pvp

[bright kraken]

What are we bad against, then?

[fickle forge]

Specs that wanna kill when the CC drs are up

Like sub rogue

[wheat jay]

shut up kargish

you're just a kfc enjoyer

[fickle forge]

Not just a

I'm THE kfc enjoyer

There's no one else

[wheat jay]

There is

Me

[full quiver]

Oh god u guys are still in here

[violet fossil]

haven’t seen you in a hot min

[wheat jay]

You back?

How was vacation?

[full quiver]

Team is thinking about getting back together please convince me not to reinstall

😂😂

[wheat jay]

Dh is broken so you can play that

Got nerfed like 20 times now and is still broken

[full quiver]

I was going to level my arms wars again because it sounds like FW is still really popular and uhdk not in best spot

[wheat jay]

Boring

[full quiver]

Lol

[deft wharf]

Man that extra 15% execute damage for fury will DEFINITELY shift up the meta, oh boy. People gonna wake up and start playing fury for sure.

I really wonder if anyone making these changes has played ladder or even entered a bg in the last 10+ years.

[fickle forge]

Don't reinstall

[full quiver]

Teks a lil hesitant too

[fickle forge]

Let me put it like this

The last time we did 3s this is what it looked like

[full quiver]

Lol

[wheat jay]

Imho

Just take a break till 11.0

When things are fresh

[full quiver]

They just got nerfed pretty hard though didn't they

[wheat jay]

Rn 3s are ass

[wheat jay]

Which nerf?

[full quiver]

I wanted to.come back and get 2.4 shuffle as warm up for next expac

[wheat jay]

Cuz they've been nerfed like 30 times by now

[fickle forge]

Ladder is pretty deflated

In all brackets

[full quiver]

Yeah I figured. It was deflated when I quit a year ago lol

[wheat jay]

Whole expansion is deflated

Except s1 shuffle

[full quiver]

Lol

Yeah 2.4 in s1 shuffle was easy

[hushed plank]

Is Thunderclap mandatory? Playing 2's and dont really understand why we take it when hamstring is a way beter slow and costs 10 rage compared to 40 the thunderclap dmg doesnt seem very good as well with a 40 rage cost If there is something to it im unaware of please let me know 🙂

[fossil mortar]

AoE, can't be dodged, more dam, applies rend, dumps more rage

If you want slow slow, piercing howl

[hushed plank]

^ thanks for the answer didnt know it cant be dodged ... I seen earlier that someone said our burst is warbreaker Thunderous roar then avatar wouldnt it be more dmg to get your 2 stacks for mortal strike sharpen bladestorm to get your max stacks for strength warbreaker mortalstrike into thunderous roar then avatar ?

[boreal stone]

armsisnt about bursting as hard as possible

its about generating pressure then bursting off of it

if ur looking to hit the hardest, its 2x OP, into avatar bladestorm, shockwave thunderous roar warbreaker into a sharpen MS

if u get an exe proc during bladestorm, use that first

[hushed plank]

Thanks for the reply appreciate it

[robust hearth]

Y IS SMEXXIN playing furty? i thought fur ywas bad!?!??!

[grand scaffold]

It isn't tho

[grand scaffold]

Because it's still fun

Not everybody is fotm

[bright kraken]

Should I push tonight? (NA)

[bright kraken]

Dh called me useless despite us losing because they LoS -.-

@fickle forge who should i have gone vs sham dk feral

people always tell me to just play better if someone is going 6-0 but

how do i do that?

[wheat jay]

Dk or feral, hit whatever is close

Mostly feral as they die faster

[wheat jay]

It's very lobby dependant, and luck dependant

[bright kraken]

dh told me to go sham and got mad when i hit what was closer to me

'why ur so dogshit'

[wheat jay]

Cuz that dh was an idiot

Carried by his spec

To the point where he can just tunnel healer and get away with it

Going healer was almost always a stupid thing to do unless healer overextended or was out of cds

Rn specs are busted to the point where they can go healer from the start and still win

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge i dont think tonight is the night

UH chased frost and losed healer

paladin blew up twice

evoker gripped frost dk away when we had UH out of los of healer and then just

aghhh

we were this close

like

10% off

fuckin

im doing one more then im crying

[wheat jay]

Don't

[bright kraken]

?

[wheat jay]

Stop queueing if it's going that bad

[bright kraken]

just wanna get 2.1k again...

like

i swear

why is it that at different times people are just shit

ill take your advice because im still decently close to 2.1k

just

augh

[wheat jay]

Just chill

[bright kraken]

when should i push again then?

or try?

[wheat jay]

When you relax xD

Not for me to decide

You seemed a bit tilted so I told you take a break

Go make tea, watch some shit

[bright kraken]

its not me

its my teammates

[lavish quest]

Bare in mind artji used to be that guy chasing down your healer

[fallen estuary]

Go fury and die within 12 milliseconds of the doors opening

[lavish quest]

"Carried by his spec" as he would put it

[wheat jay]

I actually wasn't

I despise going healer, dunno why

It always seems low-skilled to me

So I always kill dps xD

[wheat jay]

Am I wrong?

[lavish quest]

Tsg just running at heal back in the day was fun lol

[lavish quest]

And not at all, just want you to recognize what you are. Or were

[wheat jay]

I never really denied it iirc

I will however still say that I rolled for fun

And made that dh before the patch

[lavish quest]

You made it 2 days before the patch, to play it for the OP patch

[wheat jay]

Played it for the fun of it

Believe it or not

The immo aura reset build was mad fun

[lavish quest]

It is fun to be busted. Why you think we want war buffs all the time? We'd like a taste too lol

[wheat jay]

Nah

It was fun rotation and minigame in a spec

Fitting dmg in like 4s window

If I was playing for meta only I wouldn't be playing kfc

[fickle forge]

Why cry when you're about to approach your peak again?

[bright kraken]

wdym?

i dropped from 2127 to 2084

[wheat jay]

Well at least you didn't drop from 2450 to 2100

Like kargish and I

[lavish quest]

Last season I dropped from like 2370 to 2100 before I broke 2400

Sheet happens

[lavish quest]

You playing it, just means KFC is actually meta

[wheat jay]

Sure sure

[bright kraken]

i mean

my only goal is 2400

:p

[fickle forge]

My only goal is 3pl8 bench

[wheat jay]

my goal is to kms

😄

[fickle forge]

??

[wheat jay]

👀

@fickle forge another 8k from wqs 😄

[fickle forge]

Another 50 sanity preserved for not logging on 🙏

[wheat jay]

xd

[wheat jay]

Dh flaming me when he did less dmg than me

And he went 1-5

[full quiver]

Shaman for sure

Then yoy cleave other 2 and can swap to dk on walls

[full quiver]

I mean you should be getting win vs DK

[fickle forge]

Feral is the most paper class in the game rn

And you wanna stop clones to nuke their dmg

[elfin surge]

Kitty cleave is back

[full quiver]

liar

Magnuz would put Mud in the mud if they ever 1v1d real talk. Mud is an ok warrior but he’s not on the level of Bageeraz or Swifty talking about TBC / wotlk days. I find it hilarious that all thse zoomers look up to the current top warriors but trust if these warriors were to play vs old school warriors like klinda, swifty, baggeeraz, etc no shot.

[boreal stone]

feral due to how squishy it is but to also stop clones. if they can just run around cycling clones on everyone, they are the best spec in the game

[fickle forge]

Why Atake ctrl+c ctrl+v my comment smh

[full quiver]

@violet fossil love u bye

[violet fossil]

love u boo

[grand scaffold]

😂

[grand scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BdpLjJx_Vh4

😂

[grand scaffold]

have to go feral

100%

if they cast clones game is over

[wheat jay]

nerfs made dh unplayable ngl

can't get a q for shit with that average wait time

[grand scaffold]

gotta be fooling around

[wheat jay]

cant get a q

cuz of long time

therefore unplayable

ez

[grand scaffold]

bruh

[wheat jay]

you cant argue with that

[lavish quest]

Wut u on about? That's nothing new

[wheat jay]

xd

i dunno

havent played it in a while

i didnt even remember im 2200 xD

[fallen estuary]

Yea sure but magnuz doesnt do us the favor so grand on scale as mud does for us. Mud defeats the silithids for us while magnuz smokes cigs. Magnuz cant even fathom the bug beating mud does. Mud loses the battle but wins the war

[grand scaffold]

☝️ 🤓

[wheat jay]

Ok I'm done with shuffle

Never again

[grand scaffold]

🤣

sounds familiar

what happened

[wheat jay]

Noobs happened xD

I go mage

Almost kill mage 3 times

Every time mage was at 10% my teammate swaps

Then warr breaks trap with fucking execute

Healer in trap, noone nearby

Man walks up e

Executes

Charges back to target

That's 2100 mmr btw xD

[grand scaffold]

LMFAO

[grand scaffold]

did you try diamond ice?

[wheat jay]

Why would I take diamond ice

When there's noone who can dispel or reverse trap

[grand scaffold]

to prevent exactly that

😂

if warr was that dumb i woulda started playing it

[wheat jay]

Chimera, tranq darts cuz of mage/resto, survival instincts to live

[wheat jay]

Hard to predict it when it's 1st game xD

[grand scaffold]

thats true

most warriors are just dumb tho

😂

[grand scaffold]

that generally makes sense tbh

[wheat jay]

Fam trust me I know what talents to run xD

Hard to prepare for my teammates being dumb

[grand scaffold]

i know

your talents made sense people just dont make sense

[wheat jay]

Real and true

[fallen estuary]

I mean youre not eating silithids for dinner so you can thank mud 🧎‍♂️

[grand scaffold]

nah

[wheat jay]

You mean terminids?

Ye I slay that

[lavish quest]

He had to reapply the bleed you removed

Your fault tbh

[wheat jay]

There was no bleed tho

[boreal stone]

Honestly didn’t seenu mention stopping clones, my fault

I’m on 5 hours of sleep due to legendary taking fucking 11 hours

[lavish quest]

Sudden death proc bleed

[wheat jay]

After trap was broken, ye xD

[lavish quest]

He's building pressure obviously

[crimson helm]

👀

[wheat jay]

my blood pressure?

[lavish quest]

You did that the moment you hit join queue

[wheat jay]

real

[lavish quest]

Should have been spreading democracy instead

[wheat jay]

i dunno

wiating for new shit tomorrow

xD

[lavish quest]

Tomorrow? What's tomorrow? Isn't your reset today? Or you mean helldiver

[wheat jay]

helldiver

new warband

with new weapons

and new ways to spread alien cheeks

spread democracy*

[lavish quest]

Ah that's tomorrow? Neato

[wheat jay]

do i get 1800 on warR?

set is ugly

@lavish quest got enough gold for leggo i believe

wqs pog xD

[lavish quest]

Do you got the drop?

[wheat jay]

no

not yet

xD

[lavish quest]

Tf you thinking about gold for?

Prob just continue to get cheaper anywaus

[wheat jay]

xd

ye

[lavish quest]

Now get back to your 15 heroic kills

[grand scaffold]

👎

blehhhhhhhhhh pve

[wheat jay]

😦

can i check how many i ahve?

oh i can

6

xD

rip

do i even bother?

[lavish quest]

Follow your heart

[wheat jay]

uninstall t he game

is what my heart is telling me

[lavish quest]

The true fotm

[wheat jay]

i guess so

then come back in 11.0

O_O

i dont think i want or need the axe

i wouldnt even use it as mog

so ye fuck it

xD

[lavish quest]

It's orange. Of course you need it

[bright kraken]

I know, but not much I can do when my teammate loses healer

[wheat jay]

i dont tho

why use fire axe

when you can use fire sword

[lavish quest]

Did you miss the it's orange part?

[wheat jay]

imma try to get blue lfr sword

[wheat jay]

i dont care tho

its ugly

i was tempted by the orange

but white is best

O_O

i like this too ngl

[lavish quest]

I mean orange words. Orange quality. Not orange in color.

I have all the colors of that sword but the red one 😭

[wheat jay]

dont care

[wheat jay]

meh

[lavish quest]

But orange.

[lavish quest]

But red.

[bright kraken]

L not red ratio shit swordge

[wheat jay]

where your red sword O_O?

[bright kraken]

Stuck in the future

[wheat jay]

F

[magic wasp]

guys do we have any meaningful offensive cd macros for pvp?

i feel like we cant combine any meaningful cds because of the blademaster's torment

can you please help me out if there is anything that i can use to press less buttons

[merry valley]

so living bomb is now one shoting teams

i wonder who saw that one coming

[lavish quest]

Not really other than macroing in on use trinket. But I haven't seen warriors using on use so not even that

You should press the buttons seperate for more control

Maybe can macro avatar and roar together, but shouldn't really do it

[magic wasp]

i tried but that didnt worked for me because im using blademaster's torment

should i write roar first

[lavish quest]

You'd macro roar to go off first

But I still don't reccomend tbh

[magic wasp]

should use it while i have avatar buff right?

[lavish quest]

Nah

Warbreaker, roar, avatar

More borst

[magic wasp]

wait a minute im using CS. Am i really that wrong on that 😄

should i use warbreaker instead of CS?

[lavish quest]

Same thing, just one is aoe and one is single target

You swap between the two

[magic wasp]

can you explain on what circumstance?

im thinking maybe if i face 2 melee warbreaker is good

[merry valley]

cs when u think you will do full st

wb vs cleave

[magic wasp]

got it

thanks for the help man

[wheat jay]

close

bench gaming best gaming

[open glacier]

wtf happened with evoker healer dmg

did they always hit that hard?

[fleet egret]

fk retail imma gonna play cata i'm already blackslited in the community and i can't really shine as mm no idea why but if there's no door for me in retail i will just focus on myself and play cata pvp for fun

[spice hornet]

lol classic arena is dead

Even worse than retail

Cata arena could potentially be more populated than wotlk classic arena was but it’s hard to say because a lot of classic enjoyers don’t want to play Cata

And cata is close enough to retail so like what would be the point? And cata still has the issues of PvE gear being OP. Oh and RLS is everywhereee

Also warrior sucked ass in Cata especially around ruthless season which is why you barely see any warriors with ruthless elite

[lavish quest]

If that blood dk thing is still going strong, but cata anyways. Tho that was maybe just 2s

[idle falcon]

Where is Galachad

I miss him

[scarlet barn]

Smh

This Steezo guy seems unhinged ngl

[quiet furnace]

it's all his own fault

[elfin surge]

our time is now

[wet pollen]

What is that chart of? Representation?

[fickle forge]

Aren't you that guy who bought several glad boosts?

And then acted like those R1s were your friends

[elfin surge]

[lavish quest]

Also homie randomly shows up to the war discord to complain he struggles on MM

Something about warriors attracts hunters I swear

[lavish quest]

It's the morning of throwing heals I guess

So many unpressed trinkets and bubbles, so little time

[elfin surge]

Bro everyones gnome wtf

[lavish quest]

Not I

[elfin surge]

i dont want to go gnome

but its so broken

[lavish quest]

I refuse, I will stay human chad

[scarlet barn]

I fear not a man that picks broken option

But a man that picks what he wants and still smashes

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

Then don't

Be a Chad and stick to what you like

[elfin surge]

boomy war lowkey broken

need to go in my own solo mission as boomy war cant rely on healer dispell for roots

[lavish quest]

Because boomy lowkey broken

[wheat jay]

play your favourite race @elfin surge

human warrior

you basic bitch

[elfin surge]

?

orc bis

[wheat jay]

oh sorry it was kargish

[lavish quest]

Warrior helps boomy's 1 weakness, surviving

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge basic bitch

i think ill change mine to tauren

[lavish quest]

Gotta master the basics

[wheat jay]

and my hunt to tauren hehe

[lavish quest]

[elfin surge]

boomy helps warriors 1 weakness, surviving.

[lavish quest]

Tauren is dope

[lavish quest]

It's depressing how right you are

What if we buffed wars armor?

[elfin surge]

it is pretty funny how well the boomy i play with kites melee

[lavish quest]

The armor changes still the dumbest thing ever

[elfin surge]

they just give up and go me

[lavish quest]

Also, can anyone explain to me why this thing is so shit nowadays?

Sit in it and still just

[elfin surge]

ignore pain tho lawl warriors top healing!!!!

[bright kraken]

what is this for

[lavish quest]

Bruh, I was watching laros and someone said to put ignore pain on GCD and war would be balanced

Like bruh???

[elfin surge]

???

[lavish quest]

Dumbest thing I've heard

[elfin surge]

honestly nerf impending buff d stance

[lavish quest]

We gotta go for gold brutha

Buff both

Actually I think impend is okay, I would appreciate some fatter IGs and a bit better D-stance

D stands for dicked down in this instance

[bright kraken]

new d-stance: mortal strike is replaced with lay on hands

[grand scaffold]

Valid for once

[lavish quest]

But then we can't dam

And rating check?>

[bright kraken]

only one game, 5-1

1-5*

[lavish quest]

This morning I've had 2-4 twice and then a 5-1. The 2-4 was from heals not using trinks n bubbs n shit when it was obvious for what felt like an eternity that they were needed

An rdru who just kept getting globaled

Fun times

[wheat jay]

There was a better dstance

But it resulted in degenerate gameplay

[lavish quest]

Good bye fun

[wheat jay]

Because every warrior was sitting in dstance 24/7 except for when you were bursting

People had like 70-90% uptime on dstance

It HAD to be gutted

[lavish quest]

We do that now becuase if you look at us we're 10% -.-

[wheat jay]

Ye

That's the idea

Thats how it should be

[lavish quest]

Might as well discontinue the game at that point with horrible ideas like that

[wheat jay]

Fixed degenerate gameplay, dstance still useful

I'd say it was successful

[lavish quest]

"useful"

[wheat jay]

10% dmg reduction

Against rmp

Well, rmp out of meta

But still, 10% wall, when your healer is in cc, is big

[lavish quest]

Yeah but without the 10% we're too squishy, so it's like sitting in d is getting back to normal, not even

0-6 that lobby

Was big fun

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge healer difference game 3-3 but it was dumb

monk said to go bottom

rogue did not ever go top

lock died last round just because damage

aff assa ww hpal rdru

mugambala

[wheat jay]

No youre not too squishy

Youre one of the tankiest specs in the gamw

[lavish quest]

[fickle forge]

Rogues are used to being bottoms 😎👍

[bright kraken]

that's MY job though >:(

[wheat jay]

Not anymore

[bright kraken]

brewmaster s1 pov

[wheat jay]

Gotta man up

[fickle forge]

And you delivered

[lavish quest]

SP only doesn't use swap and disperse on my team

[fickle forge]

Big?

[grand scaffold]

wtf

what type of negative vers im a looking at

[elfin surge]

kargish bullying pve players in random battlegrounds

honor level 10 players

[grand scaffold]

lol

dw they're just npc's

[lavish quest]

Photoshopped

[fickle forge]

A mage

I didn't have insignia either

[grand scaffold]

Lol

[wheat jay]

kargish gonna start sending million ms hits soon

on critters

[lavish quest]

Man will be bustin' in elewyn

[wheat jay]

Goldshire argent dawn erp?

[lavish quest]

Just like mud on NA

The NA server for it escapes my mind

[elfin surge]

?

[fickle forge]

I heard @bright kraken plays on Moon Guard

[grand scaffold]

👎

moonguard is so yuck

[lavish quest]

Yeah moonguard is the server Mud is always visiting

[bright kraken]

No I don't

I have standards

[fickle forge]

You play arms so yeah you do

[lavish quest]

huh

Mortal Strike be hittin shamans kinda hard

[fleet egret]

is there a way to add harpoon to this category?
usually intim/harpoon is how bicmex landing a trap
if i'm able to scater him before he trapping it's a gg for me
Harassing world

[fickle forge]

Bro

Warrior cord

[fleet egret]

Bro

i'm banned in any other wow pvp discord

[fickle forge]

For real?

[fleet egret]

ngl

ppl jsut hate me im blackslited in the community

cause i exposed Next (awc) player

he offered me a boost for money

[fickle forge]

You wouldn't take it right

Surely

[vagrant thistle]

can you use m+ gear in pvp? i have 489 tier pieces and was wondering how people are getting the crit+mastery conquest helm

[fickle forge]

If it's 489 and got the stats then yes

[lavish quest]

489 pve tier is the same as conq gear

[vagrant thistle]

fr?

[lavish quest]

So feel free to use it, no diff

Ye, tier has the same stats regardless if it's pve or pvp

[vagrant thistle]

ok thanks 🙂

[lavish quest]

Other peices, pvp gear will have vers. But tier at 489 is the exact same, no diff

[wheat jay]

who the fuck harpoons on intimidated target?

[lavish quest]

Don't think that's what he's saying

Trap after one or the other

[wheat jay]

Ok makes sense now

[fallen estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cat-dance-cat-cat-meme-chinese-cat-gif-12629347036627000898

[lavish quest]

Prot boi is finally not prot

I did destroy a fury boi earlier where he left after 4th round

[clever igloo]

do sweeping strikes hit nearby pet instead of player

[fickle forge]

Hits whatever is closest to you

[clever igloo]

so its almost waste of gcd to pop sweeping strikes against dk+another melee stacked together

or demo

[hasty pulsar]

way too many mages in solo shuffle

[hasty pulsar]

what website is this

[fallen estuary]

Check poop vs pee

Oh no

Thats drustvar

Lmao

[lavish quest]

Why can't we use sweeping targets single target to hit 1 guy for 175% dam?

[vagrant thistle]

can you not get vicious moonbeast from solo shuffle? im at 1800+ rating and its still at 0% lmao

[lavish quest]

You can. Maybe visual bug

?

[vagrant thistle]

no idea

[lavish quest]

6-0 becomes 5-1 becuase DH doesn't know blur or netherwalk abilities 😭

[vagrant thistle]

if your W/L ratio is is low do you gain less rating per win?

[inner sigil]

#buffsweepingstrikes

[little lava]

What about this shockwave from overpower?

[boreal stone]

fistweaver xD

[little lava]

Imagine playing with fw

No balls

[boreal stone]

i'd prefer an rsham

but dyllbar works fulltime now and dno hates rsham

[torn sigil]

LMAO were you trolling omnivore a few weeks ago he was tilted off the face of the earth at this rankonegpy mage

Ah sorry you're the warr

[lavish quest]

I dunno who omnivore or this rankonegpy guy are

I just hate mages

[torn sigil]

Real

Actual degen scum of humanity you can definitely judge a mage player irl by playing that class

[lavish quest]

Agreed. Losers I swear

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge any benefit to playing bottom behind the wall if a lock is in mugambala?

[lavish quest]

If you can convince your team to stay up top, you can just stay up there, and when lock jumps down just let him and hit something else

[fickle forge]

Yes, you'll make the lock drop down again

[bright kraken]

so do i play top or bottom

[fickle forge]

Vs lock top is good, but vs people with 3 brain cells they'll just drag you to bottom anyway

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge should i go arcane mage if i have a surv hunter with me

or just a hunter

[wheat jay]

Whatever you can hit, hunter should follow

If he doesnt, you follow hunter

But both are viable kill targets

[fickle forge]

Arcane is such a coinflip to train

Good ones don't die to warr

Bad ones fall over in a min

I'd say if you got double purge on your team, you can afford to hit arcane if 2nd dps isn't better

[bright kraken]

i went druid for the first go because i knew i'd get kited

lost within 5%

[bright kraken]

it was dh arcane resto

[fickle forge]

Sometimes you wanna turn these casters when they push up to apply CC as well

[fickle forge]

Yeah good luck then

You're gonna have to swap a lot there

[bright kraken]

no

it was just train mage

hunter didnt tell me to go mage

why cant people even just like

ping

or call target pregame

ughghghh

literal griefing

[fickle forge]

I don't have ping bound 😎

[bright kraken]

even then

you have a keyboard

you clearly know kill targets

[fickle forge]

Yeah and I call them

Then tell people to follow

[bright kraken]

why cant other people do that

literally i've seen someone do /point and its been beneficial to me

i've been told my damage is good i just dont know who to put it on

.-.

[fickle forge]

You lack confidence girl

Just gotta start beating down on your guy and then make your team follow

[bright kraken]

you say that like people in shuffle 1.9-2.1k range are competent

[bright kraken]

legit i feel 2.1k is easier to push sheerly because of that

[fickle forge]

They aren't, that's why you're the shot caller

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge should i still swap on hots, defensives, etc?

most people dont do it as far as i see except for immunes

[fickle forge]

If you can yes

HoTs is a low prio swap, it's not that important unless it's a melee cleave

[bright kraken]

on rdruid you mean?

[fickle forge]

Yeah

Walls I'd def swap on if I can

As long as it isn't something trash like Barkskin

[bright kraken]

?

you don't swap off barkskin?

what about time dilation

[fickle forge]

Time dilation doesn't actually stop any damage though

And Barkskin is just a weak wall

If you got CS on a guy who has Bark, they practically cancel each other out

So no point in swapping on that basis alone

[bright kraken]

what is worth swapping then

[fickle forge]

Just go by like 30% walls or stronger

If you can't kill through

[bright kraken]

i just had a 5-1 game

just wanna know if what i did was the right or wrong thing

so, mage has no iceblock (frost)

we blast monk so they go to the opposite side of map to the mage

i swapped to mage and got blasted by them and dh that fell back and druid was on the side with monk

my teammate was arcane

[wheat jay]

1st or 2nd block?

[bright kraken]

none

all blocks used up

[wheat jay]

Finish mage

[bright kraken]

and monk just used cocoon

im pretty sure they used it on mage, so we swapped to monk and blasted them

then monk ran to opposite side of mage

i do see that kind of appeal for pvp being different all the time because different rating levels get skill blocked 😆

then again, no one liked mythic experiments

[wheat jay]

Real

Fuck that boss

But now my most hated is tindral

12% on that bitch

[bright kraken]

i would have to assume that tindrall didn't have the same skill lock as experiments

as in, the fight being fundamentally different based on your groups skill

[wheat jay]

Tindral has fps lock tho

[bright kraken]

like the timers on experiment change based on dps

[bright kraken]

fair

lmao

[wheat jay]

Mechanic happens and you drop to 5fps

Cba

[bright kraken]

my group isnt progging tindy haha

we're progging smoldy tomorrow though!

tomorrow is in 10 minutes!

wait

[wheat jay]

I havent progged it

I just came off bench recently

Tanked, they had best pull with me

42%

Next raid, i come as dps

12%

They have 400+ wipes, i have like 20 xD

[bright kraken]

lol

[wheat jay]

Im a good luck token in raids

[bright kraken]

im scared for smoldy lowkey

[wheat jay]

Nah its easy

Very scripted

[lavish quest]

Panda_Scared_Animated

[lavish quest]

Just pretend you're +3'ing a 20 key

Get in there and pump

[bright kraken]

i do

but my teamate drags me down

[fickle forge]

Cr check

[fickle forge]

[lavish quest]

Yeah tbh, solos is just rolling slots

Had teammatesmjust throw 2 rounds because they want to kite 300 yds from the heal on reapeat when we're about to win easy

But just comes with the territory

[wheat jay]

Ye thats why I stopped playing shuffle

I cba

Play well, kite well

Still lose

I once streamed to kargish, he said "good, you win this round"

My teammate died behind pillar...

[lavish quest]

Yeah seems the better I play, the more I lose tbh

But still trying for 2.4k

[fickle forge]

Yeah I lost a round in the opener cause my WW thought TP'ing would be enough to stop lock rift dmg

Out of LoS of our Hpala

Sometimes you just lose one cause fk you

[wheat jay]

Cba

[lavish quest]

I lose 90 cause fk u

[fickle forge]

Have you tried just winning instead?

[lavish quest]

THis shit happens all the time, but not often when I'm fighting

Tried that just now, entered combat and dc'd

Fun game

Reconnected, DC'd

[fickle forge]

Ah yeah that's a free -150

[lavish quest]

Yup, this game is ass

[wheat jay]

Thats why I play pve games now

Or fun pvp with kargiah and our healer

[lavish quest]

I try to find people on and off for actual arenas

Never worksd

[grand scaffold]

[fickle forge]

Our last Q session was about 1.5 month ago 😎 👍

[elfin surge]

I have no idea where to start, I can’t do solo shuffle because I get instant targeted and the damage is too much and I’m too squishy for my healers to keep up the whole game.

I don’t get any conquest and going 1-5 isn’t fun I also feel like a Hinderance to which ever team I get put on, how am I supposed to get conquest gear if I can’t get conquest.

I don’t have any friends that still play so grouping up for 2v2s isn’t an option for me, was hoping solo shuffle would fix that but trying to do it after joining at the end of a season when everyone’s already geared makes me want to just unsub again and try again next reset. I only resubbd so soon cause I was told the new season would be during that big update, that was a lie.

[lavish quest]

What am I missing that takes one from 2.1-2.2 to 2.4?

Crack?

A DH alt?

[fickle forge]

I have no idea where to start, I can’t do solo shuffle because I get instant targeted and the damage is too much and I’m too squishy for my healers to keep up the whole game.

I don’t get any conquest and going 1-5 isn’t fun I also feel like a Hinderance to which ever team I get put on, how am I supposed to get conquest gear if I can’t get conquest.

I don’t have any friends that still play so grouping up for 2v2s isn’t an option for me, was hoping solo shuffle would fix that but trying to do it after joining at the end of a season when everyone’s already geared makes me want to just unsub again and try again next reset. I only resubbd so soon cause I was told the new season would be during that big update, that was a lie.

[fickle forge]

Winning

[lavish quest]

If only that were decided by me

[fickle forge]

Maybe it's time to upload a VOD for review

[lavish quest]

Yeah, I just keep forgetting to record tbh 😂

I have a 15 min deserter debuff then I'll try to record one in 3 hours when I get in a match

[fickle forge]

Idk, I once sent Vesa a VOD on my alt warr, but the mmr is pretty piss

[lavish quest]

I'ma have piss MMR now for a hot minute anyways

Low 1900s now

[wheat jay]

Good enough

James almost lost his mental

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge q?

[fickle forge]

Cause DH made him insane and KFC is a piss comp 😎

[fickle forge]

Sure bby girl

[elfin surge]

nvm

[fickle forge]

Yeah didn't think so

[wheat jay]

Real

Next expansion tho

100% survi is getting new defensive and will be overtuned

Right?

[fickle forge]

I mean it's probably better right now

Survival does decent dmg again

DH nerfed

[elfin surge]

Pressure turns rocks into dust but coal into diamonds. It isn’t about the pressure but about what you are made of

[lavish quest]

They nerfed DH by 2% and buffed sv by 3%, math checks out, sv is better

[fickle forge]

I saw Bicmex completely destroy on dmg with surv

Into Whaazz and Raiku playing outlaw arcane

[lavish quest]

We all know its broken

Like come on

Artji rolled it

That's all the evidence we needed

[fickle forge]

He did roll it back in the day when it was bonkers broken

And then said "I don't understand why people dislike 2s, it's the most chilled bracket" while playing surv+Rdruid

[lavish quest]

"I just always happen to end up on what's OP, I'm not going for it I swear."

[bitter canyon]

I have no idea where to start, I can’t do solo shuffle because I get instant targeted and the damage is too much and I’m too squishy for my healers to keep up the whole game.

I don’t get any conquest and going 1-5 isn’t fun I also feel like a Hinderance to which ever team I get put on, how am I supposed to get conquest gear if I can’t get conquest.

I don’t have any friends that still play so grouping up for 2v2s isn’t an option for me, was hoping solo shuffle would fix that but trying to do it after joining at the end of a season when everyone’s already geared makes me want to just unsub again and try again next reset. I only resubbd so soon cause I was told the new season would be during that big update, that was a lie.

[fallen estuary]

Just kill em

Oooooo9hhh killem

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-kill-em-funny-gif-1826524642759475313

[grand scaffold]

fury in a triple melee lobby

feels worse than playing demo

[fickle forge]

How so

[grand scaffold]

im just dead the whole

[lavish quest]

just live 4head

Working on processing my Mugmabala Double ele destro lobby

☠️

[fickle forge]

Did you win?

[tawny elm]

Started to do SS with a new alt and I face ppl at the same rating as my main. Is that normally ?

Have 0 xp on my alt in PvP so it’s pretty rough 😄

[wheat jay]

I was 0 xp

So was my homie

Me saying that was fine

[lavish quest]

Why ask if you gonna watch? o.O

[lavish quest]

Btw, yes, sort of

Your main's MMR does impact your account

[tawny elm]

What’s the logic behind that?

[lavish quest]

So if you were like 2400 on your main, your alt might start at 2k MMR

Because most people good at 1 spec, can learn another pretty quickly and would destroy down low

[tawny elm]

I wanted to ease in on my new class 🙂

[lavish quest]

SO bliuzz just has you skip that for the lower mmr's sake

[tawny elm]

Bah

[lavish quest]

I imagine they expect you to ease into it with bgs or skirms for honor

[tawny elm]

But that’s boring:(

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-kratos-god-of-war-gif-26557907

[fickle forge]

[lavish quest]

Compressing and then will upload it and post in gameplay

Then I can be roasted

[wheat jay]

Imma roast your ass

Gonna check hamstring uptime

[lavish quest]

It's 3 shams, a lock, and a priest, I ain't pressin that shit

[wheat jay]

you suck

[lavish quest]

Reported for bullying

The real insult is its from fotm rerolling trash

[wheat jay]

better to be fotm rerolling trash, than just trash

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-wrong-not-right-gif-6086195

[wheat jay]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-tekken-8-reina-jin-jin-kazama-gif-1386317185630701389

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-plan-coping-kid-the-kid-is-coping-gif-26280717

[lavish quest]

Have at it lads

[haughty jewel]

@elfin surge @boreal stone slayer it is.

perma bladestorm build

• perma mobility build

[boreal stone]

holy shit

pog

that is

disgusting

[elfin surge]

more mobility lol

[boreal stone]

cant wait to overpower and proc a bladestorm

LOL

cant wait to stormbolt someone mid leap bladestorm

[haughty jewel]

LOL

[wet pollen]

Is warrior ret still good for 3s? And if so what healer goes best with it?

[fallen estuary]

now just imagine us getting moer mobility with this tree

and imagine what theyre giving everyone else

they gave dks a perma mount lmfao

[vagrant thistle]

anyone know if your solo shuffle w/l ratio is bad are you kinda f***'d? i have a 35 win 95 played total and am gaining any rating now for a win.

[haughty jewel]

nope just keep grinding

[vagrant thistle]

so ill be fine?

[boreal stone]

yes, play with a fw

[boreal stone]

it doesnt matter in terms of ur personal growth, but other players will look down on u if ur win rate is less than 50%

[vagrant thistle]

ok that idgaf about just didnt want it to completely f me for the season lol, im still learning so i dont care what anyone thinks atm.

[river walrus]

this shit will get nerfed

casters will cry we have too much mobility

[fallen estuary]

flash forward to rn with warlock ports

[vagrant thistle]

anyone mind sending a link to a general macro guide for arms warriors? baj has like 100

[fallen estuary]

first lobby of the day

[lavish quest]

They already do

[river walrus]

fair enough, even when it`s impossible to touch mages they will cry

[urban skiff]

Might as well start early:
Should we play arms or fury in season 4?

[fallen estuary]

thats like asking if i want to either be tortured or tortured even worse

[boreal stone]

the bladestorm changes are much, much more aids

[urban skiff]

which one is tortured slightly less?

I can already tell, arms is going to be the pvp spec in TWW, thinking I'll finally make the switch from fury and spend S4 getting used to the bullshit that is playing with only one weapon

Two hands
One sword
Now that's an arms problem

[fallen estuary]

prot

[vagrant thistle]

do you want more vers or mastery for pvp? bajheera has more mastery then vers but all wikis say that you should prioritize vers haste mast crit

[fallen estuary]

imagine looking up a guide that pve players make for pvpers cause it would sound reasonable

its mastery verse haste crit

or haste verse mastery crit

depending if you wanna rely on dem bleeds you go haste

[vagrant thistle]

for arms

[fallen estuary]

but chunkier MS you go mastery

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-black-guy-looking-at-you-reaction-twitter-when-you-do-anything-gif-21037735

everyone here mains arms

[vagrant thistle]

ok thats what i thought, seemed odd that you would be prioritizing vers over mastery

[fallen estuary]

you should always have high verse lol its literally good. but builds demand other stats sometimes so you take more but you take less

[vagrant thistle]

but why do all top pvp arms players have higher vers then master? still really new to pvp

[fallen estuary]

cause they believe an extra 1% of damage reductions gonna save them in some MLG 360 noscope save. or are in some 3v3 premade group

[sharp meteor]

Uh, as I recall mastery scales better for damage but vers is helpful both offensively and defensively.

[river walrus]

Fury bladeatorm back

[sharp meteor]

Well, 0.5% defensive vers doesn't save you, but 1% dmg versus 0.7% dmg and 0.35% reduction is sort of a way to think about it. It's just a matter of being efficient. Idk actual values off the top of my head.

And they shift around based on comp/meta/pacing, etc.

[boreal veldt]

Rider of the Apocalypse looks like it's gonna be annoying to play against

4 MORE minions during army of the dead

Good thing slayer is full of bladestorming

[haughty jewel]

fueled by violence bladestorm

never die

[green anchor]

I wish they'd fuck off with talents that reset cooldowns

makes it spammy and boring

[river walrus]

I like it

[eager lake]

slayer tree looking crispy

[bright kraken]

@fickle forge 1-5 nokhud hpal disc dev surv dh what should i have gotten

[wheat jay]

Ngl you should have won more in that lobby

Cuz you play well with all the specs there

And other specs dont synergize at all

[bright kraken]

i dont know what i was doing wrong

[fickle forge]

Can 4-2 that lobby

[wheat jay]

Btw have you seen survi/bm talents?

Fucking atrocious

[bright kraken]

no

dh said i should drop sharpen for safeguard

._.

paladin said i should be hitting what is closest to the healer (survival hunter)

[wheat jay]

What would safeguard do there lol xD

[wheat jay]

True

[bright kraken]

mind you this is survival dev

[wheat jay]

Usually

Oh

Well, hit whatever dh is hitting in that scenario xD

[bright kraken]

because the dh is dying as fast as i am

[bright kraken]

which was the dev

and the paladin was complaining

[fickle forge]

Yeah he's a regard

[bright kraken]

so i went 1-5 in a 4-2 lobby because people shit

🤓

[lavish quest]

Fun game

[fallen estuary]

Just go prot

Fr if you lose a lobby go prot and make lower players suffer

[boreal stone]

Upload a vod man

We cannot tell you how to play your character if you don’t give us footage to look at. The whole “what should I go in this lobby? 4-2? 6-0? 1-5?” Etc. is giga cooked and doesn’t help you in any way shape or form. Your skill determines what you should go in most lobbies, not what specs you’re fighting

Dh surv dev would get obliterated and 6-0ed by a r1 war, and would get 0-6ed by a 1400 war. It doesn’t matter that youre a warrior in that lobbies, it matters how you play

[open glacier]

I did it, done for the season, finally

2k1 with my brother in 2s 🥳

[hexed ether]

3s feel great right now

[vagrant thistle]

ok i just learned macros and did 72m in a 1500 lmfao

[torn sigil]

Only took them 20 years for charge to match blink

[bright kraken]

tfw you go 2-4 because monk los's the entire game

why 2-4? there was only one ranged

[wheat jay]

just start recording your games

and sending to review

bad games

so we can give advice

[oblique apex]

if i have 488 ilvl as pve +pvp trinkets is it worth to invest in conquest gear

versa about 30% now

[bright kraken]

probably depends on your stats

i know my survival hunter has the same stat prio in pvp and pve so its fine

[wheat jay]

11.0 survi stats will be in feet

6ft underground

[little lava]

U can use cry and it will cancel Ray, providing that u play this talent with Various benefits to cry

But ye it sucks that he Rays and then blinks and u die, have to use cds tho

[bright kraken]

@wheat jay what kinda music you listen to?

[wheat jay]

everything lol

[wheat jay]

my avatar makes it even better

[lavish quest]

Silenced again

[fickle forge]

He really does

[wheat jay]

i don't

[wheat jay]

cant silence me forever

[lavish quest]

Presumably you are also listening while you watch

Besides, you just need the sounds while you jerk it to DH gameplay

[wheat jay]

you mean sounds of eye beam and essence break?

[lavish quest]

Wait, you win arenas?

[wheat jay]

not anymore

i dont dh

[lavish quest]

[wheat jay]

playing dh over extended period of time results in testicular torsion

so i swapped back to survi

now im strong and virile again

[lavish quest]

When ya gonna play the real class?

The brown class

[bright kraken]

link proof????

[wheat jay]

shush

you got shuffles to win

where red sword?

[lavish quest]

Wish granted

[bright kraken]

i missed a queue because apparently my pc was muted lmao

[lavish quest]

Can't get red sword

[fickle forge]

Artji plays asian mmos for the plot

[wheat jay]

you ain't got shit on me bro

[lavish quest]

That's like 8 years ago

[wheat jay]

you ain't got shit one me #2

look at this plate armor

you wish you had that viking armor

[lavish quest]

Nah, I be lookin fire

[wheat jay]

bro you look like a fucking evoker

????

hello?

[lavish quest]

How much you been smokin today?

[wheat jay]

WHAT ARE THESE SHOULDERS

YOU A WARRIOR OR EVOKER WANNABE!?

[lavish quest]

rofl

No one wants to be an evoker

Got the pvper mog on right now tho

[wheat jay]

Better

I need that sword man ;__;

[lavish quest]

Just get it

4head

[wheat jay]

Lfr ain't nice to me

[lavish quest]

Solo shuffle ain't nice to me

[wheat jay]

its not nice to anyone

[grand scaffold]

i like shuffle

[lavish quest]

How?

[grand scaffold]

i just enjoy it

haha

no need to find teammates

and im semi lucky

on fury i hate it tho

[little lava]

Is it na or eu

[wheat jay]

@lavish quest GOD BLESS AMERICA

GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS

AND GENTLEMEN

START YOUR ENGINES!!!

[lavish quest]

salute

I dunno what about

But we salute

[wheat jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YsnlQvo8A

[haughty jewel]

make stormbolt 5 seconds

[fickle forge]

Only @limber relic is the true shuffle enjoyer

[grand scaffold]

lol

[hexed ether]

how did i ever make it to 2400 without using cds lol.

[limber relic]

KEK

[lavish quest]

Fuck wow, spread democracy instead

🫡

[fickle forge]

See exotic new lifeforms

[little lava]

Idk what u play. If u play retwar fw then ye, dont have to use cds

Also No offense but NA =/= EU

[wheat jay]

🫡

[warped warren]

730 games? holy moly

[lavish quest]

Impressive. What's the level?

[wheat jay]

8

[lavish quest]

Spreading the good democratic word well carry on soldier 🫡

[wheat jay]

finished whole operation

captain

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-helldivers-2-gif-1471368634578542573

[lavish quest]

https://tenor.com/view/helldiver-helldivers-helldivers2-chestbump-flag-gif-2708234001444907997

[wheat jay]

Finally decided to roleplay yourself?

Chibi Mud

[vagrant thistle]

when should i use die by the sword?

[river walrus]

When you are dieing

[fallen estuary]

You just die lmao dont use it

[grand scaffold]

pn fury yeah