Imma go sleep
#pvp
bright kraken
Hpal fire, good lobby?
bright kraken
healer difference POV
bro was literally placing spirit link 30 yards away from us
if it was with mage fair enough
but it was with arms/havoc and arms/enh
now i dont get rating even if i go 6-0 next game
:3
bright kraken
not a single one of these melee went for the right target
i even pinged
wtf
whyy am I losing rating
at this rate im gonna need to learn korean mandarin and spanish huh
fallen estuary
Muahahaahhaa
bright kraken
today is not a good day
haughty jewel
Xiao
bright kraken
went 3-3 because balance druid gave up because they were getting 1-5
we would've won that game too because its a healer difference
do you just play exclusively defence when you get resto druids
i swear they're the only healers that don't push
is that a YMMV thing or is that actually how they play
bright kraken
mugambala angle
first game lost because warrior LOS'es healer on the opener and healer's screen freeezes, doesn't peel back
second game lost because destro gets ganked
third game lost because on wrong kill target
fourth game won
fifth game destro gets ganked again
sixth gamae on wrong kill target
:)
i wanna fucking thro up
half these fucking games are just glads on alts
they all fucking expect me to know everything on what to do
never reply when i ask who
blizzard added a ping system literally for this
and they can't even play their alts well
haughty jewel
ballsack moment
bright kraken
@fickle forge why do we run storm as a lock in?
bright kraken
So u get ccd less lol
is it ever worth to swap out to run more utility?
like battlefield commander/disarm + safeguard
boreal stone
is it ever worth to swap out to run more utility?
No
If you want more utility you drop sharpen
Pretty sure you take storm and commander every game
boreal stone
And swap to safeguard against melee cleaves or when you need more mobility, and sharpen into caster cleaves where you have high uptime, for instance SP. Sharpen also feels good when training rdruids
Sharpen is still good
Just not as good as the other options
If arms did more burst and could kill in a sharpen window, then it would be higher prio
But right now you basically just do as much damage as possible while stopping as much dmg from your opponents as possible and win on mana. Obviously at lower ratings people will fuck up and overlap CDs etc. and mana doesn’t matter as much
bright kraken
can someone teach my mandarin, cantonese, korean and spanish please
i just need to know how to say each class name and swap
lavish quest
Depends on you. Just shuffle is awful for me lol
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> why do we run storm as a lock in?
Fat dam
grand scaffold
not a single one of these melee went for the right target
are you still queueing?
robust hearth
I just want glad stance warrior back
grand scaffold
I just want glad stance warrior back<:critcake:984549832511344640>
prob not comin back ever
but the colossus arms warr thing looks hella tanky
visual plover
Are you using Hurrikan for battleground cleave or stay on ms?
Hurricane for any fight that there will be pets or any other things getting in the way of the MS
sharp meteor
i just need to know how to say each class name and swap
Shuffle more of a fundamentals check than anything else
Can ping danger or kill target but other than that no type
Or like maybe initial kill target
robust hearth
The pimphand slap
steady mortar
sod
rare oak
Is skullsplitter still worth using in pvp?
lavish quest
Nope
rare oak
Is crit also any fun in pvp anymore?
wheat jay
150% dmg instead of 200% like in pve
rare oak
So it is worth it or?
fallen estuary
a cloud of shit?
impressive blizzard atleast you materialized the content youre putting out in a illusion format
boreal stone
might be an unpopular opinion, but i dont think it looks THAT bad tbh
simple rock
it looks fine/good with the right mog
everyone just wants glorious tyranny over and over
boreal stone
^
balmy compass
anyone noticing a lot more games with big mmr differences?
3 of my last 4 shuffles I've been 50 mmr above the average
crimson helm
wheat jay
xd
raw summit
from what are they building ignite
Ignite is based off of damage dealt and mastery % so prolly hitting a rextroy toad NOT ONESHOTTING IT and spreading a large ignite
Assuming that's openworld
bright kraken
i think it's okay
and that's coming from someone that likes the verdant crush
issue for me is that its just stinging sands but overbloated
redeeming quality is that i like stinging sands but i dont have it
bright kraken
everyone just wants glorious tyranny over and over
glorious tyranny looks shit imo
colour is nice but its just way too bloated
no more weapon, just a cloud of blood on a stick
everyone
wheat jay
its not terrible
bright kraken
its not terrible
mm?
bright kraken
The enchant
yeah
its not terrible but its just stinging sands but worse
had a 5-1 lobby almost go 3-3
managed to get 4-2 tho
-x-
dracthyr outranges me so i cant vene
dies
bright kraken
when you go 4-2, then 2-4 and end up lower than before somehow
bright kraken
Keeping the man down
it was such a dumb game
current season glad
2 resto druids, one clearly worse than the other
a dh and arms that dont understand swaps but seem to be able to ignore swapping and just zug zug to win
@lavish quest on rdruid should i swap if the target is leather or below?
wheat jay
ngl i came to think that glad is not that impressive
bright kraken
ngl i came to think that glad is not that impressive
then why i not have then
wheat jay
didnt finish my thought had to go dowsntairs xd
so, playing kfc
which is one of the worst comps in the game
i have played against many multiglads and r1s
most of the multiglads
are actually not that good
they just roll the most meta comp and spam it 24/7 until they get it xD
and then i see glads in 2s
on new mounts
dying in 1st min of the game
because they just misplay everything
if you had static team
and you played 3s only
as meta comp
you would probably get glad eventually @bright kraken
bright kraken
you would probably get glad eventually <@704146484811137034>
eventually
raw summit
She has the mental for it
lavish quest
<@153230384497295361> on rdruid should i swap if the target is leather or below?
Can you clarify this question? Like wtf it means?
Rdrus are leather
bright kraken
Can you clarify this question? Like wtf it means?
when do i not swap targets when fighting an rdru
wheat jay
She has the mental for it
that too lol
bright kraken
i prolly would've gone 5-1 at least if i just zug zugged the druids with my teammates
bright kraken
She has the mental for it
huh
wheat jay
like, most of the glads i played against are dogshit
lavish quest
When something's gonna die, or its something you need to prevent from free casting like a destro lock
wheat jay
@raw summit when will kfc be meta?
wheat jay
so i can get my welfare fotm glad
raw summit
<@653287531038900236> when will kfc be meta?
S4 🙏
bright kraken
I would be so tilted i would never play again and you just queue up
i mean
im not hitting 2.4k in 3s
so
lavish quest
Swapping against rdrus in general is good because they have to build hots, waste a bunch of mana, and they have to build up their heals. Also they can only lifebloom 2 targets
wheat jay
im not hitting 2.4k in 3s
maybe next season?
lavish quest
And it you make a quick swap onto the rdru themselves when they don't expect it and have no hots, with a stun, they in big trouble
You will easily get cds
wheat jay
worse people than you have glad xD
bright kraken
Swapping against rdrus in general is good because they have to build hots, waste...
my teammates in the solo shuffle just zug zugged the rdruid whole game
and won
when they were on the other team
lavish quest
worse people than you have glad xD
Finding dedicated friends is the skill cap
lavish quest
my teammates in the solo shuffle just zug zugged the rdruid whole game
That works if the rdrus are bad
wheat jay
Finding dedicated friends is the skill cap <:critcake:984549832511344640>
true lol
lavish quest
If you smell a bad one, you can tunnel them into the dirt
Some are seriously just used to never being targeted, standing 40yds away enjoying the smell of roses. So when they get hit they flop
lavish quest
so i can get my welfare fotm glad
Could of done it with DH
fickle forge
Just win?
wheat jay
won 1st game
you glad?
you happy?
you proud?
this is my element tho
warr died tho
sadge
sadge
xD
wheat jay
3-3 jesus they were dogshit xD
bright kraken
3-3 jesus they were dogshit xD
litrally me in solo shuffle except 0-6
fickle forge
litrally me in solo shuffle except 0-6
literally me in solo shuffle except 6-0
quaint osprey
Ignite is based off of damage dealt and mastery % so prolly hitting a rextroy to...
no that was arena
and we were all spread
robust hearth
Is it even possible to get glad in a non-meta comp??
Like is it possible to get glad playing a prot warrior
And don't say no just because u hate prot warrior or never attempted to do it as prot warrior
raw summit
@steep inlet hope i have the right troma be he's been playing prot on and off and probably has a take
steep inlet
oh managed to get in soloq R1 range several time as prot but, stopped 6+ months ago for Warhammer Online
i'm not relevant at all atm
slowly getting back ig with my green stuff
elfin surge
oh managed to get in soloq R1 range several time as prot but, stopped 6+ months ...
what the fuck did u type bro
raw summit
i'm not relevant at all atm
But i did get the right frenchman that's at least something
fickle forge
Hayne taking over the French community while Troma is on vacation
steep inlet
ah
elfin surge
Arms is fine
F tier
balmy compass
probably A tier
robust hearth
Is fury better?
balmy compass
no
grand scaffold
Is fury better?
fury is not better
but i have gotten 8 glad wins with it so far
unless you've played it for a long time
dont bother with that spec
wary delta
warrior got shafted whole expansion
grand scaffold
warrior got shafted whole expansion
yup
btw takeda i got a question for you
even after execute buffs i dont see you playing improved execute
how come?
wary delta
because idk if i like it better than contempt
I despise annihilator so i like the raging blow
and with rank 2 contempt ive hit people for 500k
robust hearth
guys am i in solo shuffle hell
every game i been in so far has been mages and locks
last game i was in with 3 locks
or is tht how fucked pvp is this season
i jsut barely started playing this season
i step out for 5 seconds
and immeediatly bolted to oblivion nearly died soo many times
its like im not allwoed to fight as a warrior
and i really wanna test out my fyralath leggo
also y isnt there a fyralath emote in this discord!?
deft wharf
You'll take your walking simulator and like it
wary delta
its crazy because i take spear for mages and they just end up blinking out of it sometimes anyways
fickle forge
its crazy because i take spear for mages and they just end up blinking out of it...
Taking spear in general seems giga int
I'd only ever consider it for dragons cause they cleanse your bleeds anyway
grand scaffold
I'd only ever consider it for dragons cause they cleanse your bleeds anyway
deep breath
😭
grand scaffold
and with rank 2 contempt ive hit people for 500k
how come you dont remove deft experience
fickle forge
deep breath
They usually open with this though
wary delta
spear is underrated asf
and i like deft because i like the mastery and the cdr on bloodthirst means more heals with regen
grand scaffold
and i like deft because i like the mastery and the cdr on bloodthirst means more...
more than execute and 2nd rb charge?
wary delta
Ill try it when I get home tbh, I like casting bloodthirst because of 4 set
another reason why i like deft
annihilator sucks because if smaller rampage damage and pressing slam feels clunky as hell
I wanted rb because of slaughtering strikes so I kind of wanted to make a hybrid of the two
wary delta
dont knock it till u try it bozo
quaint osprey
got whispered by a dh today asking who i am
and then he presented me his alt account with 0 av's on it calling me trash
grand scaffold
I wanted rb because of slaughtering strikes so I kind of wanted to make a hybrid...
try getting execute back
and dropping wrath and fury
can maybe drop hack and slash for bloodcraze
thats like full hybrid
wary delta
Im thinking substituting contempt for improved execute then massacre
I might run ashen too
grand scaffold
Im thinking substituting contempt for improved execute then massacre
massacre isnt bad tho
its not like bt hits hard anyway
😭
with double contempt too
grand scaffold
are people even running 4 set?
idfk tbh
wary delta
I can def see people substituting tier pieces for more mastery tbh
grand scaffold
I can def see people substituting tier pieces for more mastery tbh
i mean
this tier set is dogshit anyway
so i might
grand scaffold
what vers you running
wary delta
mot in combat
grand scaffold
ah
grand scaffold
i just find im too squishy
grand scaffold
forget ignore pain
just make bt heal 5% again
battle trance heal 5% again
and give us 10% warpaint back
wary delta
i think so
grand scaffold
but theres so much that has to be done to make this thing tanky
wary delta
not really but only because you had to sub out warpaint
wary delta
but i feel like itd be good now
wary delta
impending at 30% too
wasnt it 40 at one point
they also shouldnt even have nerfed warpaint tbh
grand scaffold
it was 40
wary delta
i agree
grand scaffold
they just fucked us up entirely
and fix fucking annihilator
since that change where reckless abandon only affects 1
its just been ass
because you are gcd starved
a lot of the time you dont do anything
rampages arent often
bleh
wary delta
maybe make whirlwind baseline too
grand scaffold
they just fucked us up in df
wary delta
yah its doggo
grand scaffold
why tf do we have to talent into raging blow
and execute not costing rage
as fury
lavish quest
Isn't it for arms?
wary delta
WHY WE HAVE TO SPEC TO CLEAVE
grand scaffold
embarrassing warrior design
i miss shadowlands
something i never thought ide say going into df
grand scaffold
nah
bfa fury
THIRST FOR BATTLE
man that shit was good
piercing howl
no cd
wary delta
yeah
dont even get me started on the old second wind
back in mop i think
where u just get healed
grand scaffold
i didnt play in mop tbh
wary delta
holy fuck bfa was ages ago
wary delta
i legit forgot aboit piercing having no cd
grand scaffold
legion was 8 years ago
wary delta
thats nuts
grand scaffold
man idk what the fury design team smokes
but it must be some dogshit
decreasing their iq on the daily
grand scaffold
yeah
lavish quest
Mop was peak
grand scaffold
bro in legion
wary delta
from legion to bfa i think was peak
wary delta
facts
grand scaffold
could talent into all 3
i made a 1 shot macro
to just delete people
could even siegebreaker 1 shot people in wod
wary delta
man i miss siegebreakerp
wary delta
id press whirlwind give everyone siege
then bs them all down
honestly
id take 15% siege iver no siege anyday
grand scaffold
not without a talent tree
in the current iteration
it would be nice
maybe 20%
45 sec cd
so it lines up with of
imo
remove contempt
buff execute
make whirlwind baseline
revert change to reckless abandon
wary delta
i agree
grand scaffold
unfuck battle trance
fallen estuary
unfuck battle trance
Whats wrong with it
clear ember
How would they make spear better? Imo its concept is just useless. Remove it and give us necrobanner or something instead
Yea exactly
grand scaffold
Whats wrong with it
uh
it takes 8 autoattacks
heals for 3 compared to its previous 5
fallen estuary
Uses anni lmfao
RB does like 10x the damage than anni build idk why youre rocking anni rn
Battle trance is kinda op with RB build
I rock it and im like a cata rogue just healing passively like a boss
grand scaffold
Battle trance is kinda op with RB build
its not
grand scaffold
RB does like 10x the damage than anni build idk why youre rocking anni rn
and im not
gotta read the convo bro
wary delta
bruh i fuckin loved condemn bro
fallen estuary
I just entered tldr plez
wary delta
bascially talkiing about changes that would make fury better
grand scaffold
Has its uses in certain situations but its still powerful lol
its literally not powerful
grand scaffold
bascially talkiing about changes that would make fury better
yo takeda is battle trance powerful
🤣
wary delta
its definitely a talent that heals you
grand scaffold
defo not powerful tho
and my proof is
playing a raging blow build
my bt healing
is similar
actually fuck that
a dk is outhealing me
wary delta
ima get home and try these out
grand scaffold
wary delta
dks fuck me up the most im ngl
grand scaffold
i crush them tbh
my fav matchuo
unless people are fucking stupid like my last shuffle
and let the dk go 6-0
fallow shale
Is annihilator good for pvp? Playing shuffle only
fickle forge
It's fine
fallow shale
Tnx man
thick reef
Do I just suck? Just went 0 and 6 at 1900. I feel like I have zero finishing power.
Enhance sham, ww, devastation, hpriest, and rsham. I just couldn't kill anything. Did highest damage too.
boreal stone
Do I just suck? Just went 0 and 6 at 1900. I feel like I have zero finishing pow...
yes
that is a 6-0 lobby for a warrior tbh
post a vod so we can give u actual feedback
simple rock
I mean he's not wrong about warrs struggling to close out games
warr dmg is so much pad
but yea that lobby is still pretty good for warr
bright kraken
not me going 3-3 instead of 6-0 because my allies can't go for the kill target i can hit (there was double shamans and they went for the not shaman)
(the targets were a balance druid and a frost mage, which i cant stick to because root spam and blink/pushback etc)
wheat jay
warr dmg is so much pad
Cap
wet pollen
I hate that map so much
lavish quest
(the targets were a balance druid and a frost mage, which i cant stick to becaus...
You should be hitting boomy
bright kraken
You should be hitting boomy
i was trying to
and i couldnt
and they were also hitting shammy so i said fuck it
wheat jay
Try harder
wheat jay
Shaman is useless target to hit when there's boomy
wheat jay
And freecloning boomy would wreck you every game
wheat jay
but if i cant hit anything im useless
Line of sight
bright kraken
its freecloning anyways if i cant hit lmao
bright kraken
And freecloning boomy would wreck you every game
wait actually thats the one i fucking lost because the mage went shaman sorry
the one i was remembering was boomy eating shit and me getting kited the whoel game
lavish quest
Why you struggling to hit a boomy? They kinda just walk. Slowly. And that's about it
bright kraken
Why you struggling to hit a boomy? They kinda just walk. Slowly. And that's abou...
i was cloned and the healer was root + beamed
im sorry i was remembering the wrong game
lavish quest
Stop the clone 😠
bright kraken
also doulbe static field + totem spam pov
wheat jay
Its a tough matchup for warr but winnable, especially with mage on your team
bright kraken
Its a tough matchup for warr but winnable, especially with mage on your team
not when they blow up because healer and i are cced
first go so the healer doesnt trinket
how do you play against healers that aren't druid?
fickle forge
Cr check @bright kraken
bright kraken
Cr check <@704146484811137034>
fickle forge
bright kraken
https://tenor.com/view/rollercoaster-loop-gif-21187053
just went 4-2 instead of 5-1 because of this shit
anyhow
@fickle forge @lavish quest how we feeel about s4 illusion
lavish quest
It's good. Nothing crazy, but acceptable. 2.1k is pretty easy and I can reliably get it so, should be able to just get it and there it is
2.4 is a challenge for me it seems tho
bright kraken
2.4 is a challenge for me it seems tho
you ever gotten it before?
lavish quest
Got it last season
When the weapons and tabard sucked ass 🤣
Shield being only good one
lavish quest
Last season was my first time
But s1 I stopped pvping after hearing about how broken the ret rework was gonna be so I didn't even give the later half of the season a shot
Then before that, I had 2100 a time or two, but finding 3s partners has never been long term reliable for me so pvping prior to solo shuffle has always been hit or miss for me
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> <@153230384497295361> how we feeel about s4 illusion
It looks mid
Not bad not good
Hard to tell without seeing the animation though
bright kraken
Hard to tell without seeing the animation though
@fickle forge dumb lobby thing happened
MW hpal froMage aff MM
First 2 games I lose because idk wtf to do
Third game I have a current season glad and S1 glad in group and ask what to do
Nothing
Lose
Fourth game I ask what to do
I get told to do one single thing
I win every single game agter
._.
fickle forge
I mean
Glads and rank ones
That's what awaits at 2400
You're gonna be fighting trill on his 5th alt etc.
May as well get comfy with it now
quaint osprey
am i the only one that likes the purple one better 
everyone i asked prefers the red
the only thing they can improve is the edge of the wing on the purple, the effect is too subtile imo
bright kraken
You're gonna be fighting trill on his 5th alt etc.
Yeah no
The issue is I have the skill
Not the experience
I don't know what to do but I can do as I'm told
Im submissive in that way
-x-
bright kraken
am i the only one that likes the purple one better <a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>...
Thought everyone liked the purple more?
fickle forge
I don't know what to do but I can do as I'm told
Girl needs a spotter
bright kraken
Girl needs a spotter
?
lavish quest
Do you know what a spotter is?
bright kraken
Only heard of it in the gym sense truth be told
Which is ironic, because I don't go gym
Only place I make my ass big is home uwu
fickle forge
Yeah gonna head to the gym with my homie now
Maybe it's time for a new VOD if you have issues with targeting @bright kraken
bright kraken
Maybe it's time for a new VOD if you have issues with targeting <@70414648481113...
It was just a new situation
Nevee been in aff frost mm before
Ironically that wasn't even the issue
I was running safeguard and not sharpen
That's the thing the dude told me to do and I went winning thereafter
fickle forge
I wouldn't drop Sharpen ever personally
bright kraken
I was just trying something new based on murlok.io
Also dropped precision for fatality
Prolly gonna go back tbh
bright kraken
Mmm
elfin surge
man who the fuck is kargish
bright kraken
Lemme guess, the murlok.io shit is just glads that are winning because they're glads
fickle forge
man who the fuck is kargish
Plunderstorm glad yet?
elfin surge
Plunderstorm glad yet?
Im the best
bright kraken
Im the best
bright kraken
wowhead made a guide for u
fickle forge
It'a the battle of the e-girls
lavish quest
Just becomes MUD's egirl, he'll get ya glad. MUD's been waiting for his promised egirls since getting R1 anyways
bright kraken
cringe
lavish quest
That's what all the egirls say to MUD... 🤔
earnest thorn
If playing hurricane how are you guys cancelaura-ing bladestorm? Cancel hurricane? Do we even bother?
raw summit
Cant cancel it
earnest thorn
That’s kinda shit
bright kraken
That’s kinda shit
I mean
When you ever needed to cancel
(static field does not count)
earnest thorn
Someone mobilities away and I have 2 charges up
elfin surge
Just becomes MUD's egirl, he'll get ya glad. MUD's been waiting for his promised...
the fuck
bright kraken
Someone mobilities away and I have 2 charges up
Just use bladestorm more efficiently
For example: uninstal
elfin surge
fickle forge
Mud could have had LoveableJessica
wary delta
wheat jay
gz
grand scaffold
apparently thats not the achieve that gets me the mount tho
another 21 wins remaining
ty tho
balmy compass
Nicely done 👏
grand scaffold
ty ty
grand scaffold
im just the top G
wheat jay
wheat jay
xD
lavish quest
Fury? The next mud?
elfin surge
SHUT UP
lavish quest
lavish quest
Turning your back on your roots?
grand scaffold
Fury? The next mud? <:xan:1094127979703062558>
nah i cant downgrade myself
grand scaffold
fury my roots not muds
lavish quest
how is fury my ROOTS man
What everyone tells me. I didn't know you existed till the end of last season
elfin surge
👎
lavish quest
nah i cant downgrade myself
Not with excellent pronouns such as yours
grand scaffold
Not with excellent pronouns such as yours
pronouns are the dumbest things to graze the surface of earth
lavish quest
Well in the "you choose them sense" yes.
lavish quest
In the... they've been a part of the English language for hundreds of years they're pretty chill
grand scaffold
true
lavish quest
bro how can you call 1 person a plural word
Same way you do all the shit those kind of people make up
elfin surge
pronouns are the dumbest things to graze the surface of earth
lol
people think they are important enough to control others language
grand scaffold
people think they are important enough to control others language
the thought process they must use on a daily basis
musnt exist
lavish quest
Pretty good when they literally make up words in Spanish because the way that language works on a fundamental level doesn't work with the ideology. Good times.
fallen estuary
POOP AHAHAHHAHAHA
shrewd rivet
yo wassup. i want a vicious saddle. did i get this right that i need 240 solo shuffle wins for a bar fill and with a win rate of 50% i need ~500 games for one bar and ~1000 games for the 2nd bar / saddle. That sounds nuts?!
elfin surge
yo wassup. i want a vicious saddle. did i get this right that i need 240 solo sh...
that sounds right yeah
i have so many of them now
shrewd rivet
hmm ok i might give it a try, as heal then for quick queue times
lavish quest
Sometimes the game gives you two when you earn one
violet fossil
Pretty good when they literally make up words in Spanish because the way that la...
latinx
mortal birch
pronouns are the dumbest things to graze the surface of earth
grammar is the dumbest thing to graze the earth
same with math fuck math
ivory dagger
what the fuck are you talking about
fallen estuary
yo wassup. i want a vicious saddle. did i get this right that i need 240 solo sh...
^
just from this xpac alone
sharp meteor
yo wassup. i want a vicious saddle. did i get this right that i need 240 solo sh...
play 3s or rbgs
shuffle is for when you don't have people on to play real modes
wind sand
is lego axe mandatory for pvp?
wind sand
Damn it
grand scaffold
same with math fuck math
NGL I be vibing with math
grand scaffold
this week is a push week
Bro you always doing a push week lmao
bright kraken
Bro you always doing a push week lmao
nah
tfw the 0-6 dps goes 1-5 against you
UGHHH
balmy compass
I thought today would be the day to get elite, but -50 from going 2-4 😢
fickle forge
I see cowardism smh smh
bright kraken
I see cowardism smh smh
Bro I'm literally shaking
That's not exactly ideal playing conditions
bright kraken
HEY
its just me being nervous of losing because im not moving xd
im not fucking having a seizure im just mildly warm 😭
wheat jay
Stroke gameplay
idle sierra
Bros is iron counterweight better then + wep dmg for pvp arms ? SoD
wheat jay
I believe sod questions are answered in #vanilla-discussion
bright kraken
@grand scaffold @fickle forge cr check first game after break
bright kraken
But <@704146484811137034> peaks 2300 this week
FUCK YOU nah im GETTING THE SWORDGE
MINE
fickle forge
Yeah I believe you'll get the sword
bright kraken
MÓJ
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1208352075088531466/makesweet-p0b1be.gif
fickle forge
<@668086812140371978> <@278157108791476224> cr check first game after break
Ret took the D sheesh
In a ret lobby
bright kraken
Ret took the D sheesh
sharpen blade pov
fickle forge
Intervene pov
bright kraken
i didnt even use intervene that much tbh
bright kraken
Ret took the D sheesh
which talent is the one i swap again
is it always command or is it occasionally sharpen based on comp
and what comps do i use sharpen, because some where my ally is target i do better with sharpen for some reason
grand scaffold
i didnt even use intervene that much tbh
probably an issue
grand scaffold
is it always command or is it occasionally sharpen based on comp
if you ever dont take sharpen
you are literally trolling
bright kraken
probably an issue
i mean its 2.1k rating what do you expect xd
grand scaffold
honestly
i never in my life drop sod
or sharpen
theres no point
i do drop commander for safeguard or disarm sometimes
bright kraken
when should i run safe/disarm/commander then
fickle forge
and what comps do i use sharpen, because some where my ally is target i do bette...
I always pick sharpen, vs sub rogue is the only exceptipn
fickle forge
In 3s I do too
grand scaffold
why
fickle forge
I rarely win with a setup vs sub rogue
It's usually them falling behind from multiple failed goes
grand scaffold
tbh i be demolishing them lately
fickle forge
So I just banner+disarm+storm/safeguard
fickle forge
when should i run safe/disarm/commander then
BC is like the last filler talent you wanna pick
grand scaffold
So I just banner+disarm+storm/safeguard
banner is atrocious tho
fickle forge
Like if you don't need a specific 3rd, then just default to commander
fickle forge
banner is atrocious tho
Skill issue
bright kraken
BC is like the last filler talent you wanna pick
safe/disarm/sharpen i meant xd
fickle forge
Ye, but that's fine if you halve a set of DRs
grand scaffold
safe/disarm/sharpen i meant xd
you dont ever need disarm and safeguard at the same time
fickle forge
safe/disarm/sharpen i meant xd
Sounds like an int set of talents tbh
fickle forge
Disarm and Safeguard are the interchangeable ones here
fickle forge
If you really crave some defense for your mate vs something like casters, pick Safeguard
lavish quest
Why is everyone just saying play Season of Discovery?
fickle forge
Season of Mid
bright kraken
Why is everyone just saying play Season of Discovery?
<:clueless:109992254192302...
no plunderstorm
grand scaffold
both are mid af
fickle forge
And Midstorm
grand scaffold
^\
bright kraken
Season of discovering how shit plunderstorm is
grand scaffold
idk how anybody enjoys that shit
bright kraken
so when would i prefer disarm or safeguard :3c
grand scaffold
its like league + fortnite + wow
lavish quest
So... what I'm understanding, sharpen and sod are basically always locked in, then sometimes run disarm/Safeguard if you need more defense for the team
grand scaffold
an amalgamation of 1/3 hemorroids 1/3 washed up design and 1/3 incompatible design
grand scaffold
So... what I'm understanding, sharpen and sod are basically always locked in, th...
exactly
and vs casters i wouldnt run safeguard
fickle forge
I saw @elfin surge lose to BattleBunny in Midstorm
grand scaffold
battlefield commander is much better imo
fickle forge
so when would i prefer disarm or safeguard :3c
Disarm for weapon oriented melees or MM
grand scaffold
tbh i dont take it unless its an mm hunter
fickle forge
Safeguard if you want to peel a mate for magic dmg
grand scaffold
that one i say the opposite
fickle forge
tbh i dont take it unless its an mm hunter
I pick it vs sub, arms, DK etc.
fickle forge
I tend to kill DKs often cause they can't press skill strike
grand scaffold
thats fine
i agree with that
i just find the 2 sec root does a lot vs their pets
as well as the 15 sec cdr on fear just being nice
fickle forge
Aren't most of them ranged anyway?
fickle forge
It makes sense vs BM
fickle forge
I would honestly disarm DH as well if they couldn't Skillimpse it off
grand scaffold
i would also disarm dh
if glimpse didnt exist
but it does
so no point
safeguard or commander better
fickle forge
Thing is you also don't need Chadguard with every comp @bright kraken
grand scaffold
yeah
fickle forge
Feral doesn't last more than 3 seconds without it
fickle forge
DH doesn't give 2 fks if you got it or not
grand scaffold
other than that wouldnt run it ever
fickle forge
My ex was a feral I realise now
grand scaffold
😂
bright kraken
Thing is you also don't need Chadguard with every comp <@704146484811137034>
I know
actually that too
which comps i need it for
😭
bright kraken
and in theoretical matches where both apply which would i get
bright kraken
just melee cleaves
as in the team cleaving is melee
or my team is melee and getting cleaved
fickle forge
Basically if you're not DH+warr 😎👍
bright kraken
so a 'spellcleave' you wouldnt run it if you were with say paladin
please excuse the fact idk what a spellcleave or meleecleave is
wheat jay
My ex was a feral I realise now
Split pressure and swapping targets?
bright kraken
like i know the idea just not the comps
grand scaffold
so a 'spellcleave' you wouldnt run it if you were with say paladin
against caster cleaves if you run safeguard
you are trolling
fickle forge
Why
grand scaffold
why tf would you
fickle forge
Makes Intervene actually useful vs them
fickle forge
20% wall
grand scaffold
👍
fickle forge
I mean surely you'd wanna play it with another melee
So you don't go double agent with your mobility
grand scaffold
I mean surely you'd wanna play it with another melee
nah
unless im against a melee cleave im not running it
bright kraken
Basically if you're not DH+warr 😎👍
so is it if my team is melee and the other team is melee cleave too???
im so confused...
grand scaffold
🤷♂️
it dont matter wtf your team is
if you
are against a melee cleave
safeguard can me good
be*
bright kraken
are against a melee cleave
what this
grand scaffold
🤷♂️
bright kraken
is it just any combination of DH+other melee or arms
grand scaffold
prob something in area 51
lavish quest
So you only disarm into MM and Safeguard against zug zug? @grand scaffold
Otherwise sharpen/sod/commander 100%?
grand scaffold
pretty much
grand scaffold
^
wheat jay
Cleave dmg is basicslly any skill that's doing aoe or works like sweeping strikes
So, bladestorm, sweeping
grand scaffold
BRO
lavish quest
Imagine artji DH running at you x2. That's a melee cleave
lavish quest
Don't listen to artji. He's clueless
elfin surge
I saw <@269709440146604032> lose to BattleBunny in Midstorm
goated player
grand scaffold
Don't listen to artji. He's clueless <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
😂
lavish quest
Damn, everyone reacting, aren't I special? 
bright kraken
Damn, everyone reacting, aren't I special? <:peepoBlush:818323879315505233>
i was gonna see what sticker i could post in reply to this 😭
fickle forge
fickle forge
unless im against a melee cleave im not running it
Sounds like I N T
N
T
wheat jay
Imagine artji DH running at you x2. That's a melee cleave
Absolute devastation
fickle forge
I call cap
Adding the function to even make it work vs magic and then not picking it vs magic
🤔
grand scaffold
have you heard of battlefield commander
grand scaffold
Adding the function to even make it work vs magic and then not picking it vs mag...
by that logic
why dont you use rebound
🤣
fickle forge
I honestly press reflect for the wall more often than for the actual reflect
If rebound was a 5 sec cd increase and increased wall duration
Then we're talking
grand scaffold
if safeguard removes movement impairing effects
then were talking
wouldnt use it into a caster cleave
wheat jay
Safeguard is a 20% wall
grand scaffold
on a 40 sec cd
wheat jay
Wgat else are you taking into casters?
wheat jay
that kites yourself
Not if youre double melee lol
grand scaffold
like a normal person
grand scaffold
i will not get cought using safeguard into double caster
its an awful idea
ngl
battlefield commander
can stop ray of frost
adds a 2 sec root
thats ranged
and gives a cdr on fear
berserker shout is then even better against locks
its just so much better
fickle forge
I mean
I meeeeaaaaaan
Stopping ray with rally
Mid value honestly
Cause shit's pretty niche
Some melees just don't live at all vs casters though
bright kraken
crying inside
what was this fucking lobby
i fucking guarantee i would've gone 6-0 if i run safeguard
@fickle forge do i use safguard if my teammate is range
and dying
or squishy
or wtf the word is
im taking a shower and eating dinner after that
2 draws
my teammate kept dying
couldnt deal damage for shit to the enemy
and yes i was going for the correct kill target
idk what i could've done
people in lobby said i was doing fine
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> do i use safguard if my teammate is range
Not really no
Cause you'll kite yourself
Dw the loss was rather small on this one
bright kraken
Dw the loss was rather small on this one
Look the mmr
Wtf you mean the loss was small
grand scaffold
Bro vesa can you chillax
Me and karanze both gave our opinions on talents
Sometimes lobbies just aren't it
elfin surge
Only play damage talents
grand scaffold
Also -32 for an 0-6 is petite
elfin surge
Blame healer
grand scaffold
🤓👆
bright kraken
Also -32 for an 0-6 is petite
But the mmr
bright kraken
Me and karanze both gave our opinions on talents
I know
grand scaffold
-73
bright kraken
But I don't know what I could have done better
grand scaffold
Looks about right
Atleast your cr isnt deleted
We don't either
Unless you recorded the game
bright kraken
At least with safeguard I can keep idiots safe
grand scaffold
Safeguard or battlefield commander probably weren't the issues
bright kraken
Atleast your cr isnt deleted
But won't MMR make me not get rating even if I go 5-1
grand scaffold
They don't make a difference so massive it can cause 0-6
fickle forge
Wtf you mean the loss was small
You went 0-6, people usually get hit harder
grand scaffold
how do you 0-6 but healers went 2-2
Sometimes somebody on both teams
Can die at the exact same time