pvp

[elfin surge]

yo

[fierce elm]

kek

control it

He is a bystander

destined to watch us shitpost

[fossil mortar]

[lavish quest]

Who said I'm shit talking him? It's a good mog, just not uber original lol

[fickle forge]

Mud is in place so Late and Mwahi don't have to

[fierce elm]

Im just stirring up stuff

All mogs outside of mine suck anyways

[lavish quest]

Ya gotta tell him to touch grass or something then

[elfin surge]

lol

[lavish quest]

Some touch grass, others touch grace

https://tenor.com/view/lost-grace-bonfire-elden-ring-fantasy-fantasy-game-gif-27178102

[elfin surge]

tww glad mount is so ugly man

[lavish quest]

Yes, finally me being hard stuck 1600 is being rewarded

[worthy fern]

They reward your glad with the bfa prepatch mount recolor

[elfin surge]

Draconic glad mount is the best glad mount since legion

[fierce elm]

mud is wrong

The best glad mount is the unsub mount

free yourself from this CURSE

[lavish quest]

Ye if only I could have bothered to try to go for it

lul

[elfin surge]

afro woke up angry today

[lavish quest]

Today?

[elfin surge]

afro angry he woke up today

[fierce elm]

actually in a great mode

mood

off work until monday

Life is sorting itself out

[fallen solar]

I like my 7 day on 7 day off schedule

I’m off till Thursday. Then work till the next Thursday

It’s glorious but 12 hours gets boring

[worthy fern]

Bis shifts are 4 10s a week

[lavish quest]

I have 4 12s, sadge

[worthy fern]

Well I hope you make hourly

[lavish quest]

Nope

[worthy fern]

Rip

[lavish quest]

Probably make more than MUD tho so we good

[fierce elm]

20 days left and I work 5 days per month

Lets gooo

[elfin surge]

wtf?

[worthy fern]

Is mud forklift certified

[elfin surge]

ya but i dont use them

[fierce elm]

MUD isnt even suitable as a paperweight

[fierce elm]

id fuck with this tbh

[lavish quest]

I used a forklift when I worked at a grocery store. They said forget about the certification

[fierce elm]

Same

[lavish quest]

I make more than the forklift drivers at the company I'm with now tho

I'll never make more than the guys who drive the blade trailers for us though

[cinder thorn]

Are they going to fix this stupid armor scaling which should be fine for next level cap but isn't fine for us now and won't be fine for anyone leveling up subsequently

Or they could give everyone magic resistance as well and let the rest of player base get rage bars irl

[merry valley]

pre patch is always a fiesta

[fickle forge]

I found out since everyone is immortal in pre patch, you can just spawn camp 15 people by yourself as blood DK

[urban skiff]

Imagine if we didn't vote for the awakened season tier set, but instead we just got all the tier set effects at once

Blizzard should hire me, it sounds like fun

[lavish quest]

Wouldn't be able to fit that on a tooltip

[urban skiff]

I disagree:

[dense herald]

Mud doesnt even play the game

[fossil mortar]

[dense herald]

Last video 3 months ago

Before that 8 months ago

I search mud wow on yt the first video is some guy playing in the mud in tww

Its some tww quest called playing in the mud

[lavish quest]

[elfin surge]

i didnt like s2 s3 and s4 of df

s1 was okay

[dense herald]

Its ok bro i dont blame you,i liked s1 till 10.0.7

Or b4 warrior nerfs idk what patch was thay

Im not even a good player this is my 2nd seadon getting 2.4k 😛

[fickle forge]

S1 was good after the 20th arms buff

[elfin surge]

ya ret rework killed the ssn

i qd disc turbo s1 df

shit was fun

[dense herald]

S1 was good with hitting 3 mortal strikes in 3 seconds

With unhinged

[fickle forge]

Nah I hate MS spam

[elfin surge]

throwback to sks one shots

[dense herald]

Before the op nerfs

[fickle forge]

I'd rather hit that 600k MS

Giver me fatter not more

[dense herald]

Throwback to s3 shadowlands,i remember watching your video a guy was trying to run away from you but couldnt escape cuz of crushing blow

[elfin surge]

ya i just want execute to hit hard and have 1 large ms every 30 seconds

[elfin surge]

[dense herald]

I hit a 200k mortal strike in s1

[fickle forge]

Execute is a glorified slam

My largest exe in DF is 400k

On 1.8M HP pools

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/bigmoranirl/status/1816567331780432278?s=46&t=XTh2dVvKrzKJ4TvuxlEJUQ

Bigmoran (@BigmoranIRL) on X

Nice little 50-0 from an Arms Warrior critting 4.2 mil.

Twitter · Jul 25, 2024, 8:12 PM

thats colossus arms right

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Demolish hits insanely hard

[elfin surge]

as it should

colossus seems cool

[thick reef]

Put someone in a wheelchair then nuke

[elfin surge]

slayer seems better tho unless the colossus one shot is actually reliable

[fickle forge]

First two hits are like 1M each if they crit as well

Slayer

Sick Execute procs

[elfin surge]

excited to play both slayer and colossus arms

i have beta but theres no point even playing it

everything's going to be different once ssn starts

over a month away

[dense herald]

If they nerf colossus its just trolling

Its a 3s cast that can be feared/stopped

[wheat jay]

just be like survi hunters mud

cry about good reowrk

fucking idiots...

[wheat jay]

cant iirc

[elfin surge]

i really hope we dont play another xpan of m+ arena

pve spam cleave meta

[wheat jay]

we 100% will

[elfin surge]

only win cuz dampening or mana

is so boring

[wheat jay]

all hunters got m+ treatment

afaik rogues too to some degree

so did shamans

and dks

[elfin surge]

m+ driving class design

[wheat jay]

survi hunter is THE most aoe designed class now

no cap

everything is aoe

everything is rng

your rng procs more rng

[elfin surge]

doesnt really need to tho cuz we have pvp modifiers

the pvp team is going along with the m+ builds in arena

by nerfing burst cds in pvp

[fickle forge]

You're only stun and knock immune

[wheat jay]

that's still huge

[elfin surge]

just berserker rage then demolish?

[wheat jay]

you can ye

or you storm boilt and demolish

[elfin surge]

setup?

naaaa

pve cleave pad

yesssss

[fickle forge]

It's def gonna be another micro CC expansion

[wheat jay]

yep

[elfin surge]

u guys see how fucking massive shockwave is with that talent

[wheat jay]

longer cc, bigger, and shorter cd?

or sth like that

[elfin surge]

i want to q tsg and grip into mega cleave

actually farm them like m+ mobs

[fickle forge]

That's WoW now

The AoE Within

[elfin surge]

does anyone have a link of pvp modifiers that were removed with tww?

for arms

i was told they all were but thats not correct

[fickle forge]

That was a beta thing

There was a note somewhere that stated which ones were reverted

[elfin surge]

is avatar 15%

or 20

avatar and csmash nerfs were the most cooked things ever

[lavish quest]

Probably 0%

[elfin surge]

i spammed devs after that

[elfin surge]

fuck

[lavish quest]

"Avatar in PvP is purely cosmetic now."

Woops, did I just leak the next change?

[elfin surge]

it does look rly cool

one of my favorite abilities

[fickle forge]

It gives you a morale increase from getting bigger

They could make Avatar do so much more, but it's just a flat dmg increase

[lavish quest]

Avatar giving CC immunity for the duration and plays the "Run away little girl, run away" sound effect when?

[elfin surge]

they need to unnerf martial prowess

even just slightly man

its 9% in pvp i think

[fickle forge]

Eh, I don't really care too much for OP stacking

[elfin surge]

i do

thats what lets ms do something

either that or giga buff ms base dam

like a lot

[fickle forge]

I'd rather just see MS and Execute always hit hard

Now Legion EP on the other hand

That shit was fire

[elfin surge]

eh theres so much ms resetting

i dont like spamming ms that do nothing

rather stack for large ms

then restack

[fickle forge]

Yeah well same for Exe

[lavish quest]

What if they made slam, SLAM?

JK

[elfin surge]

execute wont hit hard because of massacre and sudden death

[fickle forge]

Blizz keeps making arms throw out more MS and Exes through procs rather than just letting them have some downtime and slap hard

[elfin surge]

blizzard is scared of 35-0 one hits

or cd stacking a exe proc

[fickle forge]

Slayer is the same, just replace Slam with Execute, it'll be just as spamable

[elfin surge]

bfa slam procs

[lavish quest]

Nah, fuck procs. Give it a cast time but it TRUCKS

[worthy fern]

All I want is for a full buffed mortal strike to actually truck

[thick reef]

Bfa slam was sexy asf

[elfin surge]

slam in cata feels so nice

[worthy fern]

We have potentially 6? Modifiers

[elfin surge]

ill say that

even tho for pve

[worthy fern]

6 dmg modifers to hit for the same as an unbuffed rsk

[elfin surge]

actually cata heroic strike

feels so good

[fickle forge]

600k MS felt pretty good this season

But you need like 7 globals for it

[elfin surge]

L

[worthy fern]

You hit one 600k Ms all season I bet

2x op 2x ep with csmash should truck like 1/3 someone’s health

[fickle forge]

I actually hit like 5 of them

But the catch is it only happens on mages that can't kite

😎 👍

[worthy fern]

They should remove battle lord and buff Ms dmg

[elfin surge]

👍

[fickle forge]

Should remove Massacre, Battle Lord, EB and make both abilities truck

[elfin surge]

kinda sad not seeing a mass spell reflect in colossus tree

[worthy fern]

What’s eb

[fickle forge]

MS reset

I miss enduring blow ngl

[elfin surge]

i miss necro banner

[thick reef]

Necro banner was the best and fury was so fun at the end of SL

[hasty fractal]

Pretty sure I already know the answer... but are warriors gonna continue to be crappy at solo pvp (not solo shuffle but 1v1 solo pvp)?

[worthy fern]

Right all Ms resets should be removed

[elfin surge]

god i hope spear gets some buffs im getting so bored of roar

[dense herald]

You no longer have to stand in it for the crit buff

[elfin surge]

ya fury can hold its own a bit but you still lose to everything and will be a target in any wpvp situation

[worthy fern]

Bring back old spear, replace battle lord with Necro banner, make EP a buff on yourself rather than buff on the target.

Debuff on target**

[elfin surge]

Its received so many nerfs over the years

[fickle forge]

All that crit nobody builds

[dense herald]

The only thing i disliked about banner is that it was 2min cd

[elfin surge]

bring back 8s arcane damage spear on a 50s cd

[dense herald]

It didnt line up with avatar and recklessness

[elfin surge]

ya but they die first banner anyways

[urban skiff]

They need to stop this nonsense with having separate cooldowns. Make avatar something that tacks on to recklessness. Same with banner if they bring that back

[sharp meteor]

Missing her. 😭 Conq banner, too.

[fickle forge]

Imagine if arms got that giga haste baseline like rogues do, we could go mast+crit for stats then

[elfin surge]

i hate thunderous roar so much

[urban skiff]

I don't understand why we have droar and odyn's fury at the same time

[sharp meteor]

Esp when your shuffle ret blinds it off.

[urban skiff]

they fill the same niche

just stop giving us duplicate abilities

[elfin surge]

press once and forget its just boring in arena

fun in bgs roar the whole team

but i want to play spear in arena again

actual pvp ability isnt used in pvp

[urban skiff]

just play spear lol. I do

[fickle forge]

Might be good now that roar and battlefield commander are nerfed

[dense herald]

You dont even feel its dmg

[urban skiff]

read the pins

[dense herald]

It deals like 300k over 15seconds

[elfin surge]

need to play whats best or suffer

im going to try spear a bit

[urban skiff]

yeah you're losing so much rating by playing spear lol

[elfin surge]

might be good as tsg again

[fickle forge]

Was kind of wild how roar was tuned higher than spear as well, when roar pens armor

[urban skiff]

spear -> cooldowns -> bladestorm. Wiping out half the classes who can't break out of spear even with the TWW armor

[elfin surge]

spear tsg sounds fun

[fickle forge]

What, in a BG?

[fickle forge]

Might honestly be good, rn frost slaps

[elfin surge]

i forget the spear nerfs is it still perma vortex or does it have limited grips now

[dense herald]

Udk slaps harder

[elfin surge]

im not qn fdk cringe

well, maybe....

[dense herald]

You can just walk out

Rip vortex

[fickle forge]

Frost is literally arms warr

[elfin surge]

wat

[dense herald]

Its literally not

[dense herald]

Idk its buggy

[fickle forge]

Sure it is

[dense herald]

If a class presses a move ability they can walk out

[fickle forge]

KM buff was fat

[dense herald]

Is not

Does dk have execute

🤔

[fickle forge]

Frost retaining two AoE stuns and the silence when UDK lost its stun is fat as well

[fickle forge]

Soul Reaper

[elfin surge]

colossus arms sounds so fuckin giga chad

[fickle forge]

It is

Colossus arms with the perma +5% size as well

[elfin surge]

ya hopefully we arent punching bags next xpan

arms needs to be the tanky melee

[fickle forge]

I think it will be

Still got the old defensive kit and now second wind too

IP buffed when you go colossus as well

[elfin surge]

omg arms is out healing everyone ignore pain op!!!!111

imagine if damage prevented from d stance showed as healing

[fickle forge]

Second Wind is ticking for like 40k on me rn when I am low

[sharp meteor]

I mean spear was good last seas but only for fury

not sure if it's playable anymore

[dense herald]

I got oneshotted by ele shaman

[sharp meteor]

Right? Or mage/hunter/rogue damage kited/avoided?

[dense herald]

And youre talking about 40k healing at 2% hp

[sharp meteor]

Hey guys 21 blinks here but they don't show on details

[fickle forge]

Yip yap

Feel good that arms has potential to be good in TWW

[elfin surge]

kap

[fickle forge]

Why can Mud do reactions

We couldn't do that back in the day

[elfin surge]

another xpan being forced into ret war prob

[elfin surge]

i have become more powerful

[fickle forge]

And lower on the social ladder

[elfin surge]

were u able to see the automod things

i didnt know the msgs that fail to send and were auto modded are shown and logged

[lavish quest]

Why you playing warrior then?

[sharp meteor]

why no reactions in this server anyways

literally 1984

[elfin surge]

im a man

[dense herald]

I feel like there is no pvp team

[sharp meteor]

there is

[dense herald]

No way it took a whole pvp team 2 weeks to nerf ret and for it not to be enough

[sharp meteor]

hope u not saying that in context of prepatch tuning tho holy

[fickle forge]

Yeah

[dense herald]

No prepatch there is no tuning

Thats why its fun

Except the 70% armor

[fierce elm]

its just very very very small

[lavish quest]

Aren't you 13?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072539415261499412.gif?quality=lossless&name=huh&size=48

[elfin surge]

i know people who have close ties to the pvp team

[dense herald]

Ig only way to play warrior now is run death wish as fury warrior

[fickle forge]

Took them 3 months to nerf DH while it was common to face it 20 times in a row

[dense herald]

Tell them to buff warrior

[elfin surge]

i do and they ignore me

[lavish quest]

Ion must main mage I stg

[fickle forge]

Tell them to buff Execute

[dense herald]

They should just nerf cleave by alot in classes and unerf avatar and cs ffs

[elfin surge]

he mains money

[dense herald]

[lavish quest]

Been trying to reroll to that class

[fickle forge]

Dude in Leagion if I connected with Execute it was guaranteed death

I miss it

[elfin surge]

Leagion

[fickle forge]

Leagion

Bro mocking my post-lift grammar, shit's disorienting alright

[dense herald]

Did you hit arms today

[lavish quest]

You're a closet LoL player, don't lie

[fickle forge]

Arms and shoulders

[fickle forge]

Ain't closeted for shit, I'm masters in League

[dense herald]

Wtf

[thick reef]

Dont forget to work ur serratus mate

[urban skiff]

anterior or posterior?

[fickle forge]

I did yesterday bro

[thick reef]

anterior bra

[thick reef]

legendary

[urban skiff]

If it isn't a squat I'm not interested

Wife made me do curls but I was just throwing up out of mindnumbing boredom

[fickle forge]

This is why bro can't make arms work and went fury

[lavish quest]

Eww gross. Touch grass

[fickle forge]

I am right now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797560999799816262/983836369262620773/unknown-17.png?ex=66a4b5c5&is=66a36445&hm=194b1b193238ae5cdc6174d88d722b50ef67a63e33a99138cec7c71b116c0e64&

[urban skiff]

zercher squats and pullups work biceps

and I guess row too

[lavish quest]

What happened if it ain't a squat you ain't interested huh?

[urban skiff]

Pullup is just a squat variation

It's reverse upside down to maximize muscle confusion

It's like booze. Eat liver before drinking, so the alchohol doesn't know what to attack

ya'll notice how this warrior is wearing pvp gear in an article about what pve stuff to do in the prepatch?

https://www.wowhead.com/news/what-to-do-before-the-war-within-expansion-345385

Confirmed that PVP fury warrior is the main character of TWW

[thick reef]

PvP Fury War

[lavish quest]

That art is from season 4 anyways lol

[urban skiff]

What are the weapons?

They kind of look like something from shadowlands

[lavish quest]

Think they are. Or the blood dk artifact from legion

[urban skiff]

Oh shit now I have to log in and check

[elfin surge]

lol i think they are the blood dk artifact weapons

[urban skiff]

It's mythic Sanctum drop

i should know, spent more than enough time in that place

[lavish quest]

I quit after Nathria cutting edge like any normal person with self respect

And quit the whole game I mean, mind you

[hybrid socket]

Stoked for fury in TWW, but curious what people are doing right now in pvp

Bajheera was talking about how fury feels weak right now. Anything trending better than the other right now?

[lavish quest]

Elemental

[granite epoch]

i’ve only ever heard baj hype up fury ??? and i’ve been playing a ton of fury and it feels super stronk

[hybrid socket]

I'm talking specifically pre-patch

[dense herald]

Every physical damage dps sucks in prepatch rn cux theres 50-70% armor

Which is due to scaling

[sharp meteor]

why warr was playable in sl

[lavish quest]

But SL wasn't playable

ALso I wasn't PvPing much then, I was PvE lording

[elfin sinew]

pve in wow ends when you realize the mythic content is being made for 0.1% of total player base

pvp is much more accessible

[urban skiff]

fury feels weak because of read the pins. Currently I'm setting up for another gold rush for when TWW really hits

[dense herald]

People say pvp is not accessibles to new players but lets be real,there are like 2 or 3 pvp addons that help you,and you can get 2.4k in wow quicker than you can get immortal in valorant

Its not as bad as ppl say

[elfin sinew]

hmmm, I had 8 years of break and I came back 3 weeks ago

manged to pull 2k solo shuffle

the game is alright

[dense herald]

I got 2.4k rating as fury warrior in 2 days

[elfin sinew]

heh

[dense herald]

Couldve been 1 if i played enough in 1

[elfin sinew]

I'm really just shitting on pve you know

im 33 so I dont have time to be on a fix schedule and raid too much

then again, I will not get mythic kills anyway

thats why pvp is better

[dense herald]

Ye id say pvp is better for ppl who dont have as much time

If you like it that is

[elfin sinew]

for me, the perfect combo is LFR and then pvp. last xpack I played was early legion though hah

pvp is log in, queue up, play, log out - perfect

[dense herald]

Solo shuffle queues can get a bit long but blizzards been trying to fix that,there are achievements for healers in ss

[elfin sinew]

it's alright

I really like the game, hopefully tww is good

[granite epoch]

shuffle ques don’t seem so bad

mine have average like 10-15 mins

it’s better now when u can queue for solo rbg and shuffle too

[fallen solar]

Yeah that’s why the past seasons I just PvPed. Didn’t have time to raid. I’m 33 as well with a kid

I would love to raid. I just don’t have the time lol

[dense basin]

Hey does anyone know if I can play the 10 rbgs on another warrior that hasn't unlocked artifact weapons, or do I have to level up the warrior that has unlocked these during legion?

[earnest thorn]

How old is your kid? I’m in similar boat tryna figure out how I can make it work

2night / wk raid guild is probably doable when the kid actually stops fighting sleep? Either way I gotta sacrifice my own sleep to game

[fallen solar]

She is almost 2. I do work a 7 day on 7 day off schedule but I never see her when I’m working so when I’m off I always spend time with her. Most my gaming time is at work. I have a gaming laptop. I actually pushed almost to glad at work lol. When I’m home and I put her down, me and my wife watch a show or something then I’ll game for about an hour or two and by that time, I’m exhausted lol.

So most my gaming time is at work but it’s inconsistent because I have to still work so I can’t be in a raid for 3 hours lol

[earnest thorn]

Dam my daughter like 18 months so I get it. With a. Schedule like that yeah I’d probably just PvP too

[fallen solar]

Wouldn’t change it for the world though.

[earnest thorn]

Nah not at all

[left lark]

What are you gems when pvping as arms at the moment?

Per sim I need tons of crit. Ofc DPS is not everything

[fierce elm]

You dont sim in pvp

You gem like mastery/vers depending on your stats

[left lark]

I know it's not accurate. Sometimes I like to get an idea which item does more dmg

[fierce elm]

Because crit is generally poo poo stat

[fierce elm]

what the fuck is THIS

[left lark]

something really bad based on your response

stats of a friend of mine

he is terrible

what would you change

[fierce elm]

Remove like 12% crit, remove like 20% haste, pump vers up to 35%+

[left lark]

I was doing like no dmg with that tho 😦

I mean my friend wasn't

[fierce elm]

I mean you wont do damage right now regardless because armor values are for TWW

and not DF

[left lark]

Did you have a pleasure of meeting an ele shaman in Solo Shuffle? LOL

[next rapids]

Anyone got a feeling for arms or fury rn?

Messing around on arms, not sure if fury might be better atm.

[left lark]

Not sure if me but im fucked since patch

Used to demolish stuff

[next rapids]

Well its laggy and all over the place. My 528 (535 nelt bow) mm was last dps in SS. Aff and ele was 3-4 times dmg.

[fierce elm]

Yes

Because armor values

are once again

scaled for TWW

and not DF

which means any physical hitting spec is going to struggle rn

[wheat jay]

^

[lavish quest]

Strange people sweat prepatch so much

[dense herald]

Will they fox prepatch armor

Fix*

[lavish quest]

Yes. They'll release the next expac and it'll go back to normal

[wheat jay]

in a month, yes

right when we get new expansion

[fallen solar]

If they don’t like the armor values they should just play beta till it closes

[dense herald]

But before will they

Doing 40% less dmg sucks

[wheat jay]

noone knows

but id say the chances are slim

very slim

[lavish quest]

No, why would they waste their time lmao?

[wheat jay]

aushcwitz escapee level slim

[dense herald]

Bro it takes 1 armor reduced by 50% in pvp change

I thought we had pvp team

[wheat jay]

ok but who cares

its prepatch

[dense herald]

Yet no changes in retail and very little on beta

[lavish quest]

It takes 1 change for them to delete mages, yet they haven't done that now have they?

[dense herald]

I do,im dualwielding fyralath and asskandur and im hitting people with the damage of a pringles can

[wheat jay]

ok

so

its prepatch

its off season

nothing you do in pvp matters

[dense herald]

It doesnt when im doing less dmg than i was b4 prepatch

[wheat jay]

it doesnt because its PREPATCH

[dense herald]

1 change and they could make my bg expirience not miserable

[wheat jay]

ok but who cares

you do, okay

[dense herald]

Youre survival scum

[wheat jay]

but blizz doesnt care about you

[midnight cradle]

I think you're supposed to be leveling alts, you know, for your warband

[wheat jay]

ye

enjoy alts

[dense herald]

Kekw

[wheat jay]

play some casual pvp like battlegrounds

maybe some unbalanced prepatch arenas

and thats all

[dense herald]

I have 5 lvl 70s and i only play 1 of them

[dense herald]

Im not gonna win a game with this armor

[wheat jay]

then lose a game

end of story

[midnight cradle]

on the bright side, no warrior is gonna kill you with all your armor 😛

[wheat jay]

its prepatch, noone cares, its off season, nothing matters in pvp now, how many times do i have to say it xD?

blizz got more important shit to take care of

[midnight cradle]

once you're pretty decent, the best way to take your game to the next level is to play your counter class

[wheat jay]

like actual war within first patch

[fierce elm]

hey guys why am I not hitting big dam

[lavish quest]

Skill issue

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/roll-slowpoke-pokemon-rolling-gif-7525170

[dense herald]

Im not playing every other class in the game

I saw trille play warrior today cuz of situations with other classes when he cant do nothing (cant catch up),he said its frustrating or something like thay

He said thats why he couldnt main warrior

[simple rock]

LOL they broke azerite armor

my warr is sonic now

[lavish quest]

Yeah, but you had to put on azerite

[simple rock]

my only reason to log in during pre patch is farming mogs or something anyway

[granite epoch]

just level a shaman and queue solos, every game im in has a fresh ele shaman in honor gear 😂

[lavish quest]

I'm finishing my warrior of every race collection

[sharp meteor]

That's a lot of characters.

I went to do that at one point and it just felt so lifeless.

[lavish quest]

Yes, but it's pretty piss easy now, and I only need 4 more now so, we on the way

[simple rock]

https://tenor.com/view/mcqueen-gif-9449693085032454841

[urban skiff]

my 5 year old still fights sleep. I spend 1.5-2 hours every night putting two kids to bed.
Good luck m8

[rancid granite]

damn the new skill effect updates are legit

warrior has actual like color and animation now

[urban skiff]

the what now

[fallen solar]

I just heard Gojira did the opening ceremony for the Olympics in Paris

Make Metal the worldwide genre

[hybrid socket]

anyone who is currently playing the game

[sharp meteor]

It's pre-patch nothing is real

[hybrid socket]

Just sucks that they'd make the paid game broken and unplayable for weeks. I know this always happens, but still sucks

[rancid granite]

it's playable I was just logged in

you can log in too :)

[fallen solar]

Idk why it’s blank but it appears when you click on it

That’s my numbers for survival hunter.

I’m assuming that shit is getting nerfed cause my god

Mongoose bite, explosive shot and bomb

[rare oak]

Hey gents, anyone else notice execute is delayed atm, both in terms of numbers showing, animation etc?

[amber heron]

guys be honest

bis warrior race in tww

please dont say gnome

[limber relic]

Gnome

[amber heron]

PLEASE

I cant do it bro

i cant be a gnome

its so gay

[limber relic]

Gnomes are bis

[amber heron]

its just so unfair

[violet fossil]

gnome

there’s so many roots

[wary flax]

Well if you play slayer you can get a hero talent for charge to remove all movement imparing effects and give you 70% move speed for 3 seconds. @amber heron there is at least some hope for us non gnomes.

[amber heron]

Ok so is slayer or colossus better

Also does both fury and arms not have like different things

Mountain thane?

So if im not gnome im restricted to a certain build nice

Even with 4 charges

We still wouldnt win vs arcane

[violet fossil]

has an internal cd now

[wary flax]

I'm not actively testing so I can't tell you much, just reading up on the warrior talents every so often. Thanks, I didn't know that there was an ICD, even then it's still nice to have an option besides 60s gnome racial.

[boreal veldt]

so fury pumps in prepatch

just run deathwish

[lethal sandal]

anyone can tell me how much of an impact a fury has in blitz? for example as druid (flag carrier, as rogue (cc bot etc) you have a lot of impact on every single blitz. how does fury compare? what is furys role in blitz? dmg bot and nothing else?

[wheat jay]

same as everyone else, killing

youre not fastest, youre not tankiest

you kill

[lethal sandal]

is fury in any form viable as flag carrier?

maybe with double leap and cd reduction on leap/charge and double safe guard?

anyone has a screenshot of what you see with the new eyes in arena? i read the enemy is outlined red the same as with the DH ability

[dense herald]

Bro

Pilav played a gnome

And he is the best wow pvper i know

[inner sigil]

yo is ret gonna be good in 2s next szn

[wheat jay]

possibly

[inner sigil]

Will they have any mortal wound debuffs

[wheat jay]

no

[inner sigil]

Rip

[dense herald]

Double dps might be making a comeback in tww i heard

Thats the only way ret will be good in 2s

[wheat jay]

ret feral

ret hunter

ret enh

[dense herald]

Ret warrior

[lavish quest]

What self respecting warrior is going to go into 2s?

[fickle forge]

: )

[rugged temple]

how bad are the que times for BG blitz?

[hot solstice]

is there any fix for wow blurry graphics? except for 98% render scale?

[dense herald]

Like 5minutes

[fickle forge]

This is the real reason why 2s suck ass

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206361162430808174/1265016610834485291/image.png?ex=66a5e8c6&is=66a49746&hm=8c2abe2a1d8a265db240a72c9aa6db8d6c084361a7ea3e35036d56bd7781ca76&

Q'ing games 700 mmr above my cr to get +23 after an 8 min match

[soft zodiac]

Any bg blitz build for arms out there?

[lavish quest]

Still faster rating gain than solo with queue times lol

[desert barn]

also looking for and rbg build

[fickle forge]

I'd rather meme this pre patch

[lavish quest]

@elfin surge Can you put in a bot that just says no whenever someone asks about prepatch builds?

[lavish quest]

Fair, I'm just leveling so nothin hot goin on for me. Cleaning my place. Going out. Having some people over later. Wow ded.

[desert barn]

or someone just pin one so people like me can stop asking xD

[lavish quest]

Maybe later I will cook up the most deranged build and post it for you

[hybrid socket]

Doesn't seem like a good time to invest in warrior anything since we're physical damage dealers and armor is over-indexed

[urban skiff]

You say that, but on fury I've been ripping people apart when they aren't kiting me

Like mages just disappear when I spear avatar bladestorm

As fury with 515 weapons

[granite epoch]

they are actually super fast!

[rancid granite]

i mean some people can't or are just too lazy to read 😭 don't be mad at them

not enough time to try somethin' out on their own either

[urban skiff]

Setting boundaries is not being mad at people 🙂

[rancid granite]

i was just bein sarcastic anyway

experimenting is a good learning process though and it's fun

[urban skiff]

I figured, but wanted to make sure to voice it in case you were just being cool on accident

I know people say troar is bis but I just like spear better

It's like people forgot that it's a thing they might have to watch out for

[rancid granite]

it looks cooler and a lot... smoother/cleaner now

[urban skiff]

Spear+barbarian really throws them off

[rancid granite]

love it

[urban skiff]

My spear still look ugly as fuck

Half the time it's sideway instead of normal

It's an old bug too, i struggled with spear in pve since shadowlands

[granite epoch]

What do you me mean i can’t see spear at all since every map i throw it on is already brown

🤓

[urban skiff]

Why didn't the warrior cross the road?

||No path available||

[soft zodiac]

Which pieces of gear should we upgrade for tier?

[urban skiff]

What spec and what game?

[soft zodiac]

Arms

Just for season 4

[urban skiff]

season 4 is over, we're in mid season. Unlike fury you can equip 4 piece so that' good

I'd say just look up highest rated players on murlok.io and if it looks like they're active, do what they do

[soft zodiac]

Ok thanks

[forest thicket]

has anyone gotten pvp builds with new trees?

[sharp meteor]

buff waryor

[fickle forge]

Q 3s and do that to all the ele shamans you'll be facing every game

[urban skiff]

ele shaman are next level right now. That's not a comment on warriors being weak but them being stronk

[grand spire]

That's just a joke what they did with shamelem

[boreal veldt]

i wish arms could run deathwish

[amber heron]

@boreal veldt I mean

50% more dam would not even make us B tier

unfort

[fickle forge]

You'll do double dam when armor counts are down dw dw

[urban skiff]

yea

also gonna be rolling as thane so most of my dam will ignore armor

[narrow compass]

Beta patch notes giving them a nerf and all rogue specs a hefty buff.

[dense herald]

Why thane bro

Slayer superior

[urban skiff]

It's sleeper. I was first mover on crit condemn and i'm going to be first mover on thane fury as well

[dense herald]

Youre gonna be cleaving everybody?Its basic fury rotation except thunderclap replaces whirlwind

Or well you use tc instead of whirlwind

From what ive seen

[urban skiff]

Thane takes reduced damage permanently, beefy burst procs that people can't predict or prevent, cleave is rotational so it's free damage

[fickle forge]

Don't even think Condemn was ever that good

S1 arms just had ass legendaries and frost DK made any other button but Condemn worthless

Heartstop Aura was garbage

[urban skiff]

bro what? It's all people complained about after s1

[dense herald]

Bro did not play s1 shadowlands

[urban skiff]

Condemn with executioner so it had a mini charge and it also provide a shield

Just spam condemn all day every day

[dense herald]

Condemn with the execute charge was the way

[urban skiff]

It only lost its spot as the top dog when we got necro fury for the final season

[dense herald]

Bro

Idk why

They take away all the fun from arms

[urban skiff]

I kinda get it, but I wish they hadn't taken executioner away from us. I liked that little charge on fury

[dense herald]

Blizzard:
Good survivability?fuck you
Execute charging?fuck you
Doing damage?fuck you
Doing damage again with another build?fuck you

[urban skiff]

even with the icd, i just have too much dumb brain to make my own weakaura to track the ICD

[dense herald]

I wish i played warriot b4 shadowlands

Or seriously b4 df

In dragonflight:
They nerfed warbringer
They nerfed crit
They nerfed spear
They nerfed sks
They nerfed defensive stance
They nerfed unhinged
They nerfed avatar
They nerfed colossus smash
They nerfed stuns

[fickle forge]

Funny how necro overtook as soon as EB was added

Condemn opened up for EP, other covs really didn't have a lego

[urban skiff]

necro overtook in the second half of the 4th season. Condemn was rolling from mid/late s1 all the way up to necro fury

In my mind crit condemn absolutely dominated all of shadowlands

[fickle forge]

That's literally not true at all lmao

[urban skiff]

I don't think anybody complained about necro at any point even when it was good

[fickle forge]

Condemn was dropped immediately when EB was added

S2-4 was all necrolord

For arms and fury

[amber heron]

I mean

I think u guys are jut not smart enough

to go against the grain

Now is the time to try and reinvent the wheel

Why is no one trying new builds w new stats

[urban skiff]

I'm going fury thane, my intuition is telling me it's cooking in secret

[amber heron]

no im talking rn in the prepatch

fuck the other shit they are not even done tuning it

[fickle forge]

Cause prepatch doesn't matter?

You gonna go grind prepatch glad?

[amber heron]

at the last minute they will be like oh -10% ms +60% overpower

[urban skiff]

Not much to experiment with in prepatch. Fury is already locked down on playstyle after they removed those talents. I'm playing spear so I guess I'm already going against the grain

[amber heron]

what talents did they remove?

[urban skiff]

annie OF build was peak fury

Just anger-smash the buttons

[amber heron]

IM talking about running a full crit build w some mastery

[urban skiff]

eh

Doesn't really work like that for fury

[amber heron]

no for arms

[fickle forge]

Experimenting with warrior rn doesn't matter anyway when we do 10% the damage of other specs

[urban skiff]

ah ok. I've been saying for ages now people are sleeping on crit

going from 5% crit to 10% crit is literally doubling your crit chance

Which you're definitely going to feel even though your numbers look lower

[fickle forge]

I mean

You could get 5% dmg instead

Flat

It's more damage overall

[urban skiff]

Depends on what you like

[amber heron]

yea the armor change

is awkward

[fickle forge]

I mean it's objectively better

[urban skiff]

You can be predictable and try to be unhealable or you can be chaotic and throw people off balance

[fickle forge]

We only wanted a bit of crit this season because our tier set relied on it

[urban skiff]

In my experience chaos works really well against people who script their fights

[fickle forge]

The meta was PvE

Overall dps is what mattered

[urban skiff]

Nah

I know they keep saying that on r/worldofpvp but it's not true

[fickle forge]

Weird how it was the meta and playstyle of every comp then 🤔

[urban skiff]

The meta was "do damage"? lol

SHOCKING

[fickle forge]

Yes

[urban skiff]

The meta has always been "do damage". Somehow the community suddenly had a collective brain bleed and decided that meant arena turned into m+

[fickle forge]

It literally hasn't

Shadowlands was about burst and cooldowns

[urban skiff]

If you had a magic wand and with a swing of it could give yourself either infinite damage or infinite cc, at the cost of zero of the other, you'll always go for damage.

[fickle forge]

PvEflight has been about dampening and making people go oom

[urban skiff]

this is literally "do damage" meta

[fickle forge]

???

[fierce elm]

needs

merds

nerds

fuck

[fickle forge]

Non-nerd guy

Was this a PvE season or nah?

[fierce elm]

tus season sucks

fuck wow

[boreal veldt]

@fierce elm doin alright bud?

[fierce elm]

me drunk

[boreal veldt]

hell yeah

[fierce elm]

off work sat-mon

duck the boss

[dense herald]

🤡

Yea man rets in s1 facerolling is really what pvp should be

Fury warriors oneshotting s3 and s4

[fickle forge]

What are you yapping about bro

[dense herald]

Like bro

If you play warriot

You are in a rotation simulator

In pvp

Its just the way it is

You dont have cc

[fickle forge]

No like I don't get what you're trynna say

[dense herald]

If youre a mage you can poly and shit

[dense herald]

Shadowlands was pve zug zug aswell

[fickle forge]

But it literally wasn't, you'd one shot somebody with your crazy modifiers

You pressed conq banner and if the enemy fk'd up and didn't have a defensive for it they'd instantly flop

[dense herald]

Yeah thats called bad balancing

[fickle forge]

Was way more scripted

[dense herald]

Not good game design

[fickle forge]

It's way better design than now

SL had good diversity

[dense herald]

Actually i agree with you

Its not pve thats killing pvp

[fickle forge]

Now we see the same 3 comps, made out of 3 specs, cause those 3 specs happen to do more sustained dmg than the other specs

[dense herald]

Its that blizzard is making the classes more sustain in pvp

Like they keep buffing ms and nerfing major cds

Pvp is about burst and trading cooldowns

Rn feels like in 2s run down healer before the other dps runs down your healer

Or 3s feels like how well can i optimize pressing ms on cd

Ok that made no sense but

I felt like i had no burst in s4

Just doing damage all around

[rancid granite]

bro stay away from that place for your own good

[wheat jay]

Cc nerfs were a big factor

And how every class has everything now

Just like we played today, I literally have too much shit to press on survi

And dmg rotation is 3 buttons

Dh has more buttons

Survi dmg still plays well cuz those 3 buttons are well designed

But man having 10cc, 10 peels, and then small shit like flare, hunters mark, purge etc

Blizz has to prune cc really fucking hard imo

[dense herald]

No pvp team

Think of how many changes wow pvp has had

In beta and retail

Like s3 and s4

S1 they were bringing changes every other week

[wheat jay]

In all honesty all changes from start of df have been bad for pvp

Cc should be pruned, duration should be increased

Survi was doing VERY well with stun, trap, and root

[dense herald]

Yeah they can revert the changes

And make dr harsher

[hot solstice]

make crit 200%

[wheat jay]

Now I got that, and scatter, and 2nd stun, and disarm, and knockback, and silence

[dense herald]

Or something like that

[wheat jay]

Absolutely not

[dense herald]

Why not

[wheat jay]

Crit being high makes for too too volatile playstyle

Ok lets have survi right now for example

[hot solstice]

at least make crit viable

[wheat jay]

Cds, +20% dmg, high mastery, +15% dmg from stacks of tip, then 30% crit dmg and crit chance on top of that

[hot solstice]

only hpala gears it

on purpose

[dense herald]

Aka fun

[wheat jay]

Or warrior we had now, avatar 20%, cyclone was like 15% or so, i dont remember, cs 30%

[dense herald]

They should make crit 200% in like non rated pvp

[wheat jay]

And then you'd cry you got onehsot

[dense herald]

Or maybe thatll make rogues in duels more op

[hot solstice]

honestly colosus would feel nice if all specs havent got some extra mobility

but now u just keep ur shockwave and hope to oneshot somebody with demolish

[dense herald]

They are gonna gut demolish

[hot solstice]

demolish isnt even lining much with other cds

[wheat jay]

Theres a reason its not high now, people were getting oneshot by low crit classes that stacked mastery, and any class that had cds that gave crit were nuking everyone

[hot solstice]

have to delay ur closus or avatar

doesnt feel ok

[dense herald]

Demolish cant oneshot but deal like 50% i think,which is still alot

[wheat jay]

Gotta delay to get max value, it is what it is

[hot solstice]

its does

but playing around it feels meh

[wheat jay]

Youre not rly pressing avatar and cs off cd at all times anyway

[hot solstice]

its realy hard to catch anything outside it

[dense herald]

Demolish makes anger management useless

[wheat jay]

Ye, so?

[dense herald]

Wasted talent point

[wheat jay]

Cant have everything

[hot solstice]

rage starving feels bad aswell

[wheat jay]

Then take different talent

[dense herald]

The other talent is nerfed avatar with longer cd

[wheat jay]

Or play slayer

[dense herald]

Fury will be the go

Slayer fury

[hot solstice]

nah its just sl ww gameplay

[dense herald]

Or whoever said mountain,was it u artji

[hot solstice]

just kill somebody in legsweep

take that mage for healer poly

and try to kill something every 30sec

[wheat jay]

Ye, I said its possible

All will come down to tuning

[hot solstice]

like

[wheat jay]

It wouldnt be weird for sth we dont expect to be meta

[hot solstice]

compared to dks changes

warrior feels pathetic

[dense herald]

Man

[hot solstice]

damn coil procks hits harder than apoc

[dense herald]

You gotta understand

Warriors arent even side character

Theyre extras

Blizz doesnt care

[wheat jay]

Inb4 warr is meta again

[dense herald]

Last time warrior was meta was 1.5 years ago

[fierce elm]

Didnt literally DF have about 3 seasons of meta

or like warrior being at minimum A tier

[wheat jay]

Yes

[fierce elm]

While SL had at minimum 2 seasons

of warrior being S tier

[wheat jay]

3

[dense herald]

4

[wheat jay]

S3 was fury

[fierce elm]

yeah I only played 2 lmao

[wheat jay]

S1 and s2 was arms

[hot solstice]

so?

[dense herald]

S4 was fury aswell

Even tho nerfed

[hot solstice]

nobody saying rogues have been s tier forever?

lmao

[wheat jay]

Ye except everyone says that

[hot solstice]

ye

[dense herald]

Yeah every patch theres atleast 1 overperforming rogue spec

[wheat jay]

Even when warrior is underperforming its still one of the better classes due to its design

[dense herald]

You nerf 1 other one will be meta

[fierce elm]

Rogue has always been rolled by Warrior if Warrior has been meta regardless

[hot solstice]

cant wait to catch dhs with 2 glimpses

[dense herald]

Arms warrior tww design

The pve folks are dooming

And we're pve simulator at this point

[fierce elm]

what kinda shit are yall s m o k i n g

[wheat jay]

Class will still be amazing in pvp due to all the shit you have

You have answer to everything, and warr is always doing good dmg

[fierce elm]

I mean ret/warr has been a decent comp, TSG was more than decent this season

while Arms wasn't exactly meta

[wheat jay]

Thunder was a very good comp in s4 too

Actually best warr comp

[dense herald]

Crap i sent nsfw msg

Gonna get banned now

[fierce elm]

rip

[fickle forge]

Crit is only viable when abilities or buffs interact with it

Which is never

[simple aurora]

a good pvp build for right now?

i got the honor gear rn btw

[boreal veldt]

dk is a pretty good build

[distant kraken]

where i can find builds for bg arms?

i don't play arenas only bgs :/

@ me

[fierce elm]

its the same builds

But you can also just experiment

[distant kraken]

same as the single target dps for raids?

[fierce elm]

arena

[gray ruin]

can someone help me learn how to play fury war in arena

[cinder thorn]

Yes, rampage every time you have the rage for it, that's pretty much it

It's the easiest spec to play in the game I think

But it might give you RSI or arthritis from repetitive clicks

So generate rage with your other abilities and spend it with rampage only

[leaden pasture]

Hello, I'm playing Fury spec and I was wondering about cooldown management. My opener starts with four cooldowns: Odin's Fury, Recklessness, Avatar, and Thunderous Roar. However, Recklessness and Avatar have 1.5-minute cooldowns, while Odin's Fury and Thunderous Roar have 45-second cooldowns. Should I use Thunderous Roar and Odin's Fury again while the others are on cooldown, or wait until all four are back up? I'm primarily interested in 3v3 Arena and 3v3 Solo Shuffle.

[lavish quest]

Keep sending them

Try to line them up with each other when you can, but try to basically use on CD without wasting them if that makes sense.

Sometimes minorly delaying based off enemy defensives etc. Depends on situations.

[leaden pasture]

@lavish quest Thank You

[lavish quest]

Just try not to delay long because it might meant you get 1 less use in the match, which is a big value loss.

If your main KT has defensives up, often it can be worth to send it on another target to get more defensives.

[leaden pasture]

ok nice!

[lavish quest]

As a warrior you really just want to get big pressure out early and fast and then not let up.

[cinder thorn]

https://youtu.be/jhygeA6tFu4?si=6i-UykCpSO1rFPgJ

Seeing this really makes me want to quit

I had a feeling there were some cases when I pvp where people had unholy reaction times to my casts

Now I see why

[rancid granite]

it happens; don't let'm getcha down

[sharp meteor]

why lol

usually they just get 6 monthed together

[lavish quest]

Just be better than the bots

:)

[faint pumice]

Rshammy lf teammates 2s/3s. I’ve switched from warrior to rshammy and now gonna heal only warr+somebody. That’s my input to society.

I’ve played warr on 2.2k, now I am 1.6 rshammy😅

Add me we can play sometimes:
Terror#23359

[elfin sinew]

soo, should we add crit in prepatch like in pve?

in exchange for haste?

[sharp meteor]

@woeful solstice so was it a pilot or selfplay

[sharp meteor]

nah crit bad opt into other stats for pvp

if games really bursty can maybe see a case for arms

[hoary latch]

new to warr here, do you ever press slam or waste of rage

[urban skiff]

I visit for the articles

[rancid granite]

it's 99% super sad and depressing 😔

[sharp meteor]

the reddit? it's just like a 2k shuffle doomposting despair chamber

sort of like every other place to discuss pvp

[cinder thorn]

No to slam

[cinder urchin]

before the pre patch it could be used as the last thing you could press when everything else is on CD

now it is just a waste of rage

try cleave and spam cleave when Overpower or Mortal is on CD

[hoary latch]

ty

[dense herald]

Cleave?

In pvp?

[urban skiff]

Cleave pumps now

I have no idea why people say it because I'm fury but that isn't going to stop me from parroting them

[hot solstice]

Rage starving + tactician is killing me

As well as yellow execute

[fickle forge]

I ain't rage starved ever atm

Sometimes I am tactician starved, but I can always press something

[rugged temple]

why did it take 9 declines to get into a BG blitz match. What are people doing?

[urban skiff]

they're trying to wintrade

The wintraders are currently trying to figure out how to get it right so they can sell a better product in TWW s1

Super easy with duo queue with healers.

[rugged temple]

[marble crystal]

Any builds posted?

[fierce elm]

best build 2026 for tww arms gameplay

[fickle forge]

What's the best build for sword and board arms in TWW S4?

[urban skiff]

what profession is best for arms

[boreal veldt]

what toy is best to use for arms execute?

[fickle forge]

Night fae flute

[dense herald]

What gaming chair is best for arms

[fickle forge]

Where craft unity?

[dense herald]

I once met a healer in lfg,i was doing 2s,i realised he had both unity and covenant legendary equiped

[fickle forge]

He needed it okay

12 sec long spear duration

[rancid granite]

fae harp*

[dense herald]

It was a hpala

Also unity doesnt stack afaik

[fickle forge]

He needed the double blessing of summer

[lavish quest]

What arms build is best for pet battles?

[wheat jay]

Valkyr

[violet fossil]

Is there any builds posted for midnight s4

[robust cloak]

what arms build is best for leg day in gym?

[cinder urchin]

yea i know it sound hillarious but it seems blizzard took the "cleave" thing too literal

[violet fossil]

I’d look at the top guys in arena and ss

and see what they’re running

[marble crystal]

Thanks Kane.

[rugged temple]

does it matter anymore what server you are on for PVP? like will i get better BG blitz ques on a certain server?

[amber heron]

why does skullsplitter seem lije

it makes me do less dps

like i press it and i feel worse

i would have rather rpessed mortal strike XD

i dont know how thats possible

[sharp meteor]

Nope.

[amber heron]

bro i just played a shjuffle on arms warrior

[sharp meteor]

why would u do that 🗞️

[amber heron]

yea i know

[lavish quest]

Why are you playing warrior? lul

Clueless

[amber heron]

they should put a warning on the shuffle que

to not play

its actually weird they dont

They need to add some flavor into arms

its so boring

[rugged temple]

40 min que times for shuffle as dps

[amber heron]

is sod still a thing?

or is that dead

[spice hornet]

It’s probably poppin rn with p4

Played all the other phases a ton but the PvP is awful so I just find myself on retail

It’s classic with wrath abilities and new pve content, can’t expect too much from it

[amber heron]

i logged on