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sharp meteor
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disc feels really good a lot of the time because they can't get away

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and you play tremor to break monk out

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which covers every other fear 😄

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another thing is swaps because in, say, rdruid/hunter you might wanna ideally hit hunter but if the rdruid walks up without hots you can crush them in a stun, force bark + hots then go back hunter, etc

mystic prairie
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ok, I think that's pretty close to what we've been doing, hit what we can, swap when we feel we should

twin goblet
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i want to die

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every shuffle game today is just all casters

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last 3 in a row are double lock, evoker, and another caster

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just walking at everybody most frustrating thing ive ever played

karmic wharf
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Hey all, been seeing alot of top Fury warriors running Seal of Diurnas Chosen. What ilvl does this actually become worth running over a pvp ring?

sharp meteor
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The 535 mastery heavy ring is really good and always worth, though, assuming you adjust stats elsewhere. Fire dot ring kind of eh.

karmic wharf
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Ah ok so it would only be worth if you have the legendary?

sharp meteor
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Really though since the 50% ring nerf it's like maybe barely worth it

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Uh, great. Keep us posted. 😅

mystic prairie
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Botrat

dawn sail
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😵‍💫

lean burrow
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Botmaking guy, do it

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Blizzard should feel fire under their ass

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To actually start improving

mossy sparrow
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Is bleed build still king for warriors or is other viable?

fallen estuary
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we hate feral druids

mossy sparrow
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I just wasn’t a big fan of the clap/thunder bleed build. I enjoyed the spear much more. Is the thunder bleed still only viable? For arms

spice hornet
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I never see anyone playing spear

fallen estuary
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im playing spear rn and its INSANELY good

spice hornet
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lol

sharp meteor
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It might be okay for Fury.

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No bleed dmg.

sharp meteor
mossy sparrow
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it was a few years ago

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was the spec to play, then it swapped to the bleed kills

sharp meteor
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Alright now I am

fickle forge
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Spear is only a choice when you gotta fight dragons

fallen estuary
fickle forge
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You'd never want Spear on arms ever besides when you're facing dragons that just cleanse your TR off

soft lava
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Does your rating jump when you're matched with much higher rating people and you do well?

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Feels like it does

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but i forgot to look

fierce elm
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yes

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its all tied to MMR

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Facing higher MMR opponents compared to your CR = Bigger jump

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Also smaller fall if you lose

soft lava
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mmkay

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tyty

elfin surge
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🇺🇸

lavish quest
soft lava
spice hornet
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Anyone feel useless as fury into dev/dh? Both of them are so terrible

limber relic
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im his #1 fanboy

fierce elm
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c r i n g e

rancid granite
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pretty cringe

fierce elm
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Actually just did warrior 2s since end of last season

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this s u c k s

spice hornet
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⚠️ WARNING: Do NOT play 2v2 as a warrior ⚠️

sharp meteor
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I mean some matchups are boring/annoying but fury and arms feel solid.

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although Assa is war crime tier

fierce elm
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I also didnt have 4 set or full gear lmao

lavish quest
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2v2 as a war is the worst thing you could do in all of wow

spark cairn
woeful solstice
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best comp don't @ me

thick reef
spice hornet
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@sharp meteor how do you feel trying to do damage into dev/dh

spice hornet
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Like you can’t even play the game

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It’s like trying to race with a horse and carriage and they’re in a Ferrari

sharp meteor
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I think we killed the last few we played into, actually

radiant oasis
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you ever lose a bg so hard

fierce elm
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lmao

scarlet barn
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Nice one for collection

lavish quest
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You can't

elfin surge
# radiant oasis

i will literally destroy you in a normal 1v1 if i was fully gear you are bad

covert hollow
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Is there a spreadsheet with different class abilities I should be kicking?

radiant oasis
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locks - chaos bolt, UA
priest - penance
evoker - anything
mage - poly / shifting power
druid - anything
shaman - lava burst

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pally, anything

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its more about being mindful of which school youre locking out for some classes- evoker will always have something to cast regardless what you kick.

warlocks can cast chaos bolt still if you kick something irrelevant.

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mage relies heavily on poly, same with druid clones

covert hollow
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Thanks!

radiant oasis
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fake casting is huge value because of the pvp embellishment, so just be mindful of missing kicks.

spice hornet
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Holy

sharp meteor
spice hornet
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bahahaha

sharp meteor
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Unrelated but not even close baby

rancid granite
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random bg > Pve > rated arena

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in order of most ragers

spice hornet
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holy

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remember in cata when heroic throw actually did damage

sharp meteor
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low-mid keys, low-mid mmr arena

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shuffle to a degree ig

spice hornet
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Kennie is toxic I’ve seen him use certain words during his degenerate prot queues… critcake

sharp meteor
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2k shuffle players driving me up the wall

lavish quest
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He's a furry, everything he does is degenerate

cinder thorn
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I don't know why whenever someone complains about prot it makes me want to play it even thought its horrible

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I remember when they released DF they were talking about making prot viable but looks like they failed to do so

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In pvp

thick reef
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Imagine the burstiest burst you can think of from any class

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Now you are in a 3s with that fuck, and he now has an extra 9% damage from you just clicking taunt

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It's aids

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12% if you Spell Reflect the target and it connects keks

woeful solstice
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Alright I’ll bite. Spinning up a pvp prot warrior

warm current
spice hornet
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whats the arms rotation

fierce elm
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Mortal strike - OP - Execute

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Thunderclap to fill and apply rend

radiant oasis
fallen estuary
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vibes

narrow compass
hazy isle
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thinking im gonna skip on warr now cause of gnome meta

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warriorsisters its over....

sharp meteor
radiant oasis
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Most of the relevant changes from today's beta build for PvP

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The roar is big. Lines up with avatar now and means skull splitter value skyrockets. It might make a comeback

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Holy pally got the most interesting set of class build changes. They are getting super high crit chance built into their spells and they have spells that cause holy shock to double cast frequently now

fierce elm
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Please no hpala or rdruid meta

radiant oasis
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As for sockets. They are no longer gated by vault coins. PvP gear is only socketed with a jewel token purchased through honor or obtained randomly from rated wins.

Jewelcrafters have an additional socket- however it cannot be used on PvP gear.

Crafted PvP gear is essentially identical to today with some good changes.

No more sparks. Instead you only use conquest trophy.

Recipes will drop but less frequently. They are not BoP anymore so you can trade them on AH.

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So it seems like the weekly vault is becoming strictly a PVE only benefit. There are no PvP gains to be had anywhere through the weekly reset system aside from conq cap.

fierce elm
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All RNG gone praise the gods

radiant oasis
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Less rng and good for players who enjoy both contents

boreal veldt
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I'm such a fan of the pvp crafting change i always enjoyed that i could just craft my own gear and change their stats whenever

urban skiff
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I suspect they're trying to raise the value of crit with these changes

radiant oasis
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It's hard to put value on a lot of those changes because numbers are irrelevant until the expansion is released

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A free talent point from blood and thunder removal is relevant I suppose

cinder sluice
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Still Blademaster's Torment change didn't get reverted

cinder thorn
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What are the best specs in the game for single target pressure, rather than AOE

fierce elm
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DH probably

onyx marlin
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caster id say boomkin maybe affli idk

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tho mage hit like a truck xd

fierce elm
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fmage during combus

onyx marlin
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ye

fierce elm
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Affli is mostly just AoE rot

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Probs destro if left freecasting and alone

onyx marlin
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got hit with 600k glacial from frostm yesterday tho

fierce elm
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assuming pure single target pressure

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Frost kekw

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But most likely, assuming nobody is peeling anything its probably DH for melee and Destro/mm for ranged

craggy igloo
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Anyone watching any warr streamers right now

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LF

radiant oasis
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i enjoy mag's streams

craggy igloo
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He’s not live though

radiant oasis
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dan warr is on

craggy igloo
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But I appreciate it

craggy igloo
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What’s link

radiant oasis
craggy igloo
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Found it, thx, I’m looking to watch some arena though

rigid belfry
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guys
how can i practice my pvp
im fairly new to the game last time i played fury was wotlk or so

rancid granite
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play and keep playing

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maybe watch a streamer like bahjeera play too sometimes

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but mainly just keep playing 🙏

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nothing comes close to just putting in lots of games and paying attention. with addons like details you can help review your matches too

rigid belfry
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bahjeera still plays? fk me

elfin surge
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@last spindle

rigid belfry
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thats way too long ago lmao

dense herald
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I saw him a few weeks ago

woeful solstice
fierce elm
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Do I need to be gnome to hit 1600

lavish quest
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It's why Vesa is struggling

limber relic
fierce elm
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Guys no flirting in pvp chat

hazy isle
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"Always line your healer for higher DPS"

rancid granite
fierce elm
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no simping in pvp chat

rancid granite
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since i noticed they have fanboys and you dont

fierce elm
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I dont need sweaty nerds to fanboy me

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I fanboy myself

rancid granite
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what about the non sweaty nerds

lavish quest
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Damn, what's someone gotta do to get some simpin' around here?

sharp meteor
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pushing on against all odds

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against the forces of evil

woeful solstice
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step it up, you gotta be dual boxing gnomes

narrow compass
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Spawns of Satan.

violet fossil
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on a gnome

rancid granite
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they look like they're thinking about blowing something up

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after they just got done blowing something up

spice hornet
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what kiund of map rotation is this this week

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robodrom and mugambala

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with splay everywhere

radiant oasis
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I had a look at possible beta builds for PvP as it stands today and it seems promising.

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Arms tree is pretty banging. You get pretty much everything you want.

Class tree has some tough choices

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AoE berserker shout is baked into the one talent. Which is nice.

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The biggest downside is likely that cacophonous roar is impossible to talent into now.

limber relic
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Um. Have u actually looked at warriors in war within?

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They are complete snd utter garbage

limber relic
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Swap cac roar for wrecking/shatter/cdr on shockwave

radiant oasis
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I didn't even notice this connecting node! My bad

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Leeching strikes seems like an important one to skip I feel

fierce elm
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this looks fucking AIDS to build around

woeful solstice
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I think the new design is way better than current

bright kraken
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@fierce elm @lavish quest i may as well let you two know

fierce elm
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GRATS

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round count

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proud of you

limber relic
limber relic
lavish quest
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Although, the lobby MMR was only like 10 above your rating, very curious/lucky blizz gave 11 rating for 2-4.
But regardless the battle is won

limber relic
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Man Warriors are bad and looking even worse in TWW.

wheat jay
limber relic
wheat jay
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real xD

bright kraken
bright kraken
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the dk dc'ed but match didn't end until round 5

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ironically the lock in the lobby was complaining about getting another melee lobby when they needed only 4 wins for legend

faint pumice
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How are we feeling ourself in the next expansion so far? I am this close 👌 to up the ww monk
@limber relic @lavish quest @urban skiff

lavish quest
# fickle forge The DK left

I just saw the 2 rounds won and jumped to conclusions my bad. Still odd a 2-2 gave that rating. Maybe like 3-5 but 11 is interesting.

lavish quest
lavish quest
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Legacy raiding / 10

quaint osprey
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Is it possible for a weakaura to track who the enemy arena frame has has as target?

dense herald
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I was 2522 then dropped to 2350

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Now im like 2390 domething

bright kraken
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do more dps

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ez

lavish quest
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Now she knows

dense herald
elfin surge
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feels good to be orc again

dense herald
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Like one of the rounds i lost my healer was in cc

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And the monk ran off to the other side of the map

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And died

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He was chasing the enemy

dense herald
lavish quest
elfin surge
elfin surge
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i logged on yesterday to fac change

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im not pushing r1 this seas so it doesnt matter

bright kraken
elfin surge
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@fickle forge

dense herald
bright kraken
dense herald
bright kraken
bright kraken
# dense herald Buff warriors

we have heard your feedback

Death Pact prevent interrupts
Incarnation lasts an additional 10 seconds
Life Swap has a 20% chance to fail
Restoration Druid now no longer has GCDs attached to abilities
Thunderous Roar: Removed
Anti-Magic Shell now affects physical damage
Turtle now has no effect (Quality of Life change)

wheat jay
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?

bright kraken
elfin surge
fickle forge
soft lava
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Witch one is best for pvp if you don't use odyn's fury in your spec?

Berserker's torment probbaly right? Or still Titan?

real shuttle
lavish quest
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Next epac no weekly item, but we will have higher conquest cap to compensate

violet fossil
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there’s a quest you do

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think 2-3 weeks I don’t remember

hazy isle
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"I clicked my spells all the way to 1600 lets gooo! Hold up just donated $5 to Bajheera, he is flexing his biceps haha"

urban skiff
faint pumice
urban skiff
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off the top of my head
Fury is losing the root/snare breaker
Fury and arms losing executioner
Arms losing double bladestorm amd bladestorm cooldown reduction

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lot of mobility and immunity gone. Other classes losing some mobility/gap builders, but we have some baked into hero talents and I don't think the others do.

faint pumice
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What are we getting in return?

urban skiff
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So it's like everybody take 2 steps back. Warriors take 1 step foward

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fury is getting bladestorm
fury and arms randomly proc bladestorm with the slayer talents.
fury and arms can break a cc when using charge every 30 seconds with slayer talents

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thane gets aoe stormbolt
colossus gets lower cd on shockwave

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also the big one, colossuss gets (almost) cc immunity while using their new big attack

faint pumice
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That’s an awesome recap, thank you @short galleon !

Thanks to @lavish quest and @limber relic too🫶

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I am thinking of a WW monk as an upgrade of a warrior, must be an easy switch. Or I can make a full 360 and go rshammy and never stay in Qs, always have teammates, never compete with WW and DH for viable comps..

urban skiff
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oh yeah we're also losing the root on piercing howl, for the people who use that

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huge overhaul to talent tree layout, and killed one of the torment talents

lavish quest
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Long story short, we crying bois

urban skiff
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I'm not really crying, we have 3 excellent looking hero talent trees and something will surface after the initial chaos where we find out warrior is doing ok

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Plus blizz threw 30% aura buff at us during the beta already so my money is still on accidental overtuning

lavish quest
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That just means we were pathetic in early testing lulmao

urban skiff
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yup

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it's a sign

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It means we're gonna do gloriously

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JTMB, eh

limber relic
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No but @woeful solstice says warrs are good

limber relic
rancid granite
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if its considered bad just play it anyway and win anyway

urban skiff
limber relic
urban skiff
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I swear it used to say bladestorm

limber relic
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at the very start maybe yeah

karmic wharf
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When playing Fury PVP should I ever prioritize using execute over rampage?

vapid tartan
urban skiff
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kind of weird they take away death chakram from hunter because it's just a button they press before doing damage

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but that's literally like colossus smash?

woeful solstice
wheat jay
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well its not meta

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but its not far behind other melee

tribal wedge
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you can rampage -> rampage

cinder thorn
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Why the hell does it take so long to pop any sort of pvp in retail

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Is classic at 60 also taking long to pop?

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What about cata

spice hornet
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Cata is pretty dead you fight the same teams over and over a lot

narrow compass
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They’ll put a limit on it I’m sure

cinder thorn
spice hornet
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like era?

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Era is dead, it's been in naxx for a long time

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and there's no arena there. Retail q's are always the fastest except DPS shuffle times. Queues are nearly instant until 2.4 in 2s/3s. 2s will then be aroudn 5min and 3s maybe a couple mins depending on time of day.

hot solstice
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any way to beat dh ret/dh devo as ret war? 2300mmr currently....feels so unfair

cinder thorn
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Thx qfiend

cinder thorn
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Love blitz, it gets better team mates when you rating goes up

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And no premades

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So your skill vs theirs

rich peak
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should I get seal of filial duty even if I dont have fyralath?

sharp meteor
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Yeah. Well, assuming it's not too much mastery/haste.

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It's just a high ilev ring.

steady mantle
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hey guys,
im wondering if the green auction house gear (which scales to 502) is better for starting with pvp or if you have overall 518 ilvl pve gear?

limber relic
fallen estuary
dense herald
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In s2 i was waiting >5min for arena q at 2.2k in 2s arena

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I was facing the same 3 teams

fickle forge
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Deva+DH isn't healable, good luck

hot solstice
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Ok got it. Thankfully haven’t faced much Dhs last session.

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About 40 arms warriors with glad this ssn

fickle forge
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It has been chill so far on arms

fierce elm
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Deva+DH is just get lucky as ret/warr that you blow someone up

cinder thorn
mystic prairie
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518 ilvl pve > 515 honor gear, if secondary stats are ok

woeful solstice
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Hello fellow warrior enjoyers how are we doing today

sharp meteor
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Wishing they'd buff bag of tricks by 500% and shield slam by 20%.

mystic prairie
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wishing dh wasnt so much better than warr

quaint osprey
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what can you do against mage with 500 blinks

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rmp with mage slow + crippling posion

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how to reach any entity

sharp meteor
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if rogue is assa just hit them

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mage if they blink offensively or for cc

lavish quest
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Wishing that they'd finally remove mages after 20 years

cinder thorn
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No mages are part of the game and they're meant to be played in a clever way which rewards skill

We play warrior because we can't be bothered

Makes have a hard life man they have to run like a pussy all the time and study day and night in books

All we do is go gym pump iron and chop trees easy life

boreal veldt
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gym life best life

cinder thorn
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Nerd hater

Just because I'm a smart warrior

dense herald
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Cant be bothered to learn ranged so i just play warrior and rage when mage roots me in middle of map and im not a gnome

woeful solstice
cinder thorn
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Is there something that can make a gnome have gnome racial but look like a human

dense herald
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Not in pvp

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Theres a toy that turns u into a random race but doubt it works in pvp

rancid granite
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it does not!

woeful solstice
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Go gnome or or home

sharp meteor
narrow compass
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wtf do you guys do vs double caster on tigers peak when they constantly play the platforms?

tribal wedge
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bonk them

bright kraken
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Anyone able to explain how TSG works and weaknesses? (Arms UH)

lavish quest
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TSG, do big dam till something dies.
Weakness. Dying before you kill something.

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TSG used to just run down the healers, not sure if they still do that tho

rich peak
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Can anyone share some good fury macros

woeful solstice
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If you go into non cleaves you can do the same but train easiest kill target, grip heal, same go

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Double caster just make sure your dk uses amz properly and try to weave ccs into non kill target too

radiant oasis
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i've just started doing solo shuffle and am about 2.2 atm. gotta say- the number of healers going afk round 5/6 because theyre upset...

cant believe you guys have dealt with this for four seasons lmao

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i aint even typing these people just self implode

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i come from a league of legends background and when people grief there, they at least pretend to try. these guys just straight up afk at the gates

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also i dont know if anyones tried this cooking impossible brawl before but it feels like a toddler's attempt at a bg. theres no way this idea wasnt scribbled on a bar napkin

sharp meteor
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why would healers care

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they get into lobby after 12 second queue

left lark
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Do arms use [Champion's Spear] in pvp or no? Guides say use it but no one does? What am I missing

spice hornet
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Is that what they renamed spear

left lark
# spice hornet Is that what they renamed spear

Throw a spear at the target location, dealing (165% of Attack power) Physical damage instantly and an additional (150% of Attack power) damage over 4 sec. Deals reduced damage beyond 5 targets.

Enemies hit are chained to the spear's location for the duration.

radiant oasis
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nah its hot garbage

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dont know what guides youre reading but if you check the pins, mag will have a good guide to reference

spice hornet
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I didn’t even realize they changed the animation too

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Like nobody has played it in so long lmfao

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They neutered that thing in DF

radiant oasis
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theres too many ways to get out of it

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and you have to turbo fuck your talent selection to take it

sharp meteor
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Hasn't been a useful pick since, like, crimson.

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Too long of a cd, crit nerfed, too short, too many things break it, competes with shockwave/TR

spice hornet
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DF arms was incredibly boring and disappointing

radiant oasis
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i think its great fun

spice hornet
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What’s fun about it

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Execute doesn’t execute

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Crit stuff completely nerfed

radiant oasis
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different definitions of fun i guessed. sounds like youre obsessed with performance and numbers

sharp meteor
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crit stuff is just a dmg profile thing

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arms output is fairly smooth for better or worse

dense herald
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But like halfway through s1 they nerfed crit

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Idk if they nerfed the spear itself

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And unhinged got nerfed

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Basicly u would spear bladestorm and oneshoy

rich peak
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Anyone have bajheeras macros for fury? Or any good fury macros for our cds

radiant oasis
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Yo im new to this- is 2.4k elite?

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is there anything beyond that for solo?

lavish quest
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Farming legend and that's about it

radiant oasis
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Does that get you anything?

lavish quest
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Title for season and a pendant toy (a flag on your back)

radiant oasis
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huh...

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thats depressing

wheat jay
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That's shuffle

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If you want more then it's 3v3 and you get gladiator mount for 50 wins above 2400

dense herald
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Is arms deadge in tww

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Pvp wise

fickle forge
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Hey guys is arms good in 2028?

wheat jay
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no

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roll dh

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or ret

radiant oasis
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Is oblivion worth kicking on warlock? does it do much damage?

quaint osprey
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sheep and cyclone not on the same dr is a crime

limber relic
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warriors are deadge om DF too kekw

dense herald
limber relic
dense herald
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Bro

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Its literally good

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Im performing well

limber relic
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at what rating?

dense herald
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If i can get 2.4k with a spec then its a good spec

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2.4k

limber relic
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bruh u can get 2.4 with anything rn

dense herald
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True

limber relic
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i got 2.4 day 2 of S4. doesnt mean anything

dense herald
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Except fury warrior

limber relic
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im 2700 in fury lmao

dense herald
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Dafuq

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I thought fury dream was deadge

limber relic
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2600* i kinda got griefed 🥲

dense herald
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I was 2.5k as arms got griefed 2.3k

sharp meteor
dense herald
limber relic
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crimson s1. obsidian s2, verdant s3, draconic s4

sharp meteor
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yee

limber relic
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DF**

dense herald
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Hmm ok

limber relic
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warriors are mid tier at most atm

dense herald
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🧢

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A tier

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Actually i cant say havent played pvp in like 2 weeks

limber relic
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call it whatever but imo most classes can dance around warriors forever

cinder thorn
mystic prairie
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If I'm vs DH or WW I feel like the only way to win is be much better than them

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At similar level of skill I lose

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but that's just garbage sub-2.4k shuffle warr with a few months of wow xp total talking

rancid granite
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so many doomers

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what happened to everyone just playing the class they like 😥

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every dang day

tribal holly
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so when the own class they like is too weak nobody likes playing it

sharp meteor
#

annoying putting up with assa havoc every game

#

blur bugged forever

rancid granite
#

just play and do better

limber relic
rancid granite
wheat jay
rancid granite
#

i assume both

wheat jay
#

Nab

#

Nah

#

Pve warr is always gigachad

#

Low on meter, gigachad

#

High on meter, gigachad

rancid granite
#

doesnt matter people still gonna qq up a storm

#

same with other games too to be fair

#

some league of legends champ gets nerfed "we lowered the attack damage by .5 at level one" and everyone just rages their ass off 'gg UNPLAYABLE' nonstop

#

lmao

mystic prairie
#

i mean we are playing the class we like, we're just suffering atm

rancid granite
narrow compass
#

Do you not get the Duelist achievement from 2.1K in solo shuffle? Only the title? Or do I have to wait until the end of the season to get the achieve?

sharp meteor
#

Title lasts until the season ends.

woeful solstice
#

What the fuck is everyone coping about lmao

#

War is great

sharp meteor
#

my fur is fallin out

granite iris
#

someone teach me please XD

narrow compass
sharp meteor
woeful solstice
narrow compass
#

anyway....528 Ashkanndur or Glad Greatsword?

#

@ 42% vers with the Glad sword

mystic prairie
#

ffs, next time in assa+mage+boomy lobby i'll just afk

#

why even bother putting any effort there

dense herald
sharp meteor
narrow compass
#

with it, 12%

balmy dawn
#

i know i asked before but now im kinda curious again

woeful solstice
sharp meteor
#

Like, if you think you can somewhat reliably get a giant cast on you then sure, go for it

#

reflected a bolt in shuff for like 700k or something

#

but only cos i trinketed for it

balmy dawn
#

yeah i guess as warr you wouldnt really be the prime target

fallen estuary
next mortar
hazy isle
#

"Keeping all defensives and trinket on CD... The SeifCham method"

narrow compass
#

Is gnome gonna be meta again in tww???

tribal wedge
#

only in tww s2, vulpera will take the spot in s1

narrow compass
#

😵‍💫

sharp meteor
#

God I wish 😢

narrow compass
#

little creep

bright kraken
#

how to counter Splay?

fickle forge
#

Don't be a warrior

woeful solstice
dense herald
#

Putting something into crit isnt bad

cinder thorn
#

am I the only one struggling to get excited with any of the new talents in TWW?

not just warrior, almost all classes im interested in seem meh

#

the only interesting one I seen so far is DK's being able to mount in combat

tribal wedge
#

i'm pretty excited with the war talent (especially colossus)

dense herald
#

Why cant i ping mods

#

MODS

#

<@&257983573498265600>

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<@&257983573498265600>

cinder thorn
#

I'm doing more dps as a noob paladin in green gear than warrior in purple gear, and I'm not even optimal in terms of rotation and ability priorities yet

I would imagine same case with DH

The problem with warrior is the uptime, its so easy to kite and when you're on someone for a few seconds it's not enough damage before you're kited again

I'm not seeing how TWW is going ti change that

river walrus
#

Idk, after major nerf to bladestorm in war whitin I am thinking of mainin frost dk and playing warrior as alt. Unless this nerf to bladestorm doesn't make it bad it will suck

fierce elm
#

yeah warr sucks reroll

dense herald
#

Play slayer fury in tww

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Bladestorms all around

dense herald
#

Stop pressing slam

tribal wedge
fierce elm
#

Press slam always

dense herald
#

Does same dmg and applies rend

fierce elm
#

always hit slam

dense herald
fierce elm
#

Im just getting rid of everyones doomposting by shitposting

#

either play warrior or dont nobody cares if you reroll

lavish quest
#

As one who proudly rerolled himself

dense herald
#

Can only hope we get overtuned when expansion releases

west mural
#

ayo, what are your optimal secondary stats this season? vers/mast/haste/crit?

twin goblet
#

If you don’t play warr at our season 1 low you don’t deserve us at our season 3 high..

twin goblet
#

Orange axe phonies ready to jump ship, not me!!!!

dense herald
cinder thorn
fierce elm
#

lmao

#

Aggressive as fuck

dense herald
fierce elm
#

Lets continue dooming over balance changes and things not meeting our individual expectations or roll with what we are given

west mural
#

rather than arguing about nothing, answer my question, that seems to be constructive xD

fierce elm
#

Why is it not x way or y way

#

@west mural pins

dense herald
cinder thorn
#

Where is the doom?

I said that we are easily kited, by things like mages as an example and none of the new skills help with mobility or uptime

dense herald
#

Or pins as afro pointed

west mural
#

it differes tbh

#

aight thx

fierce elm
twin goblet
#

Well the thing with PvP is..no class can have it all

#

That’s why there’s no solo arenas tho

#

You have teammates

#

If a mage spends their entire kit to kite you, your other teammate probably blasts them for free

cinder thorn
#

That's the thing, you rely on friendly dispels whereas paladin and DH can do it without relying on 3rd parties

So do you think that the warrior does the same damage in rhe shorter amount of time he connects on average as a paladin and DH?

twin goblet
#

Yeah it could

#

If you let a warrior stand on you you’re pretty much dead

cinder thorn
#

That's the thing I need to find the balance between good team fights in pvp and arena as well as the occasional 1v1 that happens when you try to rejoin your group in bgs/rbgs

twin goblet
#

You also have other things in your kit to help that…spell reflect, war banner, 2 charges and a leap, stun them next to you, howl snares

#

I would personally not really base any PvP opinions off BGs just because there is a really random aspect to it

#

BGs are just kinda a giant brawl

cinder thorn
#

I think I need to watch a good video of a warrior vs mage where both if them know what they're doing and it's close

If anyone knows of such a nice video would be great

fierce elm
#

Can never balance pvp around bgs and 1v1

twin goblet
#

Yeah, the thing is

#

Mages are supposed to counter warriors

#

So in a 1v1

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A mage should win

#

Skill differences aside

#

But warriors, can shit on other classes mages can’t

cinder thorn
#

OK, what counters mage and DH and Ret?

twin goblet
#

Think of the all the classes as rock paper scissors

#

Mage loses to lock a lot of the time, hunter can also kill mage

#

Ret is not bad also

#

Because freedom

#

But warrior can dog walk a hunter

#

You see what I’m getting at

cinder thorn
#

Yes

#

Thing is bgs are going to be a thing in next expansion with the solo queue rbg

I love bgs thats why I'm talking about them

twin goblet
#

That’s why 3s is the best arena in terms of skill

cinder thorn
#

So for me these occasions do matter

#

I agree about 3s and old 5s

twin goblet
#

I would say if you really like BGs

#

Find a consistent RBG team

cinder thorn
#

But I enjoy BGs yes

fierce elm
#

you want more lmao

cinder thorn
#

Yes I'll need to, once I figure out which class to focus on

I've been a warrior for a long time

twin goblet
#

BGs just always have outside factors like imagine you should be shitting on a hunter, but this hunter picked up beserking

#

And you lose now

fierce elm
#

Devoker pumps ret

#

MM pumps ret

twin goblet
#

If you want to still play big sword guy but need break from warrior try dk

#

Good in raid, m+, and PvP

wheat jay
#

when someone says they do GIGA DMG

#

and you see this

lavish quest
#

That's giga dam for a warrior

wheat jay
#

indeed keks

lavish quest
#

sad warrior noises

#

Buff warriors

wheat jay
#

buff survi

lavish quest
#

Honestly it doesn't matter much. I'm hardly playing wow atm, tis ded. Lol
I'm just here to troll you for always fotm rerolling
clueless

wheat jay
#

real

#

i mean

#

i play survi

#

i play dh

#

next expansion i might play enh

#

who knows

#

or just ignore pvp and play warr

wanton prairie
#

can anybody help me with pvp gearing 🙂

#

how do u get set pieces for gearing

#

and my pve gear is 525, shud i pvp with this itself + pvp trinkets (conq points)

wheat jay
#

you transform conq pieces into tier pieces

#

catalyst

wanton prairie
#

ohhhhh

#

do they give the same stats as the pve set pieces?

#

or the ones i bought (vers+mast, haste+mast)

wanton prairie
#

awwwww then wats the point?

#

ill prolly just buy pieces around the pve set then

narrow compass
#

Is Dev Evoker / Demo Lock / Frost Mage a lobby I'm just naturally going to bang my head into a wall over and over?

lavish quest
narrow compass
#

😦

#

0-6

lavish quest
wheat jay
#

and if so probably something new

#

maybe enh if the rework is fun

#

even now im hella bored of the meta

#

its just dh

#

affli

#

assa

#

shadow priest

#

resto druid

#

or presvoker that goes oom super fast and still heals same as if he had full lol

fierce elm
#

yet say you will everytime I call you out on it

wheat jay
#

ye i will

#

easy 2100

#

lmao

rich peak
#

Can anyone please share their fury macro for our big cds

limber relic
#

we back bby

twin goblet
#

lightwork

#

im 4.5k rn on my alt spec fury

#

get it together

limber relic
fallen estuary
woeful solstice
#

I always play dk or surv if I take a break on warrior

wheat jay
#

Its dogshit atm xD

lavish quest
#

It's fotm

#

(In 2s)

#

:)

#

Sorry
Foty?

#

Fotd?

wheat jay
#

Fotd i guess in 2s

#

Ye for 2s go for it

#

Mad fun there

#

3s fuck no xD

#

Shuffle debatable

lavish quest
#

3s is just 2s with a couple extra people, therefore sv is fotm

river walrus
#

I always play warrior and/or dk

rich peak
#

Can anyone please share their fury macro for our big cds

#

do we normally open with ravager + reck?

#

and then avatar + dragon roar?/

river walrus
lavish quest
#

People have been playing it this season

#

Madmen I tell you

river walrus
#

Did they buff it?

lavish quest
#

Something like that

#

I play arms so I don't have hands on experience with it. But it's definitely the fury go to atm

sharp meteor
rich peak
#

Can anyone share their cd macros for fury then

lavish quest
#

/respec Arms

#

Best macro I got for ya

sharp meteor
#

Do you play at all I just see you doom about fdk

rich peak
#

already playing arms I wanna try out fury

lavish quest
#

I haven't played fury really since S1 so... i don't remember and am at work atm. Sorry

#

/cast All the big buttons
/cast Rampage

sharp meteor
#

At cursor ravvy is nice

#

Fury doesn't really have much

rich peak
woeful solstice
# river walrus I don't like hunters, sorry

If you haven’t tried it yet, Surv is entirely different from other 2 specs and there’s some good crossover with arms in terms of how it feels. Just throwing it out there

rich peak
#

i usually charge ravage and then reck

woeful solstice
#

It plays really well on TWW beta rn too

fierce elm
#

ravage cast at player doesnt work no?

#

am I crazy here

#

or is it programmed differently than every other aoe spell

#

also yeah fury has no specific macros

#

just the general interven/charge or w.e you want

river walrus
fierce elm
#

I think he meant Leland lmao

river walrus
#

Ahhhh

river walrus
fierce elm
#

surv very zug zug

#

hit trap is the highest skillcap

wheat jay
#

Its fairly easy in 2s

sharp meteor
#

Still seems bad vs cursor

fierce elm
#

Because any other aoe ability doesnt work on @player

sharp meteor
#

They do though

fierce elm
#

Or did they change that in the 2 hours I was gone

#

years*

sharp meteor
#

Player is self

fierce elm
#

Oh yeah

#

I am so dumb

sharp meteor
#

Can't at target

fierce elm
#

why would you @player it tho lmao

#

Yeah I read it as @target

#

been in a car for 4 hours today so confused kek

#

anyways you should not have it @player compared to @cursor

cinder thorn
fierce elm
#

We did just clarify that I read it wrong

#

But thanks g lmao

sharp meteor
rich peak
#

man fury has issues with snares and roots

lavish quest
fierce elm
#

doomer man

sharp meteor
#

Ava breaks

#

Gnome

#

Bloodrage

lavish quest
woeful solstice
wheat jay
lavish quest
wheat jay
#

Real

lavish quest
#

But someone who stopped playing warrior cuz it sucks, calling me a doomer for saying it sucks

#

Actual madness

woeful solstice
#

Leland is just resident doompoaster

#

Gotta have one

woeful solstice
#

Everyone else can stfu and roll gnome

lavish quest
#

Gnome 🤢

lavish quest
#

No wonder warrior is dead

#

Warrior discord is all hunters/dhs/rets

wheat jay
#

Real

mystic prairie
#

always has been

sharp meteor
#

Because as it's a coward class like rogue

wheat jay
fickle forge
#

So does assassa rogue

wheat jay
#

Stfu ret/dk reroller

#

Noone plays warr anymore in pvp

#

Everyone rerolled or bought boosts

#

Its joever

lavish quest
#

Truu queen

wheat jay
#

Next time I try to push pvp imma just roll the most broken shit thats melee and stick to it

#

Fuckk off with non meta fun specs

#

Not rogue tho, never gonna play that

lavish quest
#

Next time I push pvp, remind me to not

wheat jay
#

2100 is free tho

lavish quest
#

Ye, 2100 pretty easy

wheat jay
#

Oh btw

#

Warrior will be last plate without a mount in combat

quaint osprey
#

my pvp stats feel a little cooked

#

how is it even possible to reach the stats from murlok.io?

sharp meteor
wheat jay
quaint osprey
#

feels useless when im not even the target

quaint osprey
#

still missing 10% somehow

#

i guess i really need that broodkeeper ring

#

even without Legy

lavish quest
wheat jay
#

Leggo, pve ring, enchants and shit

spice hornet
wheat jay
#

Lmao kinda

#

Charge, better charge

dire basalt
#

other players mount the warrior and the warrior chucks them across

wheat jay
#

Wait actually

#

Why can't warrior just throw a homie to safety???

#

OH NO SMOKE BOMB

#

Throws a homie to healer

#

Hello?

sharp meteor
#

Twink dragons can lift people up idk why we can't yeet our buddies

#

be like yo get over there

wheat jay
#

Thats such a good fucking idea

#

Just make it a pvp talent or something

#

Or normal talent

sharp meteor
#

imagine if it could be coupled with heroic leap and you go with them

wheat jay
#

I guess normal talejt would be better

sharp meteor
#

cmon buddy we're going rdruid here 🪓

wheat jay
#

Haha

#

Dk be like

#

I HAVE A LEAP

#

Jokes aside, that would be an amazing talent

#

And 100% makes sense for it to exist

kind sentinel
#

Legit just remake heroic throw

#

To do that

#

We already got the name pls blizzard

sturdy valve
#

Is it normal to start off at 1800 rating? Cause I won the first 6 rounds of my first match and like have abosultely gotten my butt handed to me since. ANd i am still 1700 rating.

#

Like I am wishing it would just drop me down to 1200 or something for the love of god.

#

I am like 11 and 42, and its painful.

sharp meteor
limber relic
#

In all greens.

dire basalt
#

How hard is it to get the Shadowflame Illusion? :d

#

Oh, 2100 rating. Reep.

wheat jay
#

unavailable

#

its old

#

you have sand now

lavish quest
#

It's very hard to get shadowflame now. Have to buy an account

#

The fomo of pvp rewards is so lame tho ngl

radiant oasis
#

imagine not playing wow every season for 20 years

#

jesus i just made that number up its actually been 20 years

lavish quest
#

Wasn't very hard to do the 2024-2004 math off rip tbh lol

limber relic
cinder sluice
#

We still die with IP active , we just die slower

radiant oasis
#

ignore pain truly is nothing more than a metaphor for modern medicine

lavish quest
#

Fight them soon in The War Within

cinder thorn
#

The Warrior Within

fickle forge
sturdy valve
#

Can’t even get that daily reward chest for winning a match.

tribal holly
#

Have you tried winning? snicker

sturdy valve
#

Tried but like I am getting so mad. Its is not fun lol

mystic prairie
#

yea conquest farm can be a bitch when it puts you at higher mmr at the beginning. If you had 0/low MMR and knew how to play, every other DPS in your lobbies would go 2-4

sturdy valve
#

Usually they figure out round 1 or 2 I am squishy and I am the one that dies the rest of the matches.

#

Next time I am throwing the first 10 matches lol

#

When I start a new season that is.

mystic prairie
#

I considered just throwing at the beginning too when I wanted to get proper matchups that I could win and gain conquest, but I just played, eventually I got the conq anyway

sturdy valve
#

I mean I am noob at pvp and got a lot to learn as well. But yeah.

I switched to arms but havent tried it in arena yet. Does it use the same mmr for all specs or does it do another evaluation on first 10?

tribal holly
elfin surge
#

?????

#

aight

cinder thorn
#

Throwing is for pussies

sturdy valve
#

Thats me. I am sick of getting stomped over and over lol

#

It would be fine if would have just lowered my mmr faster. I was 11 wins out of 42 rounds and did one more
Match and was still 1700.

#

Well, it was 1690 I think

tribal holly
elfin surge
#

BASED

#

SF pvp when?

tribal holly
#

Are you ready to take on the responsibilities? 8)

elfin surge
#

no i want tyrannical authority

tribal holly
#

Ok lets make it pg 13 kekW_salute

elfin surge
#

u can use emotes from other cords wtf

tribal holly
#

Oh yeah think SF also can FingerGuns

elfin surge
tribal holly
#

Any pin worthy new information? Or old ones need updating?

elfin surge
#

idk im not even playing this season keks

#

but nobody is tbh

#

TWW pvp is back tho

#

right? deadge

sharp meteor
elfin surge
tribal holly
elfin surge
#

prot is nerd spec

tribal holly
#

I agree

elfin surge
#

Colossus Arms xan

elfin surge
#

catgirlgame

sharp meteor
tribal holly
#

Ffxiv kekdog

sharp meteor
elfin surge
#

...

#

man

sharp meteor
#

Catboy simulator.

elfin surge
#

lol i wouldnt know i dont play weeb games

tribal holly
#

And?

elfin surge
#

and nothing

elfin surge
lavish quest
#

Mid prefers to watch weeb anime, rather than play the games

#

Of the spicy variety

elfin surge
lavish quest
#

Phone autocorrected your name to mid

elfin surge
#

i heard calling anime cartoons triggers the weebs

tribal holly
#

Why would it?

lavish quest
#

My phone auto corrects correctly spelled words all the time

#

If you mean offending weebs. Have you met weebs?

elfin surge
lavish quest
elfin surge
#

You always have a choice. xan

#

@tribal holly should i send u my sf pvp resume? xan chatting

spice hornet
#

Sorry bud, Dekel was promoted to SF @elfin surge

elfin surge
spice hornet
wheat jay
#

what you gonna put into resume?

#

get your bench up before you apply

lavish quest
quaint osprey
#

did somebody open some gates?

#

warlock rogue every game

#

??

fierce elm
#

yeah for the past 2 months

wheat jay
#

Affli assa is meta

#

Very much so

dense herald
#

1st game after vacation

#

i m unninstalling

little lava
quaint osprey
wheat jay
#

Whats it going to do?

#

They reapply everything in two globals

quaint osprey
#

so you just take the L against assa affli with perma 70% slow?

dense herald
#

yes

quaint osprey
wheat jay
#

Yep

#

Have fun

sharp meteor
sharp meteor
mystic prairie
#

whats the most profitable way to spend excess conquest?

sharp meteor
sturdy valve
#

So I tried Arms out in arena, went great on the first round and went 6-0. Does it start new on your MMR though? Cause it put me at 2100 I guess and got absolutely smashed the next match and made most everyone mad lol

#

But arms is fun, I think I like it much better than fury for now.

sharp meteor
#

We're 400 free mmr up give or take.

#

Beginner mmr is roughly 1900 now.

sturdy valve
#

Oh so 2100 isn't that high? Its still too high for me though I think lol, wish it did not do that.

#

I feel another losing streak coming on lol

#

Maybe I will get the 2h weapon in the vault tomorrow though!

radiant oasis
#

You could pop eleven charges of healing in an instant

#

Cracked

#

Fried even

#

Sunny side up

urban skiff
#

what is blizzard doing with those shaman changes