pvp

[bright kraken]

Bro I remember it was like 20k gold

[fierce elm]

Idk ive been on vacation for 1.5 weeks

I bought mine for 7k I think

or 5k something

[bright kraken]

In surprised rousing ire is still (kinda) selling

[sturdy valve]

4,400 is what i just bought it for.

Not that expensive

I mean that was almost half my gold but worth I guess.

[lavish quest]

@bright kraken Go find two R1s, tell em you're an Egirl, and maybe they'll take you to glad.
Good luck

[sturdy valve]

I mean, I kinda want to actually be good at pvp when I hit 2400 lol

[fierce elm]

lmao

reroll holy priest

[sturdy valve]

Not an obvious carried to 2400 haha

[bright kraken]

Is mud EU or NA

[lavish quest]

Bruh, I have 6 mill and that's too expensive for me

[lavish quest]

NA LOL

[sturdy valve]

I need to farm gold in the off season

[wheat jay]

Thats 16 hours of playing with lontar sheeeeeeeesh

Imma grind m+ boosts and buy glad easy

[sturdy valve]

Oh, one of the top warriors I was looking at last night, on the leaderboards had like 40% haste

[wheat jay]

@fierce elm wanna play with lontar next expansion?

[fierce elm]

no lmao

[lavish quest]

I've heard that name but know next to nothing about them

[wheat jay]

Fair

[wheat jay]

Best healer in wow rn

[fierce elm]

I dont wanna play with people that are good at the game

because they are objectively cancer people

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge F

[lavish quest]

Prob what I should start doing lmao

[wheat jay]

I mean, ye xD

Its easier that way

Bitch way, but an easier way still

[fierce elm]

Sure love playing with a streamer calling me subhuman because I didnt know the moon alignment changed the weather in game and made me walk to the side and force him to dispel me

[elfin surge]

bruh

[lavish quest]

Oh, yeah, a healer. That's why I don't care

Kek

[wheat jay]

Hey mud

[fierce elm]

”Oh my god noob you dont know this extremely niché thing evoker does smh subhuman SCUM”

[elfin surge]

green yoyo pinged me

[fierce elm]

@elfin surge

[wheat jay]

He once said im allergic to blur

[fierce elm]

yeah hard pass

[wheat jay]

And in shuffle that i never kick

[fierce elm]

Got flamed by someone in shuffle who is still 2k while I am not

FeelsGoodMan

[elfin surge]

yolo yuffle?

[fierce elm]

yoyo yuyyle

[sturdy valve]

I know there might be some downsides to solo shuffle, but tbh I probably wouldn't have gotten into pvp this season if not for it.

[wheat jay]

Green?

[elfin surge]

hate shuffle

[wheat jay]

Wtf

[lavish quest]

The yoyo is purple on my phone

[sturdy valve]

Finding a 2v2 or 3v3 is not fun.

[elfin surge]

🪀

[wheat jay]

Same

[elfin surge]

it green

[lavish quest]

Mud exposed as color blind?! O.o

[fierce elm]

its gray

[wheat jay]

Afro on old nokia

No colors yet

[fierce elm]

it really isnt

I need a new phone tbh

Gotta buy a laptop for school too

aids spending

[elfin surge]

L_?

[fierce elm]

L9

[lavish quest]

A phone. And a laptop.
iN tHiS eCoNoMy?

[sturdy valve]

I am not super impressed that the best pvp weapon is from pve. But maybe that's not so bad.

[fierce elm]

Friend tryna get me into league again

[lavish quest]

It's orange. Of course it's best.
You think they'll ever make an orange come from PvP?
Good luck with that one

[lavish quest]

No

[fierce elm]

I need something to play pre-patch until Launch

Leage looks fun

[wheat jay]

F

[fierce elm]

I need to hit GM if I ever play again tho

Or I dont have the motivation for it

[lavish quest]

Elden Ring

Thank me later

[fierce elm]

That is true

I did start the DLC

then went on vacation

[lavish quest]

Afro's actually just ballin'???

[fierce elm]

Gotta do DLC and kill Elden Beast

[lavish quest]

Wait, you never killed the beast?

[fierce elm]

Stopped right before due to talk of DLC

Have done everything else in base game lmao

[lavish quest]

Did you not play base when it released?

[fierce elm]

I did

But I took time with it

And then stopped before ending

I wanna do DLC first and finish that

then slap final boss with w.e weapon I like the most

[lavish quest]

Taking time with it. 2 years and still not through.

[fierce elm]

Yeah lmao

I hard play it for x months

then stop playing

So yeah, did some DLC mostly explored, picked up a few weapons, killed one non-important boss

Remembered how to play the game after being fist fucked by the first Gaol boss basically

[lavish quest]

Elden Ring was the first game I really degen'd ngl.

[fierce elm]

Took 25 attempts lmao

Have degened, Sekiro, DS3, Bloodborne

Every fallout game, every civ game

[lavish quest]

Weekend it released I played like 15 hrs a day till going back to work

[fierce elm]

I might have the tism

GF watched me play 10 hours of Cyberpunk when dlc released every day for a week

because I took time off work lmao

[sturdy valve]

I went home over the weekend (My gaming computer is where I work) and came back last night and the first match was so bad lol. I was lost. Like I almost did the ol just slap the keyboard in a panic.

I did a lot better in the next games but wow I was horrid that first game.

[fierce elm]

lmao

Just gotta breathe man

[lavish quest]

Stay calm and bladestorm on

[sturdy valve]

The best match of the night I didn't hit record.

And fixed some gear issues getting my mastery up and was top damage most rounds.

[lavish quest]

You should record the bad ones, not the good ones

[sturdy valve]

Well I try and record them all, but technically at 1600s, they are all bad haha

Like I am pretty well geared, in that I got a 528 pc in every slot anyway

I gotta get sockets on my gear though, and some other changes.

The legendary weapon aint happening, I am not going to pve anymore this season.

[lavish quest]

How much dam u do?

[bright kraken]

Bro has a gr

Gf

No wonder he doesn't have glad

[lavish quest]

Just doing big dam might get you 2400

[fierce elm]

lmao

Im not some dweeb

[lavish quest]

He's a wow player, he's 🧢 ing

[sturdy valve]

Not that much damage haha

[bright kraken]

Or at least 2.1k

[fierce elm]

Im a well adjusted person

[lavish quest]

It took Vesa 10k rounds to learn just do more dam

[sturdy valve]

1. Cayya ........... 6.71M (65.4k, 29.8%)
2. Jötunheïm .... 5.88M (57.3k, 26.1%)
3. Evisceratex .. 5.47M (53.3k, 24.3%)
4. Lightnîng ..... 3.64M (35.4k, 16.1%)
5. Vaesin ......... 800.2K (7.8k, 3.6%)

Details!: Damage Done for [Arena] Mugambala (12 previous fights) [2:44 EF]
1. Cayya ........... 12.15M (74.2k, 28.1%)
2. Evisceratex .. 10.70M (65.4k, 24.8%)
3. Lightnîng ..... 10.09M (61.6k, 23.3%)
4. Jötunheïm .... 7.92M (48.4k, 18.3%)
5. Instintz ........ 1.55M (9.5k, 3.6%)

Details!: Damage Done for [Arena] Mugambala (11 previous fights) [2:58 EF]
1. Cayya ........... 14.83M (83.4k, 31.0%)
2. Evisceratex .. 11.11M (62.5k, 23.2%)
3. Jötunheïm .... 10.07M (56.6k, 21.0%)
4. Lightnîng ..... 8.67M (48.8k, 18.1%)
5. Vaesin ......... 1.90M (10.7k, 4.0%)

Details!: Damage Done for [Arena] Mugambala (10 previous fights) [2:04 EF]
1. Cayya ........... 10.78M (86.9k, 31.1%)
2. Jötunheïm .... 8.19M (66.0k, 23.7%)
3. Lightnîng ..... 7.79M (62.8k, 22.5%)
4. Evisceratex .. 6.32M (50.9k, 18.3%)
5. Vaesin ......... 1.54M (12.4k, 4.4%)

Details!: Damage Done for [Arena] Mugambala (9 previous fights) [2:10 EF]
1. Cayya ........... 10.31M (79.1k, 24.8%)
2. Jötunheïm .... 9.56M (73.4k, 23.0%)
3. Evisceratex .. 9.32M (71.6k, 22.4%)
4. Lightnîng ..... 9.10M (69.8k, 21.8%)
5. Instintz ........ 1.83M (14.1k, 4.4%)```

That was rounds 2-6

So yeah, looks like still noob dps

I was just with other noobs haha

Was just exciting because so far I have rarely had top dps

In another match I out dps'd a lock which was nice.

[lavish quest]

I feel like you should be going like 100k

[sturdy valve]

I probably should, I need to work on uptime

[bright kraken]

No?

[lavish quest]

I don't remember what my numbers are. But probably around 100k

[sturdy valve]

I HATE it when they want to go mage

I can't say on a mage for fuck

[bright kraken]

Imagine that's like a caster lobby lmao

Double mage lock

[lavish quest]

What were you learning in the 10k rounds?

[bright kraken]

Double mage feral

[bright kraken]

It was 6.8k and it was more proper usage of abilities

Like cc and shit

And targetting

[sturdy valve]

Oh that damage above was a "Me, DK, rogue, enhance shaman" lol

[lavish quest]

Does that include last season's?

I'm counting both lol

[sturdy valve]

So actually most rounds were great for cleave

[dense herald]

Depends on matchup man

[bright kraken]

Both seasons ig shrug

[dense herald]

Just spam ms on cd and overpower inbetween and when u done have op or ms thunderclap

[lavish quest]

I mean into melee cleaves my numbers go up to like 130-150k probs

[sturdy valve]

I would share a video of my pvp soon for yall to to review. Will share like 4 rounds, couple where I win and a couple where i lose.

Not a fancy video ofc, just a video to see.

[lavish quest]

Sometimes getting a kill in the opener from 300k BORST

[dense herald]

What rating are you 1.5k

[lavish quest]

2.4k

They suck up there too

[sturdy valve]

I was actually impressed with deep wounds damage last night.

[bright kraken]

Nah he's 1.5

[fierce elm]

Leland is 200

[lavish quest]

Let the record state.
I hate you all.

[bright kraken]

He's a loonie bin shuffle player

[dense herald]

Im 2.4k,well 2.3k now cuz of that bug that made me leave the ss b4 i joined and lose rating

[lavish quest]

So are you, furry

[fierce elm]

they do suck up here

[dense herald]

People are not that bad

At 2.4k

[fierce elm]

they are

[dense herald]

To die in opener

[fierce elm]

they do

[dense herald]

Well ig i play with higher mmr

Or something

[lavish quest]

They lose to a warrior at 2.4k. THEY SUCK LOL

[bright kraken]

Nah I'm queueing 3s ATM loser

[fierce elm]

that might just be a ret thing though

[dense herald]

I mean ive went 6-0 at 2.4k

Ive also went 0-6

[lavish quest]

I'm queuing IRL nerd

[dense herald]

So depends ig

[fierce elm]

beat you both im waiting on a train

[lavish quest]

If we mean this exact moment. I'm at work.

[fierce elm]

rolled loser

Peak of my vacation was watching a friend get the swedish IRS logo tatted on his asscheek

[lavish quest]

Then outside of work. I go hang with people or play volleyball or something

[fierce elm]

L

stay inside

play wow

[lavish quest]

Lil bit of gaming but meh

[fierce elm]

then ask here how many hours to hit glad

[lavish quest]

Wow ded rn

[sturdy valve]

Something I just tried improving is my use of storm bolt. Like i want to storm bolt the healer and had storm bolt set up on a mouseover macro. So been mousing over the healer's health bar when I want to storm bolt. But it totally messes with my uptime on target cause i don't stay on him well while doing it.

So I set up a set focus hotkey and a stormbolt focus hotkey, which is working decent.

I want to buy the razer naga pro or whatever mouse it is that has all the buttons that they make for left handers. I think that could help a lot for some of my harder to do hotkeys.

[fierce elm]

GAMING MOUSE

neeeerd

[bright kraken]

Probably negligible but something that did surprise me

In shuffle, stormbolt healer

In 3s, stormbolt kill target

[sturdy valve]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126404013379?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1Vxv2aTJ_Tf-Wb45ykjL6JQ10&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=126404013379&targetid=2320093655185&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9026266&poi=&campaignid=21214277413&mkgroupid=163556404309&rlsatarget=pla-2320093655185&abcId=9407520&merchantid=6296724&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwnK60BhA9EiwAmpHZw0b7vgjVI8Vma283uqXTk-oRqp9DNE21qxWLHolpw_w9TAmzVdiE5RoC2wEQAvD_BwE

Thats what I am getting.

[fierce elm]

this all depends a lot lmao

There is never a flat rule who to stun generally

I got a g502, goated mouse

dont need buttons

[sturdy valve]

Well I do stormbolt other than healer if I don' thave shockwave up and they are smashing my friend hard.

or fear

But generally on the dps I use shockwave

I do shockwave the healer sometimes too if they are close lol

I am left handed and use the numpad for my hotkeys though.

I made right arrow remapped to alt lol

[lavish quest]

My mobility, cc, offensives, trinkets, and defensives are all on my mouse

[fierce elm]

Nerd

[sturdy valve]

Yeah right now I got a logitch mouse but only has 5 buttons on it that I use.

2 on each side and one in the middle

[fierce elm]

why do yall need all these binds lmao

like c h r i s t

[sturdy valve]

There is actually 2 in the middle but one is hard to hit and its not working lol

I counted that I got like 28 binds

How many do you have?

[fierce elm]

no idea

But with just a regular mouse I got 4 binds left over lmao

[sturdy valve]

24 that are pretty necessity I think.

[fierce elm]

I just use shift+alt+some ctrl

works out great

[sturdy valve]

I have ignore pain, blade storm, avatar, and die by the sword set up on my mouse.

The last button is for push to talk so I don't use it for anything even though I don't use push to talk while in arena

[lavish quest]

Only mod I use is alt. The others suck to hit

[fierce elm]

I got big hands

[sturdy valve]

I actually gimped my gear for the pvp mogs lol

I wanted the full onyx crucible gear so I changed my belt and bracers to just make sure I got the full mog

having to rebuy the guy with conquest lol, cause it has the wrong stats.

[fierce elm]

I did that on warr too lmao

gonna do it on my main once season is close to end

[sturdy valve]

I could totally tell I was hitting WAY les sharder too.

[lavish quest]

I too have big hands. I just hate bending the pinky back like that

[sturdy valve]

I had well over 20 percent crit and mastery was pretty low

[fierce elm]

Fair

[lavish quest]

Alt I just slap with the thumb

[sturdy valve]

My next problem keybind is my berserker rage tbh. I use right arrow plus numbpad + (Remember right arrow is my alt)

And I have a really hard time hitting it fast for some reason.

But will remap that when I get a new mouse.

[lavish quest]

I just use C

=)

[sturdy valve]

Actually, maybe I should use right arrow and page down....

That should be ez

[fierce elm]

the fuck

[sturdy valve]

I am left handed!

[fierce elm]

oh yeah

nvm lmao

I was like what the fuck

[lavish quest]

I'm also left handed. Although not for a computer I guess

[sturdy valve]

I have heavily considered switching to right hand many times.

But my mouse control would be shit for a while.

I actually only write and use mouse left handed

[lavish quest]

Probably just the way I learned it.
But like I'll write and shoot a bow/gun left handed

[sturdy valve]

Do everything else like throw and bat right handed

shoot right handed

[lavish quest]

But throwing and such I use right

Left smart hand. Right stronk hand

[sturdy valve]

I actually did everything left handed when I was little and wanted to be right handed like my brother for baseball so made myself go right handed haha

At the time I could actually throw further left handed

Not anymore though

Its awkward as fuck trying to throw left handed now

But the hotkeys I don' tthink is my issue really. yeah they can improve but thats not my biggest issues lol

My biggest issues is stuff like knowing who I should be hitting or cc'ing and uptime.

I think.

[lavish quest]

I'm 6'4 and left handed. This world was very much not made for me

[sturdy valve]

Question.

My mortal strike when I mouse over says it does 25% reduced healing

When I hit something, and look at the debuff, it says 50%

Do I got a talent or something increasing that?

or is tooltip busted?

[fierce elm]

PvP nerf

[sturdy valve]

Also when I sharpen blade someone, I don't see any change to debuffs.

[lavish quest]

Everything warrior does is nerfed in PvP

Sharpen is 50% for 4 sec

[cinder thorn]

Is there a good melee positioning video for arenas?

All I can find is ranged/caster positioning videos

I know casters want open areas and we want pillars but what if the casters go to the corners of the map or middle of map and when do you chase vs break off etc

[lavish quest]

The real short icon

[fierce elm]

Melee positioning against casters/ranged is chase

but dont chase out of line of your healer if you risk death

Can run away to pillar or line if they pop cds

or if healer is sitting cds and yall are taking dick

[cinder thorn]

OK so let's say two enemy casters

You go for one he runs behind pillar

Meanwhile other one taking pot shots at you

If you chase they cc behind pillar and you die

If you break off he pops his head out and takes shots whilst his friend does the same

What do you do

If you run back to your pillar they surround the pillar and start alternating shots and now you're on top of you're healer so he's vulnerable to Cc

I am findingmit difficult to decide when to chase and when to break off

I know about not LOSing my healer

But apart from that what

[fierce elm]

You need your healer to follow with you

[sturdy valve]

Snap keyboard over knee

😄

[fierce elm]

while one dps takes left and you take right of the pillar

Your healer can follow quite deep

if they play around pillar your healer can also play around that pillar

[cinder thorn]

Ok

[fierce elm]

Tell your healer to man up

[cinder thorn]

I only play solo shuffle don't have time for team

So no point to discuss stuff with them

I think main thing is to not Los them then and wait till I get higher mmr so healer knows what they're doing in a melee team

[sturdy valve]

What class do yall hate fighting the most?

[fierce elm]

then expect them to follow

or they lose

but they lose regardless if you play that way

[cinder thorn]

That's the thing I keep an eye out for them and not follow out of Los but they don't move up

So I hold back but keep getting hit

Or retreat to pillar and then it's defensive play and we lose like you said

I guess I have to break out of that CR

[fierce elm]

If you just let them do w.e they want yall lose anyways

the only way to win is to play aggressive

[cinder thorn]

Yes I noticed more success with offence

Thx doe advice

[sturdy valve]

Unless someone looks like I am about to kill them I don't do the piller thing, I just go smash someone elses face.

At 1600s anyway, if one is running behind a piller, theres another standing in the wide open lol

[fierce elm]

You can also use the pillar to your advantage

Keep an eye for when they LOS their healer

[sturdy valve]

Or the mage that is laying into you.

I hate mages :/

[lavish quest]

Everyone does

At 1600 just take advantage of the fact that only half the people in the game have their monitor on

[sturdy valve]

Hahaha

No I am glad to be at 1600s tbh. My first solo shuffle match I went 6-0 and it put me in 2100 mmr

That was a nightmare

I got fucked up so bad.

Every round I was the one that died.

People got mad

And I was in like full greens too

[lavish quest]

I started this season at 2.4k.
It made life easy, I just busted on the people up there.

I had gear tho from 2s

[sturdy valve]

I had to go 0-6 like that for like 3 matches

[wheat jay]

Dude

I played dh to 2100 last season

I started at 2400mmr too xD

[lavish quest]

Bruh, this season was so free

[sturdy valve]

This season is easy?

[lavish quest]

My first 2.4k took like 2200 rounds.
Next season was like 1500 rounds.
This season took me like 150 rounds to get 2.4k

[sturdy valve]

I am at 247 rounds

[lavish quest]

It was for me. Even tho warrior is the weakest now out of the last 3 seasons

MMR starting high = ez climb

[sturdy valve]

108 rounds won out of 247 lol

How is warrior looking for tww?

[lavish quest]

Mixed. But it might be okay lol

[onyx marlin]

the legendary was all i needed

[wheat jay]

Real

[lavish quest]

Used to struggle with 2.4k.
Now I speedrun it.

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-dwight-the-general-manfredi-sylvester-stallone-tulsa-king-s1e6-gif-27284894

Thatta boy

[onyx marlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/118056379016675331/1062728803199221870/image0.gif

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kyriakos-grizzly-grizzly-kyriakos-bloatlord-bloatmax-gif-20920214

[fierce elm]

e z

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-xenoverse-2-thumbs-up-gif-18095637803255650912

[twin goblet]

just had somebody play 1 round of shuffle so i can lose a round

and then leave

i lost 2 rating for nothing

what the hell

[fierce elm]

lmao

[mystic prairie]

better when that happens at 0-3 with a healer diff

[sturdy valve]

I thought I was solid 1600s but I am so trash I am back to 1500s

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, but like 12-15 mmr. 😄

[twin goblet]

https://i.imgur.com/J8sUZ95.png

the grind has been real today

ive been hovering around 2300 for 2 days

[lean burrow]

bros, I'm playing hpriest and rdruid, can't decide which one to main for glad push, any suggestions?

I like hpriest slightly more

[sharp meteor]

what do u have for partners

[lean burrow]

none

[amber heron]

Bis stats for arms?

Anyone try going full crit and sone haste

Ik if a lock puts curse of weakness ur fucked but

[radiant oasis]

Check the pins

[radiant oasis]

Mags been running like 40 percent haste in some 3v3s based on the comp

But honestly haste is the only stat that in my opinion actually has any gameplay change in terms of feel. The rest is make believe simc fairy dust

[sharp meteor]

This seems more than a little unhinged.

[hexed ether]

I need some strat help. Went from 2600 to 2450. Lost to every lock spriest rdruid as boomie, pres, arms. The strat was for me to sit lock always and forever and they would cc spriest and Druid. Just felt unplayable. The other games we lost to was feral, hunter, x.

[sharp meteor]

Just...hitting into one target? As Arms? Into an rdruid team?

[hexed ether]

we oom the druid with bash + clones on sp
and sleeps on raruid
and clone lock wall or ironbark
shouldn't be able to keep up once damp kicks in

[hexed ether]

So yes as arms they want me to throttle lock

that was the strat they wanted

Just gotta be a better way

When I tell you if I hit anyone else, I might as well have threw the game

[sharp meteor]

Ye just seems like training one target as that can't really work.

Like maybe as Fury or something

[hexed ether]

I was top damage but I just eventually die being in the middle on lock

[sharp meteor]

I wanted to play with a chicken but ended up queuing with a sp and enh

mhm ye that just seemed like a matchup you'd die to random dmg in like 5-8 mins in lmao

[hexed ether]

I love turbo

[sharp meteor]

turbo goated

[hexed ether]

more my style

[sharp meteor]

every bolt is so much damagurs

wish my sham didnt quit the literal second we finished wins

[hexed ether]

Literally swap on defensives and zug

[sharp meteor]

boomie/fury looked fun

yeah tab off everything insta

[hexed ether]

I’m good at fury but yesterday was all cleaves and we slammed but today was all casters

[sharp meteor]

missin big kyrian spear too

giant spear into solar beam would've been cool

lol yeah sometimes it's just the roll of the dice

get 6 teams we're awful into for one reas or another

[hexed ether]

I can play both to 2500 but I can’t predict the matches

[sharp meteor]

next day it's the opposite

ye sometimes its just unlucky queues

[hexed ether]

I hope so bro

[sharp meteor]

sometimes also just get like the weird range where

[hexed ether]

Losing 150 rating drains the soul

[sharp meteor]

ur floating at an mmr where hteres 3 teams playina nd u arent doin so hot into any of them

easy come easy go you'll queue up later and clobber some dorks

still got like 2 weeks probs announced tomorrow

[hexed ether]

Idk how I beat vices, nessper, pherix, etc but lose to randoms that play lock spriest. I just felt like it was a strat issue

[twin goblet]

at what CR can i start actually getting invited in to groups

ive just random pugged it to 1850 rn and i still cant get in anywhere lol

im 2.4 solo

[sharp meteor]

nessper pherix been carryin lot of 2k healers

[hexed ether]

idk bro it’s my first glad push lol

[twin goblet]

i prob have to just go fury i guess

nobody wants an arms in 3s

trying to run TSG

[sharp meteor]

so there's s ort of this

[twin goblet]

or thunder cleave

[sharp meteor]

high concentration of popular specs

at 1800-2200ish

[twin goblet]

bro i just waited 45 mins to get into a shuffle game that ended in 2 rounds because the druid was wintrading

xd

[hexed ether]

I pushed 2550 in solo as fury and arms and was 2300 in 3s before prior glads would give me a chance

[twin goblet]

yeah if i can get over 2k

with some randoms

im sure ill be fine

[sharp meteor]

gotta find a way to get like

[twin goblet]

im like 1850 right now

[sharp meteor]

out of the actual depths

so ur like a viable grab

[twin goblet]

ye

i want to go fury so bad but im literally

like 2350 right now on arms

[sharp meteor]

cr kind of king so

[twin goblet]

and i want elite before i switch

[hexed ether]

Why

[twin goblet]

why not

[hexed ether]

true

[sharp meteor]

i mean

w/e gets u better results in 3s

shuffle is good for practice/warmup and meetin peoples i think

[twin goblet]

i just want to get the xmog shit

[hexed ether]

need a good lobby but arms is rough

[twin goblet]

and then im going full fury

[hexed ether]

Played Aug dev mage for 3 lobbies and that sucked the life out of me

[twin goblet]

yeah

i would go to bed after that

i can only handle so mage mage/lock/dev lobbies

[sharp meteor]

HAHAH tell me about it

[hexed ether]

played venruki and supa 2 lobbies in a row

[sharp meteor]

back in obsidian was actual agony

every lobby was 1 aug 1 mage

[twin goblet]

evoker imo was the worst thing to ever be added

it just as a class

no matter the spec

is just cancer

dev, way too much damage for far too little effort

aug is just weird as fuck

pres is just massively cringe and annoying

[sharp meteor]

i just hate the cc immunity into unslowable 200% speed for the first minute and a half of the game

RELEASE ME

[twin goblet]

yeah

i dont like how easy dev is to milk damage out of

[sharp meteor]

assa dev just cant play the first 50 seconds as fury

[twin goblet]

like

[hexed ether]

Ever see an Augd dev…….. disgusting 🤮

[sharp meteor]

death star ass dragon

[woeful solstice]

swap more on hots

[hexed ether]

See that’s what I’ve always been trained to do

I see 100k plus hots on target I usually swap but nope can’t cause teammates say that’s not the strat

They use a cd, I swap (normally

Druid near lock, no don’t swap just beat into lock lol

[woeful solstice]

yea theres zero point pumping dmg into a fully hot'd target lol

you burn the mana faster by swapping faster

[hexed ether]

lock ported near rdruid and I leapt and bladestorm so I didn’t get bashed cloned behind pillar and was chasing the lock but bs Druid along the way and from what my healer said I might as well threw the game

[woeful solstice]

ignore target loaded with hots

force druid to reapply to new target

[hexed ether]

that’s what I’m saying

[woeful solstice]

ur farming glad wins with a healer saying that?

bro this season is definitely inflated lol

[twin goblet]

bro like

im about to mald out

i wait 45 mins, get into game, wintrader and leaver after 2 rounds

get into another, worst POSSIBLE fucking comp for me to play to, my teammate for the next 3 rounds dcs

[hexed ether]

when we weren’t in coms we were fine because I do what I do but in comms it’s like “no what are you doing” lol

[twin goblet]

i lose 45 rating for literally nothing

didnt even get to play

like what the fuck

[hexed ether]

Yeah solos are something else. 😂

[woeful solstice]

solos are ass

i hit 2400 and stopped i cba to farm legend

[twin goblet]

i literally just want to hit 2400

im 2330 now lol

ive had 4 leavers today and 3 draws

like bro just let me out

RELEASE ME

[woeful solstice]

2300 = 2400

just keep queing

give zero fucks

[hexed ether]

Well they’ve been glad for the past 10 seasons and it’s my first glad. So it sounds to me like he’s talking from authority. I know I’m not a bad player and I can tell when something’s off. I take criticism really well and work consistently on my faults so I can improve. I just don’t know how to convey that the strat feels weird because I don’t have an alternative other than swap more

[woeful solstice]

yea he might just be seeing some things you're not as well

like if theres no cooldowns left you can probably pump into the target idk

[hexed ether]

Yeah and that’s why I trust. But 7 games and the strat has never worked. Maybe I have to be fury for the comp

I feel like fury would work with that strat a lot better than arms

[sharp meteor]

idk i feel like it'd be sleeps healer then alternate clones on w/e u can

off hots and stuff

because just ramroddin one guy as arms in paritcular just

doesnt seem ideal vs rdruid

[sharp meteor]

i swear sometimes no comms is better

[hexed ether]

My thoughts exactly

[sharp meteor]

ig it is kind of a map/positioning thing but

not only is training one target vs rdruid usually not great

but it's also predictable

i feel like 60% of my killsin recent games were just

schizo swappin assa rogue and killing them in a shockwave

or getting bark+evasion+more and doing the same thing 30 seconds later

[hexed ether]

I’ve never felt like training someone into the ground was a great strat. My damage would be so much better to just swap on cds and a wall of hots and punish Druid when they play in. But I can’t fear because of clone dr and can’t stun because of boomie stun.

[sharp meteor]

ya that's what i do

games are such that like you can usually

hit w/e takes the most dmg

[hexed ether]

I’m 30/50 wins but another sesh like today I’ll just be out of range. 2600 to 2450 is rough

[sharp meteor]

eh generally you swing back up

queue into some smol team that doesn't have your number

[fickle forge]

Skullsplitter was too strong btw

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1206361162430808174/1259959263963648112/image.png?ex=668e3cc1&is=668ceb41&hm=43297494c2099242f9d6b976581a5b9211c38f7cf88a7a4e7d94df923de35910&

[spice hornet]

I’ve made a similar comment before

Warriors aren’t allowed to have nice things

You will be a dot based spec. Fury will always be Walmart dh.

[fickle forge]

Yeah I mean a 4th wound was gonna pop too

600k non-crit, all good and fair

[lavish quest]

Warrior only balanced when it's F tier

[mystic prairie]

my execute hits for half as much as that last tick

if im lucky

[wheat jay]

dont forget mages

100-0 in 1.2s

noone's got SHIT on this

fucking dog ass mages

dropping a NUKE on your head

[lavish quest]

You'll make Venruki cri

[wheat jay]

🙂

ye but nerf dh man

give me a buff

[dense herald]

They shouldntve nerfed unhinged

[lavish quest]

Remove all pvp nerfs from warrior

[dense shoal]

Just never nerd pvp, only buff. If havoc OP, buff shaman. If shaman OP, buff feral.

[wheat jay]

this game mode is already a joke soooooo ye

why not

make it even more redacted 🙂

[dense herald]

Why do people like wrath pvp more than retail

We should look at that

[wheat jay]

cuz there's 5 buttons per class

and you either cc someone for 40s or zug them like its patchwerk

[hot solstice]

So u guys going slayer or colosus?

[fierce elm]

rerolling

[wheat jay]

for pve whatever is stronger

for pvp whatever is not warrior

[hot solstice]

Weaklings

[wheat jay]

warrior is wack in arena

why play tsg when hero cleave exists

[hot solstice]

Guys dont remember what arms was at df start

[wheat jay]

why play kfc when hunt+deva is better

[dense herald]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-21841403

[wheat jay]

why play retwarr when dhret is better

[hot solstice]

why talk about warrior if u play hunter

[wheat jay]

i play both

🙂

and i know shit about warr so when ppl ask i can answer

[dense herald]

It was op and got nerfed

[wheat jay]

simple as that

[dense herald]

Oneshotting players with spear + unhinged

[hot solstice]

the only problem I see is arena participation, yes dh is better but not that much to make u quit game

3s

game is dead itself

every day

same names in lfg

but to tell warrior is wack

[wheat jay]

it is

in this meta

it 100% is

you can be a warrior player

enjoyer

even r1

sure

effort vs reward in arena in this meta its just ass

there are good warr comps tho

thunder

retwarr

[lavish quest]

Demolish will prb get nerfed.
But slayer will give charging from roots and the mini bladestorms which I assume will clear slows n roots as well

I imagine slayer will be the play

[narrow compass]

i heard it was amazing. Sadly I missed that.

[twin goblet]

i see so many top warriors not running imp execute talent

anybody got any opinions on this

[onyx marlin]

better options

[lavish quest]

We don't execute as much now

People prob moving into the MS resets

[fierce elm]

Because execute fucking SUCKS

[lavish quest]

^

Should be renamed pillow fluffing

[twin goblet]

im getting gatekept by shuffle rng

im sitting around 2300 for 2 days now

everytime i get close i get like a mage/lock/evoker/hunter lobby

and cry

😦

RELEASE MEE!!!! I just want it over

[lavish quest]

Just win those lobbies

[visual plover]

Y'all ever take wrecking throw?

Like against locks and maybe disc priest

Figured it might make the lock matchup not as bad

[fierce elm]

Against lock yeah

[sharp meteor]

Into discs and warlocks ye c:

[visual plover]

How y'all fit it into rotation just use on CD?

Or is there some secret macro

[fierce elm]

Use on warlock when they use big shield

Use on disc whenever if you ever face disc

[visual plover]

Assuming shield is up against a disc

[fierce elm]

Generally you want it for rapture

yeah

[sharp meteor]

u press when they have shield

cos it do more dmg to shield

:3

[fierce elm]

So basically press it kek

[visual plover]

Just on CD

When shield

Can always drop fast footwork for it

[elfin surge]

🇺🇸

[lavish quest]

I don't take wrecking anymore

Doesn't one tap the shield anymore

[whole tulip]

What is warrior's best 3's comps atm?

[wheat jay]

Thunder retwarr maybe tsg

[fierce elm]

Warr/DH

Thunder

[lavish quest]

Rerolling DH

[wheat jay]

Welcome to the winning side

[lavish quest]

That was just my 3s war comp suggestion.
I can't be arsed to try to push legend or 3s.

[fierce elm]

Legend has ZERO rewards

[lavish quest]

Have a job and would rather push IRL

[fierce elm]

its crazy

I would grab Legend on my paladin but the rewards are so fucking miniscule and SHIT

[lavish quest]

Nah, you get a flag thingy LOL

[fierce elm]

Like if it gave an unique tabard or some shit

I probably would

[lavish quest]

Pennant

[fierce elm]

But a fucking pennant

for like 40 minute queues

hell no lmao

[lavish quest]

Not a fan of flags it seems

Next season's glad mount should be obtainable in solos since it's bad anyways

[amber heron]

has anyone

ever tested the frostfire leggings

that give u haste

[sharp meteor]

Ye.

Feels good into demo.

At least as prot. 😄

Unholy/bm other contenders.

[elfin surge]

@tribal holly

[tribal holly]

huh

Whats up classic andy

[elfin surge]

[tribal holly]

so you just pinged me for no reason?

[elfin surge]

just saying hi

[tribal holly]

hi

[woeful solstice]

they were very strong in late s1 into demo

idk about now

since we have more than enough haste

[amber heron]

u can never have too much haste tho

like mages go 50% haste lmao

do u think mastery even helps our damage

i dont notice it

[woeful solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/kramer-cool-gif-14315239

[amber heron]

wtf does that mean

[woeful solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/gnomed-gnome-glow-effect-shaking-gif-17863812

[lavish quest]

Mastery it literally a % increase to our damage once you play the game right on a target

So mastery helps X% X being the % amount of mastery lol

[fierce elm]

Mastery doesnt increase damage

wack

[dense herald]

I have 45% mastery 26% haste 20% crit 35% vers

Something like that

Big dam many mastery is good

[mystic prairie]

watched a playback of a SS round, enemy assa+enh+disc kept our healer in CC for 16seconds, at which point we died, might've kept that going longer lmao

[fierce elm]

kek

[mystic prairie]

this is including trinket ofc

[lavish quest]

?

[fierce elm]

wack

[lavish quest]

The increase to dmg doesn't increase dmg.

Wack

[fierce elm]

go full crit

[amber heron]

so mastery increases the damage taken from ur deep wounds by a certain amount

im not sure what that number is for each 1% of mastery

and then its a flat increase on top of that deep wounds damage

if u have 11% mastery u basically do 11% more damage to the target

but is that better then going full haste and just hitting more mortal strikes?

and faster dot tics etc

I wish there was a way to sim damage

[wheat jay]

In this meta, as warrior

You're never going to be top dps, unless people You're facing suck

So its better to have one big hit for you

[trail delta]

yooo guys let me brag a little

[fierce elm]

s h it m o g

neat rating

[trail delta]

xD

[lavish quest]

After a certain amount of haste its value starts to drop.

Go up to like 30% if you want then go mastery

[fierce elm]

go up to 80%

[lavish quest]

Afro a troll

[fickle forge]

Fury warr, all bragging rights revoked

[lavish quest]

Seems to be beating Mud our resident fury main

[fierce elm]

Mud is a lil baby

lets be real

[fickle forge]

You gonna take the smack of not being the main twink? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

Yeah figured

[visual plover]

Fury warriors how do we feel about Ashen Juggernaut? I dont see us executing often enough to get good use but glad to be wrong?

[amber heron]

I see high level players using it

but the issue is other talents r just not that good

fury has pretty horrible talents

[visual plover]

So it's more a situation of not having anything better?

[sharp meteor]

played it every game c:

[visual plover]

ive been running the 10% BT so i can get unmissable enraged melee on the left side is that worth or should i just be all in on right side?

[sharp meteor]

naw thats bad

its like so lil dmg

[visual plover]

i assumed the rage generation would be higher

[sharp meteor]

u can take it if u have zero cleave potential ig but like

i only swapped one talent rly

lemme see

😁

Green for cleavies, red for single-target.

[visual plover]

dope ill try it out even tho i still have my doubts about ashen i see all the top players running it so they couldnt be wrong right?

this was the build i was using

[sharp meteor]

No hack n slash hmm

[visual plover]

i never run out of RB

[sharp meteor]

But yeah idk fury kind of basic just dont get cc'd too mcuh on

[visual plover]

so i didnt see the point

[sharp meteor]

cds/ravvy

every game ravvy/slaughter and i like bloodrage 90% of the time

but also not gnome c:

[visual plover]

yeah im horde so gnome is out of the question

ive been running the battle trace tho unless a mage is on enemy team

slaughterhouse storm of des and trance

ima try bloodrage more tho every class seems to root now

[visual plover]

I'ma try this out thanks

[elfin surge]

why am i bottom damage every game

man this class sucks

[lavish quest]

You picked warrior

Poggers

[wheat jay]

roll dh

same but better

[elfin surge]

i feel like im doing damage but im doing 2/3rd of everyone else

idk im still using a green wep

[lavish quest]

Where orange?

[sharp meteor]

feels a lil horrific at times doesn't it

when everything else in the match easily cleaving a trillion dmg

[sharp meteor]

dh seems kind of nice

[lavish quest]

I would consider it if I liked their tank spec for PvE

[balmy dawn]

forgot to

[amber heron]

@elfin surge its actually good into some things

[sturdy valve]

How are we doing fire damage to proc it?

[fierce elm]

Legendary or Helmet enchant

[sturdy valve]

Hrm

I don’t have legendary but can look at helmet enchant what ever it is.

[fierce elm]

need to raid for that one too iirc

[sturdy valve]

Oh I have that enchant somehow

Idk where but I got that thingy somewhere

[lavish quest]

Think the helm enchant is disabled in arena

[fierce elm]

fuark

Realized I should grab that raid ring on ret so did it real quick

at 525 it seems to be 32k

doubt it goes to 78.5k with 10ilvls, that seems fucking crazy dumb

cant check because I fucked up upgrading by downgrading crests kek

[dense herald]

is fury or arms better in 2s

i saw magnusz pla y fury

[dense herald]

helmet is disabled in raid

in pvp i mean

[fierce elm]

fair

Fury is popping off ngl

[dense herald]

i havent played fury in pvp since s2

back when we used odyns fury

[urban skiff]

fury is somehow better in US but worse in EU

[dense herald]

Dat dont make any sense

[urban skiff]

You'll do best on whichever you vibe best with. warrior is currently in a great state because of this, even if we aren't as stronk as enhancement

[fierce elm]

always a difference in EU and US

[dense herald]

US have worse players so ig arms better

[urban skiff]

US has alternate playstyle players*

[fierce elm]

US are inferior so yeah

can only unga bunga keyboards

[urban skiff]

alternate*

[dense herald]

Why u think warriors are bad

Archi is american

Im only kidding about this archi dont ban me

[urban skiff]

archi don't ever read this

[fierce elm]

going to report you rn

[dense herald]

[urban skiff]

Tbh could do with a ban. Been a while since we had proper drama in here

[dense herald]

[urban skiff]

I'm holding an unknowable number of uno reverse cards in case anyone tries to ban me

Ready to take down the whole server if i have to

[fierce elm]

I have 40 alts named Afro in here rn

[lavish quest]

US just better

[urban skiff]

I hope they turn enh into a very tanky dps spec next season

make it a melee version of aug

bring the chaos, I'm ready for a wild season

[dense herald]

You like to see pvp burn

[woeful solstice]

dont say warriors are good all the rerollers in here will scream at you

[lavish quest]

I'm not a reroller. I will still scream at you

[dense herald]

Whats a good class in tww anyway

Slayer fury doesnt look too bad

[fierce elm]

unsub is the best class

[dense herald]

Idk why yall

Dooming so much

U get bladestorms with fury

[fierce elm]

dont yall everyone

Nobody here has a clue of TWW pvp kek

[dense herald]

I saw bajheera doing big damage

With warrior

[onyx marlin]

been using it, tooltip says 78k, buff is 30k

[sharp meteor]

depends on what u queue into

@woeful solstice Hey, those are some interesting queues you're getting.

[woeful solstice]

lmfao you in my alt lobbies rn?

im playing my dh for 1800 set

PAIN

had a paladin who refused to press bubble literally 4 matches in a row

[woeful solstice]

kennie you cursed me

[sharp meteor]

[lavish quest]

I feel like you win those tho

[woeful solstice]

I went 3-3 lol

couldve been 4-2 but the druid afk'd because i emoted him for playing guardian in solos

ended up placing me right at 1800 for my set, another alt down

[sturdy valve]

Welp, broke my keyboard tonight, arena is pissing me off.

Can not stand mages and warlocks.

[woeful solstice]

Never worth it

[sturdy valve]

Idk, it might of been.

Release some frustration of being so bad at this game.

1700 is apparently an impossibility for me, been over 1690 4 times now.

Possibly three times but I am pretty sure that was the 4th time before I started on a new downward spiral.

[woeful solstice]

im assuming you are going for 1800

if it makes you feel any better, 1600 is pretty much the same game as 1800 in solos. just keep queing, look at what you do wrong in your matches, try to improve from there

if you can record vods post them in #810664169140518947

[sturdy valve]

Will try and get some videos up this week. I am recording almost all of them (though not watching them as much as I should).

And honestly watched some streams of higher ranking and I can not even understand what they are doing that is so special to make them 2400 plus lol, but I am sure there is a lot I am missing.

Yeah, I would like 1800 and to get the ground mount, I am 67% of the way there.

But yeah, I get to 1700 and just get wrecked every time.

Last time I went all the way down to 1550 and came back to 1690 and lost 2 in a row and lost it on the 2nd lol

[woeful solstice]

honestly an easy W you can practice now is making sure you never CC into DRs unless its like a moment you need to land a kill

[sturdy valve]

I don’t have anything that tells me DRs

[woeful solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/hoblos-uhhh-uhhh-brother-brother-uhh-gif-1627688090339014668

[sturdy valve]

I usually save storm bolt for the healer when we got something low.

[woeful solstice]

go download gladius or gladiusEX

[sturdy valve]

Hrm, i had gladius but there was too much going on I did not even see anything it gave other than looking at their health bar.

Will try and look at it again.

I think it showed if they had trinket still.

[urban skiff]

heck yas

[balmy goblet]

Im playing 2s with resto druid or 3s with boomie + healer mostly, do i go fury or arms? Just started, having a blast full Green honor gear went 10-5 yesterday lol

Havent played retail in ages

[dense herald]

First 10 matches are placement matches

You should farm some conquest cause some classes can smoke u with green gear

I habent seen any boomie warr comps so prob play whatever u feel better with

[balmy goblet]

Yeah gonna get it asap ofcourse, was really fun tho but feels like it was to easy? Our mmr was around 2000, and in cata my mmr is 16-1700 ish and matches are way harder

[lavish quest]

I'm willing to bet if you do big damage, don't get yourself killed, and don't fuck up DRs you'll fly up a bit

Hell I get to 2400 and even I still fuck DRs sometimes

#fuckroguepartners

[visual plover]

just gotta do big dam thats all

fear on healer better imo

or on pets when cds are popped

[visual plover]

you cant go wrong with either but to makes fury really good you need mastery out the ass whereas arms kinda likes all the stats, just be sure to take unhinged if enemy doesnt have pets (otherwise stick to hurricane) and a big learning point for arms for me was knowing when/how to use sweeping strikes to maximize pressure

and aiming ur dreadnaught

[visual plover]

check the pinned comments for good builds for both specs and have fun zugging!

[balmy goblet]

@visual plover thx for ur input man! Yeah swapping hurricane/unhinged based on matchup is a great tip i Will for sure do that

[visual plover]

check the google doc in the pinned it has a great starter guide for stats and rotation!

actually ill just link it

Guide for Arms and Fury

[dense herald]

Use ss when players are together

Or hold if you have cs coming up

[visual plover]

^

just dont sweeping then bladestorm

[dense herald]

Bro i tried fury yesterday i felt like big dmg but was so rusty on it

[visual plover]

bro its 3 buttons

4*

[dense herald]

Ik but

Idk

[visual plover]

yeah nah it takes some getting used too

[dense herald]

I jist need to get used to it again y know

[visual plover]

i always have to hit the dummy for a while

[dense herald]

The rotation is not hard

But just get used to it doing it automaticly again

[visual plover]

right yeah i have to do that everytime i swap specs

[dense herald]

Its acceptable if you use the ss to cs both targets then bladestorm

[visual plover]

fking annoying

[visual plover]

good point

[dense herald]

Yday i faced a rogue and lost

The priest did 40k dps

More than the rogue

[visual plover]

lmao rouge just locked u down

rogue*

[dense herald]

Yea

[visual plover]

whata dickk

[dense herald]

I mean i bladestormed couple of his stuns but

Still sadge

[visual plover]

rogues feel impossible

double evasion vanish resets disarm etc

[dense herald]

Yea like i bladestorm then fear opener he trinkets and i have to trinket to use die by the sword otherwise im dead

This was sub rogue

[visual plover]

somtimes that doesnt even save u haha

only outlaw has double evasion?

[dense herald]

Idk

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i only play war

so i just assumed they all had it

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Its happened to me to get omeshotted through die by the sword

Its just so broken

Me and my healer traded cds so good and played good but we lost in the end

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feelsbad

outplayed and saved

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I dont think any spec has double evasion

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sucks

didnt they have cloak also act as an evasion?

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Just that they can get a very quick cooldown with vanish

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or did that get patched out

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Got patched

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ahhhh

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You can damage through cloak

But it removes ur dots i think

Even cs

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thats stupid

thats dumber than CS getting parried

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Worst is when facing like a holy priest and rogue or dh

They just evasion and healer goes spirit form and i cant attack

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dh flies away in the meantime 😂😂

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I also dont like dk

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really? ive always thought a good matchup

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They do fucking insane dps

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thats true

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And when they get low they just slow me and run away

A good dk that is

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yeah ima 1700 hero

no good dks

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I faced trainblue in 2s and he is highest rated udk in solo shuffle

I think i lost all the times i plaued against him

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i just dont have the time anymore

damn

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He had a resto druid

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resto is fucking stupid

lemme rant about that

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And everytike i try go resto he pull

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treants

are fucking garbage

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Bro resto can top someone with 1% mana at 70% damp

Its so stupid

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wonder if its ever worth to kill the treants

at least SS cleave

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You can shockwave em

When going the druid

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i do that somtimes or fear

if they overcommited them

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I also feel like im at a disatvantage with gnome

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double dps trinket is the only way brother

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With not being a gnome i mean

I just get rooted and kited

If i could dispell that root

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fury can :)

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Racial the stun trinket the root

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if tuning doesnt fuck us fury is looking like the top dog warrior in pvp

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Thinking of making either human or gnome warrior in remix

Can lvl in like 2 hours 10-70

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in TWW

2 hours wth

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Yea

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ur cloak crazy or something

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Cloak doesnt share every stat

Just from the achievements what lvl it is

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but exp+ does share right?

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If you lvl ur first char and get max cloak ilvl

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Nope

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ah idk i gave up on remix

after frog gate

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You start at 100% extta xp gain

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They made everyone get 90k free bronze after that

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thats when i was on break and coming back now just doesnt interest me

ima casual these days and if ima play its gna be retail pvp

and if its viable its gna be fury

but i love arms too dont get me wrong

just something about the simplicity that gets me

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Im playing arms rn

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i fucked my stats its all mastery

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And the rotation isnt the hard part about pvp anyway

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guess i could swap back but

feelbad

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Arms benefits from mastery