

[elfin surge]

5

my team took 12 spots

[wheat jay]

@lavish quest thats why they got mad hahaha

[elfin surge]

he hasnt seen the vid?

[wheat jay]

i dont think he did

[lavish quest]

Let him have them, no one plays this shiet class

Nope. I didn't learn of you like mid s2. DF

[elfin surge]

damn u missed the best content then

SL mud streams were the best

[lavish quest]

I pve lorded SL s1, got my first cutting edge then quit the expac. First time I had ever quit wow tbh lol

[lavish quest]

SL was

[wheat jay]

👍

[wheat jay]

yep

sl was your peak

will we ever see similar things?

time will tell

[lavish quest]

Nah he doesn't play anymore

Now's my time to take 5 R1s

[elfin surge]

if the game is fun lol

[lavish quest]

[elfin surge]

i plan to go hard s1 tww tho

[wheat jay]

you barely get 2400 in shuffle tho

[elfin surge]

streams and guides again

[fierce elm]

For like one patch

then get burnt out

[lavish quest]

On my rise

[fierce elm]

then not appear until next expansion

[elfin surge]

probably lol

[fierce elm]

I know how this works lmao

[wheat jay]

life cycle of wow

[lavish quest]

Did it half the rounds it took you

[wheat jay]

spam for a season

take a break

rinse repeat

[lavish quest]

😎

[fierce elm]

Gonna relax this season

[elfin surge]

they kinda ruined arms imo

[wheat jay]

pve for me

[fierce elm]

They kinda shat on ret 😦

[elfin surge]

[fierce elm]

rip dl

dk

[lavish quest]

It's fine, we're all fury mains now

[fierce elm]

rip ret

rip arms

[elfin surge]

[fierce elm]

Time to reroll

[wheat jay]

dh apparently dogshit

survi apparently dogshit 😦

all will come down to tuning tho

[fierce elm]

Ret is like B tier or something probably rn lmao

Is fine

[elfin surge]

i bet theres going to be tuning before the season starts and 1 week into the season

[fierce elm]

Woah no way

[lavish quest]

If you want to be good you have to play a 30 yr old virgin

[wheat jay]

as always ye

[fierce elm]

so like every xpansion

[lavish quest]

Eerrr I mean wizard

[wheat jay]

also checkthis

i can just do m+ boosts

get gold cap or two

play with lontar

[elfin surge]

[fierce elm]

I mean you already boosted

so not much difference

[wheat jay]

real

[lavish quest]

Look at the bright side. Your spec doesn't have to be good arena. Now it needs to be good in bgs

[wheat jay]

secret is to get better players to coach you

worked for me

[fierce elm]

I should probs get the 1800 outta the way

[wheat jay]

2100 ez for illusion

[lavish quest]

That's right. MUD and I are queuing lumberjack cleave next expac.

Trust

[wheat jay]

but mud was boosted by uglybaldbaby

[lavish quest]

Such is the cycle

I've got my mud mog ready to go

[elfin surge]

the 🐐

[wheat jay]

uglybaldbaby > shanex

[lavish quest]

Old guildies shocked I now have all of the warriors.
No wonder they're old guildies, didn't know me very well apparently.

[rancid granite]

do you actively play them all too

[forest thicket]

anyone got pvp builds?

[rancid granite]

murlok io still the go-to

[forest thicket]

I see

[lavish quest]

No, all but 3 are stuck in mop remix

[rancid granite]

super buff irl or really compensating

:D

[lavish quest]

No race swap in barber shop, we work around lmao

[rancid granite]

maybe you're just simple minded

SMASH THE BEETLES

[lavish quest]

Master the basics

https://tenor.com/view/wiking-viking-słowianin-słowianie-slowianie-gif-22100178

[rancid granite]

respect

[tribal holly]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stare-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-shocked-wide-eye-gif-14648637

@fierce elm

[bitter topaz]

Arms warr question: Should I only do Executes with 40+ Rage, or just mash it despite being at 20 rage?

[wheat jay]

afro twitching and cowering atm

[tribal holly]

Its a such an funny image i cant help myself

[elfin surge]

[boreal veldt]

Don't worry about full rage executes, it's only like a 5% difference

5% Source: I'm just guessing.

[tribal holly]

Do you watch people in the eyes when you speak to them?

[elfin surge]

[tribal holly]

Answer the question

@elfin surge

[tribal holly]

I take that as a no?

[elfin surge]

ya i look right into their soul

[rancid granite]

MUD ain't even looking at you in the e-eyes

[elfin surge]

[hot solstice]

has anybody had their mouse looking speed changed after prepatch?

[fickle forge]

How much strength should I have as arms in TWW S3?

[wheat jay]

if you had a banner on your back

and you faced a skinny rogue

irl

would you look them in the eyes while talking

uglybaldbaby is behind you for moral support

[dense herald]

Whats the strat priority for midnight s2 for arms?

[sharp meteor]

Missing her

back when arms felt like a real spec

[amber heron]

@elfin surge

FUCK U

never post bad about the miestro ever again

you absolute swine

Your only saving grace is that you are a warrior and not a fucking pussy mage

[fickle forge]

@elfin surge
FUCK U
never post bad about the miestro ever again
you absolute swine
Your only saving grace is that you are a warrior and not a fucking pussy mage

[rancid granite]

i was half afk and got ganked by an ice mage so hard that my ghost-mount back to my corpse went at like 5% speed

😭

[amber heron]

@fickle forge fuck man so refreshing to see somoene w a brain

@rancid granite I main whatever class destroys mages

and then i throw the rounds where Im with them in solo que

Thats how much I hate mages

I like to see a mage go 0-6

it makes me like high

[rancid granite]

it just made me wanna destroy a mage on warrior even more

how? i havent thought of it yet

stock up on some grenades and change up my spec

🤞

ill hire a rogue to follow me around

[tribal holly]

[rancid granite]

will that just annoy them into walking away

sounds fun though lol

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

wtf

wack mog

[lavish quest]

Even more wack pet name for this situation

[wheat jay]

lol

[lavish quest]

Should mention this is a DK so the pet name was random 😛

[dense herald]

btw

did dk get nerfed

i wanted to play dk

someone here played prot warror

is this him

[cinder thorn]

Omg gnomes look so trash

[sharp meteor]

That's me.

[dense herald]

kennie dis prot u

?

[cinder thorn]

Disproportionate head size, unrealistic weapon stats compared to their size

[sharp meteor]

Nah, I've never seen him.

There's only a very small handful of people who play Protection in any capacity, lmao.

[dense herald]

fuck you mage

i killed him

[tribal holly]

You can keep up with them when they try to kite you

[fierce elm]

Late is bullying me

help

[idle falcon]

any warrior pvp guides

fury

doing some arena fun

[tribal holly]

[dense herald]

@cinder thorn @cinder thorn @cinder thorn

mf

is this u

[cinder thorn]

Yes!

Who are u

[dense herald]

if you beat me ill never forget u

arxnamus from enemy team

[cinder thorn]

Ok

[dense herald]

@cinder thorn fuck you cheated

[cinder thorn]

I won noob

[idle falcon]

lmao

[dense herald]

you almost lost with getting the healing buff

@cinder thorn rekt

fuck i am losing every game today

[lavish quest]

I'm hearing a skill issue

[cinder thorn]

I unstealthed you then beat your ass handsomely @dense herald

Now you keep your word and never forget

[dense herald]

you took the healing thing

thats literally like a fuill healthbar

so i almost beat 2 of u

[cinder thorn]

Err, and you weren't taking it because

Skill issue?

[dense herald]

thats not how a duel works

you disrespected hte makgora

gnome player

you should race switch to gnome

wait what race r u i didnt see

[cinder thorn]

Who said we duel, we in BG, 1v1

Buff comes up, I'm aware of it you're not

[dense herald]

ok man

[cinder thorn]

Human

Gg though

[dense herald]

i am not saying gg to cheater

[cinder thorn]

It was pure luck I went to enemy base that had you

And I saw were you stealthy

To unstealth you I used bladestorm so it was not ideal opening

So don't give me duel crap you were stealthed

[dense herald]

i was alttabbing while u got me out lol

[cinder thorn]

Yeah yeah

Was good to see u though

Fix ur name here otherwise I'll forget if I see u again

Oh ur using ashkandur just realised

I'm in regular pvp gear

Wait and fyralath

Bastard

I still beat u

[dense herald]

ffs

another bg im losiung

[fierce elm]

rolled

[dense herald]

my asskandur didnt proc and my fyralath did 0.6% damage,and u took a whole healing buff

bro if i lose another one im thinking about quitting till expac release

[rancid granite]

lol

just spam death wish then there's no dps issues np

[dense herald]

fuck this game

im quitting

ive lost like 10 rbgs in a row

[fierce elm]

lmao

tilted

[boreal veldt]

[cinder thorn]

Can I have your Fyralath?

[dense herald]

i cant trade it,i have 2 of those thingies that make ur fyralath quest go faster if u get it tho

[cinder thorn]

Just joking man

Don't quit, need good warriors

I'm not into pve, happy with the conquest swords

[dense herald]

i went from 2.1k rating to 2k rating in 1 day

[cinder thorn]

It's OK, it happens

[dense herald]

im on a 30% winrate

cause of today

i was on a positive winrate yday or the day b4

[lavish quest]

Is he a good warrior if he's losing all the time?

😉

[rancid granite]

gotta start somewhere ok

if he's in the process of getting buff he's basically buff already

also Rad is a healer main at heart i can tell

wholesome

[cinder thorn]

He is good he almost beat me

Even though he has both ashkandur and fyralath but still

[dense herald]

you fucking cheated

[dense herald]

healer mains arent so calm

healer mains dont give out motivational quotes

[rancid granite]

...pve healer mains?

had flashbacks to the healers in solo shuffle u right

lol

[small grove]

Cringe - you're literally 1/16th of the game. Maybe you're in MMR where people aren't wearing PvE gear and just ghosting nodes but you can't be in multiple places at once

[rancid granite]

didn't you quit and uninstall

nothing is more cringe than when people use the word cringe where it doesn't belong, either

[amber heron]

even with 5 stacks of deathwish I dont get top dps

in solo shuffle

thats the crazy part

[rancid granite]

rad was just being a good dude; that's not cringe that's just the dude being lovely

yeah i haven't bothered solo shuffle on warrior prepatch only bgb lol

seems a lot more rough in 2v2/3v3

[wheat jay]

If people do that then easy win

Play for objectives yourself

[cinder thorn]

Me and Seif ripping up the noobs in rbg blitz just now

It's weird though his sword had some electricity thing around it I wonder what that is

[wheat jay]

Illusion from s1

[lavish quest]

Healers are more vile than us, even in pve

[dense herald]

My last game there were ppl with pve gear

[sharp meteor]

parsing on bots with pve gear is fun

and yeah team based game sometimes team is the problem

sort of like how sometimes you're the problem, or at least not the solution

[hybrid socket]

Hey war fam, I left a few weeks ago when the "armor bug" was a thing. Felt pretty weak in pvp. Is that still the case?

[visual nova]

Like the increase armor across the board?

[hybrid socket]

Yeah

I heard it really made warrior unviable right now

Because of armor scaling for level 80 being implemented

[limber relic]

xdd

[lavish quest]

It will be a thing until we're 80 in the next expac. Enjoy

They ain't gonna hot fix it when they gotta get the expac ready and prepatch is irrelevant.

[violet fossil]

what’s the armor bug?

[sharp meteor]

Idk if it's a bug.

Just adjusted values assuming we're max level.

So right now we levelers/twinks we have 65-85% armor

which makes physical dps specs bad until 80 at which point we huge again.

[violet fossil]

that’s what I figured he was talking about

[dense herald]

Its not a bug

Its just tww scaling

[lavish quest]

Well 80% phys reduction certainly ain't the intended experience. I hope anyways

[rancid granite]

training mode

we wearing extra weighted clothes like goku

[dense herald]

Its 60-70%

I have 65% armor as warrior

[lavish quest]

No wonder you losin, need to bump up your gear

😉

[dense herald]

I have bis armor

[limber relic]

kekw

[left lark]

those don't count

[lavish quest]

Don't mean to flex but

[fierce elm]

yo sick

[lavish quest]

The git a life build going hard

[wheat jay]

Touch grass meta build

[rancid granite]

thats the mog farming build

some of these mounts are so much more bs than silly pre-patch balance

[lavish quest]

I was playing volleyball last evening/night

Though that was more touching sand than grass, only if the ball went too far was I touching grass

Time before that was a killer time with a few lads with a killer meal

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/985520109487538247/1271658859156475934/20240808_173354.jpg?ex=66b8ccda&is=66b77b5a&hm=6ee76d968ebbdc66fb60ddf4d040b9f6296a9e043b7e01f7c81fc72c63aa631d&=&format=webp&width=1023&height=1365

[fierce elm]

that looks amazing the fuark

[lavish quest]

Friend is a chef

Think a head chef tbh

Invited me, another friend of his, and a neighbor of his, and we just had a great night, chattin, eating, drinking, and well two of them smoked cigars lol

[rancid granite]

damn that looks good

im in my cutting phase so it definitely looks extra good atm

i love the duality of the energy here

some people raging so hard on prepatch and nerfs and some people livin life havin a good time

[lavish quest]

Be on the right side of history

[fierce elm]

only true addicts play the game rn

[elfin surge]

😎

[lavish quest]

Nah, I'm a true addict and I ain't even doing that

[fierce elm]

If you get so upset about wow during pre-patch you probably need to take more showers

im just saying

[lavish quest]

Yeah MUD

Jeez

[fierce elm]

MUD is appropriate here

[lavish quest]

Call him a mage main, instantly upset

[wheat jay]

Wtf

That's mad good looking

[lavish quest]

I can assure you, it was mad good

[wheat jay]

I mean I'm having this now

After mowing the lawn

[fierce elm]

the fuck IS THAT

[lavish quest]

I was secretly hoping you'd send a picture of ramon or something, would have been fuckin funny

[wheat jay]

Yesterday's dumplings

Thrown on a pan with some butter and some spices

Cottage cheese and mashed potatoes inside

[wheat jay]

Not a fan of ramen ngl

Maybe I just never had an actually good one

[fierce elm]

poland spotted

[wheat jay]

Real

[lavish quest]

I mean.. ramon's ight. At least if you talkin about the cheap cups at a store. I've probably never had a real nice cup.

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm ngl I think you'd like it

Especially the freshly boiled ones, with some nicely cooked onion on butter

[fierce elm]

yeah no

not enough MEAT

[wheat jay]

God tier food

[lavish quest]

Chef bro also essentially just does the carnivore diet, which is why the platter is mainly meat. Which is no complaints on my end

[wheat jay]

Niiiiice

[lavish quest]

Yeah a couple weeks ago, we went to a korean bbq, that was a ton of meat as well 😂

Tried raw beef. Surprisingly, it was good.

[rancid granite]

WoW is surprisingly a fun game with a lot to do outside of pvp 😛

[fierce elm]

that is true

addict

[rancid granite]

watching tv: 👎
watching tv while doing a loop every 20mins to look for a mount spawn: 👍

[lavish quest]

We ain't talking about the people doing other thing. We talking about the people spam asking for builds or talking about blitz 😛

[rancid granite]

JUST ONE MORE MOUNT AND ILL BE DONE i swear

[fierce elm]

ADDICT

[lavish quest]

TOUCH GRASS

Only a couple weeks left to

Then we GRIND

[fierce elm]

I mean launch patch gets released next reset

then it might be worth to test a couple of things out

[lavish quest]

Touch grass

[dense herald]

So with ur guys motivation

I got back into bgs

And i won my first bg of the dah

Day

And i got 2 fucking rating

[bleak wharf]

Hello everyone, I know 2s doesn't seem to be the most interesting for people here but I think it's pretty fun after several months of absence. A friend would like to play a healer with me.

Can I tell him to play any class (since we want to play around 2k2/2k4) or is there a heal to absolutely avoid?

[lavish quest]

Well yeah, what did you expect, you went on a 10 loss streak

[dense herald]

It wasnt 10 games but ye was big

[fierce elm]

There are no healers to avoid right now

[lavish quest]

Ye, so your MMR was prob way lower than your CR

So you get no rating till you grind it back up

[fierce elm]

we are moving into a new expansion so we don't know the meta game until it launches

and we get to testing

at this point rdruid is looking amazing

but that can change whenever

[bleak wharf]

Oh ok I thought the meta wasn't going to change too much compared to what we have at the moment!
So it's a bet !

Thanks for your answer!

[fierce elm]

The meta is going to giga-change

We are receiving weekly buffs and nerfs right now

and will probably recieve more tuning after TWW launches

So yeah

Pick a healer he enjoys and it will probably be the most fun

[dense herald]

Its always changing,like arms was doing 50% of ppls hp in a hit then got nerfed,but mages root still doesnt dr

So yeah

[bleak wharf]

Yeah sure ! I just wanted to avoid a combination without synergy ! But like you say, we might as well have fun and we'll see what the future has in store for us. 🪓

[dense herald]

I keep getting fucked over by blizzard bugs

First i lost 150 rating in ss few months ago cuz i got tpd out of ss outside my will

Now i enter solo shuffle my game crashes,i log back in the game is going on but ik not in it

Im not in the bg,so my team is playing without me

[urban skiff]

wish TSM wasn't so weird

Somehow a 49k gain is a negative profit

[lavish quest]

Profit is your profit - your expenses

[boreal veldt]

blitz is fun is pretty good motivation for me

[lavish quest]

Doesn't count gold you loot or are traded etc

It just tracks your sales vs buys

[urban skiff]

Right

I started at 874, i ended at 924

Profit is a negative number somehow

expenses a positive one. Something's wrong with the screen

[lavish quest]

Again, if you gained gold through means that are not sales

It would not count it as sales

Thus, you sales number would be smaller.

You've spent more gold buying things than made selling things, all it means

[urban skiff]

I did not. Only sales

[lavish quest]

Do you have it set to a certain timespan like in the last week or month or something?

[urban skiff]

yea

it's just full overview regardless of zoom?

[lavish quest]

I think it should adjust to the timeframe you set

[urban skiff]

yea, i just checked and it does. It's like it just calculates it all wrong

[cinder thorn]

I'm trying DK out, it just doesn't feel so UMPH as the warrior

And there's some downtime when you use all runes and have to wait for them

Not used to that

[urban skiff]

UHDK is like starting a jet engine. Lots of levers to switch and waiting around for things to get moving before you can step up the speed

[cinder thorn]

Frost also

[urban skiff]

Frost is like HIIT

Sprint walk sprint walk sprint walk

[cinder thorn]

And it has like 100 cooldowns to blow for each go

[urban skiff]

yea i guess that too

[cinder thorn]

I so far have failed to find a good alternative to warrior

It seems like I have to continue the ownage, meat chopping story of the warrior

[urban skiff]

I'm going to supplement my warriors with enh shaman, aug evoker, and fistweaver

[lavish quest]

Whenever I play UH I feel like I can't spend the resources fast enough lol

Dunno how you hitting downtime

[cinder thorn]

I tried fist, sux

Shaman I don't play since you can't play normal human and that's only race I play

Evoker same reason

[fierce elm]

swap ret

pussy

[lavish quest]

Simp

[urban skiff]

Sorry, that's fucking sad

[cinder thorn]

How? Maybe it's because I'm still leveling and haste is low?

I am often waiting for runes to popup

[urban skiff]

there are so many cool races and only playing human is just..

[fierce elm]

I get it

[lavish quest]

Are you also spending your runic power?

[fierce elm]

He is roleplaying himself

but a really muscular man

in game

immersion

[urban skiff]

Normally I think people can play as they want to but i think you're really missing out and I feel sad for you

[lavish quest]

Nah, human male warrior, peak wow class/race combos

[fierce elm]

I just wanna play kul tiran paladin but paladin has LORE RESTRICTIONS

[cinder thorn]

Of course, maybe I'm spamming outbreak too much

[lavish quest]

You just press that to keep the dot up, dunno why you'd spam it

[urban skiff]

1 hundo

[lavish quest]

So only press it like every 30s

[lavish quest]

Uther said no fatties back in the day

Sorry

[cinder thorn]

I mean spam it to spread dot

[lavish quest]

If you press it when they're grouped up it goes on all of them at once anyways

Everything around the target gets aids too

[rancid granite]

when the hell did this happen

[fierce elm]

way back dood

[urban skiff]

A while ago

[urban skiff]

Heard we might see gloves soon too

[fierce elm]

Which would be sick

[rancid granite]

awesome :D

[fierce elm]

can finally go one without and one with

[lavish quest]

Kinda hard to make that kratos mog

[dense herald]

Kultirans are fat humans,and humans can play paladin so why not kultiran

[fierce elm]

thats what im saying

[lavish quest]

No fatties dood

I explained this

[urban skiff]

KThumans aren't even fat

They're almost all muscle and they lack the tissue that separates abs

No I'm not coping. You're coping

Guys I don't think I'll hit 2m before TWW

how do i handle these complex feelings of not starting expansion with enough gold?

[fierce elm]

spend money on tokens

[lavish quest]

Just make it at the start of the expac

[fierce elm]

win game

also that lmao

now is the worst time to make gold

best time is finding some shitty fucking thing start of expansion

[lavish quest]

Start of SL I made like 5 m in the first month

In the first week I made a mil just buying ore off AH and turning it into bars and then selling the bars

People so dumb/lazy

Spent like an hour or two just spam buying, running to mailbox, run to anvil, craft, post, repeat

Sold faster than I could make em

[rancid granite]

^ i bought all your shit yesterday

[urban skiff]

it's like 400k for a token

[rancid granite]

had to get my engineering up to par

[urban skiff]

I much prefer just working a few extra hours selling foot pics

[lavish quest]

I haven't done it since start of SL lmao

I didn't start DF till a couple weeks in with how bad SL was, I was skeptical to come back

But then I saw things weren't so bad

[wheat jay]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

interesting

i remember making like 6mil gold some time ago crafting items

was in shadowlands

people bought a lot of them

for leveling or alts

tww ill either get some low effort crafting/selling

or do m+ boosts full blast

[lavish quest]

This was like first few days kind of a deal. And it was only the one day, even through the couple hours I did the profits started to dry up with other idiots taking the price. Once that happened, I went back to leveling or end game shit, I forget at what point I did it

I should prob just do M+ boosts tbh. Sounds easier than actually trying to PvP

[wheat jay]

same shit with crafting items

but was very abusable for a while

my guildies started day1

full time

max rat style

and they made like 3 gold caps each xD

in few days

or weeks

[lavish quest]

At the start I was making like 100-200g per bar

Just basic bitch bars

No ranking up needed, just learn mining and get to smelting basically

Sold like hot cakes

#thedream

[wheat jay]

10k per item or more man

;D

[lavish quest]

Yeah... but I don't think how quick and easy it was to snap to dem bars

[wheat jay]

fam

you didnt put them all up

you did 3 items of each

legs

etc

and if someone cut you

you insta put another 3, one copper cheaper

EZ

[lavish quest]

Pshhh, either way. I can't complain in about making an uber easy 1 mil in like an hour or two

[wheat jay]

real hahaa

boosting at the start of a season is mad profitable tho

especially start of expansion

few mil a day EZ profit

[lavish quest]

I just find it motivate myself to do that. Especially now that you have to at least make it look like you're doing it as "guildies"

[cinder thorn]

What do you mean

[lavish quest]

Ever since gallywix blizz doesn't like the doing it as a discord corporation basically.

So they'll ban you for that.
Tho people still do it

Cuz blizz would have to explicitly know yall are doing it that way

So they okayed it being done as like a small scale guild group kind of a deal, but not a massive optimized community kind of thing

[wheat jay]

You make it look like you're boosting with guildies

Aaaaaaand then theres pvp boosting

Where people charge like 400-1000k gold per hour

[rancid granite]

what is there to do with all that gold lol

i guess you can pay to reg which is neat

or in my case afford repairs and swapping transmogs constantly

[lavish quest]

There's big gold sinks in this game lul

I have like 6 mil, I could buy the last warbank tab. But it would hurt my soul a lil

(Last tab is 2.5m for you brokies)

[rancid granite]

i have 2k total

had to do the dang wq daily to finish my engineering up on my alt

i'll tell you one thing it's highly embarrassing yet empowering to be a tank, mid dungeon, asking for gold to repair

dps cant do that

[dense herald]

@lavish quest could you help a brother out and lend some gold

[wheat jay]

Tbh world quests are enough for mogs, repairs, all the other shit

And enchants gems

More than enough

[rancid granite]

so damn burned out of them by s4 though

[lavish quest]

One, you're EU filth right?

Two, I'm greedy

[dense herald]

Youre calling eu filth kekw

Take a look on your country

(Im assuming ur usa)

[lavish quest]

Oh, we're a clown show

But I'm here so... I even it out a bit

[wheat jay]

Three, you're a bitch

[dense herald]

TRUE

[lavish quest]

I am neither female, nor a dog, believe it or not

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-gif-25362459

idk looks exactly like u leland

[sharp meteor]

war bank last tab so utterly useless

current gold sinks are like the beetle

the various old mounts like spider

or antorus mech thing

or tcg if somebody has like

actual gold

honorable mention to bmah

[lavish quest]

Adorable

[lavish quest]

You say that till you have a ton of stuff

[sharp meteor]

nah

it'll really

never be worth it

like ever

[rancid granite]

the very few that are crazy collectors and stuff

[cinder thorn]

Dude things that go in the bank are things you don't need amyway

[sharp meteor]

im a crazy collector and it'll never be worthwhile for me

to dump 2.5m on another warbank slot

[rancid granite]

the crazy-crazy ones 😛

[sharp meteor]

ya thats me

[cinder thorn]

I never had more than 250k

And never needed it

[lavish quest]

I'll just have massive amounts of warbound gear and mats

[cinder thorn]

As long as my gear is enchanted for pvp that's all I need

[sharp meteor]

even people who are making insane bank with profs

probs couldnt justify another slot

its just so stupid

and doesn't even give achi points

might as well just be called token bait for people with ocd or something

[urban skiff]

look what i found in my bags, genuine vanilla pvp gear

original crap

[sharp meteor]

based boomer

[cinder thorn]

You must be as old as me

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-lotr-lord-of-the-tings-lord-elrond-3000years-gif-13229890

When wow came out

And before it, when warcraft 1 was out

[urban skiff]

I was never into warcraft games before WC3

can confirm though that I'm old as shit

So old one of my characters has an illegal name

[wheat jay]

Based

[urban skiff]

made before they locked the name down because it's a boss name

[wheat jay]

I was expecting something different ngl

[fierce elm]

weak

[broken copper]

CAN SOMEONE give the stance macro ?

to change betwen battle en def stance pls

[fierce elm]

CAN SOMEONE

PLEASE

DO THIS

I AM INCAPABLE OF DOING A SIMPLE GOOGLE

OF THE SAME QUESTION I ASKED HERE

CLICKING ON THE TOP RESULT

COPY PASTING THE COMMENT

[dense herald]

U sure u didnt buy it

[fierce elm]

INTO THE GAME

[rancid granite]

the hell is google

[fierce elm]

INSTEAD I MUST ASK IN A DISCORD

CAN SOMEONE please send the link to download battle net

[broken copper]

u cringe af ?

[fierce elm]

lmao

[broken copper]

how old are u ? 12 ?

[fierce elm]

about there

[rancid granite]

he hasn't been the same since Late gave him the stink eye don't mind him

but yeah google has your answers

[fierce elm]

Thats the same thing I said! what the HECK

[rancid granite]

aint nobody reading capslock warriors

[fierce elm]

bigger letters for fury mains

I am kind

[rancid granite]

do you think he's gonna actually google it or do you think he's just gonna ask in every other channel

lmao

[fierce elm]

he might google it

[rancid granite]

bless his soul

[fierce elm]

I have belief

[wheat jay]

afro wasnt cringe hwen he was sf

you really fell from grace man smh

[fierce elm]

hunter mains smh

[wheat jay]

youre a ret

warrior too weak to be warrior

[fierce elm]

At least I am still plate

holy warrior

not bomb spec

[wheat jay]

i am survi hunter, i am warrior with cuddly pet

[fierce elm]

literal mail class

[wheat jay]

yep

[fierce elm]

Unfortunately it looks like it's time to reroll warrior again

[wheat jay]

real

kargish gonna play dk now

EZ

[fierce elm]

TSG inc

they are BUTCHERING my SPEC

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaaaaaan

mine's been shite in 3s for whole expansion now

sooooooooooo ye

[cinder thorn]

I think Afro has a mission to keep this chat for old guard only

Anyone new must feel the full sarcasm force of retribution

[fierce elm]

unfortunately I don't have a pvp queue to lay back in and be the best spec

[fierce elm]

my mission is to keep dudes who can't google simple questions slowly change

and understand that we are happy to answer questions that a quick google search wont answer

[cinder thorn]

Do you get paid by Google though

[wheat jay]

he is right tho

[fierce elm]

I get satisfaction from making nerds annoyed

[wheat jay]

if you're asking for basic macro or sth