pvp

[bright kraken]

scam

[bright kraken]

2122

2100

2073

[digital crater]

Wonder what the hell even happens to PvP when hero talents drop

[wheat jay]

it dies xD

[lavish quest]

Hunter sits at 20% for 2 mins straight, dies with turtle

Man this game is fun

[fickle forge]

Nice job, almost there

Keep it up

[bright kraken]

i dropped back to 2073 lmao

[fickle forge]

Brah

[bright kraken]

mugambala pov

[fickle forge]

Compliments for nothing

[bright kraken]

😭

not my fault the DH is going for an arcane mage on mugambala

[lavish quest]

3 arms in 1 lobby...

Umm... okay...

[lavish quest]

Yeah... uh huh

[onyx marlin]

if it makes you feel better i dropped from 2330 to 1800 about 5 or 6 times this season and im at 2200 again xdd

[bright kraken]

2100

[fickle forge]

That's honestly impressive

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-out-cage-angry-gif-24075632

can someone tell me like

how to play every comp on mugambala

most maps i can go at least 3/3 usually

mugambala i am lucky if i get 2-4

and kargish if you're gonna ask for some reason

when i hit 2223, all of my matches were mugambalas

[fickle forge]

Think you're just psyching yourself out tbh

[bright kraken]

its my worst map because idk how to play it

[fickle forge]

Mugam sucks vs some specs yeah, but it's not completely gamebreaking

It's gamebreaking if you're vs say a full caster lock lobby

[bright kraken]

It's gamebreaking if say you don't know what to do on the map

It's like me vs mage a month ago

actually ill correct myself

It's like me vs mage

[fickle forge]

Wonder how you'd do on blade's edge ngl

[bright kraken]

actually also when i was dropping there were arcane mages in both games

what do i do there

[fickle forge]

It's so dependant on comp

In the frost DK lobby I'd have trained frost

[bright kraken]

FUCK

[bright kraken]

i did

dh and dk kept going mage

DH doesn't know how to play mugambala fuck me

neither does the rogue

fucking hell

fucking dumbasses

[fickle forge]

Lock winning Mugambala?

Surely not

[hasty pulsar]

?

[bright kraken]

DH kept chasing lock upstairs

rogue did the same

neither went upstairs to begin the game or los'ed the lock when they ported up

[fickle forge]

A rogue and a DH going upstairs is lore accurate though

They weren't in character

DH losing the lobby is a win though

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge see what i can do when i dont get mugambala (tiger's peak)

So how do I actually play mugambala :3

[bright kraken]

Depends on if I'm on monk

If I'm on war I'll probably cry myself to sleep

On monk just gonna teleport why is my auto suggest saying fap

[fickle forge]

What lmao

[fickle forge]

Daily Mugambala convo

[grand scaffold]

you guys notice that outlaw isnt that amazing anymore?

[fickle forge]

It's almost like it got nerfed

[lavish quest]

But that's just a theory... A GAME THEORY

[fallen estuary]

Jinxed yoself

Big loss incoming

[grand scaffold]

ive done it boys

😄

real 2.5k xp

15/50 now

[balmy compass]

Does it count if it's on NA?

[grand scaffold]

yea

i get eu is good but tbh the top players are on na like 90% of the time

pikaboo

nahj

magnusz

smexxin

petkick

mes

just saying

[wheat jay]

and they all lose to whaaz and raiku 😄

[lavish quest]

Big congrats

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[grand scaffold]

pikaboo better than whaaz according to my glad friends

best lock in wow is chanimal who is also NA

[wheat jay]

worse according to AWC

pikaboo is the best at 1600mmr tho taht's for sure

[grand scaffold]

youre clowning fr

[grand scaffold]

how

also best hunter is on NA

[wheat jay]

you mean bicmex?

he's eu

so is kasu

[grand scaffold]

jellybeans

[wheat jay]

best survi and best bm

[grand scaffold]

yoske

dillan

[wheat jay]

who tf is dillan and yoske xD

[grand scaffold]

i forgot you play pve

[wheat jay]

;D

[little lava]

how the fuck pikaboo better than whazz/trill?

[grand scaffold]

how isnt he

[little lava]

he is always doing 50% less dmg than the second rogue

what

have u watched awc

[grand scaffold]

have you

[little lava]

??????????????

[grand scaffold]

????????????????

[little lava]

XD?

[grand scaffold]

XDD?

[little lava]

XD

[grand scaffold]

XDD

[little lava]

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-kazakhstan-ravil-gif-5525016598716372030

[grand scaffold]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

https://tenor.com/view/chad-monke-gif-20835999

[little lava]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-meme-gif-19928181

[grand scaffold]

what is even that

[little lava]

idk u tell me

[grand scaffold]

you sent it

[little lava]

illusion

[grand scaffold]

😂

[little lava]

its illusion

[grand scaffold]

illusion failed to load

[little lava]

same thing u talking that pikaboo> whazz

[grand scaffold]

he is

im not saying whazz and trillr arent good

they are extremely good

[little lava]

but u are saying pikaboo better

thats crazy thing to say

[grand scaffold]

he is

[little lava]

u know

[grand scaffold]

nah

people who are better at wow than i am think hes better

so i cant say they are wrong

[little lava]

what if i am better than you

and i say otherwise

who is right

[grand scaffold]

that doesnt make sense whatsoever

[little lava]

?

[grand scaffold]

thats you saying opposite things in both situations

😂

[little lava]

i dont understand

[grand scaffold]

neither do i

[fallen estuary]

Cause eu sucks

[grand scaffold]

yup

its always the 1400 xp players talkin bout does it count

[fallen estuary]

LMAO yea

Imagine being a whole different region and theyre hardstuck sub 1600

[wheat jay]

historically speaking its easier to get rating on NA cuz inflation there is higher xD

[lavish quest]

We ain't feelin' it mr crabs

[fallen estuary]

Nah its because were the most popular region and not bad like eu

More ppl more rating boom whip n nae nae

[wheat jay]

not to mention there have been numerous cases of blizz forgetting to lock mmr and people on na getting 2400 day one

xD

thats the most hilarious one ngl

[lavish quest]

They should just let mmr rip from the get go

Especially with how everyone is aware of the magic behind the scenes

It doesn't encourage people to play throughout the season like they want it to, now people just play at the end

[fallen estuary]

Thats a skill issue for eu

[wheat jay]

true

they should just make cr = mmr until 2400

[lavish quest]

I mean CR and MMR differing isn't really a prob tbh

[grand scaffold]

ehhhhhh

sometimes it is

like if you play a lobby and get draws you just lose 30 mmr

and dont get anything for your next win

[lavish quest]

I mean, well if you did it the other way, your CR would just be lower in that case, and you would lose 30 for getting a draw lol

Just representing the same thing in a different way

[little lava]

bro how is it that NA > EU when my friend on enh is already glad on NA with 100+ping, but struggles to get glad on EU with 20 ms?

[lavish quest]

Better teammates on NA

[grand scaffold]

because ladder is different

[lavish quest]

[grand scaffold]

that too

well said

[grand scaffold]

i play on 300 ms and im 2500 rn so ping arguement doesnt make sense

the classes people play on both servers are entirely different

in terms of popularity

eg theres a lot of assass on eu

almost none on na

[fickle forge]

Only if the lobby mmr is below yours

I've gained +20 from going 3-3

[grand scaffold]

yeah im not saying youre wong

wrong*

but the lower mmr thing is highly annoying

[fickle forge]

Also dude

[grand scaffold]

sup

[fickle forge]

Found out today rogue apparently has 33% shorter gcds than every other class

[grand scaffold]

yeah fr

[fickle forge]

How can this class complain abiut anything

[grand scaffold]

and haste dont affect it either

[fickle forge]

When you get 33% haste baseline

0% haste rogues be having faster gcds than my 25% haste warr

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its so corny

[lavish quest]

Warrior is the victim class

[grand scaffold]

as usual

i want a fury meta again

where fury actually outheals arms

rn arms outheals fury

with a better main defensive

[fickle forge]

As it was meant to be

🙏

[grand scaffold]

lol

i do honestly want fury buffs though

its not been good since s1

[fickle forge]

Don't think fury should be meta ever

[grand scaffold]

why

[fickle forge]

It can be viable

But meta pls no

[grand scaffold]

why not meta

[fickle forge]

Cause it's too easy to master

[grand scaffold]

tbh

[fickle forge]

Same with something like BM hunter

[grand scaffold]

people think its a lot easier than it actually is

[fickle forge]

It plays itself

[grand scaffold]

but i get your point

in shadowlands it was very easy

its not so easy now

[fickle forge]

SL fury was prob easier than current DH

[grand scaffold]

just bc stackable buffs mastering swaps is harder

current dh is kinda tricky

bc the utility is so much compared to sl

and the mechanics

like initiative

momentum

shit like that

[fickle forge]

It's so tricky yeah, only scripted bots have mastered DH

🙏

[grand scaffold]

nah im not saying its objectively hard

just more tricky than it has been historically speaking

[fickle forge]

That's fair, but it's still objectively easy

[haughty jewel]

Nope DH hard

[grand scaffold]

ide say its like easiest of mid difficulty classes

[lavish quest]

Boys, I have a compromise

[grand scaffold]

lets hear it

[lavish quest]

Arms AND Fury meta

[fickle forge]

Who was it that had stats to show DH hardly scaled with better damage output, cause a 1600 DH and a 2400 DH practically did the same dmg

[lavish quest]

WARRIOR BUFFS ACROSS THE BOARD

[grand scaffold]

yeah exactly

what makes a dh good

is utility management

which isnt THAT easy to learn

[haughty jewel]

@fickle forge that would mean the more complicated aspects of the spec r more important

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[fickle forge]

You mean just like every other spec

[lavish quest]

Honestly with how easy fury is to kill, it should crank dmg if its on you

[haughty jewel]

no because the data proved otherwise for other classes

[grand scaffold]

yup

[fickle forge]

Except they scale with better rotation management too

[grand scaffold]

but it doesnt

😢

😭

[grand scaffold]

not by much

its very minor

[fickle forge]

That's cap bro

[grand scaffold]

no

skillcapped agrees with me too

[fickle forge]

Destro omega scales with rotation management

[grand scaffold]

yes it does

specifically

immolation uptime

[fickle forge]

In addition to having 10k utility

[grand scaffold]

but im speaking about dh

the rotation management is so straightforward that anybody can do it

what makes dh hard so to speak is the utility

[fickle forge]

Ye and that's the meme

[grand scaffold]

ik

any dh can top dmg meters

well

not pve'rs

but most people

[fickle forge]

I can't really think of any other spec that doesn't do more damage the better the player is

[haughty jewel]

well

[grand scaffold]

we got fury

[haughty jewel]

better dhs do better damage

[grand scaffold]

arms

[grand scaffold]

naturally

but not by THAT much

[haughty jewel]

better arms do better damage too

[grand scaffold]

by a lot

[fickle forge]

Barely

[haughty jewel]

across the board its prety across the boad

[grand scaffold]

^

[haughty jewel]

board

[fickle forge]

It was so close it was practically the same

[haughty jewel]

definitely not

[grand scaffold]

it is tho

there are charts

that agree

[haughty jewel]

maybe overall

but go wise no

rank one dhs will literally oneshot

[fickle forge]

What

[haughty jewel]

bad ones do a lot of dam but never kill anything

[grand scaffold]

yes

but thats because of cc

[haughty jewel]

when i fight mvq i am perpetually terrified

[grand scaffold]

and general utility

they coordinate their goes

[fickle forge]

We have different experiences then

[grand scaffold]

unlike a low cr dh

[haughty jewel]

i have a clip of post nerf mvq almost killing my whole team solo

[fickle forge]

When I fight Mvq he's like everyone else

[haughty jewel]

never happened vs any other dh

[fickle forge]

Except slightly better CC and Glimpses

[haughty jewel]

thats just not true

[grand scaffold]

why are we arguing over a bum class like dh

tbh

[fickle forge]

Wdym that's not true

Lmao

You in my games?

[haughty jewel]

youre more concerned with repeating a narrative u hear on streams

than u are objective truths

not saying dh is hard

[grand scaffold]

what objective truth are you talking about

[fickle forge]

?

Which objective truth is that

[haughty jewel]

ur trying to equate 2200 dhs with r1s

just not true

[fickle forge]

And what streamers am I quoting rn

[grand scaffold]

ofc its not true

we are determining the reason why there is a gap

[fickle forge]

The only argument I've made is that low rated DH and high rated DH practically do the same damage, cause the rotation is just that easy

[grand scaffold]

true

and flokk said good dhs kill during goes

[fickle forge]

And that's what I am seeing here too

[grand scaffold]

also true

reason being

is cc

not rotation

[grand scaffold]

very true as well

exactly

[haughty jewel]

well i would be more careful about the terminology u use

saying "slightly" better other stuff is cap

[grand scaffold]

bro what are you saying

[fickle forge]

What

[grand scaffold]

im lost too

[haughty jewel]

u said mvq does slightly better glimpses

than other dhs

as if thats the only difference

unless i misread

something

[fickle forge]

I said our experiences playing vs Mvq differ

[grand scaffold]

cc also

[fickle forge]

Cause when I face him he feels like fighting any other DH

[haughty jewel]

do u fight him in solo or 3s

[fickle forge]

Except he does slightly better CC and Glimpses

[grand scaffold]

^

[fickle forge]

Both

[haughty jewel]

at what mmr and with who

[fickle forge]

I can't tell a difference between Mvq and other players

Last time I fought Mvq was at 2450 mmr

The healer I play with says the same really

And he Qs into DH 80% of the time

2s and 3s

[haughty jewel]

i think it is just a good narrative to cope with not doing as well as you wish TBH

[fickle forge]

Bro can't tell a difference between the good and the bad DH players

I don't know what you're saying anymore tbh my guy

What are you arguing

[haughty jewel]

that people say this about everything always

[fickle forge]

Okay fair

[haughty jewel]

whenevr something is broken or good

always a compaint

just git gud

[grand scaffold]

uhm

did you play during s1 ret?

or necro demo before it was nerfed

[haughty jewel]

that was something else LMFAO

[fickle forge]

But I think DH this season has been true to that sort of outlier

[grand scaffold]

or destro during s3 s4 sl

or bfa

or firemage spamming gpy

[haughty jewel]

i mean the ultimate reality is that this game will always be broken in some way

[grand scaffold]

s2 shadowlands was highly balanced imo

[fickle forge]

Like taking another similar strong melee this season, outlaw, it hasn't been nearly as dominant, cause you actually need to hit close to the skill ceiling to start making carry plays

[haughty jewel]

i heard ferals were broken in s2

i didnt play shadowlands

except for 1 month

in s2

[fickle forge]

Bro is arguing his own topic

[grand scaffold]

lol

[lavish quest]

Buff warrior 5 more times, that will fix the game

[grand scaffold]

yup

[haughty jewel]

im just sad

i quit ret cuz it was such a victim class

[grand scaffold]

warr is the victim class

[haughty jewel]

i had no idea what i was getting myself into

[grand scaffold]

ret is op now

🤣

[haughty jewel]

i might have to quit war

and go rogue

just bite the bullet

[lavish quest]

Just do it. Rogue is never bad

[bright kraken]

But fr, what to do 😭

[fickle forge]

It's comp dependant

But 95% of the time you bottom

[bright kraken]

At least I have experience bottoming

[bright kraken]

go on?

[fickle forge]

I'd have to write a novel

I also owe @lavish quest a review I just remembered

[bright kraken]

You better do your viewing of reeeeeeeeee >:(

[bright kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-sunglasses-book-reading-gif-17804335886508438673

[fickle forge]

It's a Mugambala match as well so you can just see what I write there

[lavish quest]

Oooo, time to get roasted

[vagrant thistle]

arms going to be s tier next season?

[lavish quest]

Not without buffs

[vagrant thistle]

id beg to differ.

[bright kraken]

Ping please 🙏

[fickle forge]

I'll do after 3s

[river trench]

just coming back to warrior after taking a break for some time, hows fury been doing in pvp?

[wheat jay]

do now

biatch

[fallen estuary]

suffering simulator

you gotta play like a bitch to actually survive in SS lmao

[river trench]

so like, the exact opposite of how you wanna play if you actually like fury lol..

[fallen estuary]

the only fury gameplay youll be doing is spewing fury into your keyboard

trust me its fucking torture getting this high lol

[river trench]

well thats upsetting. Guessing if im just starting out for this season might just be better to put them on the back burner for now?

[fallen estuary]

go arms

[wheat jay]

You don't fury if your desk is still in one piece

@fickle forge

[fallen estuary]

every class thats s teir RN has a MS effect

[river trench]

my biggest problem is, i have never played arms lol

[fallen estuary]

Im a true fury player

[fallen estuary]

just pitbull as arms and something eventually dies

tell them youre going on a target and they are forcedto go your target

[river trench]

think my biggest issue is just knowing when to use what rotation wise

[fallen estuary]

you know furys when-to goes right?

if so youll do great just spamming collossus smash

collossus - spam ms whenever CS is down

[river trench]

when should i be using OP?

[fallen estuary]

when ms is not spammable

[river trench]

so, CS when off cd, MS as often as i can, OP otherwise.

[fallen estuary]

ptty much

OP - tclap - MS collossus

thats all

arms is

[wheat jay]

Wtf is that

[river trench]

when exe becomes available, just spam that as often as i can?

[fallen estuary]

now fury you gotta track your MS so it doesnt fade in buildup n shit and battle trance n shit like lol

[wheat jay]

You making lunch?

[fallen estuary]

chicken parma

i got like 300$ worth of quarters right under it to the bottom right

like a baws

[river trench]

ok, so got a slightly better understanding of the main rotation, when should i be popping BS?

[fallen estuary]

whenever youre near someone lol

[river trench]

ok lol

[fallen estuary]

spam that shit as much as possible

it pisses so much ppl off

also rock storm of destruction

[river trench]

is what im rocking right now for talents

should slam even be used?

[fallen estuary]

do it 𝓵𝓮 𝓶𝓾𝓭 way and slam totems

[river trench]

ah ok, but other then that naw?

[fallen estuary]

no lol

blizzard spent like 6 tuning cycles buffing slam and it still does dogshit damage even with invested talents

[river trench]

lol

[fallen estuary]

spam rend for OP procs if needed lmao

[river trench]

youll have to forgive me some, spent over 10 years as a tank main, switched to dps a few years ago and been kind of stuck with what i knew since then haha

[river trench]

to dump rage im assuming if needed?

[fallen estuary]

nah to fish for OP refresh procs

[river trench]

ah ok. but other then that, dont really need to maintain that either?

[fallen estuary]

rends next in damage to DW

you keep that shit up with tclap

aoe rend but when clap is down you fish with rend

[river trench]

oh ok i see now.

[vagrant thistle]

you can still get to 2100+ as a fury but arms is way better this season

[delicate drift]

So im gonna craft some infurious warboots but wanted to know if i needed an enchanted aspect crest or not?

or just the pvp thing

[weak swallow]

how do yall feel with lego axe in pvp

good or wep dmg not worth vs vers loss?

[fallen estuary]

its possible but expect to get tunneled down every game

that one defensive you use it you lose your life

[haughty jewel]

just pvp thing

[delicate drift]

You are my lord and savior. Please bless me with your grace.

[delicate drift]

Another question if you catalyst pvp gear to tier does it keep the pvp effect?

[thick reef]

Yes

[delicate drift]

:0

[dusty saddle]

Any sad cunts playing the new pvp mode

[grand scaffold]

I don't like it that much

Seems to weird to me

[wheat jay]

Its mad fun xD

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge what to do in a double druid lobby

i was on the druids the entire game and people still getting fucking cc chained to deaht

and they los the healer on my team

what the fuck do i do

i kicked almost every single clone

[fickle forge]

Well more dmg definitely

Was it double boomy?

I'd just train them into the dirt

[bright kraken]

boomie feral

and now i lost more rating because healers cant fucking aggro

they have to hide behind the wall guys

i wanna cry bro

there's nothing i can do

did they add inflation

feels like 1.9k again

and before one of you fuckers say i can probably do more better im literally doing what everyone in the game is aksing me to do

stick to SP

kill resto

'i cant get to a wall because you are playing in mid' my guy we cant do damage if we dont chase

we're literally chase specs, DH and arms warrior

'stick to SP don't swap' that's what im trying to do but this fucking druid is in narnia and if i dont swap i die

its like the heals im getting now only know how to play with ranged dps

one melee dps and nawww you gotta los more bud i cant walk up

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile kargish swaps all the time

[bright kraken]

frost mage: spamming polymorph on healer
shadow priest: annihilating someone when they cast torrent
healer: go for the druid we don't play into damp
healer: loses because the DH is a dumbass and loses them and the healer is polymorphed

LITERALLY USING NETHERWALK AND DARKNESS IN THE FIRST 30 SECONDS

intervene ain't doing shit

[wheat jay]

Into casters, no

Its mobility spell into them

[bright kraken]

i know

im saying i cant do shit for the dh

mind you the healer is still behind a wall

not even polymorphed

they're just sitting in mid

as a druid

at least the priest has the excuse of being wheelchair spec

bro has my sword

the shitters got off plunderstorm

-x-

[wheat jay]

Good thing i don't care about the sword

And I play like two shuffles a week

[bright kraken]

do you not alreadyhave the sword?

even then you're a glad

this is my first season even hitting duelist

[wheat jay]

My first season was my glad season

I could probably get it in 2s without too much effort

[bright kraken]

you've been pvping since SL? I've been pvping since S1 and only seriouslyish this season

[wheat jay]

Cuz survi is strong there and my healer is a beast among beasts

But i dont care xD

[bright kraken]

and is this not one of the harder pvp seasons?

[wheat jay]

Been doing on and off pvp before

[wheat jay]

This one, nah

Shuffle is fairly easy still

To get rating

[fickle forge]

Artji's first PvP season was when I lost all sanity

[wheat jay]

1400 games

From zero to hero xD

And on a d tier comp

D tier at best

[bright kraken]

and im already 2k rounds

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fromzero-fromzero01-gif-16937874866782379123

[wheat jay]

Jesus

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[fickle forge]

Sheesh, you're the next Seifcham

[bright kraken]

who

[bright kraken]

'go druid'
'no'
my guy you're not gonna cast anyways you're a lock with a surv and DH lmao

getting fucked over by these healers standing in narnia

push dps by going behind wall and los healer
-die
swap targets and wait for them to be in los
-my partner dies because we dont kill in time

:))))

do i just have to push forward and hope my healer follows me

@lavish quest i found a fan of yo

[lavish quest]

That is me

Tilt queuing lmao

[bright kraken]

oh

i dont believe you

[lavish quest]

Sorry I had to do ya like that

[bright kraken]

lobbies tonight been shit

[lavish quest]

We were hella lucky to win when we had the hpal on our team tho

That was like a guaranteed loss we somehow won

[bright kraken]

i've had so many lobbies tonight where my healer is just off in narnia

not even because they're getting feared or polied into the other side of the map

they're just standing completely opposite us

then complaining about dps or dying

.-.

just been on a losing streak

[lavish quest]

As warriors we're kinda at the mercy of everyone else because we can't really end the game ourselves

Awful shuffle experience

[bright kraken]

'warrrior is good' ❎

'warrior is as good as your teammate' ✅

[lavish quest]

My alt warrior is higher than my main war these days

[onyx marlin]

thank you, trying my best and trying to stay focused, hope i dont drop again, may not have enough time to climb the elite xD

[lavish quest]

No arms war in this lobby so I dodged ya

But I'm on my alt war lmao

[quaint osprey]

you see this charging towards you and press warbreaker halfway through, what do you do?

[lavish quest]

Yesterday I was dominating, this morning they're back to shit

[bright kraken]

same

plunderstorm angle

[lavish quest]

Honestly, yeah

Not sure 2400 is worth how BS it is

[fickle forge]

Have you tried just winning instead?

[bright kraken]

laugh because they used warbreaker before they hit me so no big dams

[bright kraken]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1208352075088531466/makesweet-p0b1be.gif

[hexed barn]

Some of the matches heal can’t be out in the open

For healers it’s mostly a pillar game

[bright kraken]

no no like they're out in the open but they're max range

[hexed barn]

Or that

So much f cc in the game

I play holy on alt and some matches go so long

It’s actually insane

Ja a 2 ele 2 warlock and retro shammy yesterday

[bright kraken]

@lavish quest how did your next game go?

[hexed barn]

Only thing I could think about was quitting the game

[bright kraken]

mine was a healer difference

3-3

lowkey yesterday and day before people prolly hit 2.4k tbh

[lavish quest]

2-4 lame fest

[bright kraken]

F

[lavish quest]

More healers letting people die without using cds

[bright kraken]

legit

i feel 2.1k is hard to break because of unreliable healers haha

feels that way at least

so many healer difference games...

[lavish quest]

It is what it is

[fickle forge]

It doesn't change at any mmr really

[balmy compass]

yeah there isn't some magical change in player skill at 2.1 +

[bright kraken]

da fuck they all doin there

[fickle forge]

Congratulating you for playing a better game

[bright kraken]

DH pov

fuck this im waiting until 2am to push again

[raw summit]

Self inflicted cbt

[wheat jay]

dh is manageable now

[fickle forge]

The saga continues

[bright kraken]

?

[bright kraken]

the issue isn't me dying

its the monk/lock dying

lmao

[wheat jay]

rip

[raw summit]

Deciding 2 am is the time to game more is crazy to me

Oh also our dragon is dead

[bright kraken]

2am is when the americans wake up

i've found generally they are more skillful

[raw summit]

Oce i remember

[raw summit]

Lol

[bright kraken]

horrible when you're trying to push and worst than the other people in the lobby, wonderful when you're trying to push and everyone else in lobby is shit

[raw summit]

Cant play the script if no one else plays it

[bright kraken]

exactly

[grand scaffold]

laugh because warbreaker didnt hit me

😂

[grand scaffold]

magic the gathering in a nut shell

[grand scaffold]

tier set bug fix did a lot tbh

still tanky af tho

[hasty pulsar]

cant believe this set appearance didnt get voted to come back.. so badass

anyone that voted for season 2 or 3 appearance I do not respect their taste

[grand scaffold]

i think s3 looks good

but s1 better

s2 is ugly as shit

[hasty pulsar]

i like 3 more than 2

just wild to me 2 won.. truly wild

[grand scaffold]

well

people dont apply common sense

pve people clearly cant see what they are playing so who says they can see what they are voting for

just sayin

[hasty pulsar]

just vile

[grand scaffold]

atrocious

[bright kraken]

only s1 setss coming back are monk (fair) hunter (TF?) and voker (TFF??))

[hasty pulsar]

wtf?

how did the shaman one not get voted for

[bright kraken]

people dont like rocks ig

i personally think that VOTI had the best mogs

[hasty pulsar]

our voti mog is one of the most badass mogs we have gotten in years

[wheat jay]

far from it

they melt if you look at them lol

[grand scaffold]

uh

no

[lean burrow]

I guess he didn't read "demon" before "hunter"

||i haven't played since nerf||

[wheat jay]

just do mroe dmg

they die

[grand scaffold]

😂

that explains it

what hes saying is the equivalent of raid bosses die if you look at them

just do more dmg

[wheat jay]

dh defensives

got nerfed

its not as squishy as feral

but its not super tanky anymore either

if you tunnel it, you kill it, but you also die to other dps, usually destro

but rn its 100% a viable target to swap to

and you can get rid of blur, nether, 2nd blur, done

in span of 2min

[lavish quest]

How many rounds have to end in 30 seconds without the healer using a cd?

Never seen soo many in a short amount of time

[bright kraken]

WOOOOO

[grand scaffold]

like what

what defensive got nerfed

ik netherwalk darkness and blur didnt

[wheat jay]

passive defensives

% reductions

% vers from talents

% magic dmg reduction

[grand scaffold]

yeah

fucking 2%

on each

[wheat jay]

yep

[grand scaffold]

big whoop

[wheat jay]

indeed

and they're not the tankeist specs in the game either

they have blur 1min cd, darkness 5min, nether

thats also 5min???

not sure

still, they are a good swap target

[grand scaffold]

explain how they arent the tankiest spec in the game

out of all the melee the 100% are

outlaw is less tanky as of evasion nerf

[wheat jay]

no healing, both cds are rng

no absorbs either

[grand scaffold]

🤡

[lean burrow]

what if he got flying talent

blur fly blur fly

gg

[wheat jay]

then they int xD

[bright kraken]

you say that but have you ever hit a mortal strike in darkness

or rather a mongoose bite

[wheat jay]

i have seen dh die through both blur and darkness

yes

[grand scaffold]

🧢

[lavish quest]

The best defensive DH has is people thinking it doesn't die tbh

Even before nerfs you could pump em if you tried

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge

have we?

i believe we killed lock or sth through dark yesterday too xD

[fickle forge]

Yeah it happened a couple of times

[grand scaffold]

key part of the sentence

couple of times

[wheat jay]

normally you dont hit into it

so ye, when it was worth it

[grand scaffold]

its not actually 50% dodge chance

[fickle forge]

It is

[bright kraken]

Source:

[grand scaffold]

youre telling me half of your non overpower things hit through blur

[bright kraken]

this thing has 70% accuracy and i think itts hit a total of 2 times in all of history

[grand scaffold]

point in case

the tooltip is fakenews

[fickle forge]

Yes

That is exactly what I am telling you

[grand scaffold]

🧢

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[tough beacon]

what should I focus on upgrading for conquest gear

[fickle forge]

Upgrading?

Doesn't matter

It doesn't make you better in PvP

[scarlet barn]

Wdym, i just cant buy power?

[grand scaffold]

wtf

rare razonko spotting

[grand scaffold]

how are ya man

[scarlet barn]

I am one with the world

I am where i am needed

[grand scaffold]

still getting giga rich?

[scarlet barn]

And then slip into subconciousness

[scarlet barn]

Definitely trying

All is good

[grand scaffold]

😎

nice man

[scarlet barn]

Life without wow can be fullfilling

How are you

[grand scaffold]

im doing alright

just got 2500 in 3s

😄

[scarlet barn]

BOOSTED

Reeeeee

[grand scaffold]

😂

this time i actually just got people from lfg

crazy fr ik

[scarlet barn]

For realsies

[grand scaffold]

yeah bro

[scarlet barn]

I am teasing

[grand scaffold]

not as fury tho

[scarlet barn]

Good job lad

[grand scaffold]

unfortunately

ty ty

my last glad win will be as fury tho

[scarlet barn]

I take it back

[grand scaffold]

hahahahahaha

[scarlet barn]

No fury no praise

[grand scaffold]

tbh fury playstyle is not how i like to play

[scarlet barn]

And no , dh fury resource doesnt count

[grand scaffold]

lol

but when next season rolls around

and i get s2 tier set again

i will then play fury

s3 tier set is just useless

worst one so far

[tough beacon]

i mean pieces to buy with conquest instead of honor

[grand scaffold]

just do

checkpvp

and look at balboa-sargeras

the ideal stats

30% haste

44% mastery

30% vers

[haughty jewel]

i run 40% vers cuz im a cooky crazy banana

[grand scaffold]

40% vers is crazy

im gonna do that on fury though

[haughty jewel]

well chap

im a crazy guy

[grand scaffold]

😎

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/feelsstrongman-motivating-happy-pepe-clap-gif-20345482

[grand scaffold]

🙂

[lavish quest]

Good job lad

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[deft wharf]

Hopefully with fury getting bladestorm back fury will return

Slayer hero talents look wild

The fact that you can take what is in essence the old root breaking charge stuff from wotlk is gonna be nuts

What'd be swell is bloodrage getting taken out back and shot and thirst for battle returning too

[quaint osprey]

Is S4 Arms Tier Set fine or trash for pvp

in comparison to fury*

[random fractal]

i forget how much it is nerfed by in pvp if at all

but its not horrible

[raw summit]

It's just raw damage

So it's up to tuning

[bright kraken]

Teach how please??

[river walrus]

As fury warrior? Danmmmm you're insane man

[fallen estuary]

hes arms

[bright kraken]

mate thats a full set

[lavish quest]

Nah nah nah, tabard, sword and furry aren't from the set

[grand scaffold]

ill get my final wins as fury

just so i can tell people i got glad as fury

[bright kraken]

'please dont hit war i kite'

dies to warrior because they los healer

'dont hit shaman'

also lost last 2 games because healer was getting hexed

[grand scaffold]

well

what were the teams

[bright kraken]

BM MM double arms double rsham

[grand scaffold]

tbh not hitting shaman was prob a better idea

not hitting doesnt mean not cc'ing tho

going warr sometimes is definitely good

[bright kraken]

that's what i did the last game

healer was in cc the entire game

[grand scaffold]

ngl

im rocking with 40% vers

on fury

[bright kraken]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesou-2087208777

this is such a dumb team lmao

[grand scaffold]

yeah

lets throw him in

with a -89 mmr lobby

smart

degenerate mmr system

[bright kraken]

how i went from 2189 to 1.8k

just had a balance druid go 6-0 because my teammates don't know how to play against them -.-

[grand scaffold]

were you calling strat?

[bright kraken]

yeah

btw both of those weere didfferent events

my 2189 was a double dh ret game

[grand scaffold]

thats pretty much a free game

what did the losses stem from

[bright kraken]

one dh going 6-0

one dh knows what a stun is

the other didnt

[grand scaffold]

bro augs are on the rise

i dont like it

if i get a 2500 aug im gonna get 2700 this season

so easily

[fickle forge]

Augs should never see the light of day

[bright kraken]

What we feeling?

[fickle forge]

A race change

[bright kraken]

lets fuckin go

shaman with a gear difference

still made it back up -w-

[spice hornet]

ayo @ me when arms isn't C tier

[fickle forge]

@spice hornet

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge brief run down of safeguard vs storm of destruction and when to use rally please and thank you

[bright kraken]

and i've been placed in a game with lower mmr than me

._.

[wheat jay]

lmaooooooooooo

bullying in trade chat

[fickle forge]

Safeguard is instead of BC
Use it for sub rogue or squishy melees into caster cleaves
Don't play rally talent

[bright kraken]

i feel bad

i asked healer how i could help them win (they went 0-2) and they left the game

i suddenly don't feel bad

i mean i went 2-0 so my mmr is 2045 again but

[bright kraken]

and its back down because a frost mage died in a healer difference game within the first minute

.-.

[bright kraken]

would have been 5-1 if druid wasn't CYCLONING OUR KILL TARGET

when we swapped off after they cycloned our target they CLONED WHO WE SWAPPED TO

[magic wing]

Lmao you still playing the minigame when real pvp is out ?

[wheat jay]

You plunder lord yet?

[magic wing]

Fuck no lol

[wheat jay]

Some guildies of mine are

And wtf how much do they play it

[scarlet barn]

Wow trying to make another game in their game

[scarlet barn]

Half of those are barely minigames

[bright kraken]

close enough

;P

[scarlet barn]

Not even close

[bright kraken]

ez @fickle forge

see what happens when mugambaln't

[fickle forge]

1 off

Catch it be 2399 as well

Go sleep now?

[bright kraken]

should i?

im about to hit rush hour

[bright kraken]

also what you mean about rally

[clear ember]

master and commander

dont play

i think he means

[bright kraken]

agh

i meant the actual usage of the spell rally

QUEUE POP WISH ME LUCK

ret rsham tiger's peak

[fickle forge]

Yeah

[fickle forge]

Thought you meant the talent
Just use Rally as another defensive

[wheat jay]

decent lobby

[bright kraken]

2-4

[bright kraken]

what about for teammate

[bright kraken]

got it back from a 4-2 (hunter went 0-6)\

[fallen estuary]

Muahahaahhahah

[bright kraken]

fuck

frost mage monk thank fuck

[wheat jay]

yo is hutner good?

well hunter may be good

that mage is not XD

[bright kraken]

I ACTUALLY KJUST GOT A KILL BECAUSE OF VULPERA RACIAL

HAHAHAHAHA

[wheat jay]

nice

[bright kraken]

2234

new peak

OwO

[wheat jay]

nice

[sharp meteor]

Lets gooo.

He was at like 3k hp but it still counts.

[bright kraken]

Dropped back down to 2209 2-4 double ret fire double hpal nokhud

But I'm content

Eeps now

Tomorrow I theoretically have a shot at 2.4k

[mystic relic]

Hey im back after a longer break
Can someone send me a arms Arena build and a arms battleground build ?😁

[visual plover]

@mystic relic check out bajerras 10.2.5 guide

[limber relic]

Imagine if they put same effort into retail pvp 😂

[wheat jay]

One brings money

One doesnt

[limber relic]

xd

[wheat jay]

Sadly

[bright kraken]

?

Game 1

Aug Ret Demo Hpal Rsham
2-1, leaver
New rating: 2221 (MMR 2145)

[lavish quest]

Not sure how much money plunderstorm brings tbh

Like how many people really subbing just to play it?

[bright kraken]

the money is irrelvant

just needs to take the 17 times glad 3.5k exp players on alts in my queues

i swear 1/3 of the people in this MMR range already have glad on another char 😭

[lavish quest]

Yeah... And blizz is clearly not showing pvp any love as of late with the team either working on plunderstorm or the next expac, so not sure I'm gonna bother much

[bright kraken]

@lavish quest think it's still worth to try pushing?

[wheat jay]

If you want mog, yes

[bright kraken]

lmao

why else would i push?

[wheat jay]

I dunno

Some people push for other things

Rating itself

Title

Rank on the ladder

Fun?

I sometimes q shuffle for fun, like twice a week or so

Im at like 2100 there now xD

[bright kraken]

well

i've made it very clear what i want

lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/897055819475091456/1208352075088531466/makesweet-p0b1be.gif

also i meant like

today now

as opposed to pushing on say reset night

[wheat jay]

Oh

Isnt it early in na?

[bright kraken]

5pm~ server time

wyrmrest is PST

[wheat jay]

Oh

Its still early then

[bright kraken]

is that bad

[wheat jay]

What

Im getting confused

Maybe im too tired, 1am now

[bright kraken]

is it bad if its early

[wheat jay]

Ye i dont even kkow what im typing at this point