pvp

[spice hornet]

Warrior is C tier, right?

[elfin surge]

B

[lavish quest]

How could you misspell D like that?

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge arms dams just seems kinda low compared to all other melees

[grand scaffold]

Warr is mid

B is solid placement

[full quiver]

It looked d tier during muds stream

[spice hornet]

skyhold deadge

[steep inlet]

In what world lol

[spice hornet]

the world of what people are playing at the higher end of the ladder

[steep inlet]

It doesn’t mean dmg are low lol

[urban skiff]

charts before we have widespread 4set aren't meaningful. They just show which specs perform better without 4set

[dense herald]

I played arms last week dmg seems low

[steep inlet]

if you say so :)

[dense herald]

I got 2.4k in ss last season but ig dmg just feels low cuz i played 2s with priest

And i we warriors dont have much cc

And 2s games are long 😛

[fickle forge]

Arms still has some insane cleave

[dense herald]

Well ofc sweeping strikes go brrr

And its baseline

[steep inlet]

its not only sweeping

[dense herald]

U mean bladestorm?

[wheat jay]

rend deep wounds sweeping bladestorm tc

[fickle forge]

Told my healer MS didn't hit that hard
First game he watches my stream I hit for 410k

[wheat jay]

nice

you hit a solid rsk

[vital breach]

Is there any build without thunder clap ? Hate it in pvp lol

[fierce elm]

Only suboptimal builds that suck

[fickle forge]

The RSK would have been 500k

[dense herald]

How will u spread rend

If not for tc

[steep inlet]

some R1 plays without anw

matter of choice

[vital breach]

@steep inlet what do they choose instead TC then?

[lavish quest]

Why would you hate TC? Breaking CC?
Otherwise better than pressing rend especially AoE

Better rage spend for more CDR

[fickle forge]

Some play Rend into caster cleaves

But no reason not to into any melee cleave

Just a straight dps loss

[vital breach]

I just dislike how IT looks in pvp enviroment, dunno why xD i would love to just slash ppl not stomp on the ground

[lavish quest]

I mean... if that's your goal, then you're not really looking to be meta anyways so just play whatever you like tbh

[fierce elm]

You can probs hit whatever rank with that anyways

lets be real

[vital breach]

I mean iv got 2400 as devoker, and pretty much mamy specs to 2.2/2.1 just asking if theres any diffirent builds without tc

[fierce elm]

I mean the alternative is just running regular rend

and putting points into whatever else

Nobody has really had this thought before lmao

[lavish quest]

Yea you just untalent it.
But is there some big no clap build link here: ?

No

[fierce elm]

Because there arent any builds w.o it

[lavish quest]

And would just feel worse to play. Hitting rend is lame

[rancid granite]

i always assumed no thunderclap build meant not using rend at all

what am i a rogue

[fierce elm]

kek

[vital breach]

I thought we played TC because of S3 tier set in the first place 😄

[fierce elm]

naa we play it cus rend sucks to hit

and tc just applies to everyone against cleaves

Its just a better rend lmao

[rancid granite]

at least it looks cool, part of the class fantasy

I don't remember using either ability in first few expacs

on another note does anyone use any fancy add on for spell reflects

I use the basic omnibar and gladius so I guess it's just paying attention to who is casting?

[fierce elm]

You could use an addon

I glance at cast bars

[full quiver]

Buff ele shaman wtf

[grand scaffold]

anybody experiment with spear

rogue cloak doesnt get you out anymore

it mightve been buffed?

[fierce elm]

it still sucks

[grand scaffold]

oh alr

[fierce elm]

Karg tried one game

it blows lmao

[grand scaffold]

lol

[full quiver]

Good with fdk

[fierce elm]

it blows

[rancid granite]

shame cause its one of the coolest abilities

[grand scaffold]

this disc died within 2 weeks of warr getting fucked

crazy

[full quiver]

Loser rat paladins like @fierce elm in here

Dimish the cord

[fierce elm]

lmao you are a shaman main

[spice hornet]

its sad how neutered spear is

they need to give us conq banner instead

[rancid granite]

rat paladin 🥹

[full quiver]

Conq banner with thundercleave would be fuckin awesome lmao

Let me blast even more meatballs

[bright kraken]

?

[fierce elm]

Vesa abandoned us

[lavish quest]

Soundbite strikes again

[sleek wave]

feels like solo shuffle is just a roulette on a lobby. and pray no dh

[fierce elm]

pray no boomkin*

[wheat jay]

its 100% pray no boomkin

tho every boomkin is like 2700 now

so 0 risk of facing it xD

[sharp meteor]

unnerf shield slam and rend

[grand scaffold]

season where people hit 4k inc

[grand scaffold]

idt rend is nerfed in pvp

[urban skiff]

is it worth picking wrist or ring from vault or should i just grab the two sockets?

80% sure I'll be running 2x crafted rings and strife bracers are dirt cheap

[urban skiff]

no need, prot is FiNe In BgS

[viscid bluff]

what are the best specs in pvp rn

[wheat jay]

boomy

boomy

and boomy

[fierce elm]

@viscid bluff

[wheat jay]

gentlemen

whatever happens to you on your journey to 2400

or whatever rating you want

I wish for you to never have a lobby such as I had just now

affli, demo, balance

[fierce elm]

looks fine for ret

kek

[viscid bluff]

Why

[fierce elm]

Boomy scales incredibly well with stats

and just seems to have popped off this season

that and the popularity of physical damage dealers their bear form just fucks em up

Paired with cyclone which is incredibly busted

And higher output damage without having to cast

Literal insta cast chaos bolts

[viscid bluff]

sheesh

[violet fossil]

that much damage

Jesus

casters in general gonna scale really well

[full quiver]

Then explain this

WHERE IS SHAMAN

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

popularity is not the same as power

[fierce elm]

yeah dumbass scoobz

[urban skiff]

Shaman is sleeper and totally going to destroy

[full quiver]

shaman needa a buff

ASAP

5% increased lb proc chance per tick and a 20% lb damage buff

Will make them viable

@blizzard

[urban skiff]

incoming +2% buff to chain lightning

and +5% totem size

[violet fossil]

lol

[grand scaffold]

unnerf cs

unnerf avatar

make sweeping strikes like blade flurry

give us second wind from mop

and ill play warr properly

till then rogue more fun

[full quiver]

😂

[fierce elm]

nerf warr

[full quiver]

u should learn outlaw instead of sin rogue

more manly like a warrior smh

[urban skiff]

take sweeping strikes off the gcd

and bring back gladiator stance

[sleek wave]

how dfq are we suppose to handle dh

[urban skiff]

that's the neat part

you RAMPAGE

[fierce elm]

By hitting their partner

[sleek wave]

playing intercept talent still not enough to protect on ss

[fierce elm]

I mean, yeah

you just gotta pump further

DH is gonna beat you if healer cant keep up and you cant apply pressure

If he is cleaving, you should be cleaving

they are extremely susceptible to quick swapping to them too

[sleek wave]

im still thinking if i should go for elite. cant with this 30 mins queue hahaha

[fierce elm]

Swap for 2 seconds and grab blur

[sleek wave]

i wanna get legend

[fierce elm]

swap again grab nether

I mean the season just started

you got time lmao

Dont gotta bang it all out

[sleek wave]

its a really good time cause i have 4 set

[fierce elm]

But yeh facing DH comes a lot down to your healer

[sleek wave]

but legend title goes away right? or is it like a seasonal like glad

[rapid shore]

seasonal

[vital breach]

as far as i know this is permament like gladiator

[rugged temple]

is solo shuffle the future of WoW PvP?

there's barely any actual groups anymore in LFG

[rapid shore]

its not

title i mean

[onyx marlin]

its not

[rapid shore]

r1 legend is

[onyx marlin]

and gladiator title is not permanent either

pennant and mount are tho

[simple rock]

ele and enh are unplayable without 4p lol

[vital breach]

that sucks then

[sharp meteor]

Title isn't, toy is.

[severe skiff]

first lobby of the day demo, frost mage, boomkin. this should be illegal

[limber relic]

blizzard. fix ur game

[wheat jay]

11.0 maybe

[limber relic]

doubt

[wheat jay]

Ye me too

But gotta have some hope haha

Cuz rn meta is dogshit

Boomy everywhere

And its the most annoying shit to face

[lavish quest]

Wow players are just meta slaves, its lame, but it is what it is

[rancid granite]

some of it makes sense, given the odd balancing ie we're using pvp set bonuses picked by pve crew and such right

meta in strictly pvp games is different than meta in wow it seems

[fading heron]

Hey guys, how much haste do i want (in pvp combat)

[rancid granite]

check pins

[fading heron]

thank you

[rancid granite]

[fading heron]

are these stats in pins in pvp combat?

[rancid granite]

mm id assume so cause thats what the ilvl it'd be?

[hexed ether]

ring is nice

[limber relic]

only way to buy it is with bullion?

[hexed ether]

i got mine from quest last week

also could run raid

i raid and m+ so my gear ok right now

[limber relic]

which raid

[wheat jay]

First

[limber relic]

yeh its not awakened anymopre

[wheat jay]

Just get it for bullions later on

[wheat jay]

Nope

[limber relic]

so u cant do it then

[wheat jay]

Ngl 5% is a lot in pvp

[limber relic]

421ilvl

[wheat jay]

Ill probably get it in two weeks

You upgrade it

[hexed ether]

its consistently 2-6%

[wheat jay]

528

[hexed ether]

mines only 515

[wheat jay]

Ye cuz its nm?

Or hc?

[hexed ether]

nm

[wheat jay]

Mythic is 528

[hexed ether]

yes

[wheat jay]

Which is bullion ilvl too

What were the stats?

[limber relic]

crit vers

sadge

[hexed ether]

crit vers

its heavy vers

which is fine

[wheat jay]

Thats a good trade for 5% dmg

Ye

[limber relic]

529ilvl max ilvl

[hexed ether]

without leggo its useless

[limber relic]

12/12

[wheat jay]

Its fire dmg, right?

[limber relic]

yh

[hexed ether]

back from sarc will also be huge

[wheat jay]

Wonder if it would be good on suevi

[hexed ether]

you can run shadowflame emb too

[wheat jay]

Only pheromone bomb and explosive shot are fire

Hmm

[hexed ether]

leggo dot makes it super easy to proc

[limber relic]

sadge

wish i did HC boss for teh ring

[wheat jay]

I could technically play polearm with shadoflame proc

Wonder if that would work

[limber relic]

not worth

[wheat jay]

5% dmg

On a ring

100% worth it

Same ilvl as pvp items

[hexed ether]

ill prob take with it since 535 ilvl

[wheat jay]

Oh right its very rare

So 535 ilvl xD

[hexed ether]

you can buy it

[wheat jay]

Ye

[limber relic]

its not 535

[hexed ether]

back from sark is 535 as well

[limber relic]

its 493 1/12

from bullion

[wheat jay]

Still, worth it

Thats a lot of dmg from one item

[limber relic]

2weeks tho

[hexed ether]

i know what im talking about

[limber relic]

im literally at the vendor

[hexed ether]

look at the ring i was talking about bro

[limber relic]

oh shit

yea

i jsut realize

d

YIKES

[hexed ether]

lol

[limber relic]

cringe

[hexed ether]

free shield and perfect stats

[hexed ether]

yeah bro warriors will be so good with these and leggo

[limber relic]

but doesnt have crit

thats why i thought u meant the other ring

[wheat jay]

Unironically if you do fire dmg both of these are huge xD

[hexed ether]

you want heavy mastery by then

[limber relic]

yea but the proc can go on pets IG

idk if there is an ICD

[hexed ether]

and the cloak will proc as well from people taking damage

.92 ppm

almost 1 a min

of course shield is nerfed

[limber relic]

so the dmg ring is bad ig

[hexed ether]

its less than half

not at all

[wheat jay]

If you can reliably do fire dmg id take ring

[limber relic]

75k every min is bad

[hexed ether]

its free

[limber relic]

but its gna proc on random

[wheat jay]

Ye

[limber relic]

pets

ect

[wheat jay]

As does sudden death

[limber relic]

its like unhinged into pets

[wheat jay]

And we still play it

[hexed ether]

ITS FREE DAMAGE

[wheat jay]

Its potentially free dmg

For near zero loss in stats

[limber relic]

free dmg on random is not great

[wheat jay]

Take it off when facing demo lock then

[hexed ether]

damage on randoms vs zero dps increase

[wheat jay]

And back on into retwarr

[limber relic]

[Seal of Diurna's Chosen] u lose

400 mastery

[hexed ether]

this proced on shadowfiend

[wheat jay]

Lol

[limber relic]

yeah thats 300k gone

[hexed ether]

this proc on shadowpriest

[limber relic]

2s?

[hexed ether]

3s

[limber relic]

ig SP is fine. not alot of pets

but hunt, dk, locks

[hexed ether]

this proc on ele sham

what im saying is this is damage you wouldnt have had otherwise at all

[limber relic]

and its 1ppm?

[hexed ether]

could be more or less depending on how many leggo dots you have out

[wheat jay]

Magic of rng

[limber relic]

looks like 2ppm

[limber relic]

na but i meant like it has to have an ICD

[hexed ether]

all my play testing its been many procs under a minute

[limber relic]

100000 dots and ud stil only get a certain amount

fair enough

then in that case it could be good

i thought 1-2ppm

u get 1 on pet 1 on idk, healer when ur on dps

its meh

[sharp meteor]

That seems like value seeing as it's "free".

[hexed ether]

lol

[sharp meteor]

Sort of like how surv could play the polearm from keys last seas and just get free multistrike.

[hexed ether]

the alternative to the ring is less damage lol

[limber relic]

i was talking about if the item had an ICD

also the cloak

idk what stat prio ppl have but most likely its gna be crit no?

ah nvm stil gives u the most stats

u have

[hexed ether]

the 535 ilvl and free stats is what makes it better

strength is still your best stat prio

i dont see an icd on diurnas chosen but it can proc alot or alittle but in the end its free damage you wouldnt have

this one is .95 ppm

and can crit

[limber relic]

HAHAH

[sharp meteor]

Dwagon.

[limber relic]

70%-0% in 1.6s

301k MS 180k OP tho

@hexed ether ig the ring is fine

[keen gazelle]

Does anyone else use Framesort to set up intervene macros?

I've been trying it lately and my party1 and party2 are reversed for some reason lol

Is there a better way to go about that ?

[hexed ether]

i started using @cursor for intervene because of that very reason

or mouseover

i mean

[bright kraken]

@fierce elm

[spice hornet]

why did they give assassination sudden demise

[severe skiff]

Just use dynamicmacro addon, changes the name in your macros to your healer and dps name for you

[keen gazelle]

I tried Dynamic Macros and it seemed a little weird also

My vene healer macro was the only one that would work for some reason

Ima try it again tho

Could I steal your macros ?

[severe skiff]

did your dps one have a modifier key in it?

[keen gazelle]

Yes!

I was using shift for @healer and alt for @DPS

[severe skiff]

/cast [nomod,@Cummunism]
/cast [@'.. D ..']Intervene```

is my DPS one, ignore the names in the [@] those dont matter

/cast [@Cummunism]Intervene```

is my healer one

the only issue with dynamic macros is if you use a multi line macro to say cast on one target, then another target with a mod

if that mod target isn't in range it for some reason it will default to a diff target

[keen gazelle]

ooooh okay that makes sense

[severe skiff]

which is why I use two diff macros

[urban skiff]

Should i be spending my conq on my rogue or holding it? top player is in full honor gear and the rest are in different states of having spent conq/strife/crafted

[normal sierra]

Is there a reason to hold it?

[fierce elm]

There is not

[normal sierra]

Didn’t think so unless you’re waiting to see vault rewards, but you also have bullion options 🤷🏻‍♂️

[urban skiff]

bullions for pvp?

I think i'm just looking for an excuse to hold until i know what spec to play

sub is fun for blitz

[normal sierra]

Yea. Like the Seals that are vers with shield proc/fire damage can be useful
Some weapons have similar vers to pvp weapon (or you can be lucky and have a 535 option)

[bright kraken]

how do i get bloody token

[wheat jay]

world quests

or open world kills

[lavish quest]

Loot the war crates. I haven't seen any world quests that give them recently, so the crates is probably the way this season

200 or so per warcrate

[bright kraken]

how

[lavish quest]

So... they spawn in zones... and then you go right click on them

[bright kraken]

hoiw often do they spawn

i've never seen them spawn evr

[lavish quest]

Just sit in a zone with war mode on till it spawns

Idk, probably on 30 mins or an hour

I usually have one spawn when I'm doing a zone world quest clear for sparks

The crates also give sparks btw

[rancid granite]

pvp dailies in every zone work too

[azure moss]

Hi friends , how important is being gnome for arms ?

[fierce elm]

not really

its nice to have

[dense herald]

Its situational

But ive had games where if i had that root removal i wouldve won

Got like rooted and healer went away low hp

[full quiver]

Gnome always been bis

Orc sheeple

[wheat jay]

shadowlands orc

vs sub rogue

must have XD

[full quiver]

Nah u could just hit d stance before stun and be fine

The good old days

S1 and s2

😂

Then season 3 came and you could preparry and still die to sin rogue go

Thanks blizz

[grand scaffold]

Sepsis

[azure moss]

Sepsis with crit leggo was fun times

[dense herald]

Stepsis

[dense herald]

I still die to rogue sometimes even if i parry at like 80% hp

They restun my trinket and just kill me thru

[fierce elm]

how lmao

[full quiver]

[grand scaffold]

bro rocking that 5% vers

[bright kraken]

what pvp enchant do we run?

also just bought these with my conquest, worthwhile?

[grand scaffold]

no way you decided to buy trinkets before anything else

[bright kraken]

idk what to buy

that's why i came here

lmao

[grand scaffold]

did you buy them?

[bright kraken]

i bought them but still refundable

what should i get instead

[grand scaffold]

literally

not trinkets

[bright kraken]

so gloves and belt you're saying?

[full quiver]

Literally anything

[grand scaffold]

im saying anything that is not a trinket

[full quiver]

Obviously tier slot

Weapon

Priorities

[grand scaffold]

indeed

[full quiver]

Not rocket science

[bright kraken]

i already got a weapon

[grand scaffold]

then the choice

is apparent

[bright kraken]

bro i dont mainly pvp i dont know shit about this

[full quiver]

It's the same in pve hello

WEAPONS TIER BIS

[grand scaffold]

idfk about pve

but you obviously want tier and weapon first

or crafted items

[bright kraken]

not for the class i main

already got weapon but my tier is shit to the point anything else would be better

i already have 2 set from catalyst + 1.6k token so i just bought chest and gloves

was that a bad idea?

[grand scaffold]

buying a trinket was a terrible idea

[grand scaffold]

what did you spend the token on

[bright kraken]

im aware

[full quiver]

I bet you aren't using thid macro either then

If you're new to pvp on war

[bright kraken]

tier shoulders

[grand scaffold]

☠️

[fierce elm]

sick trinket

[grand scaffold]

you bought the cheaper piece with a free token

[full quiver]

😂

[grand scaffold]

just so you know

you generally want to buy the most expensive piece with token

so that you spend less conquest

general rule of thumb

[bright kraken]

okay

[full quiver]

Did you play like 5k shuffle rounds last season

Hardly say you're new to pvp 😂😂

[fierce elm]

scoobz is a shaman main

rock your trinkets queen

[full quiver]

Ok ratpaladin

[fierce elm]

Chad dudes dont need gear

[grand scaffold]

none of us are playing warr primarily rn

😭

[full quiver]

Post s2 slands arms

Is trash

[grand scaffold]

i liked s1 arms of this season

[full quiver]

They ruined a perfect spec

[grand scaffold]

true

condemn

was peak design

condemn with 20% crit

a diff time

old ep

20/20 d stance

[full quiver]

Lolol

[lavish quest]

I am, I will not betray my kind

[bright kraken]

@lavish quest

[fiery ridge]

Warr still fun to play. I'm primarily playing 2's atm until my 3's partner can just roll Ret, but game is still fun imo.

[fierce elm]

ret is goated

[rancid granite]

ret is so god damn boring though

[fiery ridge]

Yeah he's insisting on playing spriest but it just doesn't work lol. Convinced him to roll ret last night and should be nice gaming once we gear him up a bit. Holy/arms/ret or pres/arms/ret

[lavish quest]

What are these for? Lol
You DJ'ing I'm between queues or somethin?

[wheat jay]

Kargo thinks so too now

Teach him how to do smg tho

Dmg

[marble crystal]

Okay so I’m a little confused on something and was wanting to see if I can get some clarification. For the PvP gear; Do you craft it into tier? And are we going full 4 piece? Is that better than crafted gear with embellishments etc? I noticed when you recraft the PvP into tier it doesn’t stack versatility. (sorry coming back after being a classic Andy and missing 5 or more years of retail)

[full quiver]

ARE YOU SURE RET IS GOOD

IM NOT SURE ITS THAT GOOD

@fierce elm

[violet fossil]

tier has set stats so whatever you convert will have those specific stats

You convert conquest gear to tier by going to the catalyst

[marble crystal]

Yeah I got 2 crafted so far. Just noticing the vers wasn’t there and giving haste and crit etc.

[violet fossil]

you’ll have enough verse from the other pieces

more than enough

[marble crystal]

So stay around 30% then go into mastery?

[violet fossil]

STAT PRIORITY FOR ARMS:
35-40% vers. 25-30% haste. Rest goes into mastery, crit is bad.

4 set is good:
legs, chest, hands, and shoulders are bis.

Crafted pieces: Infurious warboots of impunity, primal molten helm with blue silken lining, craft helmet with the stats that follow the stat priority above.

Early season trophy of strife weapon is better as you gear faster, you can eventually buy the conquest weapon after you get the rest of your gear.

From ndogo

also you can look at pins

[marble crystal]

Thanks

[violet fossil]

You’re welcome

[bright kraken]

@grand scaffold do we still prefer mastery to haste?

as in, we want 20%~~ haste right

or was it 25%

i forget tbh

[grand scaffold]

obtain that information

from literally reading 2 texts above

😂

sometimes i really wonder

[rancid granite]

warrior brains

[bright kraken]

na, hunter brain

you need like a total of 2 brain cells to play warrior

you need .5 to play hunter

[grand scaffold]

im ngl

hunter is harder than warr

have to actually cc people

and live

pet utility

landing traps

[wheat jay]

fuck pets

give me pet shit

withouth aving a dogshit pet

cringe shit

[rancid granite]

they have cat pets you know

[fierce elm]

mid

Ret needs a buff ngl

[dense herald]

Imagine not having fyralath

[cold summit]

do we use fyrakk axe in pvp?

[dense herald]

Idk

Its prob not that much better than conquest

Its higher ilvl and applies a dot

[cold summit]

yea

thats good

[thick reef]

Fyr'alath is BiS, but it's not much better

[fierce elm]

Its better

never use the activd

[dense herald]

Yea active is bad

But u get some extra dps from the dot(not much) but the real value comes from the incresed ilvl

7 more ilvls than conauest weapon

[cold summit]

my intervene macro doesnt work 😦

[fierce elm]

show it

[fierce elm]

/cast [@Shadowmaker] Intervene

[cold summit]

ok tysm

[fierce elm]

or this

#showtooltip
/cast [@Shadowmaker,exists,nodead,help] Intervene

both should work

[cold summit]

both dont work

[fierce elm]

what the fuck

Is the name correct?

[cold summit]

omg

I messed up kekw

[fierce elm]

k e k

[cold summit]

his name is shadomaker kekw

does this mean im capped or wha

[fierce elm]

The bar aint full

[cold summit]

there is a check

on the conquest

[fierce elm]

is your conq red in your character currency tab

[cold summit]

no

[wheat jay]

then get more

[fierce elm]

then get MORE

[dense herald]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[limber relic]

400k ms

ez

[fierce elm]

small

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1223649170007523500/1236063200693452800/image.png?ex=66374dcf&is=6635fc4f&hm=7ed028fba8499e449dfaf21054bb3c62b53f72dad4b5b903683e7f8fcb1ed699&

[grand scaffold]

wait till i figure out how kingsbane works

[dense herald]

How do u guys do these crits

With excecutioners percision and hurricane or?

[fickle forge]

Increase your bench press

Get higher crits

[dense herald]

True

[grand scaffold]

its fake news

shit dont be existing

[dense herald]

I did max 200k something crits last season

[grand scaffold]

thats about how much im doing this season

maybe 250

not fucking 400

[dense herald]

I hit a 200k mortal strike in s1

And im not even joking

[grand scaffold]

yeah same

i hit a lot of them

[dense herald]

Hurricane + 2 execute stacks

• spear b4 nerf

Was pumping

[obtuse musk]

arms...just started gearing this week...should i get weapon or is 2 set worth it?

hmm pin says gear before weapon

[grand scaffold]

✅

[lavish quest]

Ndogo is a rogue main now

[grand scaffold]

still warr main

but if i get glad on another class

warr is disappearing

[lavish quest]

So I'm still right lol

[grand scaffold]

not really

but one day if i get glad on another class warr wont be my mian

main

[rancid granite]

[lavish quest]

First 2s match of the season

Love to see that kind of details

[wheat jay]

Nice

Meanwhile I got back above 2300

And took a break

Tomorrow maybe elite

XD

[lavish quest]

I've done 2 shuffles, both were healer diffs where the good healer fucked up or got fucked on my side

Aka, one was DC'd on my side

And the other we were about to win but resto shaman's staple of using link AFTER, and only AFTER, people die

Basically a religion for them I think

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile I did a hard fucking carry tonight

Apparently lock that went 1-5 was a streamer

So I can check vod later xD

[simple rock]

remember when you could kinda win off cds in shadowlands

even as warr in 2s

[lavish quest]

You're famous now

[lavish quest]

To be fair, he lived CDs, just used everything so I killed him with normal damage after lol

[wheat jay]

Nice

[rancid granite]

is 1800 in solo shuffle good

https://tenor.com/view/baby-strong-flex-gif-8577829

[limber relic]

close enough

[bright kraken]

woulda been 6-0 if lock didnt los healer at the end

[fierce elm]

GAMING

[full quiver]

Nice!

[keen silo]

does warrior feel like it has no killing power or is it just me?

[bright kraken]

Arms support spec angle

[grand scaffold]

arms feels bad atm

b tier class

[sharp meteor]

It doesn't really have much in the ways of kill pressure, no.

[bright kraken]

But is it actually?

[grand scaffold]

yea

[fierce elm]

I mean its sitting at a solid 10/26 dps specs

Thats solid A/B tier

The other melee specs tends to play nicer with ranged partners

Havoc/assa/feral/ret just match with any caster

[grand scaffold]

dude

ret just flat out is tankier and out damages warrior

[fierce elm]

Yes

[grand scaffold]

same with dh

[fierce elm]

Because ret is better

so is DH lmao

[grand scaffold]

nobody in their right mind would pick a warrior over them

cant tell me an A tier spec

is arms

[fierce elm]

When you dont wanna minmax and become an AWC champ I would say it doesnt matter

[grand scaffold]

was warr played in awc

so far

[fierce elm]

especially when Warr has AWC representation lmao

Yeah

[grand scaffold]

how much?

i dont watch wow

[fierce elm]

Merce played warr every game iirc

I think warr rn has a higher AWC rep than Ret

I would place it in Low A tier tbh

[grand scaffold]

ofc merce gonna play it

its merce

smexxin plays aff any season regardless of how good it is

[fierce elm]

So its probs low A tier compared to every spec or high B tier

[grand scaffold]

high b i can agree with

a

no

last season warr was a

[fierce elm]

gotta stop coping coming off a season where warrior was objectively the best spec lmao

this isnt sl s3 where arms was legitimately a c tier spec

[grand scaffold]

warr was the besrt spec?

😂

assass was just as op

same with dh

[fierce elm]

I would say that warr was easily a top 3 dps spec last season yes

[grand scaffold]

nmo

no

top 5

[fierce elm]

looking at purely 3s

[grand scaffold]

you also have monk

thats represenation

not class strength

[fierce elm]

Where Arms was clearly dominating

You just gotta stop COPING man

[grand scaffold]

dont you play ret

fotm

[lunar sparrow]

hows arms rn in 3s? I ve started playing war last season and got 1800 in 2s very easily with a disc/resto - but not sure about 3s wanna try

[grand scaffold]

meh

playable

[fierce elm]

I was already considering ret before I resubbed lmao

[grand scaffold]

not amazing

[grand scaffold]

[fierce elm]

And swapped ret because I didnt wanna play woth Kargs shaman

nor force him into it

[grand scaffold]

lol

[lunar sparrow]

arent there quite a few war at 2400 by now?

[fierce elm]

He has been alting every season we played together and I wanted him to be free and play his main for once

lmao

[grand scaffold]

in ss

[fierce elm]

If I was fotm rerolling I woulda gone DH and forced him to play boomkin lmao

There are like 2 warriors at 2400+ rn in 3s @lunar sparrow

but I wouldnt look at it like that

[grand scaffold]

yeah

representation again

[fierce elm]

you are gonna be capable to hit any rating as warrior lmao

[grand scaffold]

does not mean a class is good or bad

[fierce elm]

HE ASKED MAN

[grand scaffold]

true also

[lunar sparrow]

xD

[fierce elm]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN LMAO

[lunar sparrow]

i m probs gonna alt DH anyway lel

but was curious so thanks for your replies

would love to push 2k in 3s if somehow possible - there s a chance for dh nerfs though i d imagine if they are as strong

[fierce elm]

It should be fine

Any spec can hit 2k with enough practice

All the better specs do is cover weaknesses in your gameplay anyways

But play well enough and that wont matter

[grand scaffold]

?

[fierce elm]

He asked

so I gave him da numbers

I was gonna play warrior this season as an alt but alas no new set compared to s2

s3*

[grand scaffold]

yeah

the missing 2 set

is boring

and 4 set

[fierce elm]

I would play if I could grab the old elite set

but sadge

DK looking kinda fun too

[grand scaffold]

ngl

dont play dk

if you like ret

[fierce elm]

I like most specs lmao

[grand scaffold]

rotation slow af

[fierce elm]

I would wanna be Unholy

[grand scaffold]

dk is a very cool class

but its not fun imo

[fierce elm]

Last DK experience was like MoP kek

Unholy just feels like such a sick class fantasy

[grand scaffold]

dk was strong in bfa

very strong

same with legion and wod

just sucked since sl

[dense herald]

Unholy was good last season

B4 nerfs

[rapid shore]

uh has good tier set this season?

[dense herald]

S2*

[grand scaffold]

thats not why its bad

its remarkably squishy

the damage is good

its just really squishy

[rapid shore]

Ye I know

[grand scaffold]

same tier as last season

[rapid shore]

Kk

[cold summit]

In pvp should we run double bladestorm or the recklessness talent?

[fallen estuary]

depends

[cold summit]

If its a rogue?

[fallen estuary]

if you got 4 set many warriors might be swapping to crit so if you have 4 set go reck

[cold summit]

Oh nvm

[fallen estuary]

but most are still stacking haste and mastery till 4 set so take bladestorm

[cold summit]

Kk tysm

[fierce elm]

grab bladestorm

[fickle forge]

Double bs

[rancid granite]

is it more dmg; or just usefulness in utility

[fickle forge]

Both

[cold summit]

I used cata and it gave me haste vers is there a way to make it vers mastery or I cant choose?

[fickle forge]

You can't

[grand scaffold]

holy shit

500 ilvl

418k chaos bolts

shit is fun

[wheat jay]

cant believe leland accused me of playing meta

when ndogo exists

[grand scaffold]

the diff is

i dont swap entirely

still playing warr the most

[wheat jay]

fair point

btw got 2400 😄

[grand scaffold]

and i also played fury to glad which is anti fotm

[grand scaffold]

congrats bro!

[wheat jay]

im a happy little survi now

2400 literally rank 8 survi

xD

[grand scaffold]

nice

as soon as teusday hits

and i get 4 set

bloodthirst 1 shot

is gonna go HARD

[wheat jay]

now im just gonna play 3s

fuck shuffle

xD

[lavish quest]

Ndogo hadn't done it yet.
Besides, for you it was more a recollection of history.

[wheat jay]

xd

for me?

i didn't start at 2.5k mmr

like some did

ndogo, seif etc started at like 2.4k or higher

[lavish quest]

I meant I just noted your DH history

[wheat jay]

it was dh tho

and i ended season on like 2050 dh

even lower survi

mmr is not for account my guy 😄

[lavish quest]

I'm not talking about

That

[lavish quest]

Only this lol

[wheat jay]

oh

fuck you 😄

well

dh was fun

[lavish quest]

I'm just a historian really

Surv obviously S tier if you got 2400

😉

Don't let Vesa know

[wheat jay]

i wish lmao

[vital quarry]

Hello! Is Beserker's r torment working with Enduring rage for fury?

[lavish quest]

Only the fury mains like Ndogo or Mud can help you there

[vital quarry]

alright! thanks anyway

[fierce elm]

@grand scaffold

answer this man

[bright kraken]

2-2, and then healer afks with me for 2 rounds

fml

dogshit design

[grand scaffold]

yo

i gotta check talents i forgot enduring rage

[vital quarry]

oh! sure!

[grand scaffold]

ngl i dont know

i can test

but i havent played those 2 talents at the same time before

[vital quarry]

would be pretty poggers if they did

[grand scaffold]

i highly doubt it

just saying

[vital quarry]

haha ye me2. since i never seen anyone run it

[grand scaffold]

yea

[cold summit]

how do I know who to go for in a 2v2?

[grand scaffold]

you pretty much always go dps

and just swap healers on defensives

[cold summit]

oh I been going healer

[grand scaffold]

against other melee

you can go their healer

[grand scaffold]

ah

well that should sort you out

🙂

[cold summit]

kk tysm

i'll blast the dps

[grand scaffold]

np

good job

[grand scaffold]

just make sure against other warriors

you go their healer

[grand scaffold]

are you on na?

[vital quarry]

no Eu sadly

[grand scaffold]

fuck

i mean im just thinking about that talent swap

if you get disarmed

you get 0 value

idt it would be the move

[vital quarry]

Yea it would also get you out of snares if it procced

[grand scaffold]

i suppose

you could always try irt

it

i just dont have a way to recreate it

but my thinking is

its not gonna owkr

bcause it would also work with unbridled ferocity

and everybody would run it

[vital quarry]

oh yea thats true.

[cold summit]

I always losing wth

[grand scaffold]

warrior is not a 2s class

in current meta

[cold summit]

:((

im gonna get my pala up soon

[grand scaffold]

try 3s or shuffle man

warr is way better at those

less counter comps

still exist just less

[vital quarry]

I go a bg and let you know

[cold summit]

shuffle is too long wait

[grand scaffold]

its like 5 min rn

[cold summit]

ah i'll try it out after this healer leaves

[fierce elm]

or just man up and win lmao

[cold summit]

I just need conquest to join a rbg group

[cold summit]

I wish

[grand scaffold]

2s is prob best for farming conquest early

send your talent build

[cold summit]

should I send vids too?

[grand scaffold]

that usually helps the most

crushing force is trash

get leeching strikes

i think ep is worse than eb

probably swap that around

rest is ok

can play fatality instead of improved execute if you want

[cold summit]

whats ep and eb

[vital quarry]

Just tested in a bg, they don't work

[grand scaffold]

yeah i didnt think so

[grand scaffold]

executioners precision exhilerating blows

[cold summit]

bruh my video file is too big

oh nvm

I upload to yt

[cold summit]

I upload it to the pvp gameplay review right?

[bright kraken]

what's with hunters deciding to use turtle with my enemies and not me

[lavish quest]

I'd say it's because they can tell you're a furry... but they do it to me too so that can't be it

I'm still stuck on rshams using link after people die

[wheat jay]

better than devoker moving me out of link

[lavish quest]

Worse than prevoker moving 2ft just out of range of rounding winning execute in deep damp so we lose

Burn the scaleys

[bright kraken]

ele balance aff

on mugambala

too soon

[wheat jay]

not bad

could have been frost mage instead of ele

[lavish quest]

On the bright side, they're 1800-1900 casters so they're bad at it

[bright kraken]

yeah, but my healers still arent letting me play aggro

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-skill-issue-trick-gif-26399494

[lavish quest]

Skill issue of diplomacy

[bright kraken]

sigh

[fickle forge]

Game is deadge

[rugged temple]

currently been waiting 21mins in que for solo shuffle what's wrong with this game

[fickle forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897159713903501362/1236689817736056886/image.png?ex=6638eca5&is=66379b25&hm=74356dbe510c53e8436888d7f7da6a67fe3c342a4c3f95d7a38eb218e9ba41dd&

@lavish quest

[lavish quest]

Oh yeah, I've been following it a bit

Bit proud of it tbh

Shame tho, Arrowhead doing pretty well and Sony just shits all over it

[lavish quest]

Look at the bright side, the lower you go, the easier your opponents become and more likely you are to fly up

[fickle forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VERiUwowGI0

[rare oak]

lmao its everywhere.

[lavish quest]

Yeah...
Back to fortnite gaming

[fickle forge]

Yeah about 160k people went out of their way to make a negative reply

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1122601539463299153/1236693672431714446/image.png?ex=6638f03c&is=66379ebc&hm=fbb39fc9b3100c807b98bfa2d41dc9dffafe131c64bf027dcaae9ffe793fa576&

[wheat jay]

Arrowhead CEO gotta be absolutely fucking MAD at Sony

[fickle forge]

Yeah I mean he made something out of pure gold

And it got completely tarnished

[lavish quest]

I'm tempted to join in on the reviews

[violet fossil]

Fucking Sony man

Microsoft just needs to buy them out too

[wheat jay]

I doubt ill play it until they fix it

Not cuz im affected by it

But just because its ass

[violet fossil]

I have a ps5 but that’s

Total ass

[fickle forge]

Yah it's protest

I can play the game just fine

But Imma stand against it too

Sony gets their shit breached annually

[scarlet barn]

and HD2 discord is in meltdown for few days now lol

Community managers throwing extra oil into fire

[fickle forge]

Oh no man

It's so joever

Why are they defending this shit

It's not even about the effort to make the account

[violet fossil]

lame

not even the point fr

[fickle forge]

Rejecting this doesn't mean you're lazy, it means you got principles

[fierce elm]

Your voice wont be heard through discord anyways lmao

[violet fossil]

cause then they can say you don’t actually own the game “Ubisoft”

[scarlet barn]

They going ham

[rancid granite]

takes 2 seconds to make a psn account

meanwhile:

[fickle forge]

Holy shit man this dude's fire

[thick reef]

there was a warlock and you didn't just immediately shit in his cornflakes?

[thick reef]

It's not just Sony, Arrowhead was very much on board with the banning tools

[lavish quest]

Their community managers have been flipping back and forth so much they don't know what's going on. That's just the story they were told to go with I'm sure. This is an order from on high, lez be real.

Why would Sony be so concerned with it as a banning tool? That's the dev's issue, not theirs. Yet Sony is the one pushing it.

🤔