pvp

[grand scaffold]

And nobody wons

Wins*

Prob happened 2 times

[elfin surge]

draws dont count as losses

[grand scaffold]

It's not a draw tho

It says loss for both players

[elfin surge]

yeah ik

[grand scaffold]

If that happens

[elfin surge]

but it doesnt hurt you

as a loss

anyways

you are over thinking it

you probably have major character control issues or incorrectly doing damage.

knowing burst rotation or simple rotation doesnt mean damage

[fickle forge]

I still can't figure if it's a double loss or a draw.
Sometimes when I get a draw I don't lose the cr

Prob why Vesa only got -32

[elfin surge]

uptime and mobility plays a big part in damage

when i watch lower rated warriors play they struggle to obtain pressure early and let the enemy get it first. Shuffle is all about obtaining pressure fast and riding momentum and knowing how to keep it. Obviously some bad lobbies come to fuck you but eventually you'll find the rating you belong at. Pushing then requires a string of good lobbies or actual player skill improvement.

You can get 2400 even rank 1 in shuffle without ever using your utility defensively or even correctly. If you're stuck 2k-2100 you probably have major issues with doing damage.

[grand scaffold]

It's the equivalent of somebody leaving the game

In terms of how everybody's cr is affected

[lavish quest]

From my understanding it just delete that round from the game (when you draw)

So if you go 3-2 with one draw, the game just evaluates 3 wins out of 5 rounds

But who really knows

[grand scaffold]

as much as mud is my opp

hes like 100% correct for once

[elfin surge]

im always correct

[lavish quest]

Turn off brain, zug zug, profit?

I knew I was thinking too much

[bright kraken]

mind you, that ele is a bot

a really shit bot too

and hunter died in turtle so no rating :3c

died wtih turtle up*

word

as in

they didnt press

uwu

baer an tort

[lavish quest]

Hunters never press it

[lavish quest]

Banned

[wheat jay]

OwO

[bright kraken]

but fr

broski lost to a HARDCASTING ele shaman bot

it was SITTING

CASTING ELE BLAST AND LAVA BURST

it was casting like it was a destro lock with infernal up and precog -x-

[lavish quest]

Just ask @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

nah couldn't be me

I never die without pressing turtle

i press it early and hear "WHY DID YOU USE TURTLE YOU HAD PS"

and then i say "missclick"

[elfin surge]

why did you use ps i had turtle

[wheat jay]

[bright kraken]

yay

[lavish quest]

Nice 2400

[bright kraken]

😭

[fickle forge]

Congrats on monkey elite

[grand scaffold]

lmao that rsham that went 4-2 wants to run 3s with me rn

[grand scaffold]

and i thought it was something miraculous

[lavish quest]

Apparently it is 😭

How often do you guys use hurricane in solos?
How often do you use fatality?

[grand scaffold]

i never dont use hurricane on arms

i never use fatality

[elfin surge]

dont listen to ndogo

he knows nothing

[grand scaffold]

i mean

im 2600 in shuffle rn

and like 2500 in 3s

🤷‍♂️

[elfin surge]

flexing cr?

whats ur bench

[grand scaffold]

50 kg

starting working out

semi recently

😄

used to be 30 lmao

hbu

[bright kraken]

What to take instead?

[fickle forge]

He says he always picks it

[bright kraken]

OH

Look

It's 2am aight

[fickle forge]

Yeah I'm looking

Looking at you shuffling your way till the morning

[lavish quest]

What's ur bench?

[lavish quest]

Dm me your build for solos when you can pls. Curious. And don't wanna try to dig a month back for when you may have posted it for someone lol

[bright kraken]

I've also realised that because Americans are on DST rn, rush hour is 3am .-.

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bill-dauterive-merica-america-flag-gif-11317646004176629108

[bright kraken]

I also meant to sleep like an hour ago but I've now gotten to the point where I'm not tired again so I guess I'll just shuffle more

Sheug

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

Girl's definitely addicted to shuffle

[bright kraken]

I'm not addicted to shuffle

I'm addicted to my delusions of a rose red sword

[fickle forge]

Aesthetics is everything after all

[lavish quest]

The true endgame

[bright kraken]

this lobby was such a fucking joke

fucking hell

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

where wins?

[bright kraken]

what can i do when my teammate blows up by 1.5min

how am i supposed to win

that isnt a safeguard lobby thats a disarm lobby, no?

i even tried safeguard

it was less effective than disarm, and disarm was already a loss

[elfin surge]

here we go time to overthink utility

[bright kraken]

i mean

we didnt lose because i died

we lost because my teammate had a life expectancy of 1.5min

[elfin surge]

did you not read my hand crafted msg specifically for you?

[bright kraken]

wher

[elfin surge]

@bright kraken

read my next few msgs down

[lavish quest]

Expand on this one

[bright kraken]

im keeping up on them whole game

and im doing rotation

?

[lavish quest]

Knew it

[wheat jay]

thats not doing damage to win

doing damage to win is knowing when to do dmg

example from survi cuz its easy and you know it

explosive shot

you can send on cd

but it will get dispelled

and if it doesnt

[elfin surge]

expand how

[wheat jay]

then it brings more value when enemy is in trap

so it doesn't get healed

[elfin surge]

someone can tell me they do their burst correctly or rotation right but when i watch them its totally different story

[wheat jay]

that too xD

[elfin surge]

you can explain the correct burst rotation perfectly but doing it in arena is totally different

also pressure is not the same as damage

doing damage doesnt keep pressure

[bright kraken]

i mean

we're in a melee comp... i dont understand

its not like we los

[lavish quest]

He means pump the numbers up at the right time.

If you burst but heal is free casting and defensives rolling, you won't get as far as if you locked down the kill target and the healer

[bright kraken]

what am i supposed to do on opener then

am i supposed to be holding colossal smashes?

sharpens?

[fickle forge]

Overthinking utility is a real thing

Damage is the main carry

Utility is the support

[bright kraken]

even then, i feel like there's more i can do when the hpal dies within 30 seconds of the game starting

im not exaggerating that number

[fickle forge]

I mean I'd have to watch the game

[elfin surge]

have you ever shown your gameplay here ? @bright kraken

[lavish quest]

Just means when you fight that hpal you have to kill them in 23 seconds

[grand scaffold]

6-0 inc

or 3-3

if hpriest goes 0-6

3-3

-_-

[fallen estuary]

Bedroom fantasy fr

[fallen estuary]

Who did u go?

[grand scaffold]

dont mind my shopping list

[grand scaffold]

ret the whole time

one threw consistantly on my team

[fallen estuary]

In melee stacks did you take both WW talents?

The 2 ww talents are so damn powerful for melee lobbies

[grand scaffold]

nah

i prob should tho

[fallen estuary]

Takes you from 70k dps pitbulling straight up to 150-200k

Next melee lobby run it

Deduct from the BT below 30% talents ibto both

[grand scaffold]

yeah ik

i just gotta reorganize my bars

[fallen estuary]

Just remember to embrace your spirit animal while in the arena

A rabid pitbull

[grand scaffold]

you playing annihilator?

imo shits trash

cant explain why smexxin runs it

[fallen estuary]

Hell naw

You gotta stack haste for that shit

Verse n mastery are HIGHEST prior with rb

[grand scaffold]

i got those troll stats

💪

[fallen estuary]

Ill post mine when i get home

[grand scaffold]

i be trolling fr

[fallen estuary]

I got like 74 mst and 40 verse with a decent 13 crit

[grand scaffold]

how 74 mastery?

you gotta have like 0 haste

[fallen estuary]

The crit is REALLY good with insane mastery

You get 30% haste base

[grand scaffold]

whats your character name

[fallen estuary]

Just add another y lol

Lookup

I gotta drive home and cast bladestorm in my car in a busy highway

Hate being rooted in a highway

[grand scaffold]

im considering your stats

[fallen estuary]

The damage is insanely good

Like better than dh if you rock it

[grand scaffold]

no tier set?

[fallen estuary]

2 set yea 4 set sucks bawlz

[grand scaffold]

true

does jack shit

[fallen estuary]

It only reduced the cd by 3 sec LOL

[grand scaffold]

now how tf do i get sparks fast

[grand scaffold]

dont you stack slaughter house hella slow?

[fallen estuary]

You stack whatever you get into a ramp when avail

20% ramp inc is still decent alone

But onslaught is the main big boy damage ability for SH ramps

[grand scaffold]

i mean your ms

[fallen estuary]

Smexxy runs it cause its more about survivability and lacks dmg

Did it post it this late damn

[fallen estuary]

Its something but still rock it

[grand scaffold]

idk

i just dropped vers

[fallen estuary]

With the amount of ramps you put out and constant aoe slot it

[grand scaffold]

and gained haste

and im pumping even more now

[fallen estuary]

Eh i could redistribute the crit i have into haste but the crits really good for your reck windows

7% is the base and my build has 13% it gives you a better chance at landing a kill during procs and avatar windows

[grand scaffold]

i also dropped crit

to 5%

[fallen estuary]

Crits suprisingly good for fury

[grand scaffold]

meh

i get 25% with reck

[fallen estuary]

It might not seem like it but its actually good with reck

[grand scaffold]

possible

[grand scaffold]

ngl after testing meat cleaver

it seems kinda mid

[fallen estuary]

my stats

[grand scaffold]

with enrage?

[fallen estuary]

yea

the haste is the reason why i take crit but ill get some crafting shit and convert some crit into haste

and ill test out stats

[grand scaffold]

ngl im not gonna run any crit

5% feels fine

[fallen estuary]

jesus christ i got 44% verse now from just dropping the crit

im gonna stack even more ololoolol

[bright kraken]

Season 4 weapon appearances leaked?

[fickle forge]

Watch them reusing all the elite weps for next season

[bright kraken]

😭

[wheat jay]

Ayyy another season to get

I will MAYBE try to do it xD

If the season is not absolute dogshit

[bright kraken]

i mean

i'm getting them this season

i don't get what you're on about broski

[wheat jay]

Well another season for ms

Me

Cuz i kinda cba

Unless I farmed 2s or had lucky lobbies in shuff

[bright kraken]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1208352075088531466/makesweet-p0b1be.gif

anyone know if its only s3 weaps?

or s1 and s2 too

[fickle forge]

I'm like 3 rating off of it

But can I be bothered to play WoW when there's Helldivers doe

[wheat jay]

Amen brother

I could get it by forcing James to play 2s

But do I want to suffer through outlaw rogues?

And make him suffer through same shit

[fickle forge]

Surely next season KFC is S+

[wheat jay]

Surely

Funny thing is we kinda dominate 2s at 2200 mmr xD

When I played like 50 2s games this season, or less

[fickle forge]

Maybe you should beat James and my mmr first 😎

[wheat jay]

The moment kfc is s+ we hit r1 xD

[fickle forge]

R1 dodgers as per usual

[wheat jay]

Do I bother?

James was like one or two wins away from 2400 with 0 xp viewers

So getting 2400 with him would probably be fairly easy

Compared to 3s

[fickle forge]

If you desire 2400 sure

[wheat jay]

Yeeee I cba then

I wanted it in s1

XD now I don't care

I don't even remember s2 elite weapons

Surely we're gonna get best mogs EVER in 11.0

Animated armors again

Just like wod

[bright kraken]

hopefully they give some older armour sets the thunderstone treatment

[wheat jay]

Yeeee

[bright kraken]

@wheat jay we're backl

[bright kraken]

im getting more issues with frost mages again'

ughh

root blink alter blink displace root

-x-

if i go for them i dont do shit

if i dont go for them my healer is stuck in polymorph the whole time

uwu

[lavish quest]

Should have been an easy 6-0 but first round hunter saves turtle and rsham saves link for next round

[lavish quest]

Your teammate, especially if ranged, needs to help stop the cc

[bright kraken]

shadow priest

and UH DK

[lavish quest]

Hmm... when sp on your team, you go mage but you just gotta pool mobility and walk at him

When uh DK on your team... hmm... do TSG things? lol

[bright kraken]

?

should i even go for mage on large maps

[lavish quest]

TSG is a 3s comp of war/DK. In the past they used to just run down healers. Dunno if they still do tho. Tho I don't think TSG has been meta in quite some time

You might just want to hit caster closest to your healer?

I'm not the most sure, maybe someone else can advise better

[bright kraken]

alright

i think im better with mugambala too now

please no frost mage or aff lock 🙏

[wary delta]

yeah mage is the bane of my existence

arcane is so lame

so is BM

I take spear cuz its the only way I can hit shit

and sometimes they can just blink out of it

liek wtf

[bright kraken]

arcane is alright because at least you can fucking move

and kicking anything makes them useless for a few seconds

kick glacial spike/frost bomb? blink blink nuke nuke

kick polymorph? nuke nuke ice block

[bright kraken]

is arms just really bad with rogue or something

i swear everytime i have a rogue on my side i lose

[wheat gulch]

Are you able to get a full set of honor gear pretty quickly? I currently don't have a single pvp item but would like to fully gear up before I try arena

[bright kraken]

yeah

especially if you're getting it from alts

[wheat gulch]

Only got 1 max lvl character. So would it be best to just spam random BGs? Or is there a better way

[bright kraken]

i think that's the best way but i may be wrong

[lavish quest]

If Comp stomp is ever available spam that. Do pvp quests. Bgs etc

[lavish quest]

Some of the epic bgs have onetime or weekly quests for 1500 honor. Like the wintergrasp one is to kill 10 dudes which includes the horde pve mobs in it

[bright kraken]

finally the mmr doesn't fuck me over

both locks were shit, both healers said

[bright kraken]

this lobby was nice

the secret to get a hpal to love you is to pray for your enemies to stack when you have shockwave, fear and bladestorm all off cd

[wheat gulch]

is there any reason to upgrade honor gear? its all the same ilvl in pvp

its the same ilvl inside pvp as green even 8/8 upgraded

[bright kraken]

fuck

[bright kraken]

only to increase pve ilvl

[fickle forge]

[wheat jay]

Winnable

[bright kraken]

this frost mage keeps just clapping my ass everytime they are in my lobby

its the same one too

its always when my teammate is a melee

i've found its best to swap to them only when they are close, i just get kited otherwise

2-3, +5 because the lobby was 20 mmr higher than me

my partner is a windwalker monk btw

we just get kited to the point its better to mainly go demo and swap the mage

https://seramate.com/us/Tichondrius/Zinnos this dude

every single lobby with them just 😭

i legit cant do shit against frost mage unless my teammate is ret or BM i swear

or just a caster ig

ill record my next game

[idle falcon]

Where did Galachad go

;-;

[bright kraken]

Galachad galahad enough of being called out for false info

[idle falcon]

Did he leave the server?

[bright kraken]

Da!

[idle falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/rotadu-gif-20206208

[wheat jay]

Galachad is Galagone

[idle falcon]

It's Joever

[bright kraken]

and i fucking forgot to record

0-6

tiger's peak MM boomy DH hpal MW

this is the closest i got to criticism

whats dbs

The dh had the audacity to die on opener first round whilst wielding the 2.4k glaives too ._.

[cold summit]

Is fury good or is arms the move

[wheat jay]

dh are generally dogshit

i was playing 2s game against a current glad dh

man got folded in a minute...

popping every wall on the planet in the first minute of the game XD

[lavish quest]

You've betrayed them

angrypepe

[wheat jay]

i mean

just objective fact

xD

[lavish quest]

You were one of those then

[bright kraken]

FACTS

[lavish quest]

Besides, everyone but wars suck and are carried by their class

[bright kraken]

How do you push from 2.2k to 2.4k

[lavish quest]

The legends say, winning

[grand scaffold]

💪

[lavish quest]

We pumping this morning

2nd would have been 6-0 but DH went for dog strat first round -.-

Oh which sham went "this war" after that round and then I proceeded to dunk the lobby

[wheat jay]

True

And I had to relearn pvp when going back to survi

Cuz dh was too forgiving

Going from super forgiving to super unforgiving spec is quite a mountain to climb

[lavish quest]

Haha, looks familiar? Seems like these are happening all over the community, right now! You could be next. That is unless you make the most important decision of your life. Prove to yourself that you have the strength and the courage to be free. Join... the Arms Warriors. Become part of an elite lifting force! See exotic new ratings! And spread managed testosterone throughout the community! Become a HERO! Become a LEGEND! Become an Arms Warrior!

[wheat jay]

I have been arms warrior since I was a kid playing on private servers

And now I play the manliest 3s comp

Kfc

And I'm gonna go eat me some kfc now too

Kentucky gold wrapper ftw

[lavish quest]

Not now

[lavish quest]

Way to appropriate my culture

Especially since my mother's side of the family is from Kentucky, and still there

[wheat jay]

XD

[wheat jay]

I have warr now too

Been getting 1800 every season except this one, cuz it's ugly as hell xD

Was 2k on it twice too

Once 3s, once 2s

Had CE on warrior, playing arms

And I have big arms irl

[lavish quest]

Did an ancestory test once, and it was like you're white boi (european lol) and you have a lot of kentucky settlers shit in you. Nothing that surprised me, tho I did have a great grandmother in brazil for some time lol

Get 1800 might as well, piss easy

I've done it on 2 healers and I don't even heal

[lavish quest]

I also have a CE as arms, and that's with me MAINING prot in pve

My guild at the time was like "another guy in the raid wants to swap to tank"

[bright kraken]

pics or they're as big as MUD's

[lavish quest]

My arms are nothing special, but I'm 6'4

[wheat jay]

Not sending you pics but @fickle forge can testify

That I indeed have big arms

Biggest during pump was 46cm right 44 left

Never had that again 😦

Was MAD pump tho

[lavish quest]

sussy

Meant to one arm being bigger than the other. One's getting extra use o.O

[wheat jay]

Well

Left gets more use

Right is the mouse arm

[lavish quest]

From all those rub outs while you were a DH

We get it

[wheat jay]

Arms got smaller when I made dh

[lavish quest]

That's your integrity you're thinking of

Now its all gone

[wheat jay]

Lol

I'm reformed

I'll play dh again when it gets a new spec

[lavish quest]

I'll RP as a DH when they let warriors use warglaives again

I'm a simp for only one class in this game, and that's warrior

WW is pretty cool, I should off spec it more

[wheat jay]

Survi is mad fun

[lavish quest]

Though its a lil bloated atm imo

[wheat jay]

I'd play ww if it was less magic and clones and more of a brawler

How outlaw the most brawler like spec is beyond me

[wheat jay]

Try survi imo

Tho it's also a little bloated

[lavish quest]

I didn't like survi when it first got reworked in legion, but I heard from galachad that it basically got reworked again since

[wheat jay]

It's gotten reworked every expansion lol

[lavish quest]

So is it not ass now then?

[wheat jay]

Compared to shadowlands I'd say it's worse and less fun

But overall it's like 8/10

Solid for 2s too

Shit for 3s sadly

Good for shuffle

[bright kraken]

how do we make up for bad healers in solo shuffle?

[wheat jay]

You win before they lose you the game

[bright kraken]

how do we make up for bad dps?

[lavish quest]

RNG baby

[wheat jay]

Thing about shuffle

Is you have to carry the games

No matter how good or bad lobby is

Your goal is always to carry

Never to rely on other dps or healer

You need to win the games

Sometimes you have to conform to your teammates to do that

[lavish quest]

How to win:

Just be better than everyone else.

[wheat jay]

Basically xD

[elfin surge]

you guys and ur shuffle

[wheat jay]

What do you mean mine

I barely shuffle

[bright kraken]

h o w

[wheat jay]

@elfin surge answer her please

I'm buying groceries rn

[elfin surge]

I never lose shuffle

only win

[lavish quest]

You can't find 3s partners either it seems

[elfin surge]

games so dead

[lavish quest]

U ain't' wrong

[wheat jay]

11.0 waiting room

[lavish quest]

Been that since ret rework

[lavish quest]

Make parry a 1 min CD so we can almost be demon hunters, thoughts @wheat jay ?

[fickle forge]

He had big arms @bright kraken

But bro has been dodging his gym lately

[bright kraken]

why did i imagine someone physically dodging gyms that were being thrown at them

[lavish quest]

Furry meets jUsT dOdGe meme hears gym

[wheat jay]

Had a good reason tho

[wheat jay]

Give normal hunters blur and remove turtle, we good?

[wary delta]

remove blur form game

[lavish quest]

I'd say that's okay but then I think about feign 90% Dr every like 30 secs. Imagine just going feign, blur with feign, repeat

[wheat jay]

Could have feign gone, then blur and turtle in

Or have it be 1s again like before, to clutch immune some oneshots

[lavish quest]

Some classes should take the dick

Mages and hunters among them

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-26283306

literally me

[lavish quest]

Oh God the furry's getting excited

[deft wharf]

Partway through the axe quests, is the wep cancer in pvp or about on par with conq weps?

[lavish quest]

It's a little better than conq

The on use is trash

But the passive dot and slightly higher ilvl is good

[deft wharf]

Is the dot magic? It'd be comical if it broke stealth

The on use is like a charge yea?

[lavish quest]

Ummm? Maybe? Never thought about it

Rend is better for keeping out of stealth anyways

[deft wharf]

Wish I didn't work 6 more hours, I gotta finish quests and bonk with it

[lavish quest]

It's a charge then it kinda cc's you for a couple seconds to do a big attack

That's big nerfed in pvp so does no dam

[deft wharf]

Charge+guldan trinket effect minus dam? Yes nty lmao

Ppl gonna be pressing w away from it

[lavish quest]

If you absolutely out of mobility it is technically usable

Ye the dam is trash

And most walk out anyways

[deft wharf]

I should see if I can cancelaura the anim

[lavish quest]

Warriors have been experimenting. You can't. You may he able to cancel by equipping another wep, but then swapping back is 2 gcds

[deft wharf]

Still jazzed about the dot, mainly play fury so one more layer of stealth break

My fault for still playing it really, but man do I hate new arms

Miss how it played in mop (not the goofy aaa tuning but that was fun too)

[lavish quest]

Bring back mop arms

[deft wharf]

Arms died with wod prepatch or whenever it changed

Bring back glad stance too, adding it to SoD is a slap in the face

[lavish quest]

Glad stance how they did it in wow was kinda lame ngl

Wod*

[deft wharf]

Instead of adding a full spec?

No sword and board dps in the game atm

[lavish quest]

Or at least just changing the spec up more

[elfin surge]

arms died after season 2 shadowlands with d stance nerf

[lavish quest]

Just a stand that made you do more dmg in stead of take less, and just changing your active mit into dmg buttons was lazy and boring

[deft wharf]

Modern arms feels goofy to me period

[lavish quest]

It's was a gimmick

[deft wharf]

Wod forward, and def slands

I miss when sweeping strikes effected bladestorm

Absolutely melted

That+bloodbath

[elfin surge]

yeah ur old

[lavish quest]

Arms not allowed to do big dam.
We must be playable dots

Bloodbath was dope

[deft wharf]

Optionally adding rocket boots to make druids and mages mald in bg and wpvp

As the spinning semitruck of fk you runs them over

[lavish quest]

Old these days = can afford a home

[deft wharf]

Bring back old nitro boot speed too, they cucked the speed in the last few years

[deft wharf]

It used to be nearly epic flight speed

Ppl who were born when I started playing are now playing and about to graduate hs

So yea, feelsoldman

[lavish quest]

Don't worry, they on fortnite

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-pokemon-vaporeon-spin-spin-spinning-gif-25250954

[deft wharf]

Hell, bring back mass reflect and allow it to interact with knockbacks like it used to

Used to be able to reflect thunderstorm and typhoon

Endless comedy defending lm or fighting mid in eots and watching a druid or sham in Egypt suddenly fly off with no clue how it occurred

Gonna be wild that the old root break charge is coming back

Watch them change it to only effect slows

[fickle forge]

You weirdo lmfao

[wary delta]

Did you know that vaporeon...

[whole tulip]

What should my second embellishment be as arms?

[lavish quest]

Use the boots, and then either blue silken lining or verdant conduit

[wheat jay]

[deft wharf]

♂️Boss of this gym♂️

[wheat gulch]

is it easy to get 1800 in solo shuffle?

[grand scaffold]

its not particularly hard

people have different experiences

[lavish quest]

I would say yes. But if I'm doing it for a spec I don't really play or something I usually just do it in 2s

But depends if you are familiar with pvp

[elfin surge]

[wheat gulch]

i qued for a solo shuffle to try it out and its a 15min wait time 😦

is it always this bad of que time

[lavish quest]

Says 15 mins

It really means 30-45 mins

Which is the actual normal

[wheat gulch]

dang so dead game mode

[bright kraken]

welp

got back to 217x again

and dropped back to 2080 and got called a fking bad war even though idfk what im doing and people are telling me to do other stuff which i really shouldnt have done

so many healer difference games .-.

[deft wharf]

That bs is atypical of lfg, fk em

[stoic relic]

which class has the highest skill cap in pvp?

[wheat jay]

Depends on the balancing

But usually it's sub rogue

Feral

Survi

Arcane mage

[sharp meteor]

probs mage

or druid

[lavish quest]

Warrior, trust

🙏

[deft wharf]

really is a shame axe is nerfed in pvp

the animation is rad

would be sick if it melted someone in a bolt

even if it would be prob more cancerous than double shadowmourne ever was

[bright kraken]

bro

im not going to spend 500k gold to be viable

[wary delta]

wdym axe

I am confiusion

[deft wharf]

tbh it's not even 500k anymore, esp with ah being tied to like every server

it only feels a bit better than a conq weapon, but the dot IS neat for restealth trolling

the on use is 110% not doing much dam, but it's funny to dab on ppl with

all of a sudden leaping at someone and slapfighting them with weapon

it applies on anything with 100% uptime, including heroic throw LMAO

[lavish quest]

When I made it like maybe a month ago at most, it was 150k or less

[bright kraken]

still more than i can afford

i have like

a total of 4 gold and 21 copper to my name

[wheat gulch]

What's fastest way to get tons of conquest I only have full honor gear lol

[idle falcon]

why do you have Condemn on your bar

[bright kraken]

i like making some of my buttons prettier

its just a macro that casts execute

[idle falcon]

Execute is already pretty fym

[mortal birch]

yo what happened to fungus

[bright kraken]

fungus is no longer amongus

[idle falcon]

xd

[mortal birch]

y

[bright kraken]

idk who fungus is lol

[mortal birch]

pls dont tell me he left cuz Galachad's gone

[bright kraken]

when galachad galahad enough, he took fungus withus

[mortal birch]

what a galacuck

[grand scaffold]

for healers

evoker and shaman

for melee

sub rogue and feral

for ranged

aff and arcane

[wheat jay]

Fuck no

Affli with infinite healing?

[grand scaffold]

have you tried playing aff to 2400?

its one of the harder specs

because you have to bait with certain things

and not others

while avoiding cc on every drain possible

its not ez

[wheat jay]

bruh

no way affli is hard when you can 40k hps XD

have walls every minute

teleport, gate

all the lock cc

nah

[grand scaffold]

play aff to 2.4

then tell me its ez

[wheat jay]

its a lock

i rest my case

[scarlet barn]

Dont rest your case just yet

[wheat jay]

I just did

[scarlet barn]

Well

Hope you rest it well then

[bright kraken]

posting while im happy before next game i go 1-5 and cry

0 rating healer

[bright kraken]

it was a 1-5

fire ret BM rdru hpal Nagrand

i somehow got more mileage out of spamming charge on cd than walking to the mage

[hollow mist]

Yo guys, planning to push to 2400 with the hunter warrior rdruid team comp, how good is that comp in 3v3s nowadays?

[bright kraken]

@wheat jay @fickle forge

[elfin surge]

not great lol

if you're trying to push 3s you basically only have 1 comp really

ret war fw

[hollow mist]

Thanks man!

So even if it’s 2400 and not glad, I should probably go with ret war fw?

[fickle forge]

Garbage comp

[bright kraken]

even better idea

play RMP

[elfin surge]

yeah everything else is hell

[wheat jay]

dogshit

literally dogshit

its fun

but you start from losing position every time you q

[elfin surge]

[wheat jay]

I wish kfc was good 😦

maybe if survi was unkillable it'd be good

[wary delta]

kfc is finger licking good

[wheat jay]

real

[bright kraken]

turning healer differences around in my favour

[hollow mist]

Thanks for the help guys!

[bright kraken]

im starting to become convinced im autistic

i meant it as in this rating range (2.1-2.2k) fear seems to be more useful because people stack up more .-.

for whatever reason

i did not mean it in that way .-.

now i just feel shitty

[wheat jay]

dont be

fuck them enemies

they deserve dirt and losing cr

[bright kraken]

instructions unclear: pregnant

[wheat jay]

fuck, not get fucked...

thats why you're still not 2400

[elfin surge]

you guys and ur shuffles

[fickle forge]

Mud and his midstorm

[wheat jay]

Plunder > arena

[spare kindle]

Is it feasible to pvp as prot ?

[bright kraken]

sorry didnt read prot as prot, read prot as tank

xd

[spare kindle]

Soo feasible but not ideal

[lavish quest]

It's not tbh

It only exists because players are stubborn and blizz won't ban tanks from queuing

[bright kraken]

why do resto druids cc the kill target

ALWAYS the resto druid too

[lavish quest]

The clone low/on defensives

To make them waste the cds

Or they bad kek

Ret/boomy/aff/me lobby

Ret went 0-6

Feel bad for the guy

But I get rating...

[fallen estuary]

My big boy robbo up there

[bright kraken]

our lock died 12 seconds after they cloned healer

and the only thing the shaman would've had was spirit link which isnt too much all things considered

[bright kraken]

i got maldraxxus MM UH Ret Hpal Pres

2-4 lost 40 rating

it was a healer difference but the dk doesn't understand targetting

@fickle forge what do i do when im kill target

sigh

[elfin surge]

u guys and ur shuffles

[lavish quest]

You'll be joining us soon enough

[grand scaffold]

you like it?

[bright kraken]

when you lose a healer difference 2-4 because of stupid cc

[lavish quest]

Stop the CC

[wheat jay]

just stop cc

[lavish quest]

Just play DH

[sharp meteor]

What's your interest

Because the spec is somewhere between unplayable and bad in most forms of pvp

and only really exists in shuffle because it has its own ladder

[spare kindle]

Was going to do some BGs and arenas. Guess I’ll dust off arms

[boreal stone]

you do EVERYHTING but upload a vod

[grand scaffold]

yeah fr

idk why hes against it so much

[boreal stone]

this discord is his personal diary

[grand scaffold]

😂

[boreal stone]

pings ppl after EVERY shuffle

[grand scaffold]

lmao

[boreal stone]

followed by a picture of his rating

[grand scaffold]

lmao

but no vod

[boreal stone]

iom just so confused by it

if u want to get better and want actual advice

u upload a vod

his approach is almost like he isnt the one making mistakes, but its the classes hes facing that are causing him to lose

[grand scaffold]

yeah lol

[fickle forge]

I, for one, am invested in this arc 😎

She has sent some VODs though, which I promised to review when I get home

[sharp meteor]

Feels absolutely useless in BGs

in arena it can honestly be KIND OF okay with the right comp/playstyle

the spec is still really funny into physical teams

[grand scaffold]

ngl i like kfc

[lavish quest]

Maybe about a month left of the arc

[grand scaffold]

why a month?

[lavish quest]

Just guessing that season change happens when plunderstorm ends

Just a hunch

[sharp meteor]

Seems like somewhere between 5-8 weeks left. 😁

[elfin surge]

season ends april 30th

[grand scaffold]

confirmed?

[grand scaffold]

they would've announced end of season if it was that soon

[elfin surge]

trust me bro

i know things

[lavish quest]

Still gives them 2 weeks to give the 2 weeks notice

Lol

2 and a half actually

[grand scaffold]

i thought it ends in 2 weeks?

[lavish quest]

Plunderstorm around for 6 weeks

[grand scaffold]

oh

then that makes sense

[lavish quest]

We in the middle.of the 2nd week

So 4.5 weeks left

[grand scaffold]

i think it ends may 2nd

idk why

[grand scaffold]

check the right side

being the TOP G that i am

i got glad as fury

and not only that

i did it

as surv kfc

😄

[lavish quest]

Congrats big man

[fickle forge]

Screen Captured

[grand scaffold]

@wheat jay @scarlet barn @fickle forge

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[grand scaffold]

lol printscreen does that

[fickle forge]

As KFC?

[grand scaffold]

yessir

fury surv pres

[fickle forge]

Nice job

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[lavish quest]

If only you weren't stuck with Artji

[fickle forge]

I'm not stuck with anyone

We literally never play

[grand scaffold]

lmfao

[lavish quest]

But eww gnome

[scarlet barn]

Boosted

[wheat jay]

gz

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[scarlet barn]

Jk good job

[grand scaffold]

😂

thanks man

[scarlet barn]

Now stop playing wow

[grand scaffold]

i took what you said into account

about arms not being respectable

[scarlet barn]

Good

Dont make me say that again though

[grand scaffold]

😂

[urban skiff]

GJ bro, making the rest of us look bad. 🙂

[grand scaffold]

🤣

thanks man

[lavish quest]

We are bad

[grand scaffold]

nah

btw leland what cr have you hit now

forgot to ask

[lavish quest]

2262 in solos on my main rn

[grand scaffold]

nice man!

getting up there

keep it pushing

[lavish quest]

Gonna try to queue some on my alt work it back up a bit

Was 2100 on it too but then shot down lmao

[grand scaffold]

all g

[lavish quest]

My gnome disgustedface

Maybe next season I'll try to just prio threes rather than solos, spend days in LFG to find 2 people for 3 games before they leave

lmao

[scarlet barn]

If you dont play you wont look bad

Checkmate

[lavish quest]

Oh actually now that I think about it, I think when I played this guy last I think I dc'd or left a match, so my MMR might still be up there. I forget tho

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge

since when

can u not spell reflect

while disarmed

i was able to 11 days ago

now i cant

when was this changed

@iron nacelle

[fickle forge]

You should be able to?

[elfin surge]

i cant

i started noticing it in arena the other day

just tested it

[grand scaffold]

dumbest change on planet earth

i didnt even notice

[scarlet barn]

That is bit uncoventional

[lavish quest]

It uses your shield bro

[scarlet barn]

Maybe @slim saffron knows whats up

[slim saffron]

what's that

[scarlet barn]

👀

[scarlet barn]

This

[slim saffron]

first I've heard of it, but I can't remember the last time I was disarmed either

I'll put in a bug report though

[scarlet barn]

Appreciated

[grand scaffold]

why is it

that we can spell reflect during disarm

[elfin surge]

https://x.com/Mudcxx/status/1773816845398589762?s=20

Mud (@Mudcxx) on X

So... I guess you cant use spell reflect while disarmed anymore? When was this changed? I checked a vod of myself from 11 days ago and I was able to so this change is recent.
@WarcraftDevs

Twitter · Mar 29, 2024, 8:57 PM

[slim saffron]

if I had to guess (and let's be honest, that's all I really do here), I would say that some designer probably looked at the tooltip, which specifically says

Raise your weapon reflecting the first spell cast on you...

and decided that it's not supposed to work without a weapon

[elfin surge]

that is very annoying in pvp

[lavish quest]

So we have to petition to change the tooltip to raise your hand...
hmmNod

Or maybe to "Raise your arcanite ripper to the sky"

lol

[grand scaffold]

what a dumb developer

[iron nacelle]

yeah we tested all the disarms

rogue/monk/hunter/warrior

they all break SR

[grand scaffold]

how stupid

[slim saffron]

well yeah, disarm is disarm, it should function the same regardless of the source of the effect

[grand scaffold]

the other thing is

assass rogues

can silence you

during bladestorm

so you can rally

[slim saffron]

do

they

also

make

you

talk

[iron nacelle]

Dismantle used to be different from warrior disarm, I was thinking it was unique to rogue and rogue coded disarms

[slim saffron]

like

this?

[iron nacelle]

but nope

[slim saffron]

at any rate, it's hard to say whether its an intentional change aimed at PvP, if some designer just noticed an inconsistency and decided to fix it without considering the ramifications, or otherwise

On a certain level, it does make sense; just like you shouldn't be able to block without a shield

[iron nacelle]

It doesn't gray out so it seems like a bug not a feature.

[wheat jay]

wait

why are people crying to Archi about pvp?

huh?

[slim saffron]

speaking of, did anyone bother to check if Prot can spell reflect while disarmed (either before or after the patch?)

[wheat jay]

did I miss something?

[elfin surge]

nobody plays prot

[slim saffron]

yes, scroll up

[wheat jay]

oh

[slim saffron]

which is why I asked if anyone bothered to check it lol

[grand scaffold]

no

[wheat jay]

fair enough

[grand scaffold]

✅

[slim saffron]

I think the answer to that question would probably give some insight as to why this change might have been made - if prot couldn't before, due to being deprived of their shield, then it might very well be an intentional change for the sake of "consistency"

[elfin surge]

it feels like a bug it was randomly changed with no warning or post about it and it still lights up as if you can still use it

just gives an error

[slim saffron]

conversely, if prot still can, then that would be pretty clear "this is definitely a bug" territory

[slim saffron]

idk that sounds like just another patch as far as WoW is concerned

[elfin surge]

😂

[slim saffron]

anyway, I reported the bug, so we'll see what (if anything) happens

[scarlet barn]

@fervent arch

But i have no idea if there are even disarm mechanics in pve currently

[slim saffron]

unless there's something obscure in M+, I don't believe there are any

[fervent arch]

https://i.imgur.com/S8jkzAp.png

you dont need a weapon to spellreflect

so id assume disarm shouldnt directly affect your ability to SR?

[scarlet barn]

So prob only affects pvp or maybe aura effect

Well it does now for some reason

Since MUD tested it. Question is if that is only pvp exclusive

@elfin surge try the same as nomeratur

Preferably in pvp combat

[slim saffron]

what about a shield? "narratively" speaking, prot uses their shield, while Arms/Fury uses their weapon

[scarlet barn]

No sub means no testing for me

[fervent arch]

i mean in the screenshot i have nothing equipped

and i can cast SR

and im in Arms spec

not in pvp combat tho

lemme go to pvp dummy

[slim saffron]

oh well then that's not prot's spell reflect, but yeah, ok

it sounds like it's specifically linked to Disarm then

which definitely changes the context of the issue

[fervent arch]

SR tooltip specifically says "raise your weapon"

[scarlet barn]

Somebody removed coconut picture from database i knew it

[grand scaffold]

🤡

[slim saffron]

Yeah, and the Prot version says "raise your shield" which is why I asked if Prot could do it while disarmed

[fervent arch]

need a volunteer then

for a duel

[slim saffron]

I'm just troubleshooting, trying to narrow down factors

[fervent arch]

ye

prot can also use SR without anything equipped

[slim saffron]

but it sounds like the issue is specifically with disarm, which means it's not a matter of changing the spell to better reflect the wording, and was probably made specifically with PvP in mind (assuming it was an intentional change)

[scarlet barn]

If so, not properly documented/shown to public

[lavish quest]

Maybe the devs just getting ideas, it used to require a shield so maybe they wanted to return to that slightly

[scarlet barn]

If you can do it while no weapon equipped but not while disarmed it is bit inconsistent

Also makes warrior even squishier during disarm

But only in pvp though

[boreal stone]

testing it in a sec

confirmed

u cannot spell reflect while disarmed

[slim saffron]

Unfortunately, it makes me think that it's probably an intended PvP adjustment that just wasn't announced

[boreal stone]

its fucking dogshit to put it lightly

I can unequip my weapon

and reflect

while in pvp combat

but I cant reflect while im disarmed?

[slim saffron]

if it weren't castable at all without a weapon/shield, then there's a chance someone was making a "flavor change" without considering the ramifications of PvP

But disarm is (currently) exclusive to PvP, which makes it seem a lot more like an intended change

[grand scaffold]

😂

what nonsense is that

[slim saffron]

Not to say it couldn't still be a bug though, we've seen stranger stuff

[boreal stone]

Average PvE dev getting down n dirty in pvp

[grand scaffold]

i mean

wows been out for 20 years

making such a change now

seems so dumb

[scarlet barn]

Reflect needed shield in tbc

So you know

[slim saffron]

I mean tuning is something that is always ongoing

[boreal stone]

also needed shield in wrath as well i think

[slim saffron]

also Arms/Fury only recently got Spell Reflect back

[scarlet barn]

Got introduced in tbc

[slim saffron]

so "wow has been out 20 years" doesn't mean much in this context

my guess is it's probably an intended (if still kinda dumb) nerf, but I'll see what I can do to get it changed back

[boreal stone]

out of all the things to look at on warrior, why is it spell reflect for no reason

U can pre warbanner a kidney and itll be full duration if u banne rit right before the cc

[slim saffron]

🤷‍♂️ presumably someone decided disarms should be stronger

[boreal stone]

why not fix an interaction like that instead of going out of ur way to mess with spell reflect WIHTOUT EVEN MENTIONING IT

[slim saffron]

Yeah, not having it in notes would be the real failure
but also sadly not that unusual for blizz

[lavish quest]

Maybe one day we can return to reflecting all spells within X seconds rather than the 1 spell trash it is now

[grand scaffold]

its most likely a bug

[lavish quest]

So it doesn't just get insta ate but some garbage passive magic spell

[boreal stone]

we pay 15$ a month to be underrepresented beta testers for a game thats over 2 decades old

[slim saffron]

that probably isn't gonna happen, unless it's a special PvP talent or something, but the DF buff was nice nonetheless

[wheat jay]

would be beyond broken xD

[scarlet barn]

Was in bfa

Pvp only

[lavish quest]

How?