pvp

[amber heron]

got killed by 3 mobs

logged off

[cinder thorn]

Did they fix the armor scaling? I played my first few matches today since prepatch and I haven't had any issues

On the contrary I feel warrior is better than before a little

I just got 5/6 vs 2x frost mage lobby for first time in my life at same rating

[rugged temple]

anyone get to 1800 in BG blitz yet?

how easy was it

[left lark]

For arms, for pvp, do we use rend or just thunder?

Rend does slightly more upfront dmg but thunder reduces targets speed by 20%

[rugged temple]

BG blitz is the new random BGs

so many clueless people in there that do no damage and undergeared

[sharp meteor]

dang just like shuffle

[dense herald]

You can check by checking your armor value

[left lark]

How do your talents look like

Can you share your crit/haste/mastery/etc. stats?

[limber relic]

1800 is giga ez. Above that seems impossible. 2 many dumb dumbs

[dense herald]

If you get 1.8k in blitz

Can you buy banana set

[fierce elm]

only reason to play it tbh

if I can get the banana set

[dense herald]

Banana set gives you aura

[lavish quest]

Don't have it from several years ago lul?

[dense herald]

Like you have it from 2006

[lavish quest]

I mean... not back then. But I have had it for several years now

:P

[fierce elm]

Never got into rbgs

[lavish quest]

Good fun back in the cata/mop/wod days

[elfin surge]

I have, they are fun but the community is awful.

[lavish quest]

Just the egirls, or the whole community?

😂

[elfin surge]

lmao

rbg egirls are something else bruh

but i used to go hard in rbgs

[lavish quest]

Back in mop it was my main form of pvp

The good ole days

[elfin surge]

we about to go back to mop

mop classic

[lavish quest]

The classics are never like the real things were

[dense herald]

Cata just dropped

Man tww hasnt released and im already just waiting for midnight

[fickle forge]

Holy priests and Rdruids I assume

[elfin surge]

cata only lasting a year

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

I'm so ready for MoP

[elfin surge]

cata is fun

but it died

[fickle forge]

I'll ditch retail and attach myself to MoP

Espec cause I know the two following expansions were lit as well

[fierce elm]

losers

[lavish quest]

Cata died when mud got creamed in the tournament

[rancid granite]

I hear the same but I'm hoping the new ranked blitz will change it up a bit

[elfin surge]

blitz is gna be cool

[fickle forge]

You're so hateful after fiascoflight

[fierce elm]

I mean if you can get the 1800 set form it I will be forced to do it sadge

[elfin surge]

wish they added blitz instead of shuffle

[fierce elm]

im tired boss

[fickle forge]

Hang in there fam

[lavish quest]

Well now you'll have both

[elfin surge]

i think war is gunna be a class thats forced to duo q with a healer

[fierce elm]

its gonna be fun as fuck as ret paladin tbh

with how cleave/aoe heavy they made us now

more than what DF was

[elfin surge]

sounds kinda fun qn bgs on war with a pocket healer

[lavish quest]

Time to find the fairest egirl in the land and catch that shit like a pokemon

[fierce elm]

walk in and triple cleave final verdict thanks blizzard

[elfin surge]

thats every class now

m+ class design

[fierce elm]

Yeah but ret already had absurd shit

Gonna see how it ends up being at 80

but its looking bright

[elfin surge]

ya nobody cares ab ret

[fierce elm]

nobody cares about uou

pin bot looking ass

[elfin surge]

aight

[fickle forge]

Mud hasn't even pinned prepatch guides smh smh

[lavish quest]

Gonna take shit from a ret?

[elfin surge]

prepatch guides

Warrior Prepatch Guide : Dont play it, it sucks just reroll ele sham until tww

[rugged temple]

Yes you can get the 1800 set from Blitz right now.

[fierce elm]

sick

[fickle forge]

What pet battle setup should I use in prepatch?

What transmog does arms scale best with?

[elfin surge]

Dreadnaught

[wheat jay]

s1 wod elite

[rancid granite]

thought you were doxing me for a moment

looks exactly like me

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/right-lol-yeah-ok-yea-gif-5695937

[elfin surge]

just now realizing they changed second wind

[fickle forge]

Head full of mud

[elfin surge]

we are so back

[rancid granite]

i grabbed second wind straight away too

the whole talent revamp all seems A+

[fickle forge]

Yeah Idk about that

But SW is nice

Loss of double storm is gonna be hurting

[rancid granite]

i assumed tww was gonna cover it a bit; i haven't been paying much attention to it tho

🙏

[fickle forge]

Not sure what that means, but we'll be sitting more CC than ever

[rancid granite]

i assumed tww new talents would make up for the loss of double storm etc *

[fickle forge]

I mean, no

Cause you don't have double storm

[fierce elm]

There is no CC in the game

[fickle forge]

So it'll just be triple knock into triple root etc.

[lavish quest]

Avatar should come with CC immunity for the 20 sec duration

:)

[fickle forge]

Bladestorm should never end : )

[elfin surge]

I hope spear becomes better than roar

[dense herald]

1% hps below 35% hp

[elfin surge]

immortal

[dense herald]

Becomes 2% at like 5% hp

1% to 2% depending on health missing

[fickle forge]

It's more bloat on top of what we already have

Arms gonna be immortal

[elfin surge]

cant wait to see the forums when i out heal my healer on warrior

[dense herald]

Its not that deep

[elfin surge]

colossus gets 15% increased ignore pain

sheeesh

[dense herald]

Ok thats huge

[fickle forge]

Longer shockwave stun as well

[dense herald]

Bois we cook

[robust cloak]

is it 15% max hp or just shield value

[dense herald]

25s cd if u hit 3 targets

[elfin surge]

colossus tsg lowkey tho

[elfin surge]

15% more shield value

i saw some colossus one shots on beta

50-0 in .1

[fickle forge]

We're the sub rogue now

[dense herald]

Fury will be better tho i think

[dense herald]

We cant keep someone in cc for 20 seconds

[elfin surge]

so arms needs buffs ur saying?

[dense herald]

Yes

Make anger management reduce cd of demolish so it lines up with cs

Then we cooking

[fickle forge]

Colossus and slayer both look great ngl

[dense herald]

I wish the charge taking u out of roots didnt have a 30s cd

Its better than nothing but

[robust cloak]

demolish can get cd reduced on max stacks tho no

[fickle forge]

I could see slayer being better into ranged and colossus into melee

[dense herald]

Guys i have an amazing idea

They make orc have 20% chance to resist stuns like in classic

But for warrior only

[elfin surge]

how long will a colossus shockwave be with oppressive roar from dragon

wait a second

[dense herald]

What does opressive roar do from dragon

[elfin surge]

aoe kidney shot

[elfin surge]

increased cc duration

[dense herald]

By how much tho

[fickle forge]

Bro did not play DF

[elfin surge]

its 50% but with a .6 pvp mod

[robust cloak]

wonder if you can cast demolish in just knock up effect of the other shockwave talent

[elfin surge]

what would that be

[dense herald]

30% or something

So like

5 second stun

[elfin surge]

its over

[dense herald]

Joever

[lavish quest]

Warriors doing math, oh no

[elfin surge]

colossus arms + dk + pres

thats what we qn

[dense herald]

I got legend this season man

[fierce elm]

oh my god LEGEND

[dense herald]

Its hard with c tier spec

[lavish quest]

2400 on f tier bois

[dense herald]

(It wasnt hard)

[fierce elm]

2400 on f- tier

[fickle forge]

Shuffle was really hard this season

[dense herald]

I got 2.4k in 2 days on fury

[lavish quest]

Got it in like 3 months as arms by queuing a lobby every couple weeks

[lavish quest]

Was super hard... to find the will to queue

[fierce elm]

I didnt wanna play the game

so I stopped queueing lmao

[wheat jay]

real

id have gotten legend if season was a month longer

cuz i was queueing like once every 2 days or so

xD

[elfin surge]

cope

[dense herald]

Just mount farm while waiting

[boreal veldt]

got it accidentally because crest farming was easier on solo

[dense herald]

@elfin surge deathwish fury with tsg will be the play

[elfin surge]

yea...

[dense herald]

50% more dmg taken wont matter when the enemy wont be able to dmg u for 5 seconds

[rancid granite]

everyone sleeping on humans updated racial too

[dense herald]

Hearthstone mid arenas?

[wheat jay]

had like 55 wins

and around 2500

[rancid granite]

no, TWO hearthstones mid arenas

[dense herald]

You see a mage u hearthstone

[elfin surge]

i got verdant legend and didnt get legend

[wheat jay]

lmao, wasnt there some wins requirement?

or was it 50 xD?

[elfin surge]

just 50 total

[wheat jay]

lmaoooo

and you had mmr buff from last season, + inflation from current i presume

[dense herald]

Wait what

[elfin surge]

i just didnt care to spam q for legend when i was already safe r1

[wheat jay]

fair, i wouldnt either lol

[dense herald]

Thats actually a flex

[elfin surge]

100 wins over 2400 is actually dumb

that takes so fuckin long with 1h q times

[dense herald]

I need to get glad next season

Its a skill issue not having glad

[fickle forge]

Yeah I just say nah

And go workout instead or something

Getting legend surely is a 30hr commitment with the Q time

[elfin surge]

oh no i didnt get my flag!

lol i didnt even q shuff last seas

still 0cr

[weak hearth]

newb question: Going to try and hit 1.8k (Arenas) with a warrior next season. Any Race recommendations? or race is just trivial

nvm, read the pins lol.

[fierce elm]

race is trivial

dont fall for these nerds

[weak hearth]

gotcha. I'm really into the Tauren aesthetic for war so nice to know

[elfin surge]

Gnome & Orc best

[wheat jay]

tauren is the best

cuz big

gotta aspire to look like tauren irl

not undead @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

race can change lfg experience tho

nobody wants to play or talk to a worgen warrior

pretty sure @fickle forge is a worgen main

[wheat jay]

thankfully he's not

i wouldn't q with him if he was

[lavish quest]

Only one can be worgen in a 3s team, and artji is the alpha wofl clearly

[elfin surge]

[dense herald]

Uhh u can get 1.8k with any race but gnome seems to be the best,depends on meta,melee meta orc better caster meta gnome better

[wheat jay]

looks give more dmg

[sharp meteor]

You can make it to glad without racials.

Every little bit helps, though.

[dense herald]

Ye but i feel like ive had games where if i was a gnome i couldve won

By getting out of that root

[sharp meteor]

Oh, for sure. Happens from time to time.

[lavish quest]

I can make it to 2400 as warrior. Which means anyone can make it to 1800 with one hand.

1800 free anyways. Usually get it on like 5 healers a season and I don't really heal ever.

[dense herald]

I got 2.7k and legend by having sharpened blades macroed into my colossus smash

[sharp meteor]

Safety always off.

[fierce elm]

I macroed everything to overpower

[dense herald]

I dont have keybinds anymore

[lavish quest]

Rdru? Just cat convoke.
Rsham? Just riptide
Hpriest? Just serenity
Prev? Just do scaley things

[dense herald]

I dont want to give up Z

Sheath weapon more important

[lavish quest]

Just change it to F7 like I

[dense herald]

1.8k is ez u can get it in a few hours in shuffle,depends on how long q times r

[lavish quest]

If I'm pushing 1800 just for the sets, I farm it in 2s tbh. Easier.

[dense herald]

Yeah first 10 matches r placements aswell i feel like

So like 1.4k in less than an hour

Like 30-40min

[lavish quest]

S3 I was doing it as Rdru and because I'm a shitty healer I let my bad pug warrior die like immediately to rogue mage... so then I proceeded to just 1 v 2 them

And yes I did win

Stun into convoke op

[sharp meteor]

Offered to help somebody with no gear who hadn't played since wod and just lost first 10 so our mmr was a little hardstucko.

Really good for getting gear and initial cr out of the way.

[fickle forge]

I main vulpeera

[wheat jay]

bye

[boreal veldt]

[lavish quest]

So you're a furry and submissive?

[dense herald]

You lost or gained

Idk when i played with friend the first 10 matches we did felt easier

I think we won all 10

[fickle forge]

I like to think of myself more as a masterbaiter

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, you'll always win all placements

issue is that then you're at like 2100-2200 mmr

at which point things are less free if you have a 502 ilev disc priest

[lavish quest]

Well that went without saying. :)

[cinder thorn]

I'm not at home so can't share but stats are something like 17 30 40 40

[hardy timber]

Anyone have a good Arms pvp talent build for prepatch?

[fickle forge]

Yeah it's called frost DK

[wheat jay]

Dirty reroller

Smh

[lavish quest]

He's your brother now

[dense herald]

Rerolling is such a dirty move

[dense herald]

I dont think artji is rerollers he is just survival player chatting in the best channel in all the class discord

Btw was a evoker class discord made

[wheat jay]

real

unironically, when i started playing survi, i was still warrior main

both pvp and pve

then i started playing with kargish, and we didnt want to play lumberjack xD

[dense herald]

Wait you rerolled from warrior

Ban this guy

[wheat jay]

my guy, my warrior is called Artji, hunter is Survivartji

guess which was 1st XD

[wheat jay]

you can't ban me, i earned my place here

i got 2k set from legion

[cinder thorn]

I don't like ability names like execute being so stupidly weak

It really should be a threatening ability to use

I remember in classic when you enter execute range near a warrior it was scary and when you hear the ability you know someone either bite the dust or they are a slither from death

[wheat jay]

checkmate

[lavish quest]

He rerolled TO DH when it got reworked to OPness

[wheat jay]

it got reworked into a fun spec

then all the fun talents got nerfed 😦

[lavish quest]

My rest my case

No longer OP, rolled off it

[dense herald]

Fury execute does more dmg than arms execute cuz it got all the buffs

[lavish quest]

Well less OP anyways

[wheat jay]

wrong, i still play it

next expansion ill play warr for pve

warr/dh/survi for pvp

[cinder thorn]

Yes but even with the bottom left talent which is meant to boost execute it still feels like a wet noodle

Execute used to be a one time deadly move but now its just another spammable button with mediocre damage

[dense herald]

Cant even spam it in tww with the rage situation

[cinder thorn]

The hunter execute feels stronger and more deadly when I use it on hunter alt

I definitely get a lot more kills with it than the warrior execute

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-where-why-how-gif-11254825541557537884

[cinder thorn]

I haven't tested tww is the rage situation bad? I know they mentioned in patch notes but I haven't seen it

Do you literally have to pick between abilities all the time now?

[wheat jay]

i was literally 2300+ mmr on it in s4

fuck you mean where

[lavish quest]

How does that mean anything? You log in at 2400 MMR in S4

So you played it long enough to lose 100 MMR? :p

[wheat jay]

3s bitch

i ain't a shuffle player xD

[lavish quest]

Yes you are, don't lie

I'm sure you log in at 2400 mmr in 3s too as DH always

[wheat jay]

lmao 3s dont work like that sillyland

[lavish quest]

I have the last few seasons elite warglaives and I didn't even play DH

:)

Well I got 1800 in 2s I guess

[dense herald]

I heard its bad but havent played

[wheat jay]

lmao

nice

ngl s1 weapons were cool

rest was mid

[lavish quest]

I love it when a plan comes together. 😎

[wheat jay]

s3 mogs are ass except for mace and scythe i guess

i feel bad for vesa for trying to get red sword, and its just ass xD

[lavish quest]

I don't have S1 cause I hit 2400 S2 onwards

[kind sentinel]

It’d* be sick to have unique weapon models from PvP instead of recolors

[lavish quest]

I didn't really push S1 cause of ret rework I quit PVP a week before it in anticipation of it being ass lol

[devout grove]

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but will the honor this season transfer to TWW? Or do we need to spend it?

[cinder thorn]

Why did they choose to fuck with the rage generation

Did they say what their reasoning is?

Shouldn't they focus on more important stuff

[kind sentinel]

You can hold onto honor

[devout grove]

Thank you

[lavish quest]

Pve complained

[wheat jay]

cuz they dislike how we had infinite rage at all situations

to the point we were spamming ignore pain in pve, and pvp for damage

[lavish quest]

So they started to fix it. But they just took it a part and never put anything back together

[wheat jay]

ye but we also get better rage generation through hero talents

which we dont have now

[kind sentinel]

You can play Skullsplitter/blood surge to have better rage gen too

[lavish quest]

To the point that has me considering playing ww or ret

[wheat jay]

dirty reroller?

[fierce elm]

Turns out they balance around PvE

weird

[lavish quest]

They just made war worse with the promise of it being better in the end, and then forgot the 2nd half

So yes, I'd like to try to enjoy gaem :)

[cinder thorn]

Wait is the rage issue only in tww or is it in prepatch because it seems OK in prepatch so far

[lavish quest]

I'll still play war tho, if anything just play both/multiple

[lavish quest]

Should be lower in tww in too. Just not as low. It was a goal of theirs.

[wheat jay]

its higher in tww leland...

we have talents in hero talent trees

that generate rage

[lavish quest]

Higher than DF?

Oh, I typoed

[wheat jay]

df was too high

[dense herald]

My guild doesnt know who swifty is

This is a crime

[lavish quest]

Yeah I'm saying TWW should be lower than DF (what we know) not now

[dense herald]

Time to switch guilds

[wheat jay]

df you didnt pay attention to rage unless you were spamming 5 executes in a row

[wheat jay]

ye

[cinder thorn]

So wait, people complaining about rage generation and armor.scaling in prepatch?

I had the best day of my life as warrior in prepatch last night so if that's the case I have no idea wtf people are on about

[lavish quest]

It should go up, but not back to DF levels

So war should still feel worse overall cause they didn't give us the pay off part

[dense herald]

Some classes have 70% physical dmg reduction

[wheat jay]

oh 100% wont go to df level

df was stupid with rage generation lol

too much

far too much

[lavish quest]

I agree

I'd like for there to be a lower regen

[wheat jay]

ok i looked

[lavish quest]

But it should be worth it too

[wheat jay]

and there's nothing for rage gen

there is for mountain thane

[cinder thorn]

Why, it was fine in dF and its fine now, I honestly haven't noticed much of a difference so far

I tried all specs yesterday

[lavish quest]

Give me less rage, but when I finally build enough to spend, a mage dies IRL

That kind of thing ya know?

[wheat jay]

it was far too good in DF

[cinder thorn]

I wasn't at any stage feeling surplus or starvation

[wheat jay]

there was surplus at all times unless you did clap into ms with ignore pain, cuz that's your full rage bar lol

or spamming executes

[cinder thorn]

Only if you taken every ability that boosts it though

[wheat jay]

idea behind rage for arms is that you have to somewhat look at it

[wheat jay]

which everyone did

[lavish quest]

My rage regen has been awful, but I've only been playing mop remix warriors lv 10-30 in all fairness

[wheat jay]

ah yes

try max lvl with stacked cloak

350% haste really helps with rage generation

[lavish quest]

That doesn't get me new 70 warriors. Pass. I'm a man with a mission

1 warrior left

[wheat jay]

fair fair

wait

those classes go to normal when tww hits right?

so i can level up dk or some shit

[lavish quest]

Then I have all races as 70 warrior

[cinder thorn]

I didn't have an issue but I was using MS resets and prioritising rage spending abilities to avoid capping

As long as they don't starve us and force us to wait and waste cooldowns it's OK

But if they take the piss and make me wait to cast stuff I'll rage irl and play something else

[lavish quest]

And yes. When remix ends they will be normal characters you can play

[wheat jay]

again, idea is to not spend every global using rage

[fierce elm]

Artji is 8 months behind on news

[wheat jay]

afro, i didnt rly look at it too much

i looked into mogs

and how to abuse cloak farming

[dense herald]

So,make execute 80 rage but it deals 30% of ur hp

[lavish quest]

200%

[wheat jay]

we went over it already

if you want exe to hit hard, youd have to say goodbye to sudden death, and massacre

[fierce elm]

remove the brown class

[lavish quest]

Just let winners win Artji

😎

[wheat jay]

you mean rerollers?

so i win?

[warm carbon]

Could someone send a fun fury specc for solo bgs, never tried fury so idk what might be fun.
I would prefer as few buttons as possible so i guess bloodthurst prio

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

leland

lets do it like this

make kargish play dk

and ill do warr

tsg

@fierce elm you play ret warr with him so he's still playing some warr comp and doesn't bitch and moan 24/7

masterplan

[lavish quest]

What does that have to do with me? Lmao

[wheat jay]

fuck knows

thought id include you so you're not sad

[lavish quest]

Well aren't you sweet

[wheat jay]

im a very nice person

noone would play with me if i wasnt

[urban skiff]

can't make me

[wheat jay]

iwon't

blizz will

[lavish quest]

We should build rage when out of range of our target.
I build rage IRL, why not in game?

[urban skiff]

Rage generation on next attack should go up every second we're slowed or rooted

I'm ok with poly removing rage

I need inspiration.

My wife is looking to get back into WoW, I'm unsure what class to recommend her for pvp + minor pve content.

She's mostly into agility, she's rogue and enh shaman fan.

I don't think I'll have a lot of luck turning her into a healer

[wheat jay]

dh?

[urban skiff]

I'm hoping enh will scratch her agi itch and we can play turbo like old times

ah yeah that's also an option

I keep forgetting DH exists

[fierce elm]

why did yall tag me in your NERD stuff

[urban skiff]

I'm also going to play enh on my alliance toon and need an alt suggestion that'll vibe with enh that isn't warrior

[urban skiff]

did you train legs today? y/n?

[fierce elm]

I did the most lazy workout today

so no lmao

[urban skiff]

I literally only did deadlifts and zerchers

[fierce elm]

I did chin ups, some lat pulldowns, decided enough was enough and went home

[urban skiff]

I fell asleep mid zercher with my kid

[dense herald]

@wheat jay can i play ret hunter with u

[fierce elm]

I aint feeling da gym rn

too much shit to do

[urban skiff]

that's why i run 5/3/1. It's just in/out with a decent mix of strength and hypertrophy

[wheat jay]

we'll see

[fierce elm]

and on wednesday I have a tattoo appointment so won't workout for a couple of days kek

I mean I ran 5/3/1 for a long ass time

[wheat jay]

im not even sure i want another expansion of hutner haha

i probably will play it

[fierce elm]

Work is also aids cus everyone is on vacation

it just aint a good gym week

[urban skiff]

5/3/1 has been my goto for whenever I can't decide what to do with my next training cycle

[dense herald]

Im full greens so ill do like my warrior dmg

[fierce elm]

I just wing my shit

[lavish quest]

WW looking hype to try

[fierce elm]

lift heavy circles make sad voices go bye

[urban skiff]

true

[fierce elm]

My actual program is just centered around stuff I like to do

while also containing dummy amount of volume

[urban skiff]

My 5/3/1 is BBB variant so i can cover volume and cardio in one workout

[fierce elm]

BBB is fun

[wheat jay]

mehh

[fierce elm]

I just hit a point eventually where 5/3/1 was not viable for me in terms of strength increase

and I had to do more specialist stuff because I just found it lackluster

[urban skiff]

5x10 at 60% is mindnumbing but hypertrophy helps strength so I just deal

I just reset my 5/3/1 and kinda overdid it. My strength going up despite hitting 14+ reps on my 1+ week

[fierce elm]

Also I cba squatting and deadlifting ngl

thats also a big part of it

[urban skiff]

that's why I do zerchers

[fierce elm]

I swapped deadlifting for rows for a bit

and just removed squat movements in general

[urban skiff]

When i still went to the gym I always ran fullbody with 1x horisontal push, 1x horisontal pull, 1x vertical push, 1x vertical pull, 1x legs (squat or deadlift)

[fierce elm]

Now my program is just 5 days with a 6th day where I can do random stuff

Because I also cba chasing strength right now

[urban skiff]

I miss that. Now I just do 2-3 hours a week where my deadlift day is also zercher squat day

yea exactly the same

[fierce elm]

I peaked at like 175kg bench and then everything just fell apart and I said fuck it, 4 plates isnt falling this year

which is my last like huge strength goal

[urban skiff]

except little kids and overwhelmed wife and a job with 2 hours daily commute right now.

[fierce elm]

So decided to just fully swap to BW stuff and just increasing the amount of workload I can do

[urban skiff]

That's what happened to me too. Been chasing that 100kg OHP and just sniffed it at 98kg and then covid lockdown and I just couldn't get back in the rythm

[fierce elm]

Yeah, sometimes it just aint meant to be

[cinder thorn]

Can someone make a workout channel

[urban skiff]

I was on track to compete in strongman competitions and now I get winded walking up stairs

[urban skiff]

this is the workout channel

[fierce elm]

This is the workout channel

[urban skiff]

If you want pvp head over to the transsmog channel

[wheat jay]

this is it

[fierce elm]

My goal was to bench 180 in a bench only meet

but life lmao

[wheat jay]

we're finally slowly going back to good old days

[urban skiff]

bench stuck at 145kg forever now

[fierce elm]

Now I am chasing a 80kg dip, 60kg pull up to comp standards and just vibing at the gym

[urban skiff]

But again, i overdid my 5/3/1 reset so I assume once my rep range hits 4-7 I'm going to see a massive rise

[fierce elm]

Finished a 2pl8 ohp a couple of years ago and never did OHP again lmao

[urban skiff]

What's your BW? I'm 100kg and when I did weighted pullups I couldn't get above +40kg

[fierce elm]

right now I am sitting at like 111kg

[urban skiff]

eesh

[fierce elm]

somewhere around there

[urban skiff]

My hormone doctor telling me to not go any higher in my weight so I'm kind of fucked for strength

[fierce elm]

c r i n g e doctor

Idk, I felt better at like 103-105 range

but its also summer and I was on vacation so who gives a fuck lmao

[urban skiff]

I just want room for a row machine so I can do cardio again

For health and feeling better

Idk when life had to get so complicated. Once upon a time I was just ripping in the gym all afternoon every day of the week

[fierce elm]

I just wanna be a huge man with huge lifts

thats been my goal ever since I started lifting

[urban skiff]

Same

then it became who I am

Now I can't let up for a minute or I'll lose my identity

My kids think I'm the strongest in the world, least I can do is approximate it

[fierce elm]

As long as im the strongest at most public gyms I am happy ngl

[urban skiff]

I'm the strongest in my gym

Literally, i know it's cheating with a home gym but at least I can say it with a straight face to strangers

[fierce elm]

kek

I had one guy contest me but he got stuck at a 160kg bench

so now I shittalk him and he shittalks me and calls me fat

[urban skiff]

When they ask me if I train I always just go "nah, I just do some wii fit and zumba on the weekends"

Coworkers always weird about gym stuff

[fierce elm]

The worst part is the food part about work

Like "Yes I am eating all of this for lunch"

"Yes I need all of this meat"

"Yes that is a protein shake and a greek yoghurt for breakfast"

[urban skiff]

Yes

YES

Oh my god

Normal people are so weird about food

[fierce elm]

"Yes I do eat about 4kgs of just meat a week."
"Yes it's not the healthiest thing."

Its wack

Tbf most of my lunch is just ground beef and a tortilla so I get it

[urban skiff]

work provides food

very tasty, ngl

But they have like co2 quotas and stuff they have to adhere to because we're a "green" business

so meat is always limited, but they provide lots of beans and lentils and stuff to provide protein

[fierce elm]

yeah we get breakfast

but its always just bread and stuff

so I bring breakfast and lunch

[rugged temple]

wait people are taking 80% dmg reduction from warrior right now in pvp?

[tribal holly]

[fierce elm]

dont weirdface me

[tribal holly]

Eat your veggies

[fierce elm]

no I refuse

[tribal holly]

[lavish quest]

Does beef count as a veggie?

[fierce elm]

I eat a bell pepper here and there

and cucumber

[tribal holly]

Ok since you are big man how flexible are you?

[fierce elm]

Actually pretty flexible lmao

[tribal holly]

Nice thats good

[fierce elm]

I can get my palms on the floor while standing straight legged

stuff like that

[tribal holly]

Ye

[fierce elm]

never really cared

ALL ABOUT THE WEIGHTS

[tribal holly]

And cardio right???

[fierce elm]

uuuh

pass

I hike

[tribal holly]

Oh well atleast you hike

I see alot of kids coming in to the gym doing 0 cardio and then just leaving with a car

[fierce elm]

cardio is BORING

[cinder thorn]

Please keep this channel as pvp related as possible

It's the only channel I monitor on class discord and seeing irrelevant stuff here is off-putting

[fierce elm]

yeah exactly

keep it pvp related

smh

[kind sentinel]

Sorry bud the more you lift the higher your raiting

[tribal holly]

Woah

[fierce elm]

Im pretty sure this channel has always been 20% pvp and the rest was different topics lmao

[rugged temple]

holy smokes warriors doing 0 damage in BGs right now

[kind sentinel]

Armor values v high, check pin

[wheat jay]

Warriors be lifting it is what it is

[dense herald]

How you gonna be a good warrior if u dont lift

[lavish quest]

Lift = bigger dam

[fierce elm]

Look at mud

lmao

[cinder thorn]

Dude I lift also but I don't talk about it here

Talk about it in general chat and keep this for wow pvp

[fierce elm]

yeah talk about it in general nerds

[wheat jay]

Ask about pvp, you'll get pvp answer

[lavish quest]

This channel is hardly about pvp because there's nothing to talk about with pvp

[wheat jay]

Other than that we talk anything

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

I remember Shadowlands

it was brutal

Nothing happening

endless seasons

[wheat jay]

What was brutal?

Bodyshaming rovicus?

[fierce elm]

the meta remained the same the entire season and never changed

there was NOTHING to talk about

[wheat jay]

There was something

But it led to nuke

[lavish quest]

Now we have everyone sweating prepatch for some god forsaken reason

[fierce elm]

gotta get that XP on checkpvp

[kind sentinel]

Rest in peace both of rovicus’s toilet seats

[fierce elm]

lmao

My guy was just tryna optimize his life

[lavish quest]

"Boys, I have to get R1 in prepatch." 🤓

Mud wannabes

[wheat jay]

Waiting for notes in lfg "2400 bg blitz prepatch xp"

[kind sentinel]

I hear you can get achieves rn, that true?

[tribal holly]

In SL? Raiding

[wheat jay]

Understandable

[fierce elm]

kinda wack

[wheat jay]

If we had more valkyrs on our side maybe we'd have won

And we'd have kept two sf and old pvp channel

[tribal holly]

Atleast i was playing warrior

[fierce elm]

no

stop

[tribal holly]

You wouldnt have

[lavish quest]

Just make the pvp channel 18+, rated M or A and anything goes

[fierce elm]

LMAO

yeah that surely will work out

[lavish quest]

It would if it was the rule. Cause then it wouldn't be broken

[tribal holly]

In all seriousness hows warrior looking like in tww for pvp?

[fierce elm]

We can answer that by going to #arms

honestly

TWW seems like such a toss up for now

and we never truly know anything beforehand

But we can base some stuff of how arms is looking in PvE

[tribal holly]

[fierce elm]

Generally if Arms is really good in raid its pretty good in PvP

Same goes with Fury

They usually correlate pretty well

[kind sentinel]

Depending on how they tune Demolish in PvP it has the potential to be very fun/silly too

[fierce elm]

I doubt warrior will be below C-tier though

Its gonna be better than this season for sure lmao

[kind sentinel]

Ya

[lavish quest]

Woyer is F tier

Ice nova op

[rancid granite]

what tier is resistance bands

i dont lift but i use bands and i got 2100 still this season

[cinder thorn]

Are you a gnome warrior

[rancid granite]

human chad

[urban skiff]

nah

[boreal veldt]

we'll be eating well, arms gameplay is pretty much the same as df though with more buttons and down 1 bs :\

slayer fury looks fun and is allowed to take a 2nd bs

[urban skiff]

Fury thane is sleeper and everybody will swap

Mark my words

[boreal veldt]

thane has BiS visual effects

so thats valid

i mean the intervene magic absorb is kinda huge for peel

but avatar still being nerfed in pvp isn't helping it

[wheat jay]

We'll see

Collosus has the advantage of having a burst button

High chance we'll play it just for burst in a stun

[urban skiff]

Still? They just removed all the pvp modifiers last i checked

[urban skiff]

the problem however is sthat you're playing arms

or i guess prot

[wheat jay]

Which is the preferred pvp spec

[boreal veldt]

yeah, its still down to 12% 15% i believe

[lavish quest]

For 2 weeks before it gets nerfed

[boreal veldt]

if you got a bunch of awakened ire farmed, throw that shit on the AH, going for pretty high atm

AH the real pvp meta

[sharp meteor]

had a bunch of enchants in my bags and thought they'd be worth nothing

but my 1k wafting devos all sold for like 5-8k ea

bless people who dump gold on nonsense when the expac is over

[boreal veldt]

BLESS

[wary flax]

Demolish is gonna be c tier gang it's just Lego 2 hander. Everyone has a knock back (elemental shamans can do it while cc'd) and some classes can even grip their own friends. Play something that buffs consistent pressure, it's what warriors have always excelled at.

[worthy fern]

Aren’t you immune to cc when channeling it?

[wary flax]

Tru

Just looked that up but still your target can be grabbed

[worthy fern]

Yea

It’s trucking on beta rn

If someone’s stunned and you have the stacks or whatever maxed it does like 3 mil dmg

Or more

[boreal veldt]

meanwhile in #1230008337517514772

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[thick reef]

They did unnerf Prot

[sharp meteor]

20% mod on rend and shield slam gone

[urban skiff]

prot colossus is sleeper build

MARK MY WORDS

[dense herald]

No

[elfin surge]

No

[lavish quest]

What up with all the hipsters?

[fierce elm]

Hipster isnt a pvp word

please keep on topic

[lavish quest]

What's up with all the pipsters?

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-billy-boyd-peregrin-took-cheers-gif-4727251

[wheat jay]

We've had bladestorm yes but what second bladestorm?

[dense herald]

Fury has 2 bladestorms if you talent it,but they deal reduced dmg

[final charm]

Have you managed to get this? There is also next step with all BGs, which I think can be pretty hard. Ive just had great EotS, strong stomp, 1500:0 ez win and it took us over 6min

[dense herald]

Yes,heres the best part,theres another achiev for winning a bg blitz on all maps

[elfin surge]

BGB

[final charm]

Yea I know that there is next step, and thats one I think will be harder, have you got it?

[fierce elm]

yo the fucking title is sick for it

FORGED WARLORD

[dense herald]

Nah i think i only got finish a bbg under 5min but not all

[fierce elm]

like hello

[dense herald]

Wait whay

U serious?

[fierce elm]

not from the achieve

sorry

but a r1 title

and its sick wtf

[dense herald]

Fuck man

I have to get those titles

On a gnome

[fierce elm]

Forged Marshall is w.e

but FORGED WARLORD

is fucking sick

[dense herald]

Dude

Dude

Imagine youre a fucking orc

[fierce elm]

run around with that title with the fucking Blackhand transmog

[dense herald]

Youre rocking vanilla rank 14 set

And your title is forged warlord

Dude

[fierce elm]

@fickle forge im sorry im a BGB player now

[fickle forge]

Yeah enjoy your pennant

[dense herald]

Too bad you wont be able to get it as warrior shit class

[fierce elm]

Yeah imagine playing warrior

My ret paladin will RISE

Forged Marshall Vulgoré incoming

[fickle forge]

Forged Marshall JustLce

[fierce elm]

shut up nerd

[elfin surge]

what

is that real

so i need

Forged Gladiator
Forged Legend
Forged Warlord

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, forged is s1 title

I think the Blitz one changing with faction is kind of neat

[urban skiff]

They're a very popular type of underwear

[lavish quest]

Forged Signature

[elfin surge]

Forged by Odyn himself

[wheat jay]

i want forged too ngl

[dense herald]

Forged marshall is alliance?

Ffs

I need to lvl an otc

Orc

[fickle forge]

Then get R1 in shuffle

[wheat jay]

blitz?

hello?

[fickle forge]

Forged Legend bro

Forged Warlord has a good catch as well

[wheat jay]

forged gladiator is wack

[fickle forge]

It's still okay

Forged is a good title overall

[dense herald]

Forged is the best 1 so far

[sharp meteor]

It's alright.

[dense herald]

Guys help,i really want to play an orc but everyone is playing gnome

[sharp meteor]

Beats Verdant that's for sure. 😵‍💫

[fierce elm]

guys do I need to play gnome to win at the game!!!

[dense herald]

But i want to try to somehow get r1 in blitz

[fierce elm]

You should play Highmountain

bring that knockdown cc

[fickle forge]

Draconic

[rancid granite]

on one hand rushing someone as a big ass tauren they're gonna be on guard and panik; big cow big threat

on the other hand if you're a small gnome like baby yoda jumping around you're more likely to be ignored and looked over

[sharp meteor]

It was more of an advantage back when people didn't all have nameplates

[cinder thorn]

This

[rancid granite]

true lol

[sharp meteor]

nowadays gnome op cos FREEEEEE off global root break

[dense herald]

If i play a gnome ppl wont notice me and wont focus me tho

[sharp meteor]

buff bag of tricks 😭

[dense herald]

But forged marshall?

[cinder thorn]

Is the root.break every 1 min?

[dense herald]

Ye 1min

[cinder thorn]

Or 2

Fuck

I would roll gnome.if I didn't hate how they look and sound

[dense herald]

Grand marshall is better than warlord but forged warlord is better than forged marshall

#changemymind

[lavish quest]

Real shame my plater profile doesn't show titles so I don't see it unless I mouseover you

:P

[elfin surge]

im orc

[sharp meteor]

they didn't even spell marshal correctly aaaaa

[sharp meteor]

i thought u were mud

[elfin surge]

im mud the orc from durotar

[dense herald]

That makes me not want to play orc

[lavish quest]

Don't be a bitch

Gnomes suck

[elfin surge]

yeah stay alliance you gnome fuck

[sharp meteor]

i mean play w/e u want

[lavish quest]

I'm coming back to horde. From human tho, not gnome.

[lavish quest]

Nope, cannot advise playing the furry race

[sharp meteor]

why not? :3

[dense herald]

I was kidding

[dense herald]

They should rename this emojie to warrior

[raw summit]

xeos is a warrior it works

[dense herald]

We are all warriors

[raw summit]

He got necrolord killed for pve

[dense herald]

Except artji

[lavish quest]

@wheat jay Loser

[lavish quest]

Moral duty

[wheat jay]

im more of a warrior than most of you are

both ingame and irl

suck my left nut

if you can reach that high

[elfin surge]

?

[wheat jay]

xeos ruined like 10 diff builds

[raw summit]

He was on max stream said both warrior specs were tripple S tier or some shit and they nerfed it the next balance patch

[dense herald]

Bro we need to stop wow players going on streams

[wheat jay]

mehh

max is doing god's work with all those class representative streams

[dense herald]

By nerfing warriors?

[wheat jay]

not just that

feedback from top dogs

that goes even to blizz

and helps people decide on their mains

and alts

[hot solstice]

Why not make those dogs class designers?

[lavish quest]

Sure thing shorty

[fierce elm]

Just because you can represent a spec doesnt mean you should do class design

[hot solstice]

Well bet they can make better ones than those working now

[fierce elm]

I mean most specs are looking fun in TWW

[hot solstice]

Dks changes r cool

Maybe hunters

Shaman changes took all the community crying

Month before release

[wheat jay]

warr changes are mostly good too

especially with hero talents

[fierce elm]

so like usual

[hot solstice]

Oh ye…I love playing rage starved arms

[wheat jay]

for pvp i dont think there has ever been a time when people were so satisfied with all the chagnes

[hot solstice]

So funny

[wheat jay]

so you prefer having so much rage you spam ignore pain for dmg?

[hot solstice]

Still can’t find out what to do with slam

[wheat jay]

cuz thats what we had whole df except last season xd

[fierce elm]

Unlimited rage is still fun ngl

[hot solstice]

Like

[lean burrow]

where do you guys find news like new Forged titles?

[wheat jay]

id say there's fun in both

[fierce elm]

wowhead

[wheat jay]

wowhead

[lean burrow]

#news ?

[hot solstice]

At least make changes to damage if rage managing gonna be a thing

[fierce elm]

I mean, in design essence they look at a playability of a spec

before they touch damage numbers

Damage numbers is literally the last step

[wheat jay]

as long as we dont end up with bfa level of dmg breakdwon bullshit we're good

deep wouinds doing 80% in m+

or more xD

and even then, some people liked it

[lavish quest]

Just let mortal strike 1 tap

[wheat jay]

people are usually very divided when it comes to arms dmg

some like bleeds, some dont

[lavish quest]

I should play rogue or mage. Only classes allowed to be broken.

But then I'd have to be a c u ck

[wheat jay]

well

i made the smart move of finding few i find fun

warr, dh, hunter

👍

one of them is bound to be s tier

[lavish quest]

Rogue mage lock, just always be s tier

[wheat jay]

ye but youre a mage which is ranged

mage which is range

rogue which is gay

[lavish quest]

Sv is ranged

Hmm...

🤔

[wheat jay]

mongoose bit

its melee

flanking strike puts me in melee

so does coodinated assualt

so does harpoon

checkmate

[lavish quest]

Ret is the 20 yd melee, sv is the 40 yd melee. My bad

Lol

[wheat jay]

precisely

[fickle sage]

Yall think fury will be viable in pvp this expac?

[fierce elm]

as in you can play the spec

or as in r1 top of the leaderboard

[fickle sage]

play the spec

in bgs and arenas fine

[fierce elm]

then yes

[fickle sage]

Ok cool thats all i needed lol

[sharp meteor]

to what extent

can always play everything

[fickle sage]

i just mean if i wanted to push to 1800

in 2s or 3s

for the elite set

[sharp meteor]

can get elite set on literally

any spec

[fickle sage]

Alright cool

[lavish quest]

You've always been able to play fury

[fickle forge]

I mean we don't really care until we play the patch

Anything can happen

Arms looks lit for now

[lavish quest]

They half worked on arms and the half they did was the dismantle part.
Pvpers will be fine as long numbers work out even if it's shit to play

[cinder thorn]

Why are people overthinking what they will play in a patch 1 month from now when they can get the answer by playing a couple of matches on each spec when the time comes

Whatever people say now will have changed by then and max level with full gear will be different to whatever gear and shit they are playing now on beta

[iron fractal]

As fury, is Unhinged better choice than Massacre?

[rancid granite]

some people want to game and not read i guess 😭

playing with talents and builds is so much fun imo though

[boreal veldt]

I got scummy and tried the unholy dk fotm.
Am I a heathen for enjoying it's proc based game play just better than arms.

[elfin surge]

Ive seen some pretty large hits from demolish on the beta but its also beta so could get nerfed

[rancid granite]

same i keep swapping 😔

but it seems rated blitz is universal rating between specs...?

maybe im wrong or different for heal and tank specs? idk how it works

[thick reef]

I'm ready for Forged Marshal gaming as the sword+board bastard

[granite epoch]

demolish is just fundamentally bad for pvp

even if it does big dam you are pretty much “stunned” for the duration of it

i may be totally wrong but it just doesn’t seem worth the trade off

[lavish quest]

If it kills someone, it's worth it

:)

[wheat jay]

all about dmg

if it kills

i play

if it doesnt

i dont

[lavish quest]

This is why we all play depression

[rancid granite]

they took away the 2nd bladestorm but gave us another skill to relax our fingies with

[lavish quest]

Ice nova?

[wheat jay]

another class got disarm?

[cinder thorn]

Just hunter and warrior and rogue I think

[wheat jay]

druid

has disarm too

and monk

[cinder thorn]

Oh didn't know I must be getting old

[elfin surge]

"if every melee has an interrupt on a 15 second cd every caster should have a disarm on a 15 second cd its only fair"

[wheat jay]

can i juke disarm?

at this point im just waiting for sth better to be released 😦

[urban skiff]

Will earthen be a good race for warriors?

[lavish quest]

Legally brain dead takes for 500 Alex.

[elfin surge]

[dense herald]

Its like a 2s cast and youre immune to cc

[cinder thorn]

Can it be cancelled

By you

Or is it press button, afk for some coffee then come back and hope they're dead and you're not

[urban skiff]

deal, but they also lose all their slows kiting and all their spells are melee range

the genie has spoken

[cinder thorn]

Does it have a range? Does it root them or stum them or can they just /wave and walk away then /point /laugh

[urban skiff]

https://youtu.be/duo1dYngYbE?t=506

timestamped where some random streamer i never heard of uses demolish

good luck walking out of that

[dense herald]

You mean bajheera

I remember there was a bajheera vs swifty warrior 1vs1 video

[cinder thorn]

So demolish does damage over time rather than one massive hit at end of 2sec?

I need to look at it properly

[wheat jay]

you throw a combo

jab jab hook uppercut and big hook at the end

boom, boom, bing, badabing, bam

[cinder thorn]

So it needs to.be timed with a stun 100% and after they've blown Cc breaker

[wheat jay]

as does EVERY single good burst moment, yes

[cinder thorn]

And it has to be hammer not the aoe stun

[wheat jay]

for every single class

at every single moment

since classic

[cinder thorn]

Because aoe stun will break before it's finished

[wheat jay]

imagine its eye beam on dh

[cinder thorn]

Yes but this one is more critical since you can't run after them

Do they have to stay in front of you or is it like arcane missiles tracking their position

[wheat jay]

people very rarely stop the cast with cc

usually its stopped with aoe peels to stop dmg overall

not specifically on dh to stop the eye beam

[dense herald]

U cant be ccd while using demolish tho

[cinder thorn]

So is it tracking enemy like arcane missiles or is it manual facing like eyenbeam?

So if they try to dance around you and move behind you does it break

[wheat jay]

i believe you can be feared

[wheat jay]

afaik it always hits

[dense herald]

Just press berserker rage

Or whatever the ability was called

B4 using demolish

[wheat jay]

ye

or look at omnibar XD

and since you'll stun the dude anyway

no biggie

really

[dense herald]

Its actually a good ability

[wheat jay]

its probably going to be a make or break for warr in pvp

[dense herald]

Also will be running spear prob,maybe

[wheat jay]

since you get a HUGE burst button

on warrior that always does good consistent

[dense herald]

I imagine spear will be the go

[wheat jay]

last hit was doing 1.3mil hits no crit

[dense herald]

Trying to get that crit

[wheat jay]

that's 20% of someone's hp

[cinder thorn]

They need the other option to be viable also.not all warriors to play same build

[wheat jay]

full combo is like 30-40%

[wheat jay]

doesnt matter for pvp

if it does high burst