pvp

[thick reef]

Do you not know Sony's new banning software?

It's there to ban you heuristically, rather than someone actually having to come in and ban your account

[lavish quest]

But again, why would Sony care about it? They're publishing the game, not running it.

[thick reef]

say spicy words like people who play helldivers are liable to do and you catch a ban mid-game

[thick reef]

Because then publishers are less willing to use Sony's tools, as evidenced by this drama

[lavish quest]

That's assuming they had to implement this in the first place? That makes no sense tbh

Unless you mean they want to use it a showcase to other companies to use their software?

If so, rather ineffective way to do it

[thick reef]

Sony is trying to make this heuristic banning tool baseline for their platform

or anyone trying to do cross-play with Sony

[lavish quest]

So their interest in bans is they're just happy their tool is in place?

Well good to know it's all for a dumb reason I guess.

[bright kraken]

@thick reef pfp sauce?

[lavish quest]

🤦‍♂️

[rancid granite]

any of you have advice on hurricane vs unhinged

[sharp meteor]

Hurricane better in general probs but unhinged or no talent there good to cancel storm in a pinch.

[rancid granite]

unhinged more for single target burst?

but i see everyone take hurricane

[sharp meteor]

If they're isolated maybe but it's mostly so you can easily cancel storm

to fear, stun, disarm, duel, vene, etc

[rancid granite]

i guess the str really adds up on hurricane

interesting

[lavish quest]

Also the unhinged MS are nerfed in pvp and can hit pets sooooooo it's trash

[sleek wave]

is it just me or i cant win the zugzug melee lobbies since we win via utility instead of like big dam

[vapid tartan]

nah we win thru dam too

Utility is for 3s lul

[violet fossil]

Wood

[lean burrow]

Sony gets paid $60 for the game, then when they sell your data, then when they show their shareholders how many PSN accounts were created

Their community managers delete their twitter, then pin a message on discord and get paid

[grand scaffold]

demo glad inc

[thick reef]

Demo

[grand scaffold]

@bright kraken

vulpera omega race

ahahahahaha

tyrant cranks

got him again

[sleek wave]

but i cant win against pally and dh

[grand scaffold]

bro trried to 2v1 me

ahahahahahahaa

bro got beef with me

[wheat jay]

@grand scaffold did you win?

those games

or did scooby int

[grand scaffold]

uhm

we won 2-3

👍

[wheat jay]

2-3?

BRUH

poor 95% winrate monk

[grand scaffold]

no

in total

we won 2 or 3 games

rest were Ls

[fierce elm]

pure chad vibes

[grand scaffold]

i told my mw sorry bc i spoiled his wr

just wait till i fully gear my demo

im gonna DELETE people

[elfin surge]

WEEB

[hexed ether]

is hunter priest good or something? im in full greens fighting these live lords

[wheat jay]

its always good in 2s

just how 2s are

[hexed ether]

i swear if you throw banner while trap is in the air they still get full trapped. Also why did blizzard think it was ok to not let warriors spell reflect while disarmed

[wheat jay]

they dont

you can reflect disarm

[hexed ether]

no you cant

not anymore

promise

[wheat jay]

I PLAY

HUTNER

I

PLAY

THAT

TALENT

stop lying to me

[hexed ether]

warrior cannot spell reflect while disarmed

as of this very moment

[hexed ether]

yeah i was being facetious. its just all i face in 2s. last season 2400+ mmr was just hunter x teams

[wheat jay]

ye but you can reflect the spell that disarms

ez enough

[wheat jay]

yep

its the best designed spec for 2s

it is what it is

meme bracket

[thick reef]

Welcome to the rice fields

[hexed ether]

true i just cant predict it yet

but while disarmed already warriors cant spell reflect which is weird

so priest can mindgames me for free unless i trinket reflect which doesnt feel good

does spell reflecting survivals disarm, disarm the hunter? if so what abilities does it stop them from using?

[wheat jay]

mongoose and killshot

[hexed ether]

is it worth running war disarm?

[fierce elm]

naaa

probs more worth to just grab war banner

[hexed ether]

i usually run warbanner and zerker shout for the followup fear off of trap

idk if its ms or something but banner been letting full traps through. idk if the hunters kiting out of range so banner cant tic before trap but i swear its within 30 yrds. my banners are usually on point but its feeling weird lately.

also boomie disarms so they can full clone me feels bad too

i just wonder why blizzard did that

[rancid granite]

the icon is like a shield as in the shield reflects the spell

cant punch the spell back at them we that buff

[hexed ether]

spell reflect doesnt require a shield to reflect

[rancid granite]

i mean... ok hit it back with a sword

[hexed ether]

it wasnt needed before but is needed now is the problem.

they gave other classes that didnt need disarm a disarm and nerfed war ability for outplay

[hexed ether]

shock wave has a picture of a weapon but a weapon isnt required to use it. bet they take that away next while disarmed lol

[wheat jay]

I dunno in shadowlqnds warr and sub were so broken that every class needed a disarm xD

And then it was still not enough

[hexed ether]

very true bro

im alright with blizz nerfing war utility but buff our damage. BFA war wasnt fun imo

maybe its just early season meta. with the pve gear leggo, both rings, and sark back maybe we'll pump but it shouldnt be a requirement to maximize our damage in pvp

[wheat jay]

Well this expansion is basically over

So gotta wait for 11.0

[hexed ether]

lol the proc bladestorm slayer build might be fun but we'll have to wait and see

imo mop and sl war felt the best

the tactician feel of war is what i want back. the ability to outplay and predict the other teams cds usage. its still there to a degree. remember when we used to be able to intervene traps lol.

i could pixel stack on my healer and 50/50 if i get the trap or not

[fickle forge]

N A H
A
H

How many games?

[fierce elm]

15

[rare oak]

Hey are we able to craft two pieces yet?

[fierce elm]

no

next reset

[rare oak]

What should I spent my conq on at the moment then?

I've got my chest/shoulders, strife weapon

[fierce elm]

big pieces unless you hope for RNG in vault

Because you want 4 set by next week

[rare oak]

So basically the higher the conq cost the better?

[fierce elm]

generally yes because main stat trumps most stats

[rare oak]

Gotcha thank you <3

[limber relic]

conq reset next week tho so np

[wheat jay]

Inb4 we get conq unlock

Would be the best

[fierce elm]

we wont

[limber relic]

will be next week

99% sure

[fierce elm]

maybe

I like speed gearing

get it done

get pumping

[wheat jay]

Yep

[limber relic]

it was the same s4 SL

[wheat jay]

This is fhe best

[fierce elm]

yeah but nobody played s4 sl

[limber relic]

also new patch on wednesday

[wheat jay]

And I did it even faster cuz of pve

[limber relic]

its always conq cap removal last patch

[wheat jay]

524ilvl rn

[limber relic]

same

[wheat jay]

Ye but you got another 7ilvl on weapon xD

Which is busted

[limber relic]

but im guessing u got pve gear?

[fierce elm]

he is a hunter

[wheat jay]

One tier piece and weapon for bullions

[limber relic]

has to be the fastest legend this ssn by FAR

YIKES

[wheat jay]

Now say number of games

[limber relic]

prob alot BUT i was mostly just farming crests to upgrade lego

[wheat jay]

[fierce elm]

[limber relic]

did u reach 2400 @wheat jay yet?

[wheat jay]

Ye, today

[limber relic]

pog

now say numbers of games

[wheat jay]

Last 5 shuffles were 3x 4-2 and 2x 1-5

Sth around 370

[limber relic]

[wheat jay]

Got 2400 and rank was 8

So pretty good

[balmy dawn]

hello

tier sets dont activate in pvp rtight?

[lavish quest]

They do

[balmy dawn]

oh

[lavish quest]

Nerfed by 50% tho

[balmy dawn]

ah i see

whats good trinket set for arms?

for pvp

[lavish quest]

Cc break and the proc one

[balmy dawn]

i think the sigil and insignia are cool

these two

[lavish quest]

Adaptation is bad.
Insignia is good

[balmy dawn]

oh

so medalion then?

[lavish quest]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

Idr

But we had negative wlr

[wheat jay]

Helldivers has been liberated

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[lavish quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1221824356947202210.png?size=160

[grand scaffold]

As soon as reset hits and my lock gets that fat 4 set

And weapon

Insta glad

[lavish quest]

Man really wants to quit being a war main fast

[wheat jay]

You would too if you played with scooberz's ele

[wheat jay]

You would too if you played with scooberz's ele

[lunar sparrow]

How are you guys finding rating gains in 3s so far? (Not sure if I asked already I m not the smartest)

I found 2s quite smooth ish despite being not giga experienced as warrior

[lavish quest]

Imagine playing with a caster c uck

[wheat jay]

Nah bro you don't understand

They had like 15% wr

[lavish quest]

Same for Vesa, and she's doing "just fine"

[balmy dawn]

lol why does it say it upgrades the minimum level in pvp too?

bug?

[lavish quest]

Bug

[wheat jay]

Nah bro

I saw them play

[wheat jay]

Visual bug

[lavish quest]

Tell me more

[wheat jay]

Solidified the meme of "don't speak unless you have high rating (3000 NA, 1600 EU)"

Ndogo played well tho

[lavish quest]

Damn, EU so toxic

[wheat jay]

NA so bad

[fierce elm]

Yeah EU sucks

[wheat jay]

Not me, I'm amazing

[fierce elm]

worst region tbh

[lavish quest]

We invented spreading democracy

[wheat jay]

Need more dmg

[lavish quest]

[bright kraken]

the damage didn't even matter

it was a healer difference

healer difference and dh was bad

like bad to the point they were kill target

first round they died with all defensives

[fierce elm]

need a better transmog thats why

[wheat jay]

Real

Like me

[bright kraken]

Need 2.4k to have a good mog
Need to have a good mog to get 2.4k

[fierce elm]

The sword doesnt make a good mog

The good mog was the friends we made along the way to 2.4

[lavish quest]

No, the other one

[fierce elm]

this is what beating a mage at 3am does to someone

He went 2-4

or somethng

[lavish quest]

Nah, red sward 100% makes the mog

[wheat jay]

This?

[fierce elm]

Its so doo doo

[lavish quest]

Yes

[fierce elm]

Look at me guys im also a warrior

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

Mortal strike!

Overpower!

Execute!

woah im so full of rage

[balmy dawn]

@fierce elm silvera

[fierce elm]

: )

I have changed after rerolling Ret

[bright kraken]

@wheat jay should i have gone ret or mage in frost/ret with DH/arms

both healers were disc

[fierce elm]

Drag ret to mage

kill ret

Cleave and they cant do much

unless the ret also wants to play at range

[wheat jay]

^

You are arms dh

You can kill ANYTHING

[bright kraken]

so it was my fucking call

hallelujah

[bright kraken]

so it wasnt my fucking call

shit game

[wheat jay]

Just swap targets

[lavish quest]

Bipolar?

[wheat jay]

You can swap targets easily

Half of my shuffle games I kill something that wasn't my kt

[lavish quest]

Artji has bad aim tho

[lavish quest]

Dmg always matter btw

[wheat jay]

Real

Spray and pray

[bright kraken]

i mean

first game dh died on opener with all cds and didnt even blur

and healer was in cc

idk how damage mattered there

sorry was not in cc*

[lavish quest]

If you do more damage, your opponents get scared and play defensively, and thus less likely to kill anything

[lavish quest]

Don't want to see your toilet

Or get killed by you in helldivers lul

[wheat jay]

Spray and pray

Full standing

Hands up in the air

[fierce elm]

PvP is a subpar gamemode

[wheat jay]

It is

[fierce elm]

I would much rather sit in LFG queue waiting for an m+ group to accept me then wait for a tank in 20 minutes

[lavish quest]

You're going about it all wrong

Just be the tank.
Become the chad.

[fierce elm]

hard pass

beta job

[lavish quest]

Role of kings

I pull 3 packs, watch all 4 of my party die, but just keep on soloing the pack while they run back

[fierce elm]

Gotta try out my new trinket baby

[lavish quest]

Naturally made the leader of groups.

Short queue times, easy invites

Egirls want you

Everything

[wheat jay]

You play wow, there's no good egirls

[lavish quest]

Not the point

[wheat jay]

It is

[lavish quest]

Stop focusing on the egirls Artji.
Coomer

[wheat jay]

[rancid granite]

only bad egirls?

[wheat jay]

Bad bitches

[rancid granite]

[lavish quest]

You and @elfin surge down bad... smh

[gaunt dune]

Are gnomes still the best option for war?

[fierce elm]

yes

[gaunt dune]

ty

[onyx marlin]

bruh, there are so many ppl wtrading this season

the fuck

[lavish quest]

Welcome to the meta mf

Heard it was starting to get bad last season, but I got no clue personally

[fierce elm]

is always bad

[grand scaffold]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4scpF6J5uMBvoh6sFB7EL1?si=57fc2706005b4db2

BAD BITCHES IS THE ONLY THING THAT I LIKE

this song too hard

[full quiver]

😂

[rancid granite]

really wish we could use emojis on comments here

so i could put a thumbs down under that link

[grand scaffold]

you have no taste

[rancid granite]

i gave it a listen at least lol

[grand scaffold]

listen to the actual song

[limber relic]

Arms
The Arms Season 4 2-piece and 4-piece class set bonuses are longer reduced by 50% in PvP combat.

dagadgadgafhga

Arms
The Arms Season 4 2-piece and 4-piece class set bonuses are longer reduced by 50% in PvP combat.

Fury
Rampage damage is now increased by 50% in PvP combat (was 40%).
Raging Blow damage is now increased by 30% in PvP combat (was 15%).
Execute damage is now increased by 80% in PvP combat (was 65%).

[wheat jay]

why the fuck you lying

why you always lying

oh my god

stop fucking lying

[limber relic]

im not

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-class-tuning-incoming-may-7/1846788

come stream

[wheat jay]

ohhh

that wasnt included in wowhead post

[limber relic]

yea

[wheat jay]

big

[grand scaffold]

SNIPER SHOT NERFED

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

[wheat jay]

good

[granite quest]

Let's go

[limber relic]

5% tho

aimed shot buffed by 15

and rapid fire

[clever knoll]

Don't suppose anyone is having any issues with charge in their macros today? My charge/hamstring macro appears to just not work anymore

Nvm im a dumb fuck, mustve accidentally hit a key when looking at macros today

[sharp meteor]

Protection buffs.

[fierce elm]

RET DODGING NERFS LEFS GO

[sharp meteor]

Still affected by mm modifier so nerf doesn't do much, changes overall net buff to mm by decent bit

[full quiver]

We both got nerfed

Cause every other class buffed

[fierce elm]

yeah na

im gucci

[full quiver]

Then why r u tanking

Exactly

[fierce elm]

why are you still 1600

[full quiver]

Checkm8

[fierce elm]

exactly

[full quiver]

Hello

[fierce elm]

Your lil 40k dps ele shaman

[full quiver]

We are 1800 gamer now

This week 1950

[fierce elm]

getting carried by one r1 healer and a multiglad

lmao

[full quiver]

Got the 1800 with tek

And a never glad healer

Hello

[fierce elm]

1800 is ez

Cant believe Tek is carrying you

[full quiver]

Says the ret who has never hit it

Hmmmm

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[fierce elm]

why are you looking at my ret lmao

[full quiver]

Exactly

Never 1800

Noob

[fierce elm]

I cant help that Karg/James can play like once per week for like 20 seconds lmao

[full quiver]

Challenger ret afro

[fierce elm]

lmao

the 40k dps ele

[full quiver]

Was not my best sessionn

Night before while baked was doing way better lol

[grand scaffold]

its not actually 5%

it was 20 before

and its 15 now

thats a 25% change

[limber relic]

huh

[grand scaffold]

15

divided by 20

its 75%

its a change of 25%

think about it

its proportionally

HUGE

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

His dick going from 2 inch to 3 inch is huge proportionally speaking

[wheat jay]

get math diffed

[grand scaffold]

50% change

[fierce elm]

150% change

[grand scaffold]

how

its 50%

[fierce elm]

150%

2 is 100%

[limber relic]

idk

[fierce elm]

3 is 150%

[limber relic]

all i see is

it was 20%

[fierce elm]

we are both correct

lmao

[limber relic]

now its 15%

[fierce elm]

If you go from 100 bucks to 101 bucks you have 101% the amount of bucks you had

also why are you queueing at 3am on your alt seif

[grand scaffold]

bro

150% change

means it would be 5

[fierce elm]

150% total

[grand scaffold]

indeed

✅

[limber relic]

wat? if u had 100 bucks to 101 its not 101% XD

[grand scaffold]

yes it is

haha

[fierce elm]

If you had 100 bucks, and you got 1 buck, you have 101% the amount of bucks you had

lmao

[vital quarry]

yes it is

Xd

[grand scaffold]

what are you on

[fierce elm]

if 100 bucks is 1, and you get 1 buck so you have 101 bucks, 101 bucks is 1.01

aka 101%

So if you have 1 buck and you get another one so you have 2 bucks you have 200% the amount of money you had

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[grand scaffold]

just type 100 x 1.01 in a calculator

[limber relic]

doest mean its a 101% increase

[grand scaffold]

no

its a 1% increase

[fierce elm]

you have 101% the amount of money you had

[grand scaffold]

yes

[limber relic]

means its 101% of 100%

[grand scaffold]

yers

yes

101% of 100%

is literally

101%

ahah

[limber relic]

doesnt mean is INCREASED BY 101%

[fierce elm]

I didnt say that lmao

[grand scaffold]

we legit just said that

[fierce elm]

You have 101% the amount of money you had

[grand scaffold]

yes

[limber relic]

mby i read it wrong mb

doin 2s

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

That's not what words mean. You're wrong on this one.

[fierce elm]

no u

[lavish quest]

150% of the length, but only a 50% change

[fierce elm]

That I worded wrong so thats mb

[lavish quest]

SMH, what are they teaching EU

[fierce elm]

you have 150% the amount of inches you had

lmao

Ret brain just tryna final verdict here

[lavish quest]

How we know more when we dodging bullets?

[fierce elm]

If I have 3 holy power and suddenly have 5 holy power I am not pressing my buttons good enough

[limber relic]

its weird wording ngl

[fierce elm]

why are you queueing solo shuffle at 3AM ON YOUR ALT SEIF

[full quiver]

leave it to a an arms warrior

[grand scaffold]

indeed

[full quiver]

to not know how to do algebra

surprised afro not still on warrior

since he can't read

[grand scaffold]

hilarious

😂

[fierce elm]

ret is worse

[full quiver]

is this discord really degen

i've never been in pala disc

feral disc is worst one i've ever seen lol

[fierce elm]

no its dead as fuck in pvp

except for all the hpala people complaining

lmao

[violet fossil]

penis

pen15

[fierce elm]

WHICH CHAT WOULD ONE WRITE IN

[grand scaffold]

DICK

[grand scaffold]

who even knows

[calm rover]

What does that arms wording mean?

[fierce elm]

what does what mean

[violet fossil]

PvP one

if you have any questions they about the specs they make you ask in the other ones

Kinda weird

Ngl

[fierce elm]

its extremely weird

I dont like it

[violet fossil]

Then again discord

[calm rover]

"The Arms Season 4 2-piece and 4-piece class set bonuses are longer reduced by 50% in PvP combat." -- i initially read this as 'no longer.'

[limber relic]

i was trying to cap vault

xd

[fierce elm]

christ lmao

I was wonderng what the fuck you were doing

[limber relic]

haha did i play against u?

[fierce elm]

probably just a misspelling

I got absolutely rolled because my ret fucking sucks

[limber relic]

was it my 6/0 lobby?

[fierce elm]

yeah lmao

dont ask me why im playing soloshuffle at 3am

[calm rover]

Is the set bonus currently nerfed by 50%?

[fierce elm]

every set bonus is

This just removes that from the warrior one

[rancid granite]

@grand scaffold can you just pin the updates in a tldr version when its all sorted out

[calm rover]

So its typo and they mean its "no longer"? Seems pretty big

[fierce elm]

yes its a typo

it happens sometimes

[lavish quest]

Or they're nerfed 50% for a longer period of time

😉

[calm rover]

Wondering how that affects crit priority

[fierce elm]

nerfed for 30 seconds in pvp

I would invest slightly in crit tbh

Like sitting at 20% crit would lead to MS having a 30% crit chance

[calm rover]

Yeah

[fierce elm]

30% chance to get 8% more crit and 8% more damage

[full quiver]

they should nerf all damage of warrior by 30%

and buff ele

[fierce elm]

Just gotta see how it pans out

We are all gonna have 4 set next reset anyways

[full quiver]

@quasi lotus

why is he still here

😂

[fierce elm]

And seeing if they uncap conq you can just re-gear into anything

[calm rover]

Yeah

Is that rumor still going?

[fierce elm]

yeah wouldnt be surprising

[calm rover]

Uncapping next week

[fierce elm]

but I wouldnt fully trust it either

[calm rover]

Hm

[fierce elm]

You are gonna regardless buy the pieces you need this week

[grand scaffold]

wdym

i dont know too many acronyms

[grand scaffold]

buff demo

[full quiver]

buff demo and ele

make tyrant do 300% more damage

i swear demo is just caster version of outlaw lol

[urban skiff]

My wife and i used to play demo+outlaw in MoP 2s

[lavish quest]

What if they made crits do 75% extra dam, but only for warrior.
Thoughts?

[urban skiff]

I miss old demo

[lavish quest]

Can call them tactical crits

[grand scaffold]

indeed

[urban skiff]

Yo ndogo is fury gonna be good now?

[fierce elm]

no

[urban skiff]

it feels like we hit the "accidentally overbuffed fury" part of the expansion

mostly because it's the last chance for them to make that mistake again, as is tradition

[gusty horizon]

Hey guys, I just read the patch notes. Will arms warr's stat prioritization change a bit to crit? If so, how much % crit should we have?

[fierce elm]

We dont know yet

gotta see how changes feel in the coming week

I think we are gonna be looking at crit being more valuable

[grand scaffold]

no

its problem is its squishy af

but the damage change will be nice

[gusty horizon]

But it sounds interesting. I'm curious when it goes live

[fierce elm]

Waiting for fury tsg to pump tomorrow

[urban skiff]

With no knowledge about anything I'm still calling it on intuition: We're going to gear the exact same as before on arms but damage will just go up and crit will suck less

[urban skiff]

How much DR would it take to make fury not suck?

[fierce elm]

50%

[thick reef]

Yes

[fierce elm]

just go play ret

[urban skiff]

At some point they'll have buffed fury damage enough that it can perform just fine from a permanent dstance

[grand scaffold]

?

wdym

[fallen estuary]

Fury is literally free cr rn

These buffs are so damn good itll put it on par with arms

[fierce elm]

Free CR to your enemies

[urban skiff]

I mean how much damage reduction would it take for fury to be "normal" squishy level

[grand scaffold]

unnerf warpaint

unnerf bt healing

unnerf bt healing

there are 2 bt

[fierce elm]

Makes sense

fury strength was self healing

instead of defensives lmao

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[urban skiff]

none of these makes fury more squishy than baseline

it's not like we still have extra damage taken during enrage

[grand scaffold]

what

[urban skiff]

what what?

[dense herald]

2.2% dmg increse overall?

[zealous totem]

anyone know why whenever i enter a bg my bars completely change? never had this happen before, just now started doing it, i have paging disabled on all my bars

[dense herald]

[dense herald]

You have less dmg taken during enrage

[urban skiff]

correct. In the old days, fury took extra damage whenever enraged.

[fallen estuary]

2.2% mastery technically lol still good

I cant wait to diarrhea shit shart my rampages on dks this tuesday

[rancid granite]

ah the good ol diarrhea shit shart

[exotic rock]

what is the best combo with arms warrior right now for 3v3 arena ?

[fierce elm]

The same as it was last season

although with the buffs rolling in tomorrow/wednesday that might change

and TSG might be an actual comp again

[floral mirage]

Arms
The Arms Season 4 2-piece and 4-piece class set bonuses are no longer reduced by 50% in PvP combat.

Fury
Rampage damage is now increased by 50% in PvP combat (was 40%).
Raging Blow damage is now increased by 30% in PvP combat (was 15%).
Execute damage is now increased by 80% in PvP combat (was 65%).

[fierce elm]

yes

[full quiver]

god i do not want to queue into tsg

on shaman

lmao

[dense herald]

Do u want this to happen

[floral mirage]

blizz updated patch notes

[dense herald]

Where

Fake

[fierce elm]

Im not trusting patch notes rn

because two sources say no arms changes

one does lmao

[dense herald]

There are no patch notes

With those changes

[fierce elm]

thats what im saying

SUS

[dense herald]

The latest one does not have any changes for warriors in pvp

[fierce elm]

guess w just have to see tomorrow

[grand scaffold]

8 hr maintenance

what are these mfs doing

rebuilding the servers?

[fierce elm]

New PvE content

[grand scaffold]

no wonder

they taking a virtual dump

[floral mirage]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/dragonflight-class-tuning-incoming-may-7-1846788

[fierce elm]

yeah what about the other two that doesnt show that lmao

Such as the frontpage post on Wowhead

[dense herald]

Thats fake

[fierce elm]

the mmo-champ post

[dense herald]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-dragonflight-class-tuning-on-weekly-reset-vengeance-dh-nerf-balance-339230?webhook

[fierce elm]

s u s

[floral mirage]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dragonflight-class-tuning-incoming-may-7/1846788/1

the post dont update automatically when blizzard do changes

so, u must go to the source

no to the wowhead frontpage post or related

[fierce elm]

s u s

[grand scaffold]

warr is getting changes

lemme not lie

[fierce elm]

s u s

[grand scaffold]

bruh its on wowhead

[fierce elm]

s u s s a g e

[grand scaffold]

my healer upset i refused to buy conq gear rn

even though reset is legit tomorrow

[fierce elm]

lmao

I mean I think we are getting uncapped conq

[grand scaffold]

idts

its usually around the 5k mark

i think its 1 more week

[rancid granite]

time to get the alotted sunlight for the whole week tomorrow

bless the long maintenance for health

[grand scaffold]

ima just study chess ngl

ez

[zealous totem]

How much worse is fury in pvp compared to arms

[fierce elm]

about 3.50

[violet fossil]

About 1

[rancid granite]

2 big weapons > 1 big weapon

so 1 is the right answer

[limber relic]

ez 500k+ MS after reset

if u have spear u gna do 750k+ spear i belive

[rancid granite]

spear back???? cant wait

[limber relic]

prob stil shit cuz u can get out of it too ez

[hexed ether]

spear is nerfed in pvp

[limber relic]

oh?

[sharp meteor]

long cd crit nerfed competes with big dam bleed or aoe stun idk

[limber relic]

same cd as roar

and u can stil pick shockwave

[sharp meteor]

like if you're only killing in all in goes that they can't get out of it might be okays

just seems so eh when games as damp as they are

and stuff can just break it

[limber relic]

yeah no i wasnt saying spear is good

[sharp meteor]

i guess there's the surprise factor of people having not seen it in years

[limber relic]

but fury might just outshine arms anywyas

[sharp meteor]

curious to see the output because fury just didn't offer much yee

[hexed ether]

535 leggo + ashkandur 522 might put up numbers. play testing ashkandur in arenas and procs for 100k+

[calm rover]

the best feeling in this game has to be someone panicking, blinking/sprinting from their healer, for a charge-execute follow up

[green moon]

is that 3% damage increase good enough to see more fury in high rating pvp? i mean, i'm at 1800 (around 2k mmr) on both and fury felt way better than expected but i'm pretty sure it's because people doesen't know how to play against a fury xD

(speaking about solo shuffle)

[bright kraken]

I just saw tuning changes (how TF was survival not touched) just wanna know if it's an overall buff or loss for us

@sharp meteor

[sharp meteor]

For what, exactly

All three Warr specs buffied

[bright kraken]

Pvp

We got buffed but so did boomie and aff

[sharp meteor]

Balance nerfed, I think, and Aff even or slightly negatively adjusted?

Changes seem nice. c:

[bright kraken]

No boomie was buffed im psure

Am I just dyslexic

[sharp meteor]

Adjustment to tier, sure, but they also lost teamwide crit so

[bright kraken]

I see

Boomie was nerfed

MM nerfed too

Aff got agony damage reduced

I swore boomie damage was buffed

Maybe because I read the EU article idk

[sharp meteor]

MM got a moderate buff

[bright kraken]

Well something changed

I'm fucking egg aight

[sharp meteor]

Nerf to snipey shot buff to ai/rf

[sharp meteor]

Eh?

[bright kraken]

Dumb

Im dumb

xd

[bright kraken]

Think that's going to affect our buff or nah?

[wicked quail]

tsg is back boys

if ur a high T gamer, ditch the ret, and play with dk

[bright kraken]

Lf healer and DK for 3s glad push frfrfr

[plush yacht]

Would you imagine its better to gear Hate/Crit now, as moving away from the rot build?

[bright kraken]

rate my dumbass team

[fierce elm]

1/10

not a warrior in sight

[lunar sparrow]

arms getting a buff - i did not see that in patch notes or am i missing something?

i saw you guys discuss it but its not mentioned in class tuning iirc

or was that for fury?

[fierce elm]

The updated notes contained the arms buff

So both specs received a buff

[lunar sparrow]

ah fair ye its not on the wowhead article

nice good stuff though

[fierce elm]

Its a pretty big buff tbh

[lunar sparrow]

ye for me the 2 comps i ve not been able to beat in 2s so far is Assa/X and Frostmage/X

[fierce elm]

Assa is recieving nerfs and a damage curve change

Frostmage is just aids to deal with as a warrior regardless

[lunar sparrow]

i heard they arent quite as aids in 3s supposedly

but in 2s a freaking nightmare

[fierce elm]

Warriors comps in 3s covers their weaknesses

so yeah

[lunar sparrow]

ye i m giga looking forward to trying to push 3s after next reset

curious if we ll be able to compete with DHs

[fierce elm]

Probably not but arms will be in a better position overall

[lunar sparrow]

still fairley early in the season id think so there could be more changes in the meta - lets hope at least haha

[fierce elm]

I think UHDK is looking to be quite good ngl

[lunar sparrow]

ye patch notes are looking juicy for them

[onyx marlin]

still paper

[lavish quest]

But they'll give you more paper cuts

[stiff wraith]

how do you get the legendary axe if you didnt get it last season?

im doomed arent i

[fierce elm]

wdym

just go and kill Fyrrakk

plenty of groups up usually

[stiff wraith]

no groups up in premade

literally all aberrus

[stiff wraith]

wtf mine is all aberrus

surely im being trolled

[fierce elm]

you are

[stiff wraith]

they should just make it 100% drop rate at this point of xpac

[lavish quest]

It is. If you killed it 15 times on heroic

[fierce elm]

I mean im pretty sure they increased the droprate

and Fyrakk is very easy to kill now

because its non-awakened

[wheat jay]

It was easy last patch too

Just do more than gray parse dmg

[lavish quest]

Askin a bit much aren't you

I love my gray parses

[wheat jay]

No.

[rancid granite]

ty for the advice i kinda assumed any pve gear was just gonna be unobtainable to me

can't wait to try to do some fryakk runs now

[spice hornet]

conq was not uncapped

[wheat jay]

smh why

[sharp meteor]

Increased cap but not uncapped, ye.

Can't go directly off PTR.

[rancid granite]

+1250 conquest this week; servers back up though!

[fierce elm]

WACK

[little junco]

Crit 2h weapon from vault worth getting for arms pvp?

[fierce elm]

yes

if its the 528 pvp wep

[little junco]

It is, ty

[sharp meteor]

[fierce elm]

yooooo

You need therapy

[stiff wraith]

Will my fury warriors rise up?

[sharp meteor]

It may be the hour.

Fury has gotten a lot of buffs.

[main verge]

is there a discord for SoD?

[fierce elm]

https://discord.com/invite/RbCZJtw @main verge

[main verge]

my man

[stiff wraith]

If Lego axe doesn’t drop I’m rerolling this week to the superior Moonkin class

[misty hawk]

The bloody token grind is less than awesome

[sharp meteor]

Is fury busto yet

[stiff wraith]

^

[white anvil]

dropped from 2200 to 1940 in solos despite getting my wep. wtf happened?

did lobbies get that much harder in 1 week?

(by wep I mean conq, not lego)

[spice hornet]

no?

@atake what happened? ur the easiest warrior to roll up and smoke in a storm bolt

[grand scaffold]

atake back?

[spice hornet]

oh he left?

little bitch @'d me in here when he killed my alt in 3s whileh e was qing with 2 r1s, just sucked him back in 2s and

wanted to tag him

[grand scaffold]

a long time ago

[grand scaffold]

wow after an 8 hr maintenance

game somehow decreases quality

[violet fossil]

Seems normal

Why’d atake leave?

[grand scaffold]

idk

prob got ratiod

if i was to guess

[violet fossil]

lol

[stiff wraith]

would getting a 528 conq weapon be better than getting 4 set?

(fury)

[urban skiff]

You can turn strife gear into tier so as long as you haven't wasted strife and conq you should have 1x weapon and 4 set this week

in whichever mix you prefer

[stiff wraith]

i've just come back this week so i'm behind

so would you recommend buying conq weap then turning strife gear into tier?

[urban skiff]

there's catchup for strife, if you just farm honor you can still do it

nah

I recommend having it in mind. I usually save all resources for 3-4 resets and then do a combined purchase where I maximize crafts, conq and strife for that week

But it's best to decide for yourself what combination you prefer. For fury I really like buying strife weapon early because it's an excellent offhand for a very long time

[stiff wraith]

i was thinking, 1 piece into strife, 1 tier from 1600 token, 2 conq pieces and conq weapon

[urban skiff]

Upgrading to conq offhand is probably the last thing I'll do if I have to ration conq

[stiff wraith]

i was thinking ashkandur offhand

[urban skiff]

Not bad, but not unlikely to get nerfed before you can truly enjoy it

[stiff wraith]

is it pumping in pvp?

i was just gonna get it for the ilvl

i think you can make it 535

[urban skiff]

Some redditor claimed that 535 pieces downgrade in pvp to 528. I haven't verified if that's true, so check that out first

but a conq lvl weapon is a conq level weapon

[stiff wraith]

like the ilvl downgraded?

[urban skiff]

yeah

I don't believe it personally

[stiff wraith]

yea same

[urban skiff]

I like your ashkandur idea so much I guess I'll have to do some m+ to copy it

[stiff wraith]

yea gotta farm some +6s for the aspects

otherwise i'd get the fyrak leggo but my rng sucks

[urban skiff]

mine too

I expect I'll get it this week though

[calm rover]

not sure that's going to work

looks like it only goes to 528

might still be worth it for the proc though, and we have plenty of versatility

[stiff wraith]

oh crap only 528

ill probally still go for it regardless since i dont have legendary

[haughty jewel]

sup..

[stiff wraith]

😮

[sharp meteor]

Arms finally in a reasonable spot again. 🙏

[lusty moth]

you’re god damn right

[fierce elm]

yo sick

[lusty moth]

they should add achievements for getting killing blows with weak abilities

[floral cradle]

what to do vs dev evoker in 2s? i actually dont know what that spec does

[fierce elm]

s m a s h

[stiff wraith]

get kited the whole game and lose

[dark topaz]

guys you think we'll shift to crit and get the crit neck from vault or should i just get the haste neck for the time being?

[floral cradle]

Thanks Jim

[mild quartz]

Seal of Diurna's Chosen or Seal of Filial Duty with fyrrak wepon is it good?

[haughty jewel]

dirunas is great

BiS by a long shot

[mild quartz]

big

[haughty jewel]

3% dmg increase

[mild quartz]

how about the dmg ring

[radiant hamlet]

between ret and arms what's popping off more in solo shuffle/2s this season?

[mild quartz]

ret bangs

[radiant hamlet]

even in 2s?

[mild quartz]

yeah

[haughty jewel]

thats ithe dmg ring

3% dmg increase

the absorb one im not sure

thats wut im buying next to test

[lusty moth]

free absorb surely it’s okay

[haughty jewel]

vers loss

[lusty moth]

surely you’ll still be able to hit around 40%

[dense herald]

No way

Ret?

You have no mortal strike as ret i thought thats why it sucked in 2s

[stiff wraith]

ret is good in 2s til a certain point

[mild quartz]

boys

we're a gnome today

[fierce elm]

no lmao

Do not play ret in 2s

[wheat jay]

Ret sucks ass in 2s

Everything that makes ret good in 3s, doesnt work in 2s xD

[dense herald]

Guys

Is gnome still gonna be best race for warrior next expac

Cuz ik orc is close to gnome but we got that hero talent that makes charge remove roots and stuff

[fickle forge]

Are 600k verdicts broken in 2s?

[wheat jay]

No

[dense herald]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

No mortal strike?

25% reduced healing

50% with sharpen blade

[wheat jay]

sharpen blade > whole ret kit in 2s

[lavish quest]

Buff warrior

Buff sharpen back

[fickle forge]

Sharpen isn't even that insane since it got nerfed

[dense herald]

Wait what

When did it get nerfed

And by how much

[fickle forge]

Got nerfed on duration a while back

[lavish quest]

And longer CD

[wheat jay]

It is

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[lavish quest]

Needs buffed

[dark topaz]

boomie demo dh lobby ain't fun

is anyone using gladiusex and has problems with it after the patch hit? it's 1st arena i do since reset and the frames weren't showing at all

[fierce elm]

have you updated it

[dark topaz]

yeah

[fierce elm]

some addons are wack rn

so yeah

[dark topaz]

yeah, thought so too

[full quiver]

Yeah mine wasn't working yesterday either

They hadn't released an update for it yesterday

[stiff wraith]

ashkandur not bad in pvp, hitting 131k at 515ilvl

[dense herald]

Is fury decent or

[stiff wraith]

yeah its fun, damage is really good

doesn't beat arms cleave though

[dense herald]

But for like 2s

Where u dont cleave much

And do we use annhialator build still or one with raging blow

[wheat jay]

Its worse in every way

Dmg

Pressure

Burst

Consistent

Peels

Defensives

Its always shit unless it's so overtuned it oneshots everything and everyone

[full quiver]

Fury is huge dam right now

Good with 4pc

[grand scaffold]

i asked #1 fury warrior

its B tier

much better than before tho

[full quiver]

Big slam dam

[grand scaffold]

nobody plays annihilator bro

[wheat jay]

Its still ass compared to arms

If you want to play it, sure

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its 100% playable now

[wheat jay]

But dont expect it to be great

[grand scaffold]

^

how do you get this op ring everybody is talking about

[full quiver]

The fire ring?

I think as war you need the 2h axe to proc it

Leggo

But you can buy the ring with bullions from same spot you got 1600 token

And you xan just do LFR for 20 mins to get the bullions

[fierce elm]

that or do 4 m0s this week

its like a 30k shield

[full quiver]

Nah there's a dam ring

Ele plays both rings 😂😂😂

Couldn't you drop odyns fury for annihilator @grand scaffold

[fierce elm]

there is a fire damage ring yes

And an nature shield ring

[grand scaffold]

no

annihilator gets rid of raging lbow

which buffs slaughtering stirkes

[full quiver]

Oh

Wtf

[fierce elm]

Asking for a friend

[grand scaffold]

so theres no point

[fierce elm]

is there a way to target stats with your craft piece

[full quiver]

????

U mean rhe missives

Lol

[grand scaffold]

theres one that gives ridiculous stats

[fierce elm]

oh yeah those

[grand scaffold]

yeah

how do you get it

[fierce elm]

You buy it with bullion

[grand scaffold]

how do you get those

[full quiver]

I literally

Just typed it for u

Smh

[fierce elm]

do I just gamble the crafted piece lmao

[rancid granite]

[full quiver]

It's like 800g

[fierce elm]

To get like 200 extra stats on both stats

[grand scaffold]

where

[full quiver]

To buy a missive

[fierce elm]

yeah but you get less stats on it

I could gamble it

[full quiver]

SCROLL UP LIKE 10 MESSAGES

HELLO NDOGO

😂

[grand scaffold]

alr bruh

[wheat jay]

So does survi

[full quiver]

Man is cooked

[fierce elm]

artji big man

[wheat jay]

Good thing I do pve hehe

[fierce elm]

Is it worth buying the missive

for less stats

but the right stats

or do I just gamble it lmao

[wheat jay]

????

Always missive

[rancid granite]

you guys making up words it feels like; missives bullions and shit