you'll always take it over slayer
#pvp
wheat jay
cinder thorn
What's the cd on it
cinder thorn
Oh cool same as hammer
dense herald
But u need 10 stacks for it to do big dmg
cinder thorn
How do you build stacks
dense herald
Oh cool same as hammer
Hammer?
cinder thorn
The stun hammer you throw
dense herald
How do you build stacks
Dunno,with crits or something
dense herald
The stun hammer you throw
Stormbolt is 30s
Its kinda bad cuz cs is 45s but gets reduced with anger management
dense herald
Oh cool then it should be around 30sec also
Its the same cd with cs but doesnt get affected by AM
Wait lemme see how demolish works
So is the ability 45s cd or gets reset if u hit 10 stacks
fickle forge
What
dense herald
Stacks beyond 10 just reduces cd instead
Oh
Ah ok
So thats good
I thought anger management would be useless cuz u would want to hold cs for demolish
Well it also works on bladestorm but still
Its good that its cd is reduced
earnest thorn
You can reset demolish really fast with unhinged. Though uptime is a factor for both, on a dummy you can’t keep them synced, but in a PvP match it’s probably a non factor
urban skiff
It's just rampage with a cast time
oh shit yeah the musician. Love his music, kinda weird he branched out into gaming tho
dense herald
2 seconds is a long time
Ye well you stun and demolish
With talent shockwave 4s stuj now i think
5 with dragom ability
Idk if it gets reduced with haste
urban skiff
It's gonna be fine
convoke was a longer cast time and less damage, and still destroyed people
boreal veldt
demo will probably be useful to force a wall/dodge, seen ports, feign death, blocks, bubbles, blinks, all dodge it
just use it on cd
45sec is still a really good cd, which if lucky might get down to 30-40sec?
dense herald
Dude
Imagine
Just imagine
You have 2 op stacks
Avatar
Spear
Everything
You press demolish,big crit,into a big crit ms
That guy is gone
worthy fern
I’ve been seeing it get lots of kills on beta
Doesn’t seem incredibly hard to get off
boreal veldt
You press demolish,big crit,into a big crit ms
careful with the dirty talk this is a family discord
lavish quest
That guy is gone
He'll never recover from that 9% hp being gone!
dense herald
careful with the dirty talk this is a family discord
This is actually a gym channel where ppl talk about workouts but every once in a while we talk about pvp
dense herald
He'll never recover from that 9% hp being gone!
He'll still be at 100% if his healer is druid,also what hapenned to the cat
@lavish quest you should rename to lululand
lavish quest
He'll still be at 100% if his healer is druid,also what hapenned to the cat
I don't think it was a cat. And I changed pfp to be more super cereal
Obviously
dense herald
I don't think it was a cat. And I changed pfp to be more super cereal
Cereal?
Surreal?
What does even surreal mean idk
boreal veldt
What does even surreal mean idk
It's what farmers yell to get ahold of pig's attention
lavish quest
Let my meme speak be
urban skiff
demo will probably be useful to force a wall/dodge, seen ports, feign death, blo...
Demolish will also be good in forcing enemies to hold a cooldown to prep for it
Imagine a mage who feels he has to hold a blink just to escape demolish. Higher uptime, more damage, and we still get to SS demolish and wipe out his rogue on a quick tab-target
sharp meteor
Protection
Melee attack and all ability damage increased by 30%.
Revenge damage increased by 25%.
Execute damage increased by 50%.
Devastator damage increased by 25%.
Shield Charge primary target damage increased by 25%.
Ravager damage increased by 25%.
buoyant shale
is honor not shareable between characters now?
rancid granite
prob bugged if not
buoyant shale
?
rancid granite
isn't all of that supposed to be transferable via warband too
so if it's not they're prob fixin somethin
buoyant shale
i saw a forum post like 6 days ago saying it wasnt anymore, idk
rancid granite
cinder thorn
When is it viable to go after the healer?
cinder thorn
Apart from that, I mean when would you have main target to be the healer
sharp meteor
when you think you're most likely to kill them
like if the other target(s) aren't viable
simple rock
Rdruid and pres evokers are common kill targets in shuffle
rsham sometimes
rdruid because you can swap to them with a stun when they're not full hotted/out of form
cinder thorn
Yes I'm asking because I just went after rdruid with a mage and he had shaman and sub rogue and we melted him
simple rock
pres because they're nearby a lot of the time and kinda squish in stuns
boreal veldt
When is it viable to go after the healer?
Currently i'd just target whoever has least armor
sharp meteor
depends on comp matchup positioning cds
cinder thorn
Another good question
How do you deal with the shaman totem that keeps pulling you in do you kill it?
Is there a totem killing macro because I struggle to target it sometimes
sharp meteor
totem killing macros got broken in wotlk
cinder thorn
Also is there a skill to use which kills it in 1 hit
sharp meteor
static field is worth killing, andspell reflect lets you charge through it
cinder thorn
static field is worth killing, andspell reflect lets you charge through it
Thx didn't know spell reflect helps
Is there an ability which 1 shots those dangerous totems? Does slam do it?
boreal veldt
#showtooltip
/target Static Totem
/cast Bloodthirst OR Overpower OR Slam
rugged temple
cinder thorn
Err OK, congratulations
boreal veldt
Thx didn't know spell reflect helps
Is there an ability which 1 shots those da...
you may also want to add /cancelaura Bladestorm
just a good idea to add that to many macros like CCs or Execute
cinder thorn
Thx I'll try it tomorrow
cinder thorn
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
Is this in classic?
I remember this armor from the grand marshal days when wow came out
Is there a way for me to obtain it now or in tww?
I don't think I reached GM in vanilla so it would have to be via other means
Is it right that 1800 in rbgs gets you it? Is that still possible or will be possible in tww?
Any other ways?
cinder thorn
can just get 1800 in blitz now
1800 in blitz gets you this armor?
You sure?
Then everyone n their mum will have it 🤣
rugged temple
yes
cinder thorn
If that's the case I'll get it tomorrow
OK thx Bois
rugged temple
1800 in blitz EZ
cinder thorn
Where do you buy it from area 54?
rugged temple
area 52
boreal veldt
area 53 gets no love
left lark
Rend vs. Thunder Clap for pvp?
thick reef
raw summit
#showtooltip
/target Static Totem
/cast Bloodthirst OR Overpower OR Slam
Cant /tar totems
sharp meteor
Haven't been able to use totem killing macros for like 15 years.
elfin sinew
nope
I play and sweat as arms in 3v3 shuffle even though I'm doing half the damage other non-melee classes do
it's only 2,5 weeks left for the xpack to hit, no reason to panic or reroll 😄
elfin sinew
At work mate, can't do that
dark topaz
Ah i see
elfin sinew
let me see how Icy veins compare to mine
elfin sinew
Ah i see
I'm running something like this CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgtZMzMzMmZ2stsMzAAAAgBTzYmZYGzsBjhZYzMDYgZMDAAAAAAAmxsMGDgYAAAAAAMA
and I change to shattering throw if I got some immunity shields in the oposite team
no matter what you do, we are on the low end damage wise in pvp now due to armor being f-ed up
dark topaz
I'm running something like this CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgtZMzMzMmZ2stsMzAAAAgB...
was thinking something like that
dark topaz
no matter what you do, we are on the low end damage wise in pvp now due to armor...
yeah ik
elfin sinew
I'm not an expert by no means but our choices are limited until the xpack drop
even avatar itself is shit
final charm
does honor resets between expansions, or does it stays as between seasons?
dense herald
dense herald
does honor resets between expansions, or does it stays as between seasons?
Resets why would it stay
Guys
Arms got clapped
Its over for us
Mortal strike and overpower damage reduced by 15%
wheat jay
eye beam dmg increased by 100% ;D
tight rain
I thought people were saying than fury was better than arms, this nerfs maybe will be reverted for pvp
final charm
Resets why would it stay
thanks, I wanted to ask cause it was quite weird for me that it doesnt resets between seasons 🙂
wheat jay
I thought people were saying than fury was better than arms, this nerfs maybe wi...
anyone saying sth is better or worse is talking out of their ass
dense herald
I thought people were saying than fury was better than arms, this nerfs maybe wi...
Arms has a niche rn that demolish is doing 50% of all ppls health
wheat jay
we'll know when the expansion hits, when the season starts, and we play for like a month or so, then we'll know 100% what is best
xD
dense herald
thanks, I wanted to ask cause it was quite weird for me that it doesnt resets be...
Yh ,btw the i sent was meant towards the arms changes
dense herald
we'll know when the expansion hits, when the season starts, and we play for like...
I mean slayer got buffed so
wheat jay
ye
dense herald
And fury was already doing good
tight rain
I just want to play arms and don't get declined in lfg arena for it 😢
wheat jay
and it still doesn't say shit about pvp meta
cuz there's too many variables and noone plays properly now
and classes are getting changed
dense herald
I just want to play arms and don't get declined in lfg arena for it 😢
Huh
wheat jay
I just want to play arms and don't get declined in lfg arena for it 😢
bro, stop
dense herald
Bro why would u get declined as warrior
wheat jay
noone declines people based on spec/class they play xD
dense herald
Like its good every season,viable at least
dense herald
noone declines people based on spec/class they play xD
Also that
wheat jay
you could play frost dk in s4 and you'd still find groups in lfg
which was the single worst spec in pvp
dense herald
Wait
wheat jay
people don't care as long as you got some experience or just don't suck giga dickkkk
wheat jay
<@291636646225379328> u cant find group as a tank
ok but i meant actual specs
normal stuff
not degenerate
and then, you play warrior
which pairs with EVERYTHING in this game
so every comp is a viable comp xD
dense herald
which pairs with EVERYTHING in this game
Rogue?
wheat jay
you do know warr has comps with rogue, right?
not rly popular since rmp exists lmao
people tend to play tsg, turbo, and retwarr
and they forget that thunder is consistently one of the best warr comps
its decent with sp
its good with mage usually
urban skiff
Protection
Melee attack and all ability damage increased by 30%.
Revenge damage ...
I already called it once. Prot colossus gonna absolutely demolish opposition for a few weeks
urban skiff
is honor not shareable between characters now?
They disabled it for now because the transfered honor counted towards new honor levels
lavish quest
noone declines people based on spec/class they play xD
elfin surge
fierce elm
rolled
fickle forge
elfin surge
its over bruh
fierce elm
mud giving up
elfin surge
second war almost 85 on cata
elfin surge
slayet
cinder sluice
Should we cope with fury now until a rework?
lavish quest
Who cares about numbers tuning rn? It's gonna be all over the place
What I know is doing the prepatch event last night I pressed avatar and didn't start spinning
fickle forge
We're spear bois now
lavish quest
Forget spear, embrace crusade.
Storm earth and fire
But crusade has the better memes
urban skiff
fury confirmed main character of TWW still.
cinder sluice
Pressing rampage feels so good 
lavish quest
Fury pump bois
uwu
elfin surge
fury confirmed main character of TWW still.
cinder thorn
Nothing confirmed until its out
They can literally change stuff right up to the moment of release and in the first few weeks still so all this speculation about numbers is useless until then
Just play game as it is and report deedback to blizz so they can keep tuning
fierce elm
Warr confirmed shit class
elfin surge
Does the season start 2 weeks after launch? I assume so
elfin surge
i expect a lot of changes within the 2 weeks and the first weeks of the season
#BUFFARMS
fierce elm
its joever
elfin surge
Buff dstance
TRUEEE
dense herald
its joever
He was doing 600k as fury few days ago
fierce elm
its JOEVER
dense herald
TRUEEE
Make it 20% reduced dmg taken 10% reduced dmg done again
Only way to save arms
dense herald
Or that so its not too op
elfin surge
bring back intervene reflect
wheat jay
cant have 20/20
cuz last time it was in the game
YALL PLAYED LIKE PUSSIES
SITTING IN DSTANCE
24/7
elfin surge
then stop training an arms warrior
elfin surge
says u
wheat jay
arms was doing highest dps
one of the best bursts in the game
and was immortal whenever someone even looked at him
i can understand frustration or whatever, but 20/20 was degenerate gameplay
oh no, enemy popped cds
let me just sit in dstance until its over
oh no, my stun dr is off
well, time to sit dstance
dense herald
Yh and now we dont do dmg and take alot of dmg
Healers trink is gone bb
That might be overexagiration
Idk if spelled correctly
wheat jay
overexaggeration*
elfin surge
let me just sit in dstance until its over
mad I pre d the go?
wheat jay
pre is respectable
as is everything
but not sitting in it for 50% of the game
lmao
20/20 was just degenerate
pussy gameplay
elfin surge
but not sitting in it for 50% of the game
then dont attack the warrior and watch him do no damage
fickle forge
Dstance was 20/20 cause we didn't have IP and IV and parry was 3 min CD
elfin surge
artji doesnt understanding target swapping 
tight rain
bring back intervene reflect
Best PvP talent yet
elfin surge
Dstance was 20/20 cause we didn't have IP and IV and parry was 3 min CD
game is totally different now bro
20/20 would be so nice to have again
or even 20/30 with a higher damage loss
pre D a stun feels like it does nothing
tight rain
Don't think 20/20 is going back, is pretty hard to balance that
elfin surge
yeah it prob wont
People been attacking warriors too much and too easily the last 2 seasons to the point where i second guess pressing intervene on an ally which feels... backwards?
lavish quest
Make d stance 20% DR 0% damage loss
Losing out on the 3% crit is a bad enough punishment 😉
rancid granite
does all this arena talk translate well enough to bg's ya think?
dense herald
Losing out on the 3% crit is a bad enough punishment 😉
True
lavish quest
does all this arena talk translate well enough to bg's ya think?
Yes. Both are just do big dam
We are warriors. Simple folk. We do dam.
rancid granite
well, aside from the big dam part of course
rancid granite
i dunno thats why i was asking lmao
fickle forge
or even 20/30 with a higher damage loss
I mean it's pretty insane to have perma barkskin, let's be real
elfin surge
I mean it's pretty insane to have perma barkskin, let's be real
I mean it's pretty insane to attack a target that cant kite or move or heal
urban skiff
20/20 would be so nice to have again
on fury i just permanently roll in dstance all of DF
wheat jay
Ok so mud says "dont hit warr in dstance", pretty insane to have an immortal toggle ngl
urban skiff
Don't even care if it's approved or effective
wheat jay
Oops they target me, time to pop my infinite barkskin
urban skiff
Outside cooldowns fury kills by providing mega ms effect and letting their partner do all the dam
dense herald
Ok so mud says "dont hit warr in dstance", pretty insane to have an immortal tog...
Ya but if u dstance u also dont do dmg
dense herald
They need to buff dstance,maybe not 20/20 but doing 15% less dmg for 10% less dmg taken feels bad
urban skiff
You deal 10% less damage, you take 20% less damage (sort of)
elfin surge
Ok so mud says "dont hit warr in dstance", pretty insane to have an immortal tog...
as if other classes arent immortal rogue & mages
urban skiff
If your opponents are 100% uptime and targetting you, your 10% damage reduction is half as effective as the 10% damage reduction to their damage done.
wheat jay
Ye but they dont have perma 20% dmg reduction that youre asking for
urban skiff
it's shifting the balance disproportionately
elfin surge
Ye but they dont have perma 20% dmg reduction that youre asking for
they have it better
urban skiff
math be mathing
urban skiff
Ye but they dont have perma 20% dmg reduction that youre asking for
they actually have 50% damage reduction for as long as there's cc up on a dps
fierce elm
can this chat purge every non-warrior
urban skiff
again, math be mathing
lavish quest
Ok so mud says "dont hit warr in dstance", pretty insane to have an immortal tog...
I have a solve. Remove Dstance and just give warrior +20% DR
:)
elfin surge
how many blinks does mage have?
wheat jay
they actually have 50% damage reduction for as long as there's cc up on a dps
Stupid take
urban skiff
Stupid take
no, it's literally how math works.
I may be dumb with a head full of rocks, but I'm still the smartest fury in the village
lavish quest
Mage has a passive called immortality
urban skiff
also i curl like 30 so i'm a pretty big deal
wheat jay
Smh
fierce elm
lmao
wheat jay
alter time is a sick ability
Ye unless it's purged
elfin surge
throwback to every season warlock is good they are able to face tank melee and never move
wheat jay
Which can be done by half of the classes
urban skiff
hey man keep it relevant to <#897055819475091456>
elfin surge
Ye unless it's purged
blink alter (immune to death) blink alter back blink knock meanwhile doing 5x everyones damage
urban skiff
Warrior is so good the only way to keep the playing field level is to have them at F tier, which is like S tier for all other classes
elfin surge
but yeah
fickle forge
I mean it's pretty insane to attack a target that cant kite or move or heal
We heal doe
elfin surge
yeah so much
wheat jay
Kinda, yes
elfin surge
damage mitigation from IP isnt healing
urban skiff
it's effective healing but not literal healing
Imagine if IP was affected by MS effects, big yikes
elfin surge
i doubt 20/20 d stance would even be that great in this meta
games are lost in dampening or mana
wheat jay
It would lol
elfin surge
nobody is dying 100-0
urban skiff
Like I said, a 10/10 or 20/20 dstance is twice as effective for you as your opponents in a 3v3 setting
I'm not opposed to what you say
Just upsetting when people don't get math
elfin surge
the only problem i can see 20/20 stance having is stronger defensive synergy between ret/war
urban skiff
or maybe I'm baiting the others in the channel into calling me stupid because I get off on it
wheat jay
with everything lol
urban skiff
the only problem i can see 20/20 stance having is stronger defensive synergy bet...
warrior is peak whenever warrior's best partner is enh
elfin surge
last 2 seasons war has been a punching bag for free damage
lavish quest
Like I said, a 10/10 or 20/20 dstance is twice as effective for you as your oppo...
Only if they attack you. It's a benefit to your opponents when they hit other things
elfin surge
urban skiff
Only if they attack you. It's a benefit to your opponents when they hit other th...
100% correct
If they're cleaving or splitting then dstance is just slowing the fight.
but secret third layer: if you have ms and they don't then dstance shifts the damage back in your favor
elfin surge
just dont train a warrior in d stance
urban skiff
tbh just ignore warriors
we so widdle and don't really do much. Just let us poke with stick while you battle with big books and pokemons
Oh yeah also cancel dstance -> avatar -> decimation
I really wish slaughterhouse wasn't a pvp talent
or alternately, make all classes spec into ms effects with pvp talents
elfin surge
just non warrior mains arguing against warrior buffs what a surprise
wheat jay
just dont train a warrior in d stance
so, best survivability button
wheat jay
just non warrior mains arguing against warrior buffs what a surprise
i argue about dumb takes lol
urban skiff
just non warrior mains arguing against warrior buffs what a surprise
everyone's a warrior main at some point
It's the most popular pvp class for a reason
wheat jay
ok, id be fine with it if it wasn't 3sec cooldown lmao
elfin surge
pre d ur go ur just mad
urban skiff
It's why they feel like they can say dumb shit about warriors because "i was warrior in SL S1"
wheat jay
mud just wants to press d stance and never be punished and win
urban skiff
who doesn't tho
fierce elm
Ret paladin should have dstance
wheat jay
just give warriors perma 20% dmg reduction i guess
urban skiff
just give warriors perma 20% dmg reduction i guess
give warrior shorter cd defensives like dh and take away dstance
elfin surge
mud just wants to press d stance and never be punished and win
doubt id win doing 20% less damage all game
its almost like
stance swapping
would be good
lavish quest
just give warriors perma 20% dmg reduction i guess
How big of a handicap do you want us to have? We have to stand in harms way 100% of the time or lose so we gotta be a bit more durable. Crazy
lavish quest
just non warrior mains arguing against warrior buffs what a surprise
Funny when people say warrior is OP, but at the same time don't play warrior cuz it sucks
🤔
urban skiff
How big of a handicap do you want us to have? We have to stand in harms way 100%...
Also we're forced to leap behind pillars to LoS healers. If blizzard is going to force that playstyle the least they could do is remove all consequences
fierce elm
make arms a healer
urban skiff
give warrior a fistweaver spec but we yell at people instead of punch
wheat jay
How big of a handicap do you want us to have? We have to stand in harms way 100%...
as does almost every class to do dmg?
lavish quest
You realize we pay for it with dmg loss???
Which is our most valuable resource as a warrior???
wheat jay
you realize it used to be 20/20 in shadowlands, and it was stupidly op?
elfin surge
and skillful
lavish quest
We ain't killing with our leet set ups
lavish quest
you realize it used to be 20/20 in shadowlands, and it was stupidly op?
How was it OP if no one played shadowlands?
elfin surge
you realize it used to be 20/20 in shadowlands, and it was stupidly op?
then arms dies immediately after it got nerfed
urban skiff
Which is our most valuable resource as a warrior???
isn't our most valuable resource one of the best MS effects in the game?
elfin surge
good argument bro
lavish quest
isn't our most valuable resource one of the best MS effects in the game?
Our MS is the same as everyone else's (arms)
The pvp spec
urban skiff
Our MS is the same as everyone else's (arms)
sharpen blade
wheat jay
then arms dies immediately after it got nerfed
cap
elfin surge
If 20/20 is too strong with the current arms kit then start nerfing ignore pain or impending
stance swapping is a core part to arms pvp
lavish quest
🖐️ I did. It sucked. :)
elfin surge
oh yeah nobody cuz everyone went fury
earnest thorn
SL s2 Combatant bracket was being gate kept by washed r1 arms warriors
urban skiff
That's an honor talent. And lasts 4s
that's still the second best ms effect in the entire game
the best being fury's
elfin surge
lavish quest
that's still the second best ms effect in the entire game
It's not our standard MS
elfin surge
they are fotm rerollers now
lavish quest
It's a special effect we pay an honor talent for
elfin surge
not true arms mains
urban skiff
It's up when it's most useful and it's not up when it doesn't matter
elfin surge
sad state to see
urban skiff
it's an instant lock for all arms always, and you wouldn't ever touch it if it was a random proc
wheat jay
who played arms after s2
cuz everyone rolled fury?
elfin surge
cuz everyone rolled fury?
wonder why
earnest thorn
Wasn’t condemn and death sentence nerf the real reason arms died in sl s2
urban skiff
unkiteable fury doing highest dps
don't remind me of the small charge on RB
fuck I loved that in pvp and absolutely loathed it in pve
elfin surge
Artji:
Shadowlands Warpaint
Shadowlands D stance 
wheat jay
we talking all specs now?
elfin surge
bro is on about d stance acting as if its warpaint
perma damage reduction no penalty
urban skiff
warpaint was nerfed in TWW
urban skiff
yea but we had a massive nerf in TWW prepatch that flew under the radar
they significantly reduced enrage uptime
lavish quest
"Warrior is dead."
~ Swifty, Legendary Warrior
urban skiff
"Warrior is dead."
~ Swifty, Legendary Warrior
literally who
elfin surge
much rather go back to stance dancing over ignore pain spam
lavish quest
literally who
12?
lavish quest
much rather go back to stance dancing over ignore pain spam
Just macro it, you'll be fine :)
elfin surge
Just macro it, you'll be fine :)
cant we have rage issues again
wheat jay
much rather go back to stance dancing over ignore pain spam
i doubt you'd ever get 20/20 back again
lavish quest
cant we have rage issues again
Just don't play the class
elfin surge
i doubt you'd ever get 20/20 back again
probably not
urban skiff
i doubt you'd ever get 20/20 back again
nah, we're due for another "back to the roots, revert all the recent changes" patch any day now
elfin surge
revert the avatar and wb nerfs ffs
urban skiff
Probably after TWW, when they do another ilvl squish
wheat jay
like, im fine wtih warr being OP beyond reason, cuz i play every comp with a warrior otp XD
but some changes are just dumb
or rather suggestions
urban skiff
with 10s cd ngl id be fine iwth it
why 10 sec
elfin surge
just let us stance dance damage bro
wheat jay
for it to have a bigger downside
wheat jay
allows for pussy gamplay too, thats my issue with it ngl
urban skiff
for it to have a bigger downside
it's going to have unintended consequences and be really annoying
fierce elm
surival mains smh
urban skiff
If casters could spend all of DF juking for freecast lust then we can't fuck over one melee spec with a wierd arbitrary cooldown because players worry that dstance is "easy" to use
lavish quest
Just give us passive 20% DR and remove dstance. Solved.
elfin surge
if a war is sitting d all game you should win lol
urban skiff
Just give us passive 20% DR and remove dstance. Solved.
make it 15%
elfin surge
if u lose ur just bad
lavish quest
Then people can't complain Dstance is OP 
wheat jay
if a war is sitting d all game you should win lol
someone pops cds, warr pops dstance
elfin surge
the only time i saw people complain about 20/20 was losing to a 1300 war sitting d all game in 2s as druid war at 1500
urban skiff
actually, keep dstance at 10/10 and roll second wind into always being active in dstance
urban skiff
Would be more interesting
elfin surge
someone pops cds, warr pops dstance
???? yeah???
lavish quest
someone pops cds, warr pops dstance
So you want someone pops cds, warrior just dies?
elfin surge
im mitigating the damage as the ability is intended to be used
wheat jay
one uses cooldown with actual cd, warr uses one with 3s cd and 0 drawback when not bursting yourself
elfin surge
u could also stun in battle then use cds
urban skiff
someone pops cds, warr pops dstance
starting to sound like a rogue main bro
elfin surge
???
what is happening
like i said artji just wants to use cds into d stance and win
urban skiff
warr pops dstance, someone pops 90s cd wall
can warrior have a 90 second wall?
lavish quest
one uses cooldown with actual cd, warr uses one with 3s cd and 0 drawback when n...
Do we only do damage while bursting? 0 DPS outside of CDs?
I just learned something new
elfin surge
lavish quest
The whole pressure class doesn't do the pressure thing. Crazy
wheat jay
like i said artji just wants to use cds into d stance and win
no i want forcing enemy into using defensives to give advantage when going to a kill, when i force someone to use walls, they dont have them for X time, i can punish that, if someone has 100% uptime on a wall, there's barely any punishment there
urban skiff
a 20/20 dstance is the exact same as bear form for moonkin/feral/resto
wheat jay
except for their small dps loss, outside of their cooldowns
urban skiff
I don't see anyone complain about bear form
elfin surge
Artji doesnt understand
lavish quest
no i want forcing enemy into using defensives to give advantage when going to a ...
The punishment is that warrior doing LESS DAMAGE LOSING THE GAME
elfin surge
20/20 can be okay if ignore pain and impending get nerfed
allows for more skill expression
urban skiff
20/20 can be okay if ignore pain and impending get nerfed
as a fury i fully support this
lavish quest
Warrior loses if dmg number is smaller
lavish quest
Also warrior doesn't have 18 defensives to trade btw
elfin surge
rogues are better brawlers than war now
urban skiff
tbh take away defensives from everybody. They can all have exactly one defensive at 2 min cd
wheat jay
ok ngl watching mud old vids and man's sitting dstance 90%, even when bursting, went out of it for 10s when every enemy offensive cd was on cooldown, thats what i mean
im done now, cya
lavish quest
Actually I'm starting to get behind Artji.
Make warriors:
Charge in -> Blow your load -> Die.
So we can stop playing this class
elfin surge
vs rmp?
lavish quest
Then what we giving warriors instead?
elfin surge
showing rmp is poor choice
wheat jay
hard to find a game longer than 15s
lavish quest
He's fighting the God classes and you think he's not going to sit in D and fear for his life?
elfin surge
trying to use my own videos against me when i was the highest warrior at the time
vs rmp
lavish quest
They didn't make warriors Kratos man
wheat jay
there's other games, you sit your own full burst few games
fierce elm
so salty
wheat jay
like, nothing against you doing it, it was the best way to win
but defending perma 20% wall is dumb
elfin surge
i can explain the first game
Sent warbreaker in D to get the game going nothing else. (was off stun dr)
Used necro banner to buff my ferals damage (i was off stun dr)
Immediately sent avatar and more cds and guess what I want battle when it was my burst
@wheat jay
lavish quest
Have you considered when warrior sits D he gives his opponents wall against himself?
elfin surge
artji showing a warrior sitting d when hes off stun dr vs shadowlands rmp
WOW D STANCE OP
wheat jay
sitting perma into dh bala too, even during your cds
fickle forge
yeah so much
Unless it was SP or lock, I've beaten every other spec on HPS
Warr def have good survivability
lavish quest
90000 blinks is way better dstance than dstance ever was. And they don't even lose dmg for it
elfin surge
bro is studying my gameplay from 2 years ago to try and prove a point
wheat jay
you made a point that stance dancing is skillful, yet you dont yourself
rancid granite
those talent trees were pretty cool back then
elfin surge
you made a point that stance dancing is skillful, yet you dont yourself
i just showed that I did
????
elfin surge
wheat jay
bye
elfin surge
im over it
rancid granite
dude has a yellow name that didn't tip you off???
where's your yellow name artji??
fickle forge
Now if this had been Dekel, he'd have gone on and continued in DMs after the ban
wheat jay
dude has a yellow name that didn't tip you off???
so did afro and kargish, doesnt mean they're omniscient
urban skiff
I don't think arms will die though
arms will always have hardcore fans who won't switch because fury having 3 buttons to press is braindead while arms having 3 buttons is big brain
fickle forge
arms will always have hardcore fans who won't switch because fury having 3 butto...
What are you talking about man
??
That's not the conversation at all lmao
rancid granite
so did afro and kargish, doesnt mean they're omniscient
idk afro and mud talk with a lot of confidence so i blindly follow them
urban skiff
What are you talking about man
that regardless of the state of arms, arms will be played because it's regarded as the big brain spec
fickle forge
that regardless of the state of arms, arms will be played because it's regarded ...
I mean okay?
urban skiff
Meaning, arms will not die
fickle forge
But not what we were talking about
urban skiff
a direct response to you saying we'll see if arms dies or not
urban skiff
Ah, thought you meant like the spec conceptually dying in popularity
lavish quest
Well it will when we just sit on the floor as everyone wants.
urban skiff
have a fury meme
ya'll taking this a bit too seriously
we're the bro channel, stay friendly
elfin surge
unfortunately many regulars have rerolled off warrior
wheat jay
i was planning to roll warr again
urban skiff
always warrior
wheat jay
but this bitch @fickle forge doesn't want to play dk for our tsg
urban skiff
but sometimes feral, enh, or aug
elfin surge
but play bdk
?
wheat jay
ok please no
wheat jay
dk is chad tho
wheat jay
real
i thought about frost myself
but out of that and dh i like dh more
playstyle wise
❤️
wheat jay
lmao
elfin surge
server says "u cant send that"
sends anyways
wheat jay
lmao
lavish quest
TSG is the sauce.
Just wants everyone to have a good time in a "fun pile" in the middle
fickle forge
Mud is 100% biased when it comes to his UDK favoritism
elfin surge
love my dk bros
lavish quest
What about the dk hoes?
elfin surge
them too
lavish quest
So we just need to find you the right egirl, got it
wheat jay
are there any dk egirls?
elfin surge
are there any dk egirls?
goth girls prob
fickle forge
You can't even find warr egirls
rancid granite
fickle forge
How you gonna find DK egirls
lavish quest
Mud would know
wheat jay
You can't even find warr egirls
cuz warr is male class, duh
lavish quest
He's done the research
urban skiff
are there any dk egirls?
yes but they'renamed stuff like periods and menstruating
mild quartz
is the pvp dummy bugged or is bloodbath critting for 1,2mil
urban skiff
pvp dummy doesn't have accurate amount of armor and no vers
So it will never accurately represent what you can do to players
urban skiff
Am i pvp relevant?
boreal veldt
Am i pvp relevant?
of course. you have a BiS pfp, seals are always relevant
urban skiff
That's true. Seals are the GOATs of the sea
That's why you can't spell seal without sea
violet fossil
That's why you can't spell seal without sea
cinder thorn
That's true. Seals are the GOATs of the sea
Your logic is flawed, otherwise women would be the goats of gender because you can't spell women without men
violet fossil
Your logic is flawed, otherwise women would be the goats of gender because you ...
HERpes
elfin surge
crusader3455
rancid granite
WoW backwords is WoW
lavish quest
Or therapist without piss
You actually have too
Now there is a word in there, but I'm not gonna point it out
lavish quest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077655483344764978/1249290498791702558/t...
That's an incredible photo btw
boreal veldt
Nascar backwards is racecar
lavish quest
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
❤️
fierce elm
WoW backwords is WoW
Nascar backwards is Nascar
fierce elm
Nascar backwards is racecar
also FUCK
I was away and made dinner and missed my opportunity
lavish quest
<:critcake:984549832511344640>
Just gonna do that throughout the day huh?
It was Era obviously
cinder thorn
The noobs in non rated matches piss me off
There is no point playing non rated matches because if they don't win in first 5 seconds they start throwing, sitting in spawn etc
At least in rated you get away from the rating with those assholes eventually but non rated it sux, add to that the premade vs pug matches, it sux
fierce elm
the noobs in non rated make me glad that I can introduce them to the bullshit that is PvP
and taint their minds to never want to play again
even the noobs in arena as I do my placement games on a new toon
facing like 1500 rated players who are genuinely 1500
cinder thorn
Thing is pvp is the only mode I play, I'm not interested in anything else
dense herald
That's an incredible photo btw
I stole it from someone who posted it in the beta channels or something,its a gif
wheat jay
for 90% of playerbase pvp is side content
so cant expect people to be 100% full serious all the time there
fierce elm
Sometimes I just go into BGs and smash people
not caring about objectives
purely so they understand that my spec is bullshit
fierce elm
sue me
lavish quest
Solve the artji way, bombs
fierce elm
Look, all these sweaty nerds in arena already know whats coming as I pop crusade and get my stacks up
they are ready
these newbies in battlegrounds arent
while also being undergeared
as they get slapped for 400k verdicts left and right
watch them as they squirm trying to get away while I just wait to throw a hammer at them
fierce elm
its the same with dudes who play hunter on EOTS
only popping people off the flag
those people enjoy the gameplay
because nobody else does
wheat jay
real lmao
urban skiff
The noobs in non rated matches piss me off
There is no point playing non rated ...
regular bgs has hidden mmr
You cannot convince me otherwise
cinder thorn
Explain how solos are matched vs premades all the time then
I'm not that good to be matched vs premades stomping randoms all day
Otherwise I would be matched with better players who don't gamethrow
So no I don't think you're right about that
urban skiff
Premades will be queued against premades (literally anyone in 2+ size groups) and then backfilled with randos
urban skiff
its always russian people on the EU servers
there are like 3 cyrillic servers and they're prioritized together so they can, you know, talk together.
It's literally impossible to tell premades from happenstance when cyrillic servers are concerned
dense herald
Look, all these sweaty nerds in arena already know whats coming as I pop crusade...
Paladin player eww
You can do even more dmg by playing deathwish fury and getting berserker
Taking 60% incresed dmg but doing 80% more
urban skiff
Deathwish fury -> permanent dstance -> zerkerstance when popping cds to really pop off
dense herald
Deathwish fury -> permanent dstance -> zerkerstance when popping cds to really p...
This is how im gonna push blitz bgs
fierce elm
there are like 3 cyrillic servers and they're prioritized together so they can, ...
Look I am just saying
dense herald
Gonna get healers to pop every cd on me
fierce elm
I never win a BG vs them
urban skiff
I kinda play like that in low shuffles as well
dense herald
And get berserker and 5 stacks deathwish
fierce elm
they always have OP strats
urban skiff
I don't care if it's effective, it's fun and it's messing people up when you don't follow the script
lavish quest
https://tenor.com/view/demon-hunter-flip-demon-hunter-flip-demon-illidan-gif-183...
Reroller smh
urban skiff
they always have OP strats
smaller community with a hierarchial macho culture. Someone establishes dominance and the rest follows in line, probably with toxic language and bullying
Probably they only have infighting if the group is mixed ukranian and russian
fierce elm
its WACK
wheat jay
Reroller smh
it is what it is
urban skiff
almost no changes to prepatch, what you're reading is TWW beta
fickle forge
Prepatch is basically worthless, the game is gonna be completely different with TWW release
fierce elm
lmao
fickle forge
prepatch is for fun
I'd rather have had another month of the season
wheat jay
Onlyfans s4?
Who won s1, s2 and s3?
How much did I miss wtf, were there some championships?
urban skiff
I'd rather have had another month of the season
I'd rather have had another month of S3, which was objectively more fun for fury
Annie OF was the best build
amber heron
I mean shadowlands conq banner
should return
I love being in conq banner and just being huge
that was my favorite fury warrior
radiant oasis
Conq banner was thematically sick
Surprised it didn't become a talent. To be fair, I'm surprised ancient aftershock wasn't a talent either.
Spear imo is definitely the "most warrior" ability out of all of them. It's a shame it's bad in pve and PvP
sharp meteor
Spear imo is definitely the "most warrior" ability out of all of them. It's a sh...
was good for fury last season 😭
might be playable now idk
we dont have the bleed amp on roar anymore so that's nice
radiant oasis
Eh, I'm a little doomer about the talents. It's impossibly tough to make up for the fact that we lost second blade storm. Yeah we get hero talents but so does everyone else. And not everyone else lost the equivalent of double bladestorm.
amber heron
@radiant oasis
warrior as a class
as awhole
is inferior to every other melee
imo
it offers nothing
absoleyte nothing
maybe, you could argue it has like good utility in a cleave situation with intervene.
waxen ginkgo
FURY WAR IN PVP NOW just seems to fall over dead or is there something im missing
sharp meteor
FURY WAR IN PVP NOW just seems to fall over dead or is there something im missin...
Yeah it's prepatch everybody has 80% armor and nothing is real or matters go do mog runs
boreal veldt
FURY WAR IN PVP NOW just seems to fall over dead or is there something im missin...
just run deathwish, pop all your coolies, so you AND someone else dies
if youre playing solo, glgl lmao
elfin sinew
Yeah it's prepatch everybody has 80% armor and nothing is real or matters go do ...
This.. mog runs till 22nd haha
silent bane
boys i havne't played in 4 years
how is arms now?
did we live the dream and we were top tier or at least over rets>
or did i miss the dream and rets top tier
elfin sinew
come back after 22nd when the expansion launches
at the moment we are bottom tier damage dealers cause everyone has TWW armor values already
radiant oasis
Not great in PvP at this very moment, but historically healthy id say
urban skiff
it offers nothing
we get heroic leap. The best power in the game
radiant oasis
Warrior is looking pretty good in tww. More utility and mobility.
amber heron
@urban skiff u mean meta from dh
Which also makes u immune
Or glimpse
Lol
Or fel rush
urban skiff
This.. mog runs till 22nd haha
Or do an extra warrior or two
some people like to push two of the same spec and whichever spec is lower rated they play
elfin sinew
I don't have time in life for this but I imagine this could work
fierce elm
waiting for them to fix the prepatch event
so I can grab the mog and then not play again
I should abuse ret in blitz bgs though
urban skiff
WOO
Best part of warbands
I just found 100k i had forgotten about on an unplayed alt
fierce elm
I transferred everything to my paladin that was possible lmao
elfin sinew
I just found 100k i had forgotten about on an unplayed alt
Yeah, I had 80k gold on a different realm from like 8 years ago
urban skiff
Just wait until you find some random enchant that's worth a goldcap because of rarity
I have really really old characters on another server and I'm sure there's a lot of gold in their banks and professions
Characters as old as WoW
cinder thorn
some people like to push two of the same spec and whichever spec is lower rated ...
Yes heard that before but I don't see the advantage of doing that over just playing the same toon
cinder thorn
I should abuse ret in blitz bgs though
What is about ret which is abuse able now
fierce elm
we are just heavily overtuned in damage rn
Our holy point generators are hitting for 250k non crit
without cooldowns
cinder thorn
We? Have you become a retnoob?
fierce elm
I rerolled ret because everyone I play with plays warrior
urban skiff
Yes heard that before but I don't see the advantage of doing that over just play...
you'll never drop rating
urban skiff
I rerolled ret because everyone I play with plays warrior
there's room for at least 3 warriors on every 3v3 team
don't be a coward
cinder thorn
you'll never drop rating
Explain please, I don't see how when you return to your first war why he wouldn't drop rating
Each warrior has his own rating
urban skiff
Yes, but you only play up
you play whichever has lower rating, when it overtakes the other, you swap
cinder thorn
OK how does that help though
Let's say you reach 2000 and start losing
urban skiff
You're progressing two tracks and "locking in" your rating by swapping
you never risk your highest rating
it's one of those "it's counter intuitive but game theory works"-things you just have to accept
cinder thorn
Is it any better with 3 warriors than 2 or doesn't matter above 2
fierce elm
you should have 10 rotating warriors
urban skiff
The more the better in theory. In practice 2 is enough
buoyant chasm
you should have 10 rotating warriors
Got only 6 for now
urban skiff
you should have 10 rotating warriors
not mine, stolen from reddit
lavish quest
Ummm. Awkward...
I have that but their all named Leland or Lelànd
Well one's named buffarms
elfin surge
not mine, stolen from reddit
looks like me
cinder thorn
We're ready
How long does it take to get one to 70?
cinder thorn
Oh wow
They said it will be faster now to level up, is that in prepatch or just in TWW?
Also is the hourglass version faster than the normal level up?
raw summit
Mop remix is faster ye
lavish quest
Ye it's not a lot of work assuming you have max cape. Dont loot exp tokens. Spam heroic dungeons till 25. Do mogu raid twice, then do a few more heroics. Eat all exp tokens in mail. Bam done.
They nerfed the amount of exp from 1-70 with prepatch. So it's faster here onwards
cinder thorn
Ye it's not a lot of work assuming you have max cape. Dont loot exp tokens. Spam...
Is it same advice for first timer non maxed cape?
lavish quest
Essentially. I would just do the raid 3 or 4 times to get your exp up to the similar exp multiplier.
Usually I have exp rate of 280% the 12 raid tokens and 40-45 heroic dung tokens when I open them at 28-30 ish lv and that gets me to 70
I have a weakaura that maths it out almost perfectly
fierce elm
Is it same advice for first timer non maxed cape?
its fast regardless just regular leveling too
for your first toon
the optimal way after cape is maxed is to just have like 8 alts
and then just get tokens
lavish quest
Before prepatch I had to do mogu raid like 5 or 6 times. Now just twice and a couple extra dungs
elfin surge
rancid granite
but why
violet fossil
Oh wow
They said it will be faster now to level up, is that in prepatch or just...
applies to both but remix is a lot faster
violet fossil
Because I'm a man
idk about that 1 chief
lavish quest
idk about that 1 chief
Fuk u short texan
rancid granite
my paladin is stuck in the trash i might as well make a new one instead of wait for blizz to fix the issue
lavish quest
Mud with a cowboy hat lookin ass
violet fossil
Fuk u short texan
How’s the weather up there fee fi fo fum lookin mf
violet fossil
😶🌫️
violet fossil
What, you would raise an army of priest characters instead?
Na
rancid granite
10 spears 10 bladestorms
lavish quest
Na
Well while you're all freaking out "any builds for prepatch????" I've been touching grass and leveling the cast of 300
violet fossil
Lol
fickle forge
@elfin surge Can you pin a tier list on who has the strongest lifts here
violet fossil
which lift
fickle forge
All the standard compounds
fierce elm
I mean put me at the top
lavish quest
Does lifting ur mum count?
fierce elm
also this is not PvP related
please keep this channel pvp related
I have this unmuted and it's very annoying having to scroll over and watch you guys talk about lifting smh
cinder thorn
For once Afro is not being sarcastic
As a result I will allow him to stay in this chat even though he's demoted himself to a retnoob
cinder thorn
BTW can we now transfer gold freely between warband toons or is it still same server only
cinder thorn
imagine multiboxing all those warriors
I actually seen this happen with bots before, in world pvp years ago
I wonder if wow still bot infested or if they still banning regularly
rancid granite
ive been blasted by mages and shams but never the goodness of warriors lol
urban skiff
tbh I want to do this but I also don't want to pick a fight with my wife
urban skiff
30-60 minutes if you are fast and fully optimized over a few days
record is 35 minutes right now
urban skiff
I have a weakaura that maths it out almost perfectly
share the WA
fierce elm
record is 35 minutes right now
slow I do 1-70 in 2 seconds by paying for it
checkmate
urban skiff
man what do you spend the last 1½ seconds on? Jerking it in san diego?
fierce elm
gotta input the last numbers of my card because I dont trust blizzard to save it
lmao
urban skiff
i have a card for each subscription service
fierce elm
tryhard
urban skiff
why do mucirans call it beef roast instead of beef cuvette?
superior naming bri'ish people
lavish quest
tbh I want to do this but I also don't want to pick a fight with my wife
Show her who's boss.
And I'm not home atm
urban skiff
All the standard compounds
so like the totals? I used to be in the 500kg club
lavish quest
So can't share
urban skiff
I can wait for when you get home, or if you can remember which WA you downloaded
fierce elm
Karg is scared of the list
urban skiff
this look like the right one?
lavish quest
Yup
urban skiff
are titles like gladiator/legend account wide, class wide, or character specific?
urban skiff
fuck that is dumb
lavish quest
I usually use "crusader" or "lord of war" but I don't see people's titles
fierce elm
I use Contender
or Darkspear Revolutionary to show that I have spent way too much time playing this game
urban skiff
or Darkspear Revolutionary to show that I have spent way too much time playing t...
huh, didn't even know i had this
fierce elm
yeah
rapid shore
cooler title as alliance
fierce elm
anyone who played back then has it
Usually just roll Contender or Elite Title once I get it
urban skiff
check the date
fierce elm
nerd
rapid shore
rapid shore
ye
fierce elm
I should have played more WoD and abused ashran for titles
Manslayer is arguably the best Horde title
urban skiff
i prefer conqueror over manslayer
lavish quest
yeah its from like 5.4 in MoP or something
Oh, I thought that was the cata prepatch one lmao
fierce elm
naa
urban skiff
that's the R1 RBG title?
lavish quest
Well I have the toys that turn you into a darkspear and then a gnome for ally
urban skiff
this toy
fierce elm
that's the R1 RBG title?
naa its winning Highmaul coliseum event in WoD