pvp

[fierce elm]

nor am I trusting any PTR testing

[wheat jay]

true

[fierce elm]

I trust when someone logs in on their main character on the live servers and look at conq vendor

[bright kraken]

Elaborate

[wheat jay]

What sanity?

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/no-letterkenny-gif-19047328

[bright kraken]

no no, what do you mean by sanity

[wheat jay]

See, what sanity?

[wheat jay]

Anyway, im forsaking mine next season

Gotta get glad

[fickle forge]

Ditching Artji at 27/50 wins

[fierce elm]

this is the way

[lavish quest]

So you're going back to DH huh?

Knew you a DH main

[urban skiff]

Looks like we can have 4set from first day of second week with luck

[lavish quest]

So I can't? Cool

[violet fossil]

Can’t believe they didn’t have a different tint for elite set lol

[fierce elm]

Cant believe vendors arent live and nobody can check for real

[wheat jay]

Nah

Kfc/php

[fierce elm]

wtf dont bring me into this

[wheat jay]

Like it or not, I'm your best comp

[lavish quest]

Does Afro really wanna play with a recovering FOTM player?

[fierce elm]

idk man

[wheat jay]

I bring him wins

He likes wins

I bring everyone wins

Except you leland

You're na and it's disgusting

You should work more on that

[lavish quest]

I'm NA, we love winning

I'd say we're winning on obesity, but pretty sure another country is winning that right now...

[wheat jay]

Youre also prerty competitive at gun violence

Youre basically a 3rd world country in a 10k suit

[lavish quest]

We're winning where it matters

[wheat jay]

Where glad then

[violet fossil]

🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅

[lavish quest]

I don't 3s

[fierce elm]

yeah 3s is lowkey butt

[lavish quest]

Finding nerds is rough and staring at LFG for 3 hours just ain't it boss

So instead I just queue solo shuffle so I can see resto shamans constantly trying to use spirit link as a combat rez

[fierce elm]

lmao

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

imagine being NA

how can you not find people for 3s

join pala discord, find a ret

join monk discord, find a MW

[lavish quest]

I don't have to imagine. I am born to spread managed democracy.

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[fierce elm]

you could be EU

and play with the best ret in the world

[lavish quest]

You could come to NA and enjoy:
Oversized meals
Our favorite pass time, school shootings
And liber-tea

[violet fossil]

bbq

[fiery bone]

What is liber-tea?

[mild quartz]

Sauce

[fiery bone]

I am from NA (Canada) and never heard of this

I’m from Canada, they think I’m slow eh

[half badger]

Hey lads are arms warriors still using the same stats as season 3?

[bright kraken]

Come to Australia
Be paid 550k monthly because we're all paid actors

[fickle forge]

Just be a Chad Scandinavian and live at the peak of life

[fierce elm]

denmark doesnt count

[wheat jay]

denmark isnt scandinavian

its

just scuffed

its like canada in is still north america but we don't rly say its NA

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[lavish quest]

550k in monopoly money?

[rancid granite]

i'm askin the same thing

updated icyveins guide and such still say haste=mastery and crit is low value

but tier set is +crit stuff

so >_>?

[fallen estuary]

Easy, crit haste lol

[fierce elm]

I would never fully go crit

I reckon our stat allocation remains the same

[rancid granite]

i guess crit from set piece means more room to go haste/mastery then

that makes sense too

[fickle forge]

And I still believe so, so do it

[violet fossil]

cause crit nerfed in PvP is why

The set is booty

Cheeks

[lavish quest]

War will be double F tier now

[rancid granite]

TIL ok cool

also the players voted on it so it must be good

[fierce elm]

For pve lmao

[violet fossil]

for pve

like a majority were pve players lol

[rancid granite]

ok i thought set bonuses were different pve / pvp

i'm learning here, thanks, but shit

[grand scaffold]

i think arms is down with sub rogues now

rest looks fine imo

cant stay in the same tier with an objectively booty tier set

[violet fossil]

dh still up there

and they all still whine

[fierce elm]

I woudlnt place arms with enhance lmmao

[thick reef]

Fuck, am I really going to play purple class this season?

Do I really want to do that to myself

[fierce elm]

yeah fomo reroll

[thick reef]

You right, should just get Glad on Prot

[spice hornet]

I always found warrior to the most boring shuff spec

[thick reef]

Warlock class icon pfp

[spice hornet]

i am a warr main btw

[thick reef]

DONT YOU FUCKING HIDE THE TRUTH

[spice hornet]

swear

[rancid granite]

is this why everyone has the backup ret paladin

[thick reef]

I will reflect all of your fucking Chaos Bolts

[spice hornet]

very unenjoyable shuffle class. specially fury

dont know how people unironically main furry

[rancid granite]

can any other class dual wield two big ass weapons

[wheat jay]

Fuck no

[grand scaffold]

explain

our tier set is dooky

[wheat jay]

you lose almost nothing

your set wasnt some top tier shit now either

lets be real

[grand scaffold]

yes it was

it added 20-40k on each execute

helped bleed maintenance

many more execute procs

idk what youre on

[wheat jay]

and now you're getting more ms damage iirc

[grand scaffold]

bleh

[wheat jay]

which is your top damage ability

[grand scaffold]

bleh

[wheat jay]

you still keep everyhing else

[grand scaffold]

bleh

[wheat jay]

just becasue you don't like doesn't mean its not good

it still is

[grand scaffold]

no

[rancid granite]

just be a better player and you'll be fine

[grand scaffold]

🤨

arms gonna decrease to 10

[fierce elm]

its the main ret paladin now

[rancid granite]

[gaunt dune]

Guys I have a question, our set now sucks right?

[fierce elm]

Its not the greatest no

[gaunt dune]

Damn XD, I suspected it

At least it's good for pve?

[fierce elm]

Yeah irs better in pve

[violet fossil]

supposedly

That’s what pvers chose

[gaunt dune]

One of Blizzard's best ideas

[wary delta]

kratos spec

[urban skiff]

ez just equip shield and relive dream of gladiator

[urban skiff]

fury is aug tier

[grand scaffold]

Top G behavior

they fucking pushed back maintenance by 1 hr

😢

[violet fossil]

Damn I was fixing to logon

To see how gay everything is

[grand scaffold]

😦

was gonna insta gear dh

FUCK

MY POWER JUST DIPPED

😭

[lavish quest]

Did you just say maining furry is top G behavior?
You trying to say @bright kraken is a top G?

[grand scaffold]

no

the lock guy meant fury

furry is just nah

[lavish quest]

Or did he...?

[grand scaffold]

probably

[violet fossil]

I think he meant enhance

[fierce elm]

get fucked

[grand scaffold]

bruh

[grand scaffold]

😦

[fierce elm]

someone check vendors when its up

[grand scaffold]

?

[fierce elm]

so we can feel dissappointment in blizzard

about not getting the same tier set as pve

[grand scaffold]

we need to steal trophies if we can

[violet fossil]

not the same tier set?

[fierce elm]

Looks

if we get the s3 look again

or not

[violet fossil]

Oh

assuming we are

[fierce elm]

since its not been confirmed or denied by blizzard lmao

[violet fossil]

they forgot about PvP

[lavish quest]

Afro is just delusional, ignore him

[violet fossil]

How they gonna push back maintenance if nothings really being added

[grand scaffold]

poor work ethic

avg blizzard behavior

[violet fossil]

Lol

[grand scaffold]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1WIZiOuNO3woKfdlSK2gNn?si=b43d51e63b024958

this song goes so hard

[fierce elm]

dont be ROOOD

[grand scaffold]

blizz consistantly rude to warriors

😦

[merry pelican]

jo cant demonic tyrant be feared anymore?

[sharp meteor]

It can be, just important to remember that fear has a target cap

[merry pelican]

ahhhh yeah, that prolly was it^^ so i just target tyrant next time

[rancid granite]

/cast ignore pain

[vapid tartan]

Infurious boots first craft as usual?

[urban skiff]

only if you like a crapton of strength during your burst window

[rancid granite]

here's a newbie question for you all: it's stated even humans want the medallion trinket

but i thought humans have the racial so they can use a better dps trinket

and the medallion is same cooldown; so that means the human racial is basically wasted?

[fierce elm]

You dont always need medallion trinket so sometimes its better to go double dps trinket

Its matchup dependant generally

Human also get more secondary stats which is also huge

[rancid granite]

yeah but humans get the same racial

is it just because it's slightly longer cd?

[fierce elm]

Yes

[rancid granite]

well thats some shit

[fierce elm]

So it depends on what you are facing and how valuable medallion is to you

[lavish quest]

Human racial is only stuns

Can't trinket anything else with it

[rancid granite]

i'm not sure what else there is

ie cyclone/poly can't human racial but you can trinket?

[fierce elm]

yes

[rancid granite]

hmm. getting a lot of questions answered here; thanks

[fickle forge]

Human only cleanses stuns

[rancid granite]

😔

[fiery aurora]

It used to be a all-around pvp trinket but it got changed

A while back

[fierce elm]

But you are human so transmog doesnt clip regardless

[fiery aurora]

Honestly, I would like to see racials go in both pve and pvp, its getting dumb

[fierce elm]

why

Outside of the three outliers

its fine lmao

[fiery aurora]

Im fine with nerfing said outliers too

[fierce elm]

Thats fair

[rancid granite]

nerfed and longer cooldown 😭

[fierce elm]

Human just has massive popularity despite everything, maybe nerf secondary stat gains

Orc is just stun resist

Gnome is just the root active

[fiery aurora]

Human losing diplomacy too, thats an ouch haha

[fierce elm]

Diplomacy is being changed which is HUGE

Being forced to be a human to rep farm sucks

[rancid granite]

im all about RPvP; look good feel good play good

min maxing seems awful

[fierce elm]

I mean racials doesnt matter as much unless you get to very high rating lmao

[fiery aurora]

Exactly why I would love to choose a class because I like how it looks and not because it has +1% crit chance, a stun, cc break or whatever

race*

But I agree that the real problem is with the outliers and not with the ones with 3% representation

combined

anyways, do we really go for the lowest amount of possible crit for another season?

[fierce elm]

So pick what you like lmao

Yeah probably

I doubt crit will gain traction

[fickle forge]

The only broken race right now is nelf anyway

[fierce elm]

yeah rogues I get that they complain

because nelf is just so good lmao

[fickle forge]

Even for non-rogue

Healers want nelf so they have another CC dodge

[fierce elm]

yeah but its so clear in Rogue

[fickle forge]

Yeah

It's straight mandatory for rogue

[fierce elm]

real healers play highmountain tauren

[wheat jay]

soon dracthyr 😄

for two more interrupts basically

imagine you connect to arcane mage

SIKE

knockback

SIKE

knockup

oh my

[fierce elm]

PvP is dead

Blizzard doesnt care

get me out

I am giving up on #pvp you can find me in #arms now

[rancid granite]

cya

[fierce elm]

Its actually the same fucking appearance as s3

I cant fucking BELIEVE IT

[rancid granite]

can't wait til servers back up so i can pvp and have fun

[rancid granite]

cya

[fierce elm]

they are up

wdym lmao

[rancid granite]

oh nice

[fierce elm]

I cant believe its the same set

when PvE gets the set we votedo n

[wheat jay]

rly?

xD

[fierce elm]

yes

[wheat jay]

that's so wack lmao

pvp sidelined again

sadga

[fierce elm]

Its the same elite weapons too

I cant believe it lmao

[wheat jay]

weaps i understand

but ppl literally voted xD

[fierce elm]

I cant fucking believe it

[rancid granite]

do WoW players just pvp for mogs

what about just to win and flex who is best

[fierce elm]

I mean, its part of the rewards you get

And its fun to get rewarded for rating

Now everyone who hit 1800 in S3 wont get anything for 1800 in s4 lmao

the only difference is glad mount, enchant and tabard

[rancid granite]

they get to say they're 1800+ right

[wheat jay]

yes

[fierce elm]

Maybe I like being rewarded with cool transmog lmao

[rancid granite]

the reward in getting better is getting better right

[fierce elm]

Hell no

The reward is the things you get

[wheat jay]

who gives a fuck about that

its a game

i want my reward

i want my blue ass fucking dragon

i dont give a shit if im good or bad

[rancid granite]

but thats pvp

[wheat jay]

yes

[rancid granite]

idk

[wheat jay]

i get shit

[rancid granite]

yall wild

[wheat jay]

for winning

[rancid granite]

😛

[wheat jay]

thus i win

[rancid granite]

you win the rating bro

[wheat jay]

yes

rating gives me dragon

which is all that matters

[rancid granite]

thats pve mentality

https://tenor.com/view/conan-conan-the-barbarian-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-11092867

[fierce elm]

Win the rating

[wheat jay]

im not a degenerate to go for r1 like an idiot to get an e-boner for it

[fierce elm]

I want my sick rewards

[wheat jay]

cuz i get nothing from it

[fierce elm]

for putting in effort

[wheat jay]

^

[rancid granite]

winning is winning bro

you think conan wanted to win for a cooler headband?

[fierce elm]

I would never push glad if it didnt have the mount I wanted lmao

[wheat jay]

i believe he wanted to win to fuck bitches and eat food

sooooooooo ye

rewards matter

[rancid granite]

yeah show me the bitches and food rewards here

and not a dragon

what're you, donkey?

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-love-loveyou-hug-dragon-gif-5887794

[wheat jay]

you wanted to make a conan comparison

you got conan answer

conan got bitches

i get mount and mog

that's what pvp is about

[rancid granite]

yeah the dragon mount

[wheat jay]

its all about reward

[rancid granite]

like donkey

[wheat jay]

yes

[rancid granite]

^ you

[wheat jay]

now what are you playing pvp for?

[fierce elm]

"PvP is dying so lets not give them new rewards"

[rancid granite]

i pvp to pvp

i just wanna beat the person im pvping against

i like to win bro

[wheat jay]

ok

good for you

[fallen estuary]

Keel em

[wheat jay]

i want my shit for wins

im not so pitiful as to pvp for the sake of it and playing 5k games for fun

i want to chill with homies and get rewards

[rancid granite]

it sounds more pitiful to pvp for some weird reward like donkey from shrek

than to just have fun pvping

cause its pvp

[fierce elm]

I can have both

We have the technology

we have the ability

[rancid granite]

lmao

[fierce elm]

to give both

[wheat jay]

i q with homies

[fierce elm]

Its right in front of them

[wheat jay]

i win

i get rewards

two birds with one stone

[rancid granite]

we have the technology but we dont have the ability apparently 😛

[wheat jay]

maybe you don't 😄

[rancid granite]

blizz said no thats how this started

[fierce elm]

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS

[rancid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/feliz-alegre-sorriso-burro-gif-14645687

[quaint comet]

hello zuggers, my crayon eating friend wants to know what stats to go on honor gear thanks

[fierce elm]

Vers mast

cant go vers mast go vers haste

[quaint comet]

thanks

apperciate you

[hollow mist]

Is it just me or are the 2400 Elite Weapon Appearances exactly the same?

[wheat jay]

why would they be different

[fierce elm]

its exactly the same

everything is the same except enchant, tabard and glad mount

[limber relic]

is it even worth it picking up 4set for arms now?

[hollow mist]

Got it thanks man

[fierce elm]

what does this even mean

[limber relic]

4% dmg increase if u crit

will u even crit

[fierce elm]

I mean baseline crit is what, 10%?

So you have a 10% chance to get a 4% damage increase

[limber relic]

so all in all u get on avg 0.4% dmg icrease

but

u get shit secondary stats

[fierce elm]

while you also get 8% extra crit

While also geting 8% extra damage on Mortal strike

[limber relic]

thats 2set tho

[fierce elm]

why is it so dumb worded lmao

[wheat jay]

its 50% nerfed man

all sets are

[limber relic]

50% nerfed in pvp tho

[fierce elm]

yeah

[wheat jay]

its 4% crit chance and crit dmg

[limber relic]

so 7.5% dmg and crit on 2set

[wheat jay]

i'd say its pretty good to have 4set

[limber relic]

and 4% on 4set IF U CRIT

[fierce elm]

11.5 on 4 set

[wheat jay]

there's higher chance to crit tho

that's the important part

4% crit for free basically

[fierce elm]

I mean we can just look back at what warriors ran in s2

[wheat jay]

s1

[fierce elm]

yeah

considering we have already had this set

[limber relic]

isint it more worth to just get idk like 23% crit?

[fierce elm]

I wouldnt personally prio crit but who knows

[limber relic]

wouldnt be far off i think

[fierce elm]

Im pretty sure if you grab one crit ring

[limber relic]

23% crit baseline + 7.5% from 2set

[fierce elm]

Like get a mast/crit crafted ring

you are sitting pretty good

[limber relic]

• warlords torment

20%

[fierce elm]

I think thats fair

Would in an ideal world mean that 1/5 times you have increased damage

[violet obsidian]

Would the new honor gear axe at item level 515 be better if I have the legendary axe at 496 now?

[fierce elm]

thats not that bad

[limber relic]

30*

[fierce elm]

As for now yes @violet obsidian

[limber relic]

1/4

[fierce elm]

so approx 1/4 chance

[violet obsidian]

ty!

[fierce elm]

that seemsworthwhile

You get the upgraded axe next week

This set is clearly a nerf to arms

compared to s3 in pvp

[limber relic]

idk

some ppl seem happy wioth it

[wheat jay]

another reason to php

[fierce elm]

Its a buff in PvE

[wheat jay]

cuz its pure % dmg up

[limber relic]

yeah

[fierce elm]

Sets for S4 are the same as S3 in looks, same with the elite weapons. The only difference in rewards is the tabard, enchant, gladiator mount and rank 1 titles.

@knotty atlas can we get a pin big man

[fierce elm]

thanks G

[knotty atlas]

I gotchu.

[fierce elm]

could also pin this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMkqh-lZaQ

for the start of season

@knotty atlas double tag because I assume you arent looking here kek

Gonna see when Magnus releases his guide and we can pin that too

[knotty atlas]

Make a list

Post them together

[fierce elm]

Yeah its gonna be a while before he releases his guide though

same with the other top tier warriors

The only updated guide so far is Kargish guide

[fierce elm]

@bright kraken Good news FELLA, its the same elite weapon in s4

[wheat jay]

And now you start from day 1

In a possibly longer season than s3

[lavish quest]

The next chapter in the diary begins

[wheat jay]

Dear diary, today we're going back to page 1

Ngl I hope for the biggest possible rating inflation

Also

Did NA get bugged mmr day 1 like always?

[near delta]

It'd be such an easy way to get people playing again

Which means they aren't gonna do it probably

[wheat jay]

Lmao true

[near delta]

Literally change a couple numbers in a database and make more money. Blizz: nah cba

[bright kraken]

Difference

I don't have to learn how to play arms this time

[fierce elm]

Difference, Arms is worse this time

[lavish quest]

^

[fickle forge]

So basically no reason for me to go elite in shuffle

Halleluja

[fierce elm]

yep lmao

[lavish quest]

But... this season's tabard is ass and I have red sward so I'm big chillin

[fierce elm]

Its only 3s now big man

Glad mount

looks fucking cracked

[fickle forge]

I'm spreading managed democracy now brother

[fierce elm]

Yeah

but tomorrow

its time

[lavish quest]

[fierce elm]

Literally gonna get up at reset time

and start GAMING

Spark, bloody tokens or w.e

If you have Whispers of Dreaming

from chests

DO NOT open today

leave them till tomorrow

[fickle forge]

And by week 5 I'll still be behind on gear

[fierce elm]

The Whispers of Dreaming give you flightstones for next season if you open during it

so just dont open them rn

[near delta]

Wasn't s1 tier better tho?

[fierce elm]

Crit and Crit damage

huge doo doo

[fickle forge]

Nah

Crit was good in S1

Crit bad now

[near delta]

Oh fuck I forgot about the whole crit change yeah lol

Also sudden death reapplying rend was nice qol

[fickle forge]

The loss of SD procs as well

[near delta]

Yeah that thing was like a disco ball with thunderclap on demo minions lol

[bright kraken]

How much and how come?

[fierce elm]

Worse tier

[bright kraken]

What makes it worse

[fierce elm]

Reliant on crit

crit is nerfed in pvp

Our o´ther tier was pretty Quality of life heavy

[bright kraken]

How much worse are we

[fierce elm]

Not by an extreme amount lmao

I just wanted you to worry a bit

[bright kraken]

Fuck you

[fierce elm]

: )

[prime solar]

Do you put rend on your bars for arms?

[fierce elm]

Not if you run Thunderclap rend

[prime solar]

Oh true. thank you.

Just ditched DK learning war fresh.

[violet fossil]

Kekw

[bold grove]

Are we getting new Elite PvP tints for Season 4? Stuck in EU so can't check.

Haven't seen anything about it though.

[fierce elm]

nope

its the same

[austere pewter]

Is this the part where I admit that I spent the weekend leveling a warrior for that S2 1800 set

[fierce elm]

lmao

a lot of people did

[austere pewter]

I got back into WoW with 10.3 and managed to snag the DK set, after they nerfed UH a few times.
Was just really hoping to get that silly Power Ranger warrior set before MoP Remix.
🤷

[vagrant thistle]

anyone FW the Cosmic Diarrhea pvp illusion??

[limber relic]

whats conq cap at when sn start?

[violet fossil]

1300 something

Err

I think it’s 1100 something

[rancid granite]

dats enough for 2h right

💪

[wheat jay]

No

[limber relic]

1350*

[violet fossil]

Somewhere around there

[calm rover]

obviously could be off, but I feel like getting some crit will be good

[limber relic]

crit could be good but doubt itll be useful til 4set

[calm rover]

that's what I'm thinking

i stacked haste/mast for honor gear, but I'm hesitant when getting conq

[wet pollen]

Is the PvP set bonuses this season same as last?

[calm rover]

no

[fallen estuary]

omg it feels like home to go back to season 1 build

spear just doin my lobbies nasty like auuugh

[fiery bone]

My brothers. What stats are we going for as arms with s1 tier? I didn’t warrior then.

Until 4 set that is

[fickle sage]

i thought it was season 2 set that won

[mild pier]

Did not realize the s3 elite set would still be available in s4

[fallen estuary]

mentlegen

[fickle sage]

Wait so which elite set do you get in season 4?

nvm its the same set as season 3

[spice hornet]

feels more dampy huh

[fallen estuary]

Which is great

Now dhs fear the clock

[urban skiff]

Which tier pieces are best for arms this season?

I wanna say the hat is garbo?

[grand scaffold]

probably crit gains value

it was 5% dmg loss last season

i think mastery loses out this season

thats just me tho

[urban skiff]

Last time i truly enjoyed arms, crit was good

I'm going to give arms a try this season and just dick around

[grand scaffold]

s1 arms was fun af

s1 fury was fun af

s2 they fell off

[urban skiff]

which season is this set?

tbh i need another fat load

[grand scaffold]

so

you drop ep

and get eb

unhinged probably gains value

[urban skiff]

last time i was arms condemn was a borrowed power

[grand scaffold]

thats what im gonna be playing

[urban skiff]

do you have a basic build i can use as template / foundation?

[grand scaffold]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAPBVVUVQEQVQQpFRRBQOVVFRURUJVCRVAQCRA

somebody should pin that

[calm rover]

is there a world pvp weekly quest?

[urban skiff]

yes

there are several

[urban skiff]

why are we still using thunderclap? is it just for the rend thing?

[grand scaffold]

yes

[bright kraken]

I think I'll take a pause on PvP outside of vault for about a fortnight tbh

@sharp meteor @lavish quest that sound good?

Need to get back into Vault >w>

[sleek wave]

arms still better than fury right now right?

[grand scaffold]

yes

[sleek wave]

ayt bet damn we didnt get vault split yet

[raw summit]

Idk man i just cant play without fatal in shuffle

Feels jank without

But that can be a symptom of bad pressure idk lmao

[grand scaffold]

fatality is ass ngl

least favorite talent

sks better to me

[raw summit]

I mean it's a horribly designed shit fest

But crit exec for 200 + 150k fatal or whatever has been good for me

[grand scaffold]

fatality does not go for more than 80k

at 5 stacks

[raw summit]

I play hurricane so it amps it

[grand scaffold]

so do i

[raw summit]

But as i said, i am a tad biased there and willing to try playing without it

Just that i dont see the 1 point in bloodborne offer similar value ending games

[violet fossil]

whats sks

[grand scaffold]

skull splitter

[sleek wave]

i monkey i hate sks i play retail wow cause less buttons lol

but is the dps good? with sks?

[rare oak]

Hey folks, has the stat prio changed for arms?

[radiant oasis]

What elite appearance do we get this season?

[fallen estuary]

Same as s3 lololol

[bright kraken]

i dont pvp much at all

also me

they haven't converted to gold sells yet

[fierce elm]

they have

open one

you get a 200g grey item

[bright kraken]

ah

thought the box would become a grey

[rare oak]

What order do you buy conq gear as warrior? Save for weapon first or?

[radiant oasis]

Can any s1-2 elite appearances be purchased ?

[fierce elm]

nop

[fierce elm]

Im going Strife weapon personally

its a 3 ilvl difference but I dont need to spend 1800 conq on it

[rare oak]

So strife weapon, what about the 1350 conq we start with?

[fierce elm]

So this week you are able to get 2 set + crafted boots + crafted legs/chest/head

Im just rushing tier set

So you need to get 2 tier pieces from vendor or vault

if you get lucky you get 4 set next week

[rare oak]

Oh btw

[fierce elm]

But yeah, 2 set this week + crafted boots + crafted legs/chest/head

and get strife weapon next week

[rare oak]

My friend just used the catalyst and apparently it turned their pvp gear into lower item level pve gear?

[fierce elm]

that shouldnt be the case lmao

[rare oak]

Thats apparently what it turned into

[fierce elm]

destroyed

[rare oak]

Maybe a bug?

[fierce elm]

probably

[rare oak]

So what order do you go in then in terms of acquiring gear? The crafted first or?

[fierce elm]

Go into Epic BGs with the quest

finish that

Craft Embellis Boots

Buy a tier piece from vendor whos stat you want when you turn it into tier

get 1600 for a free tier piece

then craft legs/chest/head one of those

Depending on the stats of your tier piece on that

For example: your legs blows chunks in secondary stats

so can craft legs there

and get 4 tier from Hands+chest+shoulders+head

[rare oak]

I'm uncertain what stats is best to go for right now. I heard vaguely that haste increased in value?

[fierce elm]

Haste/mast still probably

Crit seems ass

[lavish quest]

Or just do it but stay chill lol

[wheat jay]

Just get vault and chill

First month id say there's near zero chance of 2400

[severe skiff]

You only get one spark for crafting this week no?

[fierce elm]

they can drop randomly frm dungeons

either case you just craft whichever piece next week

[wheat jay]

If youre behind iirc

So you can't farm them

[fierce elm]

yeah

so craft next week then lmao

[wheat jay]

Yep

Not sure if it was one a week or two weeks

Cuz you only get one fragment a week, might have been changed tho

[fierce elm]

I got two this week

one random drop

and one from the weekly thing

[wheat jay]

Ye thats always at the start of season

So next week should be fragment a week

But we'll see

[fierce elm]

Yeah

For Paladin we are going purchase head this week

chst this week*

head next week

then craft shoulders

use token on legs

I just wanna dump all this fucking vers somewhere

[wheat jay]

I have no idea what to build

I'll just go full mastery

And pray for crits

[fierce elm]

Everything si so fucking tanky lmao

im huge

[balmy compass]

especially boomkins

[fiery bone]

We sending a combination of mastery and haste honor gear until tier?

[fierce elm]

most likely yeah

Crit without tier feels like ass

[fiery bone]

Any idea what non-tier item we craft? Shoulders and helm for now with the two items we get for winning arena?

[fierce elm]

I would craft legs tbh

get shoulders + gloves first probably

or shoulders + helmet

[raw summit]

Tier legs have stinky crit

[raw summit]

No temporary crafted helm?

I mean ig ur making boots first and by the time 2nd spark comes u have 4p

[fierce elm]

yeah

you are making boots first

[elfin surge]

i think im making boots first then helm for now

buying shoulders and converting to tier

using tier token on chest

[fierce elm]

coudlnt be me

But by the point you can craft temporary helmet you are just gonna have 4 tier anyways

and youd probs rather take the helmet stats from tier than the legs

[elfin surge]

when can we craft a second piece

[raw summit]

3rd week i think

Cringe every 2 week spark

[fierce elm]

Should be 3rd week

and unless you plan to buy weapon you are 4 tier 3rd week in

[raw summit]

Buying wep seems mid

Like do 1 raid boss each week and buy lego at 535

[fierce elm]

I mean you can just get the 525 weapon

if yu dont have lego

[raw summit]

Idk i got it week 3

[fierce elm]

Bullion is only for upgrading leggo so yeah lmao

[lavish quest]

It goes to 502. Then you upgrade with crests and such

[fierce elm]

But just grab the strife weapon

[raw summit]

I pve so ill get it 535

But ye that's still week 2

[fierce elm]

Grab strife weapon next week, have full 4 tier + weapon 3rd week

only missing 3 ilvls from conq weapon compared to strife

[raw summit]

Rip spam sudden death tier

[fierce elm]

spark of life quest is some aids

[elfin surge]

yeah i need to upgrade lego idk how tho

[fierce elm]

by getting bullion from raid bosses

you need 2 to buy the upgrade thing

then you upgrade with crests

[elfin surge]

fuck

aids pve bruh

[fierce elm]

You can just do lfr lmao

[lavish quest]

Me too, just gotta grind it is all

[raw summit]

U do 1 lfr boss for it

That's managable

[elfin surge]

o

easy shit

[raw summit]

None of that sl 50 boss cringe

[lavish quest]

Just become PvE hero, easy

[raw summit]

Pve is easy

Trust

[elfin surge]

pve lol

[raw summit]

@elfin surge u gonna get ion to bring back banner next expansion right

[elfin surge]

cant we get everything next xpan lol

i think we can get shockwave avatar spear and roar

• a talent under one

[lavish quest]

You get to see bigger numbers in pve and mages don't instantly mald

And yes you can

[elfin surge]

moving shockwave was a good idea

[fierce elm]

Yall wanna know something funny as fuck

The tier pieces you upgrade from Conq gear

is the old set coloring

[lavish quest]

Now I can enjoy watching people walk out of my spear

[fierce elm]

Its the old regular gladiator set

lmao

god what a shitshow

[lavish quest]

What'd you expect it to be?

[fierce elm]

No no no

[raw summit]

Even s1 i woulda been okay with

[fierce elm]

its not the SAME as it was last season

[raw summit]

Not s3 again

[fierce elm]

I am getting the s2 appearance on my paladin

[raw summit]

Pve is s2 btw LMAO

[fierce elm]

the PvP coloring

when upgrading my conq pieces to tier

getting this on my paladin

[raw summit]

[fierce elm]

when the PvE set is this

[raw summit]

So if i make my tier i get the s1 conq set

Or what

[fierce elm]

yes

[raw summit]

That's so braindead bahahah

Love it

[fierce elm]

from the tier pieces

lmao

only the tier pieces

[raw summit]

So if i cata idk wrists

I dont get s1

Gna try on 2nd war ig

[fierce elm]

probably not I havent tried lmao

only tried tier pieces

but this still means that the elite coloration is gone

[raw summit]

Do you have 1 charge btw

Cuz in sl you kept them across s3 and s4

[fierce elm]

you have 1

[raw summit]

[fiery bone]

So what’s the play for gear? Spark weapon so we can prio conq on tier pieces? Craft boots and legs?

[marsh rampart]

Since the old set bonuses and new ones cannot not be mix and matched, does anyone know if you can have wear the 2, different (with same effect) set bonus and effectively stack a 2 piece set?

[raw summit]

Doesnt happen since fury and arms have diff seasons boni

Idk what prot got, dont care either

[lavish quest]

New season hype

[wheat jay]

So popular

[lavish quest]

Yuge

[wheat jay]

Reddit popping off

[rare sentinel]

why are there 2 sets of pvp apperances ?

[fierce elm]

w d y m

[fierce elm]

yeah Tier pieces are old conq set in appearance

only tier pieces

[wheat jay]

XD

Wait Afro

You can get conq gear

Change it in the catalyst

[fierce elm]

into the appearance of old conq yes

no elite though it seems like

[wheat jay]

Lmao

Try to get 2400 or 2100 gear from vault

And maybe will work

[fierce elm]

thats what im wondering

I just need my shuffle to pop so I can get 1800 lmao

and see if that gives osmething

[rare sentinel]

last season they allowed 1800 apperances from pve which was nice I guess that was a one time only thing

[wheat jay]

It was one piece only lol

You could have gotten elite appareance of one item by using mastery token

[sweet solstice]

So how does the 4p work this season?

[wheat jay]

More dmg

Done

Thats all there is to it

[elfin surge]

thanks artji

[sweet solstice]

no i mean how do you get to chouse your set

but thank you for the answer i wouldent have been able to figure it out

[lavish quest]

Straight to the point

[urban skiff]

wondering why I'm getting ripped in half in world pvp and then realizing i'm still in conq gear last season

[lavish quest]

Classic skill issue tbh

[fierce elm]

kek

Got my 1800 in shuffle

Rating in 3s is hard to get

We went like 8-3 and got up to 800 rating lmao

Against all former r1s/multi glads

[urban skiff]

are these with pvp or base?

[fierce elm]

with PvP

[sterile ferry]

what are we mad about today boys

[urban skiff]

guess i'm a bit above haste goal then

[fierce elm]

warrior tier nerf, appearances being the same

[fierce elm]

Yeah you get some insane fucking vers now

Just gotta look at tier pieces and which ones to make

[urban skiff]

that's honour gear doing that

[fierce elm]

Yeah

[urban skiff]

it has a disproportionately higher vers than conq gear doesd

[fierce elm]

Im at like 40% mast 38% vers 21% haste on my Paladin atm

[urban skiff]

I guess a way to slow down the game for undergeared people

[sterile ferry]

would be cool if we could just use whichever tier set and upgrade its ilvl
since its like, the last season, idk
dumb ass crit

[urban skiff]

I fucking wish we could turn on some setting to show pvp stats while shopping. It's such a pain in the ass to do without

[thick reef]

Just auto the dummy while buying

[urban skiff]

that's annoying

[thick reef]

Bruh

[urban skiff]

like really annoying, I did it the last 3 seasons and I'm kinda done

[woven bough]

assuming I dont have a mythic raid guild for myth track gear, whats all the stuff needed to keep gearing for pvp?

-capping conq for conq gear
-capping wyrmcrest for 522 hero track gear
-world pvp weekly for 525 gear

anything I'm forgetting that gives better than 515 honor gear?

[cyan sluice]

Craft some stuff when you can

Really nothing matters for long besides conq and vault

If you really wanted to min max you can fill your vault with myth track stuff for m+

[sterile ferry]

pve gear is better than pvp gear this season?

for pvp*

[rancid granite]

if you just use honor gear until full conq you have an excuse for losing

[fierce elm]

no lmao

[sterile ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-meme-gif-25947987

[sweet solstice]

member bfa?

[woven bough]

it kinda is tho at the start of season until we can get full conq gear, or am I just misunderstanding how gear works?

[fierce elm]

Are you gonna walk in with ilvl 515+ pve gear into pvp

If its above 515, sure

its better than the honor gear

[sterile ferry]

oh, yeah im not gonna get sweaty with the mythic nerds for that

[fierce elm]

lmao

[urban skiff]

the time you spent on getting above 515 pve gear with decent amounts of vers could be spent improving yourself in pvp instead.

just like in strength training, you want to work the hardest on the thing you're trying to improve, and not just drown yourself in accessory and tertiary work for 0.5% gains

[calm rover]

what's the world PvP weekly? Trying to look up where to find that info but not seeing anything.

[woven bough]

https://www.wowhead.com/quest=72647/sparks-of-life-ohnahran-plains

[calm rover]

oh, gotcha

[urban skiff]

for anyone running blitz

previous season sets scales up to honor level

have fun with that knowledge

venruki says fury almost as good as tanks

[sharp meteor]

Unnerf rend and shield slam you cowards

[urban skiff]

they nerfed them?

[wheat jay]

Tanks should never be viable in arena

[thick reef]

Wrong opinion

[urban skiff]

tanks should be viable but they shouldn't be tanking at all. Just spicy damage dealers without extra mitigation

aka GLADIATOR STANCE WARRIOR

[sharp meteor]

-gestures at ret-

[fierce elm]

you hat

talkion shi

dont talk shit boi

[grand scaffold]

ngl solid af tier list

i would put destro at worst of the 3 tanks tho

[calm rover]

living in a world where sub is 2 tiers below combat

[bright kraken]

@sharp meteor

@lavish quest

seethe bitch

[fierce elm]

nerd

[lavish quest]

Why?

This season is ded kek

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217833017507319838/1231221651287572641/image.png?ex=662a4e04&is=6628fc84&hm=4b4d49075a391cf3774771b5f61c65dec3d2c56e932138dd6ed58dfb4165dd3f&

@bright kraken

Seethe bitch

[fierce elm]

dead season

LMAO

[bright kraken]

dw dear, im getting it this season

and this new tabard too

the one for that patch was admittedly a bit ehh

this one is also ehhh but its unique as shit

[lavish quest]

The new tabard sucks

And it's a recolor. By definition not unique

Recolor of S2, which I have. And the s2 one sucks too

[bright kraken]

the colours are unique, i mean

last patch's were similar to vulpera tabard lowkey

[lavish quest]

Well... I ain't no furry

[keen gazelle]

Are we doing chest and shoulders? Or chest/gloves lads?

For tier pieces that is

[fierce elm]

Shoulders guaranteed

Its either head or chest after that

[keen gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-gif-27205452

What's the spark situation if you don't mind me asking?

Are we able to make a whole one this week? I got half from a random shuffle

Just been doing a few solo queues to get my mark of mastery until now lol

[fierce elm]

yes

you can make your embellih boots

[bright kraken]

@lavish quest @sharp meteor first shuffle of season I went 3-3, just full honour gear

Not gonna go for more until I get more conquest, how is that?

1.9k mmr

[fierce elm]

lmao

Why wouldnt you go if you dont have conqeust

what

everyone is pretty much equal gear rn

[bright kraken]

Placement games idk

[fierce elm]

There is no MMR reset either

[bright kraken]

I have like a grand total of 3 brain cell

[fierce elm]

w a t

im so confused

[lavish quest]

MMR soft resets doesn't it? Goes down some

[bright kraken]

Idk if good to push or not

My thought was that everyone pushing so that would be good players too idk

[fierce elm]

Its soft reset yeah but its not entirely reset

Just queue man

dont overthink it lmao

We were facing purely r1s and multiglads when we queued 3s today

[lavish quest]

If they good players you more likely to lose ye?

[fierce elm]

I ahve been doing shuffle today and most seem to be fine lmao

[open vessel]

Would you guys recommend playing spear with a dev in 3s as arms or just stick to the normal build? And is skullsplitter still trash to play?

[fierce elm]

no spear

spear is ass

skullsplitter is ass

[lavish quest]

Warrior is ass

[fierce elm]

warrior f tier class

[bright kraken]

What talents do we even run now

Since we're tireless for a bit

[fierce elm]

same talents

[bright kraken]

Kk

[lavish quest]

Understand the mission

[inland compass]

Anyone playing fury here?

[fierce elm]

@grand scaffold

[lavish quest]

Step one:
Do
Step two:
Big
Step three:
DAM

[grand scaffold]

sup

[lavish quest]

The townsfolk are asking about furry again

[inland compass]

he's the man is that it

[grand scaffold]

😎

i am the fury man

what do you need help with G

[inland compass]

eh trying to figure out if i should change any talents with the new tier set

wanted a second opinion i suppose

[grand scaffold]

i will send you the build im gonna be playing

not really gonna touch arms this season

[inland compass]

and im mainly talking for solo shuffle

[grand scaffold]

its the same either way

[inland compass]

alright I'd appreciate that

im not gonna play arms either although it just seems better in every way

[grand scaffold]

i just dont appreciate the tier set change

so im not touching it

[lavish quest]

Who's the better fury main?
@grand scaffold or @elfin surge ?

[grand scaffold]

probably mud

i do play 250 ms haha

he also been playing wow for longer

[fierce elm]

Mud suuux

[inland compass]

okay you went into big raging blow resets

[elfin surge]

FEED MY FURY

[inland compass]

fury gang

[grand scaffold]

FURYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[lavish quest]

But who's the taller fury main?

[grand scaffold]

do not press bloodthirst unless someone is below 35% health

[grand scaffold]

idk

ive heard mud is small

not to throw shade

[open vessel]

So we just do normal build and cry because crit is ass now?

[elfin surge]

yeah idk ur mom says im bigger than ur dad kid

stfu

[inland compass]

but... the 4 set

[grand scaffold]

im taller than my dad